1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: All right, three. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: You just scared that person? 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: I know, security security. 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody. 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 4: I'm Peanut Tuman and this is the NFL Player's Second 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 4: Act podcast with me, as always my trust to co 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 4: host mister one Roman Haupa. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 5: Oh, thank you soior. Okay, thank you so much. Wherever 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 5: you figure a podcast at. I'm really excited about this. 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 5: Next guests played against this guy quite a few times. 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead. 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 4: He's a pro bowler. Fourteen year vet, fourteen years, fourteen years. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: That's that's a lot less blessed. Fourteen year NFL VET. 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 4: He's an analyst for NBC Sports and he has his 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: own podcast called Lots to Say. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: to the pod, Matt Cast. Yes, hey, great to. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Be here with you guys. Great to be here with you, guy, 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. I like you. Jays. Yeah, you know what, 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I just had to stand my shoe game up. 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: I mean this, as you can tell with kids and 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: stuff like that, you're walking around, I need to you know, 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: I need. 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: To get a little paulished up. 25 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 5: But can't we just talk about that, like how mad 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 5: does it make you as a parent when your kids 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 5: step on your shoes. 28 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Bro, this is a real thing. It is a real thing. 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: And I've got five. 30 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, in any given moment, that kid will walk in 31 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: it's muddy outside, and all of a sudden just not 32 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: care where their feet go and step right on your 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: white shoe. And I'm just like, ah, especially if it's 34 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: not the leather where you can just wipe it off, 35 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: you know, where it just sticks and you got to 36 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: put it actually in the wash. 37 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it drives me crazy. 38 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: How old are your kids? 39 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: So I've got fourteen, thirteen, eleven, nine and seven. Man, 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: we knocked it out. Yeah, but we got a lot. 41 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: So, I mean I got four, you got five, I 42 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 4: got four, he got four. 43 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 44 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: It's a blessing, man, it's a blessing. It's crazy because 45 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: we've got you know, we've got three girls. The two 46 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: oldest to the youngest are girls. And my boys are 47 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: the eleven year old in the middle of number four. 48 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: So they all have different personalities. The girls now, you know, 49 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: they're thirteen fourteen, So those sweet little darlings from one 50 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: day to the next, just based on what stage of 51 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: life they're in. You're like, what happened to you today? 52 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: You know, like they're at that stage where you're like, 53 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, so but it's great, man. It's been 54 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: fun watching after being done with football, watching them grow 55 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: and be present and get to go to sports and 56 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: be there as a dad. 57 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: What is the sports that is keeping you busy right now? 58 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 5: Because I know I'm like a very low paid uber. 59 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: Driving that's one hundred percent what I feel like. 60 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: And you know, you get that little reprieve during the 61 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: day where you drop the kids off at school. Yeah, 62 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 3: and then you're like, Okay, got to get my work 63 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: out in. I got to get some of my work done. 64 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: And then that two thirty three o'clock whistle hits and 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: you're picking up. Yeah, the grind, and then you're going 66 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: to this practice drop off here, you know, you might 67 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: have a game, and then it's just all day long 68 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 3: til you get home for maybe some dinner. 69 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: It gets easier when they start driving. 70 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: Though, right I'm not there yet. 71 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: I got two they're driving, so oh that's nice. Yeah, 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: it makes it a lot easier. 73 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: So I got nineteen, seventeen, fifteen and twelve teams in college, 74 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 4: so I'm seventeen, can drop the fifteen around all that, 75 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: and sometimes I just got to make sure the twelve 76 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 4: year old gets to where she has. 77 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: To go to. 78 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get there. I know, I'm please goals. 79 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: My daughter's gonna turn fifteen this year. She's a freshman 80 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 3: in high school, so she'll get her permit. But next 81 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: year she'll she'll be driving for the first time, and 82 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's gonna be nice. It's gonna be nice. 83 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 3: It's a little bit scary, but at the same time 84 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: it'll be nice. So when they can help out a. 85 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 5: Little bit, well, Matt, how are you enjoying the podcast space? 