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Speaker 1: It's up and away we ao. Welcome back to No Breaks,

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Speaker 1: Formula one podcast from the No Dunks Inc. Classic Factory,

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Speaker 1: proudly a part of the Athletic Podcast Network. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, and I'm joined today by our local f

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Speaker 1: one expert and a man who goes to great lengths

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Speaker 1: to find us some pomper nickel toast, Gregen, Gordian Green.

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Speaker 2: What's Updod, how's it going everyone?

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Speaker 1: Of course, we've got our team principle here in the paddock. JD.

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Speaker 1: Hello there he is here. We are whether you're joining

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Speaker 1: us live here on the slipstream team on YouTube listening

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Speaker 1: to the podcast later, Thanks for joining us. We're getting

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Speaker 1: things straightened out here with our YouTube channel. Should be

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Speaker 1: launching that officially next week. New rules and regulations for

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Speaker 1: the new YouTube channel, just like there is with new cars.

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Speaker 1: But Graydon he came through with the toast man.

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Speaker 2: It was hard to find. I had to go, you know,

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Speaker 2: search all over town to find just the finest quality pumpernickel.

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Speaker 2: I thought to myself, beautiful shot I would want. But

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Speaker 2: but I didn't just want to get any old pumpernickel.

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Speaker 2: I thought, what would be up to Toto's exacting standards.

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Speaker 1: Well, I imagine he's getting the finest of pumpernickel. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick taste. I'm gonna beatist through the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. It's been sitting for like ten minutes now,

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Speaker 1: so I think we'll probably maybe a little dry. But hmmm,

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Speaker 1: I can see why he orders it. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: that's a toast, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Arguably bread.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, inarguably bread. Great way to start, j D. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you're loving it. Anyways, we're eating toast over here.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a thing now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I eat that like every morning though, No,

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Speaker 2: I mean I just any toast to me, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you have an egg, come on, you be dipping

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Speaker 2: your egg in that?

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Speaker 1: No problem? Okay, fair enough, Yeah, Tode, he's a man

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Speaker 1: who appreciates excellence. Maybe he's maybe he's got the line

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Speaker 1: on the best pumpern It's also a rye pumpernickel. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's throwing us.

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Speaker 2: I think they are all rye. I think pumper nickel

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Speaker 2: is like a form of rye.

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Speaker 1: Clearly I'm not educated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and arguably he's eating better pumper nickel. Than this pump.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a form of rye. Okay, yeah, it's the

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Speaker 3: most fragrant of the rye bread.

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Speaker 2: Not a pumpernickel fan, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't occasionally like once in a in a blue

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Speaker 3: moon every three years or something.

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Speaker 2: Every three years.

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Speaker 3: That's never something I would If it's on a list

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Speaker 3: of what kind of toast would you like.

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Speaker 2: What are you going with? Are you like a sour

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Speaker 2: dough man, like a country white? You want a little like.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I would go rye. I would go

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Speaker 3: like a light rye light right, just the dark riots

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Speaker 3: it's all and it's weird because I love Guinness.

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Speaker 2: But it's just so multi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is multi yeah, so not not my thing.

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Speaker 2: It is multi.

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Speaker 1: Once in a dark brown moon, that's I think I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start ordering it as a bit like if we're

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Speaker 1: out to brunch, I'll definitely if they definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna hear you know, we we do like

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Speaker 1: talking about bread, but we are here to talk about racing.

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Speaker 1: We had our first race of the season over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: The boys were back on the track in Bahrain, so

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give it out a few awards while we

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Speaker 1: break everything down, graydon our first up award topic, whatever

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Speaker 1: you wanna call it. What was the biggest headline, biggest

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Speaker 1: takeaway from the Bahrain GP.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for this, You're ready.

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Speaker 2: Ferrari is back. That is right, that is right. The

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Speaker 2: boys read are back, we are back. Woo that I

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Speaker 2: I mean, we called it. We felt good going in.

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Speaker 2: I was bullish on him, and gosh did they deliver?

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Speaker 2: You know, Leclair for all intents and purposes led wire

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Speaker 2: being very negative and I think really kind of hating

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was honestly a dominant when for Ferrari in

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Speaker 1: this one a one two, like you mentioned Leclaire also

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Speaker 1: call that the triple crown? Is that what they call it?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, but they should. If you win

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Speaker 2: Triple of motorsports is a different thing. M it's winning

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Speaker 2: the it's winning the Indy five hundred, the Monaco Grand Prix,

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Speaker 2: and Lamon's in a career all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, maybe a tic tac toe if if you

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Speaker 1: get max points for the whole weekend, they gotta have

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Speaker 2: It's a clean.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a tic tac toe. But yeah, they were incredible

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Speaker 1: and literally Signs in his post race press conference said

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Speaker 1: Ferrari is back. They're properly back, properly back. He said

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Speaker 1: that I love that when we actually hear like an

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, Ferrari was great. You know, the

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Speaker 1: day as they had been in testing? And it was

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Speaker 1: honestly a blowout, like first step into a good job

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Speaker 1: how good Laclaiir was that he outclassed Signs as much

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Speaker 2: He was leaving him behind. He was steadily chipping away

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Speaker 2: So it's not that I think that we've just seen

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Speaker 1: They're officially and properly back, and at least after one race,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a big time tiktac to day, as

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Speaker 2: But those aren't the only headlines. What would you say

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Speaker 2: is the biggest headline of the weekend?

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Speaker 1: Red Bull blew. It is my headline from the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It looked like Red Bull, like we're saying, was happy

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Speaker 1: to finish P two with Verstoppin, and then Perez was

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Speaker 1: probably coming in P four, but Max verstapp And pitted

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Speaker 1: on lap forty eight. He came back out and he

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Speaker 1: it was kind of peaking. The levels were going off.

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Speaker 1: There was some bleeps, no doubt about it. He had

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Speaker 1: pitt Lane would be like, there's no problem, there's nothing wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to keep going. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have to go into Nigel Mansel mode here

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Speaker 1: and just gut his way through it. But every time

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Speaker 1: he was like radioing back to his engineers, They're like,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong. Clearly there was something wrong because Max's

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Speaker 1: car just stopped a few laps later. He dnfed. Got

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Speaker 1: worse because the same thing happened to Perez a couple

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Speaker 2: to make, you know there, you know, in you know,

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Speaker 2: back when Alonso was with Reno, you know, quite a

433
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Speaker 2: while ago now, you know, you know, over over a

434
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Speaker 2: decade ago, they were very, very competitive, you know, right

435
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Speaker 2: at the top of the standings, and that's where I

436
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: think their aspiration is to get back to. It doesn't

437
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Speaker 2: look like they're there this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fifth in the constructors after one race, just a

439
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Speaker 1: point behind Alfa Romeo. So that'll be interesting to watch

440
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Speaker 1: because I mean, if they're both gonna be a little

441
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Speaker 1: bit better, that's exciting as well. How about most disappointing grade?

442
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Speaker 1: And I think there's a pretty easy choice here.

443
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's McLaren right, this is so terrible a catastrophe.

444
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Speaker 1: We're in a fantasy league together. I don't know how

445
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Speaker 1: you got me into a Formula one fantasy league. I

446
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 1: think it was honestly, it was like thirty minutes left

447
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Speaker 1: before qualifying in the group chat said hey, let's do fantasy.

448
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 1: I had the It was the perfect timing. Kids were

449
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Speaker 1: watching Octonauts. I was ready to watch them qualifying, so

450
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Speaker 1: I put Norris, Ricardo and McLaren McLaren as my constructors.

451
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Speaker 1: So I haven't checked the standings, but I imagine I'm last.

