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Speaker 1: to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, and Jerry uh. And this is Stuff you

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Speaker 1: should Know the podcast. There are one, two, three of us. No,

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Speaker 1: you just take a census. H You like that? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought this is much more interesting than I thought

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Speaker 1: it would be. It wouldn't take much. I would guess

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Speaker 1: most people's expectations of the census is that it's awfully boring.

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Speaker 1: It's not at all. I don't know about the at

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Speaker 1: all part, but yes, there are plenty of interesting factors

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it's Uh, it doesn't get

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's exciting to some people people in demography. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: statistical walks, stat walks, right as we call them stocks.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, just keep going. Uh yeah, there are plenty

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Speaker 1: of people who find the sensus amazingly interesting. And that's

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Speaker 1: who this is for. That's right. We've got twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: it makes it an exciting census. Yeah. So, um, and

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Speaker 1: I should say we're talking about the American census. There's

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Speaker 1: sensuces everywhere. Um. Yeah, It's not like every country does

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Speaker 1: it's pretty common actually, especially in westernized developed countries, that

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Speaker 1: our census every ten years on years ending in zero.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I was like, I wonder if everybody does

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Speaker 1: They do it every ten years and years ending in one. Really,

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's so foreign. Maybe they want to

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Speaker 1: all right, So every ten years, like you said, it's

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Speaker 1: every time. Um, it is in the U s Constitution

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Speaker 1: I can see that. But what's neat about it? Though, Chuck?

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00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: If you ever need to prove your age or where

423
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: you lived or anything like that, you can write the

424
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: census be and be like, I know this is under

425
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: wraps for seventy two years, but I need proof that

426
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: I I'm saying I am who I am, Please provide

427
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: me with a sheet. And since this bureau provides a

428
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: letter on your behalf saying this person lived at this

429
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: place at this time, our guys counted him. Pretty cool. Yeah,

430
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: should we take a break, let's chuck, all right, we'll

431
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: come back and we'll talk a little bit about how

432
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: this whole thing actually works. Chuck, I want to go

433
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: on record also saying when I say guys, I'm using

434
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: it in a completely gender neutral sense. Yeah, we say

435
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: guys a lot. Some people don't like that, I know,

436
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean a gender neutral e I know. But the

437
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: same people who don't like that also don't like the

438
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: fact that you're using it general neutraally, you know. Hm hmm,

439
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: I see what you mean. But uh, let's get back

440
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: to censusing UM in two thousand and ten, Like I

441
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: said earlier, they started hiring people. The work begins on

442
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: the census a couple of years beforehand, right, that's the

443
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: easiest way to say it. Start recruiting people to work

444
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: UM about January of the census year is when they

445
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: start actually counting people in Alaska. Yeah, that's where the

446
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: sense of starts for a while. Since Yeah, and it

447
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: makes sense why oh, because the about the time that

448
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: the census really gets started, the rural Alaska experiences the

449
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: spring thaw or the breakup, and travel becomes very tough

450
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: and everybody leaves home to go do other stuff because

451
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: they've been cooped up in their their house. The whole pointer. Yeah,

452
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: I U it was, I mean, it was a very

453
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: sensible reason. I thought it was just some like cool

454
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: old tradition. It's pretty new, actually, yeah, exactly. So they

455
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: start in Alaska, they actually count people there. Then in

456
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: that's just sort of a let's get Alaska taken care of, right,

457
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 1: and then we can move on to other things. So

458
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: in February they send forms in advance to rural areas

459
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: where these forms have to be delivered by hand. Then

460
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: in March you're gonna the other folks receiver letter saying

461
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: since this is coming, get excited pretty much. Yeah, and

462
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: they just have to sit around and wait for the

463
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: census letter to come after that. Yeah. But what you

464
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: do is with that up that since this has coming letter,

465
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: it gives you the option of how you want what

466
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: language you want to get your senses in, which is Spanish, Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese,

467
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: and Russian or a Spanish English edition English. Yeah, and

468
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: then in mid March the actual forms are mailed. There's

469
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty million residences in the US. Yeah.