86 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: When I got done among those people that I need purpose? Right, 87 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: And when you get done, I think everybody has to 88 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: kind of reinvent how they look at themselves because forever 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: everybody's like, oh, you're Matt Castle, the football player, right, 90 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: and there's part of you that does that. But then 91 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: at the same time, you have goals and if you're 92 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: ambitious and you want to do something else, you've got 93 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: to get into it. And so I was sitting around 94 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: after that first off season where I'm not playing, I'm 95 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: going what do I want to do? And I thought 96 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: the media space might be something that I wanted to 97 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: go out and try, and so I work for NBC 98 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: Sports Boston. I covered the Patriots for a little while 99 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: and got a little bit of the taste of that 100 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: being on the show like we did to our pregame, 101 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: and so I loved it because you're still talking ball, 102 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: you have your relationships. And then NBC approached me two 103 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: years ago to do college football. I never thought that 104 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: was a space that I'd go back into, and it 105 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: was intimidating, right. You go from thirty two teams, which 106 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: with a bunch of familiar faces to one hundred and 107 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: thirty one teams with a revolving door with the transfer portal, 108 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: the team's changed consistently, and then it was also it 109 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: was with the Big ten. So I'm sitting there going man, 110 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 3: I was in the Pac twelve, right, and so I 111 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: had to learn traditions and all that. So it was 112 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: just a new challenge. But I stepped up and did 113 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: that the last two seasons and that's been so much 114 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 3: fun because I'm the guy that gets to go to 115 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: the stadium do the coverage from there, and there's nothing 116 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: quite like college football and the passant tree, the energy 117 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: and the just the fans. Man, they are passionate and testimate, 118 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: intense human being. 119 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 5: Where's the funnest place you've been to so far that like, 120 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 5: you know, being a Pac twelve guy, you're a West 121 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: Coast guy. 122 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: We did a Colorado Nebraska game this year that was 123 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: it was lit man. 124 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: They were because they they felt like they had a 125 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: good team. 126 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: The young quarterback Dylan Ryola came in and gave him 127 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: some hope. And the crazy part about them is they 128 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: hadn't been to a bowl like since twenty sixteen, and 129 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: they sold out every game. 130 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. 131 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: And then we had the Ohio State Oregon game, which 132 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 3: was I mean, Eugene, I played there and I know 133 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: it's a special place. But just because of the intensity 134 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: of that game and the two of the top teams 135 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: in the country going back and forth, and it lived 136 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: up to the hype. You know, sometimes those games don't 137 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: live up to the hype, but it did. It was 138 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: back and forth, great game. So there was a lot 139 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: of great, great games this year, but those were two 140 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: that really stuck out to me. 141 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 142 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: So since you've had your own your your podcast, lots 143 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: to say, who's been one of your favorite guests? 144 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: Gosh, you know, I played with Jared Allen and I 145 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: was happy for him. Congratulations to him. He just got 146 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: inducted into the Hall of Fame. So he's a teammate 147 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: of mine, and you know those relationships that you have 148 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: on the podcast when you you can tell old stories 149 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: locker room this, and Jared, you just have to dangle 150 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: a little carrot out front him and he'll take it right. 151 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: So he's telling a story about you know, what's an 152 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: injury that you had that you didn't want to. 153 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: Report and he's of course big in the honey. 154 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: He was telling how he was trying to go over 155 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: this barbed wire fence and pour his hand up and 156 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: he tried to go in and tell him something else happened. 157 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: You know. 158 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: It's just funny stories like that that when you you're 159 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: not just talking about XS and go, but you're talking 160 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: about lifestyle and people and they open up in a 161 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: way that you just And that's the fun part for 162 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: me on the podcast in this space in general, is 163 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: you learn more about the individual and people. And the 164 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: cool part about lots to say with Bobby is he's 165 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: in that Bobby Bones and he's in that entertainment space, 166 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: so he's got a lot of crossover. 167 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: So we had Luke. 168 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Bryan on the other day, another entertaining dude. Yeah, like 169 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: just yeah, he's funny. He is funny and he's Country's 170 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: so country big dude too. He is a big dude. 171 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: And then Tim McGraw came on and he had an 172 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: interesting story. He's telling us all about like when he 173 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: was in high school, he's a baller in basketball, average 174 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: like thirty five points a game. Yeah, he said. His 175 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: senior year he scorts like fifty nine sixty points in 176 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: one game. 177 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I would have known that never. Yeah. 178 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: So it's cool to hear these guys because everybody has 179 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: their connection to sports and they all have their own 180 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: backstory and stuff, and so to listen to some of 181 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: these guys comment on their experiences in sports and what 182 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: it's done for them in terms of their drive and 183 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: their commitment level, it's always fun. 184 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: How did you connect with your co host Bobby Bones? 