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Speaker 1: why ya h oh m hmm yeah, good morning, Professor,

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Speaker 1: morning um, Professor Bradshaw. Did you sleep here? M hm no,

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Speaker 1: uh no, No. I got here a few hours ago

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't sleep, and I was just I was

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Speaker 1: my own writing was that thing that finally put me

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Speaker 1: to sleep. Okay, I have to ask, are you okay? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. It's just um having a dream I got.

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Speaker 1: I got lost in Freetown forest once. Am I supposed

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Speaker 1: to know what that means? No, I just I forgot.

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Speaker 1: But when I was a little boy, my dad and

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Speaker 1: I went hiking in the woods, and I guess hiking

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Speaker 1: is probably a strong word. We went, We went for walks,

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Speaker 1: guess I saw something and wandered off, and then when

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Speaker 1: broad daylight. It wasn't night. Right, Well, that's good. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was easier to find you. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's not that's not what I'm talking about. It just

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just woke up from a dream just

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Speaker 1: now about that day, except it was pitch black and

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Speaker 1: there was something, there was something behind me. Just feeling

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Speaker 1: a little um, feeling unsettled. I guess it's all of

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Speaker 1: the old memories being dredged up. Well, I can say

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Speaker 1: this from personal experience that I doubt falling asleep on

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Speaker 1: your desk helps much with feeling settled. Yeah, you are

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Speaker 1: probably right. What are you? What are you doing here

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Speaker 1: so early? Well? I am glad you asked, because I

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Speaker 1: went down a bit of a rabbit hole last night.

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Speaker 1: But it was so fun I can see that. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Is this all about Anne Becker? Yep, the one and

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Speaker 1: only Anne Becker. Oh hipp And why because I don't

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Speaker 1: think she's crazy? Okay, okay, just hear me out. She

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Speaker 1: has closed more disappearance cases, hikers, kids, even a missing

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Speaker 1: dog once than anyone else in this entire county. I

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Speaker 1: found local news clippings, public records, some news segments from

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Speaker 1: the early nineties. I mean, this lady, she is a

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Speaker 1: hero to a lot of people, and then the freaking

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Speaker 1: force they just edged her out. I just think when

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Speaker 1: you meet her, you should go in with an open mind. Oh,

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Speaker 1: vipp and I already met her. What Yeah, I want

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Speaker 1: to see her us night. I don't I don't know

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Speaker 1: what to tell you. She thinks my dad encountered some

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Speaker 1: kind of a monster wormhole or something. I mean, it's nuts,

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Speaker 1: it's something of something down by the lake, that's what

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Speaker 1: she says, right, Okay, yeah, But in her defense, water

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Speaker 1: has been known to be a conduit for also, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Fippen, it is not real. None of it

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Speaker 1: is real. And you know that. No, I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I just I know that. You know, we should just

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Speaker 1: have a healthy sense of skepticism, but that is what

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Speaker 1: I have. You cannot be skeptical about skepticism. No, I

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Speaker 1: know that. I just I just I know that we

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Speaker 1: don't know everything, Professor. I am skeptical, skeptical of anyone

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Speaker 1: who claims to understand everything about our world. But there

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Speaker 1: is so much that's unexplainable. But it's not unexplainable. There

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Speaker 1: is a rational explanation for everything. We just have to

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Speaker 1: find it. Is there because look right here, in a

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Speaker 1: year after your father went missing. There, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: can do the math. A motorist ran over an eighteen

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Speaker 1: foot Boa constrictor. Becker herself is quoted in this article

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Speaker 1: a kid's terrarium. Okay, okay, maybe, but I kept digging,

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Speaker 1: and sightings of giant sneakes go back all the way

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Speaker 1: to the twenties. There are some things that you can't explain, professor, No,

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Speaker 1: there are things that I can't explain. Yet. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that my dad encountered something supernatural. Okay, he was

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Speaker 1: investigating a cult. End of story with Ann Becker. She

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Speaker 1: doesn't believe the cult theories. I know. Okay, Why why

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Speaker 1: In my four years of knowing you, I've heard you

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Speaker 1: study the supernatural, tip and I study reports of the supernatural.

