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Regarding the head coach Sean McDermott. 16 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: There are those around the organization, including the Bills Mafia, 17 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: disturbed by what they see inside deals on a team 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: that appears to be great, but regressing the Bills, especially 19 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: with Kansas City winning another title, what does that mean 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: for them? Latest on Aaron Rodgers still think the Raiders 21 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: make so much sense. I want to start with this though. 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: So I was listening to a digital brief digital piece 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: by JJ Reddick on a podcast, and he was defending 24 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: modern day players and Jana specifically on how great he is. 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I collected baseball and NBA cards when 26 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I was a kid, but I'm not a sports romantic. 27 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the reasons that I just 28 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: don't spend a ton of time watching or talking about baseball. 29 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: It's very much a rear view, mirror sport steeped in 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: its lore and history. And you know, one of the 31 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: things I like about the NFL Sunday is all that matters. 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: And I feel the same way you know about the NBA. 33 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: We don't spend a ton of time, although the Michael 34 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: Jordan Lebron debate certainly gets plenty of airtime. But clearly 35 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: nutrition's better, training is better, the skill level is better. 36 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: It's now much more of a global game. Europe is 37 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: all in Asia, There's there's players everywhere. But I will 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: say this, there are four or five things to me 39 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: that make a great player an all time great. Your 40 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: skill level, You can do multiple things. Your production. You 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: have to be productive, you have to win. Great players win, 42 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: your uniqueness, do you do things others haven't, and your replaceability. 43 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: You know Tim Duncan the Spurs Greg Popovitch an all 44 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: time coach. Spurs have been a disaster since he left. 45 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan is one of the twelve greatest basketball players 46 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I don't care about MVPs where you 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: are in the scoring list. All the players I think 48 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: are all time greats are productive, and four current players 49 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: are part of the twelve greatest players I've ever seen. 50 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: And that's something when you consider how long the NBA 51 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: has been going on. The first dynasty was George Mike 52 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: and the Minneapolis Lakers. After that it was the Celtics 53 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: in the sixties. In no particular order, the twelve greatest 54 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: basketball players I've seen based on production, winning, skill level, replaceability, uniqueness, Lebron, 55 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: Steph k D and Jannis are all in it. I 56 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: think Jannis, if you look at guys of his size, 57 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: his ability to bring the ball up the floor, hit 58 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: a jumper, He's the best player in any given moment 59 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: in the NBA on both ends of the floor. Steph, 60 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Lebron k D and Jannis. I think k D in 61 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: a one on one tournament would be the greatest NBA 62 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: player of all time. He could dribble past the bigs, 63 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: he could shoot over Lebron or MJ. I think Katie's 64 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: an all time talent. The others are Shack, Kobe, MJ, Wilt, 65 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: Kareem Duncan, Bird and Magic. I didn't see Russell play live, 66 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: he was limited offensively. Did not watch Oscar Robertson a 67 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: Keem Barkley, Doctor j all very very good. But those 68 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: are the twelve greatest basketball players I've ever played. But 69 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: JJ Reddick's point is nobody is a perfect player. You know. 70 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Lebron's pretty darn close. He passes, handles the ball, defends, 71 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: shoots at an all time level. He's not a great 72 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: three point shooter. He's very streaky. But Michael Jordan was 73 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: not a three point shooter. Kobe always had better range. 74 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was a good ball hand a little bit 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: of very average pass or. He didn't intend to pass 76 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: very much, nor did Kobe. But the players are better today. 77 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: I think we're very lucky, in my opinion, for the 78 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: twelve greatest players in basketball are playing right now, And 79 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that is hyper. I don't think it's unrealistic. 80 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: I think Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of my lifetime. 81 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Lebron's arguably the greatest player. K D is the single 82 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: hardest offensive player to stop who can also put the 83 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: ball on the deck. Kareem not really. And then Janis, 84 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: who is last four years to me, is elevated in 85 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: the most talented basketball era now, the most global basketball era. 86 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Now he's the most dominant player. You know, esthetics do 87 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: matter in sports because how we view games now is 88 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly on TV and not live. And you know, I 89 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: do think it's easy to pick on the NBA because 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: the seasons are very long. Like hockey, you're talking over 91 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: eighty games, overnight travel, sleep deprivation, and the toll it 92 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: takes on your body. Unlike football. You're not being tackled, 93 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: but you get such a rest period after football games. 