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Speaker 3: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 3: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 4: I felt mortified, but she didn't seem to notice. She

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Speaker 4: didn't know who I was. She was so nice, encouraging,

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Speaker 4: and curious. Nothing about her was caddy or disengaged or

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Speaker 4: straight up mean. She asked me what I did, and

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Speaker 4: we got to talking about the Internet. I had been

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Speaker 4: dealing with a lot of harassment on social media at

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Speaker 4: the time, and we bonded over how awful people can be,

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Speaker 4: you know, classic girl talk.

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Speaker 5: She showed me her Twitter matches, which were a.

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Speaker 4: Whole another level, like nothing I've ever seen her experience,

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Speaker 4: a constant stream of I wish you'd get rape or

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Speaker 4: I wish someone would murder you. And she hadn't even

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Speaker 4: done anything that day. Though there was some genuine, well

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Speaker 4: meaning critique mixed, then, it was pretty us drowned out

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Speaker 4: by the awful name calling, sometimes.

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Speaker 5: In the exact same tweet.

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Speaker 4: I remembered vividly how I felt after my Anderson Live appearance,

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Speaker 4: when hordes or strangers descended on all my public accounts,

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Speaker 5: My stomach sank. If she had a.

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Speaker 4: Good time as I did, she would probably go home

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Speaker 4: and look me up and she would think I was

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Speaker 4: a two face jerk. I couldn't leave without coming clean. Listen,

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Speaker 4: I said, can I be totally honest with you? I

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Speaker 5: I've never been a fan of yours.

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Speaker 4: This is not usually the kind of thing you hear

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Speaker 4: from someone you just met, or really from anyone, so

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Speaker 4: I imagine she was a little confused, though maybe she

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Speaker 4: gets it all the time. I went on, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I've been pretty vocal about not liking you, but you

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Speaker 4: seem cool, and I don't feel good about some of

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Speaker 4: the things I've said, so I feel like I need

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you. If you go online and

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Speaker 4: look me up, you'll probably find me talking about how

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Speaker 4: much girl sucks. She was gracious, I mean, as you

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Speaker 4: could as much as you could be in that situation.

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Speaker 5: She thanked me for telling her that.

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Speaker 4: She said she understood the criticisms, and she was really

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Speaker 4: trying and expand her worldview and understand her privilege. We

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Speaker 4: exchanged numbers and left on a good note. Then later

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Speaker 4: that night, she texted me something along the lines of, Wow,

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Speaker 4: so you really hate me? You hate me a lot.

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Speaker 4: I felt so bad. I explained that I didn't hate her,

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Speaker 4: but I never thought i'd meet her, and when you

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Speaker 4: don't have to think about the real human behind the

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Speaker 4: celebrity gossip, it's easy to get caught up in the drama. Then,

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Speaker 4: because I felt that I learned an important lesson that night,

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Speaker 4: I asked Lena if she would be okay with me

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Speaker 4: writing about the experience for my tumbler, and she agreed.

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Speaker 4: Writing about it forced me to ask myself why I

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Speaker 4: had such deep problems with this woman. Though some of

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Speaker 4: my issues were with her work were valid, I had

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Speaker 4: to admit that many of my critiques were rooted in

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Speaker 4: my own insecurities about my career and if I were

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Speaker 4: being honest, I'd spent most of twenty twelve developing a

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Speaker 4: pitch for HBO that was ultimately rejected as two network.

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Speaker 4: I'd wondered if that meant not enough boobs Personally, I

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Speaker 4: had always been self conscious about my body. I no

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Speaker 4: doubt would have sobbed my way through an on screen

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Speaker 5: I was easy.

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Speaker 4: It was easier to dismiss her work, which will had

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Speaker 4: positive effects like usually advancing body positivity, movement, and awareness

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Speaker 4: of reproductive rights, than to say I was intimidated and

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Speaker 5: Hey, welcome to the Black Autist Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, Rod joined us always on my co

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Speaker 4: host Karen, and we're live on a Sunday night. Ready

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Speaker 4: to do some podcasts and find us on Spotify, Okay,

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Speaker 4: exclusively on Spotify. Check us out there. We appreciate everybody

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Speaker 4: takes the time out to do it. The official weapon

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Speaker 4: of the show is an unofficial sport, a bulletball extreme.

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Speaker 4: The excerpt that I started to show off with today

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Speaker 4: is well that escalated quickly by Francesca Ramsey, Great book.

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Speaker 5: And it was specifically.

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Speaker 4: About this part where she met Lena Dunham after years

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Speaker 4: at least a couple of years of shitting on Leana

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Speaker 4: Dunham's work, you know, not as her soul earnings or

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Speaker 4: Friends book is is very much about both sides of

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Speaker 4: the game, which is there's things people do that can

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Speaker 4: always holding up a mirror to ourselves when we do that,

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Speaker 4: most people, I would set in my estimation, most people

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Speaker 4: one of the reasons we obsessed with the celebrity. That's

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Speaker 4: one of the reason we obsessed with we keep making

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Speaker 4: these distinctions rich people are evil and not and I'm

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Speaker 4: So you know, Yeah, if you look at almost every

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Speaker 5: Like almost always it's you know, man, fat people, those

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Speaker 4: likely that's the reason you're talking so recklessly, is that

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Speaker 4: And I think whenever people are confronted by those moments

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Speaker 4: that's a really, really bad thing. It took friend having

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Speaker 4: And so if people know every time Lena Dunham comes

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Speaker 5: Everything she does.

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Speaker 4: She wakes up in the morning, takes a selfie, someone

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Speaker 4: this or whatever. You start crossing lines intellectually that I

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Speaker 4: And then the next level, which I really love that

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Speaker 4: So you know, there's a bit of that inside of me.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 5: I used to talk about I.

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Speaker 4: Said that here on the show where I was like,

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Speaker 4: It's not that I don't think it's fucked up anymore.

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Speaker 4: I do, but why am I spending my show playing

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Speaker 4: your show responding to your You're still leading my show.

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Speaker 5: You're still you're like so.

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Speaker 1: Many people don't understand that, because the thing is, if

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Speaker 1: I listen to your show, I want to hear your opinion.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear inception of what you thought

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean some people do. Let's not let's not

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Speaker 5: What did we come.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not saying you don't do that at all.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying the whole basis and foundation of what

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Speaker 1: what do you bring to the table, and if all

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, I don't want to hear that, But

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Speaker 1: I know that those a lot of those podcasts are

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Speaker 7: People want to hear.

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Speaker 1: They want that mess now. I mean not trying to

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Speaker 1: be funct like like that's what they want. But when

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are mean, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: are unhappy, a lot of people are sad, they're depressed,

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Speaker 1: and they feed and they eat off of everything, and

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Speaker 1: they constantly send you things and the second you opt out,

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Speaker 7: To be just like us.

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Speaker 1: How can you opt out of not consuming this thing?

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Speaker 1: Because once you but like, just once you get on

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Speaker 7: I've seen firsthands people opinion change.

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Speaker 1: I've seen firsthand people have more compassion, more empathy, more

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Speaker 1: understand what it feels like to be bombarded and berated

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Speaker 7: No human being is designed for that.

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Speaker 1: within me to come out in that manner because for me,

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Speaker 1: my personality, that's not healthy. Because I began to be

439
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Speaker 1: mad every time her name was brought up, I begin

440
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: to be angry whenever she spoke about.

441
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Speaker 7: Her, and then I had to learn it's not that important.

442
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Speaker 1: And I'm amazed, and I think some people will never

443
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Speaker 1: get to the point when it comes to these celebrities.

444
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, y'all, that anger you're

445
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 1: feeling is not that fucking port. It's not the energy

446
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: and the time that you focused on them. You could

447
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: take that energy and to focus it into something more positive.

448
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 1: But a lot of people will never get to that

449
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 1: point because if I begin to focus that energy on

450
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: something more positive, guess what I got to focus on myself.

451
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 1: I can't deflect my anger out on them. I can't

452
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: deflect my sadness and my depression or whatever it is.

453
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: I can't deflect my insecurities. I can't I can't dig

454
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Speaker 1: in me and all, and and you're striking a chord

455
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Speaker 1: on something close to my heart me. Lashing out is

456
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: a way of self protection, and that's a human nature thing,

457
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Speaker 1: but people don't realize that's the root of where something

458
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: is happening. And until you realize that, you're gonna go

459
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: through this, do this cycle, do this circle. Every time

460
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: they bought up your mad, You're anger, you're upset, they

461
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: got you, then they ain't come up. You fucked up

462
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: for a whole day. Why somebody you do not know?

463
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Speaker 1: You don't know these people, y'all. You don't know these people.

464
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: You don't have a personal relationship with these people. You

465
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: would never smole. The average person will never ever see

466
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: this person. So why are you wasting this valuable energy

467
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: in your life on them? Focus on your family and

468
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: your friends, your loved ones, positive things in your life,

469
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Speaker 1: things that if you poured your energy.

470
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Speaker 7: Could be more productive.

471
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Speaker 1: But that's very hard for people to do because a

472
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Speaker 1: lot of people don't want to take that extra effort

473
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Speaker 1: to look within themselves. They don't want to take the

474
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Speaker 1: extra effort to do the things that they actually need

475
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Speaker 1: to do to actually be a better human being. I'm

476
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Speaker 1: to the conclusion most people don't want to be a

477
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Speaker 1: better person.

478
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Speaker 5: I actually, my goal is to.

479
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Speaker 1: Be a better version of me every day. That's a

480
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Speaker 1: personal goal of mine. Easiest said than done. But I realized, oh, everybody,

481
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: everybody don't function like this. Everybody don't look.

482
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Speaker 7: At themselves and be like, oh, I'm fucked up here.

483
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Speaker 1: You know, Oh I felt this way because of this

484
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, and.

485
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Speaker 7: That's just me. I.

486
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Speaker 1: Once my eyes open up to that, I began to

487
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Speaker 1: be like celebrities. Okay, they people too, Like, yes, what

488
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Speaker 1: they do is messed up. You know, some of them

489
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: is messed up, and you can say this action was

490
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Speaker 1: fucked up. But I cannot separate the humanity from that

491
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Speaker 1: because I don't.

492
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Speaker 7: Want anybody to separate my humanity from me.

493
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

494
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Speaker 4: I think what people hear and you can see from

495
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 4: the chat is like, so I can't have a problem

496
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: with Leana Duneham. That's all they're hearing, right, I have

497
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: to let go of this grudge. No one's telling you

498
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: what to do. Nope, no one's telling you.

499
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Speaker 5: What to do.

500
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Speaker 4: It reminds me of actual therapy and the way that

501
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: therapy is portrayed by people online and the way that

502
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 4: it actually is is so fucking different because therapists tell

503
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 4: you shit you supposed to do.

504
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 1: Right.

505
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 4: People online have this shit like where it's like this

506
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 4: is what the world should do, this is how everyone

507
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: else should change. But your therapist is gonna be like,

508
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 4: I am responsible for the fact that you live in

509
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: this fucking world, and you're gonna come back and see

510
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: me next week or next month or whatever how often

511
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 4: you visit. And so here's some exercises for you. Because

512
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: the world's not gonna change how you navigate that world.

513
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: The things you can control yourself, which is what you

514
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: ultimately take responsibility for.

515
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 5: That is what they're talking about.

516
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 4: So in the chat said we talking about Lean and

517
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Speaker 4: Dunnam and like not really, that's the point. I don't know,

518
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: And like I said, it's it's like both points are

519
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: being made at the same time. Literally, like the point

520
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: that most people can't let go of you say that name.

521
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 5: You know, Voldemort walked in the room.

522
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: And then and then the bigger point that we're making,

523
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 4: which is like we can insert any name.

524
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Speaker 5: It could be any name.

525
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: Pick a name, I use a personal experience, I said,

526
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Speaker 4: Charlamagne has started Like it.

527
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Speaker 7: Doesn't matter, Like Kanye West.

528
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Speaker 5: There's a level of this.

529
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Speaker 4: There's a level of control you give up in your

530
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 4: life when you when you apply so much focus to

531
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: these motherfuckers. Man, And at the end of the day,

532
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: like I said, you don't have to like them. This

533
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: is not excusing their action. This isn't saying they're not problematic.

534
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. It's not saying that. But what she

535
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 4: but this is from friends on words.

536
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: It's like I was.

537
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: Giving her too much, right, and some of the shit

538
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: I was giving her was to avoid the way I

539
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: felt about me. So some of the stuff I'm giving

540
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: you is my show didn't get picked up, And part

541
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: of the vitriol I have for your show is that

542
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: my show doesn't exist. Part of the vitriol I have

543
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: for your career is that my career didn't take off

544
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: the same way yet. And there's something so real and

545
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: earnest about that, because that's the only real thing you

546
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: can control.

547
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Speaker 5: How do you feel about that? And what are you

548
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 5: gonna do to work on that? You know?

549
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: Frean also has a part later in the book what

550
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: She Taught, and I've read it on the show before.

551
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: What she talked about how she was working out how

552
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 4: she was getting camera ready, how she was practicing, how

553
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 4: she had like bombed the SNL thing, but that didn't

554
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 4: stop her from working on her working on her writing

555
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: and trying other stuff.

556
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Speaker 5: That shit, right there is what it's about.

557
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: Because cause you can do that, Like I could come

558
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: up here every day and write a list of motherfuckers

559
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 4: I don't like, and we could talk about them every day,

560
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: and our show could be called you know, fuck the

561
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: fuck them niggas over.

562
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 5: There, and every day there would be people in the chat.

563
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 4: That would love to hear that shit and all that stuff,

564
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: but it would never it would never make our show

565
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 4: the best show it could be. It would always still

566
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: be beholden to these other motherfuckers. You know, there's times

567
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: where I used to feel insecure about our show to

568
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 4: the point where I would be like, man, we gotta

569
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: do this teven, we gotta talk about this this long,

570
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: we gotta move on to this topic, we gotta do that.

571
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 5: And now there's whole days when we.

572
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Speaker 4: Come well, I come in here and I'm like, yeah,

573
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Speaker 4: we didn't cover none of the topics. Because at the

574
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Speaker 4: end of the day, was the most important is that

575
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: we did something no one else would be able to

576
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Speaker 4: do so. You know, people notice, now we have a guest,

577
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 4: sometimes we cover topics, sometimes we don't. If it's a

578
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 4: first time guest, the whole show might be a damn interview.

