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Speaker 2: They We do have very very special guests in the building.

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Speaker 1: How's it going. Peace and Love, Black Man, thanks for

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Speaker 1: Love to the entire Black Tennessee and especially to black Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Now tell me you know, first, of course, we want

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Speaker 2: Facts facts, facts, and we welcome you. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: you need the money, can't have a hard date. But

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00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: the beauty, the beauty is the building as opposed to

433
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: it being one castle. It's for smaller castles. That helps

434
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: us because, as you know, being in real estate, you

435
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: can operate this and have everything off over there, you follow.

436
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: That's been a beauty. So I can focus in on

437
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: the Marcus Garvey Building, which is which is about twelve buildings,

438
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, twelve classrooms, two bathrooms, computer.

439
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Lab, kicking how over there?

440
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: Yeah? It got what we need right. So I'm looking

441
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: at that and I'm like, if we started with this,

442
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: we can handle this right, you know. So that's why

443
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: we're focusing on that because that'll give us two or

444
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: three years to show improved raise that money for the

445
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: big one. Because once we get into Frederick Douglas building,

446
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: it's a raight brother. That's a modern gym, modern gigantic gym,

447
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: separate lunch row, sixteen class, big hallways. I'm talking about

448
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: the Frederick Douglass Building, my brother would be the central

449
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: Black organizing headquarters in America. Every conference you're trying to

450
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 1: do a hip hop conference, we got all the space

451
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: you need, vendors, entertainment, grassouts side. You follow what.

452
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, yeah, sir, yes, sir?

453
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: See what and the reason I'm so excited when I

454
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: talk about the campus. As someone who speaks as much

455
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: as I do, I can probably only name for you

456
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: five places one hand of places I've spoken in. And

457
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: this is global, not just in the man that's owned

458
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: by us. Ninety nine percent of the time when I'm speaking,

459
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm speaking in property that we had to rent from

460
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: another person. You see speaking to us, and you're speaking us,

461
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: which means I have to watch my message to a.

462
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: Degree for they say next time, no.

463
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: More, next time, no more, or bring the police in

464
00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: on you right then and there exactly. So we will

465
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: have a facility where we can fit all the people

466
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: we need, do all the music we need, all the

467
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: food we need, all the vendors we need, one stop shop,

468
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: and I'm going to market that as a conference center.

469
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: So guess what delta sigma beta. Guess what kappa ALPHASI

470
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: guess what omegasi five five beta sigma sibber Gammarrell say

471
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: the phive beta right when y'all need a space to

472
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: do a conference. Why are you giving a quarter of

473
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: a million to Hyatt, Why you're giving a quarter of

474
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: a million to Hilton while you're giving a quarter of

475
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: a million to Best Western. Where you can come here

476
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: and give that quarter of a million to us. You

477
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: can operate our school for the whole year if you

478
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: do your camra. We got. It's a nice school's modern modern,

479
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: not old modern. We got all the class space y'all need,

480
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: We got all the lunching space y'all need. Let us

481
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: do it and let my students cater it with our hotel,

482
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: restaurant and tourism school. You follow what I'm saying, So

483
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm putting organizations on the spot. When we up and

484
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: run it, I better not catch you. You understand giving

485
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: your money to a white hotel where you got an

486
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: independent school with the facilities you need that you can

487
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: go to. It is Wilmington, thirty minutes from the Philadelphia Airport,

488
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: two hours from DC on the river, historic city. How

489
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: can you say nothing?

490
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: Do you meet any resistance? Are you still meaning resistance?

491
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: Or it was the building? Was that like a turning

492
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: point for the goal that when you.

493
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Give me it was a turning point spiritually, ain't psychologically

494
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: because through those five years Brothers, because of the real

495
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: estate racism, I kept coming into buildings that we could afford,

496
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: like the Philly building getting red line through racism. There

497
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: was a school in Trenton, New Jersey, red line through racism.

498
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: There was a school in Detroit, Michigan that I really wanted,

499
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: owned by Brothers. I didn't get that building because they

500
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: didn't want to work with me on a price. We

501
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: couldn't afford the whole thing, but we could put down

502
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: more than half right and pay the rest off. They

503
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: didn't work with us because we would have been in Detroit, right, Yeah,

504
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: very good place. Yes, I was about to go to Atlanta.

505
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: There was a black OneD church school in Atlanta. It

506
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: wasn't quite what I wanted, but Atlanta is a big

507
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: doctor umar city, so I was gonna work with it.

