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Speaker 1: You're looking good, Josh, appreciate you, bro. Nicole Dottie says,

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good episode. We are going

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, did Chid and d my tires

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Speaker 1: and so long line of my fool of husband down

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Speaker 1: we do what we say by these behaviors? I really

637
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: think all of us spending more time really understanding what's

638
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: inside of us, what are we fashioned to do? And

639
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: trust it? You know, if it, if you feel that,

640
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, God is pushing you to be a rapper

641
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: in the secular world, which there are many, you know, Christian,

642
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: very deep strong believers that are in that there is

643
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: a reason and a lot of times we want to

644
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: like make sense of it, of like, well, why is

645
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: Granger doing this and this guy's doing this. It's like

646
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: some things we don't get to know. We have to

647
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: just trust that God is moving in them the same

648
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: way he's moving in us. We're all human trying to

649
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: figure it out, trying to grow closer to Him. And

650
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: the only thing that this person, you and I can

651
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: do is just be still and think about ourselves. What

652
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: is that inside of us? How is the word in

653
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: our hearts? And then how does it come out based

654
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: on the sphere that he's put us in, sphere of

655
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: influence that he's put us in, and the skills that

656
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: he's fashioned us to do. So good man, This is

657
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: why I called Bernie when I need some advice stuff

658
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, I think that's awesome, Daniel. And we

659
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: really focused on your subject line, your faith versus your career.

660
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: And I feel like if you were listening to stuff

661
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: with your kids and you're listening to my music and

662
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: then you think of all the people that didn't have

663
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: any kind of faith and they accidentally stumbled across something

664
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: that meant something to him because they were listening to

665
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: all the other artists. And my music, by no means

666
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: is holy. But you could easily listen to Christian music

667
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: and then find out that guy was cheating on his

668
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: wife and you go, wow, see yeah, I knew it. Yep,

669
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: it's just all phony, you know, So you could you

670
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: could throw that in any category. It doesn't matter. We're

671
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: all human. And I mean, I think stripping away those

672
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: those labels, like Bernie said, is it's so important. That's

673
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: such a great way to put it. I think that

674
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: God can use Like just the other day, man, like

675
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: I was having one of those days at work. I

676
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: needed to go for a walk. I needed to just

677
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: like kind of get out, and I put my headphones

678
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: in and I put on country things. I don't you know,

679
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why, Like I just went to that

680
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: song because there's there's something in the melody, there's something

681
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: in the the lyrics, there's something that drew me to

682
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: a place of like just exhale, and it was kind

683
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: of what I needed. So what if that wasn't there.

684
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think that again, I think that our

685
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: minds just are so small compared to like the ways

686
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 1: that God can use all of these efforts. That we're

687
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: just trying to use the gifts that we have and

688
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: put them out there. And the hope is is that

689
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: if you are a believer, that you're taking that through

690
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: the filter of His word your life, the propositional truth,

691
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: the experiential truth, like the theeves are lining up, and

692
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 1: then you just stay with it. Let it go. Man.

693
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: There has to be someone out there that's been struggling

694
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 1: with that with their own career. Those are great words, Burns,

695
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: and thank you for asking that, Daniel. That's awesome. Let

696
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: me switch gears. This is a total switch and it says,

697
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: Hey Grage, this is Becca from Bismarck, North Dakota. My

698
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: whole family is big fans. My brother Bobby from Dismarck

699
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: has been a lot of your concerts and done a

700
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: lot of meat and greets. My question for you is this,

701
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: My husband of two years recently discovered he had as

702
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: a sex addiction. Over those two years, there have been

703
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: two major incidents of infidelity where other people have contacted

704
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: me telling me what my husband has said to them.

705
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: Every time I try to confront my husband, he lies

706
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: until he knows he's been caught. Then he says this

707
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: is his last time. He's going to do it. And

708
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: just like any other type of addiction, there's a risk

709
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: of relapsing. I'm twenty six years old and wanting to

710
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: start a family soon. If I stay with him through

711
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: this addiction, I will have to give up having a

712
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: family for a few years until we are both in

713
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: a good place. If I walk away from this marriage,

714
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: I will lose many more things than just having children

715
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: for a few years. I need some guidance. I need

716
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: some perspective on this topic. I love this man, but

717
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: when is enough enough? Man? First, that is just really

718
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: heavy to hear. Sorry, you're going through that, man, It's

719
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: really really sad something like that. I mean, I think

720
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: I can speak for Granger and I both just to say, like,

721
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have an answer to any

722
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: of these questions, and anything that we say is this

723
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: is based on like what we know and have experienced

724
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: to this date, and sometimes those things change as we evolve,

725
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: and so well, we're gonna think here for a second,

726
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: give it our best shot and just try to try

727
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: to guide you in the right path. Look at it

728
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: as if you're calling a friend or inviting a friend

729
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: over and we're sitting in your living room and we're

730
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: just chatting, and when we leave, you do what you want. Yeah, yeah,

731
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: for sure, it sounds like this may be above There

732
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: may need to be some professional help if he's admitted

733
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: to having an addiction. Just having you know, people in

734
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: you know, close to me that have been through you know,

735
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: different addictions, there's there's a place where our encouragement and

736
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: our in support of them just isn't the tools that

737
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: they need. They really need professional help which is out there.

