WEBVTT - Patriots Draft Countdown: Breaking Down Wide Receivers, Running Backs and Tight Ends

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<v Speaker 4>of the New England Patriots, and guys. Just over a

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<v Speaker 4>week until the NFL Draft, We're kind of in silly season.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like this is when the rumors start to

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<v Speaker 4>come out. This is happening, this isn't happening. But for

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<v Speaker 4>the Patriots, Paul, it's all about shouldhar Sanders. Is he

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<v Speaker 4>going to go in the top three and push either

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<v Speaker 4>Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter down. We've been back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth all spring with this and it sounds like Shoulder

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<v Speaker 4>Sanders taking some meetings with the Giants, perhaps some interest

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<v Speaker 4>out there in him that maybe should be intriguing to

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<v Speaker 4>the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 5>So you're saying there's a chance, you know, that's all

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<v Speaker 5>anybody wanted, and you know, coinciding with that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's reports that Abdul Carter came to borrow and visit

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<v Speaker 5>with the Patriots as well, so I think they're doing

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<v Speaker 5>the due diligence. Obviously, it makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 5>to know as much about those guys that you are

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<v Speaker 5>going to have a possibility of selecting it for. You

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<v Speaker 5>can't just assume that prospect X is not going to

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<v Speaker 5>be available. You have to make sure you figure out

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<v Speaker 5>who you know that you are interested in, and you

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<v Speaker 5>know as much about those guys. Abdul Carter is sort

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<v Speaker 5>of an interesting guy. I think it'd be a no

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<v Speaker 5>brainer pick if he somehow slipped to four, much like

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<v Speaker 5>I think the rest of the panel does. But you

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<v Speaker 5>still want to know, you know, some of this off

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<v Speaker 5>field stuff that you mentioned Silly season that's starting to

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<v Speaker 5>pop up about all these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to learn as much as you can have.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about the roller coaster with with

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<v Speaker 2>Carter this whole spring?

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<v Speaker 3>Stilly season is right? I mean, we're at the point

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<v Speaker 3>now where every team in the top three or four

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<v Speaker 3>has picked everybody that they could possibly pick. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Patriots have picked six different guys at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll find out here soon enough. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with the Giants and Shador specifically, it's one of two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Either this was their plan all along, that they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to do some last minute homework on the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the quarterback class, or as we like to say,

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<v Speaker 3>this is when the owners tend to get involved in

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<v Speaker 3>this process, and maybe you know, there's some push from

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<v Speaker 3>upstairs to get involved at the quarterback spot. And the

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<v Speaker 3>one thing I would just say with the Giants is

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<v Speaker 3>you look at last year. Don't you think that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a remorse there that they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>draft Pennix or bow Nicks or even JJ McCarthy even

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<v Speaker 3>though he didn't play. I think all three of those guys,

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy maybe less so than the other two, showed some

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<v Speaker 3>signs of starting quarterback potential and maybe even franchise quarterback potential.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're the Giants, you have to be one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent sure that Shador Sanders is not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be that To pass on him for the second year

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<v Speaker 3>in a row, to pass on the quarterback, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be tough for that regime if that's

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<v Speaker 3>what they do now. At Abdil Carter just quickly it's

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<v Speaker 3>a no brainer. If he's there at four for the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's one of the best players in the draft,

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<v Speaker 3>if not the best player in the draft. Certainly be

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<v Speaker 3>at the cherry on top to your defense their deuce,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think you'd look at a defense that's pretty

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<v Speaker 3>complete at that point. I agree with Paul, though. There

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<v Speaker 3>are some things with his football character that have come

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<v Speaker 3>out with this foot injury as well that have come

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<v Speaker 3>out that make a lot of sense to have him

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<v Speaker 3>here and host him on a thirty visit, just to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you get all those informations behind the scene.

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<v Speaker 4>Yea, and that visits sports supposedly Carter visiting the Patriots

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<v Speaker 4>earlier this week on Monday Batists break it down for me, though,

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<v Speaker 4>Is this real? Like, I'm sick of going back and

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<v Speaker 4>forth on Abdul Carter. I ruled him out early in

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<v Speaker 4>the draft process. I'm like, I'm not gonna get my

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<v Speaker 4>hopes up. But here we are and we're still being

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<v Speaker 4>toyed with Is this real or is it?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we've been going in waves of if it's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna happen. I always said it was gonna be blessing

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<v Speaker 6>if we get Travis Hunter or Carter. I've made my

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<v Speaker 6>peace with Will Campbell, but I think there's a chance

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<v Speaker 6>they're really like, it's real that there's a chance that

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<v Speaker 6>the Patriots could end up with Apple Carter.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you guys think though, as we sit here

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<v Speaker 4>right now one week to go, what do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think is gonna happen here for the Patriots?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I did my final mock draft spoiler alert

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<v Speaker 4>check it out, Will Campbell. I just tried to hit

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<v Speaker 4>it down the middle. I think it makes sense. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>trying not to get crazy like Ashtrian Genty last.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, Paul. But to me, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like a pick that makes the most sense.

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<v Speaker 5>So you let Evan beat you down, is what you

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<v Speaker 5>So you're saying, what do I think the Patriots are

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<v Speaker 5>going to ultimately do? Because I do not think that

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<v Speaker 5>Hunter and Carter. I don't think there's much of a possibility.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Giants are sort of putting a sign

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<v Speaker 5>up saying we're open for business if someone wants to

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<v Speaker 5>come up. You know that the situation with the Saints

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<v Speaker 5>and Derek Carr, maybe they think that they have them

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<v Speaker 5>in a desperate situation now, I just don't see it happening.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't see Sheda Sanders going in the top three.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Carter and Hunter will be two three in

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<v Speaker 5>some order. I would like to see one of the

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<v Speaker 5>Georgia defensive guys, you know, Jalen Walker would be the

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<v Speaker 5>guy that I would pick. But as I said earlier

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<v Speaker 5>in the week, they do not consult me, and nor

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<v Speaker 5>do I make the big bucks to make these decisions,

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<v Speaker 5>so I can sit here and be wrong and not

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<v Speaker 5>have any consequences about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Good track history though with Georgia defensive players. I'm just saying, Paul,

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<v Speaker 4>I think, do you think what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I think you look at the top three as it

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<v Speaker 3>stands right now, I would say it probably goes Cam Wore,

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter in that order. And the Browns

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<v Speaker 3>feels like they've been gravitating maybe a little bit more

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<v Speaker 3>towards Travis Hunter versus Abdul Carter in recent weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>now leaves the Patriots in a spot where I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we all have known they will be in basically

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<v Speaker 3>for months and have been trying to convince ourselves that

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's a possibility that Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter

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<v Speaker 3>could be there for them. I look at the leveling

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<v Speaker 3>off of the draft and just feel like all these

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<v Speaker 3>players that you're talking about, Jalen Walker, Will Campbell, even

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<v Speaker 3>Armand Membu or Mason Graham, they're all similar prospects in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of talent level, and they have similar grades on them.

