1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: Siche Welcome to Girls Talk Boys Talk, brought to you 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 3: byen vis Line. Here with Christy Scales, Aishan Morrison, I'm 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 3: your host for the day, Jess Navarrees. Nicole has taking 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: a little well to served day off. We love her. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: We miss our same thing with Bree. She's working some 13 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: pretty cool events as well, so we'll get to hear 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: about that next week. But ladies, we did it. We 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: made it. We made it to the other side. Oh yes, 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: it is post draft. The Cowboys have their rookie class. 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: There's so much to get into, but I just want 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: to go into your initial thoughts of how the Cowboys 19 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: ran picking these selections and overall. 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: What you thought of their bored go ahead, solid, not 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: sexy right off the bat. There you go, that's it, 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 4: but it could be could become sexy if Asuaku and 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: then Revel if they live up to some of the 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: expectations and some of the what's being forecast of their roles. 25 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: I know Revel's coming off in injury there, but yeah, 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 4: and then Jaden Blue with the running back, the first 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 4: of two running backs taken, could be like Pollard early 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: in his career, kind of out of the backfield catching 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 4: the ball but basically or hand off, you know, some 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 4: speed and being a home run hitter. So I know 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 4: that Cowboys nation overall, I'm not I know that every 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: one of you watching it doesn't necessarily agree with this. 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 4: We all have our different opinions, but I think overall 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: Cowboys was a bit disappointed when they didn't get a 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: wide receiver or go with the running back earlier. But 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 4: if you believe in the mantra of sticking to your 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 4: board and best player available, then I don't see how 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 4: you can complain about the way the Cowboys handle this draft. 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean and their BPA and our BPA, Like 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 5: there's there's a humbling that comes with this and being 41 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 5: even being the time that I had the opportunity to 42 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 5: be like a media scout like. 43 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 6: It is. 44 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: Their They're professionals for a reason. They do this every day. 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest thing I took from 46 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 5: the draft, like you said, Christy, is that they just 47 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 5: took their board. They didn't try to reach, they didn't 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 5: try to do anything extra. As a matter of fact, 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 5: they got fantastic value on some of these guys when 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: you look within the numbers and where people had them ranked. 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 5: I think they are also too from a lot of 52 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: the conversations and going through the roster, a lot of 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,119 Speaker 5: team captains, a lot of leadership guys. That goes back 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: to the pre draft presser. Knowing the person, knowing the player, 55 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: wanted to understand their love for football and things like that. 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 5: This is also a lot of these gentlemen were not 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 5: just taken because of the capability. They were taken because 58 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 5: of the temperament and trying to re establish, you know, 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 5: something new Shoddy get in his feel what he wants 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: to locker room to feel like. I think that's a 61 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: big played a big role in some of the guys 62 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 5: that we drafted as well. 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so let's go down our list of the 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: newest Dallas Cowboys. We have guard Tyler Booker. Obviously it's 65 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: turtle like, can we count that as love the Turtle. 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: Let's see. We have defensive end Donovan Ezraku, cornerback Savante Revel. 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm sorry if I'm saying these wrong. I practiced like 68 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: twenty times before we started recording. Running back Jaden Blue, 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:59,279 Speaker 3: linebacker Shamar James, offensive tackle Johnny Cornelius, defensive tackle Jay Tuia, 70 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: running back Film Afa, and defensive tackle Tommy A. King 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: King Basote. We're gonna get it. Look, there's one, there's 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: another one of our names. We have to practice. 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 5: King make me and make me have to stand up. 74 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: You already know I have puns ready. 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of my friends in Dallas. 76 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: Cowboys haven't even started yet, or. 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: The equipment staff just trying to you know, like checking 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: it eight times before they put it across the back 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: of the jersey. 80 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: I mean me trying to spell it out, just to 81 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: pronounce it right. Guys. Out of those names, and of 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: course we can get into the undrafted free agents you know, 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: at some later point. But out of the drafted rookies, 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: who do you feel like can contribute quickly? 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: And why Booker just uh, I think it's going to 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: be plug and play, and uh, I'm interested in y'all's 87 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: opinion on this, because in past UH staffs, iterations of 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: just that have come through the rookies. You know, supposedly 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: they have to earn it right and there'll be a 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: veteran in front of them, and then midway through camp 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: they'll overtake them. But I wonder if Booker's just going 92 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: to be put it right guard, you know, with the 93 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: first team from day one, or will they go ahead 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 4: and have Brack Kaufman out there until, you know, give 95 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: it a you know, some practices or with Booker what, 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: how do you think they're going to handle it. 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 7: I don't know. 98 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 5: I just don't what's the point of that anymore? I mean, 99 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: earn it, having him earn it, I get, I get 100 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: the idea of it. But at the same time, this 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 5: is a first round pick. You expect immediate and you 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 5: expect immediate production or immediate impact. So it's like, I 103 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 5: don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't know. And 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 5: then also too with with Brock Kaufman, I wonder how 105 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: he's feeling right now, with the work he's put in 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 5: and things like that, Like maybe that's a discussion they 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 5: have with him. But if they compete, fine, but I 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: think he'll end up being the starter at the end 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: of well. 110 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: But you know, you'd say the same thing about Tyler Goyton. 