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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles this week, and look
Speaker 1: back at what happened on Sunday at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: A little bit further as well, Bill Jones, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to adjust my audio level here just slightly. Here.
Speaker 1: There we go Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola and the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studio and the four time Pro bowler
Speaker 1: Everson Walls as well in his own home studio. Let's
Speaker 1: start with you, Everson. How are you doing? I'm doing fine, Bill.
Speaker 1: You know every time you always know this what I'm wearing.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I have so much cowboy gear
Speaker 1: back there, man, it's ridiculous. If it's free, it's for me.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, man, this stuff is good stuff. Man.
Speaker 1: I love the cowboy gear. They got the best looking
Speaker 1: cowboy best looking gear period than any other sports team.
Speaker 1: That's what I like about them. I don't know who
Speaker 1: the designers are, but they do a good job. Hey,
Speaker 1: they do, And it looks like Mickey has the same philosophy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So I've been you know, they
Speaker 1: you give us every year and we go to training camp.
Speaker 1: They would give us something, right, we're supposed to wear
Speaker 1: it at training camp. So I've got a closet full
Speaker 1: of stuff. So I figured when I retire and I'm
Speaker 1: not working, i don't need any other clothes. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear all this stuff. I wear Cowboys every day. Every day. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing something cowboy. No sense buying anything new because
Speaker 1: most of the stuff is brand new. If they want to,
Speaker 1: if they want to recognize me, or I d me
Speaker 1: after a deadly accident or something, Well, was he wearing
Speaker 1: cowboy gear? Yeah? I see what. Yep, that's now I
Speaker 1: understand why it was. Why I see older people and
Speaker 1: they'll be wearing jumpsuits right or overalls. It's like there's
Speaker 1: no sense dressing up anymore. We lost, we lost. We
Speaker 1: know we're we've reached our peak and we're on our
Speaker 1: way down the hill. So yeah, well I worry about it.
Speaker 1: I got my play with us. I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: but I see that making monkey that. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: got any positioned better where we give a proper signage
Speaker 1: to BBC Mortgage as well, which is figured we ought
Speaker 1: to position it right. Yeah, but that's exactly right along
Speaker 1: those lines. As far as cal Boys gear goes, you
Speaker 1: know those Hawaiian Cowboys shirts that we got when we
Speaker 1: were in Hawaii last year, they were the hit of
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving at our house. This year with my family here
Speaker 1: with my son in laws, I was able to hand out.
Speaker 1: We watched the Cowboy game that afternoon in U in
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hawaiian shirts. So there you go. Now you make
Speaker 1: a good point, Bill because it helps you save money
Speaker 1: doing Christmas as wets exactly right. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love that. Seems like five years ago, yeah and it
Speaker 1: was just last year. Yeah yeah, all okay, Well, I
Speaker 1: uh I started off the show describing Everson Walls as
Speaker 1: a four time Pro Bowler and that would be more
Speaker 1: more Pro Bowlers than the Cowboys, four more Pro Bowlers
Speaker 1: than the Cowboys have this year. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that the Pro Bowl teams were gonna be
Speaker 1: announced yesterday right before the I Didn't Eat six twenty sportscast.
Speaker 1: It comes down that, you know, the Pro Bowl teams
Speaker 1: are being announced. Of course there's no Pro Bowl game
Speaker 1: this year. Uh. And they were making the announcement on
Speaker 1: the NFL network and then I went through it and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, okay, not that I thought that
Speaker 1: a Cowboy player was deserving, but I went through the list,
Speaker 1: and I went through it again and again and again,
Speaker 1: like there's no Cowboys on this list. Well that first
Speaker 1: time it's nineteen eighty nine. That didn't surprise No, I
Speaker 1: did not surprise me. But I thought, well, they're all
Speaker 1: line injured reserve. Yeah, that's right, right, it's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, start with Tyrn Smith and Zach Martin
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott. If he would have kept playing, he
Speaker 1: would have been right there in the hunt. And if
Speaker 1: those guys were playing, Ezekiel Elliott would be back in there.
Speaker 1: And who knows where Marie Cooper was. So yeah, if
Speaker 1: all we know, de Marcus Lawrence might be in as well,
Speaker 1: because if we're bawling on the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: then that gives him opportunities for sacks and exact and
Speaker 1: impact making plays. That's why I found it amusing, you know,
Speaker 1: talk radio God bless him, right, Uh yeah, that shows
Speaker 1: you how bad this roster is. And it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's have a little bit of understanding here. So I
Speaker 1: thought the interesting thing was I remembered eighty nine, right,
Speaker 1: there was no no Pro bowlers that year, and I'll
Speaker 1: get to what Jerry Jones had to say about it.