579
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 4: If it's a friend, sometimes we'll throw out the whole

580
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: goddamn thing and we just talk about what they want

581
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: to talk about, because at the end of the day,

582
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: there's no other show that's ever gonna do that.

583
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Speaker 5: But if I was.

584
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: Saying we gotta be better than Blank, then I'm trying

585
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: to make their show.

586
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 5: Now.

587
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: If I'm saying we have a certain we gotta live

588
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: up to the expectations of the audience, in my head,

589
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: now I'm not making my show anymore. I'm making the show.

590
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 4: I'm making their show, you know. And I think that

591
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: that's the bigger message that we're trying to get to.

592
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck about Lena Dunham any more

593
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: than I care about like Taylor Swift and shit like

594
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: obviously for the purposes of jokes and humor, you know,

595
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: all that stuff, but in general, and I've been saying

596
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 4: this for years, I just don't think it'll ever sink

597
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: in when I say I don't really care about celebrity.

598
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 7: Right.

599
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: One of the things I noticed when you said, like

600
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: you upset that nobody goes up for black women the

601
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 4: way they went up for Lena Dunnoman, And I'm like, Beyonce.

602
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 4: Beyonce is a perfect example of motherfucker that a black

603
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: woman everybody goes up for says she perfect and will

604
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 4: attack your ass if you say anything about her.

605
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's healthy, Like, I don't think that's

606
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: a good thing because she's because we're taking.

607
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: Away her humanity so she can never like it's like

608
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: she can ever have a day when she just being

609
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: Beyonce out chilling because we have turned her into like

610
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 4: Queen Beyonce. We will kill you if you notice or

611
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: say anything about her. And I'm like, that might not

612
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 4: even be her wishes. The way that we consider protecting

613
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: is really projecting. It's like I'm projecting onto her myself,

614
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: so that I when I attack people, I'm really attacking

615
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: her for in.

616
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 5: My name, you know what I mean. So it's a

617
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 5: level of.

618
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Speaker 4: Not saying all of it, because obviously there's a lot

619
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 4: of it that is a you know, you do want

620
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: to protect this black woman, and she does have some

621
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: unfair coverage and stuff. This is not to say all clearly,

622
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: but sometimes when you're attacking the fucking co owner the

623
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: wife or the co owner of the Warriors, you're actually

624
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 4: way out in left field with that, like you are

625
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: wrong in that case. It's like it's like it's not

626
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: two ways of view it. She is telling you don't

627
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 4: do this her representatives, I don't want this. We've decided

628
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 4: she's not human anymore. You're an avatar. We don't care

629
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 4: what you want. We're just as uncaring as the people

630
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: we talk about attacking her when it comes out because

631
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: we've lost the humanity of it. And so any story

632
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 4: where you see the humanity of a person, I think

633
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: is important because humanity is also the thing that means

634
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: someone can change, someone can grow this, someone can improve

635
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: you know that because people are gonna fuck up.

636
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 5: Part of the reason some of these.

637
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 4: People are big deals is because they fuck up so

638
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 4: publicly and we all see it. Like that's the thing

639
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 4: I noticed about people like her, like Lena Dunnam's in particular,

640
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: But it's not just hers. A lot of them is

641
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 4: that they're superpowers that they get it wrong in front

642
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: of everybody, But that's really them too, like when they

643
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 4: write it in that script, that's probably some shit they

644
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 4: said or did that was fucked up and they realized

645
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: later like, oh, that was fucked up. Perfect people don't

646
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: make good TV. Perfy people aren't very entertaining. It's the

647
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: same reason these same motherfuckers will tune in too goddamn

648
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 4: Real Housewives every week, knowing those women are fucked up

649
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: as shit, and then be on the internet banging on

650
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: these fucking celebrities Like it's different. Like, let me tell you,

651
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: if you are supporting I don't know, Kenya or some

652
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: shit like that from from Real Housewives of Atlanta as

653
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 4: some type of like Avatar or just entertainment, there's no

654
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: difference between that and how people support these celebrities that

655
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: are like, yeah, they said something fucked up, but you know,

656
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Speaker 4: I really like they movies or you know, yeah, but

657
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: did you see when Little Busy did this other shit?

658
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 4: They're they're supporting them the same way you support other

659
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: shit that's fouled. You just don't want to make allowances

660
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 4: for anyone else with yourself.

661
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Speaker 1: Yes, And I think for me when I made that statement,

662
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Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about Beyonce.

663
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Beyonce is.

664
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Speaker 1: A prime is a prime example of that. But for

665
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Speaker 1: the average person of average black women, you don't get that.

666
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Speaker 4: I just want to go the average white woman don't

667
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 4: get that either. Lina Dunham's an extreme example. Yes, there's

668
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: a lot of white women get dragged all the time,

669
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: and plus especially by other white women and white men.

670
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 4: Like it's like white women are more protected than Black women,

671
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Speaker 4: which is I think is obvious because as Malcolm X

672
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: will say, when black women are at least protected, But

673
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: that doesn't like black men are more protected than black women, Like,

674
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: it's not just that, it's she's an extreme example of that.

675
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 7: Yes, you know what I mean.

676
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: Yes, she's a very extreme example. And uh, piggyback on

677
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Speaker 1: what you said before. Yeah, no, more people are boring.

678
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: You know what, the average person at home, nobody want

679
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: to watch your life because it's goddamn boring. You know

680
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: what everybody talking about the housewives and the marriage is

681
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: the breakup.

682
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 7: People watch that shit.

683
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: But you know what, people don't want to watch a

684
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: couple that's been married thirty five.

685
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: Years with no problems.

686
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: That shit is boring as hell, and you don't want

687
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: to watch it.

688
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think I mean the stuff that it's

689
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 4: just interesting to observe people and observe human because I

690
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,239
Speaker 4: still have a lot of I still have a lot

691
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 4: of empathy for those for folks that are like this.

692
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: You know, whenever I have a friend that's like one

693
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: of these obsessive motherfuckers that you bring up a certain

694
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: celebrity and they just got to go off, I don't

695
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: stop and hey, listen, man, that's a human.

696
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: I just be like, Okay, this is their shit.

697
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: They can't help themselves, and I just fucking you know,

698
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: wait for the next topic. Like, I don't have nothing

699
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: really to say on it, because I think all the

700
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 4: celebrity shit is weird.

701
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 6: You know.

702
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 4: I think hating the Kardashians is weird as well as

703
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: loving the Kardashians is weird.

704
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: We don't know them, you.

705
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

706
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: Like the only thing you can love or hate of

707
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: these people in some weird avatar that they've either created

708
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: or the media is created. So but yeah, and like

709
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Speaker 4: I said, it's interesting how even talking about this, people

710
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: immediately took it as a defense of Lena Dunne, which

711
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: is which you know, I can't imagine anything that would

712
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: bring us more full circle than.

713
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Speaker 5: Missing the whole fucking point like that, you know what

714
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 5: I mean?

715
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, that's the exact point that she was trying to

716
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: make right there.

717
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: And it is over and over and over again because

718
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: people they don't they don't want to read between the lines.

719
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 7: They see red and then they go straight to whatever

720
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 7: their points is.

721
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 4: It's why the shit ain't never gonna change, right, you

722
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: know That's why. But that's it gives me solid though,

723
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 4: So when I because when I, when I can be

724
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: honest and be like, y'all don't think prison abolition is

725
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 4: ever happening, and.

726
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: It's kind of a ridiculous goal.

727
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: This is why I can feel safe saying that if

728
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 4: you can't let go of hating a celebrity, it's no

729
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: fucking way you letting go of some dude that shot

730
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 4: you killed, somebody you love, get.

731
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Speaker 5: The fuck out of my face. You can't let go

732
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 5: of a fucking person.

733
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Speaker 7: You don't know, right and when your lifetime.

734
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: You can't let go of a social faux pop like, oh,

735
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: this person says weird shit sometimes, or this person did

736
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: made a bad TV episode.

737
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 5: You can't let go of that.

738
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 4: But I'm supposed to believe you can let go of

739
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: the criminal justice system is No the fuck nigga's gonna

740
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: stay locked up forever.

741
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: This is how it's gonna be where. All right, let's

742
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 5: get into the show.

743
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Speaker 6: Show.

744
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: It's all kinds of stuff going on. Let's see what

745
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: should we start?

746
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 5: Fuck? I don't want you know what? Sicily Tyson died. Yes,

747
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: I heard the age of ninety six. Man, she made

748
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 5: it a long time.

749
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: In nineteen twenty four, niggas, do y'all hear me? Nineteen

750
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 1: twenty folk, Yeah.

751
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: She had an Oscar nomination. In twenty thirteen, she got

752
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: a Tony Award Oscar nomination for Sharecropper's Right Wife and Sounder,

753
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 4: and then a Tony Award in twenty thirteen.

754
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 5: At the age of eighty eight.

755
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 7: She broke so many barriers.

756
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 5: You know what I mainly thought about.

757
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry made sure you can say whatever you want

758
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: to Tyler Perry. He made sure this woman got her

759
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: fucking things while she was still here on this earth.

760
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 7: Hen a whole studio, piece of his studio out there

761
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 7: after her.

762
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Speaker 4: I mean, in addition to like reviving her career, But

763
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: it wasn't just about reviving her career. It was a

764
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: reverence that he held her with a reverence that comes

765
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 4: from our community like that that, Like I said, man's

766
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: people are very complicated, like saying people hating Tyler Perry.

767
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 4: When he shared that video as she passed just him

768
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: and just the flowers, he was bringing her like it

769
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: brought to his mind because I was like, she knew,

770
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: at least she knew, because in that case, it feels

771
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: like Tyler's almost the ambassador for the community.

772
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: And so many of.

773
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: Our stars are people that we end up applauding because

774
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 4: they didn't get the applause from when they deserved it.

775
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: They do they do lifelong legacies of work that go

776
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 4: disregard it. And to see Tyler Perry be like, no,

777
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: not on my watch, I'm stopping that right here.

778
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 5: You amazing.

779
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 4: Anything I do, I'm gonna try to get you in

780
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: and you know whatever you need, you know, to shut

781
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 4: out the light and the And the thing is, after that,

782
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: it wasn't like she exclusively worked for Tyler Perry. She

783
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: was back, she was backing everything after that.

784
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 7: She was going the rhyme magazines and shit.

785
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody was like, yeah, that's right, she's royalty. And

786
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: sometimes it takes that and so, uh, you know, it's

787
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 4: sad when anyone passes, but she lived a very long life,

788
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: and it's kind of that thing where it's like, I'm

789
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: glad she knew she was appreciated as opposed to dying

790
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 4: in obscurity. And then we had to do a bunch

791
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: of fucking you know tweets and you that are essentially like, man,

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: she never got what she deserved. People never really understood.

793
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: I wish people would have told her how great she

794
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 4: was she was alive. We didn't have to say that

795
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: for mss Tyson because she she definitely.

796
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 5: Got her flowers while she was here.

797
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: And I wish people could strive to do that because

798
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 4: to me, like you said, those are the flowers, those

799
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: are the positive things.

800
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 5: We could be focusing on.

801
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 6: So rest in peace.

802
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: Let's see, speaking of rest and peace, Toys or US

803
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 4: is going to close the last two remaining stores.

804
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, man as well, I mean I don't understand.

805
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, basically you're obsolete now because literally everything

806
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: you have and that people can purchase online more.

807
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: Like toys were them.

808
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I hate to see it because the thing

809
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 7: about just be towards us.

810
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: They never wanted to restructure because you know, a few

811
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: years ago reading articles about it, you know, when they

812
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: were first found off for bankruptcy and they was going

813
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: through all the things, and they was saying that people

814
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: had went to them and were like, why don't you'll

815
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: throw birthday parties in here and allow the children to

816
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: play with your toys and shit like that, and they

817
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: just was like no. And then they were very unorganized.

818
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: It was hard to get around the stores. They was

819
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: like super mega stores. It was like they didn't really

820
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: want to adapt how they did things for the advancement

821
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: of technology, and like the Kodak, they got left behind

822
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and just did not want to make the moves necessary

823
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: to keep them alive. God, I think if they would

824
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: have made adjustments, they would have still been alive.

825
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 7: They may have been smaller, but they would have still

826
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 7: been alive.

827
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Speaker 5: I don't know. The pandemic, man who knows, I don't

828
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 5: you know?

829
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: Maybe well maybe well maybe, I mean the pandemic might

830
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: have took them out. But prior to the pandemic, I

831
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: could have seen them hanging around with re with with

832
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, just making some adjustments to.

833
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: What toy stores are still open?

834
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 7: Most of them are closed closed, ain't they? Toys?

835
00:38:58,440 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 5: Or US?

836
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 7: Is closed mostly like your big, big big stores. Kmart

837
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 7: is no longer open. Yeah.

838
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: I think Walmart literally is about it. And Walmart is

839
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: not a toy store like they sell other shit.

840
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 4: They were like the last ones left. So I don't know, man,

841
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what adjustment you can make if you

842
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 4: just sell toys, like, sell toys and then put some

843
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: lawnmowers in the front of that bitch and be like,

844
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 4: all right, so get your toys and your your appliances,

845
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 4: A you want to wash the machine to go with

846
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 4: them with that bike, Like, I don't.

847
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 5: Know what they could have did, man.

848
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think all aside, Walmart and Target changed

849
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: the game, you know, because if you were around before

850
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: Walmart and Target kind of swept, which we were, you know,

851
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: it was one of those things. But the toy stores

852
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: was the jam. Like that's what people bought video gaming systems.

853
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: That's where a lot of people would buy there, put

854
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: their shit on lailway and ship like that and purchase

855
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: it later, you know. But as time went on and

856
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: everything kind of moved online, people didn't need the physical sor.

857
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 4: They had Yeah, they had toys, our rust and shit,

858
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 4: and like I said, these other places they just sell

859
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: more shit. Yeah, they sell like Target and Walmart.

860
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 5: You can get like a car battery and you know

861
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 5: power rangers.

862
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Come on, we can get we can get the baby,

863
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: a Daifer and a motorized play car.

864
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 6: Yeah.

865
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 5: So I think that's what they kind of got fucked over.

866
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: Like anyway, it's just means we getting older, man, you know,

867
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: but I didn't realize there was just only two left.

868
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 4: GM aims the n sell of gasoline, diesel, power cars, SUVs,

869
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Speaker 4: light trucks by twenty thirty five.

870
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Speaker 5: And that's why matters Whon's president.

