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Speaker 1: Back here on radio road the NFL Combine. We're talking Draft, Colts, NFL,

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Speaker 1: going around the league a little bit. JJ Stankovitz, I'm

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor joining us now. Trevor Sakema, lead NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: analyst for Pro Football Focus. You're one of our favorites,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Welcome back to Indianapolis. I worry, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's great to do a show with you guys in person.

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like the chemistry and the vibes

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Speaker 2: are always better when you get to do these kinds

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Speaker 2: of shows with people in person. That's Look, it's a

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Speaker 2: good vibe show. That's why I'm here, you know. So, No,

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Speaker 2: it's that's why Indianapolis is one of my favorite events.

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Speaker 3: So it's great to be back.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's not beat around the bush. You've got

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Speaker 1: your latest mock draft up. I saw it last night

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Speaker 1: knowing that you were going to stop by here. You've

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Speaker 1: got the Colts picking terry On Arnold, cornerback out of Alabama.

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Speaker 1: You're not the only one I've seen in terms of

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Speaker 1: mock drafting that player to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Tell me why you know Arnold is a fantastic overall prospect.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he just brings so much athletic ability to

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Speaker 2: the position, and him and his teammate Kulid mc intry,

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Speaker 2: they were probably the best cornerback duo in the country

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Speaker 2: this past season. And mckinstrey on the other side, you know,

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Speaker 2: he had a lot of foresting completions the year before,

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Speaker 2: and so when people went into this year, they went, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're not gonna throw it at mckinstrey as much because

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Speaker 2: we know he's really great when it comes to defending things,

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Speaker 2: especially impressed man coverage.

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Speaker 3: So let's go after the other guy.

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Speaker 2: Guy's a little bit younger, Red Chir sophomore Taryon Arnold

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Speaker 2: doesn't have nearly as much experience.

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Speaker 3: They paid the price for that. You know, he had

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Speaker 3: five interceptions this year.

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Speaker 2: He had a lot of foresting completions himself, and he

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Speaker 2: was able to really showcase his abilities very early on.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't always happen with those Red Cheir sophomores, but

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Speaker 2: because of that situation, in that context, they threw the

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Speaker 2: showcase a lot of that stuff. Sometimes this dude is

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Speaker 2: moving so well that it's like he's running the routes

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Speaker 2: for the receivers. Now, he's a little bit boom and

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Speaker 2: busted about what he does. He likes to take chances,

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Speaker 2: he likes to go for those interceptions, those takeaways, which

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Speaker 2: some coaches really love, right, They love that mentality and

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Speaker 2: they say, Okay, you do it a little too often,

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Speaker 2: let's tone it down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I love where you're coming from. I love where

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Speaker 3: your head's at.

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Speaker 2: You're going for those best, those biggest plays, And I

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Speaker 2: just feel like when you look at Arnold, he is

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Speaker 2: not a perfect prospect yet, but all of what you

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Speaker 2: would want from a CB one caliber of a player

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Speaker 2: is there from him. And that's why I think that

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Speaker 2: he's definitely gonna end up being a first round picks.

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Speaker 4: More, let's talk about Brock Bowers, because you had him

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Speaker 4: going eighteen to the Bengals to your latest mock. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think here there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: off falls that you know, the cults are gonna be

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Speaker 5: What about Bauer's skill set.

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Speaker 4: Like we just talked about this Daniel Jarmia that he's

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Speaker 4: a top ten player but probably will go in that

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Speaker 4: what about him as a prospect, and maybe the history

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Speaker 4: think he could slip down to eighteen with the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's one of the best tight ends

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Speaker 2: As you guys mentioned, you know, the rookie wage scale

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Speaker 2: and I think that the the element of brock Bauer

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna get those official measure measurables here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Because George's got him listed at six foot four, two

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Speaker 3: Okay, we know that schools sometimes like to, you know,

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Speaker 2: So I wonder if he's gonna show up he's a

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Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, those would both be bottom

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Speaker 2: So as long as a team like Indianapolis would understand, hey,

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Speaker 3: All that stuff is still there for him. But those

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Speaker 3: are just the conversations that you have when you talk

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Speaker 4: I want to keep going down this road with tight

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Speaker 4: him was David and Joku. Who wow, I believe that's

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Speaker 4: true because TJ. Hockinson was traded. You know, I'm like

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Speaker 2: I think it's just because you know, there's just so

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Speaker 2: And then you know there's other things that go into

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Speaker 2: that versatility is very alluring, but you still got to

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Speaker 2: sometimes is how you get to these situations where these

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Speaker 2: tight ends aren't signing long term.