94 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Even the short Thursday games you play Sunday afternoon, you 95 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: play Thursday night. You don't really hit in practice that week. 96 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: That's the shortest between NFL games, you know, and that's 97 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: four full days. But I do think, you know, I 98 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: noticed this the other night when Boston, all five starters 99 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: sat for their game against Milwaukee, and Jason Tatum there's 100 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: an argument to be made of all the top NBA 101 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: players between the minutes and games he played, he deserves 102 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: a rest, but there are other games you could rest. 103 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: I thought it was a classic example of here was 104 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: a calendar game, a circlet on your calendar game. Celtics 105 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: made it a close game, went to overtime before they lost. 106 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: But it's a bad look and something that needs to 107 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: be duly noted is the NBA negotiated nine days off 108 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season for the NBA All 109 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: Star Game. I am not opposed to that, but if 110 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: you're going to get nine days off, then you got 111 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: you gotta play. If you're a Celtic starter in Milwaukee, 112 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: you just gotta play. You just gotta play. I think 113 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: some young fans don't realize that it wasn't that long ago, honestly, 114 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: that players flew commercial. If you played in Boston and 115 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: the next night you were playing in Miami or wherever Atlanta, 116 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: you were often on the first flight in the morning 117 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: on Continental airlines or United Airlines, you'd be sitting next 118 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 1: to a Celtic. Now everybody's got their own team playing, 119 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: So the luxuries of quadrupled the All Star break nine 120 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: days for a majority of the players. And simultaneously, Jalen 121 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Hurts is playing hurt all through the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes 122 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: is playing with like a Grade two level. I think 123 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: it's a grade two level high ankle spring So when 124 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: you have NFL players who are playing with the kind 125 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: of ankle sprain that keeps players out, puts them on 126 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: the injured reserve list, You're getting nine games off for 127 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: an All Star game. I just think it's a bad 128 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: look for the NBA. Yes, I think there are too 129 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: many NBA games, but these have been negotiated. Do I 130 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: really believe if he went from eighty two to seventy games, 131 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: players wouldn't miss games. We ask more and more of 132 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: our football players play another week, another round of a 133 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: playoff game. The athletes are bigger and stronger, the hits 134 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: are harder and come faster, and they still fight to 135 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: get on the field. It's a badge of honor to 136 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: play hurt. I thought that Milwaukee Boston game, and I 137 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: know Jalen Brown had been hit in the face. I'm 138 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: not saying everybody had to play. I thought that was 139 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: such a bad look, as we're getting ready a week 140 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: before a nine day layoff. For a majority of the Celtics, 141 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: esthetics matter. 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Through the years, 162 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: he's been spot on on a number of Packers stories. 163 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: He's got a Packers story he's working on. He's also 164 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: been writing about the Buffalo Bills. We have been highly 165 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: critical of Sean McDermott on my radio and TV show. 166 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: In an offensive pivoting league, they really feel like they're 167 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: playing nineteen eighty three football. Let's first start, though, with 168 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: your Green Bay updates. So there are certain things that 169 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: are already out that the Packers are willing if Aaron 170 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: wants out to move, they are happier today than a 171 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: year ago. With Jordan Love. They would send him to 172 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: the AFC, not the NFC. That stuff's all out. Mark 173 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: Murphy said last week, we'd like him to give us 174 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: a decision sooner than later. Those four things are all out. 175 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: My take has been a pretty simple one that if 176 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is a B level quarterback, that this is 177 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: a pretty good roster. With an additional first round pick, 178 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe a third, Packers draft and develop at a pretty 179 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: high level. They need an edge rusher, another tight end. 180 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: They're pretty good. So any apprehension would lead me to 181 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 1: believe they have huge concerns about Jordan Love. So let 182 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: me start with this. From what I can tell, it 183 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: does feel like they feel pretty good about Love as 184 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: a potential starter. Is that what you go from? You know, 185 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: recent discussions. You know, I've tried to talk to as 186 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: many players as I possibly can these last couple of weeks, Colin, 187 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: because it does harken back to two thousand and seven, 188 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight when Green Bay went from Brett 189 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: Farr to Aaron Rodgers. They could make that move. Ted 190 