1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Johnny brod to here friendly neighborhood moderator for Potter Rebellion. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Here comes part two of our chat with Deep Bradley 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Baker Enjoy. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 3: I don't know thinking about it for me, if I 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: was coming in, I would already it would already be 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: daunting to do more than one character, but I would 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: probably be like, can I just do it? Passes this character, 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: then it passes this character? You were doing scenes because 10 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 3: I also watched that third episode of the second season, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 3: and I didn't realize how back to back it was 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: you if I mean my memory is correct, you just 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: went through it on your own, and yet no I 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: got it, like I can I can swap between it. 15 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 4: It was like, I mean, you were you were just 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: having a conversation with yourself a whole time. But it 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 4: was unbelievable how there was like a nuance to what 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 4: you were bringing to each character, but you were switching 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: in and out of it, Like I mean, the closest 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: seener is this Andrew Scott Uncle Vanya thing where he's 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: playing all the characters of buckle Van. Yeah, but he's 22 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: it's just as soon as you want to drop the 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 4: others picked up and it's not missing a second and 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: you were doing the same thing, which was it was 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 4: very cool for me to watch. 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, it's it's it's just if you see the 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: characters in their full specificity, then it's just like an 28 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 5: old television dial where you just just snap between one 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 5: and the other and they're because they're different people, and 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 5: that's that's it's, it's it's it seems more of a 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: magic trick with the Clones because they they look more 32 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 5: similar and they seem more similar visually as opposed to 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: like the Bad Batch, which you know, they look very 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: different and and so yeah, I mean, my the the 35 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 5: thing that's that that it hinges upon is that I 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 5: have to see them as different people and they have 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: to have a different character, a different tone, a dynamic 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 5: that I can just jump to whatever part of the 39 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 5: dynamic is is talking right now. And it's it's actually 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 5: a little a little more nuanced and trickier with just 41 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 5: with with Clones, with REGs as opposed to the Bad Batch, 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 5: which it's actually easier with the Bad Batch because they're 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: they're more distinct from each other. It's actually easier to 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 5: jump there. 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so interesting. So with that, like, how how 46 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: do you keep track of all that? Because I know 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: the bad batch, like you know visually, like what record 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: would sound like, what he what tech would sound like, 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: what echo would sound like? But then what the rags 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: as you just alluded to, because those physical similarities are 51 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, they're all physically similar. How did you keep 52 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: track of all that as you're literally voicing all of 53 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: the clones? 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 5: Well, it starts with a good script and and and 55 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 5: the characters, and the dynamic is there of what's playing out. 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 5: And then the thing that you learn as a voice 57 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 5: actor is that you're not reading words. You're playing a 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 5: movie in your mind and bringing that to life. And 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 5: so for me, the way it feels is that I'm 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 5: watching the movie or I'm doing different runs at scenes, 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 5: but I can see it. And because I can see it, 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 5: I can just I can jump from that character to 63 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 5: this other character. It's not it's not about words or 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: or vocal placement or anything like that, even though that's involved. 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: But the way it plays out for me as an 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: actor is I can see it, and and it's like 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 5: with it, it's the same with doing something like like 68 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: with an animal where they don't know what this creature 69 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 5: looks like or sounds like, but they can tell me 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: what it's doing, and I can imagine. I've got the 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 5: rest of the scene there, and so I'm it's like i'm, i'm, I'm, 72 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 5: I'm projecting it and then performing along with the movement 73 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: and the behavior and the acting that needs to that 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 5: you need to make the story live so it feels 75 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: visual to me. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you to you. I feel like we haven't 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: given JC enough. And here's the one for JC to 78 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: come in at the end. It's a two part because 79 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 3: then I have the question for you DP. But the clones, 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: because I don't really know the origin. Were they all 81 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: cloned as the same person and then they put on 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: the same uniform or clearly not if you played these 83 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: different characters, I guess JC, let me know a low 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: the clones came to be that individual type of person 85 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: where they're all unique but also the same, and they Yes, 86 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: there you go, JC a little brought up. And then 87 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: with D I remember because you were just talking about 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: now with animals early on, I was just like Antenna's 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 3: up trying to be a sponge, just into everything everyone's saying. 90 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: I remember you saying, I think you were talking to 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: Freddy or someone and it was a downtime behind the booth. 