111 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: And if a Doga had not gotten hurt in camp, 112 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: a dooga I think would have been the starter on 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: day one, and Gydon became the starter with a dooga 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: out and then when Adoga came back, Geiton couldn't hold 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 4: on to a spot. 116 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 5: And that's based on ability, though I feel it is. 117 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: But we were saying the same thing last year because 118 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: Giton was your number one pick. 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 5: Some people will I always had my questions. 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: That's fair, but that's fair. Do you feel like this 121 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: guard competition is already kind of set in the coaching 122 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: staff's minds for who they want is the starter or 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: do you feel like it's one of those things Christy 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: and you go into training camp, you duke it out 125 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 3: and best man comes out your starter. 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: I think it's more than lip service. I think I 127 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: think that it's a real. 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: Thing because not physically duke it out. 129 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 4: No, no, exactly, that's clear, that's true. No, I mean 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: you do have to it has to be more than 131 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: lip service. It there really does need to be the 132 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: competition because the NFL is a game of attrition, and guys, 133 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 4: they're all gonna end up, most of them are gonna 134 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: end up playing and having a chance to contribute at 135 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 4: some point, even if it's starting one or two or 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: three games a kind of thing. So they need to 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 4: be ready and you also need to keep them engaged. 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, I still think Booker is going to be 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 4: the starter from day one. But but you you still 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: need to have guys have a reason out there to 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 4: give one hundred percent every day. 142 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 5: He's gonna have his uh, he's gonna have his times 143 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 5: and things like that. But again going back to my 144 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: original point, the temperament I think is going to be 145 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: a big driving force with this, especially with this offensive line. 146 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to muddy things up a little bit. 147 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 5: I think they're trying to get a little nasty there. 148 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: As far as to answer your question, who do I 149 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 5: think that out of the class that can come in 150 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: and help you right away? It's very difficult. You already 151 00:07:54,880 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: win Booker. I'm gonna say Jaden Blue okay out of 152 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: Texas running back, mostly because you have not had a 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: gentleman that has real second level breakaway speed for a 154 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 5: while and even the couple, even the last few years 155 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: of Tony Poller are dealing with his injury. Coming off 156 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 5: of his injury, we didn't see that explosiveness at the 157 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 5: second level until maybe the end of the season. So 158 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: you have a guy that can really threaten the defense. 159 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: It's gonna make you pay if you take bad angles. 160 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 5: I am ecstatic about that, paired with Clayton Adams coming 161 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 5: in Tyler Booker kind of what they're trying to do 162 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: on this interior. Jaden Blue being added to this running 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: back room and being a real speed threat and a 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: receiving threat and a receiving threat as well is something 165 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: that I'm really looking forward to in this offense. So 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with him. I'm gonna go with him. 167 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and now as Roku as well. 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean yeah, she made us pick one. 169 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: But he's gonna get a lot of He's gonna get 170 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: a lot of opportunity. 171 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Maybe that was is we wanted to Ezu Rako, get it, get. 172 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: It, get it in jail as a rock goo. 173 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we really need to practice that off 174 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: camera and we'll practice and then we'll come back together 175 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: on that. Well, I only pause this here because you know, 176 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys went firmly on their board and they weren't 177 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: winging it per se. On the other hand, here on 178 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: Girls Talk, Boys Talk, we're going to play a game 179 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: called winging it. And Aisha had this fantastic idea and 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: she made me really want to go to wing Stop. 181 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: So we are going to base our favorite wing flavors 182 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: from wing Stop off of how we rate these picks. 183 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: And furthermore, maybe not who can be a plug and 184 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: play player, but who intrigues you the most and what 185 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: flavor you're giving them going into their rookie season. Aisha, 186 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: who is winging it for you? 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 5: Who's winging it? Winging it. 188 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 3: Out of West flavor, out of the draft class, out 189 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: of the draft flavor? Are we talking? And why? 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna go with Chavon Revel cornerback out of 191 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 5: East Carolina, number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I know, 192 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: I got him, I got him. I'm gonna go, Yes, 193 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna give him casion. That's what I'm 194 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 5: gonna go with. I'm gonna go with the Cajun rub 195 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: because his game is already you see what he's able 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 5: to do in the press He's very physical as a tackler. 197 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 5: He's not afraid to come up and tackle. He got 198 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: some feisty to him. East Carolina's been pushing out some talent, y'all. 199 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: I'm glad to see their program improving. But if obviously 200 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 5: he's dealing with the recovery from the injury, if he 201 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 5: comes back and he is, you know, he can fill 202 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 5: in that you know, cornerback, two spot, or whatever the 203 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 5: case may be. You get that little kick mid season, 204 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 5: you get that little kick at the end of it 205 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: or whenever he is he is ready to go, And 206 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 5: I think that that would really up this defense that 207 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: I do think is has done some things to improve 208 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: their front seven. I think that secondary still is kind 209 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: of like what's gonna happen there? If you can get 210 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 5: that little kick, that little Cajun kick at the end, 211 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: and it's a rub, it's not a sauce, so it's 212 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 5: not gonna be too blatant. It's just gonna be like, Okay, yeah, 213 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 5: you know it's there, but you're gonna feel it a 214 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 5: little later. 