185 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, it was really through the NFL Media group. 186 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: They reached out through an email said that they're looking 187 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: to do a podcast with Bobby Bones and he's in Nashville, 188 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: so it was super convenient for me, and so I 189 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: went and met Bobby, and I thought I was going 190 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: in for like a cup of coffee, sit down and 191 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: get to know you. He was he's got so much 192 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: going on in that multimedia space that he deals with 193 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: with the radio, and he's got his own podcast. So 194 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: I walk in, he's doing his pod. He's like put 195 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 3: on the headphones. I was like, oh, I'm getting interviewed basically. 196 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: So I sat down not prepared, but it was great 197 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: because that's what I knew we could connect on a 198 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: different level because it just felt like you're talking to 199 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: a friend. And that's that's I think what makes the 200 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: best podcast when you're not trying too hard, it's just conversational. 201 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 4: That's kind of what we've tried to do with these 202 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: podcasts for our shows. I think one of the best 203 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 4: ones we had was war Moon year today. 204 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: War Moon just a. 205 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: Little while ago, we had m Smith, very very conversation, 206 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: you love war Moon because war Moon loved Peanut. 207 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 208 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm telling you what some of these legends that walk 209 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 3: around like we had war Moon on yesterday too, and 210 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: I mean I just loved watching him growing up and 211 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 3: his story too undrafted and I was asking about. 212 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Canadian Football League that transition, how hard was that? 213 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: And then he's explaining that you forget like there's twelve 214 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: guys on the field, the dimensions are different, the emotions 215 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And he's like, but it made 216 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: me a better football player because it was a run 217 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and shoot. Not a lot of teams were doing like 218 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: the spread offense. But when I was able to go 219 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: into Houston and like start to play in that capacity, 220 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: he already had a high level of passing the acumen 221 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: because he was able to do it all the time 222 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: in the Canadian Football League. But incredible human. I've known 223 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: him for a long time. 224 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 5: So so Matt, let's talk about your football career a 225 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 5: little bit. All right, So you did you were never 226 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 5: a starter in college? 227 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: Never started. Pete Carroll really screwed me, just kidding, that's crazy. 228 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you're behind greats. You took a shot at 229 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 6: him right there. No, no, I was. It might be 230 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 6: a truth sy, but it was just like, so you 231 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 6: never started, I didn't know. I think it's amazing. 232 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: I think that is a part of your journey that 233 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 5: more people need to hear about that. Like, this guy 234 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 5: never started in college, but he still went to the 235 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 5: NFL and played fourteen years. Not allly that, but I 236 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 5: want to know your emotions about the two thousand and 237 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 5: eight season, which, in my opinion, probably changed your whole life. 238 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: It did, all right, Tom Brady gets hurt in week 239 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 5: one he turns as acl where now we have the 240 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 5: you can't go low on quarterbacks anymore? He created that rule. 241 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 5: But what was born out at is Matt Castle. Right, 242 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: all right, you came in. You guys won eleven and 243 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: five tie for the best wreck in the AMC East, 244 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 5: but did not make the playoffs. 245 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Oh, it's so hurt some kind of way. 246 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: You two for three thousand, six hundred and ninety three yards, 247 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 5: twenty one uds and ten and five as have started, 248 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: and you guys didn't make the playoffs. 249 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: How do you not make the playoffs with that record? 250 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: You know, it was like the first time in since 251 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: the merger or something like that of the team when 252 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 3: I went eleven and five and it was of course 253 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: they say ten and five and I'm like ready went down. 254 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: The score was zero to zero in the first quarter. Oh, 255 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: they don't give you that. They don't give you you know. 256 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 3: Like if you leave the game as a starter adventure, 257 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: you don't get the credit for the win. 258 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: If you get it like that the guy that comes in. 259 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: They didn't give me this, they gave him the win. 260 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: I was like, this's messed up. Yeah we had it 261 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: was zero zero. When he left the game, I was like, 262 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: what's going on here? No, but uh, that season was 263 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: crazy because again I mean going back to even college. 