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Speaker 1: Kima, lead NFL draft analysts from Pro Football Focus here

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Speaker 1: with us on Radio Row with JJ Stank. If it's

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, I'm gonna go big picture, talk to

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Speaker 1: me about the first round. What's the discrepancy, especially at

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Speaker 1: the top offense versus defense. Where's the strength of this

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Speaker 2: I think the difference between offense and defense, especially in

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Speaker 3: Then I even thought they were gonna showlast year.

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Speaker 1: Lay that optimism on loop.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That should be like the voicemail at the complex if

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Speaker 4: Play that part of the podcast too perfect?

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Speaker 1: Man, How many combines is this for you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's basically what it is this week.

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Speaker 5: Let's go you are, man, It's true. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Gain you are the man leading the combine.

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Speaker 5: And great hair too.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: You know, it makes some thing.

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Speaker 5: You know your stuff, Man.

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Speaker 5: Man, enjoy the rest of your time at Indian.

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Speaker 6: Of course, guys, you as well we are back here

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Speaker 3: You know me, I've been doing that for you.

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Speaker 6: You're aware, Matt.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Obviously with the mock drafts and everything coming up, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I'll take which Alabama player? So I want

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Speaker 5: to take Tyryan Arnold. I'll take Tyran Arnold, the corner

438
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Speaker 5: from Alabama, over Dallas Turner, his teammate. I think Arnold

439
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Speaker 5: is exactly what the NFL wants at the corner position.

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Speaker 5: To me, he's like a bigger Devin Witherspoon. He's so

441
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Speaker 5: physical with the line of scrimmage. He's got speed to

442
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Speaker 5: turn and run with guys, and he you know, yes,

443
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Speaker 5: he only had I think he had five picks the

444
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Speaker 5: last two years. That's not a lot. We have four

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Speaker 5: this past year and no one threw at him. So

446
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Speaker 5: with the opportunities he had to make plays, he did it.

447
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Speaker 5: And he's physical, he's fast, he's feisty. I don't know

448
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Speaker 5: what more you can want on corner. Well, let's look

449
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Speaker 5: for it.

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Speaker 6: Hey, if you follow him on line, this is the

451
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Speaker 6: way to do it. It's real simple. It's at NFL

452
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Speaker 6: Draft Scout and that's Matt Miller. I'm staying defense, Matt,

453
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Speaker 6: Matt Taylor, you can stay on offense. The big fella

454
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Speaker 6: from Texas, the Byron Iron Murphy, Byron Murphy. Yeah, I've

455
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Speaker 6: read a lot about him. I've heard a lot about

456
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Speaker 6: Byron Murphy and stuff. This is a guy that you

457
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Speaker 6: also have going up there high but can be a

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Speaker 6: day one starter and difference making.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, we're going to see him test exceptionally

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Speaker 5: well here this week. I mean, if he ran a

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Speaker 5: four to seven five at turning to ten pounds, I

462
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Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised really that quick. But then it's the

463
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Speaker 5: raw strength, I mean. And the great thing is this

464
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Speaker 5: year with Texas, we got to see them play Alabama,

465
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Speaker 5: which is pretty good upfront. We got simply Washington, which

466
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Speaker 5: won the Joe Moore Awards, So you getting to see

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Speaker 5: Byron Murphy against NFL caliber offensive lineman and he dominated everyone.

468
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Speaker 5: So it's not trouble on the stat sheet because they

469
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Speaker 5: play a three to three five front, so he's always

470
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Speaker 5: head up on the tackle. But I mean, he's just

471
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Speaker 5: disruptive and when he's put in a gap, I think

472
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Speaker 5: he's gonna just take off. You know, it's going to be.

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Speaker 5: My comparison for him was Justin Matabouquet, who you know,

474
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Speaker 5: for the Baltimore Ravens, had a great all Pro type season.

