WEBVTT - 2026 NBA Draft Recap & Reaction

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<v Speaker 1>What these young bloods have to understand at this game

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<v Speaker 1>has always been it will always be about buckets.

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<v Speaker 2>Attack the basket stuff, my old.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoking to buggets. The NBA Draft is concluded, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>here to give you some Rookie of the Year bets

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<v Speaker 3>and breakdown what happened on what was.

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<v Speaker 4>A really interesting night in the It was not very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything kind of happened as Chob brand and I are

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<v Speaker 3>on the same page of that joint means Brandon Anderson,

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<v Speaker 3>NBA Futures Analyst.

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<v Speaker 4>You know him, uh as the AJ Devonsa.

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<v Speaker 3>Of r O.

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<v Speaker 4>I hopefully that a good thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, he's the He's the AJ Debonsa or

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<v Speaker 3>Darren Peterson or Cam Boozer, depending on your perspective of ROI.

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<v Speaker 3>You can check out his bets in the Action networkap

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<v Speaker 3>at Wheaton Brando to BH E A t O N

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<v Speaker 3>B R A N D O here for you after

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<v Speaker 3>the NBA Draft on Tuesday night. Second round is going

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<v Speaker 3>to start tonight. We will not have a recap shot

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<v Speaker 3>for the second round. There's nothing actionable to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the second round. If there are emergency podcast based off

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<v Speaker 3>of trades, et cetera, we'll have you set here on buckets.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to let you know everything we talked about can

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<v Speaker 3>for you to track your pick, so you have the

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<v Speaker 3>second information where the bets and money you are coming

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<v Speaker 3>in on. You got stuff if you read the article

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<v Speaker 3>and the Action Network about stuff like hey, Mickael Brown,

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<v Speaker 3>no for top five. That one worked out for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Had some other bets that came in on the draft

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<v Speaker 3>hit some hits, some misses, as usual for me, Brandon,

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<v Speaker 3>how is your draft night betting?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was not a great night to bet against certainty, Matt,

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<v Speaker 5>It was a really good night to have bet on

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<v Speaker 5>certainty because it's did like how deep into the draft

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<v Speaker 5>before we got anything that really caught us off guard.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess probably Moris at that nine to Dallas was

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<v Speaker 5>the first, and even that was like, oh, the other

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<v Speaker 5>Michigan guy to the new Michigan coach team. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I kind of said going in like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>doing pizza bats on long shots here, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of betting against certainty and intel. Well, the Intel was

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<v Speaker 5>bull's eye on everything. And it does seem like, I know,

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<v Speaker 5>we all kind of freaked out about the how many

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<v Speaker 5>years has it been since the Polo draft? Is that

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<v Speaker 5>like three years ago and now four years ago when

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<v Speaker 5>everything kept flipping around like the last twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 5>and I feel like maybe we've reacted too much to that,

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<v Speaker 5>and it sort of seems like we've read a couple

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<v Speaker 5>chalky ish drafts in a row now where I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe the intel is actually right and we kind of

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<v Speaker 5>know what we're doing here, so we ain't gain a

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<v Speaker 5>huge trades, we get a huge movement, no real big

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<v Speaker 5>player trades or anything. I don't if we got any

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<v Speaker 5>player trade off the top of my head from last night.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, it wasn't my best. We got the Nate

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<v Speaker 5>Aman call right, no top ten, I was right directionally

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<v Speaker 5>on YAXA. Lenderberg got the under but missed the top

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<v Speaker 5>ten by a spot, had a Cory top twenty but

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<v Speaker 5>missed the top fifteen by a couple of spots. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, not my finest decent overall.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm staying away from number two bets overall from now on.

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<v Speaker 3>I have missed so many times on this number two pick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's that I can always be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I see why the number one guy is going number one,

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<v Speaker 3>and the number two is always where I always have

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<v Speaker 3>question marks. I'm like, really, you're gonna take chet Holgrind

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<v Speaker 3>really really really, And because he's like absolutely, we're taking

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<v Speaker 3>Chee Holgrid with the jazz, I was like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>pass on Camera Mooser when your dad worked there, and

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<v Speaker 3>like like he's such a great fit and like he's

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<v Speaker 3>the better player. Yeah, no, we're gonna pass on him.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna Takedarn Peterson. We want to guard that average

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<v Speaker 3>one point five assist per game is what we want.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's gonna praise us and think that we did awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>I like you mentioned, I am just I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>funny the drafts hype cycle because it's like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>draft is so amazing. That was what we heard, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh it's so amazing. Like yeah, last year was just

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<v Speaker 3>like the Cooper Flag Draft, and I like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of those guys. I think better than a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these guys, and this year was like, oh, there's like

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<v Speaker 3>so much talent all the way through, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I I'm I'm not gonna like make Brold

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<v Speaker 3>proclamations because like these guys that I'm not high on

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<v Speaker 3>could be awesome. I have never a lotted myself as

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<v Speaker 3>a draft expert. I don't see the things that I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people see. I'm also way more

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<v Speaker 3>concerned with like the off court stuff, Like that's always

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<v Speaker 3>where I wan was, like, do you fit the culture?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you about the things that your team wants you

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<v Speaker 3>to be about? Like, if you're a team that's like

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<v Speaker 3>we're super professional, you need to be focused on basketball

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<v Speaker 3>and basketball only. Are you, Oh, we're a family atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>you need to really be into like bonding and like

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<v Speaker 3>emotional maturity, right, like these types of things. And then

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<v Speaker 3>like I guess if you're a Utah, you're just like

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<v Speaker 3>dribble dribble, dribble, dribble.

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<v Speaker 6>Shoot.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm sorry, we gotta stop making take a shots

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<v Speaker 3>to Darren Peterson. But like, you know, there's just these

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<v Speaker 3>different things that I care about. Like I'm just not

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not like, oh, man, the has got Kingston Flemings.

