WEBVTT - Chapter 2: An Untamed Place 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.040 Bridgewater is a production of iHeart Radio three D Audio 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:08.360 and Grimm and Mild from Aaronmankey Headphones recommended for a 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:57.720 full exposure Listen with headphones. Listener discretion advised. Dad at 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:31.800 why ya h oh m hmm yeah, good morning, Professor, 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:40.000 morning um, Professor Bradshaw. Did you sleep here? M hm no, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.280 uh no, No. I got here a few hours ago 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.640 and I couldn't sleep, and I was just I was 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.560 just trying to get some work done. And I guess 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.080 my own writing was that thing that finally put me 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:56.800 to sleep. Okay, I have to ask, are you okay? Yeah, 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:01.200 I'm fine. It's just um having a dream I got. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.720 I got lost in Freetown forest once. Am I supposed 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.920 to know what that means? No, I just I forgot. 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:09.920 But when I was a little boy, my dad and 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.560 I went hiking in the woods, and I guess hiking 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.880 is probably a strong word. We went, We went for walks, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.520 We went for walks all the time. He just loved 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.359 that forest. And there was this one time when I 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.240 guess I saw something and wandered off, and then when 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.480 I turned around, I had lost him. Except that was 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:35.079 broad daylight. It wasn't night. Right, Well, that's good. Right, 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.560 I'm sure it was easier to find you. No, no, no, no, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.000 that's not that's not what I'm talking about. It just 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.360 I'm sorry. I just woke up from a dream just 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.880 now about that day, except it was pitch black and 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:52.320 there was something, there was something behind me. Just feeling 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.920 a little um, feeling unsettled. I guess it's all of 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.000 the old memories being dredged up. Well, I can say 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.040 this from personal experience that I doubt falling asleep on 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.639 your desk helps much with feeling settled. Yeah, you are 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.560 probably right. What are you? What are you doing here 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.919 so early? Well? I am glad you asked, because I 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.280 went down a bit of a rabbit hole last night. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.600 But it was so fun I can see that. Wow. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.840 Is this all about Anne Becker? Yep, the one and 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.040 only Anne Becker. Oh hipp And why because I don't 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.800 think she's crazy? Okay, okay, just hear me out. She 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:34.920 has closed more disappearance cases, hikers, kids, even a missing 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:39.120 dog once than anyone else in this entire county. I 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.200 found local news clippings, public records, some news segments from 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.240 the early nineties. I mean, this lady, she is a 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.520 hero to a lot of people, and then the freaking 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.200 force they just edged her out. I just think when 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.680 you meet her, you should go in with an open mind. Oh, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.280 vipp and I already met her. What Yeah, I want 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.960 to see her us night. I don't I don't know 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.800 what to tell you. She thinks my dad encountered some 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.760 kind of a monster wormhole or something. I mean, it's nuts, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.240 it's something of something down by the lake, that's what 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.920 she says, right, Okay, yeah, But in her defense, water 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.720 has been known to be a conduit for also, Oh 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.920 my god, Fippen, it is not real. None of it 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.120 is real. And you know that. No, I don't know that. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.479 I just I know that. You know, we should just 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:28.320 have a healthy sense of skepticism, but that is what 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.479 I have. You cannot be skeptical about skepticism. No, I 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:33.520 know that. I just I just I know that we 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.559 don't know everything, Professor. I am skeptical, skeptical of anyone 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.720 who claims to understand everything about our world. But there 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:45.599 is so much that's unexplainable. But it's not unexplainable. There 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.640 is a rational explanation for everything. We just have to 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:53.200 find it. Is there because look right here, in a 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.440 year after your father went missing. There, thank you. I 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.480 can do the math. A motorist ran over an eighteen 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:02.480 foot Boa constrictor. Becker herself is quoted in this article 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.880 saying nothing surprises them anymore. It wasn't the first or 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.800 the last time that they found an enormous snake in 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:13.640 