470
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: And you know, one thing that really stood out to

471
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: me when I was reading this, as we'll get into

472
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: this stuff here in a second, is how many different

473
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: ways there are too live in the United States. Yeah. Yeah,

474
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: there's a um there's a thing called the residents Rule

475
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: that the Census Bureau had to come to terms with,

476
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: and apparently every census they have like a public hearing

477
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: on the residents rule and if it needs to change

478
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: or include other stuff. But it basically says where you

479
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: spend most of your time sleeping, where you sleep the

480
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: most is considered your residence as far as the census goes.

481
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: Even if you have another permanent residence. If you are

482
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: sleeping under an overpass, that overpass counts as your residence

483
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: during the census. Yeah, and I just thought, like, yeah,

484
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: you go to the houses, go the apartments in the condos,

485
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: and like what else is there overpasses? I mean there's dormitories.

486
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Dormitories like where college students live. Yeah, yeah, they get counted. There.

487
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: There are homes for senior living. It's just a living homes. Yes,

488
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: there are prisons, Yeah, they get counted there, there are.

489
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: You might live in a boat at a marina, counted there.

490
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: You might live on an aircraft carrier counted there. Um.

491
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: What else, shelters, trailer parks yeah so um. One of

492
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: the things that the Census Bureau has gotten kind of

493
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: good at is making contact with local social service agencies,

494
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: local nonprofit organizations and saying, where do your um, like

495
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: transient populations like say, migrant workers, UM, undocumented immigrants, homeless people,

496
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: where do they live? Um? Can you take us to

497
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: them so we can count them? Because again, they're trying

498
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: to count every single person who lives in the United States,

499
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: whether they are here legally or illegally, UM, whether they

500
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: live in a car or whether they live in a mansion.

501
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: They're trying to count every single person. And some of

502
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: it's super easy. Again, they send a hundred and twenty

503
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: million UM census forms out to the residences. That's the

504
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: easy part. The hard part is going and finding people

505
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: who have these non traditional residences, hotels, people who live

506
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: in in weekly hotels. They've got to count them. And

507
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: one of the confounding factors of the whole thing, Chuck is,

508
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: Let's say you're your your son is away in college

509
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: or prison, right, You're probably gonna be tempted to say, well,

510
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back eventually. This is his home, this

511
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: is permanent address. The Census Bureau constantly has to fight

512
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 1: with that and be like no, no, no, like like,

513
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: don't count them. They live in prison or they live

514
00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: in college, which could be college or prison. You know. Uh,

515
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people that fill out these forms don't

516
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: speak English like enough to fill out the form, and

517
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: they may not even know to ask for the bilingual form.

518
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: So they actually have um online guides and fifty nine languages,

519
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: telephone assistants in six languages, and thirty three thousand in

520
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: person assistant centers across the US that are staffed, and

521
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: I think very wisely, the Census Bureau realized that a

522
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: lot of those households where the heads of household don't

523
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: speak or write or read English very well may have

524
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: kids who do speak English and read and write English

525
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: very well and could actually help their parents with this.

526
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: So they started in two thousand ten especially a big

527
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: push to the schools to to get kids like jazzed

528
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: about the census and basically teach them how to talk

529
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: to their parents about it and how to fill out

530
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: these forms with their parents. Yeah, they send them a

531
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: litt kit, a little fun kit, complete with like, you know, coloring,

532
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: color these kind of Uh. So back to the year.

533
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: How the year shakes out? Uh. Completed forms are due

534
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: by April one of the year, and May through July,

535
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: they are coming the streets looking for those people who

536
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: didn't fell out the forms and looking for the people,

537
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like you said, in all these non traditional homes. I

538
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: guess we'll call them um or if they don't have homes,

539
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: just non traditional places where people dwell. Uh. And then

540
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: July through December they are analyzing all that data, and

541
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: by December thirty one they are required by law to

542
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: report the new um apportionment numbers to the President for

543
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: the congressional seats. And then they have till April the

544
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: following year for all the data collection to be sussed out.

545
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: So it's a long you know, it's a year's long process. Us.

546
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: What is that and two and a half or three

547
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: years to complete a census. Yeah, that's just the actual census.

548
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Then there's also the work of I guess with every census,

549
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: you're also putting the last census that was seventy two

550
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: years old up on the internet now or it used

551
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: to be on microfilm, now it's up on the internet.

