1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't find AM six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: It's the John Cobelt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in a 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: John Cobelt could to be with you on a Friday. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to be governor. There's no real candidate in 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: the race and no movement on the horizon. This is fascinating. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: You have really for politics For a Democrat politician. The 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: best place to be if you want to be in 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: national politics, and that is governor of the largest state 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: and a blue state like governor of Massachusetts. Pretty good. 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Governor of Illinois kind of a problem because Chicago's a mess. California, well, 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to national politics, most people think about 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: California in a way that they see it on TV. 14 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Like most Americans will never visit California. And the few 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,279 Speaker 1: Americans that do go to events. They're here for a reason. 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: So they go directly to the airport, take a ride 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: to the hotel for the conference, or go to the 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: convention center, or they're here for a ballgame, football game, 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: baseball game, right, I mean, think about it. For most Americans, 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles they see is the overhead view of 21 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium during the World Series, and it looks fantastic. 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium looks spectacular on TV. Where is Petco Park 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: looks spectacular on TV? Levi Stadium in San Francisco looks 24 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: amazing on TV. So for most Americans, they don't think 25 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: of California as having the kinds of problems that you 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and I who live here know. So California is a 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: great place to springboard to national politics, which is why 28 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is so eager to do it. So why 29 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't anybody else want that diving board, which is the governor? 30 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: And why did Democrats so poorly plan to have the 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: obvious next Democrat up and coming person be the candidate 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: for governor? They did it with Gavin. I mean, Newsom 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: was lieutenant governor. He and Jerry Brown didn't like each other, 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: and the lieutenant governor doesn't do anything, especially when you 35 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: have such a high profile governor as Jerry Brown. So 36 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: but you know, he toiled lieutenant governor's office for eight 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: years and did party building and team building and built 38 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: his own little kitchen cabinet and his own network of 39 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: fundraising and when it was his time, there was no 40 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: question that Newsom was going to be governor, and he 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: is and no one else is doing that, and there's 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: nothing else like that. The first person to open up 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: an account, a campaign account for governor was the lieutenant governor. 44 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: And I understand she was very good friends, like personal 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: friends with Vice President Kamala Harris. The two of them 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: hung out together all the time. And so I even 47 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: think there was some chatter that should Kamala Harris decide 48 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: to run for governor, that Elini Kugaraculis or whatever her 49 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: name is. She's an unpronounceable name. That's part of the 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: political problem she has that and she's had a strikingly 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: unremarkable run as lieutenant governor. But nevertheless, she opened the 52 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: campaign account and then just dropped out like nothing happened. 53 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Same thing with Tony Atkins. Tony Atkins had all the 54 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: box checked. She was a woman, she was well, she 55 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: is a woman. She is a lesbian. She was the 56 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: first lesbian woman speaker of the State Assembly. Democrats loved 57 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: that stuff. They love being the first, this, the first that. 58 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Then she went on to become a state senator. I 59 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: don't know if she was the first gay state senator. No, 60 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: she certainly wouldn't be. But she was the first Senate leader. 61 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: She was a speaker, she was the pro ten leader 62 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: of the Senate, so she was the head of the Senate. 63 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: And she was still gay and still a woman, so 64 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: she had that lane because the Democrats like, being a 65 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: woman in and of itself is an accomplishment, being gay 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: in and of itself is an accomplishment. So she had 67 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: it all going on. She just collapsed. She opened up 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: an account. She was Tony for governor, and it went nowhere, 69 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: and it just fell apart. Then Kamala Harris was going 70 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: to make a decision, and she made a decision, and 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: she decided that she didn't want to be the governor. 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: And then I predicted it. I was wrong. My prediction 73 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: was wrong. I was sure that the absolute open field 74 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: meant that Senator Alex Padilla would make the decision to 75 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: vacate his will, not vacate the Senates heat run as 76 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: a senator, because it really is beat being in the 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: minority already in the Senate, and California Democrats are not 78 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: used to being in the minority. I don't think Alex 79 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: Badia ever was in the minority in his life in 80 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: any political capacity, So they absolutely have no understanding about 81 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: what it's like being in the minority and how to 82 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: be an effective member of the minority party because you 83 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: don't get to do anything. You have to fundraise and 84 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: strategize and come up with