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Thompson saw it every day in practice. And if anybody 191 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: knows if Jordan Love is ready, it's those players. It's 192 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: the teammates, It's it's who sees this quarterback day in 193 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: and day out, because they haven't really seen much on 194 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: game day. What they have seen has been really, really 195 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: promising in that Philadelphia game, and to a man, player 196 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: to player, guys who have been on the scout team 197 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: have faced him in practice. They insisted Jordan Love as 198 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: ready to be a starter in the NFL, and I 199 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: guess it kind of dates back. Even a Jamal Williams 200 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: who was just with him that that rookie season. He 201 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: held up his hand when I saw him in Arizona. 202 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: He's like, look at this pinky and it's all busted up, because, yeah, 203 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: that's from Jordan Love. You know, he's sift it to 204 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: my finger. There is a rookie they got. The guy 205 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: can sling it. He's got some rare physical gifts. That 206 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: that's the reason they drafted him. That that's what popped. 207 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: But since that point forward, I think he's learned the 208 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: offense and I think he's learned how to read defenses 209 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: and he's putting it all together. You saw in that 210 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: Philadelphia game he hit that back foot and the ball 211 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: was out. He can run Matt Laclour's offense. Yeah. Um, 212 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: you know there's concern in San Francisco that Trey Lance, 213 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: it was reported this week, isn't as athletic as San 214 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: Francisco hoped and he struggled with accuracy. My takeaway is 215 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Love right now is a more refined Trey Lance. 216 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: He is athletic and he is accurate. Now does he 217 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: have the juice the it? Very few do? Right? Like, 218 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: that's like eight on the planet. I also believe, and 219 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: I don't have this sourced. Um, I did see two 220 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: different Packers at the Super Bowl. I'm not ready to 221 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: go public with what one of them said yet. I 222 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: may soon, so I'll hold off, but I'm not not 223 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: ready to go there yet. But um, the Packers were 224 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: an irrelevant franchise for most of the seventies and eighties, 225 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: and I do feel like there's there's almost a fear 226 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: in the building to be irrelevant. I I sense that. 227 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: But I'm on the outside. You tell me you used 228 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: to live there. You still cover them? This this feeling 229 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: of oh, and I argue tie the NFC, even the 230 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: two loaded rosters. Philadelphia has got so many free agents. 231 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Niners don't have the quarterback. Probably in September, this is 232 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: the time to rip it off. This is this is 233 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: not the AFC with five or six seven generational quarterback towns. 234 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that fear is just holding them from 235 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: ripping the band aid off? I think it absolutely has 236 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: been with held Mark Murphy, Matt Lafloor, Brian Goodikins, everybody 237 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: back from just if moving on. And We've talked about 238 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: this for two years. I thought they should have done it. 239 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: You know that that first summer when Aaron is kind 240 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: of dragging the team out to the public square and 241 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, dispatching his legion of surrogates and allies to 242 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: flaw green Bay. I mean that for four or five months, 243 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: all you heard is how could Green Bay let it 244 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: get to this point? But they begged, they pleaded. Your 245 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Matt Lafloor at the podium is just every possible way 246 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: begging Aaron Rodgers to come back. They have that meeting, 247 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: they have some backdoor promises. They give him a seat 248 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: at the table, They trade for a washed up Randall Cobb. 249 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: You know, they do all these things, give him what 250 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: he wants. Because of that fear. I think they're terrified 251 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: of life on the other side of Aaron Rodgers. And 252 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: you do see a lot of teams that live in 253 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: that purgatory. But I'd argue, I mean, look at the 254 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: New York Giants hanging on to Eli Manning and maybe 255 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: a year too long, the Pittsburgh Steelers hanging on to 256 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger year too long. That's the bigger mistake is 257 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: it's just tricking yourself into thinking that this guy might 258 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: pull off a Tom Brady. There's one Tom Brady. There's 259 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: one quarterback who can go to forty five doing what 260 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: he did, and we saw it last year with Aaron Rodgers, 261 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: the inevitable physical decline. His legs really aren't there, his 262 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: arm is average to maybe above average. He wasn't really 263 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: willing to work with those young receivers until it was 264 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: too little, too late. Hey look when Patrick Mahomes has 265 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: bringing guys down to Fort Worth, what was Aaron Rodgers doing. 