475
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Speaker 5: I think Murphy can be that same guy. Not the

476
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Speaker 5: biggest guy, he's six one three ten pounds, but the

477
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Speaker 5: quickness and the strength are are supernatural. Matt.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking to guys all week about you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Baller there towards the end of the season for

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Speaker 1: the Colts said for next year, with Anthony Richardson getting back,

481
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor coming back healthy, we need to be more

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Speaker 1: explosive on offense. We know about the top guys at

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Speaker 1: wide receiver at the beginning of the draft, like the

484
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Speaker 1: Harrisons and the Neighbors, but who were some guys that

485
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Speaker 1: might be available at the wide receiver position in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the draft that could be options.

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Speaker 5: For the Colt the middle of the first round, or okay,

488
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Speaker 5: Brian Thomas Junior from LSU. It's like we are all

489
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Speaker 5: rightly in love of Maligne. The guy across from him

490
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Speaker 5: actually led the nation in touchdowns with seventeen and he's

491
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Speaker 5: six foot four. He's a vertical stretch weapon. He's great

492
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Speaker 5: in the red zone. You know, some of Jayden and

493
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Speaker 5: Daniels the quarterbacks success is because you have a Brian

494
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Speaker 5: Thomas out there where you're like, you know what alls fails?

495
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Speaker 5: I got I have him and so yeah, explosive, but

496
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Speaker 5: also someone that can stretch the field. Michael Pittman Jr.

497
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Speaker 5: One of my favorite players. You know, allow him to

498
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Speaker 5: do more of that aj Brown dirty work underneath and

499
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Speaker 5: have somebody that can stretch the field with Josh Downs

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Speaker 5: in there as well.

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Speaker 1: Do you think of the Colts bring back Michael Pittman Junior.

502
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Speaker 1: They're still in line to add somebody in this top

503
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Speaker 1: end of the draft or second third round at receiver.

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Speaker 1: I would, I really would.

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Speaker 5: I think you look at Cincinnati and the success that

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Speaker 5: they've had with three great wide receivers. Look at what

507
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Speaker 5: the Niners just did, you know with Brock Purdy having

508
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Speaker 5: three great options, one at the tight end position, and

509
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Speaker 5: you're able to be a point guard back there. And

510
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Speaker 5: obviously Anthony's game is very different than that. But I

511
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Speaker 5: think you look in the NFL when young quarterbacks struggles

512
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Speaker 5: because they don't have those weapons, especially early on. And

513
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Speaker 5: eventually you can get to the Pat Mahomes level where

514
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Speaker 5: you don't need a thousand yard receiver anymore, but early

515
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Speaker 5: on it's great to have, you know, a little bit

516
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Speaker 5: of a support system. So even if it's not in

517
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Speaker 5: the first round, it is a deep enough wide receiver

518
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Speaker 5: class that in a round two, round three you can

519
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Speaker 5: get someone that can crack that top three wide receiver room.

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Speaker 6: Matt Miller from ESPN right there. Depth, depth value, that

521
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Speaker 6: whole thing with with comes on drafts. What is the

522
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Speaker 6: most depth position in this draft? And where I'm saying

523
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Speaker 6: is like quarterback wise talking, we know the five six

524
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Speaker 6: names that are up there at the top. Yeah, in

525
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Speaker 6: your eyes, the third to fourth, the fifth round picks.

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Speaker 6: And we've seen these guys become successful here and there

527
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Speaker 6: throughout their career. Are there those quarterbacks available? This striy Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think Spencer Rattler from South Carolina?

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Speaker 3: Where does he go?

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Speaker 5: Third round? So right in that range you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: You know, he had a better career South Carolina than

532
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people expected, or realized or

533
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Speaker 5: want to give credit to. Because at Oklahoma, geniuses like

534
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Speaker 5: myself said he's going to be a first round pick.

535
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Speaker 5: Obviously he gets bitch for Kayleb Williams in the Texas game,

536
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Speaker 5: that whole world changes. But at South Carolina he had

537
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Speaker 5: a nice re bound to his career, and I do

538
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Speaker 5: think now good Senior Bowl week, he's toolsy, he's gonna

539
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Speaker 5: he's gonna fit in that third round. I think somebody

540
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Speaker 5: else buying him as a quote unquote developmental type starter.

541
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Speaker 5: But to your first question, it's a deep wide receiver class.

542
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Speaker 5: And I feel like we say that every year. People

543
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 5: get tired of hearing it, but it's true. It's you know,

544
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 5: it's fifteen deep a wide receiver. Guys who gonna be.

