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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, six eight,

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Speaker 1: Episode three up ter Days, the production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It is our first episode of

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist. When Donald Trump is not the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States. Wow, unmore Yeah, thank God. Back

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Speaker 1: to brunch, y'all be two b It is Thursday, January one.

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Speaker 1: It is uh t minus one day from January twenty,

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Speaker 1: so we can stop counting this down. I will delete

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Speaker 1: it from the dock. Uh we made it. The motherfucker

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Speaker 1: is gone. We will talk about that. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a k. My tiredness is killing me and

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Speaker 1: I I must confess I'm Jacoby. Jacoby. When it's not Mountain,

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Speaker 1: do I lose my mind? Give me a start? Hit

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Speaker 1: me baja one more blast. That is courtesy of Samboni Zamboni,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles grond Oh. And it's Miles Gray

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Speaker 1: a k A. I thought we'd be stuck with you

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Speaker 1: for ever, but that fascist pizza ship has gone away. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's not hard to say goodbye to this pizza ship

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Speaker 1: and one more well, it seems to me that just

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Speaker 1: in your life like a giant piece of ship. The

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Speaker 1: first one is from me, the second one from Christie.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci Maine just had there. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good. It's a lot of good right now, but

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Speaker 1: I just had to He had a whole verse, but

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Speaker 1: that one hits, you know, like a giant piece of ship. Beautiful.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat

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Speaker 1: by the hilarious, the talent to the very first face

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Speaker 1: on Mountain Zepmar She is Jamie Left. That's all I

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Speaker 1: had to say. I did, I was. I lost my ship.

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Speaker 1: When Jennifer Lopez screamed, let's get loud in the middle

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Speaker 1: of this land is your land? Yeah that is? It

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Speaker 1: was dope people that Woody Guthrie j Lo mash up,

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Speaker 1: and it was like, Wow, this is a girl ball

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Speaker 1: Us event. She gonna start doing her own ship like

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Speaker 1: waiting for tonight and doing it, starting a medley of

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Speaker 1: her great night don't be food like Joey from the Block.

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Speaker 1: That was some real girl bash it. But I was

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Speaker 1: laughing my head off. Yeah I'm not I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: get loud I'm getting I've been getting loud all morning,

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Speaker 1: just screaming that, yeah, let's get I was actually we

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Speaker 1: were a little worried heading into this recording, just how

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Speaker 1: Sunny dealing with everything. Party. He's drunk, man, he's up,

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Speaker 1: he started. I was telling Miles off Mike Sunny started

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Speaker 1: icing us at five A Bro's ice and Bros. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, wait, my pillow feels weird.

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Speaker 1: It turns out there's three smirknof ices under Damn. Sony

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Speaker 1: is Jamie's dog, who is all right for new listeners. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he was. He actually he was dead asleep by

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Speaker 1: the time the inacuration happened. That like be passed out

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Speaker 1: and you have that blocker on you. I know it

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Speaker 1: doesn't it's not a good look to have that blocker

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Speaker 1: on you. But you know, free the homies that they

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Speaker 1: caught with it. R I p to the homies they

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Speaker 1: caught without it. Because when you're getting ice, if you

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Speaker 1: have us, if someone tries to ice you and you

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Speaker 1: to drink and then everyone looks ridiculous, and look, this

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Speaker 1: will be in the lord that people won't know about.

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Speaker 1: But when I was doing smearing off icing in the

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Speaker 1: streets of Tokyo, there were moments where I would have

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Speaker 1: getting that aggressive and like Batman's utility belt. But how

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Speaker 1: did you have them? Well, because it's in Japan, they

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Speaker 1: sell Lucy's of smirnoff So I can go to a

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Speaker 1: seven eleven and like when someone had their back turned,

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Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, yeah, y'all want to check

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Speaker 1: like yeah, going do I'm gonna play it out here.

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Speaker 1: I would run down the street to the convenience store

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Speaker 1: by like nine smirnoff ices and put in my backpack

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Speaker 1: and then just like when they come out and be like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got you something. It's stupid and I

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Speaker 1: mean anyone under like what does does has never been iced.

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Speaker 1: It was the best marketing tactic the Devil ever thought of.

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Speaker 1: I'm I think people like it, fucking like break dot

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Speaker 1: just picture Sunny being so like next level where it's like,

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Speaker 1: people shout out to my friend Nick who taught me

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Speaker 1: That's like the high you chase when you're doing it,

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Speaker 1: like at another level. I just picked your Sunny like

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Speaker 1: being like I gotta go to the bathroom and he

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Speaker 1: just ships out of smear koff ice and it's like like, Gus,

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Speaker 1: you've been nice. So yeah, I was sing us all morning.

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Speaker 1: Um and yeah, you know, he said some things that

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Speaker 1: I'd rather not repeat, but he was very drunk. Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do they still smell? Do they still smell? No? Do

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Speaker 1: they still sell smearnoff ice? So it's still a product. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I still try to ice. Well back when we can

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Speaker 1: Something they don't know what the funk you're talking about

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Speaker 1: or not interested and you just like such a piece

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Speaker 1: oh so it's this thing where I hide it, and

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Speaker 1: then you have to drink the whole thing in front

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Speaker 1: of me because I said so, and you have to

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Speaker 1: get on one knee before me as you do very chill. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't have to do any of that, Jamie. Okay, alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: what a way to begin our first post Trump record. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Let's get loud, folks, Let's get she said it, I

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Speaker 1: felt it. Let's get I know. I'm gonna smoke that

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Speaker 1: loud jard you smoking on that Trump smoke later that loud.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jamie, we're going to get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We will give brief impressions of the inauguration. We know

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Speaker 1: yesterday for y'all we're still, you know, living through the

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Speaker 1: day of So we'll talk about that. We'll say peace

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Speaker 1: out to the past president. Uh, we'll talk about his bills.

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Speaker 1: Bills are coming do Yeah, I was too screening the

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Speaker 1: inauguration with just a main line of Q and on

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Speaker 1: display at the inauguration, Joe Exotic getting sucked over, just

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Speaker 1: we will talk about Armie Hammer. Uh. We will have

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Speaker 1: superproducer on a jsnier on to discuss all that plenty more.

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Speaker 1: But first Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what's

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Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of searches. Uh, so just

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Speaker 1: let me know which search jumps out to you. I

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Speaker 1: Her name's sat Dimfna and if you google her, she's

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Speaker 1: really pretty. I found out that one more time period

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Speaker 1: like where it's her when? That's when did she get

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Speaker 1: I just know she's a yeah, thirteenth century. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: So there you go. She was murdered by her father,

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Speaker 1: which brings me to my next my next Google search,

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Speaker 1: which is the guy who helped make Tetris that murdered

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Speaker 1: a man named Vladimir Puck Puck kilco Um. It's very sad.

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Speaker 1: the third update? Just for it as hard as your presentation?

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Speaker 1: Or was that your own comedic taste that you that was?

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Speaker 1: It's very sad, but it was just it woke me

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Speaker 1: all these people she was working with were like, you

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Speaker 1: for like a mix of good and bad news. You

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Speaker 1: my Google how much can you embezzle out of a

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Speaker 1: dollar amount? What had happened? No, they it was kept

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Speaker 1: sure this guy delivers on a lot of the ship

425
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: that he promised people. But yeah, in the moment, it

426
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: felt nice and a man Gorman shout out to her,

427
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, he's very incredible. She's a star,

428
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: is what I said. When she's a star, look at kids.