215 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 3: When you read the description at Wingstop, it says tossed 216 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: in original hot, dusted with bold and zesty Cajun seasonings. 217 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 3: So you're expecting bold and zesty. 218 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 8: What we're hearing, Yeah, with a little kick, a little kissy, 219 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 8: I think he could really boost your your secondary But 220 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 8: your cornerback room needs a guy to come in with 221 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 8: some of the injuries and things that guys are coming 222 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 8: back from, You're gonna need a kick from one of 223 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 8: these corners. 224 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 5: And going into training camp, Christine season. 225 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and Shade and Blue is atomic? 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah atomic. Let's see it's the hottest we've got. 227 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: Find out for yourself. 228 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: That's the discreption because he's he's gonna be your home 229 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: run hitter. I think yeah. 230 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 3: And do you feel like that sets the precedent high 231 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: for him to go into this training camp and you know, 232 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 3: even rookie camp and all that, to be have the mindset, hey, 233 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: I could be at the starting running back of this 234 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: team or do you feel like that's ready set? 235 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: Well, I think your mindset should always be that you're 236 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 4: going to be on the starter. But I think that 237 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: what's great about coming in with this kind of expectation 238 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: being a fifth round pick or you know, MafA in 239 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 4: the seventh round. They can be part of a rotation 240 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 4: just like we were talking about Aziraku being part of 241 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: a rotation at defensive end and not having to handle 242 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: sixty snaps a game. You know, if you're coming in 243 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: and you're getting twenty twenty five snaps and you can 244 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: be fresh and you can have a role, especially in 245 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 4: an offense like this that sometimes you describe it as 246 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: a multiple offense, so you know where you want to 247 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 4: be good at lots of different things, but you can 248 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: you can carve a niche, right, you can have your 249 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 4: own role. And so I think that for some players, 250 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: in terms of expectations and where you're taken in the draft, 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: it may I won't say easier, because you should still 252 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 4: have that kind of self imposed pressure that desire to 253 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: want to be a starter. But the reality is I 254 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: think that that the young guys will be given a. 255 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: Role real quick. I wanted to play in this game. Yes, 256 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: of course, you know I'm going Tyler Booker, and that's 257 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: because hear me out. He's the description of this wing flavor. 258 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: It's sweet with heat and then some Seriously, when I 259 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: read that description so far, the impression we got from 260 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: Tyler Booker was a genuine, down to earth guy that 261 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: is just so easy to like, and I understand why 262 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: Schottenheimer had this draw to him as a player. Yeah, 263 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: sweet and easy, correct, But then with the heat. You 264 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: look at what he does on the field and it's 265 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: very Tyler Smith ESQ. Where you talk to him and 266 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: so easy to talk to, very likable, very easy to follow, 267 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: But then you see what they do on the field 268 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: and it brings the heat. I just love the stat 269 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: and I found this from ESPN that he gave up 270 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 3: one sack in nine hundred and seventy pass blocking snaps 271 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: in his three in three college seasons. That's heat, if 272 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: you ask me. And also bolstering up the run. Oh 273 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm so excited, guys. I'm so excited for 274 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: what he's going to do for this offensive line, just 275 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: absolutely making sure there's no excuse to not have a 276 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: solid run game because guess what started in the interiors, 277 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: it's making its way out and you just set up 278 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: whoever you're running back slash running backs will be for 279 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: the heat. So had to go with Tyler because again, 280 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 3: just hearing him during that press conference, he's he's so 281 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: magnetic and I had to give him that credit. 282 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: Girl, learning the backstories of these guys. Yeah, and here 283 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: in for him from them the first time and Ricky Camp, 284 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: the media will get a chance to talk with the 285 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: guys on Friday and Saturday. So here at the Star 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: in Frisco. Ricky Camp takes place Friday and Saturday, so 287 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: that'll be a time where you can get some one 288 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: on one and not just in big groups. But I'm 289 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: really excited to talk to Ravel because this is a 290 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 4: kid who was working over nights at an Amazon facility 291 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 4: right loading trucks and scanning packages and the like. And 292 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: he was a great athlete in high school, played cornerback 293 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 4: and wide receiver, a little bit of quarterback. But he 294 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 4: didn't qualify for any Division I schools because he was 295 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: academically ineligible and had to play two years at junior college. 296 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: But East Carolina and gave him a chance to play, 297 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: and after a twenty twenty three breakout season he would 298 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 4: There were reports, and it was a great story by 299 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: Chris Lowe on ESPN dot com, that he was getting 300 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: offers of upwards of six hundred thousand dollars in nil 301 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: money to go elsewhere and play at one of these 302 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 4: big programs, but he stayed true to East Carolina which 303 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 4: is the one that gave him a shot, and he 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: stayed there and then he ends up being drafted in 305 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: the third round despite torn acl and meniscus partial meniscus tear, 306 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: and so he stayed true and it paid off for him, 307 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: and he's one of these high character guys that Ayisha 308 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 4: was talking about the importance and the focus on the 309 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: draft and that. 310 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: The butterfly effect at its finest. 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There was a train, imaginary train 369 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: that a lot of people were on, and it was 370 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: the train of the Cowboys drafting a wide receiver in 371 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: the first round. But just at any point in that train, 372 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 3: it came and it and in fact it was an 373 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: imaginary train because it never existed. Didn't happen. I us 374 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: she was on that train. I think she was a 375 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: conductor of that train. 