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<v Speaker 3>So I feel like the need at left tackle is

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<v Speaker 3>going to push Membu and Campbell to the top of

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<v Speaker 3>the list, and if it whoever, whichever tackle they like better,

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<v Speaker 3>and Mike Rabel and Elliott Wolf like better, is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be the guy that they ultimately pick. And I

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<v Speaker 3>understand a lot of people want to say best player available,

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<v Speaker 3>best player available, but I can make a case for

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<v Speaker 3>all of these guys being the best player available. So

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<v Speaker 3>when that case, when that is the case, I would

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<v Speaker 3>think positional value in need is going to end up

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<v Speaker 3>being what trumps everything else. So I would say it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be Will Campbell sneaky dark horse arm On Membu.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of those two.

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<v Speaker 6>Tackles, you got a sneaky dark horse teas, I think

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<v Speaker 6>it's I've made my bed with Will Campbell, which isn't

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<v Speaker 6>a bad thing. It's a pick and a player that

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<v Speaker 6>you can play day one, and that's a win for

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<v Speaker 6>me in the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, well, we got a jam packed episode here.

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<v Speaker 4>We're talking about the wide receivers, the running backs and

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<v Speaker 4>tight ends. Long positional preview, the first check out, Evans

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<v Speaker 4>film review.

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<v Speaker 3>What's up, everybody, It's Evan Lazard's the Patriots Countdown film Room,

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<v Speaker 3>and today a really exciting position for you all. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you guys are looking forward to this one. The

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<v Speaker 3>wide receivers in this year's NFL draft. We look at

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<v Speaker 3>the top five. Yep, Travis Hunter. I have them as

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<v Speaker 3>the number one corner and the number one receiver in

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<v Speaker 3>this year's draft. But I also want to show you

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<v Speaker 3>some film on to Tour Millan from Arizona teed really athletic,

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<v Speaker 3>great body control, great size for the position. I love

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<v Speaker 3>Luther Burden, I think everybody knows that, and Mecha Buka

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<v Speaker 3>and Matthew Golden two really solid receivers as well in

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<v Speaker 3>that twenty to forty range of this year's draft. But

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<v Speaker 3>let's start with those top two guys. We'll break down

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<v Speaker 3>the film on those guys a little bit here in

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<v Speaker 3>a second, and this right here is just Travis Hunter

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<v Speaker 3>at his absolute best and why I think he's the

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<v Speaker 3>best receiver in this class for two reasons. Play speed

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<v Speaker 3>ball skills. So we're gonna run the same concept on

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<v Speaker 3>both of these examples, but we're gonna run it against

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<v Speaker 3>man and we're gonna run it against zone. So up

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<v Speaker 3>here at the top of the screen, if we can

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<v Speaker 3>posit here for a second, we're gonna run these double

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<v Speaker 3>posts here. We're gonna just clear out this side for

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter to come across on the crossing route and

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna get man to man coverage right there and

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<v Speaker 3>then well you can see is he can run away

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<v Speaker 3>from it and then he can go up and get it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna show this play from the end zone angle.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to show you how he high points the

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<v Speaker 3>football and just his explosiveness from a vertical standpoint to

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<v Speaker 3>go up and jump up and catch his football. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna run away from the man to man, get

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<v Speaker 3>him in trail then positive right there, you can see

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<v Speaker 3>those fantastic ball skills right here at the top. Just

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<v Speaker 3>watch him go elevate for this football right over the

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<v Speaker 3>head of the defender and bring it in with those

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<v Speaker 3>strong hands. And then on this next play here, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the same exact concept. So just positive right here for

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<v Speaker 3>a second. We're gonna have the double posts here at

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<v Speaker 3>the top, and then we're gonna have the crossing route

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<v Speaker 3>from Hunter from the isolated side. This time, though, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get zone coverage. And I think an underrated part

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<v Speaker 3>about his game, if we posit it right here, is

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<v Speaker 3>that he has a really great feel of making himself

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback friendly in zone coverages. So he knows that he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get this clear out from the double post, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's just gonna settle in this void and you can

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<v Speaker 3>see Sadors running for his life and he just finds

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<v Speaker 3>that soft spot and then look at the yak watch

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<v Speaker 3>this move at the end, see you right, that's what

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<v Speaker 3>he brings to the table with the ball in his

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<v Speaker 3>hands as well. You have that ability to get open

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<v Speaker 3>against zone and then run with the football. And the

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<v Speaker 3>next one here with Ted McMillan, a different type of receiver,

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<v Speaker 3>not explosive, not as dynamic. But what I think what's

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<v Speaker 3>fun about Tet McMillan is his start stopability. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>a great ability here to run these nine stop routes

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<v Speaker 3>with just nine steps and then stop at the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the route and watch how he can break down

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<v Speaker 3>efficiency efficiently at the top. Make them respect that vertical

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<v Speaker 3>stop down, create that separation, and watch this just turn

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<v Speaker 3>right up the field. Make the defender miss for some

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<v Speaker 3>easy yak. Now, what's fun about McMillan is that you

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<v Speaker 3>can also move him inside. So he's a big slot

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<v Speaker 3>or an ex receiver. So we're gonna move him inside

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<v Speaker 3>on this possession and we're just gonna run the seam

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<v Speaker 3>right up the middle of the field and just watch

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<v Speaker 3>the catch radius and watch the size that he can

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<v Speaker 3>play with right there, back shoulder seamball, just go up

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<v Speaker 3>and get it. So we can move him inside. We

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<v Speaker 3>can move him outside and then down on the goal line.

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<v Speaker 3>Here he is against Hunter at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 3>screen from twenty twenty three. We're just gonna play him

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<v Speaker 3>in isolation and we're gonna throw him the back shoulder

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<v Speaker 3>fade on the goal line and watch this one handed

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<v Speaker 3>catch by Tet McMillan. So you have size, you have

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<v Speaker 3>body control, you have hands. He doesn't have that didynamic

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<v Speaker 3>down the field speed like Travis Hunter does, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>got a lot of really good qualities about him that

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<v Speaker 3>are gonna make him a top ten pick. A couple

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<v Speaker 3>of other thoughts on the rest of these guys. Luther Burden,

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<v Speaker 3>I just love his game. Had a really good twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three season. Kind of took a step back last year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's caused him to fall a little bit. But he

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<v Speaker 3>is a three level separator right He can run at

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<v Speaker 3>the first level, he can run deep, he can run

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<v Speaker 3>with the football in his hands. He's just a burner.