264 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: You know, I was behind Carson Palmer, Matt Liner and 265 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: I battled it out. But it was going in my 266 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 3: junior year and back then you transfer, you guys said 267 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: out a here. I kind of was in that catch 268 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: twenty two. So I even played some tight end. I 269 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: was on special team. I was in the wedge getting 270 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: blown up. 271 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: By the way. 272 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: I respect the hell out of everybody that plays special team. 273 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 3: I got a different perspective. Come on, give me something, 274 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 3: Come on. 275 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: Up right there. 276 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: Because Dud never played special teams. He's never played. 277 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: That's when you know you're in alpha. You're too precious 278 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: to be on special teams. And I wasn't that. 279 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks were playing special teams and you're not. 280 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 281 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: And that was out of just necessity. I want to 282 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: get on the field. And so I'm sitting there, I'm like, 283 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: what am I doing right now? I'm sitting there with 284 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: my hand in the three point stance. You know, Pete 285 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 3: comes up midway through my junior year and goes, hey, yes, uh, 286 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 3: we we've got we've got. 287 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: A few injuries. Could you help us out of tight end? 288 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 3: And I played a little bit earlier in my career, 289 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 3: so I did that and uh, And then my senior year, 290 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: I went back and said, coach, I just want to 291 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: end how I came in, I'm done with this. Ricky Manning. 292 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: I came over and separated my AC joint and special teams. 293 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: But I was like, what am I doing right? But nonetheless, 294 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: I just said I'm gonna give myself a shot. You know, 295 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: we had a lot of great players coming out, you 296 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: guys did, and so I knew that there was going 297 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: to be eyes on that pro day basically, and I said, 298 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: this was an opportunity for me to go out and 299 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: maybe showcase my skill a little bit. And at that 300 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: point I got a lot of interest. So I got calls, 301 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: but it was all free agency. And then the next 302 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: thing I know, on Draft Day, I got a phone 303 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 3: call from New England Patriots and it's Bill Belichick saying 304 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 3: they're going to take me next on the draft. I 305 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 3: thought he was messing with me. I was like, who's 306 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: messing with me right now? And it was Bill and 307 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: He's like, no, this is Bill Belichie. And so that 308 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: got my foot in the door and I'm forever grateful 309 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: for that. And then I had to go earn it, 310 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 3: you know, and getting the preseason, get that opportunity in preseason, 311 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: work my way up the depth chart and became the 312 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: number two quarterback for Brady for the second third season. 313 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Flutie was there our first season, so he was really 314 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: the primary, but they gave me an opportunity to play late. 315 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: So then it was the waiting game. You know. 316 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: Brady was one of those dude, he was an iron 317 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: man and all that stuff. And then I'll never forget 318 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: to play. I was watching it and he threw a 319 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: ball down the sideline to Randy Raandy I think caught it, 320 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: but then fumbled the ball. So we're I'm watching this 321 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: all transpire, and next thing I know, this hush was 322 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: over the crowd and I look back and there's Brady 323 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: on the ground. Yeah, and I was like, he's probably 324 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: going to get up, you know, because he always would 325 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: get up eventually, but this time he didn't. And then 326 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: he's hobbling off the field, and all of a sudden, 327 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 3: you know, you start to hear that. 328 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: They finally get him off the field. 329 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 3: Tom goes in back in the locker room and Bill 330 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: goes Castle, grab your helmet, You're going in. 331 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: That's it, like, not like, hey, are you ready for this? 332 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: So I'm firing the ball a side, and of course 333 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: they punt it down to the one yard line. We're 334 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: backed up, and I'm like, man, this is my opportunity, right, 335 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: I've been waiting for Everybody always says you're a play 336 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: away here there as the backup quarterback, But realistically it 337 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: took a long time, right, So I'm sitting there for 338 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: what eight years before this opportunity came. But I was 339 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: ready for it. But at the same time, you just 340 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: got your nerves and all that. And the first throw 341 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: is interesting. We tried to run the ball, get nothing. 342 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: We called like a little pop pass and Patrick's retained savvy. 343 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 3: Vett was anticipating something coming out quick. He jumps inside. 