1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: you and Senator it has not been a great day 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: for the Biden family on multiple fronts. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 3: Well, that's putting it mildly. Number one, we've seen the 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: evidence of Joe Biden's personal corruption continue to grow. James Biden, 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 3: it's now come out. It's not just Hunter, it's the 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: entire Biden family that has a business of selling favors, 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: selling access to Joe Biden to the tune of millions 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: of dollars. And James Biden was on Capitol Hill, was 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: testifying and contradicted himself, and it is getting worse and 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: worse and worse for the corruption of the Biden family. 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: Beyond that, we're also seeing the media turning on him. 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: I got to say Rolling Stone has abandoned Joe Biden. 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Holy crap. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: If you're a Democrat and you've lost Rolling Stone, what 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: is next? And I'm going to say, finally, as the 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: entire higher Biden edifice collapses in flames, the corporate media 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: is an abject state of panic. And so they fired 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: Catherine Herridge, the lone reporter at all of CBS who 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 3: actually reported on anything happening in America. They fired her, 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 3: and then the news broke this week that CBS has 23 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: gone and seized her files. They've said, we want to 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: see every damn confidential informant you talk to, we want 25 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: to see every source. We want control of all of it. 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: And I got to say, even lefty journalists are saying, 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: what is going on when CNN is doing this, it's 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: a big week. 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're running into all that. 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: I also want you to know about a way that 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: you can get involved and you can help the people 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: that are suffering right now in Israel. 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: We all know. 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: About the atrocies that were committed by Hamas on October 35 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: the seventh. 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This story when it broke was 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: one where I kind of laughed. James Biden lies just 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 2: like Joe Biden does. James Biden now had to tell 61 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: the truth, contradicting himself during testimony on his brother, who 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: just happens to be the President's involvement with the family 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 2: business dealings, which means virtually every Biden that's ever spoken 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: publicly about the Biden family businesses lied to the American people, 65 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: saying Joe Biden had nothing to do with it, and 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: we now know he was the entire business and his 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: brother is now admitting it. 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 3: Well, it's a sad pattern. It's one we're seeing over 69 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: and over again. And to step back a second to 70 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: set the stage. So this past week, Politico broke a 71 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: major story. The story was entitled, Biden's brother used his 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: name to promote a hospital chain, then it collapsed. This 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: was a bombshell story. And so let me read a 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: portion from the story because it's important. 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: Quote. 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: The investigation, based on public records, court filings, dozens of interviews, 77 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: and hundreds of exclusively obtained internal documents, reveals that Joe 78 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: Biden's role in Americ Corps was larger than previously reported. 79 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: In some eternal documents and investor materials, his name is 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: included among its top handful of leaders. That's Joe Biden, 81 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: by the way. He also helped the company seal regulatory 82 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: approval to acquire the Pennsylvania Hospital and personally fired Americ 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: chief financial officer, according to the emails obtained by Politico. 84 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 3: The investigation also reveals that Joe Biden's name and inner 85 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: circle were more involved with the company than has been understood. 86 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: In addition to the accounts provided by former executives, investor 87 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: materials described Jim Biden as an advisor to his older brother, 88 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: and on top of Joe Biden's own previously reported encounter 89 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: with the firm CEO, at least three of Joe Biden's 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: relatives did work with AmeriCorps. They include Jim Biden's wife Sarah, 91 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: his son Jamie. The President's son Hunter Biden also met 92 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: with its CEO and his personal doctor. The current White 93 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: House physician Kevin O'Connor, joined meeting with Jim Biden and 94 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: the president of a hospital being acquired by AmeriCorps. According 95 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: to a former executive and emails obtained by Politico. 96 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot. 97 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: And if you think about just all of that in 98 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: the context of the Biden crime family, at least they're 99 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: consistent now where they were willing to walk into basically 100 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: any room with any person at any time, where if 101 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: they had cash, it didn't matter. If they were enemies 102 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: of America, it didn't matter. It matter if they're Russian 103 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: oligarch's Romainian Oligarch's Ukrainian oligarks it didn't matter if they 104 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: were doing business directly with the Chinese Communist government and 105 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: people that were connected to the spying agency of the 106 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party. 