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Speaker 2: pool of potential priests down to a very low, negligible level,

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Speaker 2: and that means that the standards then would be reduced.

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Speaker 2: You're not having people compete, you know, and having you know,

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Speaker 2: instead of hundreds of thousands of applicants. You know, now

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Speaker 2: maybe you're down on with hous it and pretty much

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Speaker 2: if you have a beating heart. That means you're the

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Speaker 2: odds are pretty high that you'll make it, and so

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Speaker 2: and and Sadly, it did attract some some of the

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Speaker 2: wrong people. And then the church, unfortunately, rather than deal

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Speaker 2: with the scandal's head on, they at the local level,

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Speaker 2: the parish level, the bishops, the cardinals, you know, and

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Speaker 2: all the way to Rome, they never dealt with it appropriately.

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Speaker 2: In my view, that's that's that's where I feel the

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Speaker 2: church went wrong, not on any of the other things.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. I'll give you a little bit

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Speaker 2: of background, Linda. If I'm getting boring on this, tell

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Speaker 2: me you're not answering, you're not giving me. You're not

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Speaker 2: giving me affirmation of saying enough is enough? Right, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it was such a big part of my life.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you let us on a cliffhanger, and I think

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Speaker 3: it would be interesting for the audience to know that

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Speaker 3: you went to seminary and did all the things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the Catholic Church is founded on Jesus asking

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Speaker 2: his apostles, who do you say that I am? And

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Speaker 2: he asked Peter, remember it was his name was originally Simon,

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Speaker 2: And he said, oh, no, I'm going to call you Peter.

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Speaker 1: It was a big part of, you know, the biblical story.

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Speaker 2: And and Peter was fishing when Jesus met him, and

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Speaker 2: he didn't catch a single fish. He said, drop you

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Speaker 2: a net one more time, and he had more fish.

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Speaker 2: He was able to pay off his debt. And then

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, follow me, and I'll make you

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Speaker 2: fishers of men. But the whole premise of the Catholic

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Speaker 2: Church is founded on this scripture where you know, Peter,

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Speaker 2: who who do you say that I am? And he said,

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Speaker 2: you are the Christ, you are the son of the

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Speaker 2: Living God. And Jesus's answer was, well, bless and blood

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Speaker 2: didn't reveal this to you, Peter, My father revealed that

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Speaker 2: unto your heart. And it's upon this foundation that I

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Speaker 2: shall build my church, and the gates of Hell will

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Speaker 2: not prevail against it. Here's the interesting side of it.

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Speaker 2: When I studied theology in Latin, Peter means petros, which

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Speaker 2: means rock. And upon they took it Peter the man

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Speaker 2: the rock would become the foundation of the church. I

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Speaker 2: took it very differently. My interpretation is my own, so

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Speaker 2: take it for what it's worth that Peter understood who

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Speaker 2: Jesus was because flesh and blood didn't reveal who Jesus

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Speaker 2: was to him. That God the Father did. And it

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Speaker 2: is upon the foundation of having a direct relationship with

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Speaker 2: God and inner revelation that Jesus, Jesus's church will be built.

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Speaker 2: Inner discernment called the conscience, it's called the soul. You know,

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Speaker 2: how many of us, in the course of our lives,

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Speaker 2: when you do something wrong, you know you're doing something wrong.

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Speaker 2: You know you listen to the wrong voice, or you know,

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Speaker 2: as you get older and more mature and more mature

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Speaker 2: spiritually and more disciplined in life, than you make the

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Speaker 2: right decisions. That's part of you know, gradually graciously abandoning

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Speaker 2: the things of youth. So I think the spiritual component

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Speaker 2: was way more important than than Peter the Rock, the Pope,

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Speaker 2: Petros and so on and so forth. All right, was

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Speaker 2: that worthwhile or not?

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Speaker 1: Of course it was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think you have a background. You know,

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Speaker 3: you're basically a theologian. You know, you have a very

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Speaker 3: very strong background, and you have obviously you know, you've

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Speaker 3: been committed to, you know, the word of the Lord

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Speaker 3: for a very very long time. And it's amazing. I

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Speaker 3: don't think a lot of the audience knows.