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<v Speaker 3>But I may say him in summer league or in

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<v Speaker 3>the first week of the season and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Kingston Flemings entirely possible. But like, I don't see this

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<v Speaker 3>as a transformational draft. You were already on this like

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<v Speaker 3>you just are not. You do not view this draft

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<v Speaker 3>as one that we were going to talk about for

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<v Speaker 3>years to come as man, can you believe that draft?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm just kind of in between on it.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I don't think it's a bad draft by any stretch.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like when we talk about what makes a

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<v Speaker 5>great draft, usually it's one of two things. Either it's

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<v Speaker 5>that there is this like collection of a few absolute

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<v Speaker 5>stars at the top, or it's that it's this really

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<v Speaker 5>deep draft and there's just so many guys, so many

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<v Speaker 5>impactful dudes. And I think that the perception of this

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<v Speaker 5>draft is the former. I think it's that we have

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<v Speaker 5>these three potentially four guys at the top that he's

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<v Speaker 5>absolute stars, and you and I both are just like

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<v Speaker 5>it's a little bit lower on them, Like I we

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<v Speaker 5>just have some concerns about them. I'm not even sure

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like there's a clear number one guy in

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<v Speaker 5>the draft, number one on a team. I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of like second and third guys. Well, look

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<v Speaker 5>you look around the league, who are our best players

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<v Speaker 5>right now? Like Wemby of course is number one pick,

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<v Speaker 5>but Shae. No one thought Shaye was number one coming out.

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<v Speaker 5>No one thought Jokic was a number one coming out.

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<v Speaker 5>No one thought Janis was a number one coming out. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>we don't know, but of these guys at the top,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not quite there. And I just didn't love the

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<v Speaker 5>depth of the draft. Even by the end of the

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<v Speaker 5>first round, I was already kind of like half zoning out,

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<v Speaker 5>paying more attention to the Columbia match by them.

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, I think it's a fine draft.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it wouldn't surprise me to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we've got like what seven eight nine point guards that

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<v Speaker 5>are that are like really talented and have a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of potential.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's a fun draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I'm excited to see some of these dudes play

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<v Speaker 5>in Summer League and like, as someone that does pay

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<v Speaker 5>attention in March Madness and a little bit into the

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<v Speaker 5>high school and McDonald's All Star or whatever, it's always

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<v Speaker 5>kind of a fun feeling in summer league and in

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<v Speaker 5>preseason when it's like, oh my gosh, you know Flemings,

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<v Speaker 5>have you seen this? I'm like, yeah, man, for like

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<v Speaker 5>two years, he's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's exciting to see some of those names and

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<v Speaker 5>some of that and to be on the other side too.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't as much draft time anymore, so I get

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<v Speaker 5>to do that now with some of the guys as well.

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<v Speaker 5>And so yeah, I think it's not too dump on

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<v Speaker 5>the field if you're if you're here to be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fired up my team drafted this guy, Like we're

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<v Speaker 5>not trying to dump on that. I just I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know that this is a change the league draft. But

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know that we ever know that in a

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<v Speaker 5>draft until it's you know, five.

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<v Speaker 6>And ten years later.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think it's a good drafting. It's not a

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<v Speaker 5>great draft. You're traveling, I think tonight during the second round,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not. But I have like three other things on

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<v Speaker 5>my to do calendar list, Like I don't know that

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<v Speaker 5>I will watch one minute of the second round tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>And we are the NBA analysts, so like that's not

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<v Speaker 5>being lazy at our jobs. Just there's there are not

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<v Speaker 5>names we need to find out about tonight. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>send me the email afterward.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and like there will be good players selected, Like

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<v Speaker 3>there will be a good player there's that are chosen tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>There have been MVPs that have been chosen in the

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<v Speaker 3>second round there have been Hall of famers chosen in

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<v Speaker 3>the second round, but I am not. I will just

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<v Speaker 3>say like, I am not good enough and do not

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<v Speaker 3>have the capacity to be able to provide meaningful analysis

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<v Speaker 3>off of it. There's guys I like in the second

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<v Speaker 3>round because I've done a cursory glance at him, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not. It is not a matter of not caring

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<v Speaker 3>about the second round. It is a matter of well

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<v Speaker 3>for me, it's like I am, by the way, just

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<v Speaker 3>as like a thing that the viewers, I am taking

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<v Speaker 3>my son to a thing called vig Con this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Miles is going to be there, so is Victor Oladipo.

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<v Speaker 3>I found out I had no intention of doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's your order on those two CJ. Miles and Victor Oladipo, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the other way.

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<v Speaker 4>That is the order that my wife described them to me.

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<v Speaker 3>She told me that they were there. My son wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be a streamer. He wants to stream like he's

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<v Speaker 3>a video game. He's a gamer, and so he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to stream, and so we're going to a big con

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<v Speaker 3>for him to learn more about streaming. And every time

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<v Speaker 3>I have been like, hey, you know, like he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to learn how to be a great on

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<v Speaker 3>camera streamer. And I'm like, you know, like I like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I And he's like, no, not like what

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<v Speaker 3>you do like and like he doesn't say it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell he's like, you know, like good popular ones.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, Okay, that's fine, it's fine kid. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>let's talk about riock of the Year. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 3>some bets off the top and talk about this what

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<v Speaker 3>I will go over the market. I'm surprised I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not up at Calshi, which is very surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>That's surprising. Yeah, it's not up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's only been up at like three books that I've

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<v Speaker 5>seen so far too. I believe I've seen it at DraftKings,

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<v Speaker 5>FanDuel and maybe about three six five, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>that's about it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'll get the.

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<v Speaker 3>DK since the most popular, I'll give their their board here.

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<v Speaker 3>Cameron Boozer is the favorite of plus two forty. A. J.

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<v Speaker 3>Debonca comes in at plus three hundred number one pick,

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<v Speaker 3>and Darren Peterson at plus three thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Darius A.

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<v Speaker 3>Cuff Woop Pig is at plus five fifty. Kale Wilson

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<v Speaker 3>at twelve to one, Michael Brown at fourteen to one,

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<v Speaker 3>Keaton Waggler at twenty Woggler, Keaton Woggler, There you Go

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty five to one, and Yaxel Lindenborg at thirty

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<v Speaker 3>to one. Brandon sends me pronunciation corrections after the show

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<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't want to be impolite during the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm always like, just correct me in show because

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<v Speaker 3>I feel this way about the way I do about

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<v Speaker 3>There's an old joke about this where you're not a

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<v Speaker 3>person until you're in the phone book. That's no longer

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<v Speaker 3>a things. Phone books don't exist. You're not you're I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care about your name U till you're announced on

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<v Speaker 3>starting night, that's the opening night. That's how I feel

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<v Speaker 3>about the children in college.