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: They were talking about the scene and we were just 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: shooting the shit, really, and you're doing a bunch of 94 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: diff animal voices, and you said that you would go 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: to the zoo and like record animals and sit there 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 3: listening to them. Am I fully making this up? And 97 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: then you until you could recreate their sound? And I 98 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: always thought that was like the most interesting funny thing. 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would do that. I when I when I 100 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 5: finally kind of thought that this is something I want 101 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 5: to drill down into. After I moved to Hollywood, It's 102 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: like I wasn't like, oh, he's the he's the weird 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: sound guy or the animal guy. I wasn't that I 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 5: would just I like doing weird, weird stuff vocally, but 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: I like doing weird stuff as far as characterizations and 106 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: everything else. But but when I when I started working 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 5: in animation in Hollywood, it's like half my life ago, 108 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: which is like I think, over thirty years ago at 109 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 5: this point, I'm sixty two, almost sixty three, that I 110 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: realized that they need monsters and animals and you know, 111 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 5: familiars and pets and in a lot of cartoons, did 112 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 5: a few sessions, got to see what the brilliant Frank 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: Welker does. Fell of Colorado one. I don't know why 114 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: it is that we're both from Colorado, but I started. 115 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: I started by well, I already I always liked science biology, 116 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: watched a lot of Jacques Cousteau and Wild Kingdom and 117 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: you know, animal shows documentaries in the seventies. When I 118 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: was a kid, I studied a number of classes of biology. 119 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 5: Cell bio and invertebrate zoology were two of my favorite 120 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: classes in college. And so I like animals, and I 121 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 5: know a pretty good amount about animals already, and I 122 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 5: like improv, and Hollywood needs animals, and they need monsters. 123 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 5: And I love monster movies. I've seen a lot of 124 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: monster movies. So I started. I bought CDs. I'd go 125 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: to the zoo. I'd also watch documentaries. I'd also buy 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 5: animal sound effects CDs and just listen through them and 127 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: try to find sounds and kind of vocal behavior that 128 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 5: I could use that I could wield vocally as an actor, 129 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: not just a sound, but like something that can be 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 5: modified to sound like a sentence or an expression that 131 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: that that an actor can use, so then it's of 132 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: use to me, not just merely a sound. And but yeah, 133 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 5: I started I started drilling into it and and exploring 134 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: that and kind of finding you know, chambers and places, 135 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: essentially assembling a kind of orchestra so to speak, that 136 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 5: I can reference and direct. That's just kind of available now. 137 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 5: And I kind of fleshed that out and set that 138 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: up and hung everything on the wall inside my brain, 139 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: and it's available. So it took a while to kind 140 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 5: of amass that. But uh, you know, the more the 141 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: further along I get, it's like, oh, that's that's a 142 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: weird sound, and then inevitably it's like I can next week. 143 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: I'm using that sound already, and then it's like that's 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 5: a new thing to add to the orchestra, so I 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 5: keep adding to it. 146 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 6: John, I think you asked us earlier, like and I 147 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: don't think we ever answered, just kind of went off 148 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 6: on a tangent. But about like our first I don't 149 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 6: know if you said first impressions or how how it 150 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 6: was when you know, we started working with Dan. 151 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first interactions. I love to hear that. 152 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 6: Well, I I don't know if this was like the 153 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 6: very first interaction but I just remember, you know, we've 154 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 6: talked about many times on this podcast that Taylor and 155 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 6: I were very new to voiceover Land, and I was 156 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 6: already you know, working with the likes of Vanessa and 157 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 6: Steve and Freddie, Steve being and Vanessa being like, you know, 158 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 6: another one of those talents who just can make any sound, 159 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 6: any accent, any you know. It's just it was so 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 6: not intimidating because I mean, yes, maybe a little into 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 6: beating because I'm like, what's happening? How this this is incredible, 162 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 6: but also just like so on inspiring. And then d 163 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 6: comes in and I tell you, like, I really truly 164 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: believe that there isn't any sound or combination of like 165 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: creature in this circumstance. Like you need someone to be 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 6: a flounder, not a grouper, not a cart but a 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 6: flounder that's being electrocuted underwater deep Bradley Baker can do that. 168 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: And yeah, and then he'll. 169 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 6: Do it, and you're gonna go, that is what a 170 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 6: flounder being electrocuted underwater would sound like. That's amazing, and 171 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 6: it's it is true, like as just a fan of 172 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 6: raw talent and ability and facility, I mean it's sorry. D. 173 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 6: I'm like totally just hopefully I'm not making you uncomfortable 174 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 6: because I'm gushing over how you know, uh great, I 175 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 6: think you are, but I think you know that already. 