107 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: The Bidens were willing. 108 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: To take a check to sell access to the United 109 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: States of America. And he has now made it clear, 110 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Yes that was the business. Sure you got us, But 111 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: is there going to be any accountability? That's the big question. 112 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: Everybody wants to. 113 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: Know the entire Biden family, their source of financial support, 114 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 3: their business was selling. The big guy was selling Joe Biden. 115 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: Here's also from that Politico story quote. One person on 116 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: the receiving end of Jim Biden's healthcare pitch recalled a 117 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: phone call in which Jim Biden said he was sitting 118 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: in a car next to his brother Joe. Joe Biden 119 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: has said that he has never discussed business with his brother. 120 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: Now at this point, there's a parallel. Do you remember 121 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: the text that Hunter Biden sent to the Chinese Communist 122 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: executive where he said, I'm sitting next to my father. 123 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: This is a pattern now that apparently the entire Biden family. 124 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 3: It's a really lucrative business to be sitting next to 125 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: Daddy Joe, and you sit next to Daddy Joe and 126 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: you shake people down for cash, and you say, right 127 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: next to me is Joe Biden. And if you don't 128 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: give me millions of dollars right now, Joe is going 129 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: to come after you. And the consistency of this story 130 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: that it's not just Remember, look, what is the White 131 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 3: House's main defense. Their main defense is, you know, Hunter 132 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: is a sad soul. He's troubled by substance abuse. Look, 133 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: the guy's a crackhead. That's not our fault, that's his problem, 134 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: but just blame it on him. Well, it turns out 135 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: it's not just Hunter. As far as we know. Joe's 136 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: brother Jim is not a crackhead. He just is in 137 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: the same damn business. And by the way, in the 138 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: business with other family members of it. The business is 139 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: selling Joe Biden. And in this case, the hospital that 140 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: they acquired in Pennsylvania was a hospital that focused in 141 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,599 Speaker 3: rural Pennsylvania providing healthcare that was needed by Americans in 142 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: real trouble. They acquired it and then they went broke, 143 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: They went out of business. They left their patients high 144 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: and dry. But you know, who did great on this. 145 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: You know who made a whole bunch of money. That 146 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: would be Joe Biden and every damn member of his family. 147 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: Well, let's go back to the also the fact that 148 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: this company which they were working for, AMERICRPS, allegedly defrauded Medicare. 149 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this claim comes, as you mentioned, the House 150 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Oversight committe Chairman James Comer. He's a former bank board member. 151 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: We've had him on this show now, I think four episodes. 152 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: He found in October that two hundred thousand dollars check 153 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: from AmeriCorps, which allegedly defrauded Medicare, landed in Joe Biden's 154 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: bank account via James Biden. So this is direct linkage 155 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: of the money on top of the fact that that's 156 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: not even the biggest part of the story of the 157 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: two undred thousand. It's the fact that this is a 158 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: company that was allegedly defrauding Medicare. 159 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Here, don't you normally go to jail if you do that? 160 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. 161 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: I mean, Democrats are obsessed with fraud right now, right 162 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: that's their whole thing. They're obsessed with fraud, even if 163 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: it's not even there. Like we saw with Donald Trump 164 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: in New York. But this is actual fraud, actual payments, 165 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: and actual defrauding of medicare. 166 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: Listen, defrauding medicare, that means you're defrauding the American people. 167 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: You're also defrauding your patients. And that is the Biden 168 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: family's emma. That that is their approach. And this Politico story, 169 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: it is number one interesting. We talked about the last podcast. 170 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: We're going to talk more in this podcast about how 171 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: the media, the corporate media, is turning on Joe Biden. 172 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: The fact that they publish this story. Holy cow. A 173 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: year ago, they would not have published this. Politico would 174 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: have said, nope, no story here, We're not reporting this. 175 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: Leave this to Breitbart. We the esteemed members of the 176 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: fourth estate at Politico will not write this. Well, well, 177 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: suddenly they've decided, uh uh, Joe Biden's a liability. Let's 178 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: get rid of him. But you know what's interesting. This 179 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: story then segues into what happened this week. So this week, 180 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 3: GOP lawmakers who said James Biden contradicted himself during testimony 181 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: about his brother, Joe Biden's supposed business dealings with his family. 