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Speaker 2: That was rough. I was actually I had it pretty

453
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Speaker 2: good for a minute there. I was cruising because I

454
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Speaker 2: had Leclaire signs and Perez and right after for stapping,

455
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Speaker 2: you know, d n F. I thought, oh my gosh,

456
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna my my ferrari Is was my team. I

457
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Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna I'm gonna have the whole podium,

458
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Speaker 2: but you know, gonna be my fantasy team. It didn't

459
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Speaker 2: pan out, but it nonetheless, Yeah, McLaren looked terrible. I

460
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Speaker 2: mean they looked bad in qualifying. You know, Ricardo looked

461
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Speaker 2: really slow, but Norris didn't didn't do well either. I

462
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Speaker 2: think qualifying behind Mick Schumacher, I think, if I remember correctly,

463
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Speaker 2: did he I think Schumacher got thirteenth in right and

464
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Speaker 2: Norris got fourteenth, So that's certainly a bit of a shocker.

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Speaker 2: And the race things went from bad to worse. I

466
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Speaker 2: mean they looked there was one point where you know,

467
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Speaker 2: Norris was you know, he was pitting and his pit

468
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Speaker 2: window was between twentieth and a lap down right, you

469
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Speaker 2: know he was getting you know, he was coming back

470
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Speaker 2: out way way behind the race. Ricardo never did anything

471
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Speaker 2: to make up for his bad start. In general, this

472
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Speaker 2: just this is a catastrophe. I don't know whether this,

473
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Speaker 2: you know, the shortcomings that the car has or things

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Speaker 2: that can be overcome within a season. I mean, this

475
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Speaker 2: might be a very tough You think.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be that bad, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: thought Russell said during preseason testing that Ferrari looks like

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Speaker 1: a team to be and McLaren looks like a team

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Speaker 1: to be.

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Speaker 2: Well that I mean, they were certainly beat. I will

481
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Speaker 2: say that it's possible that what they've struggling with I

482
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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what they're struggling with. A similar team,

483
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Speaker 2: Aston Martin also a Mercedes powered team, which, by the way,

484
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Speaker 2: every Mercedes powered team other than Mercedes looks bad. Williams,

485
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Speaker 2: McLaren and Aston Martin did not look good out there,

486
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Speaker 2: So there's question at some point you have to ask,

487
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Speaker 2: has the Mercedes power unit just been you know, have

488
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Speaker 2: have the other teams caught up or surpassed it. But also,

489
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Speaker 2: you know, Aston Martin in particular was really struggling with porpoising,

490
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Speaker 2: and the things they did to help with that were

491
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Speaker 2: what caused them to lose. I think they said as

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Speaker 2: much as you know three fourths of a second, I

493
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Speaker 2: don't know if McLaren is struggling with similar things. I'm

494
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Speaker 2: not exactly sure what it is, but I mean there's

495
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Speaker 2: a lot to figure out. There's a lot to figure

496
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Speaker 2: out to get back into the points, much less into

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Speaker 2: the battle podiums.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was you know, on one hand, it's

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Speaker 1: great to hear porpoising is still around even though the

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Speaker 1: season has started, But on the other hand, like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: they have a ton to work on. At one point

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Speaker 1: they were basically telling Ricardo and Norris like, be easy

503
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Speaker 1: on the breaks. We don't know how to cool them

504
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Speaker 1: down the right way, which is similar to what I

505
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Speaker 1: think Vettel was hearing, or sorry, Holkemberg maybe was hearing

506
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Speaker 1: over over over the radio for Aston Martin. At one

507
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Speaker 1: point they showed a late McLaren pit stop and their

508
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Speaker 1: car was like wiggling on the jack. I don't think

509
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to do that this is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess some of these teams, it's just

511
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Speaker 2: a lot. There's a lot to figure out. Part of

512
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Speaker 2: me wonders whether this is a by product of them

513
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Speaker 2: over committing to the fight for third last year and

514
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Speaker 2: under and not putting sufficient time in the development of

515
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Speaker 2: the car this year. That whether where a lot of

516
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Speaker 2: teams were pivoting and focusing almost the entirety of their

517
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Speaker 2: energy on twenty twenty two, McLaren was a little bit

518
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Speaker 2: too committed to solving last year's problems and trying to

519
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Speaker 2: maintain third. I don't know, that's speculative. I can't be

520
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Speaker 2: positive that that's the case, but it certainly feels like

521
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Speaker 2: we're you know, some of the other teams unlocked something

522
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Speaker 2: really special McLaren. It looks lost out there.

523
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Speaker 1: We mentioned the red bull bent steering we are steering

524
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Speaker 1: rod that happened after a pit stop and this like

525
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Speaker 1: this odd thing with the McLaren rocking back and forth.

526
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Speaker 1: Were you expecting that to be like a problem here?

527
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Speaker 1: The teams having to kind of start from scratch on

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Speaker 1: pit stops like that seems to me something that you

529
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Speaker 1: could always practice and know what you're doing right there.

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Speaker 1: But there was a couple of little mistakes that we saw.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, miss Yeah, here's a little bit of roughness. Is

532
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Speaker 2: different tires, you know, different tire size. Maybe that's throwing

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Speaker 2: people off. Just I sad teams again do better not

534
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Speaker 2: to just you know, compliment for even further. But their

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Speaker 2: pit stops looked super sharp, right, very fast, which is

536
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Speaker 2: not something they are historically known for. In fact, it's

537
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Speaker 2: probably quite the opposite. As a Ferrari fan, I'm always

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Speaker 2: stressed going into the pits and they're gonna well, like

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Speaker 2: so I think so I it definitely feels like just teams,

540
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Speaker 2: you know, you've just jumbled everything up and you know,

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Speaker 2: thrown it back out there. And and a lot of

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Speaker 2: the characteristics are things that we associated with teams last

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Speaker 2: year are a little bit off kilter right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely definitely the case. Moving on, what was your

545
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Speaker 1: favorite moment from this race to leon and overtake?

546
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of It's probably for me it's it's

547
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Speaker 2: the lap seventeen and eighteen leclair verstapping out front. That's

548
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Speaker 2: that's what's kind of delivering on the promise of you

549
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: know what the season was supposed to allow for tighter racing,

550
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Speaker 2: really competitive racing that was both hard and clean racing

551
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Speaker 2: between two guys who you know, have been known to

552
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Speaker 2: come together in the past, Leclair and Verstap and have

553
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: had their fair share of incidents and both have been

554
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Speaker 2: willing to get their elbows out or do things that

555
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Speaker 2: you might frankly call reckless. They they were, I thought,

556
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Speaker 2: doing very hard, respectful, competitive racing, which is what you

557
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: want to see out there, and was great. Those were

558
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Speaker 2: those were super fun moments. I thought that, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think at the end, I don't think we really

560
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Speaker 2: when it happened. I don't think I realized that it was.

561
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Speaker 2: You know, red Bull was ver Stapping was cruising for

562
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Speaker 2: the DNF, but Signs overtaking him into seconds seemed like

563
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Speaker 2: an awesome moment. It was like, oh my gosh, he's

564
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Speaker 2: going to get a one two. It was kind of that,

565
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: you know, he had he had been struggling to hunt

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Speaker 2: him down, so that both of those were super fun

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Speaker 2: moments in the race.

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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, yeah, big time bounced back moments for Ferrari.

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Speaker 1: Like you're saying at the end, it was very cool

570
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Speaker 1: to see Signs go into second place, especially not knowing

571
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Speaker 1: exactly what was going on with Red Bull at the time.

572
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Speaker 1: But man, that battle between Leclair and Verstappen like that

573
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Speaker 1: was that was incredible to see the way Leclair, as

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Speaker 1: he mentioned after the race, was basically letting verstop and

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Speaker 1: get through so that he would have DRS to then

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Speaker 1: be able to pass again. And the fact that it

577
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Speaker 1: kind of came through three different times on this race,

578
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Speaker 1: like had one go at, it didn't work, had a

579
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Speaker 1: second go at, it didn't work. By the third time,

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Speaker 1: Max was like, all right, my tires are gone. That

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00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: was almost where the race was one right there. I mean,

582
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Speaker 1: probably Ferrari's gonna be outpace Red Bull on the hole

583
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Speaker 1: for the day. But the fact that Leclair was able

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Speaker 1: to outdo over stop and man, that was awesome to watch.