871
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Speaker 1: Ye, they're getting in line with Biden, like they knew

872
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: when Biden won, they had a feel like he was

873
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: gonna win anyway, because even before I think he won,

874
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: they were announced in making changes and the just like, oh okay,

875
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: they think he's winning, and they're making these adjustments because

876
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Speaker 1: they want to be a and his good graces and

877
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: b they want to be on the receiving end of

878
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the federal fundings and cuts they're gonna get for actually,

879
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: you know, pushing these things in advance.

880
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 7: Because something else with this too is.

881
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: That I hope when they do this they drop the

882
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: price of vehicles, because what I realized now is that

883
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: cost of vehicles are high. The average car payment is

884
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: like over five hundred dollars a month, and everybody want

885
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: it on car slash suv hybrids, and.

886
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 7: So you cannot.

887
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: You know, years ago, you used to could find a

888
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: good ten thousand and nine thousand dollars, you know, eight

889
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: thousand dollar car. Now everything is literally twelve to fifteen

890
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: and up. So you're literally pricing people out of the market,

891
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: like the tourists and the and the and the in

892
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: some of these smaller vehicles. Some car companies just quit

893
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: making smaller vehicles like they was like, fucking, We're not

894
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: making anything small anymore, which is vehicles that I like.

895
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, I like those smaller vesicles. They cheaper, you

896
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: can pay them off. Hey, a few hundred dollars a month.

897
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,959
Speaker 1: I can get this paid off in no time.

898
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 7: They make it.

899
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: Where you have to buy a fifteen to twenty to

900
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars vehicle, which is fine if you can

901
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: afford it, but the average person can't afford that fucking

902
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: rent payment a month in a car and the car notes.

903
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

904
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 4: I think it's interesting too, because it just took Biden

905
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 4: being in line and then him being like, look, this

906
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: is a job creation program, not a job reduction program.

907
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: And this funding for these companies, it's a new employment

908
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: for citizen in the United States going through a downturn,

909
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: and so it's a future thing. And ultimately it is

910
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 4: a positive thing for the environment, even if it's not

911
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 4: enough by itself. But it's interesting because Republicans have taken

912
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: a tactic of saying Governor Greg Abbott has threatened to

913
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 4: sue Joe Biden over the hostile climate agenda. He says

914
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: that will kill all jobs. Now he's a Texas governor.

915
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 4: What comes from Texas or right.

916
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: And also what was even fucked up is that under

917
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: the Obama administration, when they was trying to get a

918
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: lot of the shit done, they was like, hey, well

919
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: educate y'all for free, Like y'all know this ain't gonna

920
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: be around forever.

921
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 7: Them niggas refused.

922
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: Like so, it's not like they didn't come out there

923
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, y'all, this ship right here

924
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: can't last forever.

925
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: There's no way this shit can last forever.

926
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: This is why they constantly be drilling for all and

927
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: all this shit and tear down trees and fucking up

928
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: the ecosystem and shit like that because they don't care.

929
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just thought that was that was interesting

930
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 4: to see that they were already these big ass companies

931
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: are already like yep, no problem, like hit the switch,

932
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 4: like like it just takes somebody different being in charge.

933
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: If Trump would have won reelection that before, it be

934
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: until we got a democratic president before they would even

935
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: consider this shit. They would be like, we would never

936
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: do it on our own. We would never do it

937
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 4: unless the government was gonna say we had to do it.

938
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: And suddenly the government says they has to do it,

939
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: and they're like, oh yeah, yeah, no problem.

940
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 5: It would switch it up right.

941
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 7: Which means that could have did it all the time.

942
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 7: They's gonna give a fuck.

943
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 4: Tory Lane seeks the right to publicly comment on Megan

944
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 4: the Stallion case. Why I thought about this because a

945
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 4: lot of people said why. A lot of people say

946
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: he's gonna get himself in trouble. A lot of people

947
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: think it's a bad idea, and I don't necessarily disagree

948
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: with them, but considering the environment that we have, people

949
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 4: been defendatory Lanes without him saying a word. If he

950
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: said something, it will be even more defense of him,

951
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 4: Like they've been basically defending him with him leaking shit

952
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: and insinuations and blogs. I've heard men make up entire

953
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 4: fucking stories they don't know nothing that happened, and you

954
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 4: asked him about it, and they start speculating into like

955
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: Megan the stallion was jumping him, beating him up in

956
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 4: his car, and he had to shoot her to defend

957
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: himself and save his life. Like even though there's supposed

958
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 4: to be video footage of this out here that I'm

959
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 4: sure you know, if that drops, that'll change a lot

960
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: of people's opinions. Even though we have her kind of

961
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 4: insinuating shit.

962
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: I know enough to know we don't know the whole story.

963
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm not stupid, and it's not a quarter log,

964
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 4: it's public opinion.

965
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 5: I get that.

966
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 4: But the way that people have like jump to his

967
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 4: defense just specifically because I gotta defend this dude, Like

968
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 4: you don't even really know him, you don't like his music.

969
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: It's just why not defend him, you know what I mean?

970
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 4: Like he must have had a good reason. He's a man.

971
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: Women are the emotional ones, you know. Look up to

972
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: death rights and domestic violence.

973
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 6: Look up to death.

974
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: Not that women don't beat men, but you know what's

975
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: the statistic of women beat men to death?

976
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 6: Right?

977
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: Just look up to look up to when anyone tells

978
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 4: you something about women being not being too emotional on

979
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: and men being the logical people, just look up how

980
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 4: many times people use guns to kill their exes, their currents,

981
00:45:54,560 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 4: their people's families. Look up school shooters, look up workplace shooters,

982
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: look up mass shooters, you know, look up domestic violent statistics.

983
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 4: How often that happens, especially the women of color and

984
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: especially the black women. Look that shit up and then

985
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: think to yourself, now, who's emotional? Like, what do we

986
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: define as emotion? Because emotion, for the most part, means

987
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 4: emotions that men feel are valid and emotions that women

988
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: feel aren't.

989
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: And so when something like this happens.

990
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: Where a man is valid violent to a black woman

991
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 4: and it's a black man, it's a black man, that's

992
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: why we end up in these situations where people are like,

993
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, kind of fifty to fifty, let's see

994
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: it out. When it's a black man, we jump to

995
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: that defense in our within the community all the goddamn time,

996
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 4: So I can see why he would being bolded enough

997
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 4: to be like, I need to speak because y'all gonna

998
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: believe whatever the fuck he say.

999
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 5: Anyway, Yes, it doesn't like he like.

1000
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 4: People been kind of wanting to believe him when he

1001
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: was just saying much if he just gets out he

1002
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 4: did a whole album like this shit is so egregious

1003
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: to me, it feels like, yeah, this dude is almost

1004
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 4: like gloating, you know, to me, that's how it feels.

1005
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, maybe I'm tripping, blah blah blah,

1006
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 4: but just the way that he been operating, it's like, damn,

1007
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: I know, if I was accused of doing something this

1008
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 4: fucking Hainus, I wouldn't be out here joking it off,

1009
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 4: laughing and bragging about it. Cause to me, that's kind

1010
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: of a serious fucking thing that accused me of, especially

1011
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: if I didn't do it.

1012
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 5: So it just seemed like super weird.

1013
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: But I'm not shocked that he wants to talk about it,

1014
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be shocked that he would believe that

1015
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: saying something would change how people feel, because quite too

1016
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 4: often that is what changes a dude says anything. How

1017
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: many people defended Bill Cosey how many people defended.

1018
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 5: R Kelly, how many people.

1019
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 4: Like there's still people to this day, Nate p Nate

1020
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 4: Parker to this day, to this day people it was

1021
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: a setup or you telling me a white jury would

1022
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 4: let black.

1023
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: Men off, Like, yeah, well, you know if.

1024
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: Penn State athlete in Pennsylvania, where we're gonna act like

1025
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 4: colleges don't have rape culture, we got like college institutions

1026
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 4: don't protect athletes, gonna act like athletes don't get off

1027
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 4: on sexual assault charges all the fucking time, if they

1028
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 4: even get prosecuted, Like okay, So those two things can't

1029
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: exist at the same time. Got it, Only one thing

1030
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: takes over because we want to believe black men in.

1031
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 5: These situations within the community.

1032
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I wouldn't be shocked that he feels

1033
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: this way at all. In court documents rot about to

1034
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: pay six, his legal team claims the current order they have,

1035
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 4: which I believe have like a gag order issue November eighteenth,

1036
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 4: the significantly prejudicial to the twenty eight year old and

1037
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: jeopardize his right to a fair and judicial proceeding. Megan

1038
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 4: is not subject to the terms of the protective court order.

1039
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 4: In contrast to Lanes oh So it's not a gag

1040
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: order's a protective order. Yet that kind of happens when

1041
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: you shoot people. Like, yeah, she is, and legally he

1042
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 4: can't go back at her. So that's probably why.

1043
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 5: And she is.

1044
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 4: Because every time he leaks something, or every time she

1045
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: feels that he leaks something. I can't confirm the blogs

1046
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: are leaking his side of the story, but that's what

1047
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: it seemed like. She'll make a video every once in

1048
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: a while. One of them she said, bitch, you shot me,

1049
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 4: and my story not changing. Bitch you going to jail,

1050
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 4: she tweeted.

1051
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 5: She also previously caught him out over the summer, nearly

1052
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 5: a month after the Led shooting thing.

1053
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: Yes, this niggatory shot me, she alleged on Instagram Live

1054
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 4: you shot me?

1055
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 5: You got your publicist, Your people go into these.

1056
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: Blogs, line and shit, stop lying, wild lie and so yeah,

1057
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: they're using that to be like, it's not fair for

1058
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: him because he'll go to trial and people gonna say

1059
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: she was talking bad about him, so he must have

1060
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 4: did it, which is what I assume his lawyers would

1061
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 4: have to say.

1062
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 7: Of course, that's a job.

1063
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, I could do that job.

1064
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 4: I think I could be the defense lawyer for somebody

1065
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 4: who did it.

1066
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 5: It seemed like an easy y'all. I know me and

1067
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 5: one said, it's a lot of paperwork. You got a

1068
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 5: file paperwork. But I don't know. I feel like this

1069
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 5: is a pretty easy job.

1070
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 4: It's just me couldn't dry. Maybe they make it look

1071
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: so easy. I don't understand. But yeah, I like, I

1072
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: don't get it. And of course you know, in my mind,

1073
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you.

1074
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 5: Did it, you should probably shut the fuck up. But

1075
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 5: what do I know?

1076
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: I don't I've never done no crazy shit like this. No, sir,

1077
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: Meek Mill has deactivated his Instagram and Twitter.

1078
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 7: Okay, what happened, I don't know.

1079
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 5: I know he was on clubhouse talking shit.

1080
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: No that was going viral, so he called somebody to

1081
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: snitching all this type of shit.

1082
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know. I don't know why he did.

1083
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 7: I said, you know, you know, I don't know.

1084
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1085
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: He faced criticism after he did exchange of it of

1086
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: his with another Philadelphia native on Clubhouse when it went viral.

1087
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 6: Your dad is a rat, You.

1088
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 4: A pussy, Meek said to the speaker who disagreed, suggesting

1089
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: that black men don't uplift and support one another. You

1090
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: come from Delaware, bro, your pots is a wrap. You

1091
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: grew up in the suburbs. He laid apologize for the

1092
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 4: outbursts around the same time he faced backlash for a

1093
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: video that saw him give twenty dollars to kids selling

1094
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 4: water in Atlanta.

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00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 5: So, yeah, I don't know, man.

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00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: I think it's funny just all these people dealing with

1097
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: the sanctions the rest of us, So hopping off line

1098
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: probably a good idea. Maybe just need a break.

1099
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's literally a good thing. Sometimes you actually just

1100
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 7: need that.

1101
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 5: Break and talking all that shit.

1102
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 4: Like clubhouse is souch a funny app because like people

1103
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: go there is they don't archive the audio, but people

1104
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: can record anything on their phones and share it, so

1105
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 4: it's not like it's really private.

1106
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 5: And then celebrities go on there.

1107
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: Most of the celebrities are having very informal conversations in

1108
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 4: a setting that is like it.

1109
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 5: Feels comfortable, but it's not.

1110
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 4: It's like a bunch of strangers are listening to talk, right,

1111
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, when they say or do some wild shit

1112
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 4: like it's going viral and then a lot of people

1113
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: are literally just on there for that part of them.

1114
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 5: I'm not saying everybody there's people building community.

1115
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: There are people having a good time, there's people doing whatever,

1116
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 4: but a lot of it is kind of stargazing, and

1117
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: you hope it's.

1118
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 5: Like watching them.

1119
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 4: It's like people that don't like NASCAR when they watch

1120
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 4: a NASCAR race, you're hoping for a crash.

1121
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 5: Yes, that's kind of what's happening with You're hoping.

1122
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 4: You know what, there's no other room to go into

1123
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: a room, no other reason to go into a room

1124
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: with like Azela Banks, unless you're hoping for some shit

1125
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 4: to report back to everybody, right.

1126
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: And there'd be some of the same walk and he

1127
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: walks online talk about how these ces ain't shit, but

1128
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: sh they be the people, like five thousand people in

1129
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: the room as soon as they step in there.

1130
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm not I'm not surprised by it, but

1131
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 4: it's just interesting to see it all play Out's see

1132
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 4: what other.

1133
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 5: News we got here.

1134
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 4: Katie Carrick caught some heat for saying the GOP needs

1135
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 4: to be deprogrammed.

1136
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 7: Where's the lie?

1137
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1138
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 4: Uh, She's getting slammed for saying Trump supporters should be deprogrammed.

1139
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: Paid six reports following an announcement by Jeopardy producers she

1140
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 4: will be making in the Parents. She went on Bill

1141
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 4: Mahershaw and spoke in favor of Trump's impeachment and Twitter band,

1142
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 4: Oh she betrayed the white folks. It's really bizarre, isn't

1143
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: it when you think about how a wall so many

1144
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 4: of those members of Congress have gotten.

1145
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: But I also think some of them.

1146
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: Are believing that garbage that they are being fed twenty

1147
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: four to seven on the internet by that constituents. And

1148
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: they brought it, they brought it to this big lot.

1149
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 4: And the question is, how are we going to really

1150
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: almost deprogram these people who have signed up for the

1151
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 4: Code of Trump.

1152
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: Because other than that, it's gonna be impossible, Right, It's

1153
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: one of the things where and and and the thing

1154
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: about deprogram more unlearned, like but that that's a hard

1155
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: thing to do, is to unlearn this show.

1156
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 5: Honestly, I like the word deep.

