1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Had of Money. I'm Joel, I'm Matt, and 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: today we're talking career cushioning AI at the Warehouse Club 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: and overdraft fee elimination. 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: AI in the Warehouse Club almost sounds like a song. 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Everybody in the club, in the in the club. It's 6 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: not TI in the Club. That's a completely different kind 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: of club, much less entertaining. 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Typic Club the only fancy club I remember of Welcome 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: to episode and seventy seven. 10 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: I feel like if this was a slot machine, man, 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: you'd be getting the big bucks with this episode. But 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: this is a Friday flight, and we're going to talk 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: about this story the most interesting personal finance stories that 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: we've come across from this past week. 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so before we get to that, and this 16 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: is actually kind of timely, Matt, I'm sure a lot 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: of people signed up for Peacock literally just to watch 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the Big Game was the last weekend this past weekend, 19 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: Kansas City versus Miami Dolphins. I know you're not super 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: into sports, the Big Game. I actually I honestly rarely 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: watched sports too. Did you pull it up? I did 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: pull it up. I watched it. My father in law 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: is a massive Chiefs fan. Okay, And I was also like, one, 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: what was it looked like to play football in negative 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: twenty five degrees. I'm just a little curious. 26 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: I thought they I thought they postponed the game that 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: was a different one, that was the Bills game. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Okay, because the snow. I saw the stories about this. Yeah, yeah, 29 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: there wasn't. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: They can get enough folks working twenty dollars an. 31 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: Hour or I saw that they up there paid at 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: least from last year yea to fifteen bucks. You could 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: not pay me fifteen bucks an hour to shovel snow. 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: And buffalo to r I saw. 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: I just saw one guy with his shirt off sliding 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: down the snow. 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: Shoot. 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you. 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Get people with your shirts off it in Kansas City too, which. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: Is just the thing that they do. 41 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: I don't think. 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: So, oh yeah, that's a great reminder to cancel that membership. 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Similarly, you might have signed up for the one game 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: maybe like there's nothing else, Like, you don't want to 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: get hit with that charge once it comes around here 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: it's four ninety nine a month. 47 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: But well, I was gonna say the same thing is 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: true if you sign up for a prime membership, Because 49 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: I think around the holidays, a lot of folks do 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: that and they're like, oh, maybe no, it's a good 51 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: time to check out that thirty day free trial and 52 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 2: guess what you're coming up on the end of that 53 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: thirty days. We always do have Amazon Prime typically, but 54 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: it's under Kate's name, under her email address, and around Christmas, 55 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 2: I want to make sure that she isn't seeing those 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: orders go through, so I always sign up for my 57 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: own Prime account there before the holidays. That way, I'm 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: able to place my own orders that way. 59 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: So you just pay an extra thirteen bucks and you 60 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: get the one month membership for it's free like it's 61 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: a free typically it's a free thirty day. 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Trial every year, though I don't know about years past, 63 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: but I canceled it, so it was on the calendar 64 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: for this past Monday. So on Monday I canceled it. 65 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: You guys said that came on the calendar. It's that 66 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: way you don't lose sight of those different memberships. 67 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: Just put it on there ahead of time. The other 68 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: thing you can do is right when you sign up 69 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: for the thing, literally cancel it immediately because you still 70 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: get the free seven days or free thirty days or 71 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: whatever it is you do. Yeah, just make sure that 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: that's the case. But it'll say like, oh, okay, cool, 73 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: this will we won't charge you any recurrent, like you'll 74 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: be done thirty days from now. So unless they're like, 75 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: all right, that's the end of your service, and then 76 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: you're like. 77 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh, no, shot, yeah, and then you go to sign 78 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: up again and they're like, I'm sorry, you've already tried 79 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: your free trial. 80 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, just make sure when you're canceling on the day 81 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: you sign up that that's what it says, because sometimes 82 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: they will say, great, we're eliminating your service now, just 83 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: depends on the provider. 84 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: Suck it, Joel, those jerks. 85 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, let's move on to the Friday flight 86 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: the sampling of stories we found interesting this week, and 87 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: this just kind of stuck out to me because there's 88 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: like a qutt term name for everything. Now. Remember we've 89 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: talked about cash stuffing, which is really just the envelope 90 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: system that's been around for a long time, just with 91 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: a cute new word attached to it or a phrase. 