344 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 3: Randy Will typical Randy just smart player, man. He sees 345 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 3: it and he just takes off and runs a go 346 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: down the sideline and I come up off off the 347 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: play action expecting the skinny post, hands up, goes up 348 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: and I. 349 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Tossed it down there. Somehow I hit it. 350 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: I was like blacked out at that point. He catches it, 351 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: go for fifty five yards and gets tackled, but we 352 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: go down score and at that point I was like, 353 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we're going And from there it was just 354 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: the evolution of the season. 355 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I think that they held me back a little bit 356 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: early on. 357 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: I threw a lot of slip screens, a lot of 358 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: slip screens for confidence those first few games, and then 359 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: they're like, look, Castle does a play, but we got 360 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: to open it up. 361 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: And at that point we started a roll. 362 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: After that eight season, I know how to make the playoffs. 363 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: Did it make up for it? Like what you did 364 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 4: the next season? Because the contract that you signed. 365 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: Well, that sound pretty good. I'm not gonna lie, I mean. 366 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: And at the same time it was something that I 367 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 3: was just kind of fighting for survival. At that point, 368 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: I was in my fourth year, my rookie deal. Yeah, 369 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: I didn't have any film to go off of. And 370 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 3: then that year hit and I was able to prove 371 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: not only to myself but the other organizations that hey, 372 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: I belong here. I always believed in myself, but until 373 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: you actually go out and do it, Yeah, it's a 374 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: whole different, you know, mindset. And so then New England, 375 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: because there's some complications with Brady, they franchised me. So 376 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: I was like, well, I'm signing this immediately, no doubt. 377 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 378 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: And then the next thing way more and I was 379 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: just like, wow, this is crazy. But I didn't think 380 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: I was actually going to be there. I was like, 381 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: it's just a matter of time, and then sure enough 382 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 3: I got traded to Kansas City. Nice part for me, 383 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: I had a bargaining chip in my back pocket to 384 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: go set up my next contract. So it changed my 385 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: life and the outlook of where I was as a 386 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: football player forever. 387 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 388 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it was there's something to 389 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: be said about having some financial stability, but I never 390 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: looked at it that way. It was just one of 391 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: those things that I went out and performed when I 392 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: needed to perform and was rewarded with the contract and 393 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: very very lucky for it. 394 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and we'll be 395 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: back in a minute. 396 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: You know. 397 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 5: You bring up a couple of different things I think 398 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: that are very intriguing. First of all, Timing, Timing is 399 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: everything everything, especially for you and your case where we're 400 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: talking about. 401 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: But then also maybe go back to you. 402 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 5: You talked about mentality, your mentality of not being a starter, 403 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: doing whatever it takes to get on the field in college. 404 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: How did those type things, those situations maybe prepare you 405 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: mentally or emotionally for what you were going to have 406 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 5: to deal with as far as your NFL career, where 407 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 5: you went from being in somebody else's organization so now 408 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 5: you're the face of one organization. 409 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because I think all those 410 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 3: different moments throughout college that you get told no, or 411 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: we're going to go with this guy. You got to 412 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: go through that mental anguish, you know, and deal with 413 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: it and how you respond. And we've all been around 414 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: players that they get they go into their shell, they 415 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: get pissed off, they start pointing the finger, they do this. 416 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: But my mentality was always like, I'm going to be 417 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: the best team that can be. I'm going to go 418 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 3: out work as hard as I can do. And even 419 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: the sense that I even went out and tried out 420 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 3: for the NFL, it was funny because I go into 421 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: that pro day and they're like. 422 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: Who are you. 423 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: I know I shouldn't be here, but I'm gonna try 424 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: out nonetheless. And so I just always had this chip 425 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 3: on my shoulder a little bit, and I took my punches. 426 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: And then I think it was a breath of fresh 427 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: air when. 428 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 3: I got a call from Bill Belichick and they said, 429 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: we're going to give you an opportunity, because that's all 430 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: I was looking for. And sometimes it's just that opportunity 431 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: of somebody believing in you, even though you might not 432 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: believe in yourself, to give you that opportunity. And so 433 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: I had a lot of confidence once that took place, 434 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: and it just pushed me even harder. 