1157
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, deprogram actually sounds better.

1158
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 5: Because that's what you have to do with people that

1159
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 5: have been part of a cult. Yes, you do like

1160
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: this shit.

1161
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: Like I was listening to you with Queen and J

1162
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 4: great podcasts. Everyone should be listening. But they were talking

1163
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: about how they were on a panel where they talked

1164
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 4: about white supremacy being like people it was all black panel,

1165
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 4: it sounds like and some people are saying it's a

1166
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 4: mental illness, and of course they were, you know, they

1167
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: were like, no, it's not a mental illness. It's you

1168
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 4: know that like and you know, thinking about that conversation,

1169
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: which has been going on so long at this point,

1170
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: people use that, Well, it's not that I thought about it.

1171
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 5: I think it's both.

1172
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: I think it's a cultural it's a it's a societal

1173
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 4: concept and it it and it and people some people

1174
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: who have certain who are prone to certain type of

1175
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 4: things get drawn to it the same way. Coach still

1176
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 4: like it's like saying, it's like it's like trying to

1177
00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: be like, well, David Koresh's coat was was obviously horribor

1178
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 4: and evil and have bad things.

1179
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 5: I agree, right, And then the people that signed up

1180
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 5: for that coat, what.

1181
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: They must have just believed in those things and they

1182
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 4: agreed and they wanted to do all that shit for him,

1183
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, but also, what would make you

1184
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 4: prone to believe in some ridiculous shit like that?

1185
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 5: We're probably talking about some.

1186
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 4: Underlying issues too, And that's where people get a little clammy.

1187
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: Because we wanted black and white and we really What

1188
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 4: really I think it comes down to is we want

1189
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 4: to really demean the people and not have to feel

1190
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 4: any type of empathy for him, right that I know

1191
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: as a black person, that's how I feel because I

1192
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 4: want to protect myself and I feel like my empathy

1193
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: in that case may not allow me to have full

1194
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 4: protection for myself. I don't ever want to empathize with

1195
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 4: a white supremacist because to me that person, I'm that

1196
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 4: person's target, right, just like empathizing with a tiger, and

1197
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 4: I'm a fucking you know, I'm a lamb in the woods,

1198
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 4: even though lambs don't be in the woods or the jones,

1199
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: you know, go.

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00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 7: With you gonna get eight?

1201
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, My point is like, why would I empathize with

1202
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 4: that person?

1203
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 6: You know?

1204
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 5: So I definitely understand.

1205
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: But from a clinical level, something it is something drawing

1206
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 4: these people to it that's not always as black and

1207
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 4: white as I can benefit from this white supremacy.

1208
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 5: Therefore, I believe it.

1209
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 4: We can see it with some of the black people

1210
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 4: that go over there. We'll be like, that's easy. Either

1211
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 4: a grifter or they're not.

1212
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 6: Well.

1213
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 4: We don't ever say, we don't ever say, oh yeah,

1214
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 4: they just think they're white and they're gonna benefit. Now

1215
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: we know, like that motherfucker wants some money or something

1216
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: like that.

1217
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: Or look at them, that's your crazy cousin from the

1218
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 5: cook guy.

1219
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 4: You know, june Bug was never right like, that's basically

1220
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 4: how we treat those folks. So I would imagine there's

1221
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 4: some of that in there as well. So it's kind

1222
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: of to me, it's kind of both. And when it

1223
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 4: comes to coach, deprogramming is the language they use for

1224
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 4: how you get someone out of that shit. Now, to me,

1225
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: is it worthwhile to do that shit?

1226
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 6: No?

1227
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 5: But only because these are not my family members.

1228
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: Right, I don't know these I don't care if Kleitus

1229
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 4: comes back to reality and gets out of the q

1230
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: N cold, I don't care about that because I'm never

1231
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 4: gonna fucking be around Cletis now.

1232
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 5: Look, maybe you.

1233
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: Know, sweet Kletis, your nice cousin you grew up with,

1234
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 4: and he wasn't always like this, and then he started

1235
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 4: listening to Fox News.

1236
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: And went off the deep end.

1237
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 4: Maybe that's your story and that's something for you on

1238
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 4: your side to figure out, because I obviously don't have

1239
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: to be part of that process. So maybe deprogramming could

1240
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 4: have some effect on an individual level. But once again,

1241
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 4: why supremacy is also this system and so when you

1242
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 4: look at that system, it's like individually, whether or not

1243
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: y'all agree with it, how you got to that point

1244
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 4: not really my problem, you know.

1245
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 5: What I mean, maybe some of you can be saved,

1246
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 5: maybe not, I don't know.

1247
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 4: Every once in a while we read about when these

1248
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: motherfuckers that yeah you know, and I'm like, oh, good

1249
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 4: for them, I guess.

1250
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 5: But the point being, I'm not doing that work.

1251
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm more interested in the work that can be done

1252
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: to circumvent the system and the people who support it.

1253
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 4: So it's not it doesn't have to be an either or,

1254
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: and I think for a lot of white people it's

1255
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 4: not an either or because they have the privilege of

1256
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: not being targeted by these people.

1257
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 7: Agreed.

1258
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: So Katie Cured can be like, yeah, these people are

1259
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 4: these people need deprogramming, these people need re education, these

1260
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 4: people need this, that and the other.

1261
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: And I can be like, they might need that, shit,

1262
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 5: they might not. I will not be talking to them.

1263
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna be there to find out. And

1264
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think for a for a lot of

1265
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: white people, like I said, because these are family members

1266
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: and their loved ones, so they have to have that

1267
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: compassion towards them. And so it's one of those things

1268
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: where she can say this and stand behind.

1269
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 7: It if she chooses to. But I'm like, he was not.

1270
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: It's not my response stability to actually reach out to them.

1271
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: It's not my responsibility to this. The system itself has

1272
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: got to change. If you really want this deprogramming to happen,

1273
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: the system itself has to not allow this to happen.

1274
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: If you want to actually deprogram these things, you need

1275
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: to hold Mitch mccollin notlge people responsible for holding shit up.

1276
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: You need to hold the people they're voted not to subpreene.

1277
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: I'm not.

1278
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 1: In peace Trump after insurrection, dig into their background, hold

1279
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: them accountable, like like like, if we really want to

1280
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: quote unquote deprogrammed the whole entire the structure has got

1281
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: to change. And if you're not willing to, if you're

1282
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: not willing to take America and attack it at its.

1283
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 7: Bones and the bones of America's white supremacy, that's what

1284
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 7: we walk around.

1285
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 4: Both things would need to be done at the same time.

1286
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 4: But the only thing I care about is the structural

1287
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: shit already.

1288
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 5: I've already just moved these people out of my life.

1289
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 4: So I mean, I'm sure that's easier for me to

1290
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 4: say because I always think about the people black people.

1291
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: I always think about the black people that do have

1292
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: white folks in their lives that have watched them change

1293
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: and be adjusted, bied, you know, that have watched them

1294
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 4: slip down this ladder and right, And I'm not going

1295
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: to discount them. I'm sure they do feel like, damn,

1296
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 4: like what happened? You weren't like this. There was a

1297
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: time you weren't like this, and it is I think

1298
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: it's hard for people to believe that there was ever

1299
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 4: a time when these white folks weren't like this.

1300
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 5: But the radicalization of white people is a real thing.

1301
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: We just don't talk about it.

1302
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 4: This is terrorism and they have been radicalized, and the

1303
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: Internet is helped do it. It's helped weaponize these people.

1304
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 4: Some of these people weren't like this before, even if

1305
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 4: they only had leanings inclinations, even if they just really

1306
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: weren't deep they were a political they didn't care.

1307
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 5: This shit is so much out there.

1308
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 4: I think people do a disservice when they dismiss it

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Speaker 4: as a thing that we don't need to address on

1310
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: a like mental level, Like it needs to be addressed

1311
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 4: on a mental level as well as systemic. I don't

1312
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 4: want to do that work, but I won't disregard to

1313
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 4: people who are saying that work needs to be done,

1314
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 4: because it does need to be done.

1315
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 5: You know, like Jeopardy has a very conservative audience.

1316
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 4: Jeopardy has a very conservative audience, and they avoid talking

1317
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 4: about politics. Alex Trebek wasn't a conservative dude. And now

1318
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 4: they're worried that Katie coming out and saying this shit

1319
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 4: not too long before hosting Jeopardy, like if she'll get

1320
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 4: some backlash for it, she's sixty four or whatever. But

1321
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 4: my thing is, like, I'm just glad she said it.

1322
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: Fuck it, Like, then if she gets backlash, that sucks.

1323
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 4: But I'm sure you didn't get sixty four expecting no

1324
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 4: backlash for saying that shit. You Like, there's a lot.

1325
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: Around long enough, trust somebody has pushed back being a

1326
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: woman in the position that she is.

1327
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 7: Somebody has not like some ship that she has said.

1328
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 5: These people need to be confronted. Absolutely.

1329
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 4: Part of the reason I worry about people avoiding the

1330
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: bring up the fact that there there's there's mental challenges

1331
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 4: amongst this constituency is because I think we then just

1332
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 4: kind of ignore that it's happening, right, you know what

1333
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 4: I mean, on the end of we ignore what it.

1334
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: Like I said, the the thing about Amazon about her father,

1335
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 4: the documentary with her father wise Fox News.

1336
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 7: And I don't remember, but I don't know exactly what's.

1337
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 4: Watching her father go from a Democrat to a to

1338
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 4: a staunch Republican.

1339
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 7: And then back yes, and then back when they.

1340
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: Turned off Fox News and took all his little fucking like.

1341
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, made it so he couldn't have access to it.

1342
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: Watching that happen in real time, well, you know, in

1343
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: documentary time, it was like, oh, there's a lot of

1344
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 4: people that are going through that.

1345
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: What the fuck is happening there?

1346
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 7: Radicalization of my father something like I.

1347
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: Don't remember, Okay, Yeah, So it's just it's just like

1348
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 4: I think it's I think we do ourselves a disservice

1349
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 4: to dismiss that out out of hand.

1350
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 5: I don't think it's the only problem.

1351
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: I think just the fact that we even asked a

1352
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: question to make it it's this or it's that, right,

1353
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know, it's probably a little bit

1354
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 4: of both, because everything in the world is a little

1355
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 4: bit of both.

1356
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 5: Nothing can be separated into black and white here.

1357
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 4: Everything is a little bit of something like this motherfucker

1358
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 4: got some problems. And also, because like I said, if

1359
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: you have a therapist and you say, I'm you know

1360
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 4: these this is the way I view the world, and

1361
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 4: white people are the best and blah blah blah, I'm

1362
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 4: a white supremacist, that therapist is probably gonna be like,

1363
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: here's some here's some lessons and some exercises for you

1364
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: to do. They're not gonna say, here's how we dismantle

1365
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 4: this system. They're gonna be like, here's some things for

1366
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: your mental health to get you back to a healthy place,

1367
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 4: because where you're at is an unhealthy place. So I

1368
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 4: think we're trying to answer two questions at the same time,

1369
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 4: like what is this individually so socially that is fucked

1370
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 4: up with a lot of these folks, and then also

1371
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: what is it societally or and what is it systemically

1372
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 4: that is empowering these folks to even believe in this shit?

1373
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: Because our country empowers people to believe in this shit.

1374
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 4: So it's an easy lot of believe. But I feel

1375
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 4: the same way about that shit as I feel about

1376
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: brothers that used to be cool and now they whole hoteps.

1377
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 5: Whole as Yeah, like you were not on this shit.

1378
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 5: What happened?

1379
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 4: You started watching doctor Umar videos and now you're in

1380
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 4: a whole different reality than what we used to share

1381
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 4: in college. And I know you, so I know you

1382
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: weren't like that. This isn't speculation of now. They were

1383
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: secretly like this the whole time. No, you weren't like this.

1384
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: You kept going down this rabbit hole. And a part

1385
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 4: of a big part of this where I really don't

1386
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 4: want to dismiss it the Internet. We still don't know

1387
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 4: what the fuck the ship is doing in our brain,

1388
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 4: and we should not dismiss the power of this ship

1389
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 4: because it's being used to program people.

1390
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 5: So I think the word d program is pretty app there.

1391
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it's just a lot of things. A this has

1392
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: started years ago, since Russe Limbaugh. A lot of people

1393
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: underestimate how fucking powerful that man was. Like, he has

1394
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: been doing this ship for decades, and he was prior

1395
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: to the Internet.

1396
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: The same shit is on the Internet.

1397
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: He has been spouting that ship for decades, and white

1398
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: people have been listening to him.

1399
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 7: For fucking ever.

1400
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: So he's already sending He was sending those messages messages

1401
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: out for years, way before the prominence of Fox News

1402
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: and all that shit. So it's literally he was. He

1403
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: was some of the foundation of it, and it just

1404
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: went from AM radio to the Internet.

1405
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 7: The message hasn't changed.

1406
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 5: The TV, DON'TI TV.

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01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying that.

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it went from from from radio to TV to

1409
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: the Internet. Like that's kind of how it went because

1410
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: the Internet is almost like the final evolution of it.

1411
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: And but once it got into the Internet, it spread

1412
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: like Wi Fi. Because the thing about the Internet is quicker,

1413
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: it's faster, it's instant, right that there's no rules or

1414
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: regulations of what you can say. But you can't say that,

1415
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's nothing that has to validate truth.

1416
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing, there's no checks and balances, you know,

1417
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: because even with the radio, you can only do so

1418
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 1: much because of the FCC and all this shit. Liken,

1419
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: with TV, there's only so much you can do because

1420
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, we only you know, you can do

1421
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: this and say this, but we still have some forms.

1422
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 7: Of federal regulation on these things.

1423
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: Once you step out of the regulations and to the unregulated.

1424
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: This is when you get to the point that you

1425
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 1: draw all these different groups together. And the thing is,

1426
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying as far as there

1427
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: are people that are mentally ill in racist right combined

1428
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: like like combined, But there are some people that are

1429
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: just racist. And so the thing is you try to

1430
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 1: throw the mentally ill on top and you try to

1431
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: say everybody that's racist is mentally ill to cover up

1432
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: the fact that no, fucker, you're just racist.

1433
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 7: There's nothing wrong with you.

1434
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: You have your mind functions, well, you have good sense.

1435
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 7: If I give you a IQ test, you fucking pass it.

1436
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 7: There's nothing wrong with you. You just got damn racist.