this area with no explanation of its origins. I mean, 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:17.920 come on, people have weird hobbies. Maybe someone was breeding 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.000 them and setting them free. Maybe maybe an escape from 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.600 a kid's terrarium. Okay, okay, maybe, but I kept digging, 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.400 and sightings of giant sneakes go back all the way 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:32.120 to the twenties. There are some things that you can't explain, professor, No, 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:35.279 there are things that I can't explain. Yet. That doesn't 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.719 mean that my dad encountered something supernatural. Okay, he was 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.960 investigating a cult. End of story with Ann Becker. She 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.600 was the other police officer on the case, and she 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:52.760 doesn't believe the cult theories. I know. Okay, Why why 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:58.640 are you bothering with all this? Because I knew you wouldn't. 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.159 In my four years of knowing you, I've heard you 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:06.360 talk about your dad half a dozen times. Maybe you've 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.919 buried what happened. But at the same time, you decided 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.599 to dedicate your life to studying the supernatural. I don't 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.600 study the supernatural, tip and I study reports of the supernatural. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.600 I study stories about the supernatural. It's a very different thing. 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.400 And then you decided to spend the next few years 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.440 writing a book on the area that took your dad 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.240 away from you. Oh my god, right now, I am 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:32.520 so regretting recommending that graduate psychology class to you, professor, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.960 I'm serious, serious about what. So There've been a couple 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.000 of giant snakes, and Becker has found a lot of 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.800 missing people. So what what does that mean? Do you 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.800 think it's weird that your dad's badge was found in 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:49.000 Freetown Forest when he went missing in Hackamox Swamp. What 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:56.120 this article right here? Uh? December twelve police officer Thomas 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.960 Bradshaw was last seen in Hawka Mock Swamp. Wait did 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.320 you not know that? Ah? No, oh no, my mom 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.480 always told me that he went missing in Freetown Forest. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:11.200 You know it's um, it's possible the paper got it wrong. 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:16.400 It's only one article and fake news and all, Oh god, 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.080 damn it. What I think I need to go back 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:36.600 and talk to Anne Becker m Bradshaw, and he came back. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:43.360 Can I come in? Where did my dad go missing? November? 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.200 Possibly late on the sixteenth. That's impossible to know for certain. No, 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:51.320 not when? Where? Oh that's one of the many things 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.360 we don't know. What the hell are you talking about? 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.800 How can you not know where he went missing? Isn't 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.120 that sort of the whole point of missing? You don't 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.160 know where a pison is? Please don't be clever with me. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.720 You know what I mean? The two of you were 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.800 investigating some cult, the children of Yes, the children of what, 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.960 like the Salem witch trials? Like like that tchaba, a 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.000 bunch of white hippies, misinterpreting history and playing with things 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.440 they couldn't possibly understand. What do you mean by that? 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:31.600 Do you want some coffee? Uh? Sure? And are you 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:36.360 supposed to have these what's that? These old files? Is 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:40.000 all police property, isn't it? M hmm? It's my property. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.600 The police closed the case and Thomas and I were 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.439 the only ones working on it. I wrote all these 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.880 files myself. I'm not sure that's how it works. Oh 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:52.800 so you're an expert on police protocol, Now, how can 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.800 you not know where my dad went missing? Sit down? 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.840 What do you know about your dad's case? I know 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:05.480 that he was investigating a satanic cult, the children of Tituba, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.040 I guess, and he went into Freetown Forest to catch 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.200 them red handed in a ritualal and has never heard 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:17.719 from again. Well that's one theory. That's the theory. We 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.240 were investigating a cult. There have been reports of animal 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.480 sacrifice and strange symbols and the woods pretty standard stuff 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.480 for this part of the country. But then a kid 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:30.960 went missing. A twelve year old was camping with her 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.200 girl Scout troop in the forest and when they woke up, 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.400 she was gone. We searched the woods for hours and 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:40.480 hours deep into the night. I mean, have you ever 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:45.200 been in Freetown Forest at night? No? No, I haven't. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.520 I wouldn't recommend it. People don't think of it as wilderness, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.600 but it is. It doesn't matter how many towns surround it, 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.040 how much civilization has started to encroach on the forest. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.720 It's still untamed. There are some sections where the growth 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:03.120 is so thick that you need a machete to cut 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:07.359 through it, and that is what we did that day 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.959 and night. We were searching for the little girl. We 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.679 tore the forest apart, and nothing, not so much as 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:18.600 a child's footprint. Did you ever find her body? She 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.480 found us. She walked out of the forest the next 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.600 morning like nothing had happened. I didn't remember a damn thing. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.559 Her family moved away a little while after that. I 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.680 guess the girl had nightmares of the forest. I thought 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:39.839 some distance might help, did it? No idea moving someone 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.800 from missing the found is usually the extent of my 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:49.920 relationship with them. So you thought that the children took 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.400 the girl. We did something to her. That's what the 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:57.520 masses wanted to believe. Yeah, children of Chichibo weren't known 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.520 to most people. Your father and I discovered them just 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.440 before he went missing. But there was a religious group 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.080 the gathering, still a bunch of white hippies, but less severe, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.560 mostly robes and chance circles and since crystals, that sort 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:14.360 of thing seem harmless. But they weren't good Christians, so 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:19.239 not beloved in the community. That is putting it mildly. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.280 For two or three years they were active in this area. 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:26.720 Everything got blamed on them, disappearances, theft, even a murderer. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.600 Two giant snakes, mhm, my t A dug up some 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:37.800 old articles. Yeah, the papers love those, even if basilisks 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.959 weren't the weirdest thing spotted in those years. Boa constrictors, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:47.760 excuse me, not basilisks, boa constrictors, basilisks of beasts of 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.600 myth that these were so you think they're not even snakes, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:57.800 They're they're a lizard rooster hybrid. And so what happened 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.160 with the gathering? Nothing? They eventually packed up and left, 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.360 and you never charged them with anything, mom. They never 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.679 committed any crimes as far as we could tell you. 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.520 Open flames in the woods, maybe some littering, but nothing 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.440 worse than that. This doesn't look like nothing. This is 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.040 all the information Thomas and I collected about the area 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.480 after you came by last night. I pulled it all out, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:23.679 and it's all the strange sightings, missing persons, unexplained phenomenon. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.240 The gathering knew more about this stuff than most, and 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.160 they led us to the children of Tichibo, who, to 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:34.160 the mob's credit, more Satanists, though not very effective ones. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.920 What is an effective Satanist? Well, one who fails to 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.160 summon a demon and opens the gates to the underworld. Right, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.840 look do you mind if I take some of these 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.880 homes I've never actually i'd like to look them over. 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.640 Oh yeah, be my guest. I have copies plus all 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:58.120 the tapes. Tapes. Yeah, Thomas took notes that way sometimes. Huh. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:03.480 I think I think I remember that him sitting at 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:08.240 that kitchen table at night speaking into a tape. Require 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:14.240 huh do you can? I can I take those two 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.439 I need I kind of need them. But I can 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.800 make you copies. Thank you. M hm. But you know 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.640 that stack of philes there, those those were all written 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.440 by Thomas. He would copy over all of his audio 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.120 onto the official reports. We still handwrote most things back then. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.000 You know, you're welcome to him. I got plenty of photocopies. Yeah, 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:42.120 I see that. I write my capital bees in the 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.920 same way. I didn't even realize I was copying him. Well, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.439 you know what that is a plenty of sitting around 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:53.040 for one morning. Come on, what what what? We're going 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.080 into the forest. We're going to find out who are what? 