545
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Speaker 6: Playmakers Day one starter, round four, in round four, day

546
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Speaker 6: one starter, I'm asking, I'm just a yeah.

547
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Speaker 5: In round four wide receiver. I wasn't ready for Round

548
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Speaker 5: four I'm trying to think how about it. Also, I

549
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Speaker 5: don't want to disrespect anyone YEA third round one starters

550
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Speaker 5: in YE wide receivers Ricky Piersolf in Florida Javon Baker

551
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Speaker 5: from Central Florida both can be impact players. I don't

552
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Speaker 5: want to say they might be round three, round four.

553
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Speaker 5: We'll see where the run happens. If eight go in

554
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Speaker 5: the first round, those guys become late second round picks

555
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Speaker 5: pretty quickly. So but it is it is such a

556
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Speaker 5: deep class that Xavier to get from South Carolina, the

557
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Speaker 5: guys Spencer Route ever throwing two, Yeah, probably gonna be

558
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Speaker 5: a third round pick. He can be a starter in

559
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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What's the best best case scenario for the Cold Is

561
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Speaker 1: it a run on offensive players pushing back some of

562
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Speaker 1: the premium defensive spots like corner or edge, Or is

563
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Speaker 1: it let's go after some of these wide receivers. Maybe

564
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Speaker 1: let's go after a brock Bauers. To really compliment in

565
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Speaker 1: a sophomore year, Anthony Richards.

566
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Speaker 5: We don't know how much Chris Ballard loves us in

567
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Speaker 5: the media, So if I were him, I would say

568
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Speaker 5: I would be telling every Adam Schefter and in and

569
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Speaker 5: Rapp report that there is five quarterbacks in this draft.

570
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Speaker 5: You go pretty early, right, you guys want five quarterbacks

571
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Speaker 5: to come off the board in the top fourteen. That's

572
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Speaker 5: going to push a Brian Thomas to you. It's going

573
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Speaker 5: to push a Dallas Turner to you. So I think

574
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Speaker 5: that's what you're hoping for, is a run at quarterback

575
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Speaker 5: and then you know, I mean the other like premium positions.

576
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Speaker 5: You can make an argument for the Colts to draft

577
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Speaker 5: every one of them, whether it's wide receiver, pass rusher, corner,

578
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Speaker 5: defensive tackle, defensive tackle, maybe even you know, even offensive

579
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Speaker 5: tackle is something that I don't think you completely can

580
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Speaker 5: say no, No, we're great there, We're great at all

581
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Speaker 5: of the Tacklet's not worry about it. So it's a

582
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Speaker 5: good draft to be at fifteen.

583
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Speaker 6: Hey man, last year Anthony Richardson coming out, we had

584
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Speaker 6: another you know, edscribe, who's going to go one between

585
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Speaker 6: you know, Bryce and CJ's up there and Anthony. Where

586
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Speaker 6: did you have Anthony Richardson in the small sample size

587
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Speaker 6: you saw this year? Yeah, of his NFL plays, it

588
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Speaker 6: fit along right side by side. Yeah, I had him

589
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Speaker 6: as he was my third quarterback. I had Bryce and CJ.

590
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Speaker 6: Tide and then I had Anthony. He was a top

591
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Speaker 6: ten player for me.

592
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the small sample side, I mean early he came

593
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Speaker 5: out the gate and you're like, dang, this is this

594
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Speaker 5: is nice, this is different. I think, you know, the

595
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Speaker 5: key is he's got to protect himself, you know, and

596
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Speaker 5: that's the thing you love in his game is also

597
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 5: the thing that you worry about a little bit. The athleticism,

598
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 5: the running ability, you know. I think first first four

599
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 5: weeks you're thinking this is the rookie of the year,

600
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Speaker 5: Like he's you know, like Cam Newton all over again.

601
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Speaker 5: So it's just learning how to protect himself is the key.

602
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Speaker 5: But you know, early all the returns look great and

603
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Speaker 5: I can't I can't wait to see him and Jonathan Taylor.

604
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Speaker 3: Yeah in the back fine, other you know, no question

605
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Speaker 3: about it.