182 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: And here's what Fox News reported quote. The president's brother 183 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: initially said he was not part of a deal with 184 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: his nephew Hunter Biden and business associates Rob Walker, Tony Bobolinski, 185 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: and James Gilliar, according to a source familiar with the interview, 186 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: but when presented with an agreement with his signature on it, Oh, oh, 187 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 3: that's a problem, Biden changed his story, saying he didn't 188 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: recall signing the agreement. The source said, now understand James 189 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: Biden's like, no, no, no, not in business with them. 190 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: I don't know who's Hunter. What do you mean my nephew. 191 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: Don't know the guy you mean the guy that's that's 192 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 3: naked and smoking crack and running around with all the prostitutes. No, 193 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: never heard of that guy, the one on Air Force two, 194 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: Air Force one. No idea who that guy is. And 195 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: then he's like, uh, here's the agreement you signed. And 196 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: he's like, uh, I don't know what you're talking about. Look, 197 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners are young enough. You may 198 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: not remember Hogan's Heroes. I grew up with my dad 199 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: watching Hogan's Heroes as a kid. And Hogan's Heroes there 200 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: was a character Sergeant Schultz, big fat guy German guy, 201 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: and and when when, when Hogan was like doing all 202 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 3: sorts of shenanigans, Sergeant Schultz would say, I see nothing, 203 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: I hear nothing. Well, that right now is James Biden's defense. 204 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 3: I hear nothing well. I gotta say the rest of 205 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: us we see something. 206 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: It's big. And now the media is turning on him. 207 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: We've talked about this. I just came back from Seapack 208 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: in DC and it was a very clear topic of 209 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: conversation and a real concern of many that were there, 210 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: saying what happens next when it comes to Joe Biden? 211 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: Will he actually be who we're running against come November? 212 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: And the media seems to be turning on Joe Biden. 213 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: And it's not just like they're testing out the waters now, 214 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: it's like they've gotten their orders and the Democratic establishment. 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Go to FREEDOMGOLDUSA dot com slash verdict. 246 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: That's Freedom goold USA. 247 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: Dot com slash verdict and talk to them to see 248 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: if you qualify for up to ten thousand dollars in 249 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: free silver. 250 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: One eight hundred and sixty five five eight eight four three. 251 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: Senater, I think the reason why the media has flipped 252 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: on Joe Biden is because this is an orchestrated effort. 253 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: It's not like one media outlet decided to go rogue here. 254 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: They all started on the same day. They all are 255 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: putting out stories at the same time. They're all trying 256 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: to basically say, Okay, maybe we got to get rid 257 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: of them rolling stones. For goodness, Sakes writes this that 258 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: has never happened before to write an article like this 259 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: about a Democrat, much less a sitting president in the 260 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: Democratic Party. 261 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 3: Well, listen, that's right. And we talked about in Wednesday's 262 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: podcast how the media is turning on Joe Biden, how 263 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: the Washington Post, how the New York Times is turning 264 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: on Joe Biden. And you're right, there is an amazing thing. 265 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll discover at some point there's some secret list 266 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: server or text message or signal app that they send 267 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: each other. There like, okay, now we're turning on them. 268 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, I just know the results that they 269 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: all do it simultaneously, and so look as bad as 270 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: the New York Times is, as bad as the Washington 271 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: Post is. When you think of lest wing mouthpieces, it's 272 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: hard to find one that is more so than Rolling Stone. 273 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: And here's an article from Rolling Stone this week. I 274 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 3: want to read you the title over it, young Black 275 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: and Done with Biden, the issues that could decide the 276 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: taking a ride through Detroit with the young black Democratic 277 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: voters who helped Biden get into office in twenty twenty 278 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: and aren't so sure about doing it again. 279 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: That's not a story that's ever written by the mainstream media, 280 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: much less like hardcore lefties. And that would be Rolling 281 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: Stones magazine. And they didn't just this didn't just happen, 282 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: by the way, in a week. They clearly knew what 283 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: they were going to write. They knew this was a 284 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: story that probably was worth writing, and they just decided 285 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: to look the other way for the last three years. Now, 286 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're going to write it like 287 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: the timing of this is laughable. 