508
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: But then my mother fell ill, so I couldn't make

509
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: that relocation. Otherwise I would be in Atlanta now, but

510
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: I think it was all by divine design, because the

511
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: Delaware building significantly better in terms of amenities than any

512
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: of the other ones.

513
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 2: Now, when you when you meet that racism real estate racism,

514
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: are there laws to govern that.

515
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Yes, you're supposed to report it. You're supposed to report

516
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: it to the Feds. The Feds do the investigation. If

517
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: the Feds find that there was wrongdoing on a part

518
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: of the realtor, they will give you a certificate that

519
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: allows you to now go to a regular attorney and

520
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: soothe them for that discrimination. But because I've been so

521
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: busy between mom and school and everything else, I hadn't

522
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: had time to follow up on that. But I should have.

523
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: I just been so busy. But that's the way that

524
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: that goes. Yeah, you have to port it to the Feds.

525
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: They will look at it to see if it meets

526
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the definition, and if it does, they now give you

527
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: the authority go get a lawyer and pursue them. Okay, okay,

528
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: let me ask you.

529
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: Have you when you first started out, I heard you

530
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: mentioned some curriculum. I'm gonna get you the.

531
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Six four curriculums of FDMG. I don't mention math, required.

532
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't mention language required, I don't mention science required,

533
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: and I don't mention social studies to civics required. So

534
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: on top of the required there is agricultural and agronomical science,

535
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: where we want to teach them the science of how

536
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: to live off the soil, grow your own food. So

537
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: right now we're actually scouting property to buy about one

538
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: to two acres of land that will be used for

539
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: the FDMG farm. Right, so we got the agriculture, agronomical.

540
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: Then we also got to diet and nutritional, so we

541
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: want to teach them how to eat the livet so

542
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: we will have home economics. They will be taught how

543
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: to make food, understanding the mineral and nutritional properties of

544
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: what you eat and how it impacts the body. So

545
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: we basically want to take the doc the save the

546
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: science and put it into the minds of our children

547
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: so that every boy that graduates from the school will

548
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: be a walking, talking, nutritional doctor in his own right.

549
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Then we got the political and military science, which I'm

550
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: going to teach the bulk of that because that is

551
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: making sure they understand the way the world operates. Why

552
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: was Barack Obama made president? They need to know that.

553
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: Why is Africa the most literally rich continent in the world,

554
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: but the people are in the worst condition. They need

555
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: to know that.

556
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to ask you myself.

557
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know that, bro Okay. When the white

558
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: man colonized Africa, first they were slavery. When slavery ended,

559
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: colonization basically took off, right. So first, we're gonna steal

560
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: your people. Once we've done making them work for free,

561
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna come into Africa and make y'all work for

562
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: free and rob you. Now, there was a revolution to

563
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: push the white man out. Kwame and Krumer of Ghana

564
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: led the way, with Ghana in nineteen fifty seven, becoming

565
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: the first African country to gain independence. Post Colonialism and

566
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: post colonialism is basically a a a a non emotional word, okay,

567
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: to describe a very inhuman thing, such as the rape, exploitation,

568
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: in the humanization of people in their indigenous habitat. See,

569
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: the white man puts words on things to kill the

570
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: emotion behind it. Somebody say slavery, Well, slavery, that don't

571
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: sound too bad. Colonialism though, but when you see what

572
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: they did, that's what makes the difference. So they pushed

573
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: the white Man out, but on the way out the door,

574
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: the white Man started sabotaging all the infrastructure that he

575
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: built in Africa. So guess what he was doing, blowing

576
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: up his own buildings, poison in the water, leave nothing.

577
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave nothing since y'all kicking me out. I'm

578
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna leave everything that I built because I didn't build

579
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: it for y'all. Built it for me to exploit y'all.

580
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: So then the Africans said, wait, we need these buildings,

581
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: we need the railroad, we need that. We need this

582
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: shit with your door. White man said, well, if you

583
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: need it, you got to pay me. Hroa, y'all been

584
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: robbing that's for a century. You done stole diamonds, gold coat, tan, oil, animals, plants.

585
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: What I got to pay if you don't want me

586
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: to destroy the city, Further, sign the contract that you're

587
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: gonna pay me for all this infrastructure. That's how Africa

588
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: got put into debt. When people say, if the white

589
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: Man robbed us blind, why do we owe them? All?

590
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: African nations are in debt to European nations right now.

591
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: This very much. Everyone. Everyone, you say, how can that be?