1437
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree completely like and like I said, that's

1438
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 4: why it get confused, because we're trying to tackle a

1439
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: battle that's being far on multiple fronts and then label

1440
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 4: and then asking a really simplistic question, you know, or

1441
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: what's which one?

1442
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 7: Is?

1443
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: It?

1444
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 5: Really like, it's all the shit, all of.

1445
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 6: It, none of it.

1446
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 4: None of it can be dismissed because it is invaded.

1447
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: If we're gonna say it's pervasive, then it's pervasive in

1448
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: every aspect. It can't just be pervasive when it's convenient.

1449
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 5: And I think another part that really makes people.

1450
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 4: Feel a certain way about that is that people see

1451
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 4: mental health stuff as empathetic and sympathetic and and like,

1452
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: so I have to.

1453
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 5: Feel bad for you. You did so.

1454
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 4: And you have a certain issues with your brain chemistry,

1455
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 4: and so I have to feel bad. Great example, when

1456
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 4: this weekend or this last week in the NFL, white

1457
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: dude Chad Whiller beat up his black girlfriend and told

1458
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: her to bow to him and then physically assaulted her

1459
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 4: and tried to kill her, try to kill her with

1460
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 4: surprised she was able to survive, like herself in the

1461
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: bathroom of call the police he went to, he got arrested,

1462
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: They let him out on bond. Then they just charged

1463
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 4: them with like three fela need they escalated some of

1464
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: the charges and stuff like that once the story went viral.

1465
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 5: You know, you take it. Take that how you want

1466
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 5: to take.

1467
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 4: It, because I have my beliefs to why the police

1468
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 4: escalated charges. But people were like, Okay, so this is

1469
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 4: clearly a hate crime. People aren't talking about. This is

1470
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: domestic violence is in the NFL. Why y'all don't care?

1471
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. You know, even though I did see

1472
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 4: a lot of people talking about it. I don't want

1473
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 4: to try to act like no one was talking about it.

1474
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 4: But one of the main things I noticed from that

1475
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 4: was his his I don't even want to call it

1476
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 4: excuse because it's probably true, but his explanation was, I

1477
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 4: take medicine for my you know, my mental health. I

1478
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 4: had either like bipolar or something like that. I had

1479
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: a manic episode. This was a result of that. And

1480
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 4: some people's mania is that strong where they think they're God,

1481
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 4: where they can be violent things of this nature.

1482
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 5: And Pete, I saw people.

1483
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 4: Who normally on mental health advocates normally understanding when fuck,

1484
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 4: that's just excuse, that's bullshit, blah blah blah. And I'm like, right,

1485
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 4: because it's very inconvenient right now to have to go, well,

1486
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 4: that is a thing that can happen, and that can

1487
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 4: be not really you, you know, and that you were in

1488
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 4: the throes of mania. And because what we look at

1489
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 4: it at on the internet, not what we look at it,

1490
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 4: what it has become is a get out of jail

1491
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: for Carr. I can be a horrible person, I can

1492
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 4: do terrible things to you, and then I pull out

1493
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 4: this card and go I have mental health issues, and

1494
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 4: then you're supposed to go, Okay, well that was your

1495
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 4: anxiety talking. I'm not gonna And it's like, no, anyone

1496
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 4: that has to live with that will tell you, like managing.

1497
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 5: It is part of my life. It's part of my life.

1498
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,440
Speaker 4: I don't get to ever check out and be like, yeah,

1499
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 4: I know I did terrible things to you, but you

1500
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 4: know how it is mental health stuff, right, and then

1501
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 4: just dap up and it didn't happen.

1502
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 5: No, it happened, right. Their consequences for what happened.

1503
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: Right, and and and also the thing is that goes

1504
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 1: back to that accountability part. You can have mental illness

1505
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: and still be held accountable for your actions.

1506
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 7: Both why do they have to be separate?

1507
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: And the thing is people want to separate them, like

1508
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: you say, the purpose of separating them is to not

1509
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: hold the person accountable for their actions and literally saying

1510
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 1: you can do what you want to do. But the

1511
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: thing is when it comes to mental illness, and what

1512
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: frustrates a lot of black people is that this get

1513
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: out a free car only happens for a certain group

1514
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: of people. Everybody else is held accountable. We don't care

1515
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: about you being mental illness, you black or brown person,

1516
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: you know, you go to jail, you know. But the

1517
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: thing is that that rule needs to be across the board.

1518
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: If we're gonna have this rule forever.

1519
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: What we see it as a as a mitigating circumstance

1520
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: that should change the penalty for your actions. That's how

1521
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 4: it's treated in the court of law and kind of

1522
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: in the qurt of public opinion.

1523
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 5: But in the court of public opinion, what happens is how.

1524
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 4: The justice system rescinds it when they don't like a

1525
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 4: certain type of person. We were sending it when we

1526
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 4: don't like a certain type of person, in this case,

1527
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: a white man beating a black woman. We were sinding

1528
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: that shit, ain't no mental health, bitch, yr ass needs

1529
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 4: to go to prison, prison, and we don't care.

1530
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 5: What the fuck.

1531
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 4: When it was Kanye West, who was clearly in the

1532
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 4: throes of mania, nobody cares and he was saying ridiculous

1533
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 4: shit that was so antifactual, anti true, ahistorical. I remember

1534
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 4: people being upset with our show when I'd be like, yeah,

1535
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:00,679
Speaker 4: that dudes.

1536
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 5: Clearly have a manic episode. No he believes this.

1537
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know if you ever known someone

1538
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 4: with mania. They believe what they're saying at the time.

1539
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 5: It does. Some people believe they're God, literally God. That's

1540
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 5: not true.

1541
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 4: I am not in the throes of mania. I know

1542
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 4: that's not true.

1543
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 5: They they would take a lot of techtive tests and

1544
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 5: they would pass.

1545
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: It because they believe it.

1546
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:25,879
Speaker 5: So he slavery was a choice.

1547
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 4: Hey man, he's also in the same And if you're

1548
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 4: talking about how he had to go off his mass

1549
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 4: to make a good album, which was not very good to.

1550
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 5: A lot of people.

1551
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 4: So maybe the maybe it's not the black and white

1552
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,440
Speaker 4: catch all that people have. Maybe it's something more complicated

1553
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 4: where what you said is fucked up.

1554
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 5: What you said.

1555
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: Also may be a result or did may also be

1556
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 4: a result of his mental health issues.

1557
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 5: And I think that's why we get so.

1558
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 4: Stuck because we want it one way or the other.

1559
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 4: We won't block or unblocked, follow, unfollow, mute or unmute.

1560
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 5: That's just not how life is gonna.

1561
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Work, right, And there is some great area to that,

1562
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: because the thing is you do need to have compassion

1563
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 1: because of their middle illness.

1564
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 7: But at the same time, it's.

1565
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: Not a get out of get out of jail free card,

1566
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: and that's the things it can't be one extreme to

1567
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: through the other extreme. We can go, Okay, we have

1568
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: compassion because there's something wrong here, or because you got

1569
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: your medication, or whatever the case may be. But at

1570
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: the same time we there needs to be some consequences.

1571
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: We need to maybe separate you from society, like something

1572
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: needs to happen every and every consequence may not need

1573
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: to be jailed, but that need that there needs to

1574
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: put in our society, particularly here in America, like go

1575
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: to jail, go to jail, go to jail.

1576
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 7: Everything might not need.

1577
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 5: To be sometimes and sometimes it gotta be jail.

1578
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, now, sometimes it gotta be jail. Sometimes some people

1579
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 7: it might not need to be the extent of jail.

1580
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 4: We agree, Like I said, this conversation is very reflective

1581
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: of how I've been thinking about this ship for a

1582
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: while now. While I'm like, like the way people talk

1583
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 4: about stigmatizing mental illness and and I and I agree

1584
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 4: that there are stigmas around it and stuff all the time,

1585
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 4: you know, but partial part of that is how much

1586
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 4: we buy into it as the idea just get out

1587
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 4: of jail free.

1588
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 5: Guard. Part of that is.

1589
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 4: When we think we're allowing someone's mental health to overshadow

1590
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 4: what they do or what they say. And I'm like,

1591
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 4: if we would stop, if we would, if you really

1592
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 4: want to normalize.

1593
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 5: It, then we have to treat people like, hey, I.

1594
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 4: Understand you're dealing with this, you also have to be

1595
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 4: responsible so you so we can't just say you tried

1596
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 4: to storm the capital, but you also deal with some

1597
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 4: issues around mania, so we just gonna let it slide.

1598
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 5: No, you still are going to get in trouble for that.

1599
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 4: Like we can't just let that and and not and

1600
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 4: know not all of y'all are that. That's for the

1601
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 4: people that have a history that some of y'all are

1602
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 4: just like you said, racist, white supremacist, and your ass

1603
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 4: just got to go to jail too, Like it is

1604
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 4: like I think that's what fucks people up so bad,

1605
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: is that they want a catch all, even the way

1606
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 4: our justice system is, it's a catch alls twenty years,

1607
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 4: five years, six months, just but it's but that's not

1608
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 4: true and it doesn't work out that way, right, Like,

1609
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 4: once you actually get it put it in practice, you

1610
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 4: start seeing a lot of loopholes, a lot of well.

1611
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 5: This person had to extenuated circumstance. So we we want

1612
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 5: a lot for everything, but I don't think we can.

1613
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 4: I think individually, Yeah, individually is the only way you're

1614
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: gonna have to be able to interrogate this ship. Because

1615
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 4: some just like that fucking Capital insurrection. Some of the

1616
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,600
Speaker 4: motherfuckers came up there with zip ties and guns and

1617
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: a plan, and some of the motherfuckers came in there

1618
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 4: to selfies, and some motherfuckers, uh really had no business

1619
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 4: being out there. You know, you can listen to their

1620
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 4: families talk. I know people don't like to have any

1621
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: sympathy and shit, right, but you listening to their families talking,

1622
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 4: it's like they're like, we had this person had been

1623
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 4: having issues for a very long time, and we basically

1624
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: lost them to these conspiracies and this white supremacy shit.

1625
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 4: And to me, I'm like, I hope you're just as

1626
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 4: anti white supremacy as I am then, because to me,

1627
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 4: that's the kind of thing that that lured your family

1628
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 4: member in because because they're attracted to that, and you know,

1629
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: we talk about white supremacy.

1630
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 5: But to me, I look at that shit like religion.

1631
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,719
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that are super religious because

1632
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 4: mental Kanye super religious drawn to religion.

1633
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 5: Because of that. That happens all the time.

1634
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 4: Like if we don't want to talk about it, or

1635
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: we just turn it into get out of jail free

1636
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,879
Speaker 4: or good versus bad, then I feel like the discussions

1637
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 4: always end at the same place, which is telling a

1638
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 4: bunch of people not to say nothing, which I'm like,

1639
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: so then we just ignoring shit.

1640
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 7: Right, and I'm gonna keep it.

1641
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: Really, if you actually want to get deep, really really

1642
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: really deep, a lot of Americans compliant every time they

1643
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 1: taxes go up. We're gonna have to pay taxes regardless.

1644
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: But if you really want to fix this issue, a

1645
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: lot of people, particularly black and brown people, their donn

1646
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,839
Speaker 1: list to get their family members help for these manias

1647
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: and for these issues where they can't get the medication,

1648
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: or if they get it, they can't afford the medication.

1649
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 1: They're on waiting lists to get into the hospitals and

1650
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: these places.

1651
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 7: So if we really want to.

1652
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: Fix this problem, and we really have this compassion that

1653
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 1: we claim, we have, raise people taxes so that you

1654
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 1: had enough money flooding into the system so that you

1655
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: could get these people the help that they needed.

1656
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 4: Like, we don't have social safety nets in America because

1657
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 4: we believe in capitalism so much so people like you know,

1658
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 4: often even the way that mental health is addressed onlines

1659
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 4: mostly from a privilege point of view.

1660
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 5: Because that's everybody.

1661
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 4: Everyone you're hearing is everybody that could afford therapy, everybody

1662
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 4: that could get help, everyone that got everyone that got

1663
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 4: lucked out, everyone that got a job. You're not hearing

1664
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 4: from that person that you see on the street talking

1665
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 4: to themselves or whatever.

1666
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 5: You're not hearing that person's not doing a panel, you

1667
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So like even the way we

1668
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 5: hear it.

1669
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 4: Is very privileged, Like it's it's just a big ass

1670
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 4: problem that's not easy to solve and very difficult to

1671
01:17:59,439 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 4: talk about.

1672
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: You know.

1673
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 5: You just hope people come at it from a from

1674
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 5: a good point of view.

1675
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 4: But I feel like so many discussions on quote unquote

1676
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 4: our side of the table is about what you can't say,

1677
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,959
Speaker 4: and not about where your heart is and what matters

1678
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 4: and what kind of solutions we can find and what

1679
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 4: the problem actually is. It's just so much about policing.

1680
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 4: Whether did you say this right? It's like I don't

1681
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 4: know if I said it right, but can you pick

1682
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 4: up what I'm saying? Do you see any merit in

1683
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 4: what the fuck I'm saying? Like that shit, that shit

1684
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 4: should matter. So, like I said, it's a hell of

1685
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 4: a nut to crack because you know, Katie Currit kind

1686
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 4: of hits on it where it's like deprogramming, and people,

1687
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: I know, people backlash that word. And I was just like,

1688
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 4: are y'all sure that some of these motherfuckers don't need

1689
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 4: some actual, like literal D programming, not like some figurative shit,

1690
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 4: but like some actual.

1691
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: D program You need to find out what the root

1692
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: calls because for a lot of them, it's very variations

1693
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: of why they feel like just like like, but the

1694
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: ita is the same, the variations in how they got there.

1695
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 7: Find out the variations and find out how to see.

1696
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 5: Some individual things.

1697
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 4: Yes, obviously, Yeah, Joe Conscious said. This sort of rhetoric

1698
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 4: from Carrick, which comes across as so condescending and elitist,

1699
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,719
Speaker 4: underscores a the vibe between our media, which primarily resides

1700
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 4: in New York and Washington, probably where he's at, and

1701
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: the rest of the country, which is moderate to center

1702
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 4: right per multiple polls, And it's why the industry is

1703
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 4: so mistrusted and frowned upon he's a person getting.

1704
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 5: A check to exacerbate the problem.

1705
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,640
Speaker 4: Yes, he's a person that gets a check to go

1706
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 4: on TV and hopefully come across that person who will

1707
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 4: be fascinated by these talking points, by this rhetoric, and

1708
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 4: to lead them further and further.