585
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Speaker 1: You're always telling me this guy's a championship driver, and

586
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Speaker 1: that to me right there is like he's playing mind

587
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: games with the Verstapan who's the current champion right there.

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Speaker 2: Impressive he certainly, I think Leclair probably quieted a lot

589
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: of doubters and I think showed people why Ferrari and Matia,

590
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, Venodo have always said he has a super

591
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: high ceiling and he has true championship potential, right was

592
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Speaker 2: like him hanging in there, being tough, racing hard, showing

593
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: true pace when he was out in front. Yeah, I

594
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: think you're right. Also, the race was I'm not gonna

595
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: say one right, there is, there's plenty of race left.

596
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Speaker 2: But when Versteppin locked up and then kind of cooked

597
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: his tires on that one and then and that forced him,

598
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Speaker 2: I think to pit even earlier on the next one

599
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Speaker 2: or lose pace towards the end of that stint, that

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00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: really hurt. You know. When he went back into the pits,

601
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Speaker 2: the gap was even bigger than the first time around,

602
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Speaker 2: So I think that made it even harder to try

603
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Speaker 2: to pull off the overtake of that second set of pits.

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Speaker 2: So that that was that was definitely a critical moment.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, brilliant driving from Leclara A real like, Oh

606
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: the game has changed. We got a different championship competitor

607
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: up here. I thought that was great. Couple of lines

608
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: I really liked in this one. Max Verstappen had mentioned

609
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: after I think preseason testing, nobody's given it full beans

610
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: out there. He said, nobody's going to at full beans,

611
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Speaker 1: which if we were starting this podcast this year, it

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Speaker 1: would be called the full Beans instead of no Breaks,

613
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: so maybe that's like the subtitle no Breaks, Full Beans. Anyways,

614
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Speaker 1: they're talking all about that, and like we're saying Verstopin

615
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: is trailing Leclair for the most of this, but I

616
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: think it's when Leclair is in the pits right now,

617
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Speaker 1: so it's it's kind of important for Verstoppin to make

618
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Speaker 1: up as much time as he can while Leclaire's just

619
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Speaker 1: sitting there and Crafty says Verstoppin's got to give it

620
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Speaker 1: as much beans as possible. He was going in on

621
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Speaker 1: the beans talk and I really appreciated that.

622
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Speaker 2: H Yeah, I mean, these guys are Brits. They love beans.

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Speaker 1: I love beans, Beans for beans for breakfast, throw some

624
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Speaker 1: beans on some public photoes. We were brainstorming maybe we

625
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Speaker 1: could do a full beans challenge. Don't know what it is,

626
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Speaker 1: but it'll involve eating can of beans.

627
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Speaker 2: There's gonna point beings on this show before the end

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Speaker 2: of the season.

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Speaker 1: Another great moment we talked about Lewis Hamilton and Valerie

630
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Speaker 1: bought Us starting next to each other. Even though they're

631
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Speaker 1: not teammates anymore, they seem to have fun being competitors

632
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Speaker 1: on the race. Course, and then afterwards, you know they're

633
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: doing their their outlap, their cool down lap. You can

634
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Speaker 1: see a little thumbs up between Lewis to Valtrie. Right back,

635
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: Lewis puts some up on his Instagram about Valchrie, so

636
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: uh some still respect there. You know, they had quite

637
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Speaker 1: the partnership and it seemed like Lewis is happy because

638
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: he's still one of the greats, and Voucher is happy

639
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: that he gets to maybe a little bit less pressure

640
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: with Alfa Romeo and he gets to be the big

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Speaker 1: dog there. Good stuff we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Let us know your favorite moments. We're gonna move on

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Speaker 1: to our best new Livery got to finally see these

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Speaker 1: cars officially out on the course. Who do you like

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Speaker 1: this year looks wise.

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Speaker 2: I've got two faves. One, I think the Alpha looks sharp.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 2: I think they did a nice job with that. I

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Speaker 2: think they did a nice job kind of taking the

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Speaker 2: design identity of alt from more broadly and applying it

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Speaker 2: to the car. And then I think this is maybe

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a hot take, but I'm a

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Speaker 2: I was liking the pink Alpine, the Pente Lapente clothes,

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Speaker 2: you know, the little pink panther. French style used to be,

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Speaker 2: you know, the old Force India look or whatever the

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Speaker 2: racing point look. I liked Alpine at it. I thought

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Speaker 2: it was sharp. I love pink as a color. It's

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Speaker 2: a beautiful color. I thought the car looked fun.

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Speaker 1: Pink looks good on anyone, including j D right now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm with you. I love that the pink

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Speaker 1: car is back on the track. But it really really throws.

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Speaker 2: Me off that it's Alpine, because you think it's it

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Speaker 2: must be racing.

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Speaker 1: It must be racing for it must be Forced India.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely not Alpine, who last year looked like Williams

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Speaker 1: in the year before. We're run o black and yellow

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Speaker 1: and now suddenly they're a pink tea. That just it

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Speaker 1: just throws They are all.

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Speaker 2: Over the place. They are all over the place with

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Speaker 2: the colors, so that that is fair.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it does look good. Another one that I

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Speaker 1: thought was interesting is that Lewis Hamilton has taken the

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Speaker 1: kind of second driver look for Mercedes this year, and

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Speaker 1: it's only because he wants to go full Neon. I'm

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Speaker 1: convinced he gets the Neon camera bar on the top,

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Speaker 1: he gets a Neon forty four and all matched his

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Speaker 1: Neon helmet, like little Neon parts on his wheel covers

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Speaker 1: as well. It definitely threw off the broadcasters at one

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Speaker 1: point they thought it was Russell just because they're used

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Speaker 1: to the second driver not being Lewis Hamilton for Mercedes.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say McLaren look good. We just didn't get

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Speaker 1: to see him very much because.

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Speaker 2: I do think mclarys back. They just yeah, what about

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Speaker 2: the Ferrari car.

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Speaker 1: I saw some people work crazy about the Ferrari design.

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Speaker 1: Too much black?

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Speaker 2: Perhaps, yeah too is black? You know our our our

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Speaker 2: good friend Kate, who you know, was kind of hating

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Speaker 2: on it. She thought it was the red was like

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Speaker 2: two blood red, like she wanted that bright Ferrari red

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00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: that like Testa Rosa red that. And I get that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably more fun when they've got that

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Speaker 2: like nineties red, but I think it's fine. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm not a fan of is they've got the

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Speaker 2: little Italian flag colors on there. I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: like an unnecessary detail. Maybe that I don't know, they're

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Speaker 2: very proud of their Italian heritage, but I I've actually

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Speaker 2: always thought the Ferrari car, while the color is cool,

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Speaker 2: is kind of a mess because I feel like they

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna hate here for a second. But

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Speaker 2: they do the least good job with like elegantly placing

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Speaker 2: logos on the car. They're all over the blaze like

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Speaker 2: they're like they're just yeah right. I just mean some

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Speaker 2: teams like integrate them into the car more they put

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Speaker 2: them in. Actually think McLaren does an okay job like

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Speaker 2: making the logos kind of fit into the broader design scheme.

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Speaker 2: And then Ferrari it's just like a big like shell

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Speaker 2: or like a big ups I saw on there this year,

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Speaker 2: but it's like, you know, just just slapped on there,

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Speaker 2: and I always think it looks like a little sloppy

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Speaker 2: to be honest.