92 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: And so apparently there's a new trend now called career cushioning, 93 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's really just something that's been around for a 94 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: whole bunch of years, but also with a cute new name. 95 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, career cushioning is is just smart. It's just 96 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: like basic intelligence essentially when it comes to navigating your 97 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: career and planning for contingencies. Right, It's something we've talked 98 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: about regularly over the years. This trend is something that 99 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: we think should be an ongoing reality for anyone in 100 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: the workforce. So what is career cushioning and how do 101 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: you cushion your career? Well, there are a few aspects 102 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: to this. 103 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: One. 104 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: Save more money, right, The bigger the emergency fund. The 105 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: more money you have in savings, the less harsh a 106 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: layoff becomes for you. Now, we've talked about this before. 107 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: Friends or family members who get laid off and they 108 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: just don't have much in savings, they feel compelled to 109 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: take the first job off or that comes along, even 110 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: if it kind of hamstrings their career or means less 111 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: money's right. Two networking, right, digging the well before you're thirsty, 112 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: as we say all the time here. Staying in contact 113 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: with others in your industry regularly via email, text, coffee, date, 114 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. That is a huge part of career success, 115 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: like the numbers don't lie. Networking at who you know 116 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: and maintaining those relationships matters. In a baga, we talked 117 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: about calendar reminders. Set a calendar reminder for every Monday 118 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: or two day morning or something like that. At nine thirty, 119 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: send an email or a text following up out to 120 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: a person, coworker perhaps maybe an old old boss. 121 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: The coffee dates slash drinks with friends. I'm sure this 122 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: is your favorite aspect of career cushions. I like so yeah, 123 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: I like people folks always and so. But even if 124 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: it's just a quick text or an email, it'll take 125 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: three or four minutes. But doing that once a week, 126 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 2: making it a habit will help you when it comes 127 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: to Hey, you never know, maybe there's a job that 128 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: that isn't even listed that you are a great, highly 129 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: qualified for and just because you've maintained those relationships, you 130 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: get the offer, you get the call, and three continuous 131 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: learning right, boosting your skills on the rag. And we're 132 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: not saying that there's going to be like some sort 133 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: of recession or massive uptick in layoffs in twenty twenty four. 134 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: I mean that could happen, but no matter of the 135 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: macro environment. Career cushioning is just common sense. Yeah, regardless 136 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: of what's going on in the economy. And by the way, 137 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: we've talked about this before, actually just last week for 138 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 2: a second, even, but new data finds that remote workers 139 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: are actually missing out on promotions. It's not just anecdotes 140 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: and claims from managers and CEOs anymore that are getting 141 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 2: quoted in these articles, but actual data. And here's a quote. 142 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: Over the past year, remote workers were promoted thirty one 143 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: percent less frequently than folks who worked in an office, 144 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: either full time or on a hybrid basis. So even 145 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: just showing up a little bit helps significantly. And this 146 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: is known as proximity bias. But it's an understandable human reality. 147 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: If you're seeing and folks see, it's like, all right, 148 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: you care about what you see, what's there in front 149 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: of you. 150 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: It's a classic out of sight, out of mind too, right, Yeah, 151 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: that's the yeah, that's I'll say in the converse of 152 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: of what else trying to remember. 153 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: I don't see you. 154 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I love you, I think, is what you were trying 155 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: to say. 156 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: But if you work from home full time, just be 157 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: aware of this reality because the truth is being able 158 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: to work from home and potentially call hours of your 159 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: life back every single day. That actually might be worth 160 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: this trade off, but it might not. And so it 161 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: just depends on what you want your life to look like, 162 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: and it depends on where you're at in your career. 163 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: But these are important facts to have on hand when 164 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: making decision. I think a lot of folks might even 165 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: be confused because they're thinking, Man, for the past four years, 166 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: I've been working from home this entire time. In fact, 167 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 2: I've been There's some twenty five year olds out there 168 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: who have graduated from college and they've never actually had 169 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: to go into the office, and they're thinking, what is 170 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: this new reality that you're thrusting and this responsibility that 171 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: you're making me follow. 172 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: And the fact is, man like back. 173 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: During the lockdowns, that was like a very unique special 174 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: point in time that was not normal, and that is 175 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: just no longer the reality, and we're slowly reverting back 176 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: to whether you like it or not, I'm not making 177 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: a case for or against it, but regardless, we're moving 178 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: back to how life used to be. When it comes 179 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: to the work environments and what's expected from Roboss's that's. 180 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: Kind of true. 181 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I think hybrid work is still like would not be 182 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: where it is today if it weren't for the pandemic. 