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Speaker 1: I study stories about the supernatural. It's a very different thing.

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Speaker 1: And then you decided to spend the next few years

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Speaker 1: so regretting recommending that graduate psychology class to you, professor,

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Speaker 1: I'm serious, serious about what. So There've been a couple

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Speaker 1: missing people. So what what does that mean? Do you

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Speaker 1: think it's weird that your dad's badge was found in

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Speaker 1: Freetown Forest when he went missing in Hackamox Swamp. What

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Speaker 1: this article right here? Uh? December twelve police officer Thomas

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Speaker 1: Bradshaw was last seen in Hawka Mock Swamp. Wait did

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Speaker 1: you not know that? Ah? No, oh no, my mom

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Speaker 1: always told me that he went missing in Freetown Forest.

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Speaker 1: You know it's um, it's possible the paper got it wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's only one article and fake news and all, Oh god,

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Speaker 1: damn it. What I think I need to go back

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Speaker 1: and talk to Anne Becker m Bradshaw, and he came back.

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Speaker 1: Can I come in? Where did my dad go missing? November?

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Speaker 1: Possibly late on the sixteenth. That's impossible to know for certain. No,

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Speaker 1: not when? Where? Oh that's one of the many things

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Speaker 1: we don't know. What the hell are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: How can you not know where he went missing? Isn't

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Speaker 1: that sort of the whole point of missing? You don't

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Speaker 1: know where a pison is? Please don't be clever with me.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? The two of you were

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Speaker 1: investigating some cult, the children of Yes, the children of what,

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Speaker 1: like the Salem witch trials? Like like that tchaba, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of white hippies, misinterpreting history and playing with things

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Speaker 1: Do you want some coffee? Uh? Sure? And are you

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Speaker 1: supposed to have these what's that? These old files? Is

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Speaker 1: all police property, isn't it? M hmm? It's my property.

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Speaker 1: The police closed the case and Thomas and I were

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Speaker 1: so you're an expert on police protocol, Now, how can

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Speaker 1: you not know where my dad went missing? Sit down?

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Speaker 1: What do you know about your dad's case? I know

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Speaker 1: that he was investigating a satanic cult, the children of Tituba,

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Speaker 1: them red handed in a ritualal and has never heard

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Speaker 1: Everything got blamed on them, disappearances, theft, even a murderer.

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Speaker 1: You found the police badge? Yeah, he was my father's. Oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: sorry I couldn't figure out more. I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind, No, of course not. My office

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Speaker 1: is your office to night Biben Night, Professor. Professor Bradshaw.

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: Uh no, not yet. We're organizing a search now. But

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Speaker 1: I overheard your conversation with Katie and the symbols, those

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Speaker 1: rock carvings that you brought in. I I know what

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Speaker 1: they are. Bridgewater was created by Aaron Manky and written

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Speaker 1: and directed by Lauren Shippin, with executive producers Aaron Manky,

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Speaker 1: Misha Collins, Matt Frederick and Alex Williams, supervising producer Trevor Young,

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Speaker 1: editing and sound designed by Trevor Young and Matt Stillo,

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Speaker 1: and music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Karen Sony as Vip and Corona,

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Speaker 1: Laurie Allen as Nancy Collins, Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista,

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Speaker 1: Victoria Grace as Katie Frank's Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock,

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Speaker 1: Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Jonathan Joss as Joseph Hoskins,

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Speaker 1: Sabra May as Olivia Hoskins, Samuel Marty as Ethan Hoskins,

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Speaker 1: Kristin Bauer as Celeste, and Nathan Fillion as Thomas Bradshaw,

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Speaker 1: with additional voice acting by Brigand Snow, Andrew Nowak, Julia

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Speaker 1: Maury Sawa, Jarvis Johnson and Brielle Bresnan, Kristen de Mecurio,

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Speaker 1: James Oliva and Leron Amil. Learn more about the show

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Speaker 1: over at Grimm and Mild dot com, Slash Bridgewater and

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