738
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: And you know, alongside that, I think that there's there's

739
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: something to be said for community and living in community.

740
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you are obviously you didn't mention it,

741
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: but if you, if you are living in community with friends,

742
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: close friends that that you have and that he has,

743
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: just having his friends kind of speak in to his

744
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: life and you know, hold him accountable, bring him support,

745
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: encourage him to seek professional help. And then for you

746
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: just not feeling like you have to carry the burden

747
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: all by yourself. I really hope that you have of

748
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: you know, somebody in your corner that uh, you know,

749
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: that's encouraging you and and guiding you correctly. Yeah, yeah,

750
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm back on Yeah, I'm sorry. You're twenty six years old.

751
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: You want to start a family, which is normal. Everything

752
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: you're saying is I agree with and you and you're

753
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're you're kind of coming at this

754
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: the right way. You're You're definitely right and being majorly concerned.

755
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 1: You're definitely right in wanting to hold off on starting

756
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: having kids because right down, the last thing you want

757
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 1: to do is bring children into this, this turbulent environment.

758
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: And and I probably I don't know if I would

759
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: have gone a different direction until you ended it with

760
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: I love this man to death. But when when is

761
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: enough enough? If you hadn't said you love him to death,

762
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you know this, this could be a little easier. And

763
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: I also don't know about the ultimative that that you

764
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: have given him and what he knows about you, Like,

765
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: does he think that you're just someone that just you're

766
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: just along for the ride. You're gonna you're gonna you

767
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: love him, so you're gonna be there no matter what.

768
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean. The Bible does say that that you could

769
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: divorce him. You're you're in. You're in the perfect order

770
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: to say I'm out, I'm out. I definitely I admire

771
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: you for wanting to hold this together. I wish that

772
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: this man had the same desire and conviction as you

773
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 1: do to hold together at a marriage. And you're not perfect.

774
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've made mistakes, same as me. I'm sure

775
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: you've I'm sure you you've done your share. But nothing

776
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: that you've done warrants what has happened to you and

777
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: what he has done to you and the promises that

778
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: he's broken and regardless of addiction. You could talk about,

779
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: you said, just like many other types of addiction. You

780
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: could throw that out there. But at the same time,

781
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: it's this is about discipline and self control. He's not

782
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: hooked on meth. You know, he's not chemically addicted to cocaine.

783
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: It's different, right, I mean, it's different. I don't think

784
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: we could just throw it in go. Yeah, he's got it.

785
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: He has a problem. He's mentally addicted to sex. We

786
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: all are at some level, we're human beings, like you know,

787
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: we're like rabbits. At some level, we're like rabbits, and

788
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: we have to we have to control that. It's called discipline,

789
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: self control, you know. So you know if I was

790
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: with you, Beck, I would probably raise my voice and

791
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: get upset, like I'm starting to get worked up because

792
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: because it's just it's wrong what you're going through. I

793
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: would hold off. Bernie said the exact right thing at

794
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: the exact right time. We don't have an answer. I'm

795
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: not going to have I'm not going to say here's

796
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: what you do step one, step two. We don't have that.

797
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: I think seek professional help. It's going to cost money probably.

798
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I know that there's free counseling probably at your church,

799
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: but if you want something else, it's going to cost money.

800
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: I think that's a worthy investment to pay money for this.

801
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: And then you tell him, Hey, we're going to do this.

802
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: We're going to seek help from these different places from

803
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: We're going to get counsel in our friends that we trust,

804
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: in our family, We're going to get counseled at the church,

805
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: and then we're going to see a paid psychiatrist. And

806
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: you're going to go to these meetings with me. And

807
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: if you skip any meetings that could be detrimental if

808
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: you wig out in any way in the course of

809
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: this new plan to get better. Then we're gonna have

810
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: to call this marriage off. And I don't want to.

811
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: I love you to death. The last thing I want

812
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: to do is have a divorce against us in my

813
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: in my life. I don't want that. But but I

814
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: can't go on this way and he needs to say

815
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: There's only one thing he could say, and that's absolutely

816
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: tell me what to do, and I'll show up at

817
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: every meeting and I'll work on this. That's the only way. Yeah.

818
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: I think also, just knowing ahead of time that it's

819
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: going to be really messy the path forward there is hope.