183 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of those kind of 184 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: flex working conditions are great for a lot of employees 185 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: and employers. The thing is, if you're all work from home, 186 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: I think those are the people who move out the most. 187 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Even if you're just in two days a week office, 188 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: two days a week, that can drastically improve your chances 189 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: at promotions and raises. And again, like you said, Matt, 190 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: some people say. 191 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm just waiting on the study though for the five 192 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: days a week in person versus the two days away, 193 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm sure those numbers will will surface. 194 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: You maybe, but I think as long as you're in 195 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: there at least some you get some FaceTime. Absolutely that matters. 196 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: A great deal that has definitely been proven it. Yeah, 197 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: and there's trade offs to everything, and you might say 198 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. I get paid enough, I like 199 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: my job, and you know what, Commuting is the worst, 200 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and you're not wrong about that. Commuting is terrible. So 201 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: just you got to know the trade offs though involved, 202 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: And maybe you're at the point in your career where 203 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: full time work from home makes sense because you're not 204 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: looking to grow in the same way that maybe somebody 205 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: who's earlier on in the career is. Right. All right, now, 206 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: let's get to warehouse club news. My favorite car talking 207 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: about the club time. So Sam's Club has announced that 208 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: they're going to stop checking your receipt on the way 209 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: out the door. And basically you walk out and there's 210 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I guess a new fangled video sort of contraption that's 211 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: checking instead of a human, you know, with the sharpie 212 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: marking through your receipt. Like, I haven't been to sam 213 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Club in a minute, but that's what happens at Costco, right, 214 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: and this is now one of my favorite use cases 215 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: for AI. There's all this talk about it ruining society 216 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: or you know, massive job loss and upheaval. I don't 217 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: necessarily think that's going to be the case, but this, 218 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: this is where AI is going to shine. Right that 219 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to wait talk to a human, You 220 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: get your receipt marked through on the way. 221 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: You don't even have to talk to him. It's just like, 222 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: my biggest annoyance is the. 223 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Fact that those smiley faces. For my it's the smiley face. 224 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know so listeners. The costcos that are 225 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: near you, I'm not sure what they do. But at hours, 226 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: the one that Joe and I go to, there's all 227 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: this one guy in particular, he really takes his time 228 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: with it. And the first time that he does that 229 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: and hands it to the kids, it's a delight. You know, 230 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: the kids love it, everyone's happy. Costco is the best. 231 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: But you know what, after a few months ago in there, 232 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: you just want him just to mark the receipt. 233 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: You want to walk out the door. The twenty six 234 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: smiley faces less well. 235 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: And it slows things down a lot too. There's always 236 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: a line there, and don't you just want to move 237 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: on out the store. I'm just making a great case 238 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: here for Aldi. That's what's so great about Aldie. You 239 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: pull up, you're running like literally, I'm gone in sixty seconds. 240 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: It's like Nick Cage. 241 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: I guess I'm just going in there. I'm grabbing some milk, 242 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm grabbing some eggs. 243 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: Are you driving eleanor nothing? Else's cars? 244 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: Was it a Shelby listed right? 245 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 2: But you can't get that kind of speed when if 246 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: you're looking at a swinging by the cost it takes 247 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: sixty seconds, even just like pulling at the parking. I mean, 248 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: come on, I think the whole the real doesn't have samples. 249 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: And that's something that's the kids always love. 250 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: Ye I'll say that. 251 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: I think the main reason that the warehouse clubs say 252 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: that they check your receipt is to make sure in okay, 253 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: you forgot something like, for instance, if you bought the 254 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: movie tickets and you forgot to redeem them at the counter, right, 255 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: they'll send you back and be like, oh, go get 256 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: your movie tickets. 257 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: And that actually happened to didn't happen one time to 258 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: Emily like she was they rang her up for three 259 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: of gift cards. Yeah, they over rang and and they're like, actually, 260 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: where's your third one? And she said, oh no, I've 261 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: only had two, yeah or something. So that happens on occasion. 262 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: I think it's also to prevent theft, to prevent shrinkings. Yeah, 263 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 2: that's a huge part of it, exactly. 264 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: But if AI can solve this problem at all on board, dude, 265 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: that's great, that's great. Make your warehouse exit warehouse club 266 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: exit just a little bit quicker. And let's hope, let's 267 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: hope Costco follow suit because I think Sam Swech's gonna 268 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: get some fans for this absolutely. 269 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: Let's talk about well, speaking of cars, let's talk about 270 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: the FCC because they announced a new rule last month 271 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: that goes under the cute acronym CARS, which stands for 272 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: Combating Auto Retail Scams. And the main goal of this 273 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: new rule is to tamp down on bait and switch tactics. 