429
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: You should watch her. She's a kid to look at her. Yeah,

430
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: I did think she was younger than she is. I

431
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: was like, this child has more presence than anybody else.

432
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: But she's twenty two. But I got very nervous when

433
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: I saw Bill Clinton talking to her loan afterwards. I

434
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: was like, can we like shut it down? You can

435
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: see the Secret Service guy tackle her, like like get

436
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: down here. Yeah, there was a whole just seeing it

437
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: was also just weird to see like the passage of

438
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: time that had occurred, because I vividly remember watching the

439
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: inauguration four years ago in my underwear and it was

440
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: raining in l A. And I was like, Jesus fucked up.

441
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: There we go and that American carnage fucking speech he

442
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: gave and it was like yeah, I don't know, like

443
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: then to realize that that we had gotten past it,

444
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: and but all the damage I was done, I don't know,

445
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: it was, it was a lot of It was just

446
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: very surreal, I think, to see it all happen. Yeah yeah, yeah,

447
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: definitely some relief and then other stuff that's just like

448
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: god damn it. There's so much to do, like and

449
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: there's so much to like hold to account. That's why

450
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: I think it's important to like treat this at least

451
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: one day. Uh, you know, as we record this, it's

452
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: still inauguration day, but like just to fucking remember, like

453
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: okay that that actually we can punctuate the end of

454
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: that administration. Yeah, and like feel the relief of that

455
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: and then still just be like okay, but now, you know,

456
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: keep the strength up to not just completely go back

457
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: to normal because the media is like love they're starting

458
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: out like eleven again, like we were talking narrative. Yeah,

459
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: they're like, who glad that was over? Like there, yeah

460
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: that no, back to brunch. I mean it goes without

461
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: saying that like that is garbage, but you know, it's

462
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: a good week to join your local tenants union. Um.

463
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: The we've been talking about just overall, like the the

464
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: idea that or I've been talking about this, the the

465
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: idea that the presidency is sort of a blend of um,

466
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: the monarchy and actually like having power to end the world. Uh.

467
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: And that was many They really like just the way

468
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: that all the pop and circumstance that goes into that,

469
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: like the it really like drives at home the god

470
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: ordained like religious nature of the Guttenberg Bible. Yeah. I'm

471
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: just like, okay, the political theater is a bit especially

472
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: in a year that's been all political theater and like

473
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: bad community polity. I was kind of bummed out, and

474
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: not like because I'm like, oh they sank He's gone,

475
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: but like truly Trump just took such a dump on

476
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: the idea of what this thing is that like it

477
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: kind of helped like wash away any magic or mystery

478
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: that I was sort of like, I'm like, okay, cool,

479
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Like here we go with the fancy fanfare and all

480
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: this other stuff that for whatever reason, like I just

481
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: became more cynical looking at it, or just have the

482
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: feeling of like it's it's the value has been demand

483
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: inish to the point where it looks like meaningless. I

484
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: liked Bernie. I feel like Bernie Sanders's vibe was the

485
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: most appropriate of anyone up there, looking like he just

486
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: came from a Burlington cope factory, just with some Yeah,

487
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: he had Mittens on by like a teacher in Vermont

488
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: who like super dope, and the all the other presidents

489
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: had on those like O J is a toner black

490
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: leather gloves that I'm always How did those last? How

491
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: are they still like the de facto cold weather glove

492
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: for people? Are they comfortable? I've never worn leather gloves

493
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: my mom got like a promo pair for some movie

494
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: because she always gets all this stuff like from junks,

495
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: and that's a sinister thing to send someone the leather clubs?

496
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: Was it for the people versus o js? No, it's

497
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: for this TV show Fargo. Okay, No, they are a crime.

498
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: They're they're perfect glows. But I remember seeing him like,

499
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: what is this for people versus o j Obviously, but

500
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like their leather on the inside.

501
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: They're just like fleece lined. So but there for when

502
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: when I wear them, I feel like a cop or something,

503
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and I don't like I'm like, give me the mittens.

504
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: Aesthetic is weird? I liked. I like Bernie's mittens. I

505
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: like that he brought an envelope with him. He was like,

506
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm going back to work, right Yeah, He's like, wrap

507
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: this up the post. I'm pretty sure the last pickup

508
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: point for this mailboxes in about thirty minutes and shout

509
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: out to social media. We we give social media a

510
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: lot of ship for bringing about the dissolution of society,

511
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: but the photoshop game with a photoshopping Bernie into various

512
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: like onto the New York City subway, onto various places

513
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: that he looked appropriate for was in full effect and

514
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: well done. Hell yeah, all right, let's say, uh, piece

515
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: out to that piece of ship um who just left

516
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 1: office and just kind of get our heads around you

517
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: know where he where he's at because he wasn't at

518
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: the inauguration, which was nice, God, thank god, Yeah it

519
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: was I didn't I didn't realize how I like, how

520
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: glaring his absence would be um after I don't know,

521
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, you really do notice when

522
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: every other living president is sitting there and the worst

523
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: person on earth is not sitting there. Right, Biden acknowledged

524
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: like in Jimmy Carter can't be here because old understood.

525
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: But but he did not acknowledge that. He did shout

526
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: out Mike Pence but yeah, and then salty punk motherfucker

527
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: you worked with. I guess I forget his name, but

528
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: he's not here, but yeah, he's satisfying. See Pence, Pence

529
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: get in the suburban and go away. It was nice.

530
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even wake up to watch the Trump like,

531
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here fest. I mean, I

532
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: just saw a couple of pictures and I'm not really

533
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: interested and give or give a funk about what he

534
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: said because piece the funk out, but I know that

535
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: the very least he did vow to return. Yeah, and

536
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: then the other thing that was coming along with that

537
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: is that, you know, he's also been talking about splitting

538
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: off Third Party talk now making the Patriot Party and

539
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: really taking his little fucking missing from misinformed humanoid toys

540
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: of supporters and making his own little thing. So that

541
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: would be interesting because that would be look a split

542
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: GOP whatever movement. Uh great, figured like I'd love to

543
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: see them try and unify against anything, but who knows.

544
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: I mean, but they're more alike than they are dissimilar.

545
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, it's more just

546
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: like the GEOP just wasn't outwardly racist enough for that.

547
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: Now I now have like a visceral reaction to when

548
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: anyone uses the word unity. I'm like, sounds like something

549
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: is on the way, saying okay fascists. Yeah. But I mean,

550
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: if if that does happen, that also opens it up

551
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: for actual progressives to break off from the Democratic Party,

552
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: which would be and then like, now what you're gonna

553
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: do because now we've yeah yeah, um, but so you

554
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: know he's down in Florida now, Uh, and he's you know,

555
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the new reality that he's dealing with is setting in

556
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: for him. Uh, one thing that's gonna hit well, yeah,

557
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: you'd hope. So, I mean it kind of has to

558
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: because he's facing legal challenges and financially he's kind of fucked. Right.