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<v Speaker 4>Give me your read on the Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so, let me just do the usual profile, but

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<v Speaker 5>the very rapid fire bullet point thing, you know how

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<v Speaker 5>I do so Rookie of the Year fifteen points a

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<v Speaker 5>game or more, twenty five per or more, usually pushing thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>Since the nineteen fifties, only four Rookie of the year

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<v Speaker 5>outside the top ten draft picks. Sorry Jack Selenderberg, you're

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<v Speaker 5>number eleven, you're out. Eighty percent of all rookies of

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<v Speaker 5>the year top five picks, almost half are just the

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<v Speaker 5>number one pick. Just look just last year when everyone

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<v Speaker 5>thought all he's long, it was kan Kin Nipple, and

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<v Speaker 5>then it was just Cooper Flag and number one guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Because people want to have the legacy pick, they want

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<v Speaker 5>to be on the right side of history. They want

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<v Speaker 5>to vote for the.

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<v Speaker 6>Guy they think is best.

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<v Speaker 5>Eleven of the last eighteen rookies of the year, we're

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<v Speaker 5>top three picks. Three more we're number four. Three more

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<v Speaker 5>were rookies that won when Mobili was hurt and Blake

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<v Speaker 5>was hurt and Ebiid was hurt. So that's seventeen out

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<v Speaker 5>of eighteen years that it was just a top four

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<v Speaker 5>pick or should have been a top four pick. That's

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<v Speaker 5>what we're looking at. The board is not deep and long.

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<v Speaker 5>Here this was a four player draftmat I think it's

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<v Speaker 5>like all the data says, look at four names and

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<v Speaker 5>that's the end of this. And he usually also says

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<v Speaker 5>things like winning in defense and advanced metrics don't matter.

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<v Speaker 5>But in the last decade or so, that seems to

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<v Speaker 5>be trending differently to where we kind of care about

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<v Speaker 5>that stuff. And then the last thing all was I

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<v Speaker 5>think is important. And this is why I was on

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<v Speaker 5>Cooper last year. Among you know, he's pretty good, pretty

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<v Speaker 5>easy choice. Seven of the last ten rookies of the

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<v Speaker 5>year were what you or I would call an offensive engine,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy with the ball in his hands, the guy's

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<v Speaker 5>doing stuff for the team. So that's just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a good baseline Rookie of the year.

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<v Speaker 6>I think two.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't have to go bet it right now. It

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<v Speaker 5>is a long season ahead. You're on to listen to

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<v Speaker 5>a betting show the day after. I know you want

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<v Speaker 5>to bet it right now. But for reference, Cooper Flagg

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<v Speaker 5>last year, who I told you is who should win

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<v Speaker 5>Rookie of the Year was minus four hundred Rookie of

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<v Speaker 5>the Year on Draft Night and the opener when I

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<v Speaker 5>told you to bet him in the podcast show we did,

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<v Speaker 5>he was minus one seventy. He's gonna like Boozer was

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<v Speaker 5>plus two eighty last night, Matt DraftKings. That's what I

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<v Speaker 5>have in my notes. He's already down to plus two

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<v Speaker 5>to forty. Boozer is the right pick. Boozer is who

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<v Speaker 5>you want to pick for Rookie of the year. He's

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<v Speaker 5>the right guy, but it's already getting steamed down. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's Boozer and Debanza. I like shocking news

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<v Speaker 5>here to come in with these two names. I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's one of those two. I think that's the right order.

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<v Speaker 5>I think A Cuff is third, but I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to pick him yet because he's gonna have to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you got lev and tomorrow, Keegans, the Bonds. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know who all will be there, but you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 5>to get some shots later. Boozer and the Bonds are

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<v Speaker 5>gonna get their numbers.

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<v Speaker 6>I like Boozer. The whole thing with Cam.

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<v Speaker 5>Boozer is he's productive, he's got a floor. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get the points and the rebounds, and he's he's a

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<v Speaker 5>good passer. I think he's like looking at I don't know, JJ.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year was nineteen six and two. I think Boozer

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<v Speaker 5>is a better rebounder, He's a better passer. How about

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<v Speaker 5>like eighteen eight and three or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's Rookie of the Year numbers that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>in the mix. AJ is not necessarily going to add,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I love it, Matt not just points, points, rebounds, assists. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you're not going to fill it up on those two.

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<v Speaker 5>And Darren Peters is not going to fill it up

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<v Speaker 5>on those two. In Capabileson's just not gonna get the

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<v Speaker 5>numbers yet.

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<v Speaker 6>He's raw.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's just Boozer, and I know that's boring,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think that's where we have to start. I

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<v Speaker 5>still know if you have to bet it yet right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I want to bet it right now, right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So a couple of things I think are interesting about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start here. Uh, you're right when you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the Memphis profile, I worry a little bit about with

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<v Speaker 3>their offensive system, about Boozer getting lost. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of what my concern is. Like as a Memphis guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I was ecstatic that they got Boozer. He's the guy

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<v Speaker 3>that I thought was number one. I think he should

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<v Speaker 3>have been number one, clearly. I talked about this repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 3>So like my favorite team, I don't worry different Nuggets

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<v Speaker 3>hat got the best player I think of the draft

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<v Speaker 3>that's really exciting. Their system is not like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>view them as like we're going to clear the decks

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<v Speaker 3>and make Cam Boozer the guy. They love love, love,

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<v Speaker 3>love love the love Zach Edy. Like I really can't

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<v Speaker 3>express express how much I've heard, Like this is just

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<v Speaker 3>stuff I've heard from sources of how much they love

0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.560
<v Speaker 3>Zach Edy, and I worry about that taking away from

0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Boozer's availability. Ceter Coward's really good. This is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be more of a centric Coward team. I think Ty

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<v Speaker 3>Jerome gets promoted to the starting unit next year, with

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<v Speaker 3>John Morant likely being dealt with some second rounders. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like Ty Jerome and Jalen Wells and Cedric Coward

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<v Speaker 3>and Cam Boozer and Zach Edy. Now I love that lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm like, God, that's so fun and awesome, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you had the right coach, I would believe in

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<v Speaker 3>that absolutely, But they have Twelmas silo, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>am very worried about that. I will think on this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're I don't think you're wrong. I understand

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<v Speaker 3>why you view it, because you're just like, look, he's

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<v Speaker 3>just gonna get the points in the rebounds and assist,

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<v Speaker 3>and Brandon is right about the rebounds and assists, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I've argued about that with him and before, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>just right, Like it does help. What's funny is like

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<v Speaker 3>Cooper won last year not because of the rebounds and assists.