176 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 6: But anyway, it's just truly uh inspiring and just also 177 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 6: just like mind blowing to watch, you know, D, Vanessa 178 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 6: and Steve just like kind of going back and forth 179 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 6: and making these crazy sounds. I think in the very 180 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 6: first time that you came and joined us, there was 181 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 6: a cricket. You guys, there was a cricket in the 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: studio in the booth, and it was it was like chirping, 183 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 6: and then it would stop, and it was chirping and 184 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 6: it would stop. When we were like, where the hell 185 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 6: is this cricket coming about? How is there a cricket 186 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 6: in the booth? 187 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 7: It was D. 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 6: And I'm telling you you would have no idea that 189 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 6: a human being was making that sound. That is when 190 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: I knew I was in the presence of grade now. 191 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 5: Very useful drives drives sound engineers crazy, and I learned 192 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 5: never to use that. When a joke falls flat at 193 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 5: a table read, oh I love that turns out you don't. 194 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: Want to do that. 195 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 5: I don't want to do that. 196 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: How about you, Taylor, some of your first interactions with 197 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: d and you know, because I love the episode, it's you. 198 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: You and Tia talk a lot about how you know, 199 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: your naivete for lack of better word, into the voiceover 200 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: world and being new to Star Wars. 201 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Really especially you, Taylor. 202 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: You talked about you didn't really know much other than 203 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: what Dave was telling you, and a lot of that 204 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: comes off so well with like I guess the arrogance 205 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: and confidence of youth sort of thing with the way 206 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: Ezra talks to Rex, And I'd love for you to 207 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that, just like were you 208 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: just kind of letting it go the same way d 209 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: was just kind of letting it go with Daffy Duck? 210 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: Like were you just I would love to just hear 211 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: a little bit more about that because we're about to 212 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 2: get into that episode in the coming weeks for the listeners. 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my sort of style on life is 214 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: sort of just let it go. So that's I don't 215 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: know when that one's going to stop. But meeting d 216 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 3: I was blown away, Like I was saying, I remember 217 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 3: he was playing multiple characters in everyone else, there was 218 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 3: like an air like D's coming in to day, which 219 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: I was like, oh sick, I want to meet D. 220 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: And then when he started doing this, I was blown away. 221 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: But then you also have the personal side that's outside 222 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 3: of the characters, because I didn't We've said I didn't 223 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: know any characters. I was still figuring out Ezra and 224 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: so you're sort of moving through it trying to be 225 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: a sponge cheverone. But then the conversations you're having. I 226 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: just loved talking to D so much. And I remember 227 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: I had just started university. I guess that's the age 228 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: of was in and I was in philosophy one on 229 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: one because I was going to be my major, and 230 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: I had read I was doing it online because they 231 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: couldn't go to school, and I was like, Camu is 232 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: my favorite philosopher, Dez. I can remember this, but I 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: had a conversation just how sweet DEAs. I kept calling 234 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: him Camus because I haven't heard anyone say I've just. 235 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: Read about it. 236 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: And then he's he's. 237 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: Talking about this guy. 238 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: Camu was just like this guy canvas and I'm not 239 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: connecting the dots at all, and I was like, god, 240 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: de he's a genius. And I go home to then 241 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: realize that he was so kind that he's not making 242 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: me feel like a moron to this, And I always 243 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: think about funny, it is like that people who aren't 244 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 3: going and hearing and having conversations doing stuff online, you 245 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: have no idea, You're just reading a thing, which long story. 246 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: I then am thinking younger people need more time, myself included, 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: to just go and imagine and go listen to things 248 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: and put together thoughts and ideas that no one else 249 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 3: is going to do them. If you're just if you're 250 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: just sitting on your phone all the time, it's going 251 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: to be fed to you. But having time to just 252 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: sit and be like, I wonder what that sounds like 253 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: when it's in distress and there's a hook in its 254 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: mouth and then we're also in space. 