288 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right, and let me read you the 289 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: opening of this article. Troy, Michigan is quintessential suburbia, strip malls, 290 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 3: banks with drive throughs and jewelry stores through just thirty 291 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: minutes outside of Detroit, feels a world away from the 292 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: motor city with its blocks of boarded up houses and 293 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: abandoned stores. The disparate environments speak to the systematic inequality 294 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: that brought me here to talk politics and the bind 295 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden has gotten himself into. Inside Fresh and 296 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 3: Pressed Juice, a brightly lit juice bar and cafe with 297 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 3: a vibrant green ceiling, I talk with the impeccably dressed 298 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: shop owner, Kiara Smith and her husband, wrapper Icewear Vezzo, 299 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: who has brave the snow in his designer wool jacket 300 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: over smoothies. Vezzo takes off like a rocket when I 301 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: ask what issues he'd like to see presidential candidate's address 302 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 3: in the lead up to November. Vezzo says that over 303 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: the past several years he's been paying attention to electoral 304 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: politics more than ever. He thinks Biden's deceitful and that 305 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: likely Republican candidate Donald Trump is a blabbermouth Independent candidate 306 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 3: Robert F. Kennedy is his preference over both men. He 307 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: takes some local pride in Michigan being a battleground state 308 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: because he said voters are actually paying attention. Now understand, 309 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: this is Rolling Stone saying Black Democrats in Detroit, Michigan 310 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: are not going to vote for Joe Biden. That's a 311 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: big deal. 312 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 2: It's not just that, it's also that all of the 313 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: data is pointing to the disaster, which is the Biden administration, 314 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: specifically on the economy, and you compare that to what 315 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump did when he was in office. The lowest 316 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 2: unemployment ry in the history of African Americans happened under 317 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and Joe Biden came in said I'm going 318 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: to fix everything in the African American community. Look at 319 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: what's happened since Biden took office. As the latest number, 320 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: overall prices are up seventeen point nine percent. Food prices 321 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: are up twenty one percent, rent is up nineteen point 322 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: four percent. Electricity is up twenty eight point six percent. 323 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: That's Biden nomics, and this White House says, oh no, no, 324 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: it's working it's working. 325 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: We promise you it's working. 326 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: And I think that's part of the reason why I 327 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: center that the African American community is turning against him, 328 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: as they're saying, you have ruined what we had under 329 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Donald Trump and now we have a massive crime wave 330 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: on top of everything else I just mentioned. 331 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: Well, if you remember the political party in New York 332 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 3: previously that was called the rent is too damn high. Yeah, well, 333 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 3: I got to say the rent is too damn high. 334 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: That is a message that is resonating in a whole 335 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: lot of cities right now. And Joe Biden he owns it. 336 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: You think your rent is too damn high? That would 337 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: be Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Who brought that to you. 338 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 3: And that's a real problem. That's a real problem for 339 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: the voters. The Democrats need to turn out. If they're 340 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: sitting there saying the rent is two damn high, they're 341 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: in trouble. And it's why. Look, this podcast six months 342 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: ago broke national media when we said that, I believe 343 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: there was a very real risk the Democrats were going 344 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: to jettison Joe Biden and replace him with Michelle Obama. 345 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: It's been interesting the last two weeks suddenly seeing the 346 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 3: rest of the press say, holy crap, there's a very 347 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: real chance they jennison Joe Biden and replace him with 348 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: Michelle Obama. And the fact that the media is turning 349 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: on him day and night is increasing the chances every day. 350 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: There's also another shocking story, and I want to make 351 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: sure we spend some time on this. Many people may 352 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 2: know the name Katherine Herrid. She is a phenomenal reporter. 