559
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Golf courses are just been fucked by the

560
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: pandemic um and basically anything that has the word Trump

561
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: on it is just toxic and going into a death

562
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: spiral um. You know, like the places that we're making

563
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: money throughout you know, despite his brand toxicity and all

564
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: that was Bedminster in New Jersey, uh and mar Lago

565
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: and the Trump Hotel and DC because they were sort

566
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: of like these places where everyone would be like, oh dude,

567
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: if you hang out around there, like there's a chance

568
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: you'll intersect with someone in the administration. And that's like

569
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: where the power brokering was happening. But now that that

570
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: ship's poof like they're like they're like, oh funk that,

571
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Like that might as well just be an abandoned like

572
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: fucking Halloween store or some ship. So now and see,

573
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: all these problems were before he tried to skull funk

574
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: the capital with the insurrection, so on top of that,

575
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: there's all this other fallout. So his forty Wall Street

576
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: property tenants are just fleeing. Girl Scouts of America are gone.

577
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: The p g A is like, dude, we're not doing

578
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: anything with you and any of your golf courses. The

579
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: City of New York's terminating all kinds of like contracts

580
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: with him, um and and more than anything, it's the

581
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: fact that he has no banks that will actually help him,

582
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: like his biggest creditor Deutsche Bank, who does literally business

583
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: with anyone fucking terrorists, narco trafficer, whatever the funk anything like,

584
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: we don't give a funk. If you can be clever

585
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: with it will turn the other way. They're like, sorry, um,

586
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: we can't really lend to you anymore. And right now

587
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: he's got about half billion dollars in bills okay to

588
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: two lenders, most of it is owed to Deutsche Bank.

589
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: And you know he these these loans are guaranteed by

590
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: by Trump himself, being his personal assets could be at

591
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: stake if he defaults, So you love to see it.

592
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: You'll love to see it. I yeah, I mean Deutsche

593
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 1: Bank dropping out on him. I mean, I'm I'm glad.

594
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I honestly wasn't sure if that was ever going to

595
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: happen because they've been in business for so long at

596
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: this point. This is that was beautiful. It was beautiful

597
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah. The thing that I think is weird,

598
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: right because he only they estimated he's got maybe what

599
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty million in cash, So to make up

600
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: to that other three fifty that's going to require a

601
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: fire sale or some other dark shit. I don't like

602
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: if that means monetizing your knowledge of you know, being

603
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: in office and trying to sell that to people or whatever,

604
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: that means count on the good wheel, goodwill of Vladimir

605
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: Putin to I can't imagine you think this if he

606
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: thought the wires were tapped at Trump Tower, Oh yeah,

607
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. I don't think he can even

608
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: fart without fucking three feds like listening to relationship. So

609
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for him like a lb J style ex presidency.

610
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: LBJ like the day he left the office, was like

611
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna start smoking again, I'm gonna start

612
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: drinking heavily, and was like gone in you know, a

613
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: couple of years, just like couldn't couldn't hack it. And

614
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: like when you see pictures of him, he has like

615
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: long like a mullet and like long fingernails. Was just

616
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: like completely fell apart. Uh. Yeah. The other thing though,

617
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: just to dunk on him one last time, you know,

618
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: because I think we need to dunk on this fucking, shitty,

619
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: fucking guy as many times as possible. Um is his

620
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: legal troubles. Let's not forget the legal ship he's facing

621
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: New York. It's ugly. The New York Attorney General, Manhattan

622
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: d A. They're all looking into the Trump administration or

623
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: the Trump organization for tax shit. The Manhattan d A

624
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: is building a criminal case around that. Oh that's not pardonable. Um.

625
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: He also has death all the defamation lawsuits from the

626
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: sexual assaults he's been accused of. Let's not forget all

627
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: of that ship that. He doesn't have the henchman, the

628
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: agents of Fucory to delay this ship anymore. Like he's

629
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: just a regular violating piece of ship now. And he's exposed.

630
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: On top of that, the Washington d c. Attorney General

631
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: is looking into stuff around the inaugural committee and all

632
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: the financial ship that was going on there. Then the

633
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: attack on the Capitol. Okay, like that is another thing.

634
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: The fucking dominion voting machine stuff. Dominions suing him are

635
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: the dominions suing Sidney pal for a billion dollars. So

636
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: he is I don't the proper fucked, I think is

637
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Speaker 1: the word by all traditional measures. And you know what,

638
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I will say this, like I hope there is justice

639
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: or whatever at the very least him doing on my

640
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: pillow informercial where he plays van O White to Mike

641
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: Lindell pass a jack um, where he's like, it would

642
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: be so fitting that he becomes second fit of to somebody.

643
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Speaker 1: But I feel like you'll probably try to do his

644
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Speaker 1: own kind of shitty master class thing, you know, like

645
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: trying to pull one of those to be like, how

646
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: did I like, because he's done that five hundred times

647
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: and now he's got this whole another like level of

648
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: evil clout to um, you're getting how to destroy the

649
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: world master class. You know, things around the table people

650
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: have been so you know, like they fell for his

651
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Speaker 1: Trump University. There was like a guy there's an article

652
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Speaker 1: and Reuters the ap about someone who was grifted by

653
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: a guy Trump pardoned, who like he's like, but I

654
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: support the president and he pardoned the guy who took

655
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: my life savings. You're like, uh and yeah, I mean,

656
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: there does seem to be you know, obviously, like like

657
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: we were mentioning up top, like America full of systemic racism,

658
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: passive status quo, white supremacy. None of that is changing

659
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: without the hard, brutal work, you know, that's the status quo.

660
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: It takes pain to make that change. But in terms

661
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: of like the the racists who felt empowered and like

662
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: legitimized by the Trump presidency, there does seem like there's

663
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: like an a very immediate reaction of either crawling back

664
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: in their holes or being like but what what what happened?

665
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Like there? You know, there's still the people we we

666
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: talked about how Q isn't going anywhere. Q and on

667
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere. But there are like a lot of

668
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: posts from people in the Q forums who are like,

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00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's legitimately a post that says, huh, I

670
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: guess we were wrong. Like there the guy says, fun

671
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: this sham. I want to puke like it just I couldn't.

672
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop reading these screen caps from Q forums

673
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: of where's the damn storm? What happened? Why didn't the

674
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: plan work? The number one post on the Q and

675
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: On like their version of Reddit is just a guys

676
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: question work if it's also nice to see or like

677
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Speaker 1: kind of heartening to see that d platforming really like

678
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: it really does do something to properly d platform and

679
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's still I'll never get over how long

680
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: it took um all the social media billionaires to d

681
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: platform Trump. But it's like had an immediate effect. It

682
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: really has. It's and it's I mean, didn't what's his

683
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: name Watkins made a post as well, Who's Watkins? The

684
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 1: Ron Watkins, the guy who is cute? Yeah, yeah, and

685
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: he's just like, well then, like the vibe of the

686
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: boss was like Q and On was was it was

687
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: more about the friends we made actual major Q and

688
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: On Booster, who some suspected of being Q himself. Post

689
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Uh posted a note of resignation on his telegram channel

690
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: and his uh quote, we have a new president sworn in,

691
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: and it is our responsibility as citizens to respect the

692
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: Constitution as we enter into the next administration. Please remember

693
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: all the friends and happy memories we made together over

694
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: the past few years. What did piece of ship friends

695
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: we made around along the way. Yeah, but also now

696
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: to be like, let's let's respect the constitution. I don't

697
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: want any liability here. The words I'm saying is play

698
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: nice now, even though we were fucking gassing you all

699
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: up on this bullshit. I love also in that the

700
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: screen grab you have from that queue forum where someone

701
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: was like, do any and all federal agents browsing this website?