274 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: From the spokesperson for this. 275 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 2: Car is the actual show like bottom of mind, Like 276 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 2: if you are going to buy a vehicle and they 277 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: kind of get you in the door, they get you 278 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: in the lot with you know, they're like, oh, what, 279 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: I don't know, nineteen ninety nine, ninety eight or whatever 280 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,239 Speaker 2: it is that they say on the on the commercials, 281 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: but then at the last second they're like, oh, actually 282 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: the reality, Yeah, but we've got this here for you. 283 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: And in fact, there are some other junk fees that 284 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 2: they kind of throw on you. It surprises consumers. So 285 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: basically we're talking about just all of the random fees 286 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: that you see from the finance person and at the 287 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: end of the transaction, they're going to need to be 288 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: presented earlier in the process. They can't hold the drive 289 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: it off the lot price until the very last minute, 290 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: and there's estimates that this is going to save consumers 291 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: big chunks of time and money. But I think like 292 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: with any yeah, and I get that, but with any 293 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: regulation or any new rule or anything that you are 294 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: requiring businesses or industries to do, I think there are 295 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: oftentimes unexpected effects of that, and it could even backfire. 296 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: It just makes me. 297 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: A friend of ours is thinking about opening he's an 298 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: optometrist ophthalmologist, and he wants to open a practice that 299 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 2: doesn't deal with insurance because there is so much that 300 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: goes into dealing with bureaucracy and the paperwork and all 301 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: that comes with accepting non cash payments basically, and so 302 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: the requirement of car dealerships having to abye by something 303 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: like this, it could backfire. 304 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 3: Hopefully it doesn't, right, Hopefully. Yes, there's a. 305 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Uniform almost like a truth and lending statement, right, or 306 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: like a loan application, not a loan apption, but like 307 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: when you are buying a home and you've got all 308 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: the numbers in its uniform across no matter who you 309 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: apply for when it comes to getting a mortgage. That 310 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: way you can see and compare apples to apples. 311 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Yep, No, I mean, at least the more transparent transparency 312 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: is really the best thing here for consumers. Dealers are 313 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: going to have to disclose though, when additional items like 314 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: warranties are mandatory or not, cause that can be confusing forgot, 315 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: and this goes back to transparency if they're forced to 316 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: be transparent about oh, well, we've got this on here, 317 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: but no, you are allowed to take it off. This 318 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: isn't a necessary or a necessity or must have. 319 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,359 Speaker 2: Or like the intro or the warranties that are duplicates 320 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: of an existing car manufacture warranty and it's like, oh no, no, 321 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: this is the dealership warranty. It's like, oh, well, if 322 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: you didn't know to ask whether or not that was 323 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: necessary or whether or not you were already paying for that. Yeah, 324 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: and that's something they could have slapped on there. 325 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the pricing and the add ons 326 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to like when it comes to buying 327 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: a home and buying a car, those are the things 328 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: that confuse consumers regularly. And so yeah, this is this 329 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: new rule is supposed to go into effect the summer, 330 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: and I think it is like going to help some 331 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: consumers and benefit some of the dealerships who operate with integrity. 332 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: But there's also some of the eye of the beholder 333 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: element to this rule, right like, our advice would be 334 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: to do business with reputable car dealers no matter what 335 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: the buy here, pay here lots. Stay away from those 336 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: those have a bad reputation and it's well earned most 337 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: of the time. Always try and pay cash right, ideally 338 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: for a used vehicle, so you're not the one taking 339 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: the biggest appreciation hit. But if you do need to finance, 340 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: make sure that you've checked with your local credit union. 341 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: Right is you're likely to get the best loan there 342 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to getting the loan at the. 343 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: Car out and no most likely less trickery going on 344 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: at your at the credit friendly local credit union typical, right. 345 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: And no matter what, always always get your used car 346 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: checked out by a mechanic that you trust. That is 347 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: the biggest place that people get snake bit is buying 348 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: something that has problem after problem because they didn't spend 349 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the time and typically the money a hundred bucks or 350 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: something like that to have their trusted mechanic do a 351 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: thorough inspection of that vehicle before they make the purchase. So, yeah, 352 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: is this new Car's Act is going to make a 353 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: big difference when it comes to to folks car buying 354 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: this summer. Once it gets implemented, maybe it really might. 355 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Like you said, Matt, how things are overseen from a 356 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: regulator perspective is going to make all the difference and 357 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: the biggest thing people have to look out for themselves. 358 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: And hopefully this brings some transparency, some clarity of the process. 359 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: But no matter what, buyer beware, that's right. 360 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: And speaking of buying expensive items, you're talking about cars 361 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: here we will talk about a new rule that might 362 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: make it easier for you to buy a home. 363 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: We'll get to that, plus other. 