435 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: And then throughout the time. I mean, it's a masterclass. 436 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: You learned behind Tom Brady how to be a professional, 437 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: how to work, how to interact with your teammates, and 438 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: do all that because not everybody you treat the same. 439 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: As a quarterback Randy Moss, You're gonna pull talk to 440 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: him at his locker. You're not gonna show him up 441 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 3: on the field because Randy might get pissed, right, Wes Welger. 442 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: You could yell at him, you could dog custom do 443 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: all that. He's gonna keep running back a labrador puppy 444 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: and tell me what next. 445 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: Right. 446 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: So it was just all those different interactions and the 447 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: different people that had had an impact and influenced me. 448 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 3: And then when you get that opportunity, I'm not going 449 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: to say it's not stressful, but the more that I 450 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: could put out of my mind like it's make or 451 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: break and just concentrate on the process and be process oriented. 452 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: And so every day I just was like, look, I 453 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: know everybody's gonna be talking about Brady going down. We 454 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: were eighteen and one the year before. I mean, the 455 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: media coverage was out out of control. But I just said, 456 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to go and do my routine. 457 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: And that was a big, big byproduct I think of 458 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: staying the course. 459 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: Talk about you making your first Pro Bowl. What's the 460 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 4: journey that you had? You know, how cool was it 461 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: when you got that first phone call? 462 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. Man. 463 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: I was sitting there and you know, my journey is 464 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 3: unique and all that stuff. But when you get put 465 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 3: into that caliber player, Yeah, and you get recognized amongst 466 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 3: your peers, there's something so self fulfilling and just like, hey, 467 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 3: you've been You've been through this grind you've gone through 468 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: all this different adversity, but then when you get recognized 469 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: among your peers. 470 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: I think that's one. 471 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: Of those things that you take a lot of pride 472 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: in is when you're sitting there going, okay, they they 473 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: see you, right. You might believe it yourself, but until 474 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: you actually get that call and they tell you, hey, 475 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: you made the Pro Bowl and you're like, man, there's 476 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: something special about that. 477 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: And then to go out, you know, Hawaiian. 478 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 3: I know everything's changed now, but to go out to 479 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: Hawaiian and be sitting there and talk to Ray Lewis 480 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: and Ed Reid and all these guys that you have 481 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: these relationships with now, and it's just that brotherhood is 482 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: so uniquely special. 483 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: Do you like the new setup with the flag football 484 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: versus going out to Hawaii? 485 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: I loved Hawaii. 486 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 2: Hawaii was dope, amazing, right, I agree, always loved. 487 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: I love you always. 488 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 3: You always had that one dude like Adrian Peterson who 489 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: is a teammate of mine in Minnesota, but he was 490 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: there that year on the opposite side. 491 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: He's trying to run through dude's faces. 492 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 3: And you know, there's a lot of dudes out there 493 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: like we had Matt Light one of my offensive tackles 494 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: in New England. He's sitting there and him and Suggs 495 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: are like doing a deal at the bar, like, hey, 496 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 3: if you don't rush hard, I'm a block you hard. 497 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: At one play, Matt Light's doing this well, Sugs is 498 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: doing like this. You know, it's all temperament of how 499 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: you're gonna go. But it's hard to play in that game, 500 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: and not just from a health standpoint and not go. 501 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: But Adrian was at a different level, right he's going. 502 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 3: So it's just an interesting game too, because practice is 503 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 3: a joke, right. You go out there, try to learn 504 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: a new offense or whatever you're doing defensively, You can't splitz, 505 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: you can't do this at in the other and then 506 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: you're having fun all week long and you're enjoying the moment. 507 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: So I think the game now is more set for 508 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: what it's really about is to have fun versus putting 509 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: maybe the guy's bodies in jeopardy butt. 510 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: In your career, if there's any one thing that you 511 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 5: could go back and change, what would it be. 512 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: Gosh, that's a great question. 