353 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 2: She was at Fox for a long time. She then 354 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: moved to CBS News. She did incredible reporting on tough 355 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: issues and stories, including what's been happening with the Biden 356 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: crime family. She was let go, slash fired, whatever you 357 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: want to call it, laid off with some other people 358 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: as CBS is having financial issues and downsizing. But it 359 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: was shocking that she was let go in that because 360 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: she's basically that one of their best and only tough 361 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: investigative reporters, certainly in Washington, d C. Now we have 362 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: found out that CBS News went full communists after quote 363 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 2: seizing her journalistic files. That is not what's supposed to 364 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: happen in America in journalism. And yet now we're finding 365 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: out not only they get rid of her. But the 366 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: question is what was she what did she what was 367 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: she about to report on? I would say this enter, 368 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: I know you love her reporting. I think we should 369 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 2: try to get her on Verdict because I would love 370 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: to hear what she has to say about everything she 371 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: uncovered that maybe she hasn't been able to tell us yet. 372 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 3: So I agree with you that we should have Catherine 373 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: Herridge as a guest on Verdict. We're going to try 374 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: to make that happen. And I will say, look, in 375 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: many ways, Catherine Herridge is a unicorn because the corporate 376 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 3: media is so utterly corrupt that they do not report 377 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 3: on news that is inconvenient to the regime. And Catherine 378 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: Harridge was a rebel in that she actually reported on 379 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: things the Biden White House didn't like, and so CBS 380 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: was engaged in layoffs. And I get Look, the media 381 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: are a bunch of dishonest, lying hacks. I understand that 382 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: they're firing people because people don't want to purchase their 383 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: goods anymore because it is useless. They're no longer journalists, 384 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: they're liars. That being said, if you're off people, somebody 385 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: and some corporate suit in a corner office made a decision, 386 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: who do we want to lay off. Let's lay off 387 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: the person who actually is criticizing the White House, and 388 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: so Catherine the heritage they laid off. That was shocking 389 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: in and of itself because she is such a unicorn. 390 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: But then the news broke this week that then not 391 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: only do they layer off, but CBS officials took the 392 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: unusual step of seizing her files, her computers, her records, 393 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 3: including her information on privileged sources. And and that I've 394 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 3: got to say, so. 395 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: Explain people privileged sources so people understand why that's such 396 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: a shocking, in my opinion, abuse of power by CBS. 397 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, listen, reporters have sources that give information and under 398 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: promises of confidentiality, and those promises or that their name 399 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: will be held secret, they will not be outed. And 400 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: that is right at the heart the essence of journalism, 401 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: of free press. Well, CBS, the corporate suits have said, 402 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: we want to know who your sources are. And the 403 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: problem is that nobody rational with their head not inserted 404 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 3: in a bodily orifice, believes that the corporate suits want 405 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 3: that for any reason other than bad purposes. Look, I'm 406 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: going to read from an article in The Hill. So 407 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: in the Hill, this is something written by Jonathan Turley, 408 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: who has been really terrific on a lot of these issues. 409 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: But here's what he but he wrote, quote, I've spoken 410 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: confidentially with current and former CBS employees who have stated 411 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 3: that they could not recall the company ever taking such 412 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: a step before. One former CBS journalist said that many 413 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: employees quote are confused why Herridge was laid off. As 414 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: one of the correspondents who broke news regularly and did 415 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: a lot of original reporting, this has led to concerns 416 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 3: about the source of the pressure. He added that he 417 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: has never seen a seizure of records from a departing 418 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: journalist and that the move has sent a chilling signal 419 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: to the ranks of CBS and that is deeply, deeply disturbing. 420 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: By the way, there have been reports that when Catherine 421 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 3: Herridge published stories that were critical of the Biden White House, 422 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 3: that CBS executives pushed back, including someone CBS News president 423 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: ingrid Cyprianne Matthews, who I don't know, but good god, 424 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: her name sounds like something out of a science fiction 425 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: movie about some overlord in the star chamber who wants 426 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: to silence, all dissent ingrid Cyprian Matthews. Let's fire the 427 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: reporter that dares report anything of substance because we are propagandists. 428 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: And I got to say, there was a time when 429 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: CBS actually had a reputation as being real journalists. How 430 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: many Walter Cronkite is rolling over in his grave at 431 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 3: what has happened to CBS today. 