Speaker 1: But in eighty seven and eighty eight there was only
Speaker 1: one and it was herschel Walker, and eighty six there
Speaker 1: were none, so I was curious. Wall eighty five who
Speaker 1: was on it? Well, Doug Cosby, Tony Hill, Randy White,
Speaker 1: and one Everson Walls. By the way, I still have
Speaker 1: the picture. I still have the picture, yeah, of the
Speaker 1: four of you, of the four of us together with
Speaker 1: the little ladies in the hula skirts, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I still have the picture. That's why I can. I
Speaker 1: can see it now as you were calling it out.
Speaker 1: I think that was Doug Cosby's first and only Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Cowboys have obviously always been known for having great tight ends.
Speaker 1: First we had Billy Joe Dupree. Now I don't think
Speaker 1: Billy Joe made a Pro Bowl. But as Billy Joe
Speaker 1: started getting older, then here comes uh Cosby, who just
Speaker 1: really took it to an entirely different level. He wasn't
Speaker 1: nearly as good a blocker as Billy Joe was, but
Speaker 1: at that time we have started opening up the offense
Speaker 1: a little bit more, and Cosby was our guy. Man.
Speaker 1: I gotta say what I saw with Novocheck. Cosby wasn't
Speaker 1: as athletic, but he was as prolific as Jay Novacheck
Speaker 1: was at that tight end position. I just looked up
Speaker 1: I just looked up Billy Joe. I just looked up
Speaker 1: Billy Joe. He did make three Pro Bowls, seventy seven
Speaker 1: and seventy eight. He made three Pro Bowls. So the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers string for the Cowboys really didn't start until
Speaker 1: ninety one, because in ninety they only had one and
Speaker 1: it was rookie Emmett Smith before all that started. But
Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting what Jerry said today, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he wasn't surprised that they didn't have any,
Speaker 1: but when they brought up eighty nine, he goes, no,
Speaker 1: we didn't have any in eighty nine, but there was
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys on the roster that became Pro Bowlers.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. So I went back and
Speaker 1: looked to see that eighty nine roster and the future
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers. Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Mark two in A,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Mark Stepnoski, Tony Tilbert, Daryl Johnston, and Ken
Speaker 1: Norton Junior. All those guys were on that eighty nine team.
Speaker 1: Uh some of them were starting. N oh. I forget.
Speaker 1: I think Gogan made it when he got traded or
Speaker 1: he ended up as a free a Raiders. The Raiders
Speaker 1: is that where he went. I thought he made it
Speaker 1: as a didn't make it as a cowboy because he
Speaker 1: wasn't he was. He didn't he was he was good enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he really didn't get good until after that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: ninety two, I think ninety three. But he always had that.
Speaker 1: He always had the attitude of a pro bowler, and
Speaker 1: he whipped many Pro Bowlers asses, I must say, during
Speaker 1: the year. And and let's just let's call it like
Speaker 1: it is. Kevin Gogan one of the coolest guys ever.
Speaker 1: He's the only person that we know of to get
Speaker 1: into a fight at the Pro Bowl in Hawaiian That's
Speaker 1: how you know, that's typical. There was somebody else, no
Speaker 1: Randy White. Who else was it? Randy White with the
Speaker 1: Bears that year? Now, oh my god, might be five season.
Speaker 1: Now I was there. You're talking about a fight during
Speaker 1: the game from the game Kevin No, no, no, Kevin
Speaker 1: Gogan got into a fight on the field in a
Speaker 1: game where there's that time no one really cared about
Speaker 1: giving effort. My rookie year, and and and a little
Speaker 1: bit after that, we were all like gun hole Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: we gotta win. Well by the time Gogan got there,
Speaker 1: and it's just a laugh, right, and uh so that's
Speaker 1: everyone's attitude, but not Gogan. He comes in there and
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but he roused somebody up.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, his helmet. He has someone else's
Speaker 1: helmet in his hand and they're going off like, dude,
Speaker 1: this is Hawaii. No one gets upset but doing but
Speaker 1: Randy's his was even crazier. Well, the first time he
Speaker 1: got into it, the alcohol involved with looking, the alcohol
Speaker 1: involved with ye, it was that preseason game with the
Speaker 1: Bears where he got into it with Mark Bourts, I
Speaker 1: think it was, and he yanked his helmet play season
Speaker 1: he yanked his helmet off and boinked him on top
Speaker 1: of the head with it, and he got thrown out.