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:24.400 Dug up Thomas's batch? Have you spent much time in 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.200 these woods? Some? Yeah? Actually a fair deal. My dad, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:33.040 My dad and I would take hikes every Saturday. A 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.080 man as an adult. I remember the hikes you and 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:40.320 your dad took. You guys were close. Huh, we got along, 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.200 you know. We both thought that there was more to 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.000 this forest, more to this whole area than most people 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.960 wanted to believe. No, my dad didn't believe in all 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.960 that nonsense. Trust me, you were a child. You think 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.680 he was going to tell you about the monsters in 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.880 the woods. Why are you doing this, Jeremy, Why why 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.800 did you come back to see me? My t a 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:07.080 um his name is Vipen. Those articles he dug up. 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.960 One mentioned that my dad went missing in Hackamuck Swamp, 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.040 and I had always been told the Freetown forest was 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.040 the last place that he'd been seeing, And I, I 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.720 guess I just want to know the truth. The truth is, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:23.520 we don't know. Hawkamock and Freetown were the two hotspots 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:25.640 at the time, and they still are. But you know, 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.400 we didn't have jurisdiction in Hackamon didn't stop us from looking, though, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:34.480 and we scoured both areas and found nothing without concrete evidence. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.760 The room of mill spun whatever was most interesting at 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:41.040 the moment. I just I wouldn't believe a thing that 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:45.760 you read in those old papers. I see Why didn't 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.680 you wonder about all of this until now? What's the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.160 use of wondering. My dad's gone and he's never coming back. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:57.120 Nothing's going to change that, Especially crazy theories about monsters 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.680 and hotter woods. Such a strange first spective for a 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.680 folklore professor. No, on the contrary, I think it's the 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.640 only perspective for someone like me. If I actually believed 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:08.920 in this stuff, I would not be able to look 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:14.280 at it academically. Academics, Yeah, because I'd save so many lives. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:22.640 All right, look at that academically. Okay, Um, well they 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:29.880 were carved recently. They look fresh. Um, do you recognize them? 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.120 I have to say stone carvings are pretty standard in 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.359 my line of work and in this area in particular. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.480 But no, not immediately. I'll have hip and start to 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:43.920 look them up. Man, would've been really nice to have 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.800 that in my day. I'm pretty sure they had cameras 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.600 in the nineteen seventies. Al Right, smartass we did, but 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.800 we couldn't instantly send them to an assistant, you know, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.880 had to print them, do our own research. I do 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.920 my own research. If my book it has a whole 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.280 chapter on rock carvings, Dighton Rock being a feature, of course, 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.760 But these are quite distinct from the usual North American petroglyphs. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.440 I can tell you that much. Yeah, they look brand new. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.680 I think they must be. I would guess that it's 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.440 just teams having a laugh. But there is a pattern here, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.760 and this looks similar to the Wapaog symbol for water. 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.400 But what do you think about twenty ft from where 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.680 that badge was found? How would you know exactly where 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.200 it was found. The way that that rock is pointed, 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.240 You know, it might act like is kind of a sundial. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.320 I bet you that it cast a shadow right here 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:44.240 at a certain hour. Okay, that seems like unnecessary speculation. Okay, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.959 well you'll learn nothing counts of speculating out here. I 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.400 doubt the carvings have anything to do with the badge. 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.680 There's petroglyphs all over this forest and there's nothing else here. Look, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.520 I mean, if this were really where the badge was found, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.119 it could have easily washed up. It's actually much closer 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.399 to the shore than I expected, right, because lake water 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:11.000 really polishes metal and leather over forty years. Okay, do 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:15.760 you see anything that suggests foul play? Not yet, But 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.520 that doesn't mean there isn't we need to talk to 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:27.520 those hikers. Hey, look, I know you know all these folks, 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.920 but just let me do the talking. Mm hmm. You're 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:34.920 worried they won't believe the crazy lady. We actually don't 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.359 need them to believe