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<v Speaker 3>He gets open everywhere. Has a good frame about him

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<v Speaker 3>as well. If you want that yards after the catch,

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<v Speaker 3>that Deebo Samuel type of player. Luther Burden reminds me

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of him coming out of college. Matthew Golden,

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<v Speaker 3>we all know about the forty yard dash ran in

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<v Speaker 3>the four two's plays to it as well. Great route runner,

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<v Speaker 3>great speed, really separates at the top of routes. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the best route runners in this class and probably

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<v Speaker 3>the best all around wide receiver. A Mecca Abuka from

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State. A little bit older than some of these

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<v Speaker 3>other guys, but he blocks well, He's tough, he goes

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<v Speaker 3>over the middle of the field. He can run routes

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<v Speaker 3>from multiple alignments. He just doesn't have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 3>of flaws to his game. I wouldn't say that he's

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<v Speaker 3>as explosive or as high end talent as some of

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<v Speaker 3>these other guys above him, but Abuka is just a

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<v Speaker 3>safe bet there early day, you know, late Day one,

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<v Speaker 3>early Day two, somewhere in there. So those are your

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<v Speaker 3>top of the wide receiver class. It's a decent class,

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<v Speaker 3>not like last year, not as good at the top

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<v Speaker 3>when he had those three big receivers and Harrison junior

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<v Speaker 3>neighbors and a donsay, but I still think there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of talent there for the Patriots at wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>On days one and two, I expect him to take

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<v Speaker 3>a player at that position at some point in the

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<v Speaker 3>top one hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>At long last, it's finally time to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>wide receivers, the running backs, and the tight ends. Guys,

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<v Speaker 4>these are three positions we spend a lot of time

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<v Speaker 4>talking about every single year.

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<v Speaker 2>Each year the position seemed to change.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit though, and this year I'd say the

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<v Speaker 4>running back class very strong. Wide receiver not as quite

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<v Speaker 4>as top heavy as we saw last year, but probably

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<v Speaker 4>some gems in there. And then the tight end class

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<v Speaker 4>not as great as we certainly saw last year. I

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<v Speaker 4>want to start off with a wide receiver, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just going to throw Travis Hunter out there to start.

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<v Speaker 4>He plays both ways, but if he was drafted by

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<v Speaker 4>the Patriots fourth over Paul, He's probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to come here and probably going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>wide receiver out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the gate.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, you love the athleticism, you love all the intrigue

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<v Speaker 5>around him. I can't think of a guy like him,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, in recent not even recent memory, any memory,

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<v Speaker 5>a guy strictly coming into the league with this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of versatility. I'm intrigued, like everybody else, with the idea

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<v Speaker 5>of him committing to wide receiver and what he might

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<v Speaker 5>be able to do. I know Evan talks about this

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<v Speaker 5>a lot. He talked about it during the week on

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<v Speaker 5>PU just how little time he gets to practice that craft.

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<v Speaker 5>And people say, well, he's not a great route runner. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>no kidding, you know, he doesn't spend a whole lot

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<v Speaker 5>of time sort of you know, honing that skill set.

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<v Speaker 5>So I am intrigued by what he could be in

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<v Speaker 5>the NFL if he were to vote devote his time

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<v Speaker 5>to being a wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 4>What does it look like Evan, if he's drafted here

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a wide receiver, what's that process look like.

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<v Speaker 3>I think at first you need to have him dive

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<v Speaker 3>two feet in with wide receiver and not put corner

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<v Speaker 3>totally on the back burner, but at least focus one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent on wide receiver to start, which I think

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<v Speaker 3>is what the plan that Mike Rabel hypothetically laid out

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<v Speaker 3>during the league meetings was, let's get let him master

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<v Speaker 3>one side of the ball, and then once he gets

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<v Speaker 3>to mastery level, then maybe we can start introducing the

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<v Speaker 3>other side of the football. So the Patriots do draft

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter, I would not expect him to come out

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<v Speaker 3>in Week one be playing seventy you know, snaps on

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<v Speaker 3>both sides of the football. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be heavily tilted towards one versus the other. But when

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<v Speaker 3>I watch him play wide receiver, I just see a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the natural movement skills that tend to really

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<v Speaker 3>translate to the NFL. Obviously, play speed, acceleration after the catch,

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<v Speaker 3>ball skills, ability to change gears within the route to

0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.800
<v Speaker 3>set up defensive backs, like all those different types of

0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.480
<v Speaker 3>things that he does at an extremely high level is

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<v Speaker 3>what all the top receivers in the league do at

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<v Speaker 3>an extremely high level. So if you have it picks

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<v Speaker 3>about nuance like that'll come, I think over time. But

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<v Speaker 3>there's a he's built different, Like there's only so many

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<v Speaker 3>people that move like that on a football field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, Tsu, you're always on these wide receivers. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>a probable.

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<v Speaker 4>I always bring up t Higgins, but you always really

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<v Speaker 4>watched the wide receivers.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Hunter. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>You remember when he flipped from Florida State to Jackson State.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of crazy to see a progression go all

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<v Speaker 6>the way through his college career and then maybe he

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<v Speaker 6>ends up being a Patriot. But I think so much

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<v Speaker 6>emphasis is put on the defense during the free agency

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<v Speaker 6>period that like, let's put him at receiver and then

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<v Speaker 6>we can figure out what happens with the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with having with that.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, I'm gonna throw a few more names

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<v Speaker 4>out here just at once, and you guys can jump in.

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<v Speaker 4>I see these as kind of the first second round guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But the four guys Ted McMillan.

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<v Speaker 4>Plenty about him, big tall receiver, contested catch guy, Matthew

0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.320
<v Speaker 4>Golden really had a strong year.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast ran a four two nine.

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<v Speaker 4>A mechag Buka from Ohio State, probably the most pro

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<v Speaker 4>ready polished wide receiver. Maybe not a standout in anything,

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<v Speaker 4>but knows how to play, knows how to get open.

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<v Speaker 4>And lastly, Luther Burden ran a four to four to one.

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<v Speaker 4>He's another guy that you know, all these guys have.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your flavor? You know, and Paul, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>who stands out to you of this group if any of.

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<v Speaker 5>Those two, Golden and Burden would be my preferences. I

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<v Speaker 5>like the idea of Burden. Now, he didn't have a

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<v Speaker 5>great year at Missouri. Evan talks about, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>quarterback situation. He's a thousand percent right, so Missouri play

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<v Speaker 5>a couple of times. They didn't have the same kind

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<v Speaker 5>of production that he had the previous season. But I

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<v Speaker 5>like the idea of his ability not just like not

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<v Speaker 5>a pure slot but a guy who can play in

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<v Speaker 5>the slot, a guy who can sort of play.

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<v Speaker 2>Which the one Z, there.

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<v Speaker 3>You go the ball, noa blanker.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know that kind of versatility athleticism. I like

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<v Speaker 5>Luther Burden a little bit, and I know that he's

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<v Speaker 5>sort of falling a little. And that's why I've been

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<v Speaker 5>watching him. There's some you know, some character concerns off

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<v Speaker 5>you know, how much he loves football, how much he

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<v Speaker 5>wants to compete and all. So that sort of drops

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<v Speaker 5>into that second round category. I'm interested in that. Obviously,

0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.360
<v Speaker 5>Golden ran the unbelievable forty time with the combine. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think he'll still be there in the second round,

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<v Speaker 5>but Burden is a guy that might.

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<v Speaker 4>Be Maybe Burden falls, but the other guys maybe in

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<v Speaker 4>that as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've always loved Luther Burden. I think Luther Burden

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<v Speaker 3>to me is the third best receiver in the class.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I have a first round grade on Luther Burden.