592
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: When they rob us of people, and they rob us

593
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: of how can we owe y'all? Because on the way

594
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: out the door they were just shave pay me, I'm

595
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna destroy you, destroy your whole infrastructure. Reluctantly, we had

596
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: no option, so we signed God. And then the White

597
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Man said, on top of paying me for this infrastructure,

598
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: if you need any money to build up your new

599
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: independent country, you need schools, you need hospitals, you need jobs,

600
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you need factory, you need medicine, pay pens, pencils, whatever

601
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: you need. I'm gonna loan you the money. But here's

602
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: three things you're gonna do. Number one, I'm gonna charge

603
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: you one thousand percent interests. If you ever want to

604
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: know why the more money Africa get, the worse off

605
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: Africa is, it's because the interest on the loan, you

606
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: can't pay it back in a million years. It's too deep.

607
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: It's too deep to payback. So basically, you're not purchasing

608
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: a loan, you're purchasing slavery. Every time an African nation

609
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: accepts a loan from abroad, they are in essence giving

610
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: up a part of their freedom.

611
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 2: What are they getting loans for for infrastructure?

612
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh, to just exact because remember that when you took

613
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: over the country, you had no bank, you had no reserve,

614
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: you had no credit line. You feel me, It's like

615
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: I just came into this office right now and kicked

616
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: you out because you stolen from me. You start blowing

617
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: up all the speakers and I he said, all you

618
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: want me to leave it, you're gonna pay me for it?

619
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: Then you leave. I still got what you left, but

620
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 1: you did some damage to it. I gotta repair that.

621
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: And I got the build on the tip because remember

622
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: when you was running my country, you only did what

623
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: you needed to do to exploit the resources. You didn't

624
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: give us no schools, You ain't give us no how

625
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: you can give it. Hell, you would kill us if

626
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: we didn't follow. So I need money. Who I ain't

627
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: got no line of credit because this is the first

628
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: day of the new country.

629
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 2: To the same individuals.

630
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: That destroyed you, robed you, raped you, and slaved you,

631
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: colonized you, and take out a loan. So you know

632
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: what they gonna do. They gonna set the terms and

633
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: set your way that every time you come back from

634
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: more money. Are you doing is giving me more control

635
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 1: over your decision making power. So the first thing they

636
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: do is they gonna charge you one thousand percent interest.

637
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: This is why with every loan, Africa gets in worse condition.

638
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: With every loan, Africa gets in worse. Second thing they

639
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: gonna do, they got something called structural adjustment programs. You

640
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: know what that means. That means we're gonna dictate how

641
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna run your economy. And the first thing we're

642
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: gonna dictate is you must not prohibit any European businesses

643
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: from coming into your country to operate their businesses and

644
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: sell to your people. Why is that a problem because

645
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: it means I cannot protect any homegrown national industries. Let

646
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: me give you an example. You and Ghana, right, and Ghana.

647
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Let's say you got palm oil, Sene God, you got

648
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: salt a Zambia. You got tea Nigeria, you got coffee. Right,

649
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: So you might say, I got my own coffee. I

650
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: don't need Maxwell House. I got my own tea. I

651
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: don't need lifting. I got my own salt, I don't

652
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: need Morton's. I got my own chicken. I don't need Purdue.

653
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: White Man said, U uh, the terms of this Loanan,

654
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: you must have a free market economy. Will you hit

655
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: the world free market economy.

656
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: You know what that means me, whoever had the most

657
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: money wins exactly.

658
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: So guess what, I can't compete with Morton salt. They

659
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: can grow it quicker, they can refine it, they can

660
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: sell it. Check you follow up. So now you got

661
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: a national company owned by the government competing in their

662
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: own country with a foreign company selling the same thing

663
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: with government with government back. And so when you go

664
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: to Africa, you say, why are Africans in Senegal buying

665
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: Morton salt from America when Senegal is known for its salt,

666
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: Because when Morton comes to Senegal, they can sell the

667
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: native salt industry lower price, quicker, more, and they put

668
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: you out of business. That's why you got African country

669
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: that grow tea, important tea from Europe. You got your

670
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: own chicken, you important chicken from America. With all these

671
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: chickens you got why because you can't compete with them.

672
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: They sabotage your economy. Now you dependent on them. It's

673
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: that now you dependent. And then the third thing they do,

674
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: so you got your structural adjustment, which basically sabotage your economy.