266 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was good taking trips and hey, 267 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: we can mock OTAs all you want. I talked to 268 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: one player who said it would have been really nice 269 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: to have Aaron Rodgers and OTA's working on stuff, because 270 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: they got it. They turned a corner, but by then 271 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: they were what three four games below five hundred. To 272 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: answer your question, I'm shocked that it's taken this long, 273 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: but I think that the court of public opinion has 274 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: kind of changed. I think fans by and large are 275 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: getting a little tired of Aaron Rodgers act and the 276 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: drama and you know him saying, oh, I didn't know 277 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: that this Darkness Retreat was really going to take off 278 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: like it did. Get out of here. I think the 279 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: fans are smart enough to kind of read through it, 280 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: and they saw it most importantly, they saw what Jordan 281 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: Love could be, just like they saw what Aaron Rodgers 282 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: could be in that Dallas game in two thousand and seven. 283 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: So the fact that it's kind of turned, you know, 284 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: remember it's community owned, the fans owned the team. It's 285 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: a little different with the Packers. The fact that that's 286 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of changed, I think it is going to kind 287 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: of maybe get Murphy and Goudakinsina La Floor to a 288 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: spot where they finally once and for all trade Aaron Rodgers. 289 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Maybe my egos too big, but I feel like words matter. 290 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: And when Aaron said I'm going to go on a retreat, 291 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: a darkness retreat, which is fine, meditations, fine, that will 292 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: get me closer to a decision, that's kind of effing 293 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: with people. That would be like telling my wife, listen, 294 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm either way in the marriage. I'm gonna go on 295 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: a four day Vegas trip with the boys. That'll get 296 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 1: me closer to a decision. She would say, bullshit, I 297 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: want an answer when you get back. Like, we know 298 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: Aaron's petty, we know he cares, he's thin skinned. That 299 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: kind of feels like to me, Tye, he's kind of 300 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: hafen with him. It really does. You would never tell 301 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: somebody you were in business with. Hey, listen, I'm gonna 302 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy came out publicly and said sooner the better, 303 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: And You're like, yeah, I'm gonna go hide for four days. 304 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: It'll get me closer. Like, to me, that's you've moved 305 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: into poking in the ribs. That's what it feels like 306 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: to me. It would align with previous action. I mean 307 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: that this is what he's done for a few years now. 308 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, we have to read between the lines because 309 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: he's kind of speaking in code and beating around the 310 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: bush and nobody really knows and he's going on this 311 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: darkness retreat. I had the same reaction as you. It 312 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: feels like he's kind of messing with the team at 313 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: this point, delaying it when you know, there's that scene 314 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: in Seinfeld where George Costanza is telling you know that 315 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: the girlfriend I invented the it's not you, it's me. 316 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: That the team and Rogers are kind of going back 317 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: and forth in this like, well, I don't I don't 318 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: really want to trade you, but I want to trade you. 319 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: I don't want to be here, but I kind of 320 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: want to be here. Somebody's got to step up and 321 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: be like enoughs enough the Packers. They have that power. 322 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: They could go on the offensive here hell and do 323 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: something talk to teams while he's on this darkness retreat. 324 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: They haven't done it to this point. They're trying to 325 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: be delicate that they know he's a future Hall of Famer. 326 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: He's been the face of the franchise. I get all 327 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: of that, but at some point the lines were going 328 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: to cross. Right. This isn't the first time that Aaron 329 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: Rodgers has done some things that are have ruffled feathers 330 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: and you know, made management think a certain way, coaches 331 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: think a certain way. But he's been winning MVPs, he's 332 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: been taken to the conference championship game. It's always been 333 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: worth it. Now that ability isn't there, that talent isn't there, 334 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: at some point, you don't tolerate it, right, I mean 335 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you tolerate it because he's so damn good and he's 336 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: been good for so long. I think those lines have 337 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: crossed now, and that management, if you know, if you 338 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: read what Murphy has said with the team has said, 339 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: with the kind of leaked to the media, it seems 340 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: like they're ready to move on. And I say that 341 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: gingerly because you never really know. But I think that 342 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: maybe even the Packers are a little tired of this 343 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: act and they are in a spot too, once and 344 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: for all move on to a different quarterback. He's not 345 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: as mobile as he was three years ago. He's also 346 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: not quite as committed in the offseason. Has anybody inside 347 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: the organization ever hinted or acknowledged to you that they 348 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: do see a decline in his overall ability now turning 349 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: thirty nine soon. No, it's hard to get people to 350 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: that spot, you know, even even for background. I think 351 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: it's it's been hinted that. And when they talk about 352 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Love and how excited they are about Jordan Love, 353 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: how the ball just spins off his hand, how he's 354 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: so athletic and fluid and as a command of the offense, 355 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: because let's face it, teammates people in the organization. They're 356 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: they're scared to say a negative word about Aaron Rodgers 357 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: because they don't want to be cast off to the cornfield. 