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<v Speaker 3>He won because of the scoring. That was the big

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<v Speaker 3>thing that he did last year, which was surprising to us.

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<v Speaker 3>We were all like, he's gonna be this guy that

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<v Speaker 3>does a lot of different things, and instead it was like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like a scorer who also happens to rebound and

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<v Speaker 3>assists really well. I think as his career progresses, he'll

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<v Speaker 3>get better at those other categories. I actually worried more

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<v Speaker 3>about his scoring efficiency, but I do think it matters

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<v Speaker 3>just from the perspective of if you can't impact the

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<v Speaker 3>game in other ways, like Con was a score that's

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<v Speaker 3>what he was, and Con probably got screwed because of

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<v Speaker 3>the playing tournament and the way that they did the

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<v Speaker 3>entire thing, which is nonsense, but still I do think

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<v Speaker 3>that the contributions that Flag made otherwise stuck in people's

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<v Speaker 3>heads to the point where even if you're like we

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't as good of a rebounder or passer as we

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<v Speaker 3>thought he was. No, but he was still a rebounder

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<v Speaker 3>and a sister.

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<v Speaker 5>So let me ask this then, as a response to that,

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<v Speaker 5>as you're processing I think those are all good points.

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<v Speaker 5>I really agree with all of it. I think that's

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<v Speaker 5>a good point about the Boozer fit. I do you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like it or not, Zach Edy, you kind of have

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<v Speaker 5>to assume like forty games at this point or something.

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<v Speaker 5>So maybe that's like a wait for when Edy inevitably

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<v Speaker 5>gets hurt and then Boozer suddenly like doubles his rebounding

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<v Speaker 5>after that, how many Let's assume I'm directionally right on

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<v Speaker 5>aj Debonsa is not going to fill it up on rebounds,

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<v Speaker 5>and assess he's going to get some rebounds.

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<v Speaker 6>He's a big dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's say like four or five rebounds a game and

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<v Speaker 5>like one or two assess non meaningful numbers. Boozers got

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<v Speaker 5>him in those categories. But I said on the show

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<v Speaker 5>we just did the other day, I think the bounds

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<v Speaker 5>that can win the scoring title someday. I think you

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<v Speaker 5>could average thirty points a game, and the Wizard's got

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of scoring to go around. Like Trey's gonna get

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<v Speaker 5>his shots up. Anthony Davis, if he's there, is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get some points. But like they got a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>defensive dudes, the bounds is gonna get chances to score,

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<v Speaker 5>and he's already a pretty lethal scorer, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have some big games. He's gonna have a forty point

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<v Speaker 5>game this year. You know he'd have a fifty point

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<v Speaker 5>game if I told you X number of points, five

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<v Speaker 5>rebounds to assess, one and a half, assess whatever. How

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<v Speaker 5>many points does Age have to do to beat the

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<v Speaker 5>A boozer eighteen eight and three in a Rookie of

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<v Speaker 5>the Year race as the number one pick on the

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<v Speaker 5>Wizards is it is the magic number twenty because we

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<v Speaker 5>love twenty in round numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, it's twenty four. The line is twenty four point

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<v Speaker 4>five and two.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 5>I think twenty puts you in play, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>if you get to twenty two or twenty three, you're

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<v Speaker 5>just the clear favorite at that point. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that that's possible, which is why I have him not

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<v Speaker 5>too far off, I will say too at last I

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<v Speaker 5>saw if you like aj if you want to bet

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<v Speaker 5>him right now, he is four to one at bet

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<v Speaker 5>three six five. I don't mind that. I don't know

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.840
<v Speaker 5>that that price is gonna get a lot cleaner by

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<v Speaker 5>start of the season. So to me, it's it's only

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<v Speaker 5>one of those two.

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<v Speaker 6>I bet right now? Are you there?

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<v Speaker 5>Would you if I gave you hypothetically Boozer or Debonzo

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<v Speaker 5>wins Rookie of the Year plus one fifty? Would you

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<v Speaker 5>consider that ticket?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I take it absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So who's who gave me a third? Who if it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's Boozer and Debounds that didn't win it? Who won

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<v Speaker 5>Rookie of the Year, what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>It's Darren Peterson?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is an interesting question. So a good question

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<v Speaker 3>is the Jazz have all these weapons that are veterans

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<v Speaker 3>on big contracts.

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<v Speaker 4>You said they're usually the engine of the team.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the three of them, I kind of thinkar and

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Peterson might wind up the engine. Interesting, Keyante George is there,

0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.439
<v Speaker 3>and Kyante's awesome. He's phenomenal, He's great. Like, I think

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 3>it's such a great story that last year even Jazz

0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:12.640
<v Speaker 3>people were like, yeah, we don't if he's gonna stick,

0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.639
<v Speaker 3>And then he was a serious most Improved Player candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>He was so good last year.

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<v Speaker 3>You there is a lot of talk that they might

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<v Speaker 3>trade Lari Markanin. I think that they have a have

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<v Speaker 3>a glut and they're trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>work this out. They will have two, not three, of

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<v Speaker 3>market in Jackson Kessler. So if Kessler gets sniped in

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 3>restricted free agency, I think markann In and JJJ stay

0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.040
<v Speaker 3>and Jaren starts at the five, and that's not good.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's another question for another day. If they do

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<v Speaker 3>keep Kessler, they trade market in and it's Jackson as

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive presence, shot blocker, finisher and Kessler as the

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<v Speaker 3>center doing all the rebounding riom protection.

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<v Speaker 4>The reo protection will be elite, then, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I still kind of look at this and go, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that you only take Darren Peterson if you are like,

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 3>this is the best player. This kid's gonna get the keys.

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<v Speaker 3>And if I am wrong about everything with Peterson, because

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<v Speaker 3>like I am lower on him than almost everyone else,

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<v Speaker 3>but all of my stuff is based off of like

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<v Speaker 3>this is not how I would build a team. I

0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 3>would not build a team around a guy that averaged

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<v Speaker 3>one point five assist per game.

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<v Speaker 4>I would not do that.

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 3>That is not a thing I would do with a guard.

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you play point guard or shooting

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<v Speaker 3>guard or small guard or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I would not do that.