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<v Speaker 3>I think his year in twenty twenty three. You really

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<v Speaker 3>have to go back and watch the year in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three when he was more consistent and then the

0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.720
<v Speaker 3>play around him was more consistent. And I just look

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<v Speaker 3>at the way that he can really challenge the defense

0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.840
<v Speaker 3>at all three levels. You can throw catch and run

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<v Speaker 3>targets at him, you know, quick hitters over the middle

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<v Speaker 3>and have him run with the football. You can also

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<v Speaker 3>have him, you know, separate over the top. He's really

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<v Speaker 3>good at double moves, deep crossers, things like that. So

0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:48.160
<v Speaker 3>he's a complete receiver for that type of receiver, that archetype,

0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.080
<v Speaker 3>that slot receiver. Mold I see a little debo in there.

0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I know he gets a lot of Deebo Samuel comparisons,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think he's a better downfield rut runner coming

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<v Speaker 3>into the league than Deebo was. So I've compared him

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to Zay Flowers throughout this entire process, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just think that those two guys kind of in

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<v Speaker 3>a similar mole would win differently at the same time,

0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:10.119
<v Speaker 3>and I could see him in that category just quickly.

0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.119
<v Speaker 3>On Matthew Golden, he doesn't really play to that time speed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he'll tell you that he wasn't asked to play

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<v Speaker 3>to that time speed, So I guess maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of a you know, hidden talent of his potentially,

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think he plays to four two eight

0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.639
<v Speaker 3>four two nine. But he's a very good route runner,

0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.280
<v Speaker 3>very angular, very good out of the top of the route,

0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 3>very good hands at the catch point as well. There

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<v Speaker 3>have been and I know he's on the Patriots now,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's fun to say there have been some Stefan

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<v Speaker 3>Diggs comparisons with Matthew Golden, and I could definitely see that,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's more of a intermediate route runner than really

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<v Speaker 3>a true deep threat route runner that might every once

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<v Speaker 3>in a while, you know, have that in his back pocket,

0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.960
<v Speaker 3>but isn't his calling card or his carrying trade.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just say, you know, on the field, he

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<v Speaker 5>was in and out of games in the playoffs, and

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<v Speaker 5>there was an enormous difference in the Texas offense when

0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.680
<v Speaker 5>he was off the field. I'm thinking of the Arizona

0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.920
<v Speaker 5>State game in particular, they were doing whatever they wanted offensively.

0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.159
<v Speaker 5>I think he left that game for a period of

0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.439
<v Speaker 5>time and that's when Arizona State made the run. So

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<v Speaker 5>he's a guy who definitely made a big impact on

0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:18.479
<v Speaker 5>his offense.

0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 3>Two really opposite like career arcs for Burden and Golden.

0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Like Golden's the early breakout guys, true sophomore breakout Golden had,

0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.399
<v Speaker 3>like all of his production is really in like four games,

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<v Speaker 3>but they all came on the biggest stage in the

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<v Speaker 3>college football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>What stands out tot for those top guys, Well, listen,

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<v Speaker 6>I like amigag Buka, just think about all the great

0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.840
<v Speaker 6>receivers that have come from Ohio State, and Evan correct

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<v Speaker 6>me if I'm wrong he is the record for receptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, well he's there for five years.

0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:48.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, but fair like that's a great receiver, that's

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<v Speaker 6>been all of them, all of them. But he I

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<v Speaker 6>think if he could maybe fall into that late first round,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe early second round, that'd be a good a good

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<v Speaker 6>shot there. I also want to talk about, maybe a

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<v Speaker 6>bit later, Kyle william and Isaiah Bond Just too fast, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to get to that. We're gonna get to that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, But Kyle Williams the one that stands out

0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.720
<v Speaker 6>to me too just you know, not the greatest route runner,

0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:10.680
<v Speaker 6>but he's very fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Get the ball in his hand and see what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you just stole my thunder there a little bit

0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:16.000
<v Speaker 4>tea because I was going to talk about three guys

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit later down and we can skip around

0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.320
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. Please bring up you know, Jayden Higgins,

0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.400
<v Speaker 4>Jack Besh if you guys want, But I just gonna

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.640
<v Speaker 4>throw out Jalen Noel, Isaiah Bond and and and Kyle Williams.

0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Three guys who can all run, who are all fast

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<v Speaker 4>and That's what I think personally, I want to see

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<v Speaker 4>out of this draft is get maybe it did Day

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<v Speaker 4>three guy, not Day three, third round kind of guy

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere in that range. Doesn't have to be a high roundup,

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:39.639
<v Speaker 4>but just to bring this an element of speed to

0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:42.160
<v Speaker 4>this team. I've been all over I mean Isaiah Bond

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<v Speaker 4>since early. You know, he was at Texas, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with Golden and it hasn't quite lived up to that potential.

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<v Speaker 2>But all these guys are absolutely is talent.

0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Alabama guy, I mean ran a four to three seven,

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.200
<v Speaker 4>Noel ran a four to three nine. Kyle Williams not

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:56.640
<v Speaker 4>too far behind with a four to four to rowho.

0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 4>So for me, when I look at this wide receiver

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<v Speaker 4>roster right now, those are the kind of guys that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm intrigued in.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't have to be a high round pick.

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:04.800
<v Speaker 4>I think those high round picks need to go towards

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.480
<v Speaker 4>offensive tackle and defensive end. But I think when we

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<v Speaker 4>get to Day three, those are three guys that jump

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<v Speaker 4>out to me as guys who have some speed.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, Paul, you have a comment on those guys. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>Haines is my you know, because I like the guys

0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 5>on the outside. I think that at some point. You know,

0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.760
<v Speaker 5>we talk a lot about left tackle, and rightly so,

0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:23.119
<v Speaker 5>about kicking the can down. They have not had that

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 5>kind of guy in a while. The bigger guy. I'm

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 5>a little intrigued by him. I mean, obviously this flaw.

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 5>He's not a first round projection, so there's problems with

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:34.040
<v Speaker 5>his game, and there's going to be problems with these

0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.760
<v Speaker 5>kinds of guys. Not probably as fast, is what you know.

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.280
<v Speaker 5>The guys certainly not certainly not as shifty as some

0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.080
<v Speaker 5>of those smaller guys. But I think they have enough

0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 5>of the smaller guys. I'm looking for some size.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jayden Higgins, his issues really are with speed and

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<v Speaker 3>with separation down the field. I compared him to like

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Michael Pittman junior with the Colts, where he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>really be like a big possession receiver. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to really get a ton of downfield stretch

0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:00.159
<v Speaker 3>with him, but you're going to have those for some

0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 3>second level wins. Like he's really good at, you know,

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.320
<v Speaker 3>running slants in cuts, finding soft spots and zone coverage

0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.199
<v Speaker 3>like that sort of thing. That's why a lot of

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 3>people help project him to maybe move inside and play

0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 3>like a big slot role instead of a pure outside

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.639
<v Speaker 3>guy at the next level. Kyle Williams is interesting. He

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<v Speaker 3>can play a little bit on the outside and he

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<v Speaker 3>can stack over the top on go routes, so you

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<v Speaker 3>see some of that release quickness and that ability off