anything. We just we just need 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.440 some names. When we brought in that badge the other day, 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.440 you spent two hours questioning us, and now you can't 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.040 even listen to me. Well, it isn't down, lucky. It 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.719 hasn't been twenty four hours. I know, but I'm worried 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.720 about him. You said he just moved here, right, He's 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.240 probably just out exploring the area and what he left 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.960 his phone behind. He hasn't responded to a single text 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.639 or call in fourteen hours. I'm his only friend in 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.560 this entire state, and I know I'm sorry. Miss. There's 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.440 nothing we can do until twenty four hours have passed. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.760 He's an adult. It isn't a crime for him to 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.920 go off the grid for half a day. He's been 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.639 having nightmares since the other day when we found that 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:22.600 bad What kind of nightmares? Ms? Becca? This is a 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:25.240 police matter, honey. I was a police officer so longer 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.639 than you've been alive. My friend is missing. He's not missing. 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.320 He's been gone for a few hours. Look, I know 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:36.120 that there's a window. I know there's no window. What 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.160 he's telling you have to wait twenty four hours? Yes, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.560 Officer McDermott, correct me if I'm wrong. But Section one, 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.879 Chapter thirty eight A of Massachusetts law states that acceptance 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.639 of a missing person's report cannot be refused on any grounds, 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.879 including the length of time an individual has been missing. 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:58.440 Isn't that right? Yes, ma'am. So why don't you go 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.440 back to your desk and get a report started while 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.120 I talked to this young woman. I'll send her right 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.920 over once I'm done, Miss Becca, I really can't let 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.800 you interview with police business. Well, she's not a suspect, 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.639 is she were just two civilians having a chat. Or 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.600 I could go tell Captain Haddock that you were trying 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.800 to get out of doing a little bit of paperwork. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.600 I'll need your friends information to file a report, and 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:29.119 I'll only keep her for a second. Sure, Wow, thank you? 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:34.879 That was Yeah, that was impressive. Although so much for 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.360 letting me do all the talking. And how's your state 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:43.480 law knowledge? Okay? Fair enough? Um, if you don't need 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:45.720 to talk to me. I should probably. Oh, actually, we 0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:48.679 we did come here looking for you, you and your 0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:56.560 friend Daniel, Right, Daniel. What's your name, Katie? I'm Jeremy. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:04.000 You found the police badge? Yeah, he was my father's. Oh, oh, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.200 I'm sorry. Yeah, he's he's been gone a long time. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.680 What's happened with your friend? I don't know. I've hiked 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:16.600 in Freetown Forest hundreds of times and everything seemed to fine. Yeah, 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.480 it was a bit weird to find an old police badge, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:20.000 but it's not like they ever cleaned up the place, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:22.800 so he didn't go missing when you were hiking. No, 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.720 he seemed totally fine. But then he calls me late 0:21:28.040 --> 0:21:30.360 last night, at at like two am, and he's either 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:33.119 drunk or sleep crazy or I don't know what, because 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:36.280 he was ranting about how something followed him back from 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:41.000 the woods. But I mean something followed him. Yeah, he's 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.760 been having nightmares all night, every night since the hike, 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:47.359 and then last night he said he was dreaming about 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:51.480 something following him, behind him, following in his footsteps. He 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:55.200 said something about lights and quills. I don't know, it 0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:59.720 doesn't make sense. When he woke up, he was convinced 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.080 that something was outside his window, something with quills. That's 0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:06.040 what he said. He just moved here from New York, 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.040 and I know that things are a big quieter than 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:14.880 he's used to. But I was telling him about ghosts 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.240 in the forest. I know I shouldn't have been. He's 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.639 not like me. He doesn't believe in all this stuff, 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:22.879 so I thought it would be fine. It's not your 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:24.960 fault if a creature followed him out of the forest. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.080 There is no such thing as monsters. No, I know 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:33.360 that I do. But there are spirits in that forest. 