358 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're honest enough to say what you 359 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: really think, hell to just relive your experiences literally, just 360 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: say what happened in a game against the San Francisco 361 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers like a person you know very well. 362 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: And Greg Jennings, he might just call you, call your names, 363 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: call you this, call you that, and next thing you know, 364 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: you've got Packer fans at your neck for the next 365 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: five to ten years. So players, they tread very lightly. 366 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: And that's apartment I do think though, And how excited 367 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: they are about Jordan Love that kind of tells you 368 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: everything you need to know. You're working on a Rogers 369 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Jordan Love story. What is the angle on it? I 370 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: think that the angle what kind of got me going on. 371 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: This was a conversation with with Charles Woodson at the 372 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl actually, and and that point that he made. Look, 373 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: we knew Aaron Rodgers was ready. We saw it. And 374 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: I can remember being an intern out there at the time, 375 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: a college intern cover in that summer, thinking are they nuts? 376 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: Brett Farve just took you to an MC championship game, 377 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: you were thirteen and three. He's on the cover of SI. 378 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. But they knew, they knew, they had conviction. 379 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: They knew that Aaron Rodgers was ready, that he had 380 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: the talent, that they could make this bold decision. And 381 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, Charles Woodson didn't know. He's not there every day, 382 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: but they just kind of got the wheels turning on. 383 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I should probably reach out to the 384 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: people who do know everybody for you know, the practice 385 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: squad to the starters. Is this a quarterback in Jordan 386 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: Love who's ready to be the starter for Green Bay? 387 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: And he was fascinating. I actually talked to his personal 388 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach, Steve Calhoun, who has worked with some of 389 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks ever. They do some wild drills this 390 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: passtop season. He got Jordan to read the field with 391 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: both of the eyeballs. He convinced me he can one 392 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: eyeball looking wonder and I'm kind of looking in the 393 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: other to see the whole field. And there's a lot 394 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: of the stuff that he talked about last summer came 395 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: to fruition when we saw him in the exhibition games, 396 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: when we saw him against Philadelphia. David Yost is his 397 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: coach back in college. A ton of insights. So I'm sold, right. 398 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I thought that two years ago would have been smart 399 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: to just take your unlimited picks and prospects and move 400 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: on from Aaron Rodgers just because of everything he was doing. 401 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: But now that Jordan Love is in a place three 402 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: years in. Look, he needs game action. Look at all 403 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: the ups and downs Colin that Tua Burrow, Herbert Jalen Hurts, 404 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: all the other quarterbacks in his own draft have been through. 405 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: He hasn't gotten those ups and downs. So that's what 406 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: he needs. I mean, he just needs to get into 407 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the live game and learn on the fly now. Because 408 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: he's done enough of the other stuff. He's ready to go. 409 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this talking to people who know 410 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: Jordan Love well, he wants to start, Like I think 411 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: it's getting to the point of frustration. Whether it's in 412 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay or somewhere else, he wants to start in 413 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. So you live in upstate New York, right, 414 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: so you you cover the Bills. I think two things 415 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: are happening with the Bills. One, the Chiefs are relentlessly 416 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: getting better. They're drafting better. They're rebuilding the offense receivers. 417 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: They pay all of their receivers combined twenty million dollars 418 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills making you know that and more. Just with 419 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, they rebuild their old line an overnight. 420 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: The Bills four or five years with McDermott still can't 421 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: get the old line right, So that's part of it. 422 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: And they're losing, right, So they're losing big games. But 423 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I really thought, and you have, you've been writing about this, 424 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: the Skylar Thompson game in the two A game, and 425 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: they both came to Buffalo, and they both ended the 426 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: third quarter. In the fourth, you had a real game 427 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: on your hands. Warm Weather, Miami, cold Weather, Buffalow Skylar 428 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: Thompson game was bizarrely competitive in the second half. And 429 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: I felt like in both games, Mike McDaniel worked Sean McDermott. 