255 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 4: Like that's a good way to live life. 256 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: Because then the next thought is like, I wonder how 257 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: it's cool to be kind to someone I've never met 258 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: in this place who's living through that like one thing, 259 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: that's the next thing, and I feel like we're kind 260 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 3: of losing that a bit, and with d this is 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: all coming back around. So that's what I feel from 262 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 3: you so much. I feel like a humanity. That makes 263 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: sense why you are so talented and prolific in your career, 264 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: because they go together. And that's what I always feel 265 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: towards the and yeah, I think it's really cool. 266 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 5: It was always for me. I appreciate your kind words 267 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: all of you very much, But for me, when I 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: was earlier in my career, the most effective and the 269 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: most efficient learning for me was to be in a 270 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 5: room with the Titans that I got to meet, who 271 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 5: had been doing this for decades and we're so much 272 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 5: further ahead in terms of you know, I think everybody 273 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: has talent, but they have confidence and an ease of 274 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: wielding what it is they have. And to see that 275 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 5: in a way that in one sense it's like it's 276 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: terrifying to see someone who is so good that it's effortless, 277 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: and it's it's it's like they have an Adam Baum 278 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 5: kind of power at their disp which may be it 279 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 5: may be different colors and different flavors of atom bomb, 280 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 5: or it may just be one atom bomb, but my gosh, 281 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: that thing. It's amazing. And and to be able to 282 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 5: be around that and to see that that this is 283 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 5: what you need to find within yourself, that this this 284 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 5: is what you need to to discover and to harness 285 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 5: and then to put out there like you're just throwing 286 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: it off and everyone in the room wants that for you. 287 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: Nobody is here against you, everybody is supportive, and that 288 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 5: your job is to find that of yourself. And that's 289 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 5: what becoming an actor is. That's what becoming an artist is, 290 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: is to find that within yourself. And one of the 291 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 5: best ways to to realize that is to be around 292 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: those who are further along than you or or that 293 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 5: are in this own specialized path and to say, oh, 294 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 5: it's like, man, I cannot do that. I can never 295 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 5: do that. But but the what they're bringing to it, 296 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 5: what they bring to the room when they enter, the 297 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: generosity that that's in between the takes, the energy that 298 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 5: they use to keep the fun going, the way that 299 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 5: they're always active, that they're always listening, that they're not 300 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: tuned out, that they're connected to this process. These are 301 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: all things that you can't learn in a class. You 302 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 5: can't learn it from a book. You can learn it 303 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: by being around somebody who just knows better than you. 304 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 5: Because you're young and you're innocent, and you're inexperienced, and 305 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 5: you just don't know that yet. That's that's one of 306 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: the great you know, privileges of my career is to 307 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: be able to have that experience, like you're talking about, 308 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 5: just to walk in with your talent and your abilities, 309 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: and to not be too freaked out by it, to 310 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 5: stand your ground and to do your thing, but to 311 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 5: be able and open to learning from those who are 312 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: a little further along. I mean, that's it's you know, 313 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 5: everybody's included. We're all in the session. We're all session players, 314 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 5: and that's that's part of what's wonderful about acting. And 315 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 5: I just wish that everybody who's coming online to this, 316 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 5: who aspires to it, can find ways to be around 317 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 5: people who are further along than you. You want to 318 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: play tennis with someone who's better than you are. That's 319 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 5: the only way you're going to get better at tennis. 320 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: And you want to be you know, in the room, 321 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 5: not threatened by it, but to learn from it. 322 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we're at the Temple of Apollo, 323 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 2: you know, getting all this ancient Greek philosophy wisdom's this 324 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: is incredible and do I want to you know, step 325 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: away a little bit from I mean from the voice 326 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: acting thing and the acting thing in general, because like 327 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: U T a little too earlier, like thousands of characters 328 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: IMDb needed extra code just to do ring to be paid, 329 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: because that's how long your resume is. But with all 330 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: that and all these different characters you play, and how 331 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: full the investment you always are in each and every 332 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 2: single one, how does D take care of D? How 333 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 2: does D make sure he keeps check of who D is? 334 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: Because you're just talking about no thyself again going ahead 335 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 2: to the Temple of Apollo, and we love to talk 336 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: about mental health and self care on this podcast. We 337 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: want to create a safe space and if you be 338 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: so kind of, you know, give us insight in terms 339 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 2: of like how do you make sure D is okay? 340 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 6: Uh? 341 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: Even if Rex is not? 342 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: You know right, that's well, that's an interesting Uh. That's 343 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: that's an interesting lecture in and on itself, isn't it? 344 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 345 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: Uh? For me? 346 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 5: You know, well, look, I'm I'm in the last third 347 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 5: of my life, best case, and so I'm paying more 348 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 5: attention to such things, you know, reading the Stoics, reading Nietzsche, 349 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 5: reading Buddhism. It's like what can I grab onto you? Here? 350 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: A lot of it comes down to I think this 351 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 5: is that you've got to look at yourself as an 352 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 5: artist and a human being, right, and I think your 353 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 5: artistry comes from you're being a human which is partially 354 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: I think kind of a spiritual thing or a psychological thing, 355 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: and partially a physical thing. You've got to take care 356 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 5: of yourself by getting enough sleep, You've got to eat well, 357 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 5: you've got to have good relationships. You've got to constantly 358 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: be cultivating things that you care about that that give 359 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 5: you fuel, and not just being an actor, but it's 360 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: things that that are creative and that bring fire and 361 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: availability of yourself to your work. And and so I 362 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 5: mean a lot of it these days is just trying 363 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: to try to teach myself how to take a nap 364 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 5: and how to sleep, get enough rest, and then to 365 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: eat the right foods, and then to work out, and 366 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 5: and then to meditate a lot I do. I do 367 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: regular meditation because a lot of a lot of my job, 368 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 5: the way I look at it now, is not to 369 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 5: it's not to people please, it's not to make people 370 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: like me. It's to make something that's irresistibly good and 371 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 5: it's so good that they have to hire me. That's 372 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 5: my job. So in order to do that, I have 373 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 5: to have a full tank in terms of my energy, 374 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 5: in terms of who I am, in terms of how 375 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: I feel about my life and myself. And so I'm 376 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: constantly feeding myself with reading. I journal a lot, I'm 377 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: following my curiosity. I'm doing things that are creative that 378 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 5: don't bring me money. Sometimes I'm helping out other creatives 379 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 5: who are working on projects and I just want to 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 5: help them out and I don't want money for it, 381 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: because I think it's important to remain an amateur and 382 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 5: to have that kind of habit, because being a creative person, 383 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 5: being an artist, I think, is it's as much habit 384 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 5: as anything. It's not an aspiration, it's not having a 385 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 5: good idea. It's actually making something and then making it 386 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 5: again and again and again in a way that feeds you, 387 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 5: that brings you enthusiasm, that brings you a kind of 388 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 5: of fertilized readiness that you bring with you around in 389 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 5: your day and not just to your work but into 390 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 5: your life. But when you walk into a session or 391 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: address an audition, which is now unfortunately in isolation, you 392 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: come not necessarily prepared for anything, but you come ready. 393 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 5: You come with your full self. The soil is tilled, 394 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 5: the worms are dug up. You've put the potting soil there, 395 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 5: you've thrown some seeds, you've been cultivating these others. You're 396 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 5: watering it, and you've got this readiness to bring to 397 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 5: whatever the project is, so that you have lots of ideas, 398 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 5: good ideas, and you're your focused energy available, and and 399 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: you have the energy and the connection to care enough 400 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: to do a good job. Because a lot of people 401 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: they're just especially especially now, they're distracted, they're drained, they're atomized, 402 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 5: they're isolated, they're siloed, they're alone. What we do is 403 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 5: we come together and we tell stories that means something 404 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 5: that matter, and so it has to matter to you, 405 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 5: and you have to have yourself available to bring to 406 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 5: that mission as a professional artist and as a human being. 407 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 4: Amen. 408 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: I love that, And I can't wait to read your 409 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: book on all that, because you know, because I would 410 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: read the heck out of that, and what you just 411 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: said is so valuable, so valid that we should all 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: take in. 413 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 5: Thank you. I put a lot of this actually on 414 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 5: my website, I want to be a Voice Actor dot com, 415 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 5: where I go on on and on and on about 416 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: about you know, becoming a creative and becoming a voice actor, 417 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 5: and I have a lot of other little sprinklings of insight, 418 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 5: you know. 419 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that and the 420 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: other thing I was going to say. What you were 421 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: just saying about not being an isolation remind me of 422 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: like the READYR. Kipling quote the strength of the pack 423 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: is the wolf strength of the wolf of the pack 424 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: sort of thing. You need to have your own inner strength, 425 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: but also that the strength of others will uplift your 426 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: inner strength and vice versa. But with how I want 427 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: to be a voice actor because I love that you 428 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: had this free website which is a free resource. What 429 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: was the genesis of you starting this? Because it's like 430 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: Captain Rex helping the other clones, you know, find their way. 431 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: You're providing this resource that sometimes people guard these secrets, 432 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: but you're like, no, no, here they are. Can you 433 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: just talk us through that a little bit, because I 434 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't think anyone that comes to me because they 435 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: know I know voice actors like hey, what's your advice 436 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 2: of like go to I want to be a Voice 437 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: actor dot com or go to Boebox Studios. 