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Speaker 1: Fair enough. Also funny that McLaren has the Google Chrome

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Speaker 1: logo on their wheels.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a little Android bot. I think

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Speaker 2: there's something like a fun somewhere. It's it's fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Not a great weekend for the Green Bubble crew unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: How about a driver wise, who was the best debut?

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Speaker 1: We had one new driver on the course in Joguan

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Speaker 1: you but you know, Magnuson was back unexpectedly, Nico Holkenberg

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Speaker 1: was back, and obviously we had teams switching up their

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Speaker 1: driver lineups as well. Anybody impress you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Joguan you scoring points in his first

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Speaker 2: ever race is obviously very impressive. They're not easy to do,

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Speaker 2: you know, even if the car is competitive, you know,

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Speaker 2: more competitive than expected, there's no promise that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to get out there and manage it and

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Speaker 2: manage the pressure. And you know, and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: very impressive stuff, you know, certainly suggests that this guy

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Speaker 2: is going to be competitive. I think at times he

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Speaker 2: was out there battling with Mick Schumacher, which was fun

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Speaker 2: because they used to battle on the F two grid

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Speaker 2: and so seeing them back fighting each other kind of

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Speaker 2: wheel to wheel was very cool. You know that, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, k mag is incredible what he

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Speaker 2: came out and did. And cold, let's also be real

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Speaker 2: good think with magnesin is you know, he wasn't driving

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Speaker 2: a car. It wasn't driving enough one car like two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: That's wild. So that's so, I mean, that's awesome, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I thought Albon did a nice job as well

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Speaker 1: for Williams he definitely was better than Latifi. Disappointing weekend

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Speaker 1: for Latifi. Here's a good debut for you, Graydon. The

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Speaker 1: new twenty twenty two cars, it looked like what they

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Speaker 1: said was gonna happen from these regulations came true. In

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Speaker 1: the first round pri of the season. The cars were

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Speaker 1: following closely. As we were talking about earlier, we had

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Speaker 1: that great battle between Leclair and Verstappin where they're able

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Speaker 1: to both pass each other but also both stay close

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Speaker 1: enough to each other so that they can continue to

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Speaker 1: have the same battle down, you know, for laps further

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Speaker 1: down the field. All the cars look different too, like

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Speaker 1: all the side pods are different. Mercedes is very skinny

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Speaker 1: and also kind of looks like a popcan that's been

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Speaker 1: stuffed on a little bit, I think, But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of variety out there on the track.

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Speaker 1: And more importantly, it feels like, you know, hearing from

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Speaker 1: the drivers, hearing from the commentators, they're like, oh, what

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Speaker 1: they said was going to happen is actually happening. The

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Speaker 1: cars are able to stay close to each other and

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Speaker 1: there might be some more overtaking this season.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's right. I think the cars are

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Speaker 2: largely working. I think the other thing that's just cool

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Speaker 2: about it, and we talked a little bit about this

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Speaker 2: last week, is a big anxiety coming into this year

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Speaker 2: was that the the regulations were so restrictive that all

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Speaker 2: the cars would come out looking the same and they

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Speaker 2: would be iterations on like a very similar theme, when

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Speaker 2: in fact you saw the exact opposite. You saw radically

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Speaker 2: different design directions, right, And that is really cool and

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Speaker 2: I think it's producing really interesting outcomes on the track

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Speaker 2: and we'll see things evolve really interestingly. You're going to

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Speaker 2: see big evolution over the course this year in the cars,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and it's it's just an exciting time because

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Speaker 2: I feel like there are so many unknowns from here

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Speaker 2: on out, Like there's there's going to be so many

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Speaker 2: changes up and down the grid over the rest of

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Speaker 2: the year, and there'll.

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Speaker 1: Be no doubt about it. Our last topic great and

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Speaker 1: I want to give me your top three drivers of

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Speaker 1: the day for the Bahraing GP.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say charlol Leclair at one blowout, come on,

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Speaker 2: he I mean, you know, he just looked great. He

783
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: hooked it up from end to end. You know, he

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Speaker 2: just he absolutely looked like a championship caliber driver. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna say Kevin Magnuson because let's be real, he crushed

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Speaker 2: it coming in from nowhere. And then you know, my

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Speaker 2: biggest surprise in my you know, you're in juryed in

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Speaker 2: my heart. You know, old Terry Valter, old Terry, old Terry,

789
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Speaker 2: old Terry bonuses. He's looking great, he's aid Valterie you know,

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00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: came up there. You know, Botos looked good and I

791
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm very impressed with that. Anybody else that

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Speaker 2: jumped out at you is you know, possibly in that

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Speaker 2: top dream.

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Speaker 1: I think Leclaire and Magnuson are the one and two.

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Speaker 1: Like Leclaire is a blowout easy Driver of the Day.

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Speaker 1: He even won the poll pretty easily, and like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember we were talking about this last year. There

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Speaker 1: are so many times where Hamilton would like blow away

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Speaker 1: of the field and he wouldn't even finish in the

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Speaker 1: top three and Driver of the day because you're like, okay, whatever,

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00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: it's Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes, it's gonna happen. Leclaire deserved it,

802
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Speaker 1: like he was the best driver and he was in

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Speaker 1: the best car. So shout out to that magnuson like

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Speaker 1: you said, and then I'll give a little tip of

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Speaker 1: the cap to Yuki Sonoda picked up eight places while driving.

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Speaker 1: I think he had the most overtakes on the day

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Speaker 1: and he was the only Red Bull engine to finish.

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Speaker 1: So good stuff from Yuki, and I think he might

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Speaker 1: have also been the only driver we haven't mentioned thus far.

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Speaker 1: So nice for getting in here as well. Here short

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Speaker 1: King Spring. I just saw that on the internet as well.

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Speaker 2: I think one thing about Leclair and the yeah, this

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Speaker 2: Leclaire waiting Driver of the day is a bit I

814
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: feel like Lebron on the Lakers in a if like

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00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: the All Star Game or something. It's like any time

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Ferrari ever does well, they have a great shout of

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Speaker 2: driver that they There's so many fans out there's a

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Speaker 2: fan vote and they just like crush it. Like I

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Speaker 2: all of those Ferri fans are just sitting there on

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Speaker 2: their phone just waiting to let's last. Yeah, totally there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we want to hear from you on all

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Speaker 1: of this, your drivers of the day, your favorite new liveries,

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Speaker 1: best debut, most surprising, all that stuff. We're going to

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Speaker 1: take a quick break here when we come back talking news,

825
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Speaker 1: stick around back with no breaks. We got pumper nickel

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Speaker 1: on the table grade and I noticed you didn't go

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Speaker 1: in for a second bite during the break.

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Speaker 2: Let's you know, my throat was a little dry after that.

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Speaker 2: It made the first segment difficult. I had a glass

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Speaker 2: of water the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's how Toto has so much energy. He orders

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Speaker 1: pumper nickel toast at every breakfast, so he has to

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00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: wash it down with coffee and it's just jacked for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Anyways, we're going to take

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Speaker 1: a look at some of the news around the F

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Speaker 1: one world. Our first, well Peace comes from the FIA,

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Speaker 1: who released their findings of the analysis of what happened

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Speaker 1: during last season's climactic Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.

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Speaker 2: What did happen?

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Speaker 1: What did happen? Uh, some safety car shenanigans? What happened

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Speaker 1: some human error? As they say, what was your takeaway

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Speaker 1: from this document for the.

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Speaker 2: FIA, I mean nothing in the document itself surprised me.

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Speaker 2: I was. I had no expectation that they were going

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Speaker 2: to claim that something other than the outcome that did

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Speaker 2: happen really happened. They acknowledged some fault at things like that.

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Speaker 2: For me, the most peculiar part of it was the timing.

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Speaker 2: They released this document thirty minutes before qualifying started.

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Speaker 1: On the first race of the season.