702
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Every post I have ever made is satire. They're doing that,

703
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: and they're doing that online craft. You may not use

704
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: my post to incriminate me. Uh. Not fair, not fair.

705
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: I am sovereign. There's just when you get a little

706
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: too let's get loud and then get bad. Uh, there's

707
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: a there's one section I just want to read word

708
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: for word. Well, I'm the official laughing stock of my family.

709
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: Now awesome. And then someone this is embarrassing. Here come

710
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: all excuses now. And then somebody was responding to a comment,

711
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: so where is the shock and awe? Question mark? And

712
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I guess this was like at eleven thirty, and this

713
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: person responded. Q also said noon exclamation point. I will

714
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: start kicking people, kicking people for their attitudes. We are patriots.

715
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: You stand here and hold the line with us or

716
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: you can leave your choice. Uh and Noon came and

717
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: went and it went fart he was not heard from.

718
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Uh let's and then the final one in that is, OMG,

719
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: none of this was real. I mean, you know what

720
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: they if you have somebody that is willing to own

721
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: up that they came this far and it didn't happen. Um,

722
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe she's like, okay, so do you want

723
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: to talk about how do you want to make amends?

724
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: Now that's the thing I'm trying to figure out, right

725
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: because if clearly there are people who are like truly

726
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: or like what the fuck I played myself there? I

727
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: feel like there has to be a way to, like,

728
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: you want to capitalize on that energy to try and

729
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: get people to return to the information age on some level.

730
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: But Jesus, I do want to just play this one

731
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: thing of this Q and on guy who's so disappointed

732
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: at noon who is posting and just like come on, guys, like,

733
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: let's just to stay together. Well, patriots, we're all probably

734
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: doing the same thing watching this inauguration. You know, we've

735
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: been told to watch it carefully because a lot of

736
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: it could be nonsense, fake. Um, you know, only time

737
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: will tell, but you know, Simon Scott McKay, they've all

738
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: told us that this thing has to go all the

739
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: way through for it to be completed. The inauguration before

740
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: makes a move. So I think we're all sitting here waiting,

741
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: waiting for something to happen. I don't think this is

742
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: over yet, fellas, guys and girls inclusive. What about the

743
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: non binary que people? Know, okay, just making sure we're

744
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: que stands on that, alright, ladies and a gentleman. But wow,

745
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: they were yeah, they were really. The goal posts were shifting,

746
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: and like there were some other people on Twitter who

747
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: were monitoring in real time showing that they're like there

748
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: was a there was like a very distinct moment at

749
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: noon where a couple of people tried to push the

750
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: goalposts even further and people like, no, fuck this, and

751
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: like I started devouring the fucking like the thread. Don't

752
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: worry about it. He's just running late military precision by as.

753
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I do wonder like if there's there, like there's a

754
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: clear need to like do some mass de radicalization, especially

755
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: for people who are newly um saying like, holy shit,

756
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: everything that I have been like burning every bridge in

757
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: my life and giving into every prejudice I've ever had

758
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: was based on this gigantic lie. And it's like, I mean,

759
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. I wonder if there will be

760
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: some sort of figure or ideology that emerges that is

761
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: actually helpful in de radicalizing. I don't I don't know.

762
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: It's so like, what what is gonna what are which

763
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: direction are are these people gonna go? Right there? Does

764
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: seem like some of the institutions are losing momentum, Like

765
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: even Fox News is now like it's always way out

766
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: in front, first in the ratings, and now it's lagging.

767
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: It's third ever since the election. I think just the

768
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: fact that they don't have a coherent truth they can

769
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: kind of rally behind, like there, uh, the news part

770
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: of their reporting, like the stuff that happens during the

771
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: day just now completely contradicts the stuff that they're saying

772
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: at night. Um. Tucker Carlson is usually way out front,

773
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: number one in the ratings, he's now like fourth. Um.

774
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that you're you're seeing even like

775
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: pulling shift around about pent of Republicans say they approve

776
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: of conviction in the latest poll, uh conviction of Donald

777
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: Trump in the in the Senate, which is an increase

778
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: from fourteen percent of Republicans saying that just like a

779
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: week before. And that's that's you know, the fact that

780
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: it's moving in that direction as we get further away

781
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: from the event is I think somewhat significant, right, Yeah,

782
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's you'd hope. And that's probably like the

783
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: self preservation mechanism of a lot of these fucking ghouls

784
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: who are just absolute monsters the last couple of years,

785
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm gonna lean hard into this thing

786
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: and then maybe that will absolve me, or at least

787
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 1: people will weigh that against you know that all the

788
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: dumb shit I did because like we have this weird

789
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: thing in America too, or like you could have a

790
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: lifetime of being racist, but you could be like, no,

791
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: you know what, I think black lives matter, and suddenly

792
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: it's if it completely erased your history or like how

793
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: you've spoken about things. Not that people can change. But

794
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly

795
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm on this side, to try and

796
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: appear like you have been correct, and I maybe there's

797
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: that and maybe we just benefit from that that they

798
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: just they so badly want to hide their own sins

799
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: that they they're just like sucking all vote for impeachment. Yeah,

800
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: but then we will continue to pretend. I'm sure a

801
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: lot of people continue to pretend or treat those their

802
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: fellow senators Congress people like oh, that was so great

803
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: of you to do that, even though like you raw

804
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: rod the insurrection and we almost all got got that's

805
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, then that's what's so infuriating about the unity

806
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: message that's being made literally two weeks after a violent insurrection,

807
00:49:54,320 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: like fuck off you know off? Um yeah, that's never

808
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: not going to be fucking infuriating. Guys, hug this weed

809
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: whacker that's on real close to your face. It's the

810
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: weed whacker. Unity with it. No, it's fun. No, No,

811
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: they turn it off or take the gas out and

812
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: then maybe we can talk, right. Yeah, it's it's so frustrating,

813
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's so frustrating to have like

814
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: people in your life who were like, why aren't you like,

815
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: come on, let's all, let's all hold hands, like it's

816
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. It's like that's not that's not two

817
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: weeks later language period, like if um, yeah, I need

818
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: to I need to check in with my family member

819
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: who went QUE and stopped talking to all of us.

820
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: I wonder how she's doing today. Yeah. I mean there

821
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: were people who are like on like extremism Twitter, and

822
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, if if someone reaches out to

823
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: you who went Q and tries to come back, like

824
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 1: trying maybe make it, if if it feels sincere, maybe

825
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: you have a chance at it. But you never. But

826
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: it's like, it's weird now that we're also finding, you know,

827
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: trying to find like our empathy for these people who

828
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: are completely lied to, but but the fallout of their

829
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: misinformation diet was translating into direct violence. It's it's all

830
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: like a very fucking weird. It feels like a fucking

831
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 1: comic book where like like a Damon Lindeloff show or

832
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: like we're having an out deal with all these people

833
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: who are like wearing white all the time and not

834
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,399
Speaker 1: talking and smoking cigarettes. I'm like, okay, hey, um, you've

835
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: done black pilling a second, let's be happy. I don't

836
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: know who how do we? How do I do this?