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the line of scrimmage certainly with him. He's got good

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<v Speaker 3>play speed, really good with the football in his hands

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.199
<v Speaker 3>if you want to scheme touch his for him and

0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 3>things like that. He's been someone that's I would put

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<v Speaker 3>in kind of like the late riser category. He's twenty

0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.439
<v Speaker 3>three years old, he had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>late breakout and has just kind of steadily climbed up

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the media boards at least during the draft process. But

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 3>when we get into that Kyle Williams mold, it's kind

0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.959
<v Speaker 3>of like a day two stack to me of you know,

0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.679
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Noel, Kyle Williams, Isaiah Bond, and then Jalen Royals

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 3>from Utah State. All four of those guys are kind

0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of the same type of receiver. It's just a flavor

0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 3>thing of which one you prefer. I'm no guy Jalen

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Nole from Io State. I think he reminds me a

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 3>ton of Tyler Lockett speed slot receiver, a really good separator,

0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 3>really good technician, but he has the speed to push

0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 3>it down the field. But if you had Kyle Williams

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 3>as your guy in that stack, like it's it's pretty

0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:20.120
<v Speaker 3>clustered together, So I wouldn't, you know, be too mad

0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.879
<v Speaker 3>about that. But those four guys, if that, you know

0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.479
<v Speaker 3>what Deuce was describing, and I agree just looking at

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 3>the way they've moved throughout this process too. With the Patriots,

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 3>it does seem like they're trying to get separators, which

0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I think is is good. Like I think they are

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of trying to get away from, you know, the

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Jalen polk archetype maybe a little bit, and get guys

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.720
<v Speaker 3>that can really get open at the top of the

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<v Speaker 3>route and down the field. And all four of those

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 3>guys would fit that category.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just soon to jump in real quick before I

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:49.199
<v Speaker 4>go to uts, just because Jack Bash and Savior of

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Restrepplo Restrepber around four a five down and is pro

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:52.680
<v Speaker 4>day not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop his status.

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<v Speaker 4>Those are the guys I'm struggling a little bit with

0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.880
<v Speaker 4>because I think I look at their personalities and they're tough,

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 4>and they may catches and they seem like Rabel kind

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 4>of a guy's But I don't think this is what

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 4>this team needs right now. We got a bunch of

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 4>those kind of guys, so I respect how those guys play,

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:09.080
<v Speaker 4>and I mean he can't of course. You know Jack

0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 4>Besh's story with his brother passing away, as you know,

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 4>and then the performance he had in the Senior Bowl

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 4>catching the last touchdown.

0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Great performance. And you know you love how Reverstreppo.

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 4>I loved him at the at the Combine too, just

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:20.880
<v Speaker 4>the way he talked about the studying and the time

0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 4>he puts in.

0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>But for me, I'm leaning more towards those speed guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with you dudes. Ristreppo dropped down a

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 6>little for me. I like Tess Johnson also, and then

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 6>some really late round guys Jimmy Horn junior from Colorado.

0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm a coach, frime guy, but best guy there.

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.560
<v Speaker 6>I also want to throw out Rock Taylor. He was

0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 6>in my NCAA season, of course, but no, he's He's

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 6>just a prototypical outside receiver. Good hands, can make a

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 6>big play. So that might be like, you know, a

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.479
<v Speaker 6>seventh round pick guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a tough time, like you mentioned with

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:58.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, Betch and Alika alamnaer Tz, you know, Tess Harris. Yeah,

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.719
<v Speaker 3>like those guys, like I, I I don't know if

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.920
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna really bring like the game bake breaking element

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 3>that this team needs. Like I feel like the Patriots

0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.680
<v Speaker 3>need some special movers on the offensive side of the ball,

0:24:10.760 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 3>like some real separators, some real speed to that position.

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Like some people think Betch is gonna be like a

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.399
<v Speaker 3>flex tight end at the next level. You know, I

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of thought of him as sort of like Juwan

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Jennings type, right, you know, like that kind of receiver,

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, a man or same thing. Like he's he's thicker,

0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 3>and he's got a really good, you know, play strength

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 3>to him, and he's got some explosiveness, but he's not speed.

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, He's not fast down the field. And I

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.160
<v Speaker 3>think they are going to try to get some more

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 3>of those guys. So just a couple of those guys

0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.720
<v Speaker 3>on on late you know, later in the draft Day three.

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've I've talked about Dante Thornton a lot

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 3>from Tennessee. I like to call him the Joe Milton

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.119
<v Speaker 3>of wide receivers, Like he's one of those guys that

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.919
<v Speaker 3>if you just looked at the raw data and the measurables,

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 3>you'd be like, how is this guy not like DK

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>metcalf good, Like he's a freak. He's like six foot

0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:03.600
<v Speaker 3>four two o five four three forty yard dash, just

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 3>looks the part coming off the bus. But then you

0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 3>look at the box scorer and he's got like one

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 3>catch for fifty yards and you're just like, all right, well,

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 3>but he's really good at that one thing. You know,

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 3>he's got one really good thing vertical speed and game

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.159
<v Speaker 3>breaking speed, and he's really good there. You know, if

0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 3>you want more of like the Patriot type, you know,

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 3>the McDaniels type, Isaac Teslav from Arkansas reminds me a

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 3>ton of like a little bit more souped up Jacoby Myers. Right,

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he has a little bit more burst and a

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.880
<v Speaker 3>little bit more speed, but he's that guy that's gonna

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 3>play a lot inside and just be a you know,

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.240
<v Speaker 3>reliable for you in that spot. So if they're looking

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 3>for that sort of Patriot old school archetype, you ever Strepo,

0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:45.680
<v Speaker 3>you have him, Like those are those types of.

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 4>Guys everybody else, Paulia that stood out to you and

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe.

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 5>You haven't brought up Nick Nash. That just seems like

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 5>a Mike do So special right there. You know, Jake Bobo,

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:56.399
<v Speaker 5>that's true.

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 6>Where do you think, Kyle Phillips, where do you think

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 6>the receiver pick would happen?

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Like you, I feel like if it's not in the second,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>it could.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 2>One of those two third rounders, one of those two

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:05.919
<v Speaker 2>one of the third rounds.

0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the sweet spot. They got two third rounders.

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 4>There's usually a guy hanging around there. I mentioned the

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 4>group that I like, but but yeah, let's uh well,

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 4>let's move.

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<v Speaker 2>On then, just one real quick on the receivers.

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.719
<v Speaker 3>Like on that note, I think this receiver class has

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of gotten a little bit of a bad rap,

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.960
<v Speaker 3>Like it doesn't have the top end talent that last year.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Did you know there's no Marvin Harrison junior. There's no

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.679
<v Speaker 3>Molik Neighbors in this class. But to deuce his point

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 3>the day to talent like there, if you just want

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 3>to find a guy that can be a starting receiver

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and like the number two or a number three receiver,

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of that in this draft,

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of gets meaty there. I mean we

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:46.640
<v Speaker 3>just rattled off probably ten names of guys that fit

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 3>that type. So I don't like totally sleep on this class.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's gotten a lot of crap because

0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't have those, like you know, blue chip prospects

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 3>at the top.