alternative, better policies, and Democrats 85 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: are good at fundraising but terrible at policy. So it's 86 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: beat being back there in the Senate. And he is, 87 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: frankly an unremarkable senator from California. He's got no rasmatas, 88 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: no flash, no nothing. He's always crying about something. So 89 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: I thought, that's what's going to happen. I see this now. 90 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: He is going to run for governor, and then when 91 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: he becomes governor, he will then relinquish his Senate seat 92 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: and the remaining term of the Senate seat. The governor 93 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: has two choices in California. You can hold a special 94 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: election in forty five days or a point and he 95 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: will appoint Gavin Newsom, and Newsom will take that appointment 96 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: and pledge to only be there for the remainder of 97 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Padia seat, and that will give him two years away 98 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: from California on a national stage. Arms length plausible deniability 99 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: of any bad things that happened in California, and that 100 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: was a perfect plan. But I was wrong. Badia announced 101 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday that he doesn't want to be governor either. So 102 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: now nobody is the front runner to be governor of California. 103 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: Isn't that amazing. So here's the latest poll leading the pack, 104 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: and when I say leading thirteen percent, Riverside County Sheriff 105 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: Chad Bianco he's in first place, Katie Porter at eleven. 106 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: That ship is sailed at eight percent, Javier Bessera tied 107 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: with Steve Hilton. Then you have former Mayor Antonio via Rigosa. 108 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: I think that ship is sale. People don't like retreads 109 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: in politics, and via Rigosa at this point would be 110 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: a political retread. And then you get to nowhere's land 111 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: Betty E and Rick Caruso and Tony Thurman and Stephen Klubeck. 112 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Forget it. That's that's not happening. But forty five percent 113 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: of those polled had no choice forty five percent. So 114 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: the race is wide open. And there's only three hundred 115 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: and fifty nine days until the election, which is a 116 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: short amount of time to raise the kind of money 117 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: you need to compete in California. Unless you come in 118 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: with a high profile name, which means somebody from the 119 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: world of celebrity. Whether it's business or pop culture, sports, 120 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it is absolutely wide open. Loupenrose 121 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: and for John Cobelt on the John coblt Show on 122 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 123 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 124 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: six forty. 125 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Loup Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt Show. 126 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: And you've been hearing about it all day. Flight delays 127 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and very very hassled flyers forty major airports four percent 128 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: of all flights. That is starting today at four percent, 129 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: on its way up to ten percent by next weekend. 130 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: American Airlines is reporting two hundred and twenty flights canceled, 131 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Delta Airlines one hundred and seventy. United Airlines two hundred flights. 132 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, all right. News Nations national correspondent Jessica 133 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Jessica Cartovilla is with us. Hey, Jessica, thanks for spending 134 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: time with us. I hope you're not on a plane 135 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: or on your way to an airport. 136 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: No, thank you, I am not. Fortunately, we're at Newer 137 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: Airport where you know, we've just heard from the Associated 138 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: Press that the total number of flights canceled today has 139 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 4: topped one thousand and again, as you said, this is 140 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: just four percent. Then we're going to ten percent, and 141 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: today Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy said, if this shutdown continues, 142 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: we can see this go all the way up to 143 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: twenty percent of flight being canceled. And it's not just 144 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: the larger airports that are affected, like lax or here 145 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: in New York at Newark or JFK, smaller airports, even Peterborough, 146 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: which is just outside of Manhattan where we see a 147 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: lot of private flights, they're affected as well. Sean Duffy 148 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 4: is saying that, you know, they have to assess what 149 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: controllers are coming in and what is going to take, 150 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, for the airlines to bring these flights back. 151 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: Considering that the shutdown is continuing, forty airports affected, they 152 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 4: are starting with that four percent kind as I said, 153 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: but we're talking about eighteen hundred flights that will be 154 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: impacted a day when this goes up to you know, 155 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: ten percent. 156 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: So just does is it? 157 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? What a headache? Is it? Just air traffic controllers 158 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: or are TSA agents also calling in? Are are others? 159 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, are we seeing sympathy strikes or is this 160 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: just the air traffic controllers. 161 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 4: No, so we're seeing both. But it's really the air 162 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: traffic controllers that is the issue here, because what's happening 163 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: is we've heard Secretary Duffy saying that, you know, so 164 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 4: many of them had to go and get the second job, 165 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: like driving Uber or Lyft for example, and then uh, 166 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: you know, they can't come to a job where they're 167 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: not getting paid. So we've heard the stories of air 168 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: traffic controllers to say, look, I can't pay for child's care, 169 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: then get a lift or an Uber job where I'm 170 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: still getting a paycheck to come to my job where 171 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: I'm not getting paid at all. And that's the challenge. 