Speaker 1: And asked him about it today, he'll tell you, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to play anyway. It was one hundred
Speaker 1: damned degrees. But the difference in the two fights at
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl during the Pro Bowl week is Randy
Speaker 1: got into a fight at least one, maybe multiple, Yeah,
Speaker 1: during the week at Pro Bowl week, not at the game.
Speaker 1: This is aven game, Kevin, And to me, practice getting
Speaker 1: into it in practice is just as bad because no
Speaker 1: one no, I'm gonna say that practice. It was away
Speaker 1: from practice. To you know, Coach McKay from the Bucks,
Speaker 1: I remember that was I think that was our first
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, maybe second, and he promised us the practices
Speaker 1: were gonna be so easy and quick that we would
Speaker 1: be on the beach by the time the tide was up.
Speaker 1: I believe it's how he put it. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you were to just go hang out the beach,
Speaker 1: then you came to the right team. So John McKay
Speaker 1: was the best Pro Bowl coach. Gene Stallings, not knowing
Speaker 1: he'd had no idea, he comes in, We're we're doing
Speaker 1: our calisthenics, and no one's doing calisthenics. Once again, no
Speaker 1: one cares. And while we're doing calisthenics, Gene Stallings comes
Speaker 1: up to Mark Hayes, pro bowled defensive back from the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, and asked him to buckle his chinz
Speaker 1: trap while he's stretching. You know, you see, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, spag, I mean, And Mark Hayes
Speaker 1: is looking at him like, bro, what is your problem?
Speaker 1: And I think I don't even think he's he fastened it.
Speaker 1: And I think at that point Gene kind of realized, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me let me back up a little bit. So
Speaker 1: so man, this cond to me. So if you look
Speaker 1: at this cowboy roster, now, do you see potential future
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers? Now it's gonna ask that question. That's a
Speaker 1: good one. Yeah, I definitely see one. So I'll start,
Speaker 1: definitely see one. I'll start lawns. I'll start with ceedee lamb.
Speaker 1: There you go. I'll let you guys each take a shot.
Speaker 1: Give me somebody I gotta I gotta go with. Just
Speaker 1: because you named the wide receiver, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. But of course Maria Cooper guys. You know,
Speaker 1: his consistency is still there even this year, and those
Speaker 1: guys have already been Just think I want a new guy, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you so you want someone that hadn't made it then,
Speaker 1: yes see, I thought give you another one if he
Speaker 1: had been healthy. I thought Lall Collins was on his
Speaker 1: way to be a Pro Bowl offensive tackle. I thought
Speaker 1: he had a really good year last year. Unfortunately he
Speaker 1: didn't play where one of the problems that works against him.
Speaker 1: There's so many other cowboy offensive line right I tried?
Speaker 1: And all right, So Everson, what do you think about trade?
Speaker 1: What's his what's his potential in this league? I don't
Speaker 1: see it yet. I just don't see it yet because
Speaker 1: just the coach is not there unless he can come
Speaker 1: in like like mayor Renfroll did, like I did, like
Speaker 1: Mike downs to where you just you know, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, here they come and boom, there's
Speaker 1: there's you know, the playmaking ability right there. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to rise very very quickly. Now, just because
Speaker 1: you're not a pro bowler, to me, that that's that's
Speaker 1: not a knock on you as a player. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys that didn't make the Pro Bowl out
Speaker 1: there that are extremely valuable to their team and their system.
Speaker 1: And if you don't get recognized from a league wide standpoint,
Speaker 1: sometimes that guy can be your guy and you still
Speaker 1: don't make the Pro Bowl. And I got to throw
Speaker 1: your boy in there, Layton vander esh I thought, I
Speaker 1: think if he has the potentially, if he could just
Speaker 1: stay away from the injuries, and if this defense can
Speaker 1: somehow get a lot of I wouldn't say other people
Speaker 1: around him, but if they can just somehow get a
Speaker 1: hold of this system and get the right fit, whether
Speaker 1: it's player, coach, you know calls, whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: teammates around you. I think he could be a lynch
Speaker 1: pen for our defense. And it's improvement because he's not
Speaker 1: gonna make it with this defense. I'm saying, with the
Speaker 1: stats that we're talking about right now, the defense has
Speaker 1: to improve and therefore he has to be a product
Speaker 1: of that improvement. But I think it can happen. Oka.