364 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: Great personal finance stories right after this. 365 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, we're back. Friday flight continues, and of 366 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: course we've got to bring it our ludicrous headline of 367 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: the week. This one comes from the Wall Street Journal 368 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: and it says more people are selling their clothes online. 369 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: Governments want their cut and this is PRIs surprise. Is 370 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: something actually happening across the pond in the UK. But 371 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: it's interesting. It's not too far off from the IRS 372 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: reporting requirements on the payment apps like Venmo. They keep 373 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: getting punted down the road. Sounds oddly familiar. Yeah, we've 374 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: talked about those multiple times, how onerous those would be, 375 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: because and it's really good news that those requirements do 376 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: get keep getting punted down the road because just kind 377 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: of splitting up the paycheck a few times over the 378 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: year with your friends at dinner, well, that could lead 379 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: to an unexpected tax bill that then you have to fight. 380 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: And basically in this article, the UK Tax Authority wants 381 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: online resale marketplaces to report anyone who sells more than 382 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: one thousand pounds worth of goods. Pounds, by the way, 383 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: is the UK equivalent number of dollar, So that like 384 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: half of a ton of stuff, right, exactly, and depending 385 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: on the day, that's something like twelve hundred bucks in sales. 386 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: Right. 387 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: What is the British tax authority called? Is it like 388 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 2: the Ministry of Tax? That's what that sounds, right? 389 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: And I am all Matt, You and I are both 390 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: all about paying the taxes that we owe. Sure, but 391 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: this and that six hundred dollars reporting requirement in the 392 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: US that again keeps getting put further and further away, 393 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: just feels silly and burdensome. Are there not a million 394 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: other avenues in both countries? The UK and the United 395 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: States that would create higher rates of compliance on the 396 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: tax front, and specifically for folks who owe more than 397 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: just a couple hundred bucks for selling old jeans, T 398 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: shirts and hoodies. 399 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: Like, does seem silly? 400 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: It feels like we're tasting after the wrong thing here. 401 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it also just kills the 402 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 2: motivation somebody might have to unload a bunch of stuff 403 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: that they no longer want, right like, Because if on 404 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: one hand, you have the ability to maybe use this 405 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: easy to use app, and guess what, there are a 406 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: lot of folks on this app using this thing trying 407 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 2: to find the stuff that you're trying to get rid of, 408 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 2: I feel like it could hinder the starting of new 409 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: businesses as well, because if folks are like, man, there's 410 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: so many different like bars I have to clear in 411 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 2: order to kind of like run a proper operation here, 412 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: I think it could lead to folks saying, well, man, 413 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with that, yeah at all, 414 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stick with my standard job. I'm gonna 415 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: throw all my stuff away. Hopefully you're at least donating it. 416 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: And there's a whole lot of people who sell something 417 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: like a thousand bucks. It's not even a small business. 418 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: It's literally just clear not stuff from their home. Yes, yeah, exactly, 419 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: and they'll make a thousand and fifteen hundred two grand 420 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: in a year. And should you have to pay tax 421 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: on selling stuff that you're you know, from your house 422 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: that you don't longer want. 423 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 424 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 2: It seems seems crazy, all right. There was a recent 425 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: Vox article titled you don't need everything you want. This 426 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: is like the opposite of a ludicrous headline of the 427 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: week because we actually totally agree with this article. It's 428 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: something I think we all intuitively know right that there 429 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: is a difference between needs and wants. But we also 430 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: live in the richest country and the history of civilization, 431 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: and it's really easy to lose touch with reality about 432 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: what purchases are essential which ones are just desires. Here's 433 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 2: one of the lines that writer Emily Stewart wrote in 434 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: this piece. 435 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 3: She said, if you. 436 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: Took a European vocation this year, what a delight. Also 437 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 2: it was a privilege, not a rite, And we couldn't 438 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: agree more. You know that we're all about ballance here 439 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: on the show, and we want you to enjoy some 440 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: of the different once some of the other luxuries there 441 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: in life equivalence, yes, but while purposely saving and investing 442 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: regularly and personally. This is I think one of the 443 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: reasons I'm so hesitant to like introduce new expenses into 444 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: my life is because I know my tendency, which is, 445 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: once you experience something, I think it can be. So 446 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: it's a slippery slope to start saying, oh, man, if 447 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: I'm enjoying that that much, just with a little bit, 448 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: why am I make that something that I regularly incorporated 449 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 2: into my life? And then all of a sudden, it's 450 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: just something you can't live without. And then you're like 451 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: the French philosopher, don't know. Yes, I was gonna say that, 452 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: I was gonna talk about the hedonic treadmill, because you've 453 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 2: got that. It's just something that you have to maintain 454 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: just to keep like the bare minimum or look like 455 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: whatever is your standard level of happiness. 