837
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: It's hard? Yeah, it's it's hard because you it's it's

838
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: like it feels like basically impossible to it's it seems like, okay,

839
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'm off here, but just the way even the

840
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: tone of like the embarrassing messages on those forums is like, oh,

841
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: we were wrong, so like sorry are bad? Forgive us

842
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: right away, and it's like that can't be how it goes.

843
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: But then like how do you access your empathy to

844
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: like they? But it's like it's I don't know, just

845
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: the expectation of like, oh, whoop, sees, I have been

846
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: part of a violent desk gult for four years and

847
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: saying the most fucked up ship you can imagine and

848
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: believing it and now whoops, I'm sorry, so you have

849
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: to forgive me right away or I said it was wrong,

850
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, it just feels like I don't know

851
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: it just like forgive me, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah,

852
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know. Yeah, it's early doors process,

853
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: it's early doors. It's only fucking I D plus one,

854
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: so you know, guaranteed everyone's feelings are going to change

855
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, I mean, I just think of

856
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: how much things have shifted since the sixth of like

857
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: our understanding of everything, like what the funk to like,

858
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:55,879
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so putrid so yeah, we'll see.

859
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see a lot of journalists on

860
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: Twitter right now who are like, if you've got cute

861
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: relative of uh and you've checked it on, hit me up,

862
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: trying to write an article on this right now. I

863
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: think that's like every journalist is trying to New York

864
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Times wants to go to a Q diner to check

865
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: in with all the Trump supporters. Can't wait for that

866
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: episode of The Daily Yeah, we went to a que diner.

867
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: It's like just or just don't. And they had some

868
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts, they had some pretty good ideas. They just

869
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: wanted better efficient government. And it turns out that they're

870
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: actually really sorry, yes, very sorry. Sorry. All right, let's

871
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. And

872
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: we're back, and in the theme of dealing with having

873
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: stepped in ship and trying to you know, clean it off,

874
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: we come to the story of Army Hammer, who has

875
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: been in the headlines. You know, there's a lot of

876
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: sensationalist headlines about him being a cannibal and uh. But

877
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: it also seems like the more you dig into it,

878
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 1: the more it's a story of just a straight up abuser. Um.

879
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: And so we are joined by superproducer on A. Hosni,

880
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: who has been digging into this. Uh and yeah, Anna welcome.

881
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: First of all, Hi, thanks for having me. Great to

882
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: have you here. I say that as if I'm not

883
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: always just sitting here. Yeah, the first time a long time. Yeah. So,

884
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: I mean this is one that we you know, first

885
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: it first started hitting, was trending on social media a

886
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: while back, but we wanted to do some research figure

887
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: out what exactly was happening. Um. And it was something

888
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: that popped up for you because you were already following

889
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: the woman who came forward with the screen caps right

890
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: of her. No. So I was following Armie Hammer on Instagram,

891
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: and you know, I started to see all this stuff

892
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: come out about him on Twitter where people were saying,

893
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's a cannibal and whatnot. And I was like, what, like,

894
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: what a what a weird thing to be accused of.

895
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going I'm gonna look into it.

896
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: I was. I was genuinely curious. I was like, is

897
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: this person at cannibal like what he seems? So? And

898
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: I had to say, he see, he seems very bland

899
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, I don't know exactly when I started

900
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: following him on Instagram just at some point um, and

901
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,919
Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm I want to know more

902
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: and I want to understand why all these people are

903
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: talking about this. So I went deep. I went very deep.

904
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: I went so deep that I I there were a

905
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: few nights I struggled to sleep because of how much

906
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: I read into this, Because at first it comes off

907
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: as this like joke on Twitter of like ha, he's

908
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: a cannibal, he can eat me, like all this stuff,

909
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: of like he's so hot. I have no problem with that,

910
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, you know, there's always some baseline

911
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: that this is this is working from. So like I

912
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: was like, I need to understand that further, and I

913
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: to understand like are these jokes appropriate? Like I truly

914
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: didn't know how I felt about them. You know, I

915
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: started looking further at the screenshots. I looked more at

916
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: the hashtags of his name on Twitter and on Instagram,

917
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: and that took me to this woman's Twitter at House

918
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: of Fi. Fi is e f f I E so

919
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: house of Fi. I recommend following her yourself if you

920
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: need to also go down this hole. It is very dark.

921
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 1: Let me just warn you beforehand. And so I started

922
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: following her, and she is the original person who accused

923
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: him of not necessarily being a cannibal. That was just

924
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: what he called himself in a screenshot he at one

925
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: point where I'm houn to percent a cannibal. But she's

926
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: the first one who accused him of basically creating an

927
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: environment that led to her abuse by him. So she

928
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,479
Speaker 1: came out. She was of course attacked by people who

929
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: um follow and support him by like posting screenshots saying

930
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: that she's lying and all this stuff that she admitted

931
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: to lying, but I guess there was just a lot

932
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: of like photoshop work done to attack her further for

933
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: coming out to talk about this abuse. But if you

934
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: go and follow her on Instagram, which I did to

935
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: further kind of understand what was happening. And you know,

936
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I I have a my first instinct, you have to

937
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: believe the women, like I'm sorry, you know, you might

938
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: see this person that you thought has been so bland

939
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: your whole life and just like an actor who does

940
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: interesting roles. But I feel like now more than ever,

941
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: we've learned people are not who they appear to be.

942
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to diagnose him. I don't know

943
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: what's going on with him. He does seem to have

944
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: a lack of care of the situation, like he has

945
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: come out and called all these accusations bullshit. But it

946
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: appears that Armie Hammer has a UM. He's into a

947
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: kink known as c n C which is consensual non consent,

948
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: and so he likes to engage in, you know, dom

949
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: submissive relationships with women who um, I believe at the

950
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: time are consenting to be in a relationship with him

951
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: because he is who he is and he is very charming,

952
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: and that unfortunately led to a bunch of women um

953
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: being manipulated, gas lit and abused by him. And I

954
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: know I'm not saying I'm not I'm not king shaming.

955
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: C n C play it's also known as rape play.

956
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: If if both parties are consenting to this, there is

957
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. That is their business. It's not

958
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: our business to judge them for having this kink that

959
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: they like to take part in. It is what it is.

960
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: People enjoy certain things and they get off on certain

961
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: things and situations like this too, it like ends up

962
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: harming those entire communities and attacking like further stigmatic in

963
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: communities for people who are like doing it safely and

964
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: with consent and not fucking power trip. Right. So the

965
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: problem with Armie Hammer that we learn in this screen,

966
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: in these screenshots is he does not use safe words,

967
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: which I've read further is if someone asks you to

968
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: take part in something like this this sort of kink

969
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: and does not allow you to have a safe word,

970
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: huge red flag because you need to be able to

971
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: protect yourself and you need your boundary set. It can

972
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 1: lead to places that you can get hurt. You have

973
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: to be able to say no and have the other

974
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: person here you. So he does not work with safe words.

975
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: He also did not provide much after care for these women,

976
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm going to get a little graphic.

977
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: This included putting a belt around their neck and clasping it,

978
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, cutting them with knives and sucking their blood

979
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: like very cannibalistic things that have been you know, like

980
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: dropped out because of like the media loves to pick

981
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: these little nug gets. Like one of his ex girlfriends.