Speaker 1: Of course, he has made the Pro Bowl already in
Speaker 1: his career. His rookie year, he made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: Layton vander Esch, he was an at end. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forgot about that, Yeah, And that's the other difference. That's
Speaker 1: the other difference between now in the eighties, Wheneverson was
Speaker 1: going there, weren't there, weren't guys opting out so much
Speaker 1: back in the eighties, is what they're we could we
Speaker 1: look forward to that trip and every one when no
Speaker 1: one was making a lot of money. So now fear
Speaker 1: of losing big salaries and the way there is right
Speaker 1: now now those players they're not paying for the trips anyway.
Speaker 1: The rest of the year, they know on they get themselves,
Speaker 1: their families, their girlfriends, whoever. You know, they got endorsement
Speaker 1: deals that sending them over there or wherever they want
Speaker 1: to go around the world. Why don't Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: and at the time, I don't know what they're paying now.
Speaker 1: But at the time, if you won, you got ten gs.
Speaker 1: If you lost something like seventy five hundred. So unless
Speaker 1: you're going to raise the purse. But even so, it's
Speaker 1: got to it's got to change significantly because the salaries
Speaker 1: have just gone through the roof from where they were
Speaker 1: at the time. Pro Bowl will never be a competitive
Speaker 1: game again. Yeah, I'm gonna give you one more and
Speaker 1: this mate come out of the blue. But I think
Speaker 1: Tyler Badish has a shot at this. I think that
Speaker 1: had he not strained his hamstring, he still would be
Speaker 1: the starting center and Joe Looney would be the backup.
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep it the way it is. It sounded
Speaker 1: like yesterday, I think I can't remember if it was
Speaker 1: McCarthy or Kellen Moore talking about they just wanted to
Speaker 1: go with continuity. Now this will be like three weeks
Speaker 1: in a row with the same five and the same
Speaker 1: spots on the offensive line. But I think Beadish, what
Speaker 1: he showed, has an opportunity to be one of those guys.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you another guy. And I think Bill
Speaker 1: will appreciate this because yesterday Mike Nolan said, if this
Speaker 1: guy improves as much next year as he has during
Speaker 1: the middle of the season this year, we've got ourselves
Speaker 1: a player, and that's Neville Gallimore. He just thinks that,
Speaker 1: he just thinks that he has proved so much from
Speaker 1: the start of the season to where he's at now. Now.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he's got a sprained ankle. We'll see what happens
Speaker 1: going forward. But he balled out a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: Remember he did this what he's doing now without an
Speaker 1: offseason without a preseason shortened training camp. He gets a
Speaker 1: normal off season next year. I think they're expecting big
Speaker 1: things from him. I got one more. I got one more,
Speaker 1: and everything is based on, you know, the ability to
Speaker 1: come back and how tough the injury is. We're talking
Speaker 1: about Doug Cosby. I just think Blake Jarlin is a
Speaker 1: hell of a tight end. I don't know about his blocking,
Speaker 1: and I mean we can see that obviously it's tough
Speaker 1: to block in this system because Sheltz is having a
Speaker 1: few issues as well. But just Blake reminded me a
Speaker 1: lot of Cosby and of Novocheck in regards to when
Speaker 1: he catches it, it ain't over. I mean, he's just
Speaker 1: as dangerous when he catches it. His eye is on
Speaker 1: the prize in the end zone, and I like that
Speaker 1: aggressiveness that he has. His hands are amazing. He knows
Speaker 1: how to get open. Defensive backs have a problem guarding him,
Speaker 1: and he's got great athleticism. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: his rehab is coming, but man, if everything would have
Speaker 1: gone well, you would be looking at him as one
Speaker 1: of the tight ends with big numbers, with big numbers
Speaker 1: in the NFL this year. If it wasn't for Dad
Speaker 1: getting hurt. Well, and having said that, Dalton Schultz has
Speaker 1: really come out of nowhere this year. He's gonna end
Speaker 1: up probably with sixty catches as a tight end, and
Speaker 1: that's pretty much of an accompliment for a guy that
Speaker 1: really hadn't caught the ball that much. A sturdy tight end.