438 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: Those are the two places you go to. 439 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: And I would just love for you to shine a 440 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: light on I want to be a voice actor dot com. 441 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: I think it's so incredible and and it'd be great 442 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: for others to look at them. 443 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 5: Well good, right, Well, one thing I learned doing theater 444 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 5: for free as an amateur theater person is that theater 445 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 5: is a voluntary family and that everyone's valuable and you 446 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: need everybody on the stage otherwise you're not gonna have 447 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: a show. And as a as a session voice actor, 448 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: it's very much a session gig, you know, like the 449 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: Wrecking Crew of that really cool documentary about those musicians. 450 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: Is that it's not an excluding ethic, it's an including 451 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 5: You want. You want good players up on the band 452 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 5: stand with you. That that not only make you look good, 453 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 5: but it makes the band look good, It makes the 454 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 5: music sound good. It makes you know, in our case, 455 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: the story look good. And so I want others up 456 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 5: on the stage with us. And if that, if that, 457 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 5: somebody else auditions and gets the gig and I didn't, 458 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 5: There's lots of other gigs out there. It's fine. I'm 459 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 5: more concerned with the quality of the story result and 460 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: the fun of the making of it. And so with 461 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 5: that in mind, Why would I sell good information that 462 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 5: would only inhibit people Because because a lot of creative 463 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: so those who are curious, maybe those who are are 464 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: completely worthy and ready and they have the talent, but 465 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 5: just don't have the knowledge. It gives a barrier to 466 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 5: them getting up on the stage with me. And so 467 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 5: it's like, then I'm not going to sell it. I'm 468 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 5: going to give it away. Plus I like to pontificate 469 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: and inflict my opinion on all kinds of things, so 470 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 5: that's fun. So I have complete control, so I'm not 471 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: beholden to a publisher. It's not frozen in a book. 472 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: If I write a book, I'm gonna want to rewrite 473 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: the book next month. That'd be that would suck. So 474 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 5: it's this book that I can continually update and and 475 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: keep adding to and it's just helping people. Like with COVID, 476 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 5: I was, you know, I've got a few pages on 477 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: how to build an inexpensive recording booth in your home, 478 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 5: because it's like, we got to get this going, folks. 479 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 5: Otherwise this career is done for a year or two 480 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: or however long this COVID lasts. So it's like I'm 481 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: going to show everybody how to do it, and I'm 482 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: going to show them. I'm going to walk them through it. 483 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take pictures. I'm gonna list all the all 484 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 5: the items, how much they cost, where you can order it. 485 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 5: It's like, it's like I cannot take you any closer 486 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 5: to building it in your own closet, you know, with 487 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 5: my own hands. And I think in the end, a 488 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 5: creative person, when you find your your traction, that you 489 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 5: also have to find a generosity of what it is 490 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 5: you've found, because yes, it's your talent, yes you've earned it, 491 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 5: but yes you've been really lucky and you're very privileged 492 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 5: and fortunate to have all this come together for you. 493 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 5: So you don't need to hoard this and and you know, 494 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 5: meet it out for money or to say it's all 495 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 5: mine or it's all me, or it's like it doesn't 496 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 5: now some of it is, but not all of it. 497 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: So why not be generous? Why not why not put 498 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: out the good information that helps people? It helps those 499 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: who are curious, It helps those who who are experienced 500 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 5: but just want don't want to spend three hours talking 501 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: about what you do to get into voice acting, which 502 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 5: usually falls on deaf ears because most people are just 503 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 5: idly curious and they're not really serious. But the thing is, 504 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 5: you don't ever know if a person who's asking that 505 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 5: question has the talent, or it might be buried in there, 506 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 5: or or maybe they're really serious about it. You don't know. 507 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. So if it's all on the website 508 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 5: for free, everybody's happy and I have a lot of 509 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 5: fun doing it, and I find it interesting, and I 510 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 5: just I wish there were more of that in the world. 511 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: I think creative people should have that. I mean, we're 512 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 5: a capitalist society, and yes, I'm a capitalist person. You know, 513 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 5: how can I not be? We all are to an extent, 514 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 5: But there's a generosity and a helpfulness I think, to 515 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: a creative mindset, and especially a collaborative creative mindset, which 516 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 5: is what we are. We're not someone who's you know, 517 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 5: making sculptures in the basement that we're showing to no one. 518 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: That's our precious art. It's like, no, this is collaborative art. 519 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 5: That is for the public. It's very out and open 520 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: and collaborative. And and so bring everybody in. Why not? 521 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: Why not bring everybody in? 522 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 8: What? 523 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 5: Why? Why? Why? Why degrade that and impede that with 524 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 5: a paywall, So that's I mean, money's fine, but I 525 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 5: just want to I just want a good movie screen 526 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 5: and some books, some good snacks and yeah, bottle hit 527 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: in someplace and I'll remember it is at some point 528 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 5: because I'm so old. 529 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 2: Do we could talk to you for hours and and 530 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: will you come back for a small because we would 531 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: love to just have you back and just keep continuing 532 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: the conversation. 