430 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: He was more clever, more of an identity. I still 431 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: don't think the Bills have an offensive identity. I think 432 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: they just called plays how They're winning a lot of games. 433 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: But how much heat is on McDermott. I think the 434 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: fear is that Sean McDermott is dy Schotenheimer, Marvin Lewis 435 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: you know a coach who is a good defensive mind. Yep, 436 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Chuck Nahawks. There's a good one, right, go right down 437 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: the list where you know John Fox not a bad coach, right, 438 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,239 Speaker 1: He turned the defense around a big picture that that 439 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: building needed to be fumigated. I mean, it got really bad, 440 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: really fast with Rex Ryan, and so they did need 441 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: a pendulum swing to somebody who was more of a disciplinarian, 442 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: who wasn't wasn't gonna put up with, you know, certain 443 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: types of players, certain type of personalities. So that that worked. 444 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: They ended the drought, They build a winner, but at 445 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: some point the franchise identity needed to change from Sean 446 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 1: McDermott disciplinarian defense ball control to holy hell, we have 447 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, this transcendent talent that's six five, two forty seven, 448 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: leaps over your linebackers and is something we've never seen 449 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: at the position. And they're still kind of operating in 450 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: that old mindset. Look at this, Look at every single 451 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: playoff game that they've lost. I mean, the same stuff 452 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: repeats itself over and over and over again. The AFC 453 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: Championship game, the chip shot field goals. I mean, you 454 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: kick a field goal from whatever it was, the one 455 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: or the two before halftime to cut itto twenty one 456 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: to twelve against the Chiefs, only to get waxed in 457 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: the second half thirteen seconds the end of that game. 458 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: I was told didn't want the squib, he wanted the touchback. Whoops, 459 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: and then you have your dbs lined up in another 460 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: zip code. It's it's varied not to lose. It's it's 461 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: not aggressive, it's it's not a tenacious we're gonna win 462 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: this game mentality. And then you saw it again against 463 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. They're gonna lose that game ten out 464 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: of ten times they didn't calm ready to play. I 465 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: just talked to a player today who said we were 466 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: not ready, like we had no energy, we were lethargic. 467 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: But Sean McDermott again, fourth down, end of the first half, 468 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: a chance to get a two for one. You're in 469 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's territory. Your defense can't stop anybody, but you have 470 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: a chance on fourth down to go for it, score touchdown, 471 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: to get the ball at the start of the third quarter, 472 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: redctate the terms of this game into a shootout, and 473 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 1: they punted and Joe Burrow almost Scott the midfield core rage. 474 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: And then in the fourth quarter, fourth and two deep 475 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: in your own end, you punt. I get it. The 476 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: game ends right there if you don't get it. But 477 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get two stops in the fourth quarter. 478 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: That isn't gonna happen. You haven't stopped the nosebleed all games, 479 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I mean, for if the Bills 480 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: are ever going to get over this championship hump, Sean 481 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: McDermott has to change the way he coaches in the playoffs. 482 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm worried it's not going to happen. I think that 483 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: they left. They let the better coach in Brian Dable 484 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: leave the building. I think Brian Dable will win Super Bowls, 485 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: and Sean McDermott I have a hard time seeing him 486 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: win one with the way he operates. Yeah, if you 487 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: look at offensive coaches in the NFL, it is remarkable 488 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: how quickly they can patch up an offensive line. At 489 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: the beginning of this year, the Niners line wasn't great 490 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: outside of Trent Williams. By the end of the year 491 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: is really good. If you watch how Andy Reid literally 492 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: replaced his in one year, drafted, developed and replaced Trey Smith, 493 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: creed Humphrey, and then he went and paid for Joe Tuney, 494 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, Mike Tomlin, and Sean McDermott are on five 495 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: years unable to fix the old line and develop a 496 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: run game. Andy Reid rebuilds the old line, the receiving corps, 497 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: and finds Isaiah Piceco in the seventh round overnight. And 498 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: I don't think, listen, I don't think Sean Peyton leaves 499 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: the Saints. They're nine and eight, and if the Niners 500 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: don't beat the Rams in the overtime in the playoffs, 501 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: remember that, then Sean Payton gets Andy Dalton, Jamis Winston, 502 