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 4>Well, one class that hasn't really gotten a lot of

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 4>crap is the running back class, which we'll move on

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 4>to now, and I would qualify this as maybe a

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 4>questionable need. We've heard a lot of talk throughout the

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 4>spring from Mike Vrabel, from Robert Kraft that they're intrigued

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 4>by this class they'd like to add back with some speed.

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I find myself I can't get a beat on this class.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 4>I've looked at a lot of these guys a bunch

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 4>of times, and I think I just have a blind

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 4>spot for evaluating running backs, maybe because.

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>They all look pretty good to me.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's why I picked Ashton Genty in one of

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:28.480
<v Speaker 4>my mock drafts and made everybody very mad. But look,

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 4>when we get into this process of watching prospects every year,

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed watching Ashton Genty.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Now, is he the right pick for the Patriots is

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 2>probably not.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 4>But when I look at the draft process as a

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 4>whole when you have to sit down and watch guys play.

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 4>I hadn't have a better time watching anybody than watching

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 4>Ashton Genty just run through guys. And it got even

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 4>better at his pro day where he looked like a

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 4>mini Hulk out there. So he's the cream of the class, Paul,

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.360
<v Speaker 4>and after that, there are some good players. But let's

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 4>allow ourselves to imagine what kind of player he's going

0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:00.080
<v Speaker 4>to be in the pros. I mean some questions, of course.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.719
<v Speaker 5>Jense just saying yeah, no, I think he'll be terrific,

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 5>and I think he can catch the ball. And you

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 5>brought up when you caused all the commotion in the

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 5>first place, you brought up LT you know, And I

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 5>don't think that you're alone. I think people look at

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 5>that kind of versatility. I just think it's too high,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, it's it's too valuable of a pick to use.

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 5>But I don't do you guys have any doubt that

0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 5>he'll be a productive player in the NFL. I think

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 5>you will be.

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just a question for me of how long,

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 3>like how long is he going to have the shelf

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 3>life for he has a little bit of where and

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 3>Terry carried that offense at Boise State. I think that

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 3>the biggest thing, you know, I don't really see uh

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Ladanian Thomlinson with him because Latanian Thomason, to me, like

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.880
<v Speaker 3>was a difference making pass catcher as well. And I

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know if gent at five foot eight, with that

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 3>catch radius and with his just kind of lower center

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>of gravity and skill set, is really going to be

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 3>a guy that you're going to be like moving around

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 3>the formation as a receiver and like trying to feed

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 3>the ball to you like the Chargers did with the

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Danni and Thomlinson. So the comp that I've kind of

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>come to with him is like, you know, a better

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>version of Maurice Jones drew, like, you know, a low

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 3>center of gravity, you know, explosive bowling ball type of

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 3>running back. He's got great, you know, probably some of

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>the best contact balance that you'll ever see in a

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 3>running back that just bounces off tackles, runs through tackles,

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 3>runs around tackles, just a constant tackle breaking machine. I

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 3>think he had something like one hundred and sixty two

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 3>for Smiths tackles last year at Boise State.

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 6>I think he was almost a thousand yards after content.

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, third, Yeah, so it's it's he's absolutely a

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 3>blue chip prospect and extremely talented.

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 6>Here's here's a question though, like we say Forrest too high,

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.400
<v Speaker 6>if we were at seven, like, is that do you like,

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 6>is that a serious consideration?

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, is Membo still there? Is Will Campbell's still there?

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I mean I think we'll get to the

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 4>tight ends in a second. I think Tyler Warren is

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 4>probably worthy of that conversation as well. But as we

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 4>get down here the list, and as you said, it's

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 4>a very strong class. We've heard all ring that they're

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 4>gonna be guys drafted throughout the all three days of

0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 4>the draft, where you'll have contributors coming and running back

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 4>A'mrion Hampton probably the second guy saw comp to him.

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 2>James Connor seemed about right to me.

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 4>And and I just throw the two Ohio State guys

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:14.960
<v Speaker 4>out there, Henderson and Judkins.

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Some really good option run probably.

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:19.239
<v Speaker 5>Like Hampton's got good size and speed. So yeah, I mean,

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 5>I think there's some intriguing prospects. I'm looking more for

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 5>the old school, you know, Josh McDaniels is back. I'm

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 5>looking for those Shane Vveren James White types, you know,

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 5>probably a little bit further down. But these guys, I

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 5>mean the two Ohio State guys in Hampton, I think

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 5>these guys are all good players.

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about that as well.

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.239
<v Speaker 6>Paul Chris and I did a joint mock and we

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 6>were kind of between Devin Neil and DJ Giddens. DJ

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 6>Giddens fits more in the receiving back role, but just

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 6>very shifty. I haven't given up Hope. I'm Ramondre yet,

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 6>so pair him get into with Ramondre.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 5>Devin Nils a football player, he can play.

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think you know, when you start to get

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 3>into Day two at the running backs, it's what kind

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 3>of running back do you want to draft? Because there

0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 3>there really are a lot of different buckets that you

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 3>can put them into. Do you want the early down

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Devin Neil type of running back that's gonna be sort

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 3>of like a lead you know, Bell cow type, or

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>are you looking for that Shane Vereen James White receiving

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 3>back which we can get to some of those names.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm a big fan of Travon Henderson from

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma Ohio State. I just feel like he's a little

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 3>bit like Jamier Gibbs, like he's gonna have that kind

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 3>of game speed and that kind of big playability. Judkins

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 3>runs angrier and runs with a little bit more power

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 3>and force. But Henderson is the is the explosive machine.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, He's the big play machine. And then you

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>start to get into the Giddons and the Nils and

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>you know all that. You know, Scataboo, even like you

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 3>get into that tier, those guys are like early down guys.

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Those guys are gonna be first and second down running backs.

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I tend to think they're going to go more towards

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 3>the speed guys. Just from what we've heard them say.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.000
<v Speaker 5>It sounds like even even Robber Kraft.

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>A speedback.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 5>So I think you think you're probably onto something.

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't get that out of my head. I

0:31:58.680 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 3>don't think that that was a miss take. Like I

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>think someone told him, not necessarily to say it, but

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>like someone was telling him that information. So you look

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 3>at the you know, the cluster of those backs maybe

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 3>on early day three, you know, Burchard Smith from smu Wood,

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 3>he Marks from usc LA, Quinn Allen from Sarahcuse, and

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Jayden Blue from Texas to me or like the fourth

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 3>or fifth round sweet spot of receiving backs. Yeah, he

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 3>fumbles a lot and he drops a lot of passes,

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 3>so his hands aren't great bat but my goodness, can

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 3>that dude run right?

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Absolute home run here?