456 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you wear in velvet every day, 457 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: even caviar every night, like that becomes a problem real quick. 458 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: And I think I'm wearing a cashmere sweater today, so luxurious, 459 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: so soft against my stia. Everyone knows like this is 460 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: like so simplistic, so rudimentary. Everyone knows, yes, of course 461 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: there's differences between. It's like Maslow's hierarchy of needs. But 462 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: that I think this is why it's so crucial to 463 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: keep our expectations in check, because it's so much easier 464 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: said than done when we start to assume that certain 465 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: expenses are this god given right. That makes it more 466 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: difficult for us, I think, to cut back on that 467 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: spending if the price goes up or if our incomes 468 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: goes down, because then it's like, well, this is just 469 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: like this is what I'm owed, I'm treating myself to you, 470 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: even you don't even really think of it in terms 471 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: of treating yourself anymore. It's just that this is the 472 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: standard that you don't go but I do, yeah, exactly. 473 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: And so I think the more that we can keep 474 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: those proverbial goalposts from moving, the less inclined will feel 475 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: to make purchases out of a sense of entitlement, and 476 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: the more money will be able to funnel towards reaching 477 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: greater levels of financial independence. So it's a good idea 478 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: to start asking yourself the question, what am I treating 479 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: like a need that's actually just a want? And if 480 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: it's moving the needle for your happiness in a significant way. 481 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: That's great, awesome, Like, go for it. Yeah, keep spending 482 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: money in that direction. But if it's not, consider acting 483 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: it from your life. I do think, Matt, there are 484 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: these things you're right, like, we start to pick up 485 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: new expenses because we just get used to inflating our 486 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: lifestyle and again purposely inflating your lifestyle on certain things. 487 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with it, it's but it is when we 488 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: take that I think mindset that like, oh, this is 489 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: a need even though it is just to want, we 490 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: can form an incorrect relationship to that expense. 491 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: Totally. 492 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to 493 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: just being honest with ourselves, and so often not that 494 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: not we just fool ourselves into thinking that something actually 495 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: is a necessity. But like, come on, let's let's be real. 496 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: And you're talking about like acting things from our lives 497 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: or from our budgets, I think it can be really 498 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 2: difficult to look, like, item by item at some of 499 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: the different things that we might remove from our lives. 500 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: And it reminds me of our conversation with Liz Chai 501 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: where a few weeks ago and she basically the episode 502 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 2: was buying essentially nothing for a year and with the 503 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: title over Boats the tyle over Book. When we talked 504 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: with her, we asked why it is that she went 505 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: this route, and she found that to do something that 506 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: extreme was what it took to register like in her 507 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: mind that she was living a different life as opposed 508 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: to like a small change. Well, it's easy to fall 509 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: off the wagon if you're just doing making some of 510 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: these small tweaks, and so I think a lot of 511 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: it comes down to the individual and knowing yourself. But 512 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: I totally get that premise right, Like it makes me 513 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: think of somebody who's trying to get fit and they're like, 514 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: maybe I'll just go I'll go for a jog around 515 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 2: the neighborhood. It's tough to like subscribe to that as 516 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: a workout plan versus saying I'm gonna ahead and sign 517 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: up for a ten k oh ohoh okay all of 518 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: a sudden, A ten k that's like as serious. That 519 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: means I'm gonna need to start putting together a plan. 520 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: And similarly, when it comes to our budgets, whether it's 521 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: something as extreme is saying I'm not gonna buy anything 522 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: for a year or even instead of trying to whittle 523 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: your budget down like lighting it on fire, like burning 524 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: it down, starting from scratch, building it up from the 525 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: ground up, and all of a sudden, you're questioning every 526 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: single thing rather than just making assumptions that, oh, this 527 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: is something I've got to keep around because well you know, 528 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: well why like you know why, like what's the actual 529 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 2: reason and what are your other I think it prevents 530 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: us from achieving maybe some of those bigger goals we 531 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: might implement if we did weren't spending so much on 532 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: other things. 533 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Totally agree, we might have the ability to say, wait 534 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: a second, I could reach full financial independence earlier, or wait, 535 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: even more than that, I could take that sabbatical that 536 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: I've wanted to take, or I could switch careers because 537 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: my savings rate could be higher than it is. 538 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 2: And it just like you just have less stress in 539 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: our lives because we've got so much more financial margin. 540 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like this extreme thing, but 541 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: like that looks like something big on the outside, but 542 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: even for you internally from a psychological standpoint, emotionally, it 543 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: could make a massive difference. 