172 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 4: You know, we have seen TSA calling out, but that 173 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be issue, especially not here in New York. 174 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: That's not what we're seeing in some of the bigger 175 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: air The nice thing or the silver lining to all 176 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: of this is that people are getting the message they're 177 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 4: not coming to the airport. You know, we're not seeing 178 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: people sitting on the floor of the airport because their 179 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 4: flight was canceled, are delayed, they're listening to the reports, 180 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: they are downloading the airlines apps, they are getting real 181 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: time information and not coming to the airport if their 182 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: flight was canceled. Also, fortunately we are not seeing this 183 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 4: huge holiday rush just yet. If this government shut down continues, though, 184 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: that's going to be a major hassle and could you know, 185 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 4: really erode consumer confidence in these airlines. 186 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: So when these kinds of things happen for specific airlines, 187 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: I remember, I don't I don't remember which airline it was, 188 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: but it had software issue and it messed things up 189 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: for a couple of days. It took a couple of 190 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: days after that for the airline to get back in 191 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: order right, to get their schedules back, to get all 192 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: the planes where're supposed to be good old right. That 193 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: was one airline. So now you're talking about the higher 194 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: airline industry all gonna they're all gonna be behind. Even 195 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: if I see the Senate is still in session, there's 196 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: talk of perhaps some kind of compromise. Even if this 197 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: is resolved by this weekend, it's you're still saying that 198 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: it's going to be many days thereafter until all the 199 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: planes are where they're supposed to be, and all the 200 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: people are where they're supposed to be. Yeah. 201 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely, We're going to see the residual effects of this 202 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 4: for quite some time. So every day, you know, when 203 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: we don't see it, places going and it impacts you know, 204 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 4: even a percentage. We're talking about millions of dollars in 205 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: the economy that you know that is being impacted. And 206 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 4: then you have the thing too, if people start canceling 207 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 4: their plans, that's hotel, those are taxis ubers, it's you know, 208 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: people spending money. It's in the community. 209 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: You know. 210 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: The trickle down effect is just the range of this 211 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: is so wide. You know, even today, which is unprecedent, 212 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: their frontier airlines as ceo posts on social media that 213 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: you know, might be a good idea to buy a 214 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: plane ticket with another carrier, just in that your flight 215 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 4: is wow, okay business a CEO of a major airline 216 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: encouraging someone to buy a backup flight on another terrier. 217 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: So you know, at this point it is desperate times, 218 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: call for desperate measures, right. So we spoke with a 219 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: girl here who is trying to get up to Boston 220 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: from New York for the weekend. You can hear it 221 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: all the noise behind me here at the airport, and 222 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: she was saying, look, her flight was canceled last night. 223 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 4: She got to the airport today, it was delayed, delayed, delayed. 224 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: She looked into getting a train ticket on Amtrak up 225 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: to Boston, but that was more expensive than her flight, 226 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 4: so she was just going to try to wait it 227 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: out and hopefully get there. So, you know, a lot 228 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: of people have plans. If you have a wedding you 229 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: have to get to or some reason that you need 230 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 4: to travel, and you can't wait it out. Unfortunately, that's 231 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 4: what you have to do. 232 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: And then when you as you said that, I mean 233 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: the other industries and hotels that are impacted. Think about 234 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: all the cars that are not being returned, the rent 235 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: of cars that are not being returned because people to 236 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: be at their destination for an extra day so that 237 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: now you are able to get to your city, but 238 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: there are no cars because they're all still out. I mean, 239 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: this is this is really it impacts people's just quality 240 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: of life, right, I mean, this is just it's just 241 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: making a miserable experience. And I think for many many travelers, 242 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the idea that this is the result of the shutdown. 243 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: This might be what it takes to get senators in 244 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: DC to say, all right, we got to get out 245 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: of this somehow. 246 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting that you bring that up, because they're saying, 247 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: you know, it's when the lawmakers are not going to 248 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 4: be able to get their flights home on the weekends 249 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: from DC that okay, maybe they'll be in you know, 250 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 4: that's the incentive that they'll need to really get this going. 