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Speaker 1: That I don't talk a lot about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: proselytize in life. I messed up too much of my life.

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Speaker 1: I was too much.

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Speaker 2: I was so freaking incorrigible in my youth that I

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Speaker 2: you know, I have no right to tell anybody what

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Speaker 2: to do.

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Speaker 3: To be very honest, nobody has anybody the right to

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Speaker 3: tell anybody what to do. You know my.

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Speaker 1: Backsliding.

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Speaker 3: I'm not backsliding.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm more of a standing still kind of gal. I

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Speaker 3: like the peloton.

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Speaker 1: You know, a nice brisk card. But you have but

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Speaker 1: you have a hate list I do. I hate a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. Love God, love your neighbors. All you say.

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Speaker 2: He didn't say anywhere in the Bible to hate anybody.

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Speaker 2: He said to forgive people seventy times seven, that just

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Speaker 2: never stopped forgiving them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not in math. I'm a media.

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Speaker 3: You know I'm doing my best.

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Speaker 2: You just you've become a liberal when this topic comes up,

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Speaker 2: because you no you met, you rationalize and make excuses

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Speaker 2: like liberals do.

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Speaker 3: No, it's the opposite. I'm not making excuses. I'm not rationalized.

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Speaker 1: Forgive us as we forgive. I mean, if you want forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: It's predicated on you forgiving those people on your stupid

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Speaker 2: hate list that you cling to like manna from heaven.

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Speaker 3: But I do like I don't. I'm sorry. I don't

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Speaker 3: forgive pedophiles. I don't forgive murderers. I don't forgive rapists.

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Speaker 3: I don't forgive people who hurt animals in any way,

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Speaker 3: shape or form. I do not forgive them. I do not,

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Speaker 3: and I hope that you know.

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Speaker 2: Listen, you mentioned pedophiles. I don't think I can forgive

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Speaker 2: them either. I might be with you on that part.

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Speaker 2: You know, one of the most interesting things in Pope

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Speaker 2: John Paul the Second's life that he did you remember

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Speaker 2: he got shot. Everyone forgets that. Remember the guy that

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Speaker 2: I forgot it tried to kill him? Okay, he went

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Speaker 2: to prison to pray with the guy. Isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 3: That's insane?

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Speaker 1: Why is that insane? He's the pope, he's practiced. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he's still human.

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Speaker 2: So so if you were the pope and you somebody

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Speaker 2: tried to assassinate your wanted to assassinate you, you wouldn't go

547
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Speaker 2: visit them in prison, as Jesus instructed us to do.

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Speaker 2: When I was hungry. You gave me food. When I

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Speaker 2: needed clothes. You gave me clothes when I was in prison,

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Speaker 2: you visited me. Her was you know, the hell with

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Speaker 2: you and you're on my hate list?

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Speaker 3: No, I'd be like, I got a guy, he's going

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Speaker 3: to come visit you and let you know how I

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Speaker 3: feel about this.

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Speaker 1: I got a guy that's going to come there and

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Speaker 1: get the crap out of you.

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Speaker 3: Now you just saying I got a guy in cell

558
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Speaker 3: block twelve, all it's going to come and say hi.

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Speaker 3: His name is Frank stand By.

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Speaker 2: I did not plan on talking about any of this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why where it came from.

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Speaker 3: Regardless of all of this, I think it's beautiful to

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Speaker 3: see that there's so many people of faith, you know,

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Speaker 3: Christian's Catholic, you know, Praising.

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Speaker 1: The served me well.

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Speaker 2: It has served me so well in my life, and

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Speaker 2: it gave me a foundation, and I'm grateful for that.

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Speaker 2: Although now I consider myself non denominational, and it was.

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Speaker 2: But it was nice to see. Although I wish this

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Speaker 2: guy wasn't political. I hope he doesn't go there where

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Speaker 2: Pope Francis did. All right, we have a lot going

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Speaker 2: on around the world, not the least of which is

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Speaker 2: the OLDI