675
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: Thousand percent interests, sabotage your freedom. And then they got

676
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: this new thing that came in under Obama. It was

677
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: already there, but Obama made it stronger, and that is

678
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: population controlled planning. Oh yes, brother, Oh yes, you know

679
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: what this means. You want this money, You're gonna do

680
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: three things. Number one, birth control, abortion, and hysterectomy must

681
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: be made freely available to the women. Oh yes, you're

682
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: gonna push birth control. Yes, yes, you're gonna push contraceptives. Yes, yes,

683
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna push hysterectomy. In fact, you're gonna pay black

684
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: women to get their insides taken. Oh. Yes. When I

685
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: was in South Africa, I never forget it. Two thousand

686
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: and five, my first time. They have been there many

687
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: times since. On the way to the airport, there was

688
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: a big billboard. It said hysterectomies five hundred US dollars.

689
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: We will pay you. Did you hear that? You don't

690
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: have to pay us. We're gonna give you five hundred

691
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: US dollars to get your reproductive system taken out. And

692
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: guess what, because of the economy that has been created

693
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: in Africa by the white man, a lot of our

694
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: sisters go for it because economically it's so stressful to

695
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: live African poverty is nothing like Black American poverty. Go

696
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: to the worst hood in America, the horse Hood. It

697
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: can't compete with a ghetto in Johannesburg, a ghetto in Ghana,

698
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: a ghetto in serial ly On, brother, It don't even

699
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: begin to compete with it. You see, you're talking about

700
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: poverty on a whole new level. So you got a

701
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: young black girl struggling, already got two kids. White man saying,

702
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: I give you five hundred dollars if you let me

703
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: take out your reproductives. But we ain't gonna tell you.

704
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: When you take out your reproductive you're probably gonna put

705
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: some cancer or some AIDS in you see. So, and

706
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: then the LBGT. That's why that's being pushed in Africa

707
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: too under Obama. Brother, it was Barack Obama who went

708
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: to the president of Uganda, in Liberia and I think Tanzania,

709
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: and I was in Liberia around that time that that

710
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: crisis kicked and Obama threatened many African nations. Those are

711
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: just three that come to mind, because those presidents stood

712
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: up and said, you don't come here and tell us

713
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: how to run our culture. We've been around two This

714
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: is the president of you gotta. I'm paraphras He said,

715
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: We've been around two million years. Who are you to

716
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: come to my country and tell me that I have

717
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: to make it legal for a man to marry a man.

718
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: We are African. That is not how we build families.

719
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: If y'all want to do that in Europe or America,

720
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: you do that in Europe in America, and Obama said,

721
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: if you don't make gay marriage legal, we will cut

722
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: off your aid. Here's the question, why does an American

723
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: president give a damn as to whether or not an

724
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: African country legalizes homosexuality, Because through the legalization of homosexuality,

725
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: you control the black population growth. R Homosexuality is both control.

726
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: Lesbianism is both control, and it is a more powerful

727
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: form of birth control than any pill or any contraceptive.

728
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: This is an extermination. See, we've had four periods in

729
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: our so join in America, four centuries, four periods. Sixteen nineteen,

730
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: seventeen nineteen. That was a period of shock. We was

731
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: trying to understand what what all is going or we

732
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: never saw white folks before. A lot of us. We

733
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: just took a ninety day boat ride through Hell, ninety

734
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: day sleeping in feces, and menstrual blood and shackle the

735
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: dead bodies. And then you come out from that a

736
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: land you don't know, white folks you never seen, giving

737
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: you names you don't relate to, enforcing you to do

738
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: work without pay. We were in trauma, brother, That first

739
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: century was trauma. Second century seventeen nineteen to eighteen nineteen.

740
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: That's when we begin to try to fight for our humanity.

741
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: Because remember, the European enslavement of the African is the

742
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: first slavery where the victim was stripped of their humanity. See,

743
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: people always say, why y'all keep talking about slavery. Everybody

744
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: been slaves. You ain't the first slaves. In fact, the

745
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: word slave comes from slav which describes one of the

746
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: first European groups to be enslaved in Europe. Right, that's true,

747
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: we're not the first, but we're the the only ones ever,

748
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: including biblical slavery, to be stripped of your humanity, to

749
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: be told that you are not a human being. So

750
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: our second centur we had to fight the proof we

751
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: were people, and we forget that a lot of black

752
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: people forget. Before you could fight to be free, you

753
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: had to fight the proof that you are a person.

754
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Worvy of the free. Yes, third century eighteen nineteen to

755
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen, that was a fight for freedom. That's from

756
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: the birth of Frederick Douglas to the rise of Marcus Goffy.