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? So you know, watching him like linebackers like try

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.280
<v Speaker 3>to cover him on wheel routes is like, good luck

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 3>with that, you know. So he's got speed. Brichhard Smith's

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 3>a converted wide receiver, played wide receiver earlier on in

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 3>his career and then moved to running back at SMU,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 3>so he can run routes as a receiver. Uh, and

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 3>with great ball skills. Woody Marks is kind of like

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 3>a little Dion Lewis type, right, you know, a little

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>scat back that got good lower body strength and good jukes,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.959
<v Speaker 3>you know, get on the juke stick and all that

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff. The Quinn Allen's like it reminds me

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of James White, Like, you know, more smooth,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 3>quick than fast, a good blocker. I see a little

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>bit of that. Like he's probably not a game breaker

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 3>in terms of the speed, but he's got that ability

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 3>to get open at the top of routes.

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.719
<v Speaker 4>I just got to get Damian Martinez in there. He's

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 4>another one I enjoyed watching from Miami. Tackle breaker, chain mover,

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 4>kind of guy, runs hard, those my style. I just

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you guys, though, I find myself wondering, like,

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 4>what are they looking for? Are they looking for an

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 4>all around back? Do we want to go back to

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 4>having a big back and a catching back?

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Hard to say.

0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, you see all these teams are running back

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 6>goes down and they're able to just plug and play somebody.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 6>But also Oli Gordon Oklahoma State thirteen touchdowns, eight hundred

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 6>and eighty yards.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 5>Good player.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he got a little boxton in twenty four because

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.040
<v Speaker 6>they weren't as good team, but as twenty three tape

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 6>was really good, so that'd.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Be another player.

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 5>But he basically was the offense. And sometimes, and I

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 5>know Evan talks about the workload with some of those guys,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 5>But when you're the focal point. That's why genty I

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 5>think was so impressive. When you're the focal point and

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 5>you still find a way to crank out one hundred

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>yard game after a hundred yard game, there's something to

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 5>be said from that. You're not you're not sneaking up

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 5>on anybody, You're not taking advantage of light boxes. Everybody

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.439
<v Speaker 5>is geared to stopping you, and you still produce those

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 5>Those are the guys that can play.

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Ali Gordon, if they're going to go for that

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>early down running back, I think Oli Gordon might be

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 3>their guy. Somewhere in the fourth round would make sense

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>for him. Damian Martinez is another one of those guys

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>in that mold.

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 5>The couple of guys that I like that probably too

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 5>rich for the Patriots, you know, like Dylan Sampson, Jordan James.

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 5>I just probably too early because you guys are right,

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 5>it's probably gonna be a day three.

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I think Jordan's back.

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Jordan James will probably go a little bit later.

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.479
<v Speaker 5>I like, I mean, I just like those organ guys.

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it might be, you know, one of

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 5>those things. It's kind of an irrational like you know,

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 5>earlier when we were talking about wide receivers, Tease brought up,

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, the Ohio State guys and they have that

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 5>they've hit. You know, it's like those those little guys

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 5>from Oregon seem.

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 2>To be good players.

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:01.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, they're not all the mo you know, physically,

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, they're not gonna you know, be the most

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 5>imposing guys, but they find a way to produce. And

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 5>I've watched Jordan and James a little bit. I think

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 5>he could do some some of those things in the

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:11.680
<v Speaker 5>Josh McDaniels offense.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think he could be available on Day three, honestly,

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 3>and and and be there for them. Dylan Samson's my

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 3>one of my draft crushes out of this running back class.

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 3>I love him. I think he might go right between

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 3>pick thirty eight and pick sixty nine. And I just

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:29.240
<v Speaker 3>don't know how the Patriots are gonna, yes, second exactly

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 3>how we're familiarow, yeah, how they're going to figure that out?

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 3>Good joke. But he's he's awesome and I you know,

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>really good runner. Kind of reminds me a little bit

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 3>of Brian Westbrook back in the day, like good, you know,

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 3>a good shifty runner. But but he's what I like

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>so much about him is that he's really efficient, Like

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 3>he's not just trying to dance to dance, Like he

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 3>makes a cut and then it's up the fields, right,

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 3>and it's really a fishing on the tracks. They don't

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 3>really throw to their running backs much. Alvin Kamara, So

0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 3>like when you get to the league, I think he's

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 3>going to be able to catch more passes than he

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 3>did at Tennessee. I just don't know if the Patriots

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 3>are going to be in a spot to take him,

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 3>but they met with him throughout this process, and I

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.760
<v Speaker 3>think he'll definitely be on their board.

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 4>Well, if I had to place a bet, I would

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 4>say the Patriots are going to draft a running back.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I think we just rattled off about twenty names. It

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 4>felt like that all intrigued. So place your bets now.

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 4>Running back probably going to get taken. And that leads

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.000
<v Speaker 4>us to our final positional preview here of the spring.

0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 4>It's the tight end position. Last year, I remember we're

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 4>so all about the tight ends. It was a great

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 4>class two years ago, felt like it was a great

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, there's always they always think this is a

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 4>pretty good I'm pretty solid class right now, and I

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 4>think for me, I wonder, you know, where are the Patriots.

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 4>We brought back Aston Hooper, have Hunter Henry, two veterans there.

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.399
<v Speaker 4>You know, last year you brought in Jahean Bell as well.

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 4>Developing behind the scenes, You've got Jack Westover in some

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 4>of the I mean, you got a bunch of names

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 4>in there to any of these guys intrigue them enough.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.280
<v Speaker 4>Probably again and probably not at the top with Tyler

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 4>Warren and Colston Loveland.

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Loveland with some injury issues, but.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean Tyler Warren in a perfect world, he seems

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 4>like an ideal kind of patriot, I mean, and do

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:03.399
<v Speaker 4>it all tight end.

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Brings a little swag to it.

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 4>If you watch college football, which even I did this year,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 4>you couldn't miss him.

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 2>He was outstanding.

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he does a lot of things. Well, I've talked

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 5>to some people that are familiar with the program, as

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, and they just they rave about him. You know,

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 5>He's just one of those guys that just always wants

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:24.959
<v Speaker 5>to get better. He does a lot of different things.

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.400
<v Speaker 5>Play even played some quarterback. Obviously those are things that

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 5>you're not necessarily going to ask him to do smart

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 5>though in the NFL, but just it speaks to his

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 5>versatility as an athlete. I'm not saying that I would

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 5>take him with the fourth overall pick, but I think

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 5>he's in whatever you want to say a dozen players

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 5>that you put him in a bucket, and depending on

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 5>what you need, you might say Will Campbell, you might

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 5>say Jalen Walker. You might say Tyler Warren.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 2>He's that good.

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's probably one of the cleanest prospects in the

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 3>draft period, just on the field, off the field work ethic,

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 3>but also just the prospect himself. He does a lot

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 3>of things really really well, and it kind of gives

0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 3>him like a nice floor of this is gonna be

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 3>a starting tight end in the NFL. Do I think

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:12.520
<v Speaker 3>he's gonna be Gronk or Travis Kelcey or I mean,

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 3>maybe not, but he's going to be a starting tight

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 3>end in the league. And I think the best thing

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 3>that he does to me, though, is his versatility and

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 3>his ability to move around the formation. And those guys

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>are interesting, but they're also you know, you have to

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 3>have a plan, you know, of how exactly we're gonna

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 3>make this guy a focal point of the offense. But

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 3>certainly he carried Penn State's offense on his back last year.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 3>He was the focal point there. I like that. I

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.080
<v Speaker 3>like that he's already had that on his plate at

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 3>that position. It's not always that way in college football.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 3>They'd often underutilize the tight end, but he was the

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 3>offense at Penn State, so he knows what it's like

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<v Speaker 3>to have to be the number one guy. I would

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 3>say that in terms of his receiving ability. You know,

0:38:53.160 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 3>he's got that gronk to him where he can just

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<v Speaker 3>be a center on the basketball team and just out

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 3>muscle you, whether it's at the catch point in the

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 3>red zone, run people over after the catch. You know,

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 3>he's a physical guy. He can do those types of things.