606
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Speaker 1: You're preaching the choir on that one as it relates

607
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Speaker 1: to the Colts Matt final one from me. I know

608
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Speaker 1: you got to run, but how much is it concerning

609
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Speaker 1: that you're not seeing the quarterbacks throw. Hell, you're not

610
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Speaker 1: even seeing some of the white receivers show up. The

611
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Speaker 1: coaches aren't coming. Does that frustrate you as a guy

612
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Speaker 1: that you know, really buys into all the different puzzles

613
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Speaker 1: of the draft process.

614
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Speaker 5: Not really. And if I worked for a team instead

615
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Speaker 5: of for ESPN, I would love the fact that these

616
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Speaker 5: coaches don't come here, like please give me, Like, I

617
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: want every opportunity to see these players, you know, to

618
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Speaker 5: to watch them work out, to get to know them

619
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Speaker 5: as people, to see how they interact with their you know,

620
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Speaker 5: not just with the other wide receivers or quarterbacks. I

621
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Speaker 5: want to see how you interact with the guys on

622
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Speaker 5: the field. How do you hant you know, how do

623
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Speaker 5: you treat the support stife?

624
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Speaker 1: You know?

625
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Speaker 5: I want to see that between reps. Right, So, like

626
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,239
Speaker 5: this idea of like, you know, Kyle Shanahan doesn't need

627
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Speaker 5: to come to combine like what why not? You know?

628
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 5: So to me, like, I'm not a that screams more

629
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Speaker 5: arrogant to me than Marvin Harrison Junior saying, you guys,

630
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Speaker 5: are you saw my dad? Right? He was pretty good.

631
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: I'm a bigger, faster version of him, So, you know,

632
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Speaker 5: and I think the message that the Marvin Rrison Junior

633
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 5: said have I'm training to be a football player. I'm

634
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Speaker 5: trying it. Ready for Week one in my NFL season

635
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 5: not running in a straight line for forty yards. So

636
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 5: you know, if the wide receivers don't want to run,

637
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 5: that's cool. I can get your GPS number. I've watched

638
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: you on tape. The quarterbacks, I think is a little different.

639
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: It's important to watch those guys throw in person. Think

640
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Speaker 5: of what Anthony did here last year, or what CJ's

641
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: draft did here last year. They solidified or even improve

642
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 5: their stocks. So you know, I think there's some missed opportunities,

643
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 5: especially for Jayden Daniels and Drake May who are not

644
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 5: going first overall, to have said, Okay, well you know,

645
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 5: the suppose the top guy doesn't want to do it,

646
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Speaker 5: I will and I'll and I'll show my stuff. Sure,

647
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 5: and good for them. Yeah.

648
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Speaker 6: Matt Miller from ESPN, right there, crazy draft? What is it?

649
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Speaker 6: What do you do on when when when the NFL

650
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Speaker 6: draft comes wrong? What is your I know what you

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Speaker 6: do obviously you're covering this thing, but what's the inside

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Speaker 6: of you?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 6: And the reason I'm saying is you pour so much

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Speaker 6: into this for much of the year and you're seeing

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Speaker 6: people go off the draft board, sometimes where you predict them,

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Speaker 6: sometimes where you're not.

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 5: What's that night, Like for you watching the drives, it's chaos.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's so much going on, but it's also

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Speaker 5: it's it's it happens so fast, and people are like,

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Speaker 5: what the drafts like six hours long? It really does.

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Speaker 5: It happens so fast. You know that you're you're caught

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Speaker 5: up thinking about like, Okay, you know this player, Anthony

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Speaker 5: Richson goes to the Colts, what do I think about

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Speaker 5: the fit with the coaching staff, What do I think

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Speaker 5: about the culture of the team, the weapons that he's

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Speaker 5: gonna have around him? So you know, you get ten

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Speaker 5: minutes to kind of live in that moment and be

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Speaker 5: excited about the pick, and and also to self scout

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Speaker 5: a little bit and say like, okay, well you know

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Speaker 5: I didn't have that in my mock draft, but it

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Speaker 5: makes sense and here's why. And then you're you're onto

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Speaker 5: the next and then when it's all over, you get

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Speaker 5: really depressed because I got wait a year to do

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Speaker 5: it again and a big vacation in May for you,

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Speaker 5: I hope.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what that is. Matt Miller from ESPN Best

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Speaker 6: in the Business. Follow him on Twitter x at NFL

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Speaker 6: Draft Scout. Matt, thanks for the time thanks so much, guys,