Speaker 1: He's not the flashy guy down the field, but he
Speaker 1: knows where to find the open spots. He catches the
Speaker 1: ball well. He's in blocking needs to improve, but it
Speaker 1: would be a pretty good two tight end system now
Speaker 1: once Blake Jarwin gets back in here. The key on
Speaker 1: all of these is that team has still win games, yep,
Speaker 1: and in fact, and only they need we're talking two
Speaker 1: years down the road on these. You gotta win games
Speaker 1: one year and then you got to back it up
Speaker 1: the next year with another solid season, and then you
Speaker 1: get a half dozen to eight or nine Pro bowlers
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Speaker 1: game on Sunday at three twenty five against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: And if you haven't gotten word already, the Washington football
Speaker 1: team plays Carolina on Sunday and that game got flexed
Speaker 1: to three oh five. It was a new game. It's
Speaker 1: now at three oh five. And of course the reason
Speaker 1: behind that is if Washington had won that game, they
Speaker 1: would have eliminated Dallas hand Philadelphia, I guess for the
Speaker 1: NFC East title. And so they want to keep the
Speaker 1: suspense going all about my head. I tell you, boy,
Speaker 1: I'd have the Cowboys and the Eagles knowing going into
Speaker 1: their game that they might be eliminated. So so, you know,
Speaker 1: I think about about situations like that. It shows the
Speaker 1: significance of the Cowboys, right, even in this situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, God, let's say I was a Let's
Speaker 1: say I was a supporter of a team, you know,
Speaker 1: whether I was a family member, like like Bill said, girlfriend, son, daughter,
Speaker 1: you're coming to see my father or whatever. Play brother
Speaker 1: and I got a flight out. It's a noon game, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got flat out at say six, you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's playing the time now, you know, Come on, man,
Speaker 1: what do I do now? What do I do? Now?
Speaker 1: My plans are made? You change it? What the week
Speaker 1: of the company? Like? What four days before the game?
Speaker 1: I can't change this flight, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's just crazy, man, I think about those inconveniences sometimes
Speaker 1: in regards it's just for you know, ever since truly
Speaker 1: it's not just for family members. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: Like for let's say it happened to the Cowboys, Let's
Speaker 1: say the Cowboys were going from noon at this late
Speaker 1: time to three o'clock kickoff. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: people who fly in just for the Cowboy game, and
Speaker 1: if it was a noon game, might have a six
Speaker 1: or seven o'clock fly like scouts or scouts or agents
Speaker 1: or anything like independent journalists, right, I mean not, there's
Speaker 1: just so many different categories. Yeah, yeah, journalists. So, speaking
Speaker 1: speaking of Washington's getting flexed, if Dwayne Hatskins is suspended
Speaker 1: and they may do that and Alex Smith is not
Speaker 1: ready to play, he's got a calf injury, who's next
Speaker 1: on their roster to play quarterback? Somebody from the practice squad?
Speaker 1: He was out there the other day. He was out
Speaker 1: there the other day, wasn't he Let me look at
Speaker 1: the Washington's did he finish the game? For? Has Washington
Speaker 1: to have Kyle all Is Kyle Allen hurt still? Ye? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's hurt, Allen. He's hurt, So Josh hurt. Josh
Speaker 1: Woodrum was on their practice squad earlier. Off to look
Speaker 1: it up to see who's on it now. I thought
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen was on injured reserve. Oh Heineck, Taylor Heineke.
Speaker 1: They signed Taylor Heineke or Tyler Heineke after after Alan
Speaker 1: went down. I believe so here used to be in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: So here's their situation. Haskins as a starter is now
Speaker 1: one in four, Kyle Allen was one in three, and
Speaker 1: Alex Smith was four and one. So think about what's
Speaker 1: happened to them. If Alex Smith is not ready to
Speaker 1: come back and play this week, and and Dwayne Haskins,
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Speaker 1: So there they're okay, we're going off the rails here.
Speaker 1: Side of guys, go ahead, get back. Were talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's if they suspend him or you know,
Speaker 1: find them, I don't know what they might do. I
Speaker 1: mean there's some rules there. Um, if Alex Smith's not ready,
Speaker 1: what is the rule? What what is the protocol? What
Speaker 1: is the PC? They can find them, they can suspend them,
Speaker 1: they can put them on COVID reserve list. The league
Speaker 1: can do it. The team doesn't even have to do
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you with the league or our team,
Speaker 1: and the team said that they were going to consult
Speaker 1: the league about it. So the league may have something
Speaker 1: to say about this one. They're gonna beg the league
Speaker 1: not to suspend them so they won't have to go
Speaker 1: deep into the practice. Right when they made the three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because of close contact without mask on, they made
Speaker 1: them sit them. So this is this is that could
Speaker 1: play so well into the Cowboys hands, that could play
Speaker 1: so well into the hands Maybe to come on, man
Speaker 1: by drama. This is some drama, right, the worms turning.