757
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: That's your Nat Turner, that's your Harriet Tubman, that's your

758
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Shot the Zulu, that's your Haitian Revolution. In fact, that

759
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: century there, the third one, eighteen nineteen to nineteen nineteen,

760
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: I would argue, was our greatest century since the fall

761
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: of the Great Kingdoms of Africa, because in that century

762
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: you got your Pan Africanism, most of your major slave revolts,

763
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: your greatest African and African American leaders, from Shahkazu to Frederick.

764
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. You see, that was our

765
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: century right here, that was it. We ain't done nothing

766
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: before or since in this country that we've done eighteen

767
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: nineteen or nineteen nineteen, from Douglas to Garvey. Can't touch it.

768
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: Then you got nineteen nineteen or twenty nineteen. I want

769
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: to split this in two. I want to go nineteen

770
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: nineteen to nineteen sixty eight assassination of king, and I

771
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: want to go the assassination of King to today. Right

772
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen to nineteen sixty eight. We started off with

773
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: the same organized power we had coming out of the

774
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: third century. The movements was there, Garvey was there. You know,

775
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: NAACP wasn't doing much for us, but it got formed.

776
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: The Black labor unions was coming. We was coming, Doctor

777
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: King knock, them were coming. And then the white man

778
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: said in nineteen sixty eight, we got to stop this

779
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: because it is threatening the status quote in this country

780
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: of white over black. Oh yeah, in one way, in

781
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: several ways. Let's go back twenty years nineteen fifty four. Right,

782
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: civil Rights Bill is sixty four, But they desegregated the

783
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: schools ten years earlier, fifty four. Why did they desegregate

784
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: the school This was the beginning. The fifty four was

785
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: the beginning. The reason they desegregated the schools wasn't for

786
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: us to sit with the white kids. It wasn't to

787
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: give us a better education. They were afraid that if

788
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: they did not kill independent black education, it was a

789
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: pass white education. Remember that we were inventing things in

790
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: that one room black schoolhouse. White kids were not thinking

791
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: about Remember the gas mask. You wasn't sitting next to

792
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: white folks when you invented that the refrigerated truck. You

793
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: wasn't sitting next to white folks. When you invented that

794
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: the God light. You wasn't sitting next to white folks

795
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: when you invented that. When Charles Drew separated blood plasma,

796
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: he wasn't sitting next to white folks when he was

797
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: a child in school thinking about doing that. Walkie talkies

798
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: and baby carriages and ironing boards and golf teaser. White

799
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: men said, look at what these Nigro kids are creating.

800
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: If we don't kill they will intellectually dominate this country. Period.

801
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: That's why they desegregated the schools to crush the intellectual

802
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: potential of black.

803
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: Or at least be able to steal from us.

804
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: Oh yes, and still, if I could.

805
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Sit next to you, you know I can do a

806
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: little exactly.

807
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. Fifty four, sixty four, seventy four, fifty four, they

808
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: integrated the schools to kill black intelligence. Sixty four they

809
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: gave you the Civil Rights Bill once again, Why did

810
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: they do the Civil Rights Bill? The Civil Rights Bill

811
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: was not passed so you can live with white folks

812
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: and date white folks and go to their hotels. You

813
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: know why I was passed so that they could benefit

814
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: from the black dollar. Remember, until desegregation, you had Black

815
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: Wall Street, you had TUSA, you had Rosewood, you had Charston,

816
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: you had Wilmington, North Carolina. You had all these pockets

817
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: of black economic power. White man said, that is a threat.

818
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: That is a threat. That is a threat. So we're

819
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: going to desegregate and make it look like this is

820
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: for social justice. We want to keep a closed sound.

821
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna make it look like it's for social justice,

822
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: but we are really integrating for economic domination of black capital.

823
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: Look where we've been since desegregation. You can't show me

824
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: a black community in America. Mind you, we are two

825
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: trillion dollar people. We're the richest group of Africans in

826
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the world, where the tenth richest economic nation on the planet.

827
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: And you can't show me a community in America where

828
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: black people own a school to educate life, a hospital

829
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: to protect life, a supermarket to feed life, or a

830
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: bank to invest in life. This is why they desegregated.

831
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: And then sixty eight they assassinated doctor King, the last visionary,

832
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: sincere leader of a mass comprehensive movement for black folks

833
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: for change. When they kill King, they said, we got

834
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: to make sure we never get another one ever again. Now,

835
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: at the time that King was murdered, he was considered

836
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: the most dangerous black man in America. Now after the

837
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: murdered King, Jaego who would declared the panthers a few

838
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: years later as the number one threat to American national security.