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Speaker 2: Like, why, I guess that's a news dump in an

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Speaker 2: attempt to release it and cover it up with excitement

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Speaker 2: about the race. But it also just seems to dredge

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Speaker 2: up bad memories at the exact wrong time. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I thought it was weird timing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely weird timing. I remember on last week's show,

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Speaker 1: I was like, isn't it weird that they waited so

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Speaker 1: long to replace Massy as the race director? They did

858
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: it like a week before the season started. This is

859
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: even weirder to drop, like obviously a controversial ending last season,

860
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: to come out with this sort of report on what happened.

861
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Not even really, it's just a bunch of bullet points

862
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: about a report that's theoretically out there. The second to

863
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: last bullet stuck out to me the process of identifying

864
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: lapped cars has up until now been a manual one,

865
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: and human error led to the fact that not all

866
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: cars were allowed to unlap themselves.

867
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: This is also that's first of all, very shocking that

868
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: that was a manual process up until now. There wasn't

869
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: some digital thing or whatever that told you, you know,

870
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: all the cars are on lapped or got.

871
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: Like nine thousand buttons on pins.

872
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much technology, sane, layers and layers of technology,

873
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: and then there's a guy like sitting there like counting

874
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: the cars as they go by. But also also that's

875
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: that's total bs though, right. I mean, I just said

876
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: Michael as he knew exactly what he was doing. He

877
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: led exactly the specific set of cars through so as

878
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: to allow that, you know, Max and Lewis races. It's

879
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: ridiculous to think that the oh ownly the six of

880
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: the cars have been lapped. I just think that just

881
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: patently false, but a perfectly nice bullet to add into

882
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: a report.

883
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally. The rule has been changed any as

884
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: now officially all and like we said, Massy has been replaced.

885
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: So to me, they're kind of saying, yeah, things were

886
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: botched last year and we got rid of everything about that,

887
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: so let's just move on and guess what qualifying starting

888
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: right now? You want to watch? Yeah, awesome, The cars

889
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: are totally different.

890
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: And the Sky Sports team I think kind of played

891
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: into that. I didn't hear anybody mentioning the report. Yeah,

892
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: more than that they did. They did make some cracks

893
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: about you know, which cars had been lapped or weren't lapped.

894
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: I heard the empty car, right, yeah, right. I think

895
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: it was Ted Kravitzy's like, oh no, I can't do it.

896
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: They slipped in a couple of comments there, but you

897
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: know they're yeah. So hopefully we that is all a

898
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: smoother process.

899
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get a safety car like the last five laps,

900
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: every single r no did we count them? Right? We

901
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 1: shall see. Our second piece of news comes from at

902
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: Adam Cooper f one on Twitter. The tweet says New

903
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: f one race director Neil Vintich has told teams that

904
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 1: he won't be asking drivers to give a place back

905
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 1: for gaining an advantage. Team and driver have to decide

906
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: themselves if they're in the wrong and might be penalized

907
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: if they don't see the place. How can this possibly

908
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: work if it's up to the teams to determine if

909
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: they did something wrong.

910
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's it's yeah, this is interesting. First

911
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: of all, we didn't I don't think we actually saw

912
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: this rule in practice unless it happened at some point

913
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: in the midfield and they just didn't pay attention. It

914
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: didn't come up. But the only penalty I think was

915
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: ocon you know, colliding with Schumacher.

916
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Right.

917
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: But this weekend we very much might see it come

918
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: into play because turn one in Saudi Arabia is where

919
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 2: we saw multiple people cut it to gain an advantage

920
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: last season. So it does seem like this will very

921
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: plausibly cut up this upcoming weekend. I guess people will

922
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: just have to make a judgment call, but there's no

923
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is the race director is not the

924
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: one handing down the penalties in the first place, right,

925
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: He is not the race stewarts, So when he's asking

926
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: people to give a place back, he's actually, I guess,

927
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: making a judgment call presuming what a different group of

928
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: people is going to think about an incident. So he's

929
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: making a lot of assumptions, right, So in this instance,

930
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: they're to say, I'm not going to make those assumptions.

931
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: You can take action to try to prevent that. But

932
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: maybe maybe the long term goal of this is just

933
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: to discourage activities where you know you might gain an advantage,

934
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: then just give it back, because what you also saw

935
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: was Max and this came up and drives to survive,

936
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 2: but giving back a position at a highly strategic moment,

937
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: like gaining an advantage, giving it back right before a

938
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: DRS detection zone or right before a section of the

939
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: track where maybe your car has the edge, and then

940
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 2: immediately regaining the advantage. You know that that's something that

941
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: although in this instance, I think it it ended in Hamilton,

942
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: I think hitting him more so, you know, them running

943
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 2: into each other, of course, but that's that's been something

944
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: people have done in the past. So I think saying

945
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 2: we're not gonna allow you to do that either, which

946
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: is basically preserving the advantage you gained from the initial

947
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: you know, the initial violation. Yeah, I mean, I don't know,

948
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: it's all it's It's definitely it'll be tricky and it'll

949
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: lead to some confusion and a little bit of chaos,

950
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: which I'm kind of a fan of. I'm a little

951
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: bit a fan of on track chaos.

952
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's definitely gonna be like a big chaos

953
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: element to it because I kind of think the default

954
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: will be like you're saying, like you're gonna want to

955
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: give back the possession just because you don't know what's

956
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: coming further down the line, so you'll do it strategically,

957
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: like the Maxi Verstap and drs z own sort of thing.

958
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: But some team's gonna be the first to be like, no,

959
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: we aren't that right, We're off, and then they're gonna

960
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: have misread the situation in the Stewart's minds, and then

961
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna come down with the afterwards and that's like,

962
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: uh oh, that's gonna be drama, and yeah, it's a

963
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: lot of casts could well.

964
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 2: He also went in that series of tweets to say

965
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: that I believe they have only one lap to give

966
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: it back, which is actually pretty fast. I think sometimes

967
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: you see these debates last season with Michael Massino carrying

968
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: on for a couple of laps, right, it like kind

969
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: of turned into an extended back and forth about what

970
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: they would do and when they would do it, or

971
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: even sometimes not giving back a place but just just

972
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: returning the advantage gain, like when Hamilton just I guess

973
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 2: technically slowed up to allow MAXs happened to close together.

974
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: That was a confused That was a very confusing one.

975
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: This I think they're just trying to say that all

976
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 2: of that messiness is gone. If you break a rule,

977
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: you can either correct it or get penalized. But I

978
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: don't know. We'll see how it plays out. We haven't

979
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: yet to see how it happens yet.

980
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: Call your own fouls, call.

981
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: Your own fas car.

982
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: That's gonna be that's gonna be crazy. I can't wait

983
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: to see it actually happen. Next up comes from artosport

984
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: dot Com. Carlos Signs reaches an agreement over new Ferrari

985
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: F one contract. Now apparently this isn't signed quite yet,

986
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: but sign says, I think we are close, very close,

987
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: very very close, very close, extremely close, nearly there.

988
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: How are you saying they're close?

989
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: One contract grated, but they're pretty close here, They're pretty close.

990
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: It sounds close.

991
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: He's very very very very very very very very very

992
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: But here's my question for you, how ironclad are F

993
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: one contracts because after the Bahrain GP, you saw a

994
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: lot of people saying, uh, oh Lando Norris is signed

995
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 4: to a four year contract with McLaren and look how

996
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: poorly they performed in round one.

997
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: Is that is it the same?

998
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: You know?

999
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Is it like?

1000
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 2: Is this It's not It's not like an NBA deal

1001
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: quite in the same way, right, you do see people

1002
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: break contracts or you know, move there's penalties involved. It's

1003
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: not it's not exactly the same, but it's you know.