0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't like building your own Kansas wings all of

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<v Speaker 3>these things. But Peterson, by pure skill set, is gonna

0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:45.159
<v Speaker 3>score a ton in the regular season. And if you

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 3>ask me to give the if there was a market

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.119
<v Speaker 3>for which player Boozer de Bonsa Peterson will have the

0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:56.960
<v Speaker 3>most thirty plus games, I'm absolutely gonna bet Peterson. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I realized that, I realized I probably need to

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 3>bet Darren Peterson for Rookie of the Year. Like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a world where you're totally right and he's just like

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.360
<v Speaker 3>a guy where it's like the team has been led

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:12.800
<v Speaker 3>by Keyante and Jackson and Kessler in the pick and roll,

0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.639
<v Speaker 3>or Laurie's there and Lori's shooting a lot, Like there

0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.440
<v Speaker 3>is absolutely a world for that, but directionally for them

0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 3>to take a player who did not work out for them,

0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 3>whose agent did not want him to go there because

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:28.720
<v Speaker 3>he's also the agent for Kiante George who for them

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<v Speaker 3>to take all of the risks that are inherent with

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Darren Peterson, you have to be like, this kid is

0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.560
<v Speaker 3>going to be the truth. And that makes me want

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<v Speaker 3>to bet Darren Peterson for Rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not like Angel has ever been afraid

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<v Speaker 5>to take the swing on the thing that he was

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<v Speaker 5>certain of before. So there's you and I both scout

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.160
<v Speaker 5>what we've seen in college this year. But the guys

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 5>who have been scouting Peterson four years, the guys who

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.640
<v Speaker 5>followed him a lot in high school, are the ones

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.359
<v Speaker 5>who have been the highest on Peterson, and that whatever

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.680
<v Speaker 5>the injury was this year was taking away from what

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.480
<v Speaker 5>he could do, from his burst, from his getting to

0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.320
<v Speaker 5>the rim, from his passing. I will say too, I

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.639
<v Speaker 5>was betting Peterson anders On assists over and over and

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 5>over again because it was just like a money print

0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 5>for a while. I'm gonna put at least part of

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 5>that in Bill Sealth. Bill self tends to really like decide.

0:22:19.920 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 6>This is your role, this is who you are. You're

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<v Speaker 6>being this thing.

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 5>And Peterson was not the point guard, and he was

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 5>not the passer, and it was clear that his job

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 5>was to get buckets and that's what he was supposed

0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.040
<v Speaker 5>to do. I don't know how much of that is

0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 5>he's just wired that way, and how much of that

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 5>is Coach said, So I think it's probably a little

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:39.160
<v Speaker 5>bit of both, But I want to be a little

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 5>cautious there. If I'm wrong about Peterson, I think it's

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 5>because a lot of those things.

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 6>I just said.

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<v Speaker 5>My question for you is a lot of folks I

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 5>think you included are very high in the Jazz this year.

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 5>I've seen a lot of like Jazz fifty wins. Jazz

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 5>are gonna like there. I saw on on espon this

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 5>morning they're talking about outside of the Thunder and the Spurs,

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 5>the Jazz are the team with the best young collection

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:04.159
<v Speaker 5>of talent in the league. Now I'm not there, like

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna do winners and losers a little bit. The

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 5>Jazz are my number one loser. I did not like

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 5>Darren Peterson. I did not have them in my top

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 5>tier of guys. They took him second. They took Ace

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.359
<v Speaker 5>Bailey top five last year, who I have rated very

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.120
<v Speaker 5>similarly and had very so like, these are black hole

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 5>guys who I don't think improve teams or make.

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 6>Other players better.

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 5>They're the the exact sort of guy I want to fade,

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:29.120
<v Speaker 5>and they just stake their entire future on both of them,

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 5>same style of player in that way back to back.

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 5>I have to give that as like the worst grade

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 5>in my draft for me, and I like it drives

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 5>me crazy. Draft analysts they're like, oh, great, pick a

0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 5>great pick a minus great pick a like make a decision,

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.840
<v Speaker 5>be unhappy about someone. I'm unhappy about the Jazz. I

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 5>don't like the guys. I don't think they're gonna be

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:54.120
<v Speaker 5>good this year because everything rookie Darren Peterson and sophomore

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 5>Ace Bailey do is going to make them a worse

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 5>NBA team.

0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 6>That doesn't mean they can't be even.

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Good later, but the history of these sort of dudes

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 5>early in their career being positive players is like virtually

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 5>non existent. It's very very low. So to you, are

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 5>you high on the Jazz? Do you want to bet

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:16.400
<v Speaker 5>the Jazz over? And if Peterson wins Rookie of the Year,

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 5>if he gets those thirty point games, what version of

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 5>the Jazz season played out to you?

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:25.160
<v Speaker 4>I will wait on the team on the win total.

0:24:25.359 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I want to see what they do in free agency,

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 3>right because like, if they bring back Kessler and Jackson,

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 3>they'll bring up Jackson. If they bring back Kessler, I

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 3>likely will like the over because the number will be

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 3>lower if they trade Laurie. If they keep Lori and

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 3>trade Kessler, I will want the under because I think

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:44.680
<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be like fifty one and a half, and

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 3>I'll want.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 4>The under there.

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 3>That is my read on where they're at. Darren does

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 3>not move me from a wins perspective. And you know,

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 3>if you want proof that winning doesn't matter, see last year,

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 3>big score, big points, win Rookie of you Year.

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 4>That is that is lesson from last year.

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm asking the opposite direction, though I'm not worried about

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 5>do the Jazz win enough for him to win Rookie

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 5>of the Year? I agree, not not a fact if

0:25:11.000 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 5>he wins Rookie of the Year. Do the Jazz win

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 5>enough to be as good as people think they're good?

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.880
<v Speaker 3>No? I still think that he can put up games

0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 3>where it's like, oh my god, did you see it?

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 3>And then then like you and me are gonna be

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>here being like yeah true shooting is like we're just

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna be those annoying people are gonna be the spreadsheet nerds,

0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 3>and that's fine. That's like our lot in life. Let's

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 3>so we've talked about this. Uh Brandon thinks boozer is

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 3>the right number, but you should wait.

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 6>Uh de Bonsa.

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 3>I will say that this number goes, it gets shorter

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 3>if they trade Anthony Davis. It seems logical to me

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 3>to trade logical Anthony Davis, but I thought it was

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 3>logical to trade him at all points. I never want

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Davis on my team, so I think they should

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 3>trade him immediately because he doesn't believe in the squad.