Speaker 1: I love it. This is drama. We got strip joints,
Speaker 1: we got lemon pepper wings, we got crab legs. Come on,
Speaker 1: man only twenty twenty. Okay, I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: I'm reading the story, trying to figure out where they
Speaker 1: are as far as uh Alex Smith goes and so forth.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's an interesting game to begin with
Speaker 1: because of course it's Ron Rivera's former team, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: that they're going up against, and so people are thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a little extra motivation there. But even from the
Speaker 1: Panther side, I like what Matt Rule has done at Carolina,
Speaker 1: and even with a healthy roster or with a non
Speaker 1: COVID issue on the Washington team, with the quarterback, I
Speaker 1: kind of like Carolina's chances as a sleeper in this game.
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a veteran quarterback like Teddy, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm assuming he's still healthy. I didn't see
Speaker 1: him go down, But someone like him who's just so
Speaker 1: even tempered, level headed, got the experience, knows his wide
Speaker 1: receiver as well. And every game they've played pretty much
Speaker 1: they've had a chance to win it. Now their record
Speaker 1: is not that good, but they've just had some problems defensively.
Speaker 1: But otherwise that team is no walkover and they're playing
Speaker 1: for next year too. I mean, when you look at Carolina,
Speaker 1: they fired their GM on Monday, and so this uff
Speaker 1: that they're putting on tape into this season for the
Speaker 1: new GM who eventually will be hired there, they're going
Speaker 1: to be taking a close look at it. So there's
Speaker 1: motivation for those Carolina players to play well against Washington
Speaker 1: this week. And you start talking about it's not talking about,
Speaker 1: you know where the team is that two middle of
Speaker 1: the pack to try and tank a game, So it
Speaker 1: wouldn't benefit them at all. Right, So those are the
Speaker 1: kind of teams. They're gonna play it out, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna play out this season strong. And but my point
Speaker 1: on the GM is Okay, Now you've got a new
Speaker 1: regime coming in and so it's a fresh sheet of
Speaker 1: paper for everybody. And so now they can look at
Speaker 1: these final two games, says, hey, I've got an opportunity.
Speaker 1: I might have an opportunity in Carolina next year with
Speaker 1: the whoever comes in that's new. Um. Anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting as far as the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: Eagles go this week. And you know, we've got another
Speaker 1: show tomorrow to talk about ja Eland Hurts as well.
Speaker 1: But uh, it's just gonna be very interesting to see
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are doing game planning for Hurts because
Speaker 1: because Hurts obviously the Cowboys have had such issues uh
Speaker 1: as far as their run defense is concerned running quarterbacks
Speaker 1: as well, going back to the Arizona game with Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore game and uh, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: even Adam from Washington was was nimble footing around there
Speaker 1: for us. It's gonna be fascinating to see the chess game, uh,
Speaker 1: from an offensive strategy, new quarterback and Hurts making his
Speaker 1: third start against what the Cowboys can come up with defensively.
Speaker 1: As far as the game plan without Layton vander Esh, Well,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna play, just play four cornerbacks. Any last
Speaker 1: what we did there Grambling, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: What are you hearing on the You don't have you
Speaker 1: don't have anybody that can run with him as a linebacker, right,
Speaker 1: you would have to use a dB to try and run,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure who can run with him. Uh
Speaker 1: what am I hearing on? Well, vander he's he's probably out.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a high ankle sprain that he's
Speaker 1: probably out at least a couple of weeks. You would think, Uh,
Speaker 1: I thought maybe between Antoine Woods, uh, Neville Gallimore, maybe
Speaker 1: they get back Xavier Woods with his ribs and Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup with a hip injury. We'll see where that goes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they're gonna have to figure out what to
Speaker 1: do at linebacker. You know, they kind of did a
Speaker 1: combination of of Sean Lee and Joe Thomas. Uh, although
Speaker 1: a lot of times what they had when Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: was in the second linebacker, he was lining up on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and he was blitching quite a bit.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll have to remain and see where those
Speaker 1: injuries go. One thing you have to be worried about. Guys.
Speaker 1: We know that Jalen could run the ball, We've seen that.
Speaker 1: But his passing has definitely improved. I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: deep passes, but those gain management, intermedia throws. He's pretty
Speaker 1: decent at that. And he's got wide receivers that can
Speaker 1: just get open long enough for him to find them.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about experience at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: We're not just looking at the running game here. We're
Speaker 1: looking at setups, we're looking at play action. You know,
Speaker 1: these teams have seen each other so many times. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be a dangerous game for the Cowboys. All right.