376 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 5: Hey, I was important to me to go skill and 377 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 5: at some point in time, and they did that with 378 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 5: the at least skin and jaydah On balloon. 379 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: So there you go. But let's talk about this because 380 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 3: that wide receiver room, we've discussed it on here before. 381 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: Needing desperately needing another target for Jack Prescott other than 382 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 3: seed lamb correct and a solid wide receiver. Two. Does 383 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 3: this worry you that, Yes, the Cowboys went out and 384 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 3: got some undrafted free agents. Tray Shawn Holden from Oregon 385 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: and then Josh Kelly from Texas Tech. However, on a 386 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: scale of one to ten, post draft, what is your 387 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: worry level for this wide receiver? Ring the alarm. 388 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 5: Girl, I had to say it and he had to 389 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: be mad. 390 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, But at the same time, it goes back to 391 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: what we talked about at the very top. Sure, we 392 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 4: wanted skill position players, but we also want best athlete 393 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 4: available and sticking to your board. They said post draft 394 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: that there were only twelve players that they had with 395 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 4: first round grades. Apparently only one of them was a 396 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: wide receiver, and it's the one who who winn t 397 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: Mac went off the board at eight to care Atlina. 398 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: So if they'd have taken Golden, then that would have 399 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: been or any of the other wide receivers that would 400 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: have been a reach. At twelve. They said that they 401 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: did have They were on the phone and there was 402 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: an opportunity to trade down, but the deal wasn't good enough. 403 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: So do you hold their feet to the fire and 404 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: say you should have taken a wide receiver or do 405 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: you praise them for sticking to the board. 406 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 3: So can you have both in this situation? Can you 407 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: have both? 408 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: Well, it didn't work out at number twelve without able 409 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: to trade down now where you can hold their feet 410 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: to the fire. Is also same thing with free agency. 411 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: But it's not done yet. I mean there's still trades 412 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 4: to be made out there, and I know there's people 413 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 4: that linka Marii Cooper and Keenan Allen. But Keenan Allen 414 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 4: his base salary is eighteen point one million, you know, 415 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 4: So if you make a straight trade and don't renegotiate anything, 416 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 4: you've got CD at what thirty three million a year? 417 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: And then if you pay Keenan eighteen so it's you know, tough. 418 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 4: By the way, we should mention that you've got eight 419 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 4: million on the cap for a wide receiver who's been 420 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 4: gone and that's Michael Gallup. So there are resources that 421 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: are being devoted to wide receiver even if the guys 422 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: aren't here. But yes, it's very disappointing that they that 423 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: you come out of the draft and you still have 424 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 4: a glaring hole. 425 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: What about you level? 426 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very concerned about it. I do, like, I 427 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 5: do understand that a lot of Clayton Adams system is 428 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 5: going to be play action and stuff like that, and 429 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 5: it is up too seed to scheme guys open and 430 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 5: things like that. But for the last two three years, 431 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 5: one of the biggest consensus has been, you get in 432 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 5: the playoff, you either can't run the ball or they 433 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: just bracket CD and that's it. It's night night. 434 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: You have not He. 435 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 5: Deserves for them to sign him to his contract. He 436 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 5: deserves someone to take pressure off of him. He deserves 437 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 5: someone on the other side of him, just like Jake 438 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: Ferguson deserves so a two that is going to be 439 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 5: consistent as well. We'll get through that later. 440 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 8: But I just. 441 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: It's too much. I think we've tried the I think 442 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert is solid. I saw him not be able 443 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 5: to get out for press. I saw him not be 444 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: able to have a real breakaway speed. I mean, you 445 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: brought in Jonathan Mingo, which again I want to be 446 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 5: fair to him because I want to give him a 447 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 5: shot to show what he's capable of with elevated quarterback play. 448 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 5: I just want to see how he connects. He came 449 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 5: in late last season, it probably took him some time 450 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: to get the playbook. Now he's on a whole new playbook. 451 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: Let's give him a chance. But other than that, like 452 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 5: Ryan Flinoy interesting. None of these gentlemen are proven. None 453 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 5: of these guys are proven, and I just think going 454 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 5: into this season without another proven wide receiver is crazy, 455 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 5: crazy to me. And I know that we're going to 456 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 5: get into some of the udfas because Treshawn Holden from 457 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 5: Oregon is interesting. He's interesting for multitude of reasons. If 458 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 5: this wide receiver room shapes out, we'll see. 459 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: Going through the depth chart right now, I'm looking at her, 460 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 3: I guess the roster. I shouldn't say the depth chart 461 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: the roster. Jalen Brooks, Paris Campbell, Ryan Flinoy, Calvin Harmon, 462 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 3: Ceedeelamb obviously, Jonathan Mingo, Jalen Cropper, Jalen Tolbert, Cavanti Turpin, 463 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: and let's see Seth Williams. Those are your current wide receivers. 464 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: Out of the names that I mentioned, who do you 465 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: feel like is I don't want to say on notice, 466 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: but needs to have a near perfect camp to continue 467 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: getting opportunities, especially with talented undrafted free agents coming in 468 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: and potentially, you know, if there's some action in free 469 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: agency still at some point, I go. 470 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 5: Ahead, I would say Jayleen Tobert, Jonathan Mingo is gonna 471 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: give some grace because again he was they gave up 472 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 5: a fourth for him, they would have and got him 473 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: Jayleen Tobert, this would be his What he's going into 474 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 5: is what fourth year? 475 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: Third Yearbert? 