1709
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 5: Down a path to where they only listen to them.

1710
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 4: If you've ever taken a second even see something from

1711
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 4: Fox News, it's always is very weird, insular coat, like only.

1712
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,559
Speaker 5: Listening to us.

1713
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: You can't trust nobody but us, your family is cut

1714
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 4: them off. Listen to the Daily where they were talking

1715
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 4: to some of these Q and on people. Because I've

1716
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 4: really when I tell y'all cut a lot of this

1717
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 4: shit off, I meant it. I didn't even know shit

1718
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 4: about Q and nine people, Like I didn't know shit

1719
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 4: about Q and q A nine for a long fucking

1720
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 4: time because I was.

1721
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: Just heard of, not trying funny, I just heard of

1722
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: that that recently, Like you know what I'm saying, because I'm.

1723
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 4: As big as it was. I just kept being like,

1724
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 4: that's white people. Shit is nothing good over there. Why

1725
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 4: would I even give a fuck?

1726
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 7: Right?

1727
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 5: And people go, well, all we do is talk to

1728
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 5: these white people. Well guess who ain't been reading none

1729
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 5: of it.

1730
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Me.

1731
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 4: Come on, I don't read nothing about Trump people in

1732
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 4: the Midwest.

1733
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 5: I don't read nothing about econom anxiety. So I've been

1734
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 5: avoiding the shit for over four years.

1735
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 7: I don't care.

1736
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 4: But finally on the day they did a good episode

1737
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 4: and I said, let me listen and shit, and it

1738
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 4: was what the fuck happened to the q Andine people

1739
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 4: after they conspiracy that Trump was gonna overthrow the government

1740
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 4: on the inauguration day? What do they do now that

1741
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 4: we know for a fact it didn't happen, right, And

1742
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 4: so they're talking to these people and some are disillusioned,

1743
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 4: some are heard, some are upset something. There must be

1744
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: another step to the conspiracy that's gonna happen. And I

1745
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 4: was listening shit, and there's this one woman who.

1746
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 5: Was talking about how she lost her whole family.

1747
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 4: She cut off her whole friends and family for this.

1748
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 4: Because the reporter asked like, well, do you mind if

1749
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 4: I talk to your sister because you said that you

1750
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 4: and your sister haven't talked, and you know, I would

1751
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 4: like to see, like what's her experience. She was like, no,

1752
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 4: don't talk to her. And he was like, I mean,

1753
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm just gonna ask her about this specifically.

1754
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 4: She's like, Nope, don't even go talk to her. And

1755
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're telling me that's not a cult,

1756
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck to tell you, right.

1757
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 7: But the thing is they can still bypass her and

1758
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 7: reach out.

1759
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 4: To because in our minds we think, well, it's white supremacy,

1760
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 4: all white people into it, or most white people into it,

1761
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: or if they're not into it, they tolerated her family.

1762
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 4: She is essentially like she cut her family off because

1763
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 4: they said this is too much, right, and she was like,

1764
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 4: fuck y'all in Trump is overthrown the government on the

1765
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: twentieth and that means I don't have friends or family

1766
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 4: who because they don't believe me, because they don't support me,

1767
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 4: then I just won't do it because the internet will

1768
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: be my friends and a message board will be my family.

1769
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 4: And that shit was I was just like, Yep, there's

1770
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 4: something wrong with that woman. In addition to what like

1771
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 4: her believing in white supremacy and in my opinion, being

1772
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 4: a white supremacist. I'm sure she wouldn't say herself that

1773
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,640
Speaker 4: she was, but I think you can't believe in that

1774
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 4: Q shit without being one. But something is in addition

1775
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,639
Speaker 4: to that, something is also wrong with you.

1776
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, and also it's.

1777
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: One of those things to where they go to such

1778
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: extreme and a lot of people, even on the left

1779
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: do this. Like people look at that and they be like, well,

1780
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't fit on empathy and sympathy for her by

1781
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:46,919
Speaker 1: bye bye byeh.

1782
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 7: Okay, I get that. I get that, But sometimes people

1783
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 7: don't left do it too.

1784
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: They call off their friends, they call off their family,

1785
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: and their whole life revolves around everything that happens on

1786
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: the internet. And this is why for some people they're

1787
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: so hurt, they're so destroyed, and they're so distraught once

1788
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: it turns against them, because the internet will turn against

1789
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 1: you or either you go out there reaching for help

1790
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, bitch, we don't want anything to

1791
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: do with you.

1792
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 7: Your loser or whatever it is may happen.

1793
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you're left alone and

1794
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: guess what, the people on the computer aren't there anymore.

1795
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: So then you have to deal with real life. So

1796
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 1: what is she going to do now? And that's the thing,

1797
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, that's the thing.

1798
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: These tactics are well documented this point and you're right,

1799
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 4: it's not just a Republican conservative thing.

1800
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 5: But it's I don't know.

1801
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,639
Speaker 4: When I hear people talk about this shit, my ears

1802
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 4: perk up and I pay attention because I don't feel

1803
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 4: like ignoring the shit or just writing it off is

1804
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 4: the smart thing to do, because I think the problem

1805
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 4: will keep growing as long as everyone's going, man, it

1806
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 4: ain't me or whatever, or man, you you just feel

1807
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 4: this way, like, nah, we should probably find out what

1808
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 4: the fuck is wrong and why this is growing, and

1809
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 4: why this isn't being fucking regulated like correct, because because

1810
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 4: to say, the other thing is if they would have

1811
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 4: regulated this ship when black people were complaining about this

1812
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 4: ship when social media started ten years ago, if they

1813
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: would have regulated it, then we would not have these

1814
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 4: problems now.

1815
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 5: But everyone just wrote the ship off. Man.

1816
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing how many people just are like, it's

1817
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 4: not a big deal or it's just how they are.

1818
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 5: It's not it's not yeah, it's not freedom.

1819
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: Of speed, right, you know, So anyways, out.

1820
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 7: Of control to the to the point that they marched

1821
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 7: up to the capitol.

1822
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 5: Katie Curried got a point.

1823
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, come on, deprogrammed these motherfuckers. You know

1824
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 4: you get offended by that terminology as a you know,

1825
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 4: then you probably either benefiting from the grift on these

1826
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 4: people or you know you, like me, you just wrote

1827
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 4: them off because I don't blame you, but still, somebody

1828
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 4: need to do this work.

1829
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 5: All right, Let's see what else happened. How long we've

1830
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 5: been talking hour and a half.

1831
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 4: Let me see what else we can talk about. Let's

1832
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: move to another segment.

1833
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 5: How about.

1834
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 4: I skipped coronavirus and the election news. Huh, let's do

1835
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 4: that tomorrow.

1836
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 7: We can.

1837
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 5: I don't feel like talking about this ship.

1838
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 7: We don't have to.

1839
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 4: Uh, let's do some do some guests the rights. All right,

1840
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 4: let's do some guests the rights. That will that'll make

1841
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 4: me feel good, make me feel good. Shoutut to Holly

1842
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 4: all rights music.

1843
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 6: Well time, Oh here we go, all right, right right,

1844
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 6: the race?

1845
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 5: Guess the race?

1846
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 4: Gay, We go all right, the globe, find different articles,

1847
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 4: and we guess the race of the people involved. Karen

1848
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 4: plays along as well as the chat room. Okay, shout

1849
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 4: out to white supremacist, because that's what we about to

1850
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 4: call out these all these names we about to call

1851
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 4: people in this segment selfish this morning fan slam influencer

1852
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 4: who insists Dubai holiday was a central work trip necessary

1853
01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 4: for her mental health. This morning, fans have been left

1854
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,560
Speaker 4: fuming at the fitness influencer Sheridan Mordieu, appeared on the

1855
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: show to insist that her Dubai holiday was an essential

1856
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 4: work trip necessary for her mental health. Hosts Philip Schofield

1857
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 4: and Holly Willoughby appeared to be equally unimpressed with Sheridan's claims,

1858
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 4: with hollyqu point out that the rules on travel have

1859
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 4: always been clear and have nothing to.

1860
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 5: Do with mental well being.

1861
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 4: That's that mental health catch all, man telling you man,

1862
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 4: it's that get out of jail free carve that's always

1863
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 4: been monetized on the internet, or not monetized commodified on

1864
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 4: the internet.

1865
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 5: Like that shit is a real hindrance.

1866
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 4: I cannot sometimes I cannot imagine what it's like being

1867
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 4: a therapist right now, because.

1868
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers will really be like, not fuck what your job is.

1869
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 4: Like, we'll tweet about go get therapy, but then people

1870
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 4: tweet all the time the therapists told them some shit

1871
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,560
Speaker 4: and they be on Twitter like Nope, come give me

1872
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 4: these likes and retweets and tell me the opposite of

1873
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 4: what therapist told me, like this shit is wild man,

1874
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 4: and then people that actually take it seriously are like,

1875
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 4: I didn't like it, but goddamn well my feelings was

1876
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 4: heard or you know it shit, Well, it's still a

1877
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 4: patient doctor relationship, you know, the same way I wouldn't

1878
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 4: expect some therapists to be on Twitter are telling me

1879
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 4: your business is interesting how we pull the thing. But

1880
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 4: the thing is your therapist knows more than we do

1881
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 4: on Twitter, of course, like you sat in that room

1882
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 4: with them for hours and they didn't give you that

1883
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 4: advice out of nowhere. It's just funny to listen to

1884
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 4: people on the internet and how our minds work, right,

1885
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 4: you know, Like if I said my therapist told me

1886
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 4: to do an exercise where I say hello to three

1887
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 4: people every day because I'm trying to overcome some other issue, right,

1888
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 4: And I go on Twitter and say, but I don't

1889
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 4: want to tell people hello, fuck people, people's terrible.

1890
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 5: People will co sign that.

1891
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 4: People will have my back. They don't know about fucking

1892
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,879
Speaker 4: therapist or what we've been talking about. They will absolutely

1893
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 4: I can tell them that shit in a way that

1894
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 4: will be They will be like, Rod, you right, fuck therapy.

1895
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,919
Speaker 5: Fuck your therapist, blah blah blah.

1896
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,559
Speaker 4: Like I can't imagine, especially because of how it is online,

1897
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 4: like it's a get out of jail free card.

1898
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 5: Like, oh yeah, you may see me.

1899
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 4: You may have seen that I took my dig out

1900
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 4: and pissed on this neighbor's car from the reason, but y'all,

1901
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 4: I struggle from anxiety, and there will be people like guys,

1902
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 4: leave my alone.

1903
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 5: He suffers from anxiety.

1904
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, so no one's taking up for the

1905
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 4: person who you get your motherfucking car piston? Have y'all

1906
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 4: walked out of the house with your car getting piston

1907
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: and being like, well, let me check what's going on

1908
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 4: with you mentally first before I delivered these hands, No

1909
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 4: one did nobody Anyway, she got to go on the

1910
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 4: whole vacation in a pandemic.

1911
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 5: Kicking off the show, Sheridan initially.

1912
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 4: Said that she had to travel to Dubai had a

1913
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 4: new year for work on her Shape Up with Shares

1914
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 4: Business Ship Up with Share Business, despite strict tear restrictions

1915
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 4: against leaving the country being in place due to coronavirus. However,

1916
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 4: when Phil pointed out that most of her fitness videos

1917
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 4: in Dubai were filmed inside her apartment, thus could have

1918
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,879
Speaker 4: been made in the UK. She brought up the benefits

1919
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 4: that travel had on her mental health. Hearing he live

1920
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 4: by the swimming pool from Sunday Dubai. The twenty four

1921
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 4: year old fitness Fanatics said the reason I came out

1922
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 4: to Dubai was purely for business. I'm a personal trainer,

1923
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 4: lot of gyms of clothes, so basically I took my

1924
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 4: own live business over to Dubai and now I do

1925
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 4: things in my apartment. I used to do it in Britain,

1926
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 4: but now I do it in Dubai. It's so it's

1927
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 4: exactly the same. Phil interjected, is interesting you say you're

1928
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 4: doing it in your apartment. A lot of fitting and

1929
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: stuff could have been feeling in your garage and bolting.

1930
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 5: You don't have to be in duba to do that.

1931
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,679
Speaker 4: And she changed her tune and said she has eleven

1932
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 4: five hundred followers on Instagram and twenty six hundred on

1933
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 4: her work Instagram. She said the main reason was for

1934
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,879
Speaker 4: my own self, my mental health kind of thing. Obviously,

1935
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 4: during the second lockdown, I was really struggling. A lot

1936
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 4: of my clients depend on me. To bring the motivation

1937
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 4: and happiness. As the third lockdown was coming in, I thought, well,

1938
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 4: my mental health is suffering. I'm not going to start

1939
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 4: something new just sitting in the house.

1940
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 5: I had this idea, but I could not be bothered

1941
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:45,919
Speaker 5: with my own struggles.

1942
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,560
Speaker 4: I thought the only way I could was going to

1943
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 4: get out of this is if I get on a

1944
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 4: plane and for essential travel and go to Dubai.

1945
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 7: Well it's essential, even though you locked them stand in

1946
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:55,759
Speaker 7: the house.

1947
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 5: Well you see these pictures girl. However, Holly hit back

1948
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 5: with the mental health was not a valid reason for travel.

1949
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 5: She was sympathetically reason. We speak about mental health on

1950
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 5: the program a.

1951
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,480
Speaker 4: Lot, and how throughout all of this there's an extraordinary

1952
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 4: number of people suffering with their mental health. However, the

1953
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 4: rules on travel have nothing to do with mental health.

1954
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 4: It's purely based on work. That is the only reason

1955
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,679
Speaker 4: you can go. And there are other influences, particularly fitness influencers,

1956
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:19,320
Speaker 4: who are managing the work from here in the UK.

1957
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 5: Joe Wicks is a perfect example. Oh you're gonna bring

1958
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 5: up facts.

1959
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Speaker 7: You ain't trying to handle facts.

1960
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 5: Oh once that got to do with anything?

1961
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 7: Damn, Oh she don't know about to care about them.

1962
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 5: This is a morning show.

1963
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 4: Sheridan assisted that she had messages from young followers saying

1964
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,639
Speaker 4: they felt anxious and depressed. So rather than wially oil

1965
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 4: and pity, she U was a loophole where you can

1966
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:44,719
Speaker 4: go out for travel and that will.

1967
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 5: Increase people's mental health.