820
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: I've actually seen marriages restored from this, but it's going

821
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: to be messy, and I would I would encourage you

822
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: to make sure you're taking care of yourself and you know,

823
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: really spending time in the stillness, in the quiet and

824
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: listening to that small voice that will guide us. That

825
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: you're surrounding yourself with people that can help you navigate

826
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: this because you don't go at it alone. That would

827
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: be my biggest advice. You guys, can't go at it

828
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: alone because others will be able to recognize if there

829
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: is a genuine change in his heart that's happening or

830
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: if it's not. And sometimes when we're in the moment,

831
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: we can be deceived and think, oh, yeah, he said

832
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: this and we're doing this. But I think just living

833
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: that thing out and communities is probably, yeah, probably the best.

834
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 1: So good beckuad. Thank you for being so extremely vulnerable

835
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: and even including your name in your town and bringing

836
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: this to us. This has to be top of mind

837
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: for you every day, and I just appreciate your trust

838
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: and bringing it to a podcast, and it also shows

839
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: your dedication to it. So that's the luck to you. Becca.

840
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: I think we could be Can we hit one more

841
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: on this segment? I'll switch gears again. I like to

842
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: switch gears. Yeah, I like the subject line is called

843
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 1: the Calling. Okay, okay, it says, hey Granger, I often

844
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: hear you and Amber, among many others throughout my life

845
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: speak of having a calling to do something through Christ.

846
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: I've belonged to a church since I was a little boy,

847
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: and even then people stated they were called by Christ

848
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: to do certain things. My question is, how do you

849
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: know when you're called to do something? And I'm not

850
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: even sure I've ever felt that I was called by

851
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: Christ to do anything. Maybe I have maybe I never

852
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: heard it or I misunderstood it. I am hoping you

853
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: could answer this question so that myself or someone who

854
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: wonders the same could listen and then follow through with

855
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: what they're called to do. I appreciate your doing your

856
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: podcast and opening up to your fans and listeners. Best wishes,

857
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: Sean from Pennsylvania. It's a great question. Great question, man,

858
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: this is hard. I didn't say it's gonna be easy Burns.

859
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: This is hard, man. I didn't say I didn't bring

860
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: in here to answer. Why did I start? Where did

861
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: you I know that? I mean, this is like people's

862
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: lives that I know they are, you know, really listening

863
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: deeply to this, not even the people that put in

864
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: the questions, but all your your fans and the people

865
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: that listen to this, and the weight of that with

866
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: questions that are just like Okay, yeah, I call it.

867
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not really sure. I love the question too, Sean, Yeah,

868
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: it's good. I don't know. Part of me thinks that

869
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: I don't really know if you know a calling until

870
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of it. I mean, here's I

871
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: can only speak from my life, and I feel like

872
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 1: a lot of time I have not seen it written

873
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: in the clouds, go do this, And it's like, Okay,

874
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this. An angel spoke to you

875
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: in your dreams, right, you know, I need to again

876
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm the biggest advocate of just stillness and listening,

877
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: quiet and solitude. And I don't know if it's a

878
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: calling as much as just this little nudge in one direction.

879
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: And I think that God's word gives us, hey, this

880
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: is what you do. This is your calling, you know,

881
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: to love your neighbor as yourself, to you know, to

882
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: give yourself up in all things. Like there's these and

883
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: I feel like if we're if that is as a believer,

884
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: that's our calling and we live and that's our motivation.

885
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: Then these career things and maybe this is tying back

886
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: to the other questions, like I think they just kind

887
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: of happen, at least for me. It's just I was

888
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: never intending to do what I'm doing now, and who

889
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: knows what I'm going to be doing five years from now.

890
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: I just feel like I've had kind of this core

891
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: belief of you know, you know, following God's word, being

892
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: still putting others first, loving my community, loving my church,

893
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: and things just kind of happen, and there's kind of

894
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: a nudge of like, Okay, can we do that. I

895
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: don't think we can do that, but I kind of

896
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: feel that nudge, And so maybe that's the calling that

897
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: he's talking about, that little nudge. And what he means

898
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: is too, is that we see other people having examples

899
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: of very specific written in the cloud stuff. My mom

900
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: does that. You know, my mom just has She is

901
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: so faithful. She just has big signs that just happened

902
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: to her. And I kind of get jealous. I'm like, well,

903
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: I wish I could have a sign. Yeah, you know,

904
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: I wish a bluebird would come out of the snow

905
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: and look at me through the window and you know whatever.

906
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: But man, this is what this is my challenge to you, Jean.

907
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: You wrote this out to me. How do you know

908
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: when you're called to do something? I'm not sure if

909
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: I've ever felt called. Maybe I have, and maybe I

910
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: didn't understand it. I would take that what you asked

911
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: me and go to God with it every day, and

912
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: you could be God knows your heart. You know, God

913
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: knows every thought. He knows your heart, So go to

914
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: him and just go hey God, Sean and Sean, maybe

915
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: you're not a man of prayer, or maybe you're wanting

916
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: to be more, or maybe you are a lot. I

917
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: don't know. But God, what are you calling me to do?