0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:36.879 I know there are, and I think I think maybe 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:41.840 I made them angry. I really didn't mean to. Daniel 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.280 doesn't believe, so there must have been something. Does Daniel 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:50.280 have any history of mental illness? Um? No, no, not 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:55.400 that I know of. Listen, I'm I'm really freaked out. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.520 So no offense. But I think I'm going to go 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.800 talk to the actual cops about this. Of course, I 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:05.080 hope you find your friend. Thanks Katie. Just one more thing. 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:07.760 There was a rock near the lake. It had a 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:14.560 bunch of simples carved into it. Jeremy, here, did you 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:19.679 happen to notice these? I? No, I don't think so. 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.560 There's lots of carvings in that part of the forest, 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:28.720 the ledges covered in them. Right here. This is my number. 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:31.280 If you think of anything, anything at all, you give 0:23:31.320 --> 0:23:33.080 me a call. I have a lot of experience with 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.959 what can happen in the forest. You mean the spirits? Yeah, 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.040 the police, they might not be able to help with 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:45.399 whatever happened to your friend. Yeah. If it really is spirits, 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:52.359 and I have someone who thank you. You should not 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:57.320 have done that. What encouraging that girl's belief in ghosts 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.000 in the woods, making her believe that her friend might 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.600 be in danger? Friend might be in danger. He is 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:03.200 a young man who just moved to a new place 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.480 and got spooked by some wilderness, and police questioning the 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:10.439 children of titch About didn't take him. Okay, okay, all right, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.600 it's not the Satanist that I'm worried about. Okay, it 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.480 looks like I got to get back to my office. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:18.760 Fiffin was able to identify a couple of the symbols 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.560 carved into the rock. Good good, that's good, and I'll 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.760 come with you. Compared to our old notes. See if 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:29.080 there's an overlap. I think it's happening again. Bradshaw, and 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:30.760 it's not going to take more people this time. I 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.040 won't let it. I don't mean to be rude, miss Becker, 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.160 but I really don't think that we're on the same 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.119 page here. It is clear that neither of those hikers 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.480 know anything about how the badge got there. It really 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:43.720 was just random coincidence, just like one of them being 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:47.360 missing now is a coincidence. There's not some big conspiracy 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.879 at work. Nothing is happening again because nothing happened the 0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:56.960 first time, just like your mother. Excuse me, why come 0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.960 with me to the forest, then? Why bother with any 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.560 of this? I really need to go. No, Jeremy, you 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.280 have to listen to me. Your father, he was worried 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.200 that night, the last time that I saw him. He 0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:10.960 wasn't himself. I think I think he knew. I think 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:13.840 he knew that something more was going on. Something had 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.560 followed him too, And he's not the only one. I'm sorry. 0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.720 I don't think I can help you if you are 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:24.480 not careful, If you don't listen to me, it will 0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.760 get you too. What will get me to huh? You 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:30.560 don't even know what it is that you're afraid of 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.520 and fear for. Fear sake is just not something that 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:44.040 I'm interested in entertaining by ann whoa, it sounds intense. Yeah, 0:25:44.280 --> 0:25:47.119 it was the look in her eyes. It's so odd. 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:50.600 It was like one moment she's taking down a negligent 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.000 cop several notches, and then the next she's gone completely 0:25:54.040 --> 0:26:00.640 tinfoil hat kan the rice. I have to say your 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.720 text was perfectly timed. I just wanted out. Yeah, I've 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.320 helped a lot of friends on bad dates. Hey, I'm 0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:11.840 sorry I couldn't figure out more. I think you're right. 0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.640 I think the Wapanog symbol for waters in there, and 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.040 then there's the Norse symbol for fire, but it seems 0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.440 to be an abstraction of the traditional norsem where that 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:23.680 they're paired together. And there's a few in here that 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:28.239 look Japanese. They're definitely not Japanese characters. But it's all 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:32.600 too deliberate just to be random carving. So yeah, exactly. Yeah, 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.639 well thanks for trying all the same. I think we 0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.920 should do another survey of the petroglyphs in the area 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.120