1968
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,920
Speaker 4: Holly, question, do you think your pictures might add to

1969
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 4: people's mental health struggles? They'll be looking at your picks

1970
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 4: thinking I can't do that. Sheridan did admit it that

1971
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 4: sometimes she does feel guilty about the trip and is

1972
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,480
Speaker 4: divided about whether or not she shared the pictures.

1973
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 5: Which is it's interesting because you don't have to share

1974
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 5: the pictures. You could go to.

1975
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Speaker 1: Duba I'm doing everything I'm supposed to do, but if

1976
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I ever wild out, y'all ain't seeing shit.

1977
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 4: You could go to Dubai and live a very glamorous

1978
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 4: life and then still only share videos you working out

1979
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 4: in your apartment and go, yeah, y'all don't need to

1980
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,080
Speaker 4: see me out here doing this now.

1981
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 5: Look, I'm not a jealous person.

1982
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:25,240
Speaker 4: I would not be hating as on that as much

1983
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 4: as I'd be hating on you traveling in the pandemic.

1984
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 5: It wouldn't matter what the fuck you did for a living,

1985
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 5: I'd be like, the fuck are you doing?

1986
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I thought we knew this was not safe,

1987
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: Like that's what I would be thinking. So I just

1988
01:32:37,160 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 4: wonder why she even needed to share them pics.

1989
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 5: That's wild.

1990
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, Phil chuckling, if you go to Dubai and

1991
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,479
Speaker 4: you don't post, then you have to absolutely know it's

1992
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 4: used to go in the first place. He also poked

1993
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 4: fun in the Influencer when a video of her riding

1994
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 4: and cam on the desert was played, asking whether that

1995
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 4: was essential work. While Holly said that Shared's attitude was

1996
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,560
Speaker 4: not the spirit of lockdown Shared, it concluded, I just

1997
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 4: think that in the world where you can be anything,

1998
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 4: be kind and a lot of people forget about that.

1999
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 4: I love what you do when they do that, it's like,

2000
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 4: I know.

2001
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 5: I just did some ask soo shit, but y'all, let's

2002
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:11,719
Speaker 5: be kind.

2003
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 4: I think in a world where we could be anything,

2004
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:16,760
Speaker 4: I know, I just call you bitches to your face.

2005
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 4: But in a world where we can be anything, let's

2006
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 4: be kind. Okay, when I go low, you should go high.

2007
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 6: That's what I think.

2008
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 4: Michelle's right, But Holly was having none of it, bringing

2009
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 4: in the NHS heroes in the front line. Are you

2010
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 4: why when you say be kind when we see how

2011
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 4: stretched out the NHS is and the nurse is working really,

2012
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 4: really hard, and all they're saying is stay please, stay home,

2013
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 4: do the right thing and stay home. You're saying be

2014
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 4: cond Are you really being kind to them by encouraging

2015
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:49,759
Speaker 4: others to travel by what you deem essential work sharing

2016
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 4: and argue I'm not trying to influence anyone to come out,

2017
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 4: before adding there's lots of other people in the soak

2018
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,760
Speaker 4: city at the end as the interview wrapped up, So

2019
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 4: because I'm not out here by my it's other people

2020
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 4: that did it talking about I don't see y'all talking

2021
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 4: to them on your TV show.

2022
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 7: They're not famous, like you, don't nobody care what they're doing.

2023
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, that is funny.

2024
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 6: Be kind?

2025
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 4: Okay of the viewer the segment left, some people are angry,

2026
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 4: flocking to Twitter to share reactions to her comments and

2027
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 4: praise the host for getting it the ship all right,

2028
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 4: Karen guessed the race of what is her name? Sharedan

2029
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 4: uhh shardan uh.

2030
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 7: More?

2031
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 4: Do Karen's going with the white Let's check the chat

2032
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 4: room see what they believe ultra white shit, unbelievable whiteness

2033
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 4: of being verified dumbass white.

2034
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 5: Where's yoga pants?

2035
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 4: Tollcituate her long flat back with a crack white uber

2036
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 4: white shit, added spread, added spread, a plague as business

2037
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 4: expense on an IRS sent her a check some heat

2038
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 4: heard emoji's white. I wasn't told I'm the manager, white troll.

2039
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't told by I am the manager. White troll

2040
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 4: Level thirteen. White white women have to follow the rules too,

2041
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 4: since when right she was getting there Leana dunamone, Okay, huh,

2042
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,799
Speaker 4: the correct answer is everyone got it correct.

2043
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 5: She is a white woman.

2044
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 4: Look at these snaps right eating eating a Bento box

2045
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 4: of burgers and like fried foods, beat side a pool

2046
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:38,439
Speaker 4: side in a bikini.

2047
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not gonna go yeah, like like yeah, and

2048
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:42,679
Speaker 7: it was a picture.

2049
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 5: Didn't have to put out lashat these two pictures of them.

2050
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 5: These white people were not amused. Holly looking like.

2051
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 7: I can't go nowhere, but you expect me to be

2052
01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 7: cool with this?

2053
01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 5: Look at Holly face.

2054
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 7: There was no she was not cackling that nothing, and feel.

2055
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 5: Like he was in mid yelling like what the fuck

2056
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 5: are you talking about?

2057
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,560
Speaker 4: That's her working out an apartment using a chair in

2058
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 4: a water bottle, Like I said, some shit you could

2059
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 4: have did over here a water bottle. She probably got

2060
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: out of that the cabinet. That's her on the beat

2061
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 4: on the at the pool. This her the night life.

2062
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: Oh this shiit, she gonna suck run and get it,

2063
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: trying to trying to be trying to be off fabulous

2064
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: and ship.

2065
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 5: Hot girl summer for her.

2066
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 6: Okay.

2067
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 5: That's her on the rooftop of so or something. Yeah,

2068
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 5: like pool rooftop.

2069
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 6: Or some ship.

2070
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, she was like, but other people here and there

2071
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 7: was like, we don't give a goddamn about them other people,

2072
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 7: don't you the one took this pic.

2073
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,840
Speaker 5: I still can't get over it. You shared this, like

2074
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 5: you you know, you don't.

2075
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 7: Have nobody you decided to post this.

2076
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 4: You can have the same belief system and not share

2077
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 4: this ship. Okay, all right, all right, let's go to

2078
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 4: the next one. But man, that was just why such

2079
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 4: a self owned.

2080
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 7: People do it all the time though, yeah, all the.

2081
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 4: Time, and you know what it's I'd be remiss not

2082
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,839
Speaker 4: to mention a lot of regular people are still traveling

2083
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 4: and doing shit, so you don't have to be an influence.

2084
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 5: Some people are not influencers. They just doing shit just today.

2085
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 4: I do think it's funny though, how that mental health

2086
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 4: shit was a catch all, because, like I said, we

2087
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 4: treat mental health is such a hard thing talking about

2088
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 4: because partially it's treated like a get out of jail

2089
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 4: free card. Yes, y'all, anything I want to do for

2090
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 4: my mental health has to be justified. It's like, well,

2091
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 4: other people struggle mental health, and still we know it's

2092
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 4: not safe to do what you just did. Correct doctors

2093
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 4: are advising against it, Like you know what else is

2094
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 4: bad for mental health? Getting COVID, spreading COVID. Like we

2095
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 4: are in a societal imperative moment right now. We need

2096
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 4: to sit the fuck down. Yeah I thought about that,

2097
01:37:56,040 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 4: but I just needed to trip, you know what I mean.

2098
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, okay, well, I guess if you just

2099
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 4: need to trip. You know, it's so funny to the

2100
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 4: watch people that have talked about being triggered, that talk

2101
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,639
Speaker 4: about like they talk bad about mental health, and people

2102
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 4: that talk about mental wellness beat us first. People that

2103
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 4: be like if I wear a mask, I ain't wanna

2104
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 4: lose you know, Like, okay, what you're having that ain't

2105
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 4: exactly a routine reaction to this shit.

2106
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 5: What about you?

2107
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

2108
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:29,799
Speaker 4: Like, what's going on with you that you think crying

2109
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 4: and calling this shit slavery?

2110
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 5: It means that that's a possive. That's a very healthy

2111
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 5: mindset to have. When someone asks you to wear a

2112
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 5: mask so.

2113
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: You don't die or kill other people, right to them,

2114
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 1: that's a valid response. This is not a valid response.

2115
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 4: But subconsciously they bought into the ship too. It's a

2116
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 4: get out of jail free card.

2117
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 5: I have feelings now. My feelings count more than everybody else.

2118
01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 4: A couple of arrested at the allegedly filming themselves having

2119
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 4: sex on a ferris wheel. No, South Carolina allegedly had

2120
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:03,640
Speaker 4: sex on the ferris wheel and they were arrested at

2121
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:06,560
Speaker 4: the Police foundal recording of the wild ride on a

2122
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 4: porn site.

2123
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 5: All about just saying this is what happened.

2124
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 4: When you get verified, right, come on, this is the

2125
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 4: America jail COVID wonts and you know what, there have.

2126
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 7: To be somebody jacking off to it going. Ain't that

2127
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 7: the convent cut right?

2128
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: Because people put chit on porn sites all the time.

2129
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: Somebody seen that it was like, I think I went

2130
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: to that festival last week.

2131
01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 7: Were they having sex up there?

2132
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2133
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 5: Who snitched?

2134
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 7: Somebody had to?

2135
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 5: Did you snitch? Because it was terrible, Like, well you

2136
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:38,640
Speaker 5: jacking off? You're like, I can't jack to this. This

2137
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 5: is terrible.

2138
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, these people can't even fuck. I'm calling

2139
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:42,839
Speaker 4: the goddamn FBI.

2140
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 6: They need to know.

2141
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,000
Speaker 5: Healthy service kind of talked to y'all for a second. Yeah,

2142
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 5: I wont facial recognition on both of these people, right.

2143
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,479
Speaker 4: Eric and Laurie Harmon, both thirty six, went for quite

2144
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 4: a spin while riding a glass gondola and one hundred

2145
01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,800
Speaker 4: and eighty seven feet in the air and the sky

2146
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 4: will and Motor Beach. Police said they found a video

2147
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 4: of the early January romp on popular porn sites. Another

2148
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,879
Speaker 4: clip allegedly showed a couple having sex in the community

2149
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 4: pool in Orie County and committed other lute acts last month.

2150
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 5: Oh, you never have sex in the pool. That's just

2151
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 5: discussed in pre rona come on many.

2152
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 4: In that incident, Laurie Harmon was also accused of urinating

2153
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 4: on two vending machines. What they was, you know what,

2154
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 4: I don't want the King Shane, but they definitely was

2155
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,679
Speaker 4: into some other ship machine dog.

2156
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 7: I mean, I just want to buy my chips. I

2157
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 7: don't need to know you, Karen.

2158
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:39,200
Speaker 4: You can piss on someone's car as long as you

2159
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,280
Speaker 4: are experiencing, you know, some some issue.

2160
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean if I mean, if you bought

2161
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: the vendor machine it's yours, that's a whole different store.

2162
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:48,839
Speaker 7: But this is a public vending machine.

2163
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 4: That's another thing too, Like how far the sex positivity go,

2164
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:55,719
Speaker 4: because you could argue that this was, you know, their kink.

2165
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 4: And I would argue if you piss on the public

2166
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,759
Speaker 4: vending machine and someone whooped your ass them was the breaks.

2167
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean, because they you know, they didn't sign up

2168
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: for it, like like like if they were in on it, cool.

2169
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: But if I'm just buying some doridos and I look

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01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: to the side and you're pissing, we might have we

2171
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: might have a conversation about this. I'm just saying, man,

2172
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: you're between the saw the machine and the snack machine.

2173
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 1: We might need to talk.

2174
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 5: This shit is not as black and white as people say.

2175
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 5: It's all I'm saying. It's funny to think about.

2176
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 4: If I'm in on it, cool, But if I am,

2177
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 4: you can't just walk up through me while I'm getting

2178
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 4: my lads and be like, the safe word is salt

2179
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 4: Vinega and.

2180
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 5: Then start pissing on the machine. He'll put this ball

2181
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 5: gag in. What, ma'am, I just want to get some hose, right,

2182
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 5: What is happening at this hotel?

2183
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 7: Like the safe word was that mountain? Dude you just purchased?

2184
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 7: You were like, I just I want a mountain. No, no, no, no,

2185
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 7: you bought the safe word the Frisky.

2186
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 4: The Frisky pair were arrested Saturday, each charger in dcent

2187
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:59,920
Speaker 4: exposure and participating in preparation of obscene material. Laurie was

2188
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 4: also charged a malicious injury to personal property. So that

2189
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 4: what you get for pissing on them? The drink venom shit.

2190
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 4: She was at least sundown eighteen thousand dollars bond, her

2191
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 4: husband's least the same day, fourteen thousand dollars bond.

2192
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 5: They had that money, all right. Karen guess the races

2193
01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 5: is too white. Karen thinks it's white people shit. All right,

2194
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,719
Speaker 5: let's go anything involving pissed. I'm going white white.

2195
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,799
Speaker 4: He'll billy humpers and as she as she flows white

2196
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 4: white shit.

2197
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 6: White?

2198
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 4: Did that pearl necklace. When your duck game, dick game isn't.

2199
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 5: Good enough on this song, got to go to six flags.

2200
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 4: White, Laurie not Harvey White, White, the Wild and Wonderful White,

2201
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 4: so West Virginia White.

2202
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:45,720
Speaker 5: They were COVID boy.

2203
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 4: White used the porn earring earnings to buy her triple

2204
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 4: Z tits White, you use it. I do feel like

2205
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 4: aggressive fake titties is a white porn thing.

2206
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

2207
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 4: The aggressive kind not just fake A lot of people have,

2208
01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 4: you know, but the aggressive like is how much?

2209
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 5: How did you get skinned to cover that titties? They

2210
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 5: feel like a white man thing like they are into that.

2211
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 5: Uh you spit for Lou White?

2212
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 4: Oh god, door Pito's white, door Pitos White. She will

2213
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 4: suck your dick for meuth White, Oh my god, uh

2214
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:31,880
Speaker 4: my hobby grass black. Okay, the correct answer is and

2215
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:46,840
Speaker 4: everyone said white and everyone you got it white? Oh

2216
01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 4: they did that, ship h unless you are married to

2217
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,879
Speaker 4: the gourmet goober, you know, in which case.

2218
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 7: You are wrong.

2219
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:58,640
Speaker 6: M h.

2220
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:15,240
Speaker 5: It looked like they would probably have some you know,

2221
01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 5: pretty good freaky white people's sex. You know, you hate

2222
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 5: that they you know that. It came down to all

2223
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 5: this but me too.