544 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And so much comes down to just 545 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: our misperception of once versus needs and again we know 546 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: it down like this intuitive human level, but we act 547 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: differently in our daily lives. Let's talk about bank fees 548 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: for a second, Matt. The Consumer Financial Production Bureau overall 549 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: a fantastic organization at CFPB. 550 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: Great folks. 551 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: We interviewed the original director of the CFPB, Richard Cordery, 552 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: back in the day. Awesome dude, love his mission and 553 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: he's doing something else now. I forget what his job is. 554 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: But the CFPB wants to reduce ober draft fees. This 555 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: is kind of something new that they're tackling. There's just 556 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: a proposal right now, but they want to take the 557 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: average overdraft fee from somewhere in the thirty dollars range 558 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: to somewhere in the three to fourteen dollar range. They're 559 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, well, what should overdraft fees actually be? 560 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: How high should they be? That would represent a significant 561 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: savings for people every time they overdraw their account. And 562 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: let's be honest, Matt, the feasts currently being charged by 563 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: many banks across the country are not reflective of the 564 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: actual costs incurred when a customer does overdraw their account. 565 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't actually cost the bank thirty five bucks. 566 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: This is just a massive profit center for many of them. 567 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: Yes to the two of billions and billions of dollars. 568 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: I remember there was one ceo at one point who 569 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: named a boat that he bought overdraft because that's how 570 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: it was paid for those That's so gross, it's ridiculous. 571 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: It feels so predatory and nasty, and like, how did 572 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: that boat not get sunk? Right exactly? 573 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: You know, you name it that you're like taking for 574 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: someone to light it on fire. 575 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like putting that on your vanity on your car, 576 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: like you're just asking for your car to get completely 577 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 2: keyed or having your tire selided. 578 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true, and these fees often stack up. 579 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Some banks even would put them in the incorrect order 580 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: to maximize overdraft fees. It's ridiculous. They harm Americans in particular, 581 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: who are already living on the financial precipice. And I 582 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: wasn't really shocked, Matt to see the banks defending these 583 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: exorbitant overdraft fees, but I was actually kind of surprised 584 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: to see the guy who is the CEO of America's 585 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: credit unions say that implementing this rule would harm consumers 586 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: that reducing over draftees would be harmful to every day Americans. 587 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: Like, come on, there's an argument that, oh, this allows 588 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: folks to pay their bills, but we're gonna charge you 589 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: for it. But like, this just lowers the feed is 590 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: I don't understand his argument because it's not like we're 591 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: talking about getting rid of that altogether. We're just talking 592 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: about lowering the fees, so it's still going to be available. 593 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, how does this compute? Yeah, no, it doesn't. 594 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 3: It doesn't. 595 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: And so like why you and I we did credit 596 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: unions many of them still charge ridiculous overdraft fees too. 597 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: It's not just the banks, some of the credit unions 598 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: also partake in this behavior, which is not okay. But 599 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: at the same time, do we need the CFPB to 600 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: come in and fix this? That's a good question. It 601 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: seems like the trend towards eliminating over draft fees is 602 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: already in full swing. Is something we've been talking about. 603 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, this rule, it feels like it like it's happening 604 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: years after it could have actually had a real impact. 605 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe go back to like twenty ten. 606 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: You do it then exactly like right after the housing crises, 607 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: the facts on the ground show that many banks have 608 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: been eliminating over draft fees altogether on their own, and 609 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 2: that consumers actually have a lot of choice on where 610 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: it is that they choose the choose to do their banking. 611 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: The CFPP they literally published something last fall documenting the 612 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: dramatic decline in non sufficient funds being charged by banks. 613 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: They just highlighted the billions of dollars that consumers have 614 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 2: actually been able to save. 615 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: Feels like published in October, and they're basically saying, Hey, 616 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: everything's moving in the right direction. And now they're saying, 617 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: wait a second, now we need to get involved in it. 618 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: Crackdown. 619 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: It's them justifying their job. It's like busy work. It's 620 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: kind of what it feels they've done it. But the 621 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 2: banks that we mentioned we regularly here on the show, 622 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 2: they don't charge crappy fees like that. 623 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: We've talked about how ally. 624 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: They eliminated them during back during the pandemic felt like 625 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,239 Speaker 2: a great step in the right direction. Capital One they 626 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: followed suit shortly thereafter, but then discover CI they don't 627 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: charge those fees either. So if you're paying fees to 628 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: the banks, it just means that you need to switch banks. Yeah, 629 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: and we've got some articles articles up on the site, 630 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: but we'll link to one of the show notes about 631 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 2: how easy it can be. I think a lot of 632 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: folks build it up in their minds as this big thing, 633 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: but it's really not that difficult, and we'll link to 634 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 2: that in the show. 635 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: When we mention different banks that we think people should 636 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: do business with, there's a number of factors you and 637 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: I are taking into consideration. One of them is. 638 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 2: Interest rights, not just the interest rate one. It's also service. 