1004
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: But in the instance of Carlos Signs, you know, where

1005
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: he's driving for his dream team at the top of

1006
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: the grid. Now, you know, I think you can be

1007
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: pretty confident that they're locking in their duo for multiple

1008
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: years to come. It's a pretty smart move by them, honestly,

1009
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: because I think they've got almost the ideal driver duo,

1010
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: which is a guy with a super high ceiling and

1011
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: then a guy with a super high floor. So there's

1012
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: kind of like a baseline that they're providing every race,

1013
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: and then a guy who can jump out there and

1014
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: compete with the very best every race, and that that's

1015
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: a great combo to have, you know. So it's smart.

1016
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: But if Signs, if something were to go terribly awry,

1017
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they could get out of it.

1018
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: Although that also, to be quite honest, might be contract

1019
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: to contract. I mean, I think that there's just not

1020
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: nearly as much standardization because there's not like a collective

1021
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: bargaining agreement and things like that they're operating within. The

1022
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: you know they're operating.

1023
00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: Within So yeah, do four ce Signs? I mean it's

1024
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: too early to tell, but do you foresee Signs being

1025
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: able to push LaClair for championships? Or is this going

1026
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: to end up similar to Mercedes where you've got the

1027
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: championship winner and then you've got the reliable guy who

1028
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: everybody's saying, Oh, is this the year?

1029
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Is this the year? It's a great question. I I

1030
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 2: think you have to say, Signs can do it. He

1031
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: beat him last year. I mean, he finished at him

1032
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: in the points in his last year. To say so,

1033
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: to say he can't do it, to me, it feels

1034
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 2: patently false. And since that he's already beaten him once,

1035
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, So that that being said, I expect Leclair

1036
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: to outperform him this year. I expect Leclair to probably

1037
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: be the de facto number one driver, even if maybe

1038
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: he's not on paper. You know, and you hear that

1039
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: in the way that Benodo talks about the two of them,

1040
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: you know, he when he talks about them, he talks

1041
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: about how like a consistent, you know, good driver, Signs is,

1042
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: and then he talks about what a phenomenal, complete like

1043
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: excellent driver LaClaire is he clearly has a huge croushof

1044
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: chearl Leclair and thinks he's the guy that can bring

1045
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 2: home a title. So I think, you know, so I

1046
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: think that that will. But you know, we also don't

1047
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: know that we're seeing signs of ceiling yet, and he

1048
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: could definitely hook it up and sort of the hunger

1049
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: to do more is there. He's not resting on his laurels.

1050
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: He's not sitting there being content with what they've achieved.

1051
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: If anything, quite the opposite. He seemed incredibly unhappy with

1052
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 2: an excellent result this past weekend.

1053
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: So they've had a nice looking squad and it looks

1054
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: like they got him locked up for quite some time.

1055
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: So Ferrari, they're one hundred back.

1056
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: Baby.

1057
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Our final thing is not really news, but it is new.

1058
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: We got a new graphics package for the race over

1059
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: the weekend you see here on YouTube. On the left

1060
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: we've got the current the twenty twenty two timing tower,

1061
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: if you will, and on the right we've got the

1062
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: previous timing tower. This did not seem to go over

1063
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: too well with the F one crowd.

1064
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 2: Gritton, I'm not a fan. To me, it feels like

1065
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: this is like the difference between graphic design and information

1066
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: design is like, I get it, so it looks cool,

1067
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: but it's actually like kind of hard to navigate. I

1068
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: think having their team logos was better. I think that

1069
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: it's harder to read their position numbers than it was before.

1070
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: And I think having them the position numbers and then

1071
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: their car numbers right next to one another, it's just

1072
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: a little bit messy. I don't know that their car

1073
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: numbers are all that useful. I mean, I get that

1074
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: you sometimes you got a glance at the number to

1075
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: distinguish between for staff and Perez or something, but also

1076
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 2: just where they are on track or what the announcer

1077
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: is saying at that moment completely clarifies who you're looking at,

1078
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't know. It seems to me

1079
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: like the only thing that I would say is a

1080
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: definitive improvement is it seems like they have the tire

1081
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: type up there more constantly, sure, which I like, because

1082
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 2: sometimes you're important you forget that, you know. But I

1083
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: don't know. I definitely there's there's room for improvement here.

1084
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: I think you nailed it. I think that the new

1085
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: look probably looks cooler, like looks a little bit slicker,

1086
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: but the previous iteration of the timing tower like gave

1087
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: you everything you actually needed to know, and like you're saying,

1088
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: like there were quite a few Lewis Hamilton number forty

1089
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: four football jerseys like American football jerseys in the crowd

1090
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: over the weekend, but you don't see Formula one like

1091
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: driver numbers showing up all that much. So you know,

1092
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: Verstappen did switch to the old number one this year

1093
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: as he's the champion, so yeah, bring back the team logos.

1094
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: But like I said, according to Twitter, this was not

1095
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: a well done replacement here, So maybe there will be

1096
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: tinkering on down the line. We've seen them, you know,

1097
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: do all kinds of new cameras and new graphics throughout

1098
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: the season anyway, so hopefully they'll change it up a

1099
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: little bit here. But we want to know from you.

1100
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think about any of that news,

1101
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: those new graphics. And if you were going to pick

1102
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: a Formula one number one would you wear?

1103
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: What would you wear? Ooh five? Just number five?

1104
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Just five? That all was five? Is that right?

1105
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1106
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: I think he might have been.

1107
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm just as my lucky number five is your lucky.

1108
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Number, my looking number. I'm a thirteen. I don't know

1109
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: if that's bad luck for on the track though.

1110
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like it. I think it's like a

1111
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: reverse Jinks. Yeah, how it embraced its thirteen.

1112
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: What about you?

1113
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 3: Jd oh, I'm seven seven all the way.

1114
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: The seven seven, my lucky number, no even number, all

1115
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: odds here. I like that.

1116
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes a difference.

1117
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: I like it.

1118
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: I like that makes a difference. So faster car goes.

1119
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a quick fast break here when

1120
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: we come back talking about the Saudi Arabian GP next weekend.

1121
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: And we both finished Drive to Survive season four, so

1122
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that as well.

1123
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: Stick around.

1124
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Some great stuff from the Slipstream team here on YouTube

1125
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: talking about driver numbers. A great comment from Andreas Mole

1126
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: who says when they were still numbering the cars after

1127
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 1: the place in the Constructors Championship, they skipped thirteen because

1128
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: the superstition went straight from twelve to fourteen and fifteen.

1129
00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: There's a lane for me there, Greg.

1130
00:53:59,400 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: Where you slip.

1131
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: I'm the guy he's not worried about bad luck. I'm

1132
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: not worried about bad luck on a race track.

1133
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: I don't know that you do see that sometimes they

1134
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,439
Speaker 2: like you go into like a building sometimes and there's

1135
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: just like you go straight from twelve to fourteen. It's

1136
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: you know, I get it, that's right. You just don't.

1137
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: Why risk it?

1138
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: You can never find a thirteenth floor in a hotel,

1139
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: no chance?

1140
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: Why risk it.

1141
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Pastor Malmonado apparently wore thirteen back in the days and

1142
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: any go. Yeah, I love Pastor, Yeah, big fan as well. Yeah,

1143
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 1: that's what I'm worrying, thirteen on my car.

1144
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1145
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: We got another race this weekend, starting off with back

1146
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to back jacks. I love it. We're going to Saudi

1147
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Arabia for the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, just the second

1148
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: time that they've raced there. Last year's podium. Hamilton Verstappen

1149
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: and botas there for Mercedes grad And what can you

1150
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: tell us about the Saudi Radian GP?