251 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: But you know, today when Duffy said, okay, well it's 252 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: obviously not having that much of an impact. We may 253 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 4: have to see this up to twenty percent. You know, 254 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 4: is that a direct result of of you know, what 255 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: we're seeing here in Newark that people are getting the 256 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: warning and they're just slowing down the traffic and you know, 257 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: or are we going to have to kind of ramp 258 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: this up and put a little more pressure on So 259 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: I spoke with a girlfriend I'm originally from San Diego 260 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: who said she's stuck in Puerto Rico trying to get 261 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: back to San Diego. And You're like, well, you know, 262 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 4: it could be worse, you're stuck in Puerto Rico, But 263 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 4: she said, yeah, I have, you know, someone watching my 264 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 4: children and I have work and I have this, so 265 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: there's it's such an impact, and like you said, just 266 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: the ripple effect is very concerning. 267 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Jessica, Thanks so much. Be well there in Newark. We'll 268 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: check in with you again. Oh my goodness, I can 269 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like at these airports right now, 270 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: And imagine just sitting at the airport bar watching the 271 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: news and seeing that there's just yet another impasse vote 272 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: in the United States. Senate Lou Penrose INVA John Cobelt 273 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: on the John Cobelt Show on KFI AM six forty. 274 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 275 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: six forty. 276 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose in for John Coblt on the John coblt Show. 277 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Just getting word now one thousand, one thousand flights have 278 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: been canceled since this morning. Since this went into effect, 279 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: major airports affected four percent of all flights. And that's 280 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: the beginning part. According to the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, 281 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: we started four percent limitation of flights and that impacts 282 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: other flights, but then it moves up on Tuesday another 283 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: two percent, and then on Thursday another two percent, and 284 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: then by Saturday of next week it will be ten 285 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: percent of all flights, and now the number twenty is 286 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: being dangled out there, so that is a deal. And 287 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure that people at every one of these major airports, 288 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: including LX, but it's not just LAX Ontario, San Diego. 289 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: My goodness, I'm looking at some video here of the 290 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: terminals and yeah, they're packed. Nobody's moving people that are 291 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: finding out that their flights have been canceled or staying home, 292 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: but some people are finding out their connections are not 293 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: now on time. Our weight thing sounds reasonable, it isn't. 294 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: I mean it is. Certainly it is reasonable because you 295 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: can usually get to whatever city you're connecting to. But 296 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: it's a hassle man. Four hours is a long time 297 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: at the airport. And I know at the Delta terminal, 298 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Wine is now eighteen dollars a poor now it's it's 299 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: nine ounce classes, but that's still I mean that that's 300 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: a You could spend a fortune waiting four hours in 301 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: the airport with nothing to do, and if you don't 302 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: have your own phone charger, some kind of power bank, 303 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: you're in trouble because there's they'll they'll kill you over 304 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: that that charging station. There's only so many things you 305 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: could do at the airport. So this is gonna be 306 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting weekend to see how 307 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: this is. This factors out politically. 308 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 5: What I don't get about this air traffic controller issue 309 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 5: is why don't these airports, which are run by the 310 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 5: cities and these airlines put together a fund where they 311 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 5: lend money to these air traffic controllers so that they 312 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 5: can continue to come into work. Because honestly, if they 313 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 5: don't come into work, then no airlines make any money 314 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: and no airports make any money. So it seems pretty 315 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 5: obvious that they should be helping out with this. 316 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that sounds reasonable, but it really isn't. Like 317 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: what's happening is not reasonable. I mean you can say 318 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: that about anything. Why doesn't the interested parties of any 319 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: industry set aside funds for a thirty eight day government shutdown? 320 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is a long period of time. Again, 321 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: I want to win this battle politically, but a government 322 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: shutdown is a stunt at the end of the day, 323 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: and I'm not a big fan of political stunts. We 324 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: don't have to we don't have to have stunts. If 325 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: your ideas are better and you've won the argument. You 326 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: don't have to have a political stunt. Republicans always wind 327 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: up caving in the end, so that's really where the 328 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: pressure comes to not cave and hold your ground for 329 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: once to actually win one. But Democrats had a really 330 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: good night on Tuesday, and they are now emboldened to 331 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: fight back. But thirty eight days is a goodly amount 332 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: of time, Like the