Speaker 1: To Mickey's point, as far as how fast Jalen hurts is,
Speaker 1: how fast do you think he is? Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: know what his forty speed is, but he sure seems
Speaker 1: fast on the field. I've given him a four four
Speaker 1: I'm guessing four, yeah, four four five at the combine.
Speaker 1: At the at the combine he ran a four or
Speaker 1: five nine, four or five nine combine. Combines are tough, yeah,
Speaker 1: combines a tough sometimes to run. I think having watched
Speaker 1: him every game is last year at in college at
Speaker 1: Oklahoma it's not so much as speed. He's a smart runner. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is a lot of times. Uh. It was design runs. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I see him that with the Eagles, which is
Speaker 1: very smart game playing wise with him. Uh. And where
Speaker 1: he gets in an isolated situation where he just has
Speaker 1: to beat one guy or or on those zone reads,
Speaker 1: you know, he just has to make the decision and
Speaker 1: it's wide open. He is, to your point, both Mickey
Speaker 1: and eversin he does he seems to cut, he run,
Speaker 1: he glides, He covers ground quickly, even though he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the track speed. You know, he doesn't have that
Speaker 1: same kind of speed quickness that Kyler Murray has as
Speaker 1: far as being elusive like that. But if it's there,
Speaker 1: he makes the most of it. And so I think,
Speaker 1: and that's why I think from a strategic standpoint, scheming
Speaker 1: both offensively and defensively, it's fascinating because that's I think
Speaker 1: how he makes his yardage in the one thing before
Speaker 1: we go, one thing before we break. You know, when
Speaker 1: you start talking about running the forty, that's a whole
Speaker 1: black quarterback thing, you know that, right? Jack Harris James
Speaker 1: Harris from Gramley State University said he ran as slow
Speaker 1: as he could so they wouldn't put him a tight end.
Speaker 1: So Jalen Hurst probably was like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: impress them too much with my speed because they're all
Speaker 1: really trying to put me in the slot. So that's
Speaker 1: a black quarterback thing right there. We won't we won't
Speaker 1: go on those uh those combines. I think. I think
Speaker 1: all you gotta do with Jalen Hurts is see him
Speaker 1: throw the football. I mean that was the first thing
Speaker 1: when he when they announced he was transferred from Alabama
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma, and I looked at him, I said, well,
Speaker 1: I was excited about it. This guy, I mean, he
Speaker 1: hadn't probed me, no thought of moving rows. He improved
Speaker 1: his cornerback powers while in college. I still take my
Speaker 1: chances of him throwing the ball and keep him in
Speaker 1: the pocket then creating on the outside. And exhibit A
Speaker 1: to what Bill was talking about was last night Finley
Speaker 1: was killing the Steelers running the ball. This guy didn't
Speaker 1: look mean Lamon Jackson. Yeah right, the guy didn't look
Speaker 1: like he could run a five flat forty and he
Speaker 1: was killing him running. He goes in standing up, he's
Speaker 1: standing up. He goes in standing up. You know, I think.
Speaker 1: Steve Young was talking about it on the pregame show
Speaker 1: last night on ESPN. You know, and Steve Young ways
Speaker 1: a terrific running quarterback, you know, very elusive, but he
Speaker 1: talks about the you know, the way offenses are designed
Speaker 1: today in the mobile quarterbacks, the run past threat. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's too much area for defenses to cover. They give
Speaker 1: you twenty five yards to run with. Chris, Chris looks
Speaker 1: like this, looks like Bill Christie Man, that's your man.
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Speaker 1: we got a few minutes left? Well I left us
Speaker 1: with five minutes left here of mix shots. Well, I
Speaker 1: know before we went to break You're go ahead, Micky,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I had a mix shot for you.
Speaker 1: I want to hear it. So right now, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at five and nine would have the ninth pick in
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft only because their their strength of schedule
Speaker 1: is weaker than the other four teams that are currently
Speaker 1: five and nine. So that's how close this thing is.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys at five and nine and the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: at five and nine are thirteenth. So there's five teams
Speaker 1: right now at five and nine. The Cowboys their strength
Speaker 1: of schedule four ninety five, the Giants five oh three,
Speaker 1: the Lions five oh five, San Francisco five thirty three,
Speaker 1: and Denver five seventy seven. So has this thing plays out,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some changes even if you win games
Speaker 1: or lose games, because they're all bunched up so closely.