982
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: She's an app founder the flash d app. I'm not

983
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: really that familiar with the app, Courtney Vussakovic. She came

984
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: out and talked to Page six about her relationship with

985
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: Armie Hammer Um and how it basically led her having

986
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: to go into a program for PTSD and trauma after

987
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: dating him because it was just such an unhealthy, toxic relationship.

988
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: The headline of her article said that he wanted to

989
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: barbecue and eat me. That's missing the point, Like there

990
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: was serious abuse going on, and that's what the mainstream

991
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: media picked up, you know, so like a lot of

992
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: that is happening, and we need to really focus in

993
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: on the actual abuse, the gas lighting, the manipulation, um,

994
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: the lack of care for these women that he's engaging in.

995
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: The CNC play with and house of Effie is the

996
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: one who kind of she came out and kind of

997
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: spearheaded this conversation, but many women have reached out to her,

998
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 1: and she's posted a lot of anonymous screenshots of other women.

999
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: So it looks like there is a giant group of women,

1000
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: most of them who are too afraid to come out

1001
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: due to the fact that there is, you know, an

1002
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: a power dynamic of Army Hammer being an actor and

1003
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: having power and having a group of people working for

1004
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: him to try and silence these accusations. So if you

1005
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: don't take our word for it, because you're like, I

1006
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: don't know, he seems this this or that. I don't know,

1007
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, like go go look at it yourself, Like

1008
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: when there are hundreds of screenshots telling you this person

1009
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: is abusing these women, I mean, I don't know. Like

1010
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: to me, it's pretty clear cut, like this man is

1011
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: an abuser. He's a serial abuser. There's many women have

1012
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: come forward. A lot of them have spoken out about

1013
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: the trauma they experience in the fact that they would

1014
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: have to go to the e R to deal with

1015
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: certain situations that he put them in, and the fact

1016
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: that he only commented on one thing, which is this

1017
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: is bullshit. I will not take these accusations seriously, Like

1018
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then now it's like the the

1019
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 1: the narrative is kind of me back around to him

1020
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: giving this half ast apology, and it seems like the

1021
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: only thing he's really going to be taken to account

1022
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: for is dropping out of a fucking rom com. Like

1023
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: it's even I especially I find the yeah, the media

1024
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: angles that this has taken to be ridiculous, Like as

1025
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: frustrating as it is to see the cannibal memes and

1026
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: all this ship, it's like it's because of the headlines

1027
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: that are being written, like no one is reading these

1028
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: entire stories, and the fact that you are pulling out

1029
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: the most shocking thing about it and ignoring the fact

1030
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: that this is not funny. This is and I think

1031
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: that Army Hammer benefits from people doing it, from people

1032
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: making it like what a weird guy, why would you

1033
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: do this, instead of saying like Army Hammer has been

1034
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: incredibly accused of horrific abuse, Like it's all the headlines

1035
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: that you read, even when you google his name is

1036
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: all just like end those horrific d ms. It's like

1037
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: that's where they just sort of ice a late that

1038
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, he's on the loose with the d

1039
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: m s and yeah, completely. I don't know if that's

1040
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: the strength of coming from a you know, dynastic wealthy family,

1041
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: although I don't know he doesn't have access to that

1042
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: money anymore, but like or that machine of just like

1043
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: because it's almost like you like what you're saying. You

1044
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: look at him, and we have this media fed like

1045
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: idea that like the blonde haired, blue eyed white man

1046
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: is virtuous and like there's a lot of hurdles to

1047
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: get over to be like that guy is actually just

1048
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: just uh um, perpetrating heinous abuse. Yeah, but yeah, I

1049
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what it's going to

1050
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: take for the conversation to change. It's almost like the

1051
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: cannibal thing is working on the same level he was

1052
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: working on to like kind of smoke screen his abuse,

1053
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: where like the idea of Kank and b D s

1054
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: M is a screen and that's like the story focuses

1055
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: on the cannibal ism and not the fact that women

1056
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: who were in relationships with him said they were abusive relationships,

1057
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: and like that's kind of how he was working where

1058
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm just like a kicky guy

1059
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: who is into these like very specific types of arrangements,

1060
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, that's how you are screening, probably

1061
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: from yourself and from others the fact that you're an abuser.

1062
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Like this GQ headline sums up the inability of like

1063
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: men to hold each other accountable. I mean, assuming you

1064
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: know Gentlemen's Quarterly, But like the headline is army Hammer

1065
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: cannibalism allegations. How common is a cannibalism fetish? Which is

1066
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 1: like so besides the point, it's still such a thing

1067
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: where it's the way that these stories, like I it's

1068
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: going back to what you're saying, and it's just like

1069
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: who who are we believing and why are we believing

1070
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: them versus why aren't we believing other victims? And what

1071
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: does that say about like where we're at in terms

1072
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: of actually believing victims of abuse. And it seems like

1073
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: part of the reason no one was believing um house

1074
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: of Effi at the first at first is because she

1075
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: didn't have any power and no one knew who she was,

1076
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 1: and so it was very easy, especially when it's someone

1077
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a ton of cloud and power. That

1078
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 1: seems to be one of the only ways to really

1079
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: get your story out in a meaningful way. And I

1080
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: find that so fucking bleak because it's like, here are

1081
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: a ton of women who have credible, you know, accusations

1082
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: against this guy, but none of them are, you know,

1083
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: have a ton of power. And and you always see

1084
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: these kind of contrarians being like, well then why didn't

1085
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: they like bring it to the media, white like, for

1086
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: all we know they fucking did. It is so hard

1087
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: to get stories like that reported. There are so many

1088
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: stories about famous men that have almost gotten reported and

1089
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: then they get pulled at the last second for whatever

1090
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: fucking reason. And I feel like, especially after, like it

1091
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: was so upsetting, but all so um, I don't when

1092
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: when FKA Twigs came out against shy Ala buff like

1093
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: last month, that was a huge thing and and and

1094
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: I think it certainly helped that she had some power

1095
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: in that situation. She she you know, people listen to

1096
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: what she said because she has a certain amount of

1097
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: cloud and she has a certain amount of people who

1098
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: are going to listen to what she has to say.

1099
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think that that is always extended to

1100
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: just normal people who are like so often the victims

1101
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: of abuse. I just fucking hate it, man, Like, if

1102
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: you ever have the thought in your head, like why

1103
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: didn't they just bring it to the media, it's because

1104
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: it's fucking impossible. It's literally fucking impossible. As someone who

1105
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: has tried time and time again to get stories like

1106
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: this broken, it is, it's it's a miracle when it

1107
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 1: actually happens. So yeah, it is so Also another big

1108
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: thing is like when people say why didn't they leave,

1109
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: why didn't they stop? It's not simple like that. Yeah,

1110
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: you're you're talking out of person who aid on Also younger,

1111
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: more vulnerable people, Like when you're stuck in this sort

1112
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: of toxic relationship, it's not like it's not easy. There's

1113
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: nothing easy about it. It's not so black and white,

1114
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: like you can't just be like, I don't know, that

1115
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: may be uncomfortable. I'm out. Some people might be able to,

1116
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: but some people cannot. So you have to respect that

1117
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: they're in their own position trying to figure something out.