513 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 3: When I was with Minnesota my second year and I 514 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: finished up that season, I had a bad injury. I 515 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: was in the third game of the year, broke my foot, 516 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: and Teddy Bridgewater was there, and you know, I had 517 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: these conversations with my agent and they're like, look, Teddy's 518 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: probably going to be the guy there and we should 519 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: look for a trade. I love Minnesota, I love my teammates, 520 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: I love all that. And sometimes you're sitting there listening 521 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 3: to the advice and going, well, I can go get 522 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: another bag and do that and maybe go compete. But 523 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: I knew that there was something probably a little bit off, 524 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 3: because I probably should have stayed in Minnesota, did my rehab, 525 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: been there for Teddy or whatever the case might be, 526 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: but still be in that situation that I was comfortable with, 527 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: versus going to another organization, rehabbing with a new organization 528 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: while trying to compete for a job. You talk about instability, right, 529 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: You're going from ten years with only three organizations and 530 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: you get traded to Buffalo and Dallas in the same year. 531 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: And looking back, if I was smart about it, I 532 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: probably would have stayed in Minnesota and done my rehab 533 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: and just I know I was still in a backup position. 534 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 3: But I think I put my myself in a more 535 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: difficult situation when I went to Buffalo still while trying 536 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 3: to rehab with a new organization. 537 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: So I look back, I say, that's something that I wish. 538 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: I would have probably stayed in Minnesota longer and tried 539 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: to push the envelope and try to go out and 540 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 3: compete right away after the foot injury. 541 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Now, I've never has never happened to your eye, what's 542 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: it like. 543 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: To be traded? You've never been training to see? That's awesome. 544 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I just want to know, like, because. 545 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: You've been traded multiple times. 546 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So when I was in New England, there was 547 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 3: an anticipation right, like they franchised. Let's be honest, Tom 548 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Brady's going to come back at some point. So I 549 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: understood the dynamics there. Now, when I was in Minnesota 550 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I knew that Teddy was there, 551 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: and then kind of we put agent wise, we've kind 552 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: of pushed the envelope a little bit to get me 553 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: into a situation where I might be a starter again. 554 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: But then I go to Buffalo and we're in week 555 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: two and so I'm sitting there and I go out 556 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: to practice. 557 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: I get back in from practice. 558 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: Next thing I know, my phone's got like ten call 559 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 3: miscalls from my agent and I'm sitting there, going, what 560 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: the hell is going on here? Get in my car 561 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: call him and he's like, Matt, you're sitting down. I 562 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: was like, yes, what are you calling me for? He's like, 563 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: you just got traded to the Dallas Cowboys. Well that's 564 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 3: a trip when you're in the middle of a season. Yeah, 565 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: my wife's thirty four weeks pregnant, my kids just started 566 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: schooling Buffalo. I just rantedto you know, six month lease 567 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: on the house, all that stuff, and you're like, hey, 568 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: you're on the first thing smoking tomorrow to go to Dallas, 569 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 3: and you're like, you got to figure out now, relocate 570 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 3: the family, get doctors, do all that. There's just so 571 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: much from a lifestyle standpoint that is just overwhelming. We 572 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: lived in a hotel for two and a half weeks, 573 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: finally found a place. All of a sudden they told 574 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: me I'm going to start. Like it was three weeks 575 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to learn a new playbook riding away 576 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: and then they told me I'm going to start next week. 577 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 3: My wife gives birth to our fourth kid. I mean, 578 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: it was just a lot it's a lot to take in. 579 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: People don't realize they know, like they see this figure 580 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: on the field, they don't know all the chaos going 581 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: on outside the field. So yeah, chaotic is the best 582 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: way to describe it. Not even organized chaos, organized chaos. 583 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 3: It's just it's wild. All right, we got time. I'm 584 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: gonna asks this last one. 585 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: We want to do a. 586 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Quick word association. 587 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: Oh boy, So I'm gonna give you a name, yep, 588 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: and just say the first word that comes to mind. 589 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: All right, Rick Ryan, I just get one word. How 590 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: do you brash? Tom Brady? Tom Brady fashionable, no doubt, 591 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: isn't it. He is like he's always got cologna. You know, 592 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: it was good in practice. I mean every day he's 593 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: coming in the meetings and I'm like, what did you 594 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: put on today? He just had to have it going on. 595 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Sorry, Pete. Charismatic, all right, Matt Stepford tough. That 596 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: dude is one of the toughest guys I've ever played 597 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: I've seen. 598 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, the dude had a broken back when 599 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: I was there, and right, and I mean talented, great leader, 600 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: all those things. But they told him to shut it down, 601 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: and he's like no, I'm gonna play. I couldn't even 602 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: practice during the week, but go out and ball on Sundays. 603 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: I mean, tough as nails. Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick, Let's see, 604 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 3: let's see bell Man genius with that. Okay, Derrick Henry Beast. 605 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: I'll never forget his rookie year. 606 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: He comes in. You know, they lined the rookies up. 607 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: I knew who Derek was, but all of a sudden, 608 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 3: I was like, who is that? And They're like, that's 609 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 3: therek here. I thought he was a d n I 610 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: mean he's he is a massive dude, and I mean 611 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 3: he's put together, and he did. 612 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Not look like a running back. 613 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 5: The funny thing is that the first time I met 614 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: Derek Hemray, he was a true freshman at the University 615 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 5: of Alabama. I'm in the locker room and I see 616 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 5: me and Mark Ingram were there visiting from New Orleans 617 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 5: and Mark's over there with the running backs, and I'm like, dude, 618 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 5: who is that. 619 00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: Lie back. 620 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: Six inches taller than everybody else over there? 621 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: How is he over there? 622 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 5: I was like, Mark's like, dude, he's some freshman rout 623 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 5: from Florida's supposed to be legit. 624 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 7: I'm like he's supposed to be. Like, this guy's a 625 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 7: massive like he's losing massively. He doesn't make biological sense. Yes, 626 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 7: like what they've produced with that young man. Brian Dable, 627 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 7: Brian daball emotional. 628 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love love Brian day Ball and but he's 629 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 3: definitely he wears his emotions on sleeve and let you 630 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: know how he feels. 631 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that too. Yeah. 632 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 5: I talked to him about gaining weight one time and 633 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: he literally showed me a picture from college when he 634 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: was ripped up playing football at Alabama like that. Yeah, 635 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 5: he was like, well you should see this, and he 636 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 5: pulled it up with it's phone, Like he. 637 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: Has this just raping all the time. 638 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: The best person watch like the EBB and flow of 639 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: his weight gain and weight loss, Like throughout the course 640 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: of the season, we're just steady growth horizontally and then 641 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: as soon as you get to off season comes in, 642 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: he's shredded up. 643 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: But then it's just like. 644 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: Right back, this is a real thing, a real thing. 645 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 5: Adrian Peterson, Oh man, gosh, freak man. 646 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 3: He is an absolute freak of nature, that dude. And 647 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: the way he worked too. Man, I'll never forget it 648 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 3: was like, uh, we had a preseason game and he 649 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: wasn't playing in it hot a hot day up there 650 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: in Minnesota, which it doesn't get too hot, but it 651 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: was it was human come out from meetings. He's out 652 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: there running gassers by himself with a chew in his mouth. 653 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: By the way, for sure, good country. But I'll tell 654 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: you what, that dude would run circles around people. But 655 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: great teammate, go to human but just uh, he was 656 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: a freaking nature man. 657 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: You ever shake his hand? 658 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. The first time I came out, I 659 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: was like, I think he just broke my hand. And 660 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 3: then then you got it like blow up when he's 661 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 3: because when he meets you and he just got to 662 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: granted he's not doing it like it's just what he does. 663 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: He doesn't love you every minute of it. I was like, man, 664 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: if you if you're not ready for it, oh it, 665 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: kiss you off. 666 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: Oh o god. Yeah, yeah, he's real. L Rabel. I 667 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 3: love Rabes but arrogant. 668 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 669 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what he believes in himself. He lives 670 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: in the process, but I love it. He does not 671 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: hold any punches. You know exactly where you stand, there's 672 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 3: no gray area. 673 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: It's black or white. 674 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: And that's what I've always loved about Braves as a player, 675 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 3: as a coach on it. 676 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: He's got the same mentality. I respect Tony Romo. I 677 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: like Tony. He loves him some Tony. Uh, no doubt 678 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: about it. He loves he loves him some Tony. Let's see. 679 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: Uh. I don't even know a great word word association. 680 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: What's one that you could say, loves some some Tony. 681 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 3: What's a good word that you say. 682 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: I think that's it, Yeah, I think yeah, just wrap 683 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: that up into a ball. 684 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Tony loves him Tony love it. 685 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 4: Hey man, we appreciate you coming on. Look at one 686 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: of these camera. I think it's that camera right there. 687 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: How can people listen to your podcast? 688 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: I guess you can go on any podcast where you 689 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 3: get your normal podcasts NFL iHeartRadio, lots to say, Bobby Bums, 690 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: Matt Castle, please subscribe. 691 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: That'd be awesome. There it is. 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