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>People think that the tray the tray contract is like

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 3>that indicates something, and I don't know that that's true.

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 3>I think they might just pay both of them.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:03.440
<v Speaker 6>They shouldn't.

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be very clear on this. I'm

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 3>very bummed as a wiz hi've guy just be like,

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and you did the thing where you overpay for the

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.879
<v Speaker 3>guys with big names. You give them more years and

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>more money. Cool, Like all of the stuff I loved

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 3>about them is getting eradicated by this.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 4>But we'll see. I'll watch the movement price on De

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:21.160
<v Speaker 4>Bonsa if the movie.

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 3>If the number doesn't go down after, if Davis gets traded,

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 3>then I'll want I will want an aj ticket.

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 5>By the way, I gave you the theoretical plus one

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 5>fifty on both of those.

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 6>I did the math.

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 5>If de Bonds is four to one, if that ticket's

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 5>still there and Boozer is plus two forty, you're basically

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 5>getting Boozer to Bonds of versus the field. It's like

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 5>forty nine percent to get those too, So I think

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 5>that that's priced. I think the whole thing is priced

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 5>relatively accurately. Like I don't see a lot of value here.

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 5>I think Boozer to bonds of versus the field is

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 5>it's a pretty good, pretty good line by the books.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 5>As much as I don't give them a credit for

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 5>the lines, I think that's pretty good. Let me throw

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 5>one long shot name out just because we love our

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 5>long shots. Long shots Rookie of the year and not

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:02.880
<v Speaker 5>the way to bet it. But I tried to find

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 5>somebody last I saw fifty five to one at DraftKings.

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 5>How about Braidon Berry's almost entirely on look, I don't

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 5>even love Braidon Burry's. I had him like barely in

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 5>my lottery. The Bucks don't have anybody. The Bucks have nobody.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 5>Someone has to do something for the Bucks, and I

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 5>don't know he gets to like sixteen four and four.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:25.639
<v Speaker 5>Like I saw a lot of sites have Braidon Burry's

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.159
<v Speaker 5>listed among their point guard prospects. That dude is not

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 5>a point guard, but I don't know. The Bucks try

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 5>to have dudes play point guards. Sometimes they're not point guards.

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 5>And if he gets the numbers, and if the top

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 5>guys really aren't as impressive as we think that they

0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 5>might be, I don't know. Someone gotta do stats for

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 5>the Bucks. How about Braiden Burry's fifty five to one.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 3>League pass Obsessives listening to this podcast right now a

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 3>screaming the name Ryan Rawlins at you. They are screaming

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.479
<v Speaker 3>Rawlins at you right now, And that's why I wouldn't

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 3>bet it is. I think they really believe in Rawlins.

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I think Rawlins like there's also a possibility they.

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 4>Just keep Hero. I think they keep Hero.

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the does, I will throw a long shot, Okay,

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Keaton Woggler, Clippers trade Kawhi. It's Darius Garland and Woggler

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 3>along with a pretty good team that still got some

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 3>better in talent on it more room.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:17.639
<v Speaker 4>Don't mind that, don't mind twenty five to one on

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 4>keithon Woggler. I might sprinkle a little bit on that.

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Let's do some ropid fire stuff and let's start talking

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 3>about Let's start with here.

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 4>Give me your winners from the draft last night.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, my number one winner has got to

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 5>be the Warriors because Jax Lendenberg, just like I know,

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 5>I know that I'm a caricature of myself, but that

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 5>was my favorite pick in the draft. I said him

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 5>to the Warriors or Thunder before the draft. He like,

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 5>if you built a player in the lab for Steve Kerr,

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 5>it would be Yaxa Lenderberg. This movement, offense, switchable defense.

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 5>I literally compared him to Draymond Green by the way

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 5>that he not style of play, but his his brash leadership,

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 5>the way that he is going to bring to the team,

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 5>just a jackknife both sides of the ball. And I

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 5>love also, I know, I know it's risky to take

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 5>a guy that is going to be twenty four in

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 5>opening night, that the history of that in the NBA

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 5>draft is very, very bad. I have to assume that's

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 5>going to start swinging slowly the other way as we

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.720
<v Speaker 5>get guys that are older with nil So maybe we

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 5>can be in front of that. But what I love

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.239
<v Speaker 5>especially is the Warriors have no cap room and if

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 5>Landerbergh is actually the thing he's supposed to be, if

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.840
<v Speaker 5>you go and sign that dude at age twenty four

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 5>in free agency, you're going to pay like three to

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 5>five times the price that they're getting this rookie scale

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 5>deal for to come in and contribute right away, so

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.240
<v Speaker 5>I have to love that. That's my favorite fit. I

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 5>love the Bulls pick Caleb Wilson, who both who I

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 5>think is a possible number one player in the draft.

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 5>They move up to number four. It's already like, I

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 5>can't be wrong spot because it's a four player draft

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:50.959
<v Speaker 5>and I just took the fourth guy. So I love

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 5>that for them, and it's a possible superstar, you know,

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 5>face the franchise. I wasn't big on Dalen Swain, but

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 5>I never really am mad about you taking us on

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 5>a wing player. I like that they took him, not

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 5>Cameron Carr, who I think is not the fit for Chicago.

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 5>You want the upside swing. I think you have to

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 5>be happy with the Grizzlies. Like you said, Boozer was

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 5>number one on a whole lot of draft boards out there.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 5>They get him at third, they replace Jaron with him.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know a ton about Kareem Lopez, who they

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 5>traded down twice for. What I do know is they

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 5>traded down five spots and a dead zone of the

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 5>draft and picked up five second round picks bat against uncertainty.

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Who knows if the guy they got five spots earlier

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 5>was going to be Kream Lopez anyway, that's just good

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 5>business moving down. Just other rapid fire names.

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 6>I liked.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 5>Oklahoma City was rumored to be moving up packaging their

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 5>picks to go get a Day Mara.

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 6>They got him. They have to move up at all.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 5>That's a win for them to just fall into the

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 5>guy that everyone thought was the wemby possible answer. I

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 5>don't know that he is, but they have to do

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 5>anything to get him. By the way, that was a

0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 5>pick from the PG trade, Matt. So now they've tallied

0:30:59.720 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 5>out of the PG trade Shay JDW Cason and Mara,

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 5>among other things. So good job on that. They went

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:08.960
<v Speaker 5>up and got Bennett Sturtz. Just a tiny price for that.