918
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: Are you calling me to be right here and be

919
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: in this today, in my career, in my life? Is

920
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: this what you need me to do? If it is,

921
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: continue to open those doors so that I could walk

922
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: through them and I feel confident that I'm flowing with you.

923
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: And if it's not, throw an obstacle out there, make

924
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: it more difficult, make me feel like I'm swimming upstream

925
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: and nothing makes sense and everything is a closed door,

926
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: and ask him that every day. God, have I missed it?

927
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: Are you giving it to me? That's what the guys

928
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: in the Old Testament did, That's what David would sit

929
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: there every day and just conversation, this fellowship with God.

930
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: Just God. I don't know. I'm confused. God knows you're confused.

931
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: He knows your thoughts, he knows your heart. God, did

932
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: I miss it? He knows, He knows all these answers.

933
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: And he's not going to boom from the clouds. He's not,

934
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: but he could. He could definitely make phone calls happen

935
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: and make illnesses happened or healed, or make I hate

936
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: to say it, but he could make a car accident

937
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: happen that gives you an injury that takes you into

938
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: another career. He can. But if you're aware of what's happening,

939
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: feel the flowel the feel the I like to think

940
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: of it as a stream, and you're Sometimes you feel

941
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: like in life you're just going with the stream, like man,

942
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: I'm just cruising, and sometimes it feels like you're swimming

943
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: up it and nothing makes sense and everything's difficult, and

944
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: every paddle will gets you back, you know, one step forward,

945
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: two steps back, And I would I would do the

946
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: same thing you asked me on this podcast and ask

947
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: God that and I would start my day with it.

948
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: I would think of it when I'm driving, and I

949
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: would end my day with it. If this is something

950
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: that's truly on your heart, God, what am I? What

951
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: are you calling me to do? Me, Sean from Pennsylvania,

952
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: What do you need me to do? And the answer

953
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: may be nothing right now, right, stay it put right?

954
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: It may it may be something very different than what

955
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: you're expecting. And again, I feel like our spiritual journeys

956
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: can be really counterculture. And so if we're if this

957
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: is your heart and you're really I mean, you're sending

958
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: emails to Granger, So obviously this is stirring in you.

959
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: God may not be saying, Hey, your calling is to

960
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: go build this wall. Yeah, but the calling maybe today,

961
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: go pick up one brick and put it over there,

962
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 1: and are we willing to be faithful to do that?

963
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying, like, I don't know

964
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: if you know what the calling is until you're halfway

965
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: up the wall. It's like God's building the wall. Yeah, right,

966
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: And I've been putting these bricks here. I'm not knowing

967
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: why for the last few years, and now I'm kind

968
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: of getting a glimpse of it. And the crazy thing

969
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: is in my life the time I get to the

970
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: top of the wall, he's already kind of got me

971
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: moved on. I don't have any there's no time to

972
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: like boast on look at this calling. Look what I did.

973
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, man, he's got me like chopping

974
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: up this wood over here. I don't know why, but man,

975
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: karate kid wax on wax off. Yep, he just wax

976
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: on wax off. And you're like, what am I doing?

977
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: This still just feels ridiculous, and then one day, you know,

978
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: karate and you beat Johnny in the championship. That's right, man,

979
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: great question. Uh, I could we could probably talk about

980
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 1: this for an hour, but it's so it's so good. Yeah,

981
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: you could go ten years without hearing anything, and that

982
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: could just be that's the brick by brick that Bernie's

983
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: talking about. Or you could literally get a phone call

984
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: from your boss tomorrow and say I'm promoting you, and

985
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 1: you go, okay, well there's in it. But but regardless,

986
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: just ask him. Bring it to God. Yeah, bring it

987
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: to him over and over and over with it. Yeah,

988
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: that's what he wants. And his word tells us that

989
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: his grace is sufficient. So if you never get to

990
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: see a big wall, you never get a promotion. Man.

991
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: I just feel like I rest all the time, and

992
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: the fact that his grace is all I need, that's sufficient. Dude.

993
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: We got to end it with that. I love so much. Man.

994
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: If you want Bernie comment here, bring Bernie back. I

995
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: got a feeling it's gonna work all right. See you guys.

996
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: Thanks for me on the Granger Smith podcast. I appreciate

997
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: all of you guys, you could help me out by

998
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, subscribe

999
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: to this channel, hit that little like button and notification

1000
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: spell so that you never miss anytime I upload a video.

1001
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 1: If you have a question for me that you would

1002
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: like me to answer, email Grangersmith Podcast at gmail dot com.

1003
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: Yie