639 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: One of them's fees or lack thereof, And we want 640 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: to recommend financial institutions who aren't charging you fees that 641 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: are completely ridiculous, made up and absurd, And all of 642 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: the banks that we recommend regularly don't do that, So yeah, 643 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: look into the ones we recommend. If you're with one 644 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: of the big banks, not only are you getting paid 645 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: nothing on your saving these account, but you're also likely 646 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: subjecting yourself to non sufficient fun fees that are ridiculous. 647 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: And hopefully you're avoiding them anyway because you're keeping enough 648 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: cash in your account. But still, I'd rather do business 649 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: with an institution that doesn't charge those junk fees. And 650 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: Bank of America. I think they reduced theirs from like 651 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: thirty five bucks to ten bucks. So even the big 652 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: banks are getting better on this front, but they're still not. 653 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: Things still aren't where they need to be totally. All right, 654 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about another fee, matt that gets charged to people, 655 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: that gets levy to people. That also my being going 656 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: away soon. This is something we are big fans of, 657 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: Like this one's going to help home buyers. Title insurance 658 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: has always been a must have I think when you're 659 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: buying a home, but it's also incredibly expensive, right, you 660 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: have to protect yourself in this way, but it feels 661 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: like blackmail because it's so darn expensive and there are 662 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: so few instances of title fraud. And most of the 663 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: time it can cost a buy or something like a 664 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: thousand bucks or more to get title insurance when they're 665 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: buying at home. So that's a big line item depending 666 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: on your state in those plus costs of home. Yeah, 667 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: in some states it's even more severe. I think Texas 668 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: is one of those places where the title insurance can 669 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: be crazy, crazy expensive. But Fannie May has said that 670 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: they're going to start accepting an alternative to title insurance, 671 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: which is an attorney opinion letter. And because Fanny may 672 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: size and influence over the mortgage market, this is actually 673 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: going to have a major impact in the near future. 674 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: It's always a good idea to question closing costs and 675 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: fees and to push back and title insurance. Like I said, 676 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: it's always been this kind of Grin and Barrett necessity 677 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: to protect yourself, even though it's overpriced and almost never used. 678 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to be as fully covered right because 679 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: you're not buying some traditional form of insurance. But these 680 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: new looser guidelines I think are going to save millions 681 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: of home buyers a significant amount of money at the 682 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: closing table. I like an alternative choice at least to 683 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: save yourself some money and to steal feel like there's 684 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: some protection that there's kind of a lawyer who's done 685 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: the digging to say, wait, this title is free and 686 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: clear and you don't have to pay the blackmail title 687 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: insurance fee that could run into four figures. 688 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like a very antiquated line item 689 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: on the mortgage loan app cost application form. 690 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the ability for us to be able to 691 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: push back. 692 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: A little bit like I almost feel like granted we 693 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: are talking about saving potentially thousands of dollars when you 694 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: purchase the home. But I love the mindset that goes 695 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: into this too as far as saying, is this something 696 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: that we need anymore? It's taking of like I'll say 697 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 2: in earlier about like burning your entire budget down. It's 698 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: starting from scratch, but it's a fresh look at something 699 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: that feels locked in from like twenty thirty forty years ago. 700 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: It's the same reason why I am glad to see 701 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: there being cases being lawsuits being presented in court, just 702 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: with like the National Association of Realtors, where we're asking 703 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: the question is this fee structure does it make sense 704 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: still for how it is that we currently operate with 705 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: our during our modern financial times. 706 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: Here, especially as the homebuying process has shifted and homeowners 707 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: are often doing a lot of the searching looking themselves like, yeah, 708 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: things have changed, things have changed, yeah, and this should 709 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: the old model remain forever? 710 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 711 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: And this could even like grease the skids a little bit, right, 712 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: just as far as getting things moving again. So bottom line, 713 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I like the progressive nature of this and how we're 714 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: kind of questioning some of these especially some of these 715 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: fees like you're saying, are oftentimes unnecessary, But buddy, you 716 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: know what, that's gonna be it for this Friday flight. 717 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: So we hope everyone out there has a fantastic weekend 718 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 2: and we'll see you back here on Monday with a 719 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: fresh Ask How To Money episode. No doubt that we've 720 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: gotta line up for you, all right, buddy, Until next time, 721 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: Best friends Out, Best Friends Out,