Speaker 1: And there's two teams right now at six and eight,
Speaker 1: Minnesota and New England. So this whole thing about tanking
Speaker 1: and losing and oh if you're winning, it's all jumbled
Speaker 1: up in there and it won't be decided so many
Speaker 1: different things will how do I say this decide these ties?
Speaker 1: Because these teams all have to play so many different games.
Speaker 1: I have a question. I have one question. If I'm
Speaker 1: a New York Jets fan and I want them to tank,
Speaker 1: what do I do with Sam Donald? Like the rest
Speaker 1: of the way. Yeah, it's yeah. I mean that they're
Speaker 1: all talking about getting sunshine. That's what I call him.
Speaker 1: They're talking about getting sunshine. And so what do you
Speaker 1: do with this this quarterback that you held it so highly,
Speaker 1: you know, just a couple of years ago. Sunshine. It's
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Okay, but he's going to Jacksonville, now, is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess Jacksonville's got the top pick now because the
Speaker 1: Jets one. So let's say if the Jets lost, That
Speaker 1: was my point. Yeah, let's say if the Jets lost,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna get another quarterback? You got Sam Donald
Speaker 1: over here that you just he was our guy, that
Speaker 1: was our guy. Well you let's just look at how
Speaker 1: well he can throw the ball, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: how great he's gonna be, and he's gonna take these
Speaker 1: Jets somewhere. And now Jets are grounded. Now you're you're
Speaker 1: looking for sunshine. So let's say Jacksonville stupidly in tanking eyes,
Speaker 1: stupidly wins the game. Yeah, so the Jets are back
Speaker 1: ended again. So you got Donald and then you're saying, okay,
Speaker 1: we want sunshine. So what happens with Donald, Well, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson would say, yes, you want both, you want both,
Speaker 1: you can't That's what he said even this year or
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys that with that coming back, you want
Speaker 1: top pick in dak And I'm waiting to hear. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, And tomorrow we'll talk about what if
Speaker 1: what Philadelphia does with Carson Wentz. There, there you go,
Speaker 1: that's another way and come and pass this one up.
Speaker 1: So Detroit they got interim head coach, right, he fires
Speaker 1: the special teams coach because the special teams coach didn't
Speaker 1: listen to him. Can you imagine the special team coach going, nah,
Speaker 1: you're only the interim head coach. I want to Brandon
Speaker 1: Brandon Coombs. And they were fourth and four, fourth and
Speaker 1: fourth at their own thirty one and all they picked
Speaker 1: up was three yards. And he fired him the next
Speaker 1: day because Tennessee, he probably fired him. He probably fired
Speaker 1: him on the locker room because said he said he
Speaker 1: had to go to the GM and the upper management
Speaker 1: to see what they wanted to do here because that's
Speaker 1: just not the right culture here for the special teams coach.
Speaker 1: So I heard people talking about how how John fossil
Speaker 1: Uh makes the calls for the fakes on his own
Speaker 1: without McCarthy calling him. I'm going, are you serious? Serious?
Speaker 1: Learned some fun? Ye? Noope, that's not gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: yet it happened in Detroit. Yet it happened, and worst
Speaker 1: and if the last time it's gonna happen in Detroit,
Speaker 1: Tennessee was up thirty eighteen and all they needed was
Speaker 1: six plays to make it forty to eighteen or thirty
Speaker 1: nine eighteen. Well, that's a little different to it when
Speaker 1: you're down thirty two to eighteen rather than twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: or twenty to sixteen. Who y'are talking about? I don't nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm not there. You guys are talking about? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: just threw that out as a random example. My point
Speaker 1: on my point on the matter with calling fakes onlike
Speaker 1: a punt, It's not like you looked at it and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, let's run that fake. You've planned out that.
Speaker 1: If we get in this situation and we need a
Speaker 1: fake at this point, here is the one we're gonna
Speaker 1: use for this game because I've scouted how they defend
Speaker 1: the punt. Not oh yeah, let's just go. Hey, hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: you better, you better at least get a wink. You
Speaker 1: better at least get a wink from the coach or
Speaker 1: something before you make sure you guys on the same
Speaker 1: day that's got you got the green light on it,
Speaker 1: or else you gotta be home for Christmas. Look on
Speaker 1: the bright side, that Special Team's coach he got, he
Speaker 1: gets to be home for Christmas. No, maybe that was
Speaker 1: what he wanted anyway. All right, I think we're out
Speaker 1: of time now. We're gonna take our final break here,
Speaker 1: which means we are done with the show here on
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