432 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: I want to just talk about the quality of Catherine's 433 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: reporting for a moment. There are reporters that you don't 434 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: talk to. There's reporters that I don't talk to. You 435 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 2: see them, you roll their eyes, You deal with it 436 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 2: a lot more than I do. There's certain reporters on 437 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: Capitol Hill You're like, really, you again, give me a 438 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: break because you know they're hacks. When when you saw 439 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,479 Speaker 2: Katherine and now there's like there seemed to be mutual 440 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: respect from both sides the owl because she wasn't partisan, 441 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 2: she just was a truth teller and investigative journalism. It's 442 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: something that we've lost in this country and that's what, 443 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: ultimately I think made her lose her job at CBS. 444 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: Look sadly, what Catherine Herridge does used to be the 445 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: norm and journalism. Yeah, you would have journalists who would 446 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: actually investigate stories, they would follow the facts, they would 447 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: report on the substance. That used to be how the 448 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: entire enterprise worked. Now and I really think this is 449 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: post Trump. Trump broke the corporate media. They hate him 450 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: so much that they've abandoned any effort at truth telling, 451 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: any effort at reporting facts, any effort at being even handed, 452 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: eddy effort reporting both sides. Instead, Look, if you go 453 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: back a decade ago, if you go back to twenty fourteen, 454 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, you would have people at CBS, You'd have 455 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 3: people at CNNMSNBC, even MSNBC that would claim they're trying 456 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: to be journalists and report both sides. What has changed 457 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: is Trump convinced a lot of the so called journalists 458 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 3: and all of the corporate brass that reporting fairly was 459 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: no longer acceptable, that Trump was the devil, and because 460 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: he was the devil, their mission was no longer present 461 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: both sides. Their mission, and this is the way they 462 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 3: framed it, was to save democracy. And what they mean 463 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: by save democracy is elect left wing democrats in every 464 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: election no matter what, which means never ever ever report 465 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: on anything harmful to left wing Democrats and only be 466 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: propagandists for the left wing of the party. Now listen, 467 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: I don't like the New York Times. I think they're 468 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of freaking communists. I don't particularly like the 469 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 3: Washington Post. I don't like much of the media. But bizarrely, Ben, 470 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 3: I think they're valuable. How many years were you an 471 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 3: employee of CNN? 472 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: Seven years? In hell is how long I was there 473 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: fighting the good fight. 474 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: Okay, but compare CNN all right, you're a former employee. 475 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: You were an employee there from win to win. 476 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: Gosh, it was I mean, go back what two years 477 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: ago and then and then add seven on to there. 478 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: So in the middle of it, right before Trump was elected, 479 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: when it wasn't that bad. 480 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: I was there for I guess about two years. 481 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: Before the sixteen election when Trump was elected and then 482 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: the will came off. 483 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: So give your perspective, because you were a paid employee 484 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: of CNN. Give your perspective of CNN before twenty sixteen, 485 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: in the Trump election and after, because look, what I'm 486 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: describing is real, but you experienced it from the inside. 487 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I first got hired, it was funny. When 488 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: I got hired by CNN. The call came in and 489 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: they said, look, we want real and genuine conservatives on 490 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: the air. 491 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: I got hired. 492 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 2: I think it was on the same day with New 493 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: Gingrich and they said, we want to have a robust debate, 494 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: and it was and that's exactly what it started out as. 495 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: And even when they were covering Donald Trump in sixteen, 496 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: remember CNN would go wall to wall with him campaign 497 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 2: event after campaign event, and I remember, well, yeah, it 498 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: was huge for their ratings. You remember, you were running 499 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: against him. It's like CNN was giving it was almost 500 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: like the Trump News Network during the primary. And then 501 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: once he got the nomination, and then once he actually 502 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: looked like he might have a chance of winning, they 503 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: started to turn a little bit. 504 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't intil the night. 505 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: And I was at CNN that night all night long 506 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: in election night, and you could see the shock and 507 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 2: the anger because everyone there from the highest up. 508 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: People they assumed tilly. 509 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Assumed Hillary was gonna win. 510 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: So this was basically just great TV drama until he won. 511 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: And then when he won, they basically and once he 512 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 2: started saying they were fake news, and he was in 513 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: there going after them as the president and going after 514 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: them in the White House Press Briefing Room and allowing 515 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: Sara Huckabee, Sanders and others to fight back. They couldn't 516 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: take it out on Trump enough, so they started taking 517 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: it out on the commentators that were left. I was 518 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: one of the last, I think real concertis left at CNN. 519 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: I actually begged them to not re sign me at 520 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 2: the end. They had a right to sign and right 521 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: to match, and they did it anyway, And in my 522 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: last year they signed me to silence me. 523 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever talked about this publicly. 