476 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 5: Like his fourth year? 477 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: Yeah? Fourth, you got it? 478 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: Fourth year and that's what. 479 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 5: I'm talking about you, Yes, And he's going into his 480 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 5: his fourth year. What hurts Obert so bad was that 481 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 5: that first year was just so discombobulated for him and 482 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 5: it kind of put him behind the eight ball with 483 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: the gentleman like for Sean Holden, who I think they 484 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: have a lot of similar skill set. He this is 485 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 5: like put up a shut up time, I believe for 486 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: him in this with this wide receiver. 487 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: Room, let me ask you, ladies, hypothetically, do you feel like, 488 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 3: because you have Cavanti Turpin in there as well, and 489 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: you've heard the term gadget guy used tossed around, you 490 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: don't necessarily know what the vision is with Schottenheimer taking 491 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: the reins, and you know, you don't know kind of 492 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: where Cavanti could fit in in this wide receiver room. 493 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: Would you be willing to at this point, because he's 494 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: an established name, kind of say hey, it's time to 495 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: put him at more wide receiver than return guy. Are 496 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: you willing to take that chance if it means having 497 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: an established guy, or do you feel like it's fair 498 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: to keep him what he's been doing. You have the 499 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: return guy, you have the production there, but he also 500 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: has special packages set up for him as well. 501 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: I think that as a receiver, or even if you 502 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 4: use him on a fly sweep or McCarthy had him 503 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 4: out in the backfield a couple times, he's a threat. 504 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: But as a returner he's special. Yeah, he's special as 505 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: a returner, So I don't want to risk what he 506 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: can provide on special teams by over exposing him. And 507 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: he's a small guy. I mean, he's one hundred and 508 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 4: fifty seven pounds, so can wet. 509 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: I only ask because between him and Jalen Tolper obviously 510 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb extracted from this whole conversation, those are your 511 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 3: two most experienced starters up until this point. Terrace Campbell 512 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 3: has your seven, but again not really a well known 513 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: established name for this team. So again some conversations linked 514 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 3: to Marii Cooper. Nothing set in stone. We're just kind 515 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 3: of we're all in limbo waiting to see how this 516 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 3: shakes out, But another position group that I wanted to 517 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: get into as well as the running back room, because 518 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: you're setting up the trenches to have a run game. 519 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: Who's gonna run the ball? A ghost? Because genuinely, there's 520 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 3: no established guy who is your set one right now, 521 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 3: and that's such an interesting thing going into this year. 522 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: And that's not necessarily a bad thing because you can 523 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: set him up for that success. But at this point 524 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: right now, do you see it being one of the 525 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: guys already you know, on the roster that's been here, 526 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 3: done that, or do you see it being a rookie 527 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: that kind of takes over that rain. Are you seeing 528 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: a one to two punch? Where do you kind of 529 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 3: see this run game going so far? Based on what 530 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 3: we're seeing and how they drafted. 531 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're gonna see guys with rolls, Yes, 532 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: especially Blue and MafA as we mentioned so and you 533 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 4: know it's gonna be real. I think Javonte Williams yeah, 534 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 4: and Sanders I think you know what you've got in 535 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: him and Williams, can he get back to the player 536 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: that he was that first year in Denver where he 537 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: could be a guy that would be kind of your 538 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: lead back. Ideally that would be great. But here's the thing. 539 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 4: You have invested so much and I don't mean just monetarily, 540 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: but in draft capital, number one picks on your offensive 541 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: line three out of the four years. If you're only 542 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: paying lip service to running the ball this year, that's 543 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: a problem because you have invested so much in those 544 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: guys blocking and taking the pressure off Dak in the 545 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: run game. 546 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 3: So you have to. 547 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 4: Really stick with it this year. And I think that 548 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 4: adding those two draft picks late is helpful. But you know, 549 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: there are a couple of these guys, like your question 550 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 4: that you had before Jess about wide receivers, like who 551 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 4: were the veterans at the position that really need to 552 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: look out? I mean Malik Davis and Duce Vaughan. 553 00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 5: I mean do so much. 554 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: I'd like four percent of snaps last year on offense 555 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 4: and was a healthy scratch most weeks. And then Malik 556 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: Davis couldn't get promoted off of the practice squad. So 557 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: those guys are certainly on notice. And I'm real interested 558 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 4: to see what kind of role Lipkey has this year 559 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 4: because we know how McCarthy, you know, liked to use 560 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: him and envisioned using him a lot more in his 561 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 4: role continued to grow. I'm excited to see what Schottenheimer does, 562 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: and we're not going to see it in preseason games 563 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: because you're not going to reveal hand of how you 564 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 4: want to use people. But when we get to training 565 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: camp and get to watch the practices, that'll give us 566 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: a better idea. 567 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you talked about the investment. I mean not only 568 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 5: did you invest on the offensive line, you have invested 569 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: with the coaching staff as well. Sure, bringing in offensive 570 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 5: line coach Connor Riley from Kansas State and the successful 571 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 5: the success he had as an OC there also too, 572 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 5: and even with Clayton Adams, like seeing the efficiency that 573 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 5: they have with with that he had with the Cardinals 574 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 5: in rushing up per game in EPA. It's that's to 575 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 5: me also a part of the investment in the run 576 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 5: game and kind of points to the direction that you're 577 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 5: trying to run the ball. What I'm trying to figure 578 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 5: out is, I know the two ladies were talking about 579 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 5: the running back room. You're talking about the who's going 580 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 5: to be the lead back. I believe given the that 581 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 5: it was a trade or whatever the case would be, 582 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 5: I think, well, right, Javontae was acquired by trade? 