point has been made. So there 333 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: has to be a way out of this, and I 334 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: think this extension of the Obama error ACA subsidies is 335 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: probably the right way out. Because even though I did 336 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: not support the Affordable Care Act, I didn't support Obamacare, 337 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: he was the president. It was passed, it was made 338 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: into law, people signed up for it. I am amazed 339 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: that people thought it was ever going to work, but 340 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: they did. They were hoping that their health insurance concerns 341 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: and their health care concerns, and their affordability concerns were 342 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: solved by Obamacare. That was the promise to the Americans 343 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: that bought into it, and it was working with government 344 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: subsidies that were you know, projected out over ten years. 345 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: That was the only way that Obamacare could work is 346 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: if the government, You and me if the taxpayer subsidized 347 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: the person that was on Obamacare, the person that had 348 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: the policy, and it was even extended, it didn't pencil 349 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: out even in the term that it was originally designed. 350 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: So under the Biden administration, it was extended by President Biden. 351 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: And now here we are December thirty first, and there 352 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: isn't enough money to make this dream come true for 353 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: you to pay a premium that you can afford and 354 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: still get all the health care you want. So the 355 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: problem was never solved without government subsidizing it. So there's 356 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: still a problem. Right. We still have people that can 357 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: afford private market insurance. There are still government regulations that 358 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: make private insurance just too expensive, and it's a non 359 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: competitive industry. There's like a lot going on there that 360 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: still needs to be worked out. There is a post 361 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: Obamacare job, and that is still making healthcare costs and 362 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: health insurance affordable to Americans. So given that the people 363 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: that are on Obamacare, that are watching their potential premiums 364 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: double on December thirty first, it isn't really fair to them. 365 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: They didn't do anything wrong, they did everything right. Democrats 366 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: are using that as leverage, which isn't right. They should 367 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: just open up the government and start debating the issue 368 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: in the United States Senate. So President Trump is right 369 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: about that. But now you have air traffic controllers calling 370 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: in sick because they're stressed out, and people are stuck 371 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: having to pay eighteen dollars for white wine at LAX. 372 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: So the only way out is to compromise on specifically 373 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: on the ACA deal on those I don't think giving 374 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: a year is that much money, and reopened the government 375 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: and let's get back to work. It's the only way forward. 376 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think President Trump knows that, and I think 377 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: that's why he signaled today that he's willing to talk 378 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: with the Democrats on it. And I noticed that the 379 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Senate is working on a Friday, which is unusual. So 380 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: this thing could end rather quickly, or it could get 381 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot worse, at least at the airports. We 382 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: will wait and see. Lou Penrose if John coblt on 383 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: The John Cobalt Show on KFI AM six forty live 384 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 385 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty. 386 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose Info John coblt on The John Cobalt Show. 387 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: John out and I hope he caught his flight. Now 388 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: one thousand flights have been canceled just today. 389 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 6: Flights at forty major airports across the country, including New York, 390 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 6: Los Angeles, and Chicago are being cut by four percent, 391 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 6: with more on the way by next weekend to ease 392 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 6: pressure on unpaid air traffic controllers. 393 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot of flight No matter 394 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: what happens, this is going to be a couple of 395 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: days of It's more than inconvenience because, as the caller 396 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: said earlier, if you have to get home because you 397 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: have children, like you can't what if the babysitter can't 398 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: watch the kids on Monday? And I mean this is 399 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: really a big deal for a lot of people when 400 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: you consider the amount of flights that have been cut 401 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: and the ripple effect that has. 402 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 2: The only way we're going to prevent government shutdowns is 403 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 2: to make sure that nobody in the House or Senate 404 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: receives a paycheck during one. 405 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: A lot of members of the House are not taking 406 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: their paycheck. That has been tried. It doesn't work as 407 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: well as you think. There are some pretty wealthy members 408 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: of Congress, and then they would be able to decide 409 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: what the solution is. So look the old. The only 410 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: way out of this is to have five Democrats vote 411 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: to open the government, or for Republicans to agree with 412 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: all forty seven Democrats. So that's it. I mean, one 413 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: side has to blink, and we'll see who's gonna blink first. Hey, 414 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: before we go, Tom Brady's dog is in the news. 415 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 7: Tom Brady's a durable pop Juny is a social media star. 416 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 7: But if she looks familiar, it's definitely not a coincidence. 