524 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 2: Actually, in my last year I asked them not to 525 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: and they said, no, we're going to resign you. And 526 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: I had another offer and they were gonna match, and 527 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 2: and that was it. I can say this and you'll laugh. 528 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: I will go down in history as being the highest 529 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: paid CNN contributor in history if you count it per appearance, 530 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: because in the last year of my contract, when they 531 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 2: extended it, they signed me to bench me just to 532 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: say they had a pro Trump commentator on the payroll. 533 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 2: And I did a total of two appearances in twelve 534 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 2: months under contract. Yes, lot of appearances. Yes, I've never 535 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 2: really talked about this publicly. So they resigned me, and 536 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: I said, please don't and they did it anyway, and 537 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: they didn't have me on for like three and a 538 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: half four months. 539 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: All right, Ben, I don't want to out your personal finances, 540 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: but I kind of do. How much to see Ann 541 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 3: pay someone. I mean, look, if you don't want to 542 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: answer that, don't answer that. But I'm kind of curious. 543 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it all depends on if you're hosting, what your 544 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: past resume was, how long you been there, and so 545 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: I made I mean low six figures when I was 546 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: there my first Yeah, clus I think it's what it was. 547 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: And you did two appearances in a year, in a year, 548 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 3: in a year, they paid you fifty freaking thousand dollars 549 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: per appearance. 550 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: A little more than that. 551 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: That's why I said, I go down in history, is 552 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: the highest paid CNN contributor in history per appearance. But 553 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: they benched me, and the Hollywood Reporter noticed that there 554 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 2: was like two or three of us that were pro Trump, 555 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: and we vanished from the screen. Because a normal week 556 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: when I was there in the first you know, six years, 557 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 2: I would probably average four to six appearances a week 558 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: some weeks to be eleven, twelve, thirteen during the political campaigns. 559 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: I did so many appearances in my first contract. 560 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 3: That I'm doing some quick math, let's say five appearances 561 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: a week fifty two weeks. That's over two hundred and 562 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 3: fifty appearances a year. That yeah, that's what you used 563 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 3: to be. And you went from two hundred and fifty 564 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: appearances a year to. 565 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: Two to two in my last year two and it 566 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 2: was only I did one appearance where they tried to 567 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: I think it was actually to try to get rid 568 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: of me. They had me come on to defend Rush Limball, 569 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: and they try to turn me into a racist bigot 570 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 2: that was defending Rush Limball, that was anti gay, and 571 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 2: I didn't take the bait. And you could see I 572 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 2: was very angry when I was on TV because I 573 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: knew what they were trying to do and it didn't work, 574 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: and I didn't take the bait, and I fought back. 575 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: And then there was a bunch of articles from you know, 576 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: scumbags and me that were trying to apply that I 577 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 2: said something I didn't say. And then Hollywood Reporter noticed 578 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: that the pro Trump sarrogates in essence, these conservatives at 579 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: CNN had vanished from the air, and they wrote an article. 580 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: So I say this seriously, and look, I don't watch CNN. 581 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: So but I can't recall a single pro Trump surge 582 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 3: in years they've had. I can tell you I used 583 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: to do CNN. I didn't do it five times a 584 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: week because they paid me zero and in my entire 585 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 3: life have been paid zero by CNN, and you know, 586 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: I feel it was a fair trade. But I used 587 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: to do CNN once a week consistently. I haven't done 588 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 3: them in years, years because they're not interested in a 589 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: fair discussion. They are propagandas, yes, and they're not even 590 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: Democrat propagandists. They are the left wing of the Democrat Party. 591 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 3: And it's not just CNN. Why did CBS sees Catherine 592 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: Herriage's confidential source notes that is extremely unusual, but it 593 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 3: is a manifestation of the complete corruption of the corporate. 594 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: Media, no doubt about it. This is really fun. I 595 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 2: hope everybody enjoyed it. 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