839
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: But King was considered and I agree he was at

840
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: sixty eight after the death of Malcolm, after he visited

841
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: the grave of Marcus Garvey and Jamaica, he came back

842
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: preaching just like Garvey. If you listen to any of

843
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: doctor King's speeches. After he went to visit the grave

844
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: of the Honorable Marcus Garvey, those garvey Ice, those Jamaicans

845
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: got into him and he came back preaching Govey And

846
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: that's what they said. He got to go because the

847
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: man that we killed, Malcolm fall became Malcolm. And you know,

848
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: Malcolm was a son of Garvey Ice. His mother and father,

849
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Earl and Louise Little, used to run the u NIA

850
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: Chapter I believe in Lansing, Michigan for the Honorable Marcus Garvey.

851
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: His mother used to write for the Negro World Garvey paper,

852
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: so that yes, yes, Malcolm was a Gavy Heike. Elijah

853
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Poole was a Garvey Heke. They all come from Garby.

854
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: So they said, we gotta make sure we don't get

855
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: another doctor King. They said, how did doctor King manage

856
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: to pull this off without us financing? They said, independent

857
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: black businesses finance the civil rights movement. White man said yeah.

858
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: They said yes, So, so guess what we're gonna do.

859
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna go into the ghetto and we're gonna crush

860
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: the independent black businesses. How you gonna do that? Two things.

861
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: Number One, We're gonna go into their high schools. We're

862
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: gonna go into Chattanooga. We're gonna go to Memphis. We're

863
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: gonna go to Nashville. We're gonna go to Knoxville. And

864
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: guess what we're gonna do. We will go to every

865
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: black high school and take out all the building trades.

866
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna make sure they cannot be taught how to

867
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: use their hands to feed their family ever again. They

868
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: took out auto shop, they took out the electric program,

869
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: they took out plumbing, they took out well being, they

870
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: took out HVAC. This is what they did, This is

871
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: what they did. This is the beginning. Of the war

872
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: between the black woman and the black man. They made

873
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: the black man ekenomically irrelevant to the black woman's life.

874
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: They said, this is how we're gonna kill black power.

875
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna set the family against each other. If we

876
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: can set the black women against the black man, he

877
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: won't have time to fight us because he got to

878
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: fight his own women. So they went into the high

879
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: schools and took out all the building trades. Think about it,

880
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: before nineteen eighty, the black community was never about going

881
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: to college to take care of our family because we

882
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed in the colleges, right, So they would change this.

883
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: So why they taking away our economics by making sure

884
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: our boys ain't learning the skills that pay the bills.

885
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: Making sure our boys no longer learn the skills that

886
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: pay the bills. They started this college education propaganda. Go

887
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: to college, America is integrated. Now you could go to

888
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Harvard and Stanford and Yale, and we sent our kids

889
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: on hundred thousand dollars loans, go go, failing to realize

890
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: that even though they got that degree, who gonna give

891
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: him a job? It was a trap. It was a trap.

892
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: So then nineteen seventy they economically decimated us, and then

893
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: they took all the factories out the black community. You

894
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: go to most northern and Midwestern cities Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore.

895
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: You see old factories. That's where we used to work,

896
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: good jobs, made more than than we make now with

897
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: college degrees. They got rid of all of them. That

898
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: was the nineteen seventies, but they wasn't done. Nineteen eighties,

899
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: CIA drop off the crack cocaine boom. So now the

900
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: black man can no longer earn with his hands. He

901
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: got to make a decision with this crack. This is

902
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: a booming business. You can smoke it to deal with

903
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: the pain of not being able to provide for your family,

904
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: or you can try to sell it and provide for

905
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: your family. Either way and you're going to jail, which

906
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: takes us to nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill, nineteen

907
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: ninety four boom. Look at this. Every decade since they

908
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: killed King, they didn't hit us. So the seventies, economic castration, eighties,

909
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: the crack, nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill under a

910
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: Democratic president that black people considered to be one of it. Yeah,

911
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: our bore. You got Bill Clinton locked up more black

912
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: men than any Republican president since reconstruction, mandatory three strikes

913
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: in you out, mandatory federal minimum wages for nonviolent drug

914
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: related offenses, kicked millions of Black women off welfare and

915
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: the welfare of the work program. And then he did

916
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: something else under the table we wasn't even watching. He

917
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: criminalized child support. That was Clinton. Clinton did that. That

918
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: happened under Bill Clinton. Before Bill Clinton. You didn't go

919
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: to jail if you didn't have a job to pay

920
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: your child support. Right. He snuck that in. And the

921
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: reason he was able to snuck it in is because

922
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: I don't think they put the language directly in the

923
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: crime bill. So the black community didn't fight it because

924
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: they didn't know that that was part of the whole mix.