583 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 584 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: Or was he by trade? 585 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Right? 586 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: I thought it was free agent, but I'll double. 587 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 5: I think it's free agency. 588 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I was lost. No, no, no, it was 589 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: a free agency movie. Yes. 590 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 5: So I think that Javonte Williams might start off as 591 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 5: the guy as that they lean on or whatever the 592 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: case may be. But these two rookies are coming, and 593 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: these two rookies, and we talk about this all the 594 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 5: time with different regimes, different things like that. 595 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: Like Circle of Life. 596 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely so to me, I think Jaden Blue is going 597 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 5: to year change of pace back. I think that MafA 598 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 5: is gonna be more of like your bruiser. And if 599 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 5: Javonte Williams is going to give you anything, he has 600 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 5: versatility in a lot of ways as well. Really curious 601 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 5: to see where Miles Sanders fits as well, though, because 602 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 5: I don't know how many racks you're gonna even be 603 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 5: able to carry with how some things have panned out. 604 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 5: But like you said, with the running back round, it's 605 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 5: it is kind of weird to still not know for 606 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: a second year it who's who and who's doing Yeah. 607 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: The thing I think what's different though, is the circumstances 608 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: surrounding it because you had established guys here at that 609 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 3: point in this locker room that just hadn't had chances. 610 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: Y'all know what I'm talking about, Rico Danell. But this 611 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: this current running backs roster. I mean, what's interesting about 612 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: Malik Davis? As you know, he kind of flew under 613 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: the radar and I want him to go out and 614 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, fight for his spot. He's been here, he's 615 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: earned that. But when you if you're a Deuce Vaughn, 616 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: how do you fit into this when you're Hunter Lip. 617 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it's there's just so many questions. 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If you're 675 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: in Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, Midland, or El Passo, mark 676 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 4: your calendar for dates and tickets, visit Dallascowboys Cheerleaders dot 677 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 4: com slash tour. So that's the final week of May 678 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 4: going through the state of Texas. Very exciting this is 679 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 4: this is the first time that the cheerleaders have done 680 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,959 Speaker 4: an on tour. They sell live performances throughout the state. 681 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 4: It's going to be awesome. 682 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: I will say all my Alpasto friends have been posting 683 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: and they're very excited for it, and I've been compting 684 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: like I better see you guys trying out then, like 685 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 3: every single one of you going, I need to see 686 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: the videos. So very good stuff there, Christy. All right, ladies, 687 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 3: let's get into important dates because Rookie Mintiecamp right around 688 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: the corner. Let's see Rookie Minti Camp can be either 689 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: held on May second through fifth, or May ninth through twelve, correct. 690 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 4: So it starts on May second. It's going to be 691 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 4: at the end of weeks, okay, but at the end 692 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: of this week. 693 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: And let's get into that a little bit more, because here, 694 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: I think this rookie class, especially with a new coaching regime, 695 00:36:55,120 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: is going to set a tone very quickly kind and 696 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 3: for how the rest camp plays out. And I'm interested 697 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 3: to see what the differences are between a McCarthy rookie 698 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 3: camp and a Shotenheimer rookie camp. Christy, what is the 699 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 3: importance of having this rookie minute camp, And more importantly, 700 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: how do you see a progression of who's ready. 701 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: It's so important because it's really the only time that 702 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: a rookie is going to get the individual one on 703 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 4: one instruction from their position coach assistant position coach on 704 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 4: the field, because once you get to OTAs a week 705 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: later and you've got the veterans around, that's it. And 706 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 4: there are so few players that are out on the 707 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 4: field for a rookie camp. I can think of years 708 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 4: past where there would be one tight end on the field. 709 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 4: You would bring in one or two quarterbacks for tryouts, 710 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 4: just so you could have someone to throw the ball 711 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 4: to your wide receivers and your tight ends. Sometimes you 712 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 4: might only have you don't even have five offensive linemen 713 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 4: to make of full line. So so that individual attention 714 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 4: and the just working on the fundamentals and the technique. 715 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: The attention to detail is so important. So and the 716 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 4: way that that how one coach does it or another coach. 717 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: It's so proscribed or i should say restricted by league 718 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: rules of what you can do in the off season 719 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 4: on the field, what you can do class work wise, 720 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: because they don't want them to work too much. So 721 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 4: these rookie they're in addition to the rookie camp where 722 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 4: you're on the field for a few days with the coaches, 723 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 4: there's the developmental program and that's a seven week period 724 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 4: and it begins May twelfth. I'm talking about the off 725 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 4: field stuff with this development program, so it can't be 726 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 4: on the weekends, and it's it's about off the field 727 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: things as well as you know, getting into the playbook 728 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: as well, So it's it's very important. And then right 729 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 4: now just on the field, you know, we were having 730 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 4: lunch and could look out and see that we're in 731 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 4: Phase two. So the cowboy veteran players are out on 732 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: the field, but the offense is out there for thirty 733 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 4: minutes and then defense comes out for thirty minutes most 734 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 4: of the work. It's a half day, but you have 735 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 4: a special teams meeting. Offensive players have a meeting, defense 736 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 4: has a short meeting. And right now we're still we're 737 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: just in phase two of the off season program and 738 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 4: that goes for three weeks and then once we get 739 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: to phase three, that's when you start OTAs and that'll 740 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 4: be a little bit. It's in the first week in May, 741 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 4: but starting on like May fourth. 