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 5>I think that's a beneficial pick for them. They also

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 5>got Jared McCain in this draft, by the way. Don't

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 5>forget that he was one of the picks that they

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 5>traded to get here.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 6>So I like that for them.

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Lakers Kim Karr, I like that FID just movement shooter

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 5>with length. Luca Lebron like, that's the guy you want there.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 5>Sixers ended up getting file on who we both were

0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 5>high on that's the McCain pick. That's what they traded for.

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 5>So I guess it kind of worked out there and

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 5>then sneaky winner. I think the Pacers have to feel

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 5>pretty good about the trade they made. They the gambit

0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 5>they did on we're protecting our top four. If we

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 5>miss out on it, you get the pick. I don't

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 5>love Keton Woggler as the number five pick. I don't

0:31:48.560 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 5>love the finn the Clippers. I would not bet him

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 5>for a Rookie of the Year. I think that the

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Pacers are like, that's fine, man, we lost out on Woggler.

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:59.000
<v Speaker 5>We went got Zobach that we wanted the top four guys.

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 5>We missed it. I think you got the eighth, the

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 5>twelfth best player in the draft. That's fine, We're fine

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 5>with that. I think that they lucked out here, uh

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 5>very quickly.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>I have the Warriors as one of my losers because

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 3>here's a couple of things. So Yak started playing at eighteen.

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 3>That screams a guy who doesn't love basketball, and then

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, you're tall, you can make a lot

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 3>of money. Cool. His biggest question mark is his intensity

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 3>and complacency. Those are like a question marks for he

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 3>tends to drift quite a bit. He's an emotional guy,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 3>but he's got like he's His consistency is an issue defensively.

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.960
<v Speaker 3>He's older and he's complacent. Steve Kurr is gonna bench

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 3>this kid. You're not gonna see y Axel Lendenborg next. Sure,

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.440
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna see him, Brandon. I'm glad you like

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 3>the fits excellent on court thing.

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 6>This is not true about him, Kerr, Kerr.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 5>He is not a complacent player. He is a Draymond

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 5>Green type player. He is a competitive player. He is

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 5>a guy that gets criticized for not showing up in

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 5>practice because the dude just wants to go compete in

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 5>actual games and play.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 6>I love, for better or for worse, he is on

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 6>the team that is.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 5>The absolute perfect mentor for the style of player and

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 5>mentality and emotion that he is in Draymond Green. It's

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 5>another Michigan guy for the Michigan State guy to go

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 5>punch in practice. I'm telling you right now minus one thousand,

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 5>sometime during training camp, we're gonna get Raymond and Butler

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 5>and Jacks in some sort of dust up and everyone's

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 5>gonna freak out.

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 6>And be like he's getting benched, he's gonna get traded. No,

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 6>he's not.

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 5>That's exactly what these dudes on this team are. He's

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 5>exact fit with Butler and Draymond. I love the ft.

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 4>We got to make a side bet on how much

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 4>how much he's playing next year.

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee you a guy that doesn't want to put

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 3>the work in in practice, you think Steve Kerr is

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna reward him, that's not gonna happen. Now.

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 5>He came late to basketball is also an upside to me.

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.719
<v Speaker 5>It tells me that there's more road to Rogers Van

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 5>being tooled.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 3>That's the Draftnick thing is like, but he was late,

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 3>so like there's all this potential. This is like what

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>happens when you focus on all of the stuff that's

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>like on tape, and it's just like there's all this

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 3>other stuff. The tape stuff is great, but there's just

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>all this other stuff that goes into NBA teams. I

0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>agree with you on I agree with you on Bulls,

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you on Grizzlies. I agree with you

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 3>on Lakers. I agree with you on Sixers, I agree

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.319
<v Speaker 3>with you on Pacers. I think that's totally fine for them,

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>like I like Woggler but for the Clippers, But I

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 3>don't think it's great for the for the Pacers, I

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>think this is totally fine. I don't know that there's

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>like another hit that I'm like, actually like, oh man,

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>what a great selection. It's not a guard because they

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>shooting and I get that. But I actually like the

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.919
<v Speaker 3>Alan Graves selection by the Toronto Raptors. I think that's

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 3>that fits in with a lot of what they're gonna

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 3>do and as they continue to shape their roster.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 5>Your losers, Brandon, I thought I thought we were losers

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 5>as fans. I thought it was just kind of a

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 5>boring brath night. I thought Shams was a loser.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Like it.

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.320
<v Speaker 6>We were like, I have free years.

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 5>I've been so mad that they spoil every pick, and

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.279
<v Speaker 5>suddenly I'm just like, I just got to sit here

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 5>like a loser and wait for them to go on

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 5>stage and tell me who's getting drafted.

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 3>What the heck?

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 5>Like Shawn's didn't gonna be part of the night barely.

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 5>That was kind of weird. I don't love the MAVs

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 5>what they did. I don't think Dusty May came in

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:10.440
<v Speaker 5>in twenty four hours later, it was like, my guy,

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 5>We're taking my guy. I don't think that's what happens.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 5>I just didn't like Morez Johnson that much. I thought

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 5>he was easily the worst top ten pick. I barely

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 5>had him in my top twenty. My comp for Mores Johnson.

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 5>Here's a throwback who is not expected to show up

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 5>on a podcast today, Amir Johnson. That's more Johnson is

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 5>he has. He has not have an offensive game at all.