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 3>He's got a little bit of burst in his routes.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 3>Probably not as much as Colston Loveland, but like has

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of that too. But I say the

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<v Speaker 3>best trait that he has is that he's just a beast.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's six six two and fifty five pounds.

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<v Speaker 3>He can block. He's a very good all round player.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he's anything on Loveland?

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<v Speaker 6>Not much on Loveland actually, but I have no love

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<v Speaker 6>for Loveland. But talking about the tight ends, Chris and

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<v Speaker 6>I and our joint mock, we've had Gunner Helm in

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<v Speaker 6>the fifth just kind of a do it all all

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<v Speaker 6>around tight end. Evan had a Hunter Henry comp there.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't think the Patriots are going to take a

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 6>tight end too early, So maybe that fifth round is

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<v Speaker 6>the sweet spot.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of athletes in this seat.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Mason Taylor. Of course, we know great geans

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<v Speaker 2>for him, look like a he's a good player, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>running a combine.

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<v Speaker 4>I know he's kind of underutilized a little bit lsu

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:53.399
<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a projection there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just throwing a few names out there. Elijah Royo

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<v Speaker 2>coming off an acl Harrold fan and.

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<v Speaker 4>Junior is another one I liked just you know, fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>hundred yards ten tds this year.

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<v Speaker 2>But all athletic guys. I mean, it seems that that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Where I think I struggle a little bit with, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>who do you get? I mean, is you're going to

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<v Speaker 4>draft in the day two, day three tight end weapon

0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 4>good enough to knock Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper down.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to see that projection.

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 4>That's why I'm a little bit lower on this overall class.

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<v Speaker 2>For the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'm kind of with you. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a good tight end class. Certainly, those two guys at

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<v Speaker 3>the top are really good prospects. And we talk a

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<v Speaker 3>ton about Loveland. He's definitely in the donut right, He's

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 3>definitely right there in the first round doughnut. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>probably the closest thing to Brock Bauers in this draft

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of the play speed and the dynamic route

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.239
<v Speaker 3>running ability, but he had the injury. He doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the production that Tyler Warren had, but he's younger, and

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 3>he's faster, you know, and he's more dynamic. So if

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 3>there are teams out there that have Close and Loveland

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<v Speaker 3>as the number one tight end over Tyler Warren, I

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 3>won't be surprised at all. Like, I think there's definitely

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 3>a case to be made. But to your point about athletes,

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 3>like that's typically what translates at the position to the

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 3>league is the raw athletes. It's one of those positions

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 3>where like things like the combine is still holding up

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 3>in terms of translation. So you know, Terrence Ferguson from

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 3>Oregon had a great combine, had good college production. Was

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 3>used more of like as like a safety valve at

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Oregon than a downfield receiver. But you think there might

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:21.919
<v Speaker 3>be some untapped potential there. You know, Elijah Royo, same thing,

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 3>can't really block, but it can run routes and can

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 3>make plays down the field as a receiver. And the

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:30.279
<v Speaker 3>gunner Heelm I comped to Henry because he's kind of

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 3>more of like that old school, like, you know, just crafty,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:36.399
<v Speaker 3>good at the top of the route, uses his body well,

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:40.320
<v Speaker 3>uses his physicality well. Can run the scene, but probably

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.200
<v Speaker 3>not his best thing, but he can do it. Blocking

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 3>can do it. Not his best thing, but he can

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 3>do it. I think that Gunner Helm's going to be

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback's best friend. He's going to be very quarterback friendly,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.479
<v Speaker 3>big target in the middle of the field, and he'll

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>help you move the chains.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Those other guys maybe a little bit more explosive. But

0:41:57.920 --> 0:41:59.759
<v Speaker 3>if I had to pick one of these guys out

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 3>of this group, you know, if you want to go upside,

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably say Ferguson probably has the highest ceiling just

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 3>because the athletic profile, but Helm is probably the steadiest.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 3>Like he's probably the easiest to project.

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<v Speaker 1>Else.

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<v Speaker 6>I got Luke Lache, Lashie Lache. You just got shout

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.520
<v Speaker 6>out all the Iowa tight ends. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 6>great program for that.

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.160
<v Speaker 5>You'd be wrong to overlook them. And you know another

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 5>you know NFL name right in Ronde Gatston. You know

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 5>the same kind of thing at Syracuse you.

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 2>Always look for that.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 5>You know, we talked about Mason Taylor with the blood lines.

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 5>It's a lot of bloodlines at that position. But I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with you, Mike in terms of the Patriots. I

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 5>don't think when you you have Hunter Henry and then

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.400
<v Speaker 5>you re sign Hooper, you're more than likely forget the doughnut.

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 5>You're more than likely not really interested in drafting that

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 5>position unless it's like a Day three flyer.

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:51.319
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I think it's one of those things the way

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.600
<v Speaker 6>the board plays out too, Like if if a gunner

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 6>Helm is there and like that's the best player, why yeah, he.

0:42:58.000 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Belt to offering, you know, just give us some time

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 2>to development. Don't know, an athletic guy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's tough to I've kind of cooled off on the

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:06.759
<v Speaker 3>tight ends a little bit for the Patriots because of

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 3>the reasons that Paul brought up, Like it's already a

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>position that's slow to develop as it is, and you

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 3>have two really steady veterans and Henry and Hooper. So

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 3>if there's your team like the Patriots, you want your

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 3>early picks to play like you want those guys to

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 3>have a path to the field and to play early

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and to contribute early and as good as you know,

0:43:24.800 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 3>as appealing as some of these names are at tight end,

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Like if you draft Mason Taylor, who I think might

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:31.920
<v Speaker 3>be a really good player two to three years from now. Like,

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 3>you're not really in a position as the Patriots to

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 3>wait around for your draft pick in the top one

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 3>hundred to make an impact, Like you need guys to

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 3>come in that can help you today, you know, right now.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 3>And I just don't know if this group necessarily is

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.120
<v Speaker 3>going to do that for them unless they go like Warren,

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, in the first round, if they're going to

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 3>really have that out of the group. So are you

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:54.040
<v Speaker 3>willing to just use a pick on a stash, Like

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>are you willing to stash a Terrence Ferguson and develop him?

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Are you willing to stash Mason Taylor, you know, younger

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>prospect and develop him and then kind of pass on

0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.760
<v Speaker 3>having a top one hundred pick play as a rookie.

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's necessarily the best use of

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>that asset.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, that's gonna do it for this episode

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