552
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: So the Census Bureau is always always working. Yeah. We

553
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: forgot one group of people that really cracked me up. Carney's. Yeah,

554
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: they mentioned Carney's in here. You gotta count them. Yeah,

555
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: traveling got to catch up with him first. Yeah, imagine

556
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Carney's probably aren't since its friendly. You never know. I'm

557
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 1: sure it depends on the Carney. Can't pigeonhold them? You're right,

558
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: even if you're a pigeon. It's a long standing motto here,

559
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: don't pigeonhold the Carney. That's a t shirt. So, um,

560
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: on the actual form, like you said, it's gotten a

561
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: lot shorter of these days. And we kind of joked

562
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: a few times about the fact that the first three

563
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: questions are who's living there? But um, here's how it

564
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: breaks down is how many people live in the household?

565
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: Question number two, were there any additional people staying here

566
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: on April one that you did not include in question one?

567
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: And finally, question number three says just name everyone in

568
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: the household. They really want to make sure they get

569
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: that correct. You're also gonna have to fill out things

570
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: about your your gender, your age, your race, what kind

571
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: of Hispanic origin, perhaps your relationship to the head of

572
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: the household. The actually Alaskan Native tribes are not very

573
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: happy right now because apparently in the census they will

574
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: be asked, um, are you a member of an Alaskan

575
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: Native tribe? If so, what tribe? And they're like, well,

576
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: what business of this is yours? You know, they're not

577
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: very happy about this whole thing, And it's that was

578
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: the newest thing I heard about the census is going

579
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: on right now. Well, you gotta roll with the times.

580
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: Um in two thousand they started allowing more than one

581
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: race to be selected, and that got me thinking about

582
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: gender identity and if the US was gonna do anything

583
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: like that in like sixty years. Probably I haven't seen

584
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: anything for this next one, but I did see that

585
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Australia and the United States, I'm sorry, Australia and UH

586
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: and the UK have both planned to include gender identity

587
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: options in the next census, so but ahead of the

588
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: curve from the US, no surprise. UH. In Australia actually is.

589
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: People are mad there this year because apparently previous to

590
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: this UM they're they're doing their census right now. I

591
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: think in and prior to this one, you didn't have

592
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: all the connecting information was optional, identifying information, like you

593
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't have to put things like I guess it's just

594
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: different than the US, like uh, your address and stuff

595
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: like that. You didn't have to connect. I think they

596
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: were literally discounting people. And before Christmas last year they

597
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: sent out a press release saying that it's no longer optional.

598
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: All this information identifying information is gonna be collected and

599
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: stored in perpetuity, including things like your name, where you live,

600
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: how much money you make, and stuff like that, and

601
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people got really ticked off, and they

602
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: said that's leading to or they predicted it would lead

603
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: to a lot of people just lying and giving a

604
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: bunch of garbage data and that's supposed to be on

605
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: the census. Yeah. I thought they were starting to move

606
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: more towards the model of UM, including questions like that

607
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: on that American Community survey. Well this is Australia, so gotcha. Yeah. Sorry,

608
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I think the way I read it was that previous

609
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: to this year, it was just kind of counting heads. Yeah,

610
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: that's that's very invasive. Yeah, you could optionally fill that

611
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: stuff in, but now they're they're saying you have to,

612
00:37:56,280 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: you have to. So who knows. And then we kind

613
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 1: of teased earlier about people about a crossbow. Yeah, there's

614
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: a competing theories on what kind of job census taker is. Right.

615
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: Some people say it's a great job. It's very flexible. Um,

616
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: it pays in some places, like twelve dollars plus an

617
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: hour you get to right off the mileage you put

618
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: on your car. Great job out on the street's fresh air.

619
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: Other people say it's an extremely dangerous job and one

620
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: that the Census Bureau tends to downplay despite the fact

621
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: that they're like hundreds of incidents of um census takers

622
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: being threatened or attacked, uh, just doing their job. Senseless

623
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: sensus violence. Right. Yeah, And the crossboat guy in particular

624
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: is a guy in Marion, Ohio who had like a

625
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: no trespassing sign posted on his property and a picture

626
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: of a crossbow. Right. If you're a census taker, that's

627
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: meaning that the legal that doesn't have anything to do

628
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: with you. You're basically a deputized federal agent carrying out

629
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: your your business, and you are allowed to walk up

630
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: on somebody's property even if they have no trespassing signs posted. Well,

631
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: the guy in Marion, Ohio, UM said, Hey, I would

632
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: like you guys to leave, by the way. I have

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