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Trevor Sime into the playoffs, he leaves, They're unwatchable. I 503 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: think we have a cultural change. Even the defensive coaches, 504 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: I like Tomlin MC they have no sensibility for it. 505 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: They can't Ron Rivera can't pivot. Fourth place defensive coach, Bears, 506 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: fourth place defensive coach, Jets, fourth place defensive coach, Washington, 507 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: fourth place, Houston defensive coach, fourth place, Like at some 508 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 1: point tie. This is not complicated. And if you ever 509 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: really got offensive coordinator, he's gonna leave to become a 510 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: head coach. That's because nobody's I mean, even this year 511 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: the Colts go with an offensive coach. I mean, all 512 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: the guys get gobbled up. Looking to get more out 513 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: of the NBA season. Well, now is the perfect time 514 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: to download fan Duel, America's number one sports book. 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One more story. Um, 541 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: you know I said this today, if if you and 542 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: your wife started discussing divorce, it's probably going to happen. 543 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: The fact that people in Chicago now and according to 544 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: multiple sources around the NFL, there's talk about moving off 545 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: justin fields, Well, it tells you it's not a slam dunk. 546 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: And I've always believed you can spot awful and great 547 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: very quickly. You know in one half that justin Herbert's 548 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: first start, he's it. First year, Joe Burrow before he's 549 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: hurt through for over four hundred yards in one game, 550 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: three hundred and three games, m Lamar Jackson first full 551 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: year starting MVP, Mahomes first year starting full starting MVP. 552 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: I think it was first year for Mahomes. Josh Allen 553 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: middle of second year, a lot of wow, you can 554 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: spot awful, Zach Wilson, EJ. Emmanuel early, you can spot 555 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: great early, and I think Justin Fields is neither. I 556 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: think he's going to be somewhere between the twelfth best 557 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: quarterback and the twenty second. Certainly good enough to start, 558 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: but there's accuracy issues here. Also, the old line ranks fourteenth, 559 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: Daniel jones O line ranks thirtieth. Daniel Jones has no 560 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: tight end as good as Cole Commet. Darnell Mooney and 561 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool would both start for the New York Giants. 562 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: So the old line is better, the tight ends better, 563 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: the receivers are as good, and though they don't have 564 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: a se Quon Barkley, the Bears have two very serviceable backs. 565 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: I think there's real consideration to move him. Do you 566 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: think if I said to you one, no way, ten? Absolutely, 567 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: where do you think the discussion meter is at? In Chicago? 568 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: They didn't draft him, This GM didn't draft him. I 569 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that right as history tells us 570 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: if a head coach and a GM or charge and 571 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: they didn't draft this quarterback, if it's not their guy, 572 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: you're out there ice like you're you're looking for your guy, 573 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: and they would They're absolutely going to do their due 574 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: diligence on all of these quarterbacks, right C J. Strout 575 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: included Bryce young Levis. I mean, they'd be they'd be 576 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: stupid not to to do everything they can to see 577 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: any of these guys is a franchise quarterback. I tend 578 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: to think though, that the Bears are looking at their 579 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: roster and they're seeing holes everywhere. It was a week offense, 580 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: it was a weak defense. They need everything that they 581 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: can play their hand in a way to really sell 582 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: the fact that they that they want a quarterback, whether 583 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: they do or they don't, and trade down because you've 584 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: got three or four teams in the top ten that 585 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: need a quarterback and everybody knows they need a quarterback 586 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: that you can have. You can get them basically fighting 587 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: each other to the death for that first overall pick 588 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: and get a bounty to rebuild your team. That just 589 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: seems really enticing to me. If I'm Ryan Poles to 590 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: know that, Okay, do we know if Justin Fields, a 591 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: guy we don't know. As you just said, you can 592 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: go either direction. You can look at him as he's 593 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: a thousand yard rusher, he's athletic, he had a big 594 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: armed Ohio State. Maybe we just have to put the 595 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: weapons around him and he can make that Jalen Hurts 596 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of kind of ascension here in year three. Or 597 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,959 Speaker 1: maybe the accuracy is something he's never going to learn, 598 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: but you at least give him a shot for a year, 599 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: because I think that ability to sell the fact that 600 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: you want a quarterback could lead to a ton of 601 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 1: picks because somebody's gonna fall in love with Bryce Young 602 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: out of that group, so somebody's gonna really view him 603 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: as the savior, and that could let you three or 604 