742 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: Right around the corner. Yeah, Aisha for you, I can't 743 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: believe this is not our first rodeo anymore? Can you 744 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 3: believe that when you look at rookie Minni Caamp? What 745 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: are some instant things you're kind of scouting out for 746 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: from these younger guys to I guess be noticed in 747 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: the right ways. 748 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, how they's like you talked about Christy's 749 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 5: it's a unique opportunity for them to get coaching. So 750 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 5: how are they taking the coaching? Are they pouty because 751 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: you see in powering, if they powder, if you out 752 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 5: there you see the paladin, you see the huffing and 753 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 5: the puffins. Are they taking the coaching or do you 754 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: can you tell that they're listening, but also to My 755 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 5: biggest thing is seeing like there's not a lot to see, Like, 756 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 5: there's not too much you can look for, but just 757 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 5: the movement, the natural body movement, their confidence, they're the 758 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 5: way they present themselves and things like that. It tells 759 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,479 Speaker 5: you a lot about it because their eyes wide open 760 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 5: coming in here, especially up in here, especially this place. Yeah, 761 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 5: they're learning so much at like you said, Christy, they're 762 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 5: going through learning so many different things at one time. 763 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 5: It's a huge adjustment. It's a big transition. How they're 764 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 5: taking on like that conflict I think says something about 765 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 5: the player, but mostly from like a film perspective. I'm 766 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 5: just looking at does this match kind of looking at Okay, 767 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 5: I thought that he had he was quick, he had 768 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 5: a quick first step. Does he really have a quick 769 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 5: first step seeing it in person? Has he made any 770 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 5: improvements from the time of the combine and things like 771 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: that or before that the Senior Bowl because people, a 772 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 5: lot of these kids keep working, they keep working on 773 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 5: their game, where they work with specialists, whatever the case 774 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 5: may be. So you can find little things like that book, 775 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: just confidence, movement, how they take coaching, their body language, 776 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 5: all that stuff that's all I really can take from yeah, 777 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 5: many camp for real. 778 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 4: And you can see kind of where the coaches are 779 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 4: forecasting where they may end up. Like Johnny Cornelius who 780 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: played right tackle at ore again but when the Cowboys 781 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: drafted him, you know, guard most likely right, so if 782 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 4: they have him working at you know, you can see, okay, 783 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: they do have him, yes, us some information. Yeah, you're right, 784 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 4: you can figure out what the coaches are thinking from 785 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: that perspective. But really OTAs as well, but especially rookie 786 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: mini camp, it's just to acclimate beyond guys to this 787 00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 4: is the structure. 788 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: Of practice and you know what, to be fair, I 789 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 3: wonder how much of that will be going on during 790 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: OTAs as well, just under Schottenheimer, right, And I'm interested 791 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 3: to see just kind of the differences in what we 792 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 3: were used to seeing from the MacCarthy era. Real quick, ladies, 793 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 3: before we go, I want to kind of get into 794 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: the starting jobs up for grabs, if not you know, 795 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 3: second spots, important high up roles that this team needs. 796 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 3: Are there any specific vets not the ones that we've 797 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: already mentioned, that need to have good camps, whether it 798 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 3: be starting and it starts at OTAs, and you know, 799 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 3: mandatory many camp and everything like that. Shotenheimer's put a 800 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 3: big emphasis on leadership and you've seen that through the 801 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 3: draft process. Like I usould mentioned earlier, who needs to 802 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 3: have their p's and q's ready to go? Everything is 803 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 3: spit spot perfect because they could be un notice going 804 00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 3: into this camp. 805 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: Well, I would say, Jalen Tobert if he can rest 806 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 4: the number two jaw. I mean again, I think right, 807 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 4: I think I think the number two receiver is not 808 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 4: on the roster right now. Yeah, there's still moves to come. 809 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 4: But who's going to be the starting cornerback opposite Bland? 810 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,240 Speaker 4: If Diggs isn't Here's it going to be elin? 811 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 8: Who? 812 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: Who? 813 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 7: You? 814 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 4: Who you brought in? I don't know so so I 815 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 4: mean there are spots to be had for sure. Yeah, 816 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 4: and then linebacker who's gonna step in there? 817 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 3: You know? 818 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 4: Leah Foul has a real chance to think mic. 819 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think he'll be your mic. But I 820 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 5: think Samborne will be there as well. But to answer 821 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 5: your question for me, is Loule Schoolmaker big dog? Big 822 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 5: dog like it's been it's been a couple of years now. 823 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 5: Obviously he's dealt with injuries mostly every training camp and 824 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 5: I believe. 825 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: There was some kind of something done over the off 826 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: season as well. I'm not sure exactly what, but but 827 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 3: uh to your point, just an injury history. 828 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Luke Schoonmaker is a gentleman that needs 829 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 5: to be to be ready and prepared. 