533 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 5: I am, I am your mister blah blah. You bring 534 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: me on and I will blah blah blah all day long. 535 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, well, Powder Rebellion Presents blah blah blah with 536 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: Deeprendtley Baker coming soon. But before that, we have our 537 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: guy jac who you met in the pre recording conversation, Jac, 538 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: Do we have any fact checks today? I know Taylor 539 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: three one, but knowing you, I know school is in 540 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 2: session and with the desk start being built in the 541 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: background of your house, that. 542 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 6: Is what we. 543 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. I have a few things, mostly just providing some 544 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 7: contexts and some facts and figures. Early on in the episode, 545 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 7: you guys talked about Starwars celebration and the season two 546 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 7: trailer of Star Wars Rebels for people like me, who 547 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 7: have been to many many Star Wars celebrations. Just to 548 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 7: anchor you a bit. That was Sowar Celebration Anaheim in 549 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 7: twenty fifteen, which happened on April sixteenth to April nineteenth, 550 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: and then Season two of Star Wars Rebels premiered on 551 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 7: June twentieth of that same year. Twenty fifteen, you guys 552 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 7: talked a lot about D's IMDb. Currently as an actor, 553 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 7: he has seven hundred and twenty one things listed. I 554 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 7: don't know if that includes the upcoming projects or not. 555 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: De mentioned Avatar, The Last Airbender Taylor. You were like, 556 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 7: that's not Blue Jim's Cameron stuff, is it? It's not. It 557 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 7: was a Nickelodeon cartoon that aired from two thousand and 558 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 7: five to two thousand and eight, currently has a live 559 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 7: action TV series on Netflix. Dante, who was on on 560 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 7: season one of our show, was a voice in that show, 561 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 7: which is where his podcast comes from, and d you 562 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 7: mentioned that it was a Dave Filoni show. Dave was 563 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 7: not the showrunner of that show, but he did direct 564 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 7: eight episodes of season one, including episodes one and two 565 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 7: of the series, and I think he didn't continue because 566 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 7: George hired him away from Avatar to kind of do 567 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 7: Clone Wars. Space Jam talked a lot about space Jam. 568 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 7: For the uninitiated, it was a two thousand and six 569 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 7: movie where loonis sorry, nineteen ninety six movie Apologies, where 570 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 7: Looney Tunes play basketball with real life basketball players like 571 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 7: Michael Jordan. Space Jam did two hundred and fifty million 572 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 7: dollars globally at the box office on an eighty million 573 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 7: dollar budget. And just a personal note, we have the 574 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 7: space Jam soundtrack on at my restaurant on the playlist 575 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 7: and whenever it comes on, half the bar, like Taylor 576 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 7: was saying, gets super super into it. 577 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 5: I'm on the fire track of that soundtrack and they 578 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 5: screwed me out of royalties. 579 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: Justice for Dan. 580 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 7: Look, we pay all of our BMI and ascaps, So 581 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 7: the the few pennies I'm sure you're not getting from us, 582 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 7: I can nail you. And then Taylor, the last thing 583 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 7: I have. Taylor, you asked about the clones. All the 584 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 7: clones are genetically cloned from the Bounty Hunter Django Fat 585 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 7: from Star Wars episode two. 586 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 4: The clones are Django Fet. 587 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 7: Yes, accept and they're all altered to like grow faster, 588 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 7: age faster, things like that except for Boba Fett, who 589 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 7: was a genetically identical to his father. And do you 590 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 7: can correct me on this, But in terms of why 591 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 7: the clones have different voices and different I think part 592 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 7: of the idea is that, like life, experience impacts who 593 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 7: you are as a person. In addition to like Ian 594 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 7: Malcolm says in Jurassic Park, life finds a way so 595 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 7: even a perfect clone in a laboratory setting doesn't actually 596 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 7: come out exactly the same as the thing that it 597 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 7: is being blown. 598 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 5: From, right, and you see that like with twins for instance, 599 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 5: where it's like you look at those two, it's like, so, 600 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 5: you guys are twins because but in that case, the 601 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 5: way I always thought of it is that, in particular, 602 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 5: like with a bad Batch, that they weren't just born 603 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 5: with with these traits or abilities. They were they were 604 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 5: cultivated and trained into this, and I imagine that the 605 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: people that they that were most exposed to in this 606 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 5: training would also bend their their their vocalization uh in 607 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 5: in this way, or that at least that that's the 608 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 5: way I've always explained it to myself, because the bad 609 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 5: Batch is like, yeah, that's not just the same uh 610 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: accent or nationality or whatever you want to call it, 611 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 5: not I mean, which doesn't really apply because it's in 612 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 5: a galaxy far far away, but there's so far apart. 