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: four starters for all we know. Yeah, I mean, I 605 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: think Houston, because they're at two and has holes to fill, 606 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: will stay there and draft a quarterback. I could see 607 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: the Colts, who I think draft four or five. Maybe 608 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: it's five. I could see them saying, listen, our scouts 609 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: think Bryce Young special will give you our first round pick, 610 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: will take yours. I don't think you'd have to give 611 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: up a bounty. You'd probably have to give up a 612 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: couple of seconds. I don't know what it would be, 613 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: but if I'm only moving up four spots, I think 614 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: Bryce Young's the most talented. I think Richardson from Florida 615 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: is the most tantalizing. I think Will Levis feels like 616 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: there's a ceiling, but I like his talent and I'm 617 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: not sold on CJ. Stroud. I think he's as good 618 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: as the team he inherits. I do think Bryce Young 619 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: has special qualities. I think his ability to see the 620 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: field is better than justin field right now. I think 621 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 1: he sees the field. I saw him playing high school. 622 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: I watched ten fifteen games in college. I think Bryce 623 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: Young's sort of accuracy, awareness and ability to see the 624 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: entire field. I think it's really unique. He's just tiny, 625 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: so I can see. I don't think Houston would move 626 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: up because I don't I could see the Colts on 627 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: draft Day making a move. I really could. They're not 628 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: going to play their hand early, but I could see 629 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: on draft day Chicago getting because by the way, if 630 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: Chicago moves down to the fourth or fifth pick, they 631 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,720 Speaker 1: can still get to rush end, which they need. And 632 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: as we know with these gms, it's always an exercise 633 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: of survival. So I get it. Like if you draft 634 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, if you're Ryan Poles the Chicago Bears, you're 635 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: resetting the rookie contract, right, You have a quarterback on 636 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: a rookie deal. Every team wants that. But you're on 637 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: the clock as at GM. Now your fate is tied 638 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: to this guy. Usually, where if you go go with 639 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: Justin Fields for another year, maybe trade down, you get 640 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of picks. You keep it. If it doesn't 641 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: work out, if he falls flat on his face, then 642 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: you got a shot the next year. You kind of 643 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: buy yourself a little bit more time to say, well, 644 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: that wasn't our guy, but we're still going to find 645 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: our guy, and we have all this other stuff that's 646 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: going really really well. Look at Joe Douglas with the 647 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: New York Jets. They've done a lot of other stuff 648 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: well around on the quarterback position, but they haven't out quarterback. 649 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: But they're still there. So I think that he's good 650 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: enough to where you can talk yourself into him being 651 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: the guy and him having a future. I'd be surprised 652 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: if the Bears took a quarterback. I think they're going 653 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: to entertain offers and if there's if they had the stampath, 654 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: they take somebody else. Yeah. Bryce Young's interesting. He's smaller. 655 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 1: He's played in California and the South, so he's never 656 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: played in cold, windy weather. And there's always been a 657 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: feeling that in these Pittsburgh's, Baltimore, Chicago's now Minnesota obviously 658 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: plays indoors, but Farvan Rodgers both had strong arms. There's 659 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: always been a feeling up north. Flacco had a big arm. 660 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: Burrows certainly got a good enough arm that you you know, 661 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: it never made sense it. Bryce Young may not make 662 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: physical sense now in indian a dome or Houston, he does. 663 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't draft. They're just certain guys that 664 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: are like Teddy Bridgewater would never be a guy I 665 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: draft a Northern team. Put him in New Orleans, put 666 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: him in Miami. That sounds crazy. But certain guys don't 667 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: have the big arm Justin Fields does. But even Justin 668 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: Fields remarked this week I saw a quote He's like, 669 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: I hope we get a dome in Chicago. I mean, 670 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: he's a Georgia kid. He's like, I would love to 671 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: play a dome. Now. He played at Ohio State, obviously, 672 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: but the NFL season's much longer. You know, you play 673 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: in Chicago, those last four games at home. It's it's wendy, 674 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: it's rough. You're right on, You're not far from the lake. 675 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: You know. I've been around that stadium. I've jogged around it. 676 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: I've been around it ten times. So Bryce Young is 677 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: not the physical athlete. I don't think he has quite 678 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: the arm strength of Justin Field. So for that reason, 679 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: I could see them saying we're gonna give it one 680 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: more year. All right. Tied down his newsletter sign up 681 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: golongtd dot com. 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