830 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 4: For the hold off brevn span Ford. 831 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 5: Uh No, I mean sure. I think Brevin span Ford 832 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,040 Speaker 5: has a little bit of wiggle in the passing game. 833 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 5: Obviously you can split him out and he's he was 834 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 5: brought here for his block and ability. I am trying 835 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 5: to find my notes. He was brought here for his 836 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 5: block and ability. There it is, But I think that 837 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 5: the gentleman that they brought in from one second, one second, 838 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 5: let me get to it. 839 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 3: Ten. 840 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 4: Yes, the Titan from Ulle Neville from Virginia. 841 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 5: Fairweather Voldo fair Weather is very intriguing for a number 842 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 5: of reasons. I think the block and ability is something 843 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 5: that can still improve. But he's exciting in the open field, 844 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 5: kind of a bully, big catch RaSE his strong hands. 845 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 5: I do think that he could make it this, make 846 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 5: this a little interesting from a tight end standpoint, I 847 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 5: or at least maybe push a Noah fan or one 848 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 5: of those gentlemen that's on this roster. Brevis span Ford, 849 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken, was one of the higher paid 850 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 5: undrafted free agents last year. We'll see if that carries 851 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 5: anyway going into this year. But I think that wide 852 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 5: receiver two spot being up for grabs almost all the 853 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 5: last year. Nobody taking it, nobody taking it. Maybe one 854 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 5: of these youngins comes in and comes in and takes 855 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 5: it this year. You you need something. 856 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 4: Well, the thing about Holden, we've talked about him as 857 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 4: an undrafted rookie free agent. Guess who his position coach 858 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 4: was at Oregon. Oh yeah, it's the new wide receiver 859 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 4: coach for the Cowboys junior ams. So there's familiarity there to. 860 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 3: Kind of put a bow on this as well. I'll 861 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 3: go further up and say that highre tight end room 862 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 3: baby talk about No. You know, I love the tight 863 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 3: end room and that is my favorite position. And but 864 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: here's the thing. We know Jake was dealing with injuries 865 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 3: last year, and he will be the first to tell 866 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 3: you that he did not have the season he wanted. 867 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 3: He even said that I believe, and we're going to 868 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 3: give him that grace because again, it was very un 869 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 3: Jake Ferguson last year. We know that everybody else are 870 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: What are you as a tight end and what role 871 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 3: do you play on this team? You don't know yet. 872 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 3: There's a lot of undistinguished question marks with this tight 873 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 3: end room that need to be distinguished and figured out, 874 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 3: because now if you have that run game, you have 875 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 3: that shored up offensive line, you have no reason to 876 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 3: keep continuing tying up your tight ends with just blocking 877 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 3: and they can be receiving threats and honestly they need to, 878 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 3: especially if they're still figuring out who the wide receiver 879 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 3: two is. You need your tight ends to be open. 880 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 3: You need to be able to have those options. For Dak, 881 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: especially coming off of injury. You don't know how mobile 882 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: he can be. You just need to have everything ready 883 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 3: and prepare for him to be successful as well. So 884 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: for me, that whole tight end room is kind of 885 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 3: another one another guy. Last thought that came to my 886 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: mind with Sam Williams and we know he's coming off 887 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 3: of an injury. I'm not sure what his progression is 888 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 3: as far as how his rehab is going all that. 889 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 3: Haven't spoken him or really seen any updates on that. 890 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 3: But ez irak Wu coming in really has rocked that 891 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 3: de room, let me tell you, because it was already 892 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 3: stiff competition for Sam, who was on the rise right 893 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: before his injury. So I'm interested to see kind of 894 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 3: how he comes back. But I think he's another guy 895 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 3: that unfortunately is getting shuffled in with these names and 896 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 3: kind of pushed towards the bottom because of injury, and 897 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 3: he didn't get a chance to really prove last year 898 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 3: what he could do because of it. 899 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 5: That's a really good point. Yeah, that's a really good point. 900 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 5: This is this will be Sam's yeah, fourth as well. 901 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 4: And just off the field stuff and his health. For me, 902 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 4: he hasn't reached his potential yet. R. Then you've also 903 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 4: got Nyland who had the injury last year. 904 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 5: I'm a little bit more confident he's my nugget. 905 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 4: But I know, I don't mean questions about Nyland. I 906 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 4: think you know exactly what you have in Land. I 907 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 4: mean Sam Williams competing with mess so either. 908 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a lot of questions unanswered as the 909 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 3: weeks ago. We will figure it out together. We are 910 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 3: all in this together, ladies, because we're in for a 911 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 3: very long off season. But it's gone by quick, Christy, 912 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. We love having you on 913 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: as always. We love you so much and keep killing it. 914 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,359 Speaker 3: Just love, love your work. I love you, and congratulations 915 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 3: on another successful draft because we we just know. I 916 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: take you forecast and all the things. 917 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 4: I take a deep breath now, no, no, no, no no. 918 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 5: I honestly, y'all, I had to. I put on Twitter. 919 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 5: I took some time to take care of my mental 920 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 5: and physical health this off season. It's been good to me. 921 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 5: I appreciate the time. I'm happy that we know who 922 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 5: the Nuggets are, so now I can just study the Nuggets. 923 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 3: The thing is go from here. I was gonna say, 924 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 3: even despite that, you're gonna put your best effort and 925 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 3: you already have to studying, and we love you for that. 926 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 3: But all right, ladies, we are out of time. Thank 927 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 3: you guys for joining us for another fun, exciting, thrilling 928 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: your favorite episode of Girls Boys Talk presented. Bye in 929 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 3: VISI line. We'll see you at same time, same place 930 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 3: next Tuesday. 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