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 5>He is a tough, stout defender who's gonna be good

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 5>for them. But why I specifically don't like this. I

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 5>think this was the worst of the three Michigan bigs

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 5>that from my draft board. I'm gonna assume that they

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 5>think differently there. This is probably your last top ten

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 5>pick you're gonna get for a long time with Cooper Flag.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 5>This was your last shot to add a big time talent,

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 5>and I just don't see Morez Johnson as a needle mover. So, Timmy,

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 5>I really disliked that one. Nate Amant has gotten some

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 5>craft from us in this draft. He's basically now the

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 5>centerpiece of the Jannis trade for the Bucks, So I

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 5>cannot be that excited about that. Theoretical in the proud

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 5>box tradition of Patrick Baldwin Junior, and thoughn maker that

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 5>that's when Nate Aman fits in to that team, So

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't love that. I didn't like the Spurs taking

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 5>a Quaintance and Terras Reid like you're you're going double

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 5>down on how many Wenby backups do you need on

0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 5>this team? Quaintance has already announced scheduled for surgery, probably

0:36:25.800 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 5>taking a red shirt season for the Spurs.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 6>That wasn't well.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 5>I don't know that was the problem, that they're just

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 5>trying to fix those those vaunted non Wemby minutes. I

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 5>don't know that these are the two guys for it,

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:40.359
<v Speaker 5>So I don't love that. And last I didn't love

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.399
<v Speaker 5>the Hornets. Hannes Steinbach as a lottery pick doesn't check

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 5>out for me. Kind of more of the same for them.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 5>He's an elite rebounder, but I don't think he's a

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 5>defensive position. Really, he's not a center, So I didn't

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.120
<v Speaker 5>love that. I do like Christian Anderson, but I don't

0:36:52.160 --> 0:36:54.800
<v Speaker 5>love him on the team. Just kind of weird fits.

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 5>And I just haven't loved how the Hornets are are

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.600
<v Speaker 5>as team builders, so not huge losers here because they

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 5>just weren't. Are we never gonna get draft reaches anymore?

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:37:05.200 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Can we take away some of the advanced metrics? Like

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 5>it's more fun when guys are bad at this and

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 5>we get to make fun of them the next time.

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 3>That's not true Brandon the Warriors. So yes, I think

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I like the Hawks too. By the way, I want

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 3>to say that I really like the Hawks that can

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:19.560
<v Speaker 3>zoo the Age of four. I liked that they weren't

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 3>just like gotta get another guard, like they already got

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 3>Kings to Fleming. Coming out of that with Flemings and

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Edge of four, I thought was a really good combo.

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 4>What we got right and wrong?

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 3>I'll just go first, Darren Peterson not going number two

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 3>was wrong about that. I gotta stop betting number two is.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm just gonna be like except that these gms are

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>just gonna be.

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Like, ooh, look at the dribble and how he shoots.

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh my, uh, that was wrong.

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I really thought Filon was going top fifteen. I really

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 3>thought Filon was going top fifteen. Him sliding surprised me.

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.319
<v Speaker 4>I got that way wrong. What else did you get wrong?

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean the main thing was just the the the

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 5>bets against certainty where this was not the time for it.

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.120
<v Speaker 5>So Caleb Boozer and No. Number four that wasn't the thing.

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Michael Brown as a possible follower, that wasn't a thing.

0:38:08.680 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 5>It just the ideas of maybe this won't happen after all.

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.800
<v Speaker 5>This just that was this was not the draft for it.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Maybe this maybe that era has passed in the in

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 5>draft intel, so that didn't go for me.

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:21.760
<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I feel like largely.

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 5>This like if somebody just sent over to you today

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 5>this draft result from last night, but what you were told,

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 5>here's another mock draft. I found this on thenet, you'd

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 5>be like, oh, okay, yeah, this looks like all the

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.920
<v Speaker 5>other ones. I've learned nothing here like it. Just it's

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.080
<v Speaker 5>a very generic result of the draft that like everything

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 5>kind of went about. If you just kind of like

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 5>click the random button and you're like, I got to

0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 5>enter a contest, who's my draft random? You just get

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 5>this and it'd be like, okay, sure, that seems fine.

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:52.719
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know that there were big, huge rights

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 5>or wrongs. It's just kind of this was sort of

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 5>the main which I was wrong big picture about that.

0:38:58.080 --> 0:38:59.920
<v Speaker 5>I kind of thought it'd be a chaos draft after

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 5>the top order. It was not chaos at all.

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest thing I think I learned here

0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 3>is actually I learned that I got to It's hard

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 3>for me to find time with the finals, but I

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 3>got to do better work on researching the politics from

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 3>a betting perspective. The biggest miss for me was how

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 3>did I possibly miss that? Jimmy Haslam is a University

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>of Tennessee graduate and donor. He just donated a two

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:30.720
<v Speaker 3>hundred and five million dollars to the university with his wife,

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 3>and Nata Ment was there, and we already know that

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 3>Haslam is interfering with basketball operations off of the honest trade.

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 3>It was a ridiculous miss by me to not know that,

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 3>to not be up on that, to not have made

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 3>that connection.

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:45.480
<v Speaker 4>I should have bet.

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Sergio Lorea to the Dale, Lorea to the Knicks. It's

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 3>a draft and stash player who's repped by CIA.

0:39:53.719 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 4>What am I doing? What am I doing? Why did

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 4>I not do that?

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:39:57.360 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Why would I not make that connection?

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 3>There are all these like political connections that if you

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>just do like a basic a basic set of research

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.279
<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna find these connections that are probably gonna

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.520
<v Speaker 3>lead a valuable debts, and I promise we'll do better

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 3>about that next year.

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 5>That said, the most obvious version of that was surely

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 5>the Jazz will either take the Utah kid to Bonza

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 5>or the Boozer kid, and they have to have at

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 5>least one of the like that was the most obvious

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 5>follow the clear Bread Trum's trail, and they chose options. See,

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that to like to rag on your pick.

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<v Speaker 5>It made a lot of sense. Like everybody in the

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<v Speaker 5>world thought Utah would take to Bonds or a boozer.

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<v Speaker 5>They got number two was perfect for them.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna fault too badly for the politics stuff

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<v Speaker 5>of it all, because I think these are the sort

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<v Speaker 5>of things where we connect the dots afterward and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>looks like a genius. But there were probably like ten

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<v Speaker 5>other versions before that all didn't happen, and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we bet all those and we end up losing anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm not sure that that's the necessarily way to

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<v Speaker 5>do it either, But it's tough, all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, let's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you guys being with us. We'll be back probably

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<v Speaker 3>after the start free agency. We'll do a show and

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<v Speaker 3>start breaking down some of these kind of things. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>drive Brian Frosecca on Brandon is going into hibernation before

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<v Speaker 3>he starts research on the NFL. Is being able to

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<v Speaker 3>look out for him on the Action Network podcast as

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<v Speaker 3>well as in the Action Network AAP. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 3>guys being with us. They're joining us all throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Enjoy the second round, Enjoy the NBA off season, as the.

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<v Speaker 4>Trades to the end.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see guys again next time. Until then, let's get buckings.

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