925
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: He criminalized child support, so any black man with a

926
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: child technically technically is on parole. Any damn way that

927
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: ten more years we come to the year two thousand

928
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: election of George W. Bush for president. He comes in

929
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: with the FBI Faith Based Initiative, where he finds a

930
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: loophole in federal law that allows him the fund Black church.

931
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: If you want to know why, you ain't seen the

932
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: Black church involved in any major struggle affecting black folks.

933
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that you don't see the Black church

934
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: dealing with police genocide. You don't see the Black church

935
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: dealing with miseducation. You don't see the Black church deal

936
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: with unemployment. You don't see the Black church deal with

937
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: mass incarceration. Can you name one thing that the Black

938
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: Church is at the far front of changing for black folks?

939
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: You can't why? Because of hy two K, the new

940
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: millennium came with a new takeover of the Black Church.

941
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: The federal government now owns the Black Church FBI Faith

942
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: Based Initiative. Your pastor is the new snitch.

943
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: Om. Now that's d Now that's two What year was this.

944
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: Two thousand, which is also the same year that the

945
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: federal government decided that they were going to take back

946
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: all major cities from blacks and gentrifying back in the

947
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: hands of whites. Yep, that was why two K. You're

948
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: seeing it now, but it was decided twenty years That

949
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: was why two K. They unemployed us, they drug addicted us,

950
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: they mastering, incarcerated us, They neutralized the Black Church, and

951
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: they took back the ghettos.

952
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 2: Now, what the what the college proper gant do?

953
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh man, two million unemployed African Americans were masters and

954
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: doctorate degrees. That's what you got in America. I didn't

955
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: say bachelor's, I didn't say associates. I say masters. And

956
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: this is the top of the top. Brother. I occasionally

957
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: get resumes from lawyer's brother. Lawyer, law degree, licensed attorney.

958
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: I can't try to ask you to put them the

959
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: word trying to put in the word man, this is

960
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: we got to go back to the skills.

961
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: So tell me with the school are you for your school?

962
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: Are you teaching the kids to leave school without needing college.

963
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: There's no college for.

964
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: FDMG No, no, no, because you still have to have

965
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: your black professional class. In other words, there's certain professions

966
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: you cannot practice without college degrees right because of the structure,

967
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: because they require licenses and certifications that you can only

968
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: get if you have the credential. Right, medical doctor you

969
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: got to go to college. Lawyer you gotta go to

970
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: coge educated Engineers, psychologists, pharmacists, you got to go to college.

971
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: So for those children who want to be something that

972
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: requires college, we senting them. But for the ones who

973
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: ain't interested in that, why do they have to do that?

974
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: The issue is options. Know that you can build your

975
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: economic empire and legacy for your children's children's children. You

976
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: can do it without a college degree. Don't let nobody

977
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: intimidate you and make you fearful of not going to

978
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: college in order to be successful. Because the top one

979
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: percent richest people in the world never set foot in

980
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: the university. Yeah.

981
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of people, I know this rich.

982
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: Never set foot in the union.

983
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: Now that's that dude, that's loaded. Like, that's a lot

984
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: of shit. That's a lot of information. That's great information.

985
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this now with that being said,

986
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: because because a lot of stuff, like I said, this

987
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: stuff has to get out to the masses. We need

988
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: this information. Back then, I think twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

989
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, there was almost like a push for our youth,

990
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: in my opinion, again from the outside, from being boots

991
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 2: on the ground and not wrapped up in that industry stuff.

992
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 2: I see doctor Uman on breakfast Club. I see Farah

993
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 2: Khan on breakfast club. I see brother Polite on breakfast Club.

994
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: I see uh you know, Uman Vlad, I see Uman

995
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 2: one O six this and then I don't know if

996
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: it was the LGBT stuff or something happened, and then

997
00:54:55,560 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: it was boof Wulma's no longer on Breakfast Club.

998
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: He's not the gift was the curse. On the one hand,

999
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: the hip hop community knew that the youth were beginning

1000
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: to become woke, so they said, if we want to.

1001
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: Stay relevant, we're.