417 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 7: The dog is actually a clone of Brady's previous pitple 418 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 7: mixed Lua, who died in twenty twenty three. 419 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: So they cloned the dog. They're able to do this. 420 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Now they're able to take a cell from the dog 421 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: and grow it into a new dog. I was watching 422 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: this and the scientist was explaining that it's basically in 423 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: vitro fertilization. It's not a whole lot different than what happens. 424 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: But instead of bringing the two parts together from the 425 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: mother and the father, you taken already. It's not really 426 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: a fertilized egg. You just take. The dog is already there. 427 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: The DNA of the dog has already been established. Everything 428 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: Everything about every dog is in every cell of every dog. 429 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: The hair color, the eye color, the attitude, the height 430 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: and weight. Everything about the dog is in every single 431 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: cell of the dog. So you just take one of 432 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: those cells and turn it into the other dog. But 433 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: it's a new dog. 434 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 7: The NFL legend revealing his new dog's background this week, 435 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 7: writing in a few short months, Colossal gave my family 436 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 7: a second chance with the clone of our beloved dog. 437 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: And people are talking about this, and I don't understand 438 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: what the problem is. Is that a bad thing? Why 439 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: is that bad? If you really liked your dog, and 440 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: you really liked the fit of that breed or that 441 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: mix in your family, and the size was right and 442 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: the dog was right, then you can try your best 443 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: to go find another pet from that breed. I mean, 444 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: if you can find the exact you know, family, that 445 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: would be good. But if you could, you have to 446 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: either go and find the exact, you know, type of dog, 447 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: or you can just clone the dog. I'm not sure 448 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: why that's so upsetting to people. It does sound kind of, 449 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: you know, science fiction y, but it isn't. It's done. 450 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: They figured it out. And guess what, Tom Brady owns 451 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: the company. 452 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 7: Grady an investor in the biotech company Colossal Biosciences. The 453 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 7: company CEO compares the process of cloning to IVF without sperm. 454 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a kind of like IVF, but it's done. 455 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: It's he has the dog. He's not the only one. 456 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton has one of those dogs too, And I 457 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: don't think it's a terrible idea. Now think about it. 458 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Even though it will be the same dog, it'll be 459 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: a different snapshot in the time of the owners of 460 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: that dog. So the dog's behavior should be somewhat different. 461 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Like if you had a dog ten years ago and 462 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: now the DNA clone of that dog appeared in your life, 463 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: You're ten years older, you have a different life, maybe 464 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: you are in a different house, maybe your kids are older. 465 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you have more free time with the dog, maybe 466 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: you have less free time. Right, So a dog is 467 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: also a reflection of its environment. So the new clone 468 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: dog won't be and behave exactly the same as the 469 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: old clone dog or the old original dog, but it 470 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: will be close and in many respects, I think that's 471 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: kind of cool. I'm not as afraid of the whole 472 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: clone thing as many are. I hear the slippery slope 473 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: all the time, lou this is a slippery slope, though, 474 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: why is it a slippery slope. I've never understood the 475 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: slippery slope argument. I don't subscribe to the slippery slope argument. 476 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: The slippery slope suggests that it's slippery and you're going 477 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: to slip and fall like there's nothing slippery here. You're 478 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: in complete control. We can and have cloned a dog 479 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: for people that want to go that route. That doesn't 480 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: mean that automatically we're going to start cloning humans, right. 481 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: We can govern ourselves, we can stop ourselves. We can say, okay, 482 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: we want to do this for pets. I really want 483 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: the dog that I had, so rather than try and 484 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: fall in love with a whole other creature, I'm going 485 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: to clone the dog. But you know, we don't do 486 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: that for humans. Like you can make those distinctions. It's 487 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: absolutely doable, So I'm not all that worried about the 488 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: slippery slope. I wonder if they will do it for 489 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: other animals, though I can imagine the horse racing industry 490 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: would be interested in this. I'm sure that cats will 491 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: do it. Tom Brady's the only one I know that 492 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: Paris Hilton has a clone dog. Tom Brady's the only 493 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: one that I've actually seen, and I've seen pictures and 494 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: video of the two dogs, and it is uncanny because 495 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: it is an actual clone. Unbelievable stuff. Lou Penrose on 496 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 497 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 498 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 499 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 500 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.