1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. We are getting started 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: with one of the most anticipated and one of the 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: most excited seasons that Ashley and I have ever entered into. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 2: It's now the time for the Golden Bachelorette. This is 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: something that we've waited for that first a part of 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: our life. It was just a dream and now we're 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: actually in it. The season is airing and we're here 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: to break down episode one of this season. It's Jones 11 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: season of the Golden Bachelorette. Ashley is with me. Ashley, Hello, 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: your thoughts, feelings, emotions. As you enter in and you 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: turned on your television to watch this beautiful episode. 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: I was really excited to watch it. It was just 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: as captivating as I hoped it would be. And I 16 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: was really sad that there was a rose ceremony at 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: the end of it, because I thought that they really 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: made us so am I was connected to these guys 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: so quickly. After we watch the video of their families 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: doing shout outs, I was like, Oh, there's no way 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: that they're going to eliminate any of these guys. They're 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: gonna have Jesse come in and be like, guess what 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: there was ceremony tonight. 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: But there was. 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 3: And I will say they did a good job of 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: not really eliminating anyone. They didn't highlight anyone who was eliminated. 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: So the guys that did leave, I didn't really have 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: any impressions of you. 29 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: Could have said it better. Let's start from the beginning. 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Joan as our Golden Bachelorette. Fantastic choice. Now it just 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: feels like the obvious choice. There are so many incredible 32 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: women on the last season of The Golden Bachelor, but 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: it just feels now with everything that Joan has beauty 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: and grace. 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: It's grace. 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that she has wisdom. You can 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: tell even in her time with her family and her interview. 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: She's slow to speak, quick to listen seriously, she has 39 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: a story to back her up. She's gorgeous. I think 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: it was like the obvious choice. Now it feels that 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: way now again, I want to preface it with say, 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: there was some amazing women, and there's some other obvious 43 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: choices that she could think could have picked, but Joan 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: in this role fits. Yes, She's It's like when she 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: enters into camera, especially in the moments where she is 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: the bachelorette. It's captivating at some level, right, Like it's 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: like almost a show stopping Like it feels like she glows. 48 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: Somebody said it was like royalty, and it does feel 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 3: like that. She has this composure and it's the elegance 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: and grace. It's like a it's like a Grace Kelly thing. Yeah, 51 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: she's very calming and she just seems like no drama. 52 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: She seems truly like there for you, being. 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: Like, oh the top. No. 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's enough that we could say 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: about Joan that would even fit who she is. I 56 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: think if you met Joan in person, which you and 57 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: I have gotten to do, you would be as captivated 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: and you would sit there and be like I could 59 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: talk to you for two hours because you have a 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: lot of wisdom. Yeah, and she is slow to speak, 61 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 2: quick to listen. So Joan is a great choice. She shines. 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: I think she is a in a sense, like she 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: almost looks like the savior of the show. Not that 64 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 2: the show needs saving right now. I think it's in 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: a fine place, but it just feels like she's going 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: to thrive in this role. It's incredible that they found 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: somebody like her to lead this, And then with that 68 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: same breath, I'll say it's incredible they found so many 69 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: incredible men to do it as well. 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I love the way that the guys are 71 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: very much the way that the women were at first. 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: It's there's a camaraderie. They want to be friends, They're 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: to have fun together. There's not going to be any 74 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: sort of and I don't feel like there's gonna be 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: any sort of animosity. They go in there and they're 76 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: like bros. And there's just so much less tension. And 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: I really think that has to do with perspective and 78 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: talked about it on Garious season. It's just like these people, 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: they just they've lived more life. They know what's important 80 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: and they know like, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. 81 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 82 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a good lesson learned for all of 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: us as we watch it is as you get older, 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: what do you trend towards? And it's not the drama 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: and the fighting and the competitiveness. It's the camaraderie. It's 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: the community, it's the shared respect, it's the mutual support. 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: We've seen it with both seasons now and I'm sure 88 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: there's gonna be some animosity. There's a bunch of people 89 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 2: living in the same house together for the next few months. 90 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: Things will pop up that annoy you about somebody else, 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: and maybe we'll hear about that. But the level of 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: drama compared to other seasons like The Bachelor or Bachelorette, 93 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: will be a lot more minimal. It won't be a highlight. 94 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: They can't make it a highlight. We've been There's been 95 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: some bad moments here for production. I think over the 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: last few weeks when it comes to Gin's ending, and 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: then obviously with the missed opportunity to tell Devin not 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: to even come on the show. You know those things 99 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: you know, we've talked about that we've been critical. I 100 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: will say this episode specifically, and I'm hoping it continues 101 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: for the rest of the season, was so well done. 102 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: It was an incredible episode to watch. We got to 103 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: learn so much about these contestants and such a short 104 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: amount of time. And as you said, the reason that 105 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: we were so captivated, so intrigued, and so into these 106 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: people was due to how they set up the show, 107 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: and it was absolutely incredible. I didn't want to roast 108 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: ceremony either. In fact, I don't know how she's going 109 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: to have rost ceremonies because it feels like they should 110 