1151
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: So this is a road course, right, pretty much the

1152
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: fastest road course in F one and it's very narrow,

1153
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 2: it's very high stakes it. We saw a lot of

1154
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: action during qualifying testing there last year. There's some very

1155
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 2: tricky moments on the course, you know that, in particularly

1156
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: the race down to turn one, which is like a

1157
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: very sharp left than right you know, you're gonna see

1158
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: a lot. It's a very tight se Yeah, it's a

1159
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 2: very tight fit for everybody. I think this is interesting

1160
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: because last year you saw Mercedes kind of outpacing Red

1161
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: Bull on the straits with the superre engine that you

1162
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: saw Red Bull picking up tons of time in the

1163
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 2: second sector and uh, you know where they were where

1164
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: they had just a ton of pace with their very

1165
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: high downforced car. This year, it seems like it's almost reversed.

1166
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: You saw Ferrari had tons of pace in the corners

1167
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: and then Red Bull was the one that was was

1168
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: catching up and showing tons of power down the streets.

1169
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: So it's I'll be interested to see, you know, just

1170
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 2: red Bull kind of but in the long run, the

1171
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: track favored Mercedes, so you have to think, you know,

1172
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: maybe is this a chance for Red Bull to strike

1173
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 2: back if they can fix their reliability issues, you know,

1174
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: can they You know, certainly expect Max to be back

1175
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: battling for a podium, but they might have the upper

1176
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 2: hand here. It's a little tough to tell, given how

1177
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: new the cars are, but I wouldn't be surprised if

1178
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Max actually takes you know, takes number one. This weekend.

1179
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: Is it realistic to expect improvements for Red Bull like

1180
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: the I mean, obviously we don't know, but like the

1181
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: issues that they had during the Bahrain GP, like they've

1182
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,760
Speaker 1: only got a week to fix that. I mean, really,

1183
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, five and a half days until it's qualifying

1184
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: and then it's then it's race day. That's a that's

1185
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: a quick turnaround to you know, figure out a problem

1186
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 1: that left you with no points after a weekend.

1187
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's tough to tell just

1188
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: how complicated it is. You know, maybe it's maybe it's

1189
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 2: actually a shockingly simple fix, like relocating an element. Maybe

1190
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: it's actually very very complicated and will take them a

1191
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: few weeks to solve. But the reality is is the

1192
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: only way, you know, score points is to bring your

1193
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: car across the line, So they've got to find a

1194
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: way to maintain their reliability. They were also right there,

1195
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: so it's not as if they you know, so it

1196
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: it makes me think that maybe small tweaks could be

1197
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: sufficient to you know, to get it there. But I

1198
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: don't know, it's it's I guess we'll find out. It's

1199
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: certainly going to be as the race drags on and

1200
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: we get towards the end, I assure you it will

1201
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 2: be something that Crafty and Brundle and everybody else in

1202
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: the broadcast is mentioning and has in the back of

1203
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: their mind wondering is something and they go awry.

1204
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: So how long do parts take? In the F one world?

1205
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: I heard a ton of talk about parts. We gotta

1206
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: get parts in. We got to figure out these parts.

1207
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: We need parts to handle our porpoising. I'm thinking of

1208
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Mercedes here specifically to me. I think there was a

1209
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: report from Ted Kravitz where he said he doesn't think

1210
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: that Mercedes is really going to have an update to

1211
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: their car until the immllect Grand Prix, so it could

1212
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: be you know, three weeks or so of them of

1213
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: being the third place team out there.

1214
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, So I mean I think that there's there's like

1215
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: two answers to that question. It's like Parts in some

1216
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: sense are very fast in the sense that they have

1217
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 2: incredible manufacturing capabilities and can build these incredibly custom elements.

1218
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: And you actually saw Mercedes completely reim imagine their side

1219
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: pods in between Barcelona and Barrain testing. So that was

1220
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: a big evolution in a very small period of time.

1221
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 2: Oppositely like sometimes parts it's not as if it's just

1222
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: about the part itself. It's all the cascading elements that

1223
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: are related to it, And to change one thing has

1224
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: ramifications across the car. And really what you're doing is

1225
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 2: like a major rethinking of the way you know, air

1226
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: is flowing over an entire section or a whole system

1227
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: of parts is interacting. And then I think that's where

1228
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: things get complicated and changes take a really long time.

1229
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: Is it's this like domino effect of like things you

1230
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: got to change to accommodate this one thing that you

1231
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: know you have to change. So it's that that's where

1232
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: that's where Red Bull actually could get tricky, is is

1233
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: you know, are they going to have to actually do

1234
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of work to fix what it seems like

1235
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: a comparatively minor element. I honestly don't know. But the

1236
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: that that's that's also where I think, you know, Mercedes

1237
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: is stuck a little bit, is that it the suggest

1238
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: is there's not a quick fix, and they're going to

1239
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: have to iterate on multiple elements of the car and

1240
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: then bring those back to working in concert with one

1241
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,479
Speaker 2: another in order to be battling back for the very top.

1242
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Russell said something similar where he's like,

1243
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: we didn't want to change too much and confuse ourselves,

1244
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: because if there's several things wrong and you change them

1245
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: all at the same time, maybe you just got a

1246
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 1: whole new grip of things that are wrong, which would

1247
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: obviously be a problem. How soon do you think teams

1248
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: are going to change their mind on like side pod designs,

1249
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: because like Mercedes, like we said skinny, there's looks you know,

1250
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: more like triangular shaped almost, and then like you got

1251
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: like obviously a wider there's a Ferrari sidepod, and there's

1252
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: like you can find photos on Twitter of the Red

1253
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: Ball engineers just like standing and admiring the Ferrari, like, oh,

1254
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: that looks beautiful. That's obviously like a huge design component

1255
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: the shape of your car and the way that the

1256
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: air is flowing over it. But if one team is

1257
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: doing it right, and you're if you're a Mercedes and

1258
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: you're one of the Mercedes customer teams and you're like,

1259
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: our car looks different and it's not performing as well

1260
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: as all these faster cars, how quickly do you be like,

1261
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: all right, we got to change track here.

1262
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: You know, it. You Probably some of them, I think,

1263
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: are already thinking that.

1264
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Right.

1265
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, they're already back at the factory. I'm

1266
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: not saying they're throwing out the designs, but they're like, okay,

1267
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: we have to make some major changes. This isn't iterating

1268
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 2: on like a foundational design here to a point of

1269
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: optimizing it, which is probably more where Ferrari and red

1270
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: Bull are at. They're thinking, cool, we have a great base,

1271
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: let's improve all the little component parts.

1272
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: You know that.

1273
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 2: I think that the you know, you see teams make

1274
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 2: changes very fast, like Alpine, not to the sidepod itself,

1275
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: but to kind of the rear the sidepod, the slope

1276
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 2: and angle of it. You know, that changed I think

1277
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 2: in between testing and the race. So just within one

1278
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: week there was a component of the body shape that

1279
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: they changed. Teams can turn around changes pretty fast. It's

1280
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: it's just like you've got to be confident that there's

1281
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: not going to be negative unexpected by proper and it's

1282
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: not as easy to be confident as that. It's not

1283
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: super easy to be confident of that. So it's just

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Speaker 2: little tweaks have big impacts. So but we'll see if

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Speaker 2: they can turn it around, how quickly they can turn

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Speaker 2: it around. You do see teams make really big leaps

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Speaker 2: mid season and so and honestly, even Mercedes last year,

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01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: you could say that their evolution from Race one to

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Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi was massive. They clearly were the second fastest

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Speaker 2: car in the track. Red Bull easily had the best

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Speaker 2: car to start the season, and by the end Mercedes

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Speaker 2: had the better car. They were the faster car at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, funny moment and Drive to Survive when they're

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Speaker 1: talking about how much faster the Mercedes car was in

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: the second half the season, Liis is like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: did some good laughs. Okay, decent driver, but I guess

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out on track. It seems

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Speaker 1: to me though we will be looking at similar top

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01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: two's in Ferrari and Red Bull with everybody else trying

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Speaker 1: to battle it out. That's right, but we'll see on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So we got the race on Sunday, qualifying, Saturday practice Friday. Uh,

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01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: graydon I finished Drive to Survive season four. I saw

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01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: your tweet during the week. You wish we would have

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01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: waited until we both had watched the Yuki Sonoda episode

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01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: to record our preseason preview. That episode is hilarious. The

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01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: guy hates where he lives, hates it. The guy hates

1308
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: the food he's eating, he hates working out, but he

1309
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: loves going fast. I was like, this guy gets it, Laura.