1118
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: And it looked like it took the House of Effie

1119
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: years to come out about this, years to try and

1120
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: discuss this, and I think a lot of the women

1121
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: still feel like they can't come out about it because

1122
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: they're so scared, because the power dynamics are so unbalanced,

1123
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: Like you can't, I don't know. You can't blame these

1124
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: people for, you know, not being able to get out

1125
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,959
Speaker 1: of a toxic situation on top of them, you can't

1126
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: on top of that, you can't blame them for not

1127
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: being able to come forward sooner the second it happened.

1128
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you're you're putting in an impossible

1129
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: situation and it takes a lot of strength to put

1130
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: yourself forward. Like House of Effie did um. We don't

1131
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: know this woman like we don't know her name exactly,

1132
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 1: Like she is keeping herself private for a reason while

1133
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: at the same time being followed by almost seventy people,

1134
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: and yet this is still not mainstream news. Seventy people

1135
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 1: are reading what she's writing and following her, and yet

1136
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: still not mainstream news. It's just something about how like

1137
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: he's got a fetish Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just like,

1138
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: I mean, these headlines I feel like just say everything

1139
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: about like, well is this you know, I hope that

1140
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: this story continues to get like actually responsibly covered, but

1141
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: so far there's just fucking I think it's you know,

1142
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: we have these sort of inabilities to describe things as

1143
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: they are. We have a media apparatus that isn't equipped

1144
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: to talk about consent, to talk about abuse, to talk

1145
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: about white supremacy, to talk about a lot of these things.

1146
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: So like it ends up and it's like, oh, some

1147
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: charged language from the president because you don't you don't

1148
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 1: have the actual critical thinking or the experience to look

1149
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: at it and say, oh, no, this is I need

1150
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,480
Speaker 1: to describe this as it is rather than like euphemistically,

1151
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: because there's a pattern, I guess in the culture of

1152
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: like reporting on these things in this country to be

1153
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: very euphemistic and yeah, like it's the like the balance

1154
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: of headlines that are actually you can tell they're trying

1155
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: to indicate like their elements of abuse allegations in this

1156
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: story that actually need to be looked at, and ones

1157
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: that are like whoa like wild man Army Hammer admits

1158
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: to secret Instagram account that's two days ago, you know

1159
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's weird because this a lot

1160
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: of these are also coming from like the tabloids who

1161
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: like we're loving him before, you know what I mean, Like, oh,

1162
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: look at him, he's like wow, bla, we love picturesque

1163
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: family that you can tell like they're it's like they're

1164
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: having trouble putting this person down or like understanding how

1165
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: severe the situation is versus just pivoting to like the

1166
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: easy headline that sort of ignores how serious something is. Yeah,

1167
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: and I also just want to say to me, like

1168
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: the most telling thing is just kind of the lack

1169
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: of shame coming from him, like he all these screenshots

1170
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: were looking at their from his verified Instagram account. He

1171
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: doesn't care, like he's I don't know what his situation is. Again,

1172
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to diagnose this guy. I'm just saying,

1173
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: like his actions are also very telling to me, like

1174
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: he's just kind of acting like, well shit, And to me,

1175
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, if I was accused of abusing someone

1176
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: and I look, who knows how how i'd react, but

1177
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: I would react. I don't know. Like to me, it

1178
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,600
Speaker 1: feels like I don't know what this guy's deal is,

1179
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 1: but it feels so flippant the way he's acting about it.

1180
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: And that's like and I'm truly going off what I've

1181
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: read in the tabloids of how people have been seeing

1182
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: him acting. So I don't Again, I don't know anything.

1183
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: But like to me, it's like that's that's not good.

1184
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have someone who's so like that's a scary thing,

1185
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: Like that's a scary person to be out on the streets,

1186
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: like to me in my opinion, because like it makes

1187
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 1: me incredibly uncomfortable. Again, like I told you, when I

1188
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: first dive deep into this, it fucked me up. You

1189
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: you just you you feel like you just never know

1190
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: who people are. And this situation just has scared me

1191
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: in a way of like who are these people hiding

1192
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: in plain sight? And we should be more diligent and

1193
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: pointing out abuse like this because we need to protect people,

1194
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: and we need to protect women who again women we

1195
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: get murdered by men. Like it's not even a joke

1196
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 1: like this that we don't know what could have possibly

1197
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,480
Speaker 1: happened between Army and these women. We don't know anything.

1198
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: There could be women who are so truly abused that

1199
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: cannot speak out, Like I feel like this is there's

1200
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 1: this is just like truly the tip of the iceberg

1201
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: in my eyes, Like I hope more women can come out,

1202
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: but it's a dark place. And I just also want

1203
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: to point out when you are tweeting this kind of

1204
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: stuff of like he can eat me, Like you're doing

1205
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: that in spite of these women who suffered abuse from him,

1206
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: So just think about that before you just call him

1207
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: accounibal and try and laugh about it, because like I

1208
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what these women are going through. And

1209
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: how like much of a meme this turned into, like yeah,

1210
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, I've been deep guys, and uh, I

1211
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: just want this to be taken seriously. Yeah, And it's

1212
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: also like a very harsh reminder that there that there

1213
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: are only certain kinds of victims of abuse who are

1214
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 1: made space for in the media, and even that is new,

1215
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: like having space for victims of abuse at all, but

1216
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: this story just clearly indicates that there is not you

1217
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: know that there it's I feel like there's just still

1218
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: a lot of attention given to quote unquote the perfect

1219
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: victim and there that's not how it works, That's not

1220
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 1: how the majority of abuse goes. And just like educate

1221
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 1: yourself on this ship because this, like this media narrative

1222
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: is helping to really just army or his career should

1223
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: be fucking over, but all he had to do is

1224
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: drop out of a single movie, Like it's it if

1225
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 1: his career rebounds from this I'm fucking joke or flying

1226
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: um Yeah, yeah, I mean that that also goes back

1227
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: to kind of one of the like just the amount

1228
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: of incentive that is there for you know, each each

1229
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: actor at this level is kind of their own like

1230
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: corporation that has like people whose entire job is to

1231
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: make sure they get that next role so they can

1232
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: get like, uh, their next paycheck, and so they're you know,

1233
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 1: I think one of the tweets was, yeah, and then

1234
01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: he benefits from the most nepotism, Yeah person can benefit from,

1235
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: right he is Yeah, he comes from generational wealth. He

1236
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: comes from that whole like level of privilege and just

1237
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 1: removal from any sorts of consequences or the reality that

1238
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: the rest of us deal with. Um, he's a six

1239
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: four like good looking guys, so he has that going

1240
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: like that against his ability to experience reality. And then

1241
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: he has an entire you know, a company of people

1242
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: around him who are working around the clock to make

1243
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: sure that he is marketable. So like, it's just the

1244
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: levels are incredible. Uh, and yeah, thank you an A

1245
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: for you know, doing the research and coming on. Of course,

1246
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 1: I want to had one thing now, you know, after

1247
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: having watched Call Me by Your Name and really thinking

1248
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: about it in retrospect, it does come off as a

1249
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: movie that is about grooming and for be a young

1250
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: man to be the like love interest of this older man.

1251
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know, these things are not sitting right

1252
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: with me anymore now that I'm making all these connections.