613 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 5: I just took it to their to their training and 614 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 5: their upbringing by different specialists that were brought into enhance 615 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 5: their their genetic enhancements, so to speak. 616 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: Certainly all Mandalorians, then all clones. 617 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 5: Well technically yeah, whoa. 618 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 7: And then I do want to before the internet ad 619 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 7: adds me, because I'm sure there's going to be somebody 620 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 7: out there, I do want to point out that there 621 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 7: is one one clone that d you did not voice, 622 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 7: which is Omega from the Bad Batch is the only one. 623 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 5: Younger clones, uh Dan, Daniel Logan. Those some instances as well, 624 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,399 Speaker 5: and there may be other instances, like in video games 625 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 5: where I didn't voice clones at all. They just hired 626 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 5: some other guy to do it. But you know, those 627 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 5: things kick around and that's that's just how it is. 628 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, But the big, the big one is Omega from 629 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 7: Bad Batch. You did everybody else pretty much in Bad Batch. 630 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 7: And I do want to say that Omega is, aside 631 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 7: from having two X chromosomes, also is an exact copy 632 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 7: of Boba fet with no genetic modifications or not fet 633 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 7: jango fet apologies really m Omega and bad Batch was 634 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 7: had no genetic modifications other than that the chemin Owens 635 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 7: made her a her. 636 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 5: Huh as well as uh who was the kind of 637 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 5: turncoat clone female at the end of bad Batch She's 638 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 5: she was also a clone I believe. Ah, I'm sorry, 639 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 5: I can't remember her name. Yeah, so there's there's one 640 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 5: other I believe that's one other clone there, female who 641 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 5: I did not voice. 642 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 8: Also, if there are seven hundred titles that De's done, 643 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 8: usually they get three voices per episode. 644 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 6: So so we're talking over two thousand characters. Yeah, conservatively, 645 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 6: potentially more. 646 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, if it were a running series, well, additional 647 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 8: voices can cover at least three so per episode. 648 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 5: M hm, not always, but it could be. 649 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 8: So I'm saying like conservatively one thousand and probably more 650 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 8: like three thousand. 651 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 6: But the seven hundred and twenty one tie that's just titles, 652 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 6: not episodes. So for Star Wars rebels alone, I've heard. 653 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: You play a bunch of different Yeah. 654 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, so sprinkle me in for a lot of stuff, 655 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 5: SpongeBob or you know whatever it's it's by the way, 656 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 5: a complex carbohydrate. 657 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 6: What does that sound like? 658 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: Because that was a venture time, was what I was 659 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: referring to. 660 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're talking bonn. I'm not so complex. 661 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: It's like if Walter Mathow was a cinnamon bun. 662 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 6: But do you see how You're like, what could that 663 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 6: possibly sound like? And then he does it and you're like, 664 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 6: that is what that would sound like? 665 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 5: Sweet and gooey. 666 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 8: I think I may be to blame for the crickets 667 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 8: in our session, because every time I saw you for 668 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 8: a long time, I would. 669 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: Do the crickets. 670 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: Guilty as charge. 671 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: Sorry, how many mysteries being unfolded? The bourbon, the crickets. 672 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: And this has been a very inside I just heard 673 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: a cricket, I heard it, jac anything else? 674 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 7: That's all I got from here? 675 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent, Well thank you as always, Uh do you? 676 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 2: Thank you again for joining us. This was such a blast, man, 677 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 2: and we can't wait to have you back again coming 678 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: to and blah blah blah with with Dee Bradley Baker. 679 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. 680 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 5: I appreciate it so much. I really I had such 681 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 5: a it's such a thrill to work with you guys, 682 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 5: and it's it's always great to see you and I 683 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 5: really appreciate. 684 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 6: Your kind words well, so love having you on. 685 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: Each week, Taylor gives us our outro and he says, 686 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 2: cue the music to JC. But when we have special 687 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: guests like yourself, come on, we'd like to throw that 688 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: to the special guest. 689 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: So will you do us the honor? 690 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: And it's up to if you want to be your 691 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: own ensemble cast like you have been throughout your career 692 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: and say hit different voices, you can no pressure. If 693 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 2: you want to do it as a cricket, you can 694 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: do that too, But would you do us the honor 695 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: and get us out of here and tell JC to 696 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 2: cue the music. 697 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 5: Jac, thank you the music. 698 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: That is incredious. 699 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 4: I felt need new music for that one. 700 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing, 701 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 2: Hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surtcar, Taylor Gray and John 702 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 2: may Brody executive producer and in house star wars guru 703 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 2: slash fact. 704 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: Checker J C. 705 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 2: Reifenberg. 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