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01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: We were watching him like get into his car getting

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: ready to just drive around Milton Keynes, and Laura's like,

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Speaker 1: do you think do you think Formula one drivers just

1313
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: always drive fast? And then like as soon as she

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01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: said it, Yuki peels out backwards and they're just doing

1315
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: roundabouts as fast as he possibly can on I think

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01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: they do. I think they just drive as fast as possible.

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01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just him though, he is incredible.

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01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 2: He is incredible, is so foul mouthed, he is so

1319
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 2: like the most rated episode of all. He just cannot

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01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: help himself. And then somebody said because he learned the

1321
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: English around like engineers, mechanics and things like that, so

1322
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: like ever, you know, yeah, uh, I don't know. He's great.

1323
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: The food stuff is great. He I would love a

1324
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: Yuki Sonoda cooking show or like like like a Stanley

1325
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: Tucci Italy Like with Yuki Sonoda traveling around is being

1326
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: like furious, just sprinting in a car from place to place,

1327
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: like eating food and like cussing everybody out the whole

1328
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: time of be incredible.

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Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, so we had the Yuki episode. We also

1330
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: had the George Russell versus Voucherie Botas. Episode. Didn't think

1331
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: George came off great, he came off terribly. Yeah, Oh

1332
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: my god.

1333
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 2: I is like I I kind of liked Georgia or

1334
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: I still do kind of like George, I feel like

1335
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 2: people do. And then coming into that episode, I was like,

1336
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: good god, he's just very entitled, Like this is a

1337
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: terrible look.

1338
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: I looked very poudy. They got they got him with

1339
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: some of the editings, they crushed him. I was feeling

1340
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: bad for Botas for sure. Yeah. And also it's like,

1341
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: to me, it seemed like it was made into way

1342
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: bigger of a decision for Toto than it probably really was,

1343
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: especially like having you know, watched through the season when

1344
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: we're just kind of waiting and waiting and waiting for

1345
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: Russell to be announced. But maybe there was a little

1346
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: bit of hesitation after they touched.

1347
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: Up a little bit. Yeah, I mean maybe there was.

1348
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: I guess it's right. I think that they featured very

1349
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: briefly Hamilton making a comment about how Botos was an

1350
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 2: excellent second driver and that you know, there was some

1351
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 2: rumors that behind the scenes Hamilton had you know, no

1352
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 2: interest in replacing Botos. He was more than happy with

1353
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: keeping him, which you know, maybe has to give Toto pause.

1354
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, it always felt inevitable. People saw that coming

1355
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 2: from one hundred miles away. But what do you gotta do.

1356
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: It's a TV show. You gotta make it, got to

1357
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 2: make it seem exciting.

1358
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And that's the reason that Max Verstappen didn't

1359
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: want to be into Drive to Survive season four, which

1360
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: is too bad. He would have been a great addition

1361
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: to the last couple of episodes, which are all about

1362
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: the championship to shootout with Lewis Hamilton. Though, I will

1363
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: say I thought Netflix did a really good job of

1364
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: like keeping for stepping in things like they have him,

1365
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, at like the Red Bull party talking about

1366
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: the race the next night, that kind of thing. There's

1367
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: a lot of Max for stapping in it, even though

1368
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: he's not actually a talking head. So I thought that

1369
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I thought I thought it was crazy

1370
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: seeing like, you know, we heard the radio calls when

1371
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: they happened. But now you're seeing like Michael Massey talking

1372
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: back to Toto and Christian, you're seeing Toto freak out

1373
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: in the in the paddock. I thought that was cool

1374
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: to see, and I'll be honest seeing Max for stepping

1375
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: it made me less of a Max hater watching what

1376
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 1: less so than I thought I was gonna be. I

1377
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be seething mad again at the

1378
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: end of these episodes, but I was more like, hey,

1379
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: you know what, he deserved to win the championship on

1380
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: the whole of the season. The decision just happened to

1381
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: go his way. But it wasn't really anything of his doing.

1382
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: They were just he was in a place where I

1383
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I have an easy win for the

1384
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: championship here. I gotta take it.

1385
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 2: Of course you do, No, Yeah, I agree that it

1386
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: wasn't as if Max did anything. I think, probably somewhat appropriately.

1387
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 2: You probably come away from that that show, as we

1388
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 2: said last week, thinking of Christian Horner Helen, who is

1389
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: probably the person who you should blame for, you know,

1390
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: probably inappropriately influencing you know, Massy to make up an

1391
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: ill advised decision. But I think that that's you know, yeah,

1392
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: I think for stabbing's fine, but I do think he's

1393
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: a He's a good heel. Them is a collect or,

1394
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: a good heel. You know, he's like very cool, you know,

1395
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: very you know, unemotional kind of response to everything. You know,

1396
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: he's like hyper Dutch, very like stone faced. Uh, you know,

1397
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 2: hyper competitive approach is great horners, you know, constantly twisting

1398
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: the knife is great. Red Bull's a great bad guy.

1399
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: They're a great bad guy. So I and they will

1400
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: be again this season, I think.

1401
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we gotta say ends with a great quote

1402
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: from Toto every team as a target on their back

1403
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: while wearing a black turtleneck and a black suit. Did

1404
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: they tell him the like possible yeah?

1405
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: He Yeah, for sure. I mean that was there was somebody. Yeah,

1406
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: he probably came in in like a like a T

1407
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: shirt or something. They're like, no, you need to cheer.

1408
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: Gotta yeah, that that was I thought a tad heavy hand, but.

1409
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: Give it to us one board time. It didn't sound

1410
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: scary enough.

1411
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1412
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: I find myself so much watching like the Talking Heads interviews,

1413
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: just being like when did they record this? Like when

1414
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: are they getting the quotes from Christian and Toto in

1415
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: between qualifying and in between or in between qualifying and

1416
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: and when they when the race actually starts. You know,

1417
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, there are times when I think I see

1418
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: Christian Horner wearing a white button down shirt and I

1419
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: know he was wearing a white button down shirt underneath

1420
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: a blue sweater, and his face looks a little more red.

1421
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, I bet he was getting hot

1422
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: from wearing that sweater. But something like dumbest stuff.

1423
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know this for a fact, but I

1424
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: feel like some of it's a little bit like reality

1425
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: TV where they just go back and you're like, you're

1426
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: you're well, not a little bit. It's like it is

1427
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: reality TV, but it's there there, you know, and making

1428
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 2: you comment on things as if it's real time. I

1429
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: feel like I feel like some of that must happen

1430
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 2: just after the season. Yeah, and they just go back

1431
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 2: and they're like in the first person as if it's

1432
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: present day, tell me about the crash at you know,

1433
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: Manzo or whatever, and it's like, well, these guys they're

1434
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 2: so they're so competitive or whatever, you know. So I

1435
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 2: feel like that's a little.

1436
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: Bit of it. Yeah, no doubt, another great season. Fun

1437
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: to watch. I was happy to jam it in there too,

1438
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 1: right before we actually got started.

1439
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 2: Saying I think for this like Saturday mornings more qualifying.

1440
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 2: I think I literally finished it like five minutes before qualifying.

1441
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 1: Right at the last second. I don't blame it. That's

1442
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: what I was doing too. I was doing mine Saturday

1443
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: night because I was like, I can't leave this. I

1444
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 1: can't leave this till the race, till after the race started.

1445
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: But that's about it for no breaks. Thanks to everybody

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