1253
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't like this, and I think we need to

1254
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: pay attention to that. I mean to pay attention to

1255
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: the work they're making and be like, well, what's going

1256
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: on here? Because like I'm just saying, we need to

1257
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: be asking questions even when your army hammer. You don't

1258
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: just get away with it. There has to be a

1259
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: ton of complicitness going on around you, um, in order

1260
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 1: for things to stay quiet this long. Like it's yeah,

1261
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 1: are so depressing because you just you know that there's

1262
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: just so many of these stories that literally cannot get

1263
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: out because of the systems that, um that kind of

1264
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: keep victims oppressed or keep them scared. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,

1265
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: whould have thought the great grandson of a guy who

1266
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: is just blowing up the coal, just making a bunch

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Speaker 1: of coal, pumping gas like friends with Al Gore's dad. Uh, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know, like leads to a culture where I guess,

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Speaker 1: like it's it. There's like there's funnels for a lot

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Speaker 1: of these people to end up like the way they are.

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Speaker 1: But like when you look at this, you're like this

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Speaker 1: just looks you know, when there are people who walk

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Speaker 1: around here thinking they can do whatever the funk they want,

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01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: and they're they're in environments where they see that there

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Speaker 1: are very little consequences for their actions, and then it

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: gets to places like this too. And also just like

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Speaker 1: you're saying, and there's also just a lack of accountability

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Speaker 1: with other people who are again don't want to rock

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: the boat or whatever. But at the end of the day,

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01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're putting someone else at risks

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01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: just to save yourself the discomfort of saying what's right

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Speaker 1: or or actually protecting somebody. Yeah, they think they can

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01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: get away with it, and for centuries they have literally

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Speaker 1: and even I mean especially with like I guarantee, if

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Speaker 1: he gets called out on this, which he probably won't,

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01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: he will say, I'm sorry, make a donation, call it

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01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: a day, and not change his behavior because that's just

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Speaker 1: how people fucking work. That's like every person who worked

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Speaker 1: with Woody Allen in the last you know, five to

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Speaker 1: ten fucking years, if they get called out on it

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, ops, my bad, I'm so oh you noticed,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna give you know, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to this place, and then, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to answer and I don't need to

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01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,839
Speaker 1: think about this critically, just like ah saw that, huh,

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: like you fucking knew when you worked with you know,

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01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: Woody Allen in you fucking ship head, Like it just

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01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 1: is so the the level of disingenuousness. It's not shocking,

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Speaker 1: but it's just sometimes it's so playgrant. It's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah on a where can people find you? Follow you? Here?

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Speaker 1: You all that good stuff. Um, I'm at Anna host

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01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: n A on Twitter. But again, if you want to, um,

1303
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 1: learn more about what's going on. But it's very serious

1304
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,800
Speaker 1: trigger warning. This is very very dark subject matter. You

1305
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: can follow at House of f E that's E F

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Speaker 1: f I E on Instagram. Just request you will. You

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01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: will learn a lot about what's going on. And uh yeah,

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 1: just you know, remember to believe women. Okay, just believe women.

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: A lot happens behind closed doors, and this the way

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01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: we react to it is why people do or don't

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01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: speak out to talk about their own abuse. So it's

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01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: very important to give space. And I know it sounds

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: like very therapy talk, but it is. We have to

1314
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: give space for these kind of things, not therapy. It's

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:25,519
Speaker 1: just like I need people to feel comfortable speak out

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01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: about their abuse. So but also therapy for society too. Yes,

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: we do need therapy. I guess all the same thing. Jamie,

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Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you? You can

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter dot com at Jamie Loftus help Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar and listen to Lialia podcast. Yeah, uh,

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Speaker 1: where is there a tweeter some of the work of

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Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, there are two inauguration

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Speaker 1: tweets that I like to The first one I was

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Speaker 1: Julio Taurus who said, uh, he's quoting Amy Klovichar. Uh,

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Speaker 1: well that was great Amy Klovichar, right after j LO saying,

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Speaker 1: which it did fully happen. And then this one, this

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01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: is hard to describe, but it's okay. This is from

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Speaker 1: Sarah Camplin. Uh. It's a picture of her cat as

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Speaker 1: j LO saying let's get loud and the cat wakes up.

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Speaker 1: I'd hope it's really funny. Let's get loud. Really Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know it's sustained. It really sustained me. And let's

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Speaker 1: get loud everybody. I mean, yes, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is, whatever that means to you, Let's get loud.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love a vague platitude. Anyways, those are my tweets.

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Speaker 1: Miles where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter,

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Uh. Also for fiance a

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Speaker 1: four some ninety day talk. Some tweets that I like

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Speaker 1: one is from the at Q and on Anonymous from

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Speaker 1: the Q and on Anonymous podcast, they tuted I trusted

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Speaker 1: the plan and all I got was this stupid feeling. Yeah,

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01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 1: you know you hate to see it. Also, another one

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Speaker 1: is from at Out from the Zone. It's a picture

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Speaker 1: because you know, Lady Gaga and j Lo like greeted

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Speaker 1: the National Guard like on their way into the Capitol,

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: just you know, to make nice and stuff like that.

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01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: But there's this photo where like it's Lady Gaga like

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Speaker 1: in her very like this cool white thing. It's not

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Speaker 1: like her the dress you war to sing. It's got

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Speaker 1: some like white cape code on standing upright, and there's

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Speaker 1: like these soldiers like like right across from her. And

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Speaker 1: the caption is find Brittney Spears free her like this

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Speaker 1: like they are like, yes, okay, thank you, Lady Gaga.

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Speaker 1: Will I had one? I had that same picture, Bring

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Speaker 1: the National Guards done this year right that that picture

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Speaker 1: caption by Mike Tag Find Madonna bring her to me. Everyone.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's gotta take on that one. Uh. I'll just I

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Speaker 1: liked Brendan o'har's tweet Biden finds left behind baron Trump

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Speaker 1: wandering the White Hall, White house Halls. Hey man, that's all. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1361
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, we have Facebook fan

1362
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 1: page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist dot com, where we

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Speaker 1: post our episode, then our foot nope or lick off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on miles,

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Speaker 1: What are we riding into this post world? Too much pressure?

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: Time to roll up? You know that fucking pack Let

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Speaker 1: him know, goodbye, good raidings, rolled up your career. This

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Speaker 1: track is called rolled Up from Many Sings in Mac

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Speaker 1: DeMarco and it's just nice and easy. Just put it on.

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Speaker 1: Do what you ever, do what you do to relax,

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Speaker 1: you know, rub your own feet, rub your partner's feet, uh,

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: sip of something, but yeah, just take a fucking deep breath, y'all. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It was what an awful, awful period. And for those

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Speaker 1: of y'all who got more focused on what is happening

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01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: in our world, thank you, because the more people that

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Speaker 1: are doing that, it will help ensure a better outcome

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: for all people. So uh, take a deep breath, and

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Speaker 1: well keep on, keep it on, really right? Hey, are

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Speaker 1: you gonna go bold? I'm gonna go extremely bold. Yeah,

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01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: where they put I'm gonna dare I say, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get loud. That's all you're gonna say. You're just gonna

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01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: get to the ordering windows, say let's get loud, and

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Speaker 1: they're just they're like say less. All right, all right,

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Speaker 1: The Daily Ze guys to the production of My Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts for My Heart Radio, visit the heart

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Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for this morning. We are back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you all then Bye bye. Roll down, dost down, trying

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Speaker 1: to understand why my hold up, lockdown, shutting help down.

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Speaker 1: There you are all. I got a baby Chad this

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Speaker 1: night