1002
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: Gonna have to somehow cater to this new woke movement

1003
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: because it might overtake hip hop. So if hip hop

1004
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: does not get on top of the wokeless, the walkless

1005
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: might top on hip hop. Right. That's what brought us

1006
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: into that because for the first time you had the

1007
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: people listen to the gangster rap. But then they'll turn

1008
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: on some doctor Umar, some John Henry Clark, right. So

1009
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: then the shot callers said, look at this. Okay, we

1010
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: got to get out in front of this because we

1011
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: don't need this backfiring on us. So that's when they

1012
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: rode out the red carpet to the conscious movement. First

1013
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: they let everybody else come. Of course, I'm going to

1014
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: be one of the last ones because my message is

1015
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: too strong for main streight. So I was at a Columbia,

1016
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: South Carolina, only been there once. Brother walked up to

1017
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: my young Brody said you need to be on the

1018
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. I said, brother, I'm never getting on. He said, listen,

1019
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: take this card. This is Charlemagne's. It was either Charlemagne's

1020
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: card to Charlemagne's agent. He said, call him. I said,

1021
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: I give it a shot. I said, bro, trust me,

1022
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm too strong for this platform. Sure enough, I hit him,

1023
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: and the brother said we were wanting to do this,

1024
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: So we did the first Breakfast Club right. I didn't

1025
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: think nothing of it. Good interview, Charlemagne was cool, Envy was,

1026
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: school went well, good. Brothers Angie left that thing. Brother,

1027
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: That thing went viral. That was twenty fourteen. I said, oh,

1028
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Charlamagne was like, yeah, we

1029
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: got to do it again. I said, let's do it.

1030
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: Came back fifteen, viral again. I said two cause it's.

1031
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: The hip hop mixed.

1032
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: Yes, that's what this is. The last one. The crazy

1033
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: thing about the last one was almost canceled. That's when

1034
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: I got on a bright orange dat shiki. I was

1035
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: running late. I called the queen who set up. I said,

1036
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: cancel this. I'm on some strip in New York for

1037
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: traffic backed up. Envy and Charlotte Maine said tell them

1038
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: to come on the way. We gotta do it. Whatever

1039
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: we can get in, we're gonna get That was the

1040
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: shortest of the three because I was late, might have

1041
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: been thirty eight minutes. That one went more viral than

1042
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: the previous two. And if I don't got the stats

1043
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: on this, but I believe it is the most watched

1044
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: political interview in Breakfast Club history, and it's one of

1045
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: the most watched interviews period in Breakfast Club history. I

1046
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: would argue that that interview may have been watched more

1047
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: than any raper interview they did that year. You can't

1048
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: go off the Breakfast Cup totals because people snatching and

1049
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: repost it, so you got to add it from you

1050
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: follow They ranked at number nine. They ranked it as

1051
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: the ninth most powerful interview of that year. But in

1052
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: terms of peer reviews, I think it got more than

1053
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: Jay and everybody of that year that I'll never forget it.

1054
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: After the second interview. After the second when I went

1055
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: to T Mobile because it was time to go to

1056
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: Africa and I want a T Mobile phone because they

1057
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: got a better international the brother, you know, y'all give

1058
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: me your name, get the new phone. I got my hat.

1059
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: He set up Omar Johnson. He said, Yo, what sure

1060
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: to do? I said, you said, you're the one on

1061
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: the breklet. He said, bruh, that interview is everywhere you look.

1062
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: I laughed. He said, bruh, I'm not playing with you.

1063
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: I ain't understand.

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Speaker 1: Go on anybody's Facebook, anybody's Instagram right now, and your

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Speaker 1: interview is the thing right now, right. And then that's

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Speaker 1: when I had to step back and say, okay, they

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Speaker 1: were gonna start watching me now because they gonna say,

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Speaker 1: who is this psychologist on more than the people were

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Speaker 1: put out front. I was supposed to be back on

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club November. Shout out to Charlotmagne. He looked out

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Speaker 1: for me, but I hit the high road, the highway late,

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Speaker 1: and then he had to make a change and asked

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Speaker 1: me if I could come in a little early. It

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Speaker 1: didn't work. So I'm just waiting for that for that

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Speaker 1: next right. But here's what I want to say. It's

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Speaker 1: your boy Lorna from itself that podcast. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: watching the video you just watched.

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Speaker 2: To make sure you subscribe by hitting the button you

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Speaker 2: see on the screen, or go to the next video

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Speaker 2: by hitting this right here you see on the screen

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