2224
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 1: I hope they wouldn't being too rough up there because

2225
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 1: they look like they do that sex well you like

2226
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 1: that is like that actually hurts?

2227
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:31,759
Speaker 5: Do people sign can sick forms?

2228
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Like?

2229
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 6: Come on?

2230
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I watched that point, I'd be like you

2231
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 1: just I mean, is you literally trying to just jack

2232
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: himmel hood to death? Like?

2233
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 7: What is happening here?

2234
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 5: I don't know why white Horn.

2235
01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: Is like that.

2236
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:45,080
Speaker 7: I've never understood that.

2237
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I like, I got a vagina

2238
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 1: and I'm like, uh my vagina don't want.

2239
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 7: To be beat to death. Yeah, it's very it's very

2240
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 7: like it's like right, it's like overly aggressive, like and

2241
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,639
Speaker 7: I can't explain it, and I'm like, what is happening here?

2242
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 6: Oh? Man?

2243
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to let's go to the bonus

2244
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 4: round of guess the race. Uh, let me go to

2245
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 4: my bonus round music.

2246
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:29,479
Speaker 5: It's the race, It's time, it's time, last one.

2247
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:33,240
Speaker 4: Let's see if Karen can complete the set and go

2248
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 4: a perfect three for three.

2249
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 5: Okay, she's two out of three.

2250
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 4: Of course, this is worth double the points, uh, double

2251
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 4: the racism in the bonus round. So you know, I

2252
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,200
Speaker 4: know your nerves are probably afraid here. You know, the

2253
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 4: chat room is, for the most part, is two for two,

2254
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 4: except for uh goamet Goober's husband, who for some reason decided,

2255
01:45:59,200 --> 01:46:01,600
Speaker 4: you know, he wanted to be the smartest man in

2256
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,759
Speaker 4: the world and be the only one to say black.

2257
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 4: And now look at you behind everybody hoping to get

2258
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 4: this last one correct.

2259
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 6: All right, here we go.

2260
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 3: Here is a story you just have to hear. Tonight,

2261
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 3: a teenage Kroger worker accused of scamming his employer out

2262
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 3: of nearly one million dollars, and Gwennett County Police say

2263
01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 3: it only took him two weeks to do it a

2264
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 3: lot it allowed to know her walks us through how

2265
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,000
Speaker 3: he did it and how he got caught.

2266
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 8: Gwennett County Police say that employee got away with stealing

2267
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 8: a lot of money from this Kroger into luth but

2268
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 8: says that's also what gave him away. Investigators say over

2269
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:40,680
Speaker 8: a two week period in December, Trey Brown stole more

2270
01:46:40,720 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 8: than nine hundred and eighty thousand dollars from Kroger. The

2271
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 8: way he did it, police say he created more than

2272
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 8: forty non existent returns ranging from seventy five dollars to

2273
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 8: eighty seven thousand dollars.

2274
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: Investigators believe, as of right now, that mister Brown used

2275
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:59,639
Speaker 2: the money that he stole to buy cars, clothing, shoes,

2276
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 2: and guns.

2277
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 8: A police report we obtained states Kroger's Loss Prevention found

2278
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 8: out Brown was allegedly using a lottery redemption code to

2279
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 8: type in the amount he wanted, then quote, the suspect

2280
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 8: will swipe his card and the money will deposit on

2281
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 8: to his debit card.

2282
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 2: The amount of money that mister Brown took was just

2283
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: excessive in this particular case, and obviously drew a large

2284
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: amount of attention to himself almost immediately, So it wasn't

2285
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 2: bi the crime of the century by any means as

2286
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:26,719
Speaker 2: far as being able to get.

2287
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 6: Away with it.

2288
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 8: Gwennette County Police say they arrested Brown outside of his

2289
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:33,040
Speaker 8: home last week and a large sum of money was returned.

2290
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,040
Speaker 8: Brown is charged with theft by taking. Kroger told me

2291
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 8: in a statement they are not commenting at this time

2292
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,760
Speaker 8: because this is an active investigation.

2293
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 3: You're gonna read more about how police say Brown pulled

2294
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 3: this off on eleven Alive dot Com.

2295
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,719
Speaker 5: All right, Karen, guess the race of Trey Brown.

2296
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,559
Speaker 7: I think Trey Brown is black.

2297
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,679
Speaker 5: Karen's going with the black. Okay, why'd you go with black?

2298
01:47:58,680 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 7: Not a smart not smart?

2299
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 5: Because oh okay, black people are stupid. The way he

2300
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 5: talked about the crime, dude was black. Theft by taking?

2301
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 5: Isn't it how it works? Yet as opposed to theft

2302
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 5: by giving, that's a well known trick.

2303
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 7: And his krogern i Harris Teeter.

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01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 5: Okay, I can see that. Uh he should have put

2305
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 5: that ship in big crime. Where are the racist thuf uh?

2306
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 4: Poor kpers like bubbles from the wire. Black tried to

2307
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 4: put the money in his baby's name.

2308
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 5: But didn't remember it.

2309
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 4: Black, Oh Joe Black, you got greedy young black white

2310
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:33,919
Speaker 4: man scam but black execution.

2311
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 5: Nigga, go bring me my switch so.

2312
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 4: I could whip your ass all of those publics in Georgia.

2313
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 4: And he had a krogus and bought Jay's nigga shit.

2314
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,520
Speaker 4: Nigga would nigga.

2315
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 5: Should had learned how to code first super predator.

2316
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 6: Black No, no.

2317
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 5: Super easy crime. Nigga could pull it off.

2318
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:59,040
Speaker 4: Oh God, standing up for our people in white acting

2319
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,600
Speaker 4: black black and the black Howard University student working at

2320
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 4: Kroger black devk card black ofc listen man I hope

2321
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:11,640
Speaker 4: y'all realize that when we start off the show and

2322
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:17,080
Speaker 4: we're like, look, man, sometimes these people are human, and

2323
01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 4: these these people make.

2324
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 5: Mistakes they they don't really mean.

2325
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 4: I hope you realize when y'all are looking all high

2326
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 4: and mighty by the time we get to guess the race,

2327
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 4: we're all in the pit with.

2328
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 5: These motherfuckers because y'all racist and shit. But y'all all right,

2329
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 5: he's black. Oh my god.

2330
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 4: Even Lena Dunham is bleshing it. The massas y'all, y'all

2331
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 4: niggas are super racist.

2332
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 5: Jesus Christ.

2333
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 4: Anyway, that's trade. Oh yeah, I honestly, you know, I

2334
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 4: give him a lot to respect.

2335
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 6: You know, j WILLI Smith.

2336
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 5: Y'all talking, But the only thing I'm listening is that pain.

2337
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:16,639
Speaker 5: Every day we getting set that paper, I had the money,

2338
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 5: talk to see it later. Every day we getting set

2339
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 5: that I had the money, talk to see you later.

2340
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:39,839
Speaker 5: I'm to be that enterprising at nineteen.

2341
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2342
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 7: That and obviously you don't know how accounting works.

2343
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 5: I mean, he was stealing. I mean, to have that

2344
01:50:47,120 --> 01:50:49,600
Speaker 5: much boldness. Yeah, you know, this.

2345
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 7: Whole ass department that actually checks this ship. Somebody was

2346
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 7: like the eighty seven thousand dollars.

2347
01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 6: Go what who?

2348
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 7: Because something that big you assuming that it's a company

2349
01:50:59,000 --> 01:50:59,599
Speaker 7: not a person.

2350
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 5: Oh man.

2351
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,640
Speaker 4: When I was his age, I was hiding portions of

2352
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 4: chicken sandwiches around Wendy.

2353
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:09,719
Speaker 7: Y'all ha ha, Okay, that was my thinking about stealing.

2354
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:11,799
Speaker 5: That was my heist. Okay.

2355
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 4: I was heisting spicy chicken sandwiches a quarter sandwich.

2356
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 7: At a time, y'all, y'all cut off in force.

2357
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 5: This nigga said, I want a million dollars.

2358
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:26,800
Speaker 4: Okay, if you dreaming, you can achieve it. The sky

2359
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:30,799
Speaker 4: is the limit. Oh my goodness, boy, that's a hmm.

2360
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 5: Hats off. I know it's fucked up, but hats off

2361
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 5: to him. He tried it right.

2362
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 1: And then the Kroger, I'm like, HOI, Croaker, that's how

2363
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:41,680
Speaker 1: you know they gonna catch it.

2364
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 5: Croker don't make that much money. Croger be doing that

2365
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 5: much business. They don't do that much.

2366
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Business in a year, right, They're like, no, bitch, that's

2367
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 1: too much money right now. If you just hit a

2368
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 1: Harris Teel or public or the marketplace, you'd have been like, oh.

2369
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 4: Okay, you can't pay with a twenty en Croger because

2370
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 4: they ain't got the change, you know, like they put

2371
01:52:04,040 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 4: that's what that's that's a grocery store where they used a.

2372
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 5: Pen on twenties.

2373
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 7: Like right, they get mad. You get him a twenty.

2374
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:15,120
Speaker 1: You can't get a million dollars from cro.

2375
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 6: Oh Man.

2376
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 7: The County Department be on top of that shit immediately.

2377
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 5: You love to see it.

2378
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 7: That was like we had a balance.

2379
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 5: Find out why you love to see it?

2380
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 6: Uh?

2381
01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,120
Speaker 4: Sord ratching. This woman charged for allegedly stabbing husband with sword.

2382
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 4: A woman is facing multiple felony charges for allegedly taking

2383
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 4: up a sword doing an argument with her husband, is

2384
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 4: slashing him with it several times.

2385
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,400
Speaker 5: Robert Joiner, thirty five of Detroit.

2386
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 4: Here we go, Uh, is recovering in a local hospital

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Speaker 4: with Ray NetTel Moore, forty four.

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Speaker 5: Oh, this sounds like a black couple of Detroit. She

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Speaker 5: is losed in jail. Oh he was thirty five and

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Speaker 5: she was forty four.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm, she like me young?

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Speaker 5: What in the Z and DAYA and John David Washington?

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Speaker 5: That's happening here?

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Speaker 7: I see Ah.

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Speaker 5: The incident occurred at six thirty am on Sunday. The

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Speaker 5: couples of the couple's home. Authorities to lead.

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Speaker 4: The couple was having a verbal argument when More allegedly

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Speaker 4: grabbed a sword and used to inflict several serious slashing

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Speaker 4: cuts on Joiner.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's uh, I guess you had that rapier wit.

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01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 5: That's me.

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Speaker 4: When police arrived on the scene, they found a Joiner

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01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,640
Speaker 4: lying on the living room floor, bleeding from cuts to

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Speaker 4: his left side and the back of his neck. A

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01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 4: bloody sword was found in the dining room. It was

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01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 4: confiscated by police. Joiner was transported to a hospital, while

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Speaker 4: More was arrested at the scene. Moore is charged with

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Speaker 4: the salt with intent to murder, assault with intent to

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Speaker 4: do great body, hard for loneous assault, and aggravated assault.

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Speaker 4: The release said her bond is set at what men

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Speaker 4: dollars cash More's probable calls here to set at eight

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Speaker 4: thirty am Wednesday, February third. Shout out to ms Smart's hometown. Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's how it goes down in the Apparently it's so

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01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 4: cold in the D and H and also very sharpened

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Speaker 4: the d apparently for me. All right, y'all, that's it

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Speaker 4: for today's episode. We didn't cover a lot of shit,

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Speaker 4: and we had a very murky conversation about mental health

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01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:20,280
Speaker 4: and mental illness. Just to summarize it, I just want

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01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 4: to say at the end of this episode so that

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Speaker 4: people completely understand what I'm saying, everybody that is involved

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01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 4: in the White House shit, the capital and white supremacy,

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01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 4: all of them are attracted to white supremacy period.

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01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 7: That's why they showed up.

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01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 4: And there can be no quarter given to white supremacists. Understand,

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Speaker 4: some of them arrived there in different ways. They did

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01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,240
Speaker 4: not everyone took the same car, you know what I'm saying.

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01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 4: Some people have other issues that are attracted to grandiose

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01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 4: people like Trump, like cold figure and some and some don't.

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Speaker 4: But just understand that when we start asking trying to

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Speaker 4: answer that murky ass question, that's why it get murky

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01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 4: because everyone's not there of the of the same and

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01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 4: not everyone took the same route.

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Speaker 6: To get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there were some people that were supporting them

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01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 1: that were not there. You know, they don't wear the

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01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,360
Speaker 1: red head and we talked about this before, but a

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01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 1: lot of people miss they don't wear the red hats.

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01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: They're not in the street, they're not vocal or any

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01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: of that shit. Some of your co works and people

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Speaker 1: that you voted with.

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:34,000
Speaker 7: That actually voted for him. We turn around and tell

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01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 7: you how Trump was a bad person, but.

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Speaker 4: They still believe as black people, I say, we protect ourselves,

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01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 4: and I know how I feel personally.

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Speaker 5: I don't have time to quibble with you over what

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01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 5: it was like.

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Speaker 4: You will never catch me even having a discussion about

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01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 4: you know, the shit like what's because at the end

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Speaker 4: of the day, I'm not gonna front I don't have

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Speaker 4: much of a difference, Like, Okay, you got there because

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01:55:57,200 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 4: you had some other issues, and you got there because

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01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 4: you fucking just hate niggas.

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Speaker 5: Do I won't either you in my house. No, no,

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01:56:06,120 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 5: No one gets to come in the house, no one.

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01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 5: Everyone stays outside.

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01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just want to make sure because I

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01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 4: know somebody's probably trying to email us right now because

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Speaker 4: we're just talking and we're not psychologists or you know,

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01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 4: they we didn't follow the rules of all the shit

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:24,720
Speaker 4: you're supposed to, but save the email, because it's it's like, honestly,

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01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 4: we're just giving our honest opinions and trying to be

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01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 4: as sensitive as possible, as positive as possible, but you know,

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01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 4: trying to be as real as possible to It's there's

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01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 4: a lot of moving parts. When it comes to mental

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01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 4: health and social media, it's white supremacy and.

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Speaker 5: All this, and it's not simple.

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Speaker 7: It's a lot of grayer.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully y'all understood what the fuck was trying to relay,

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01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 4: you know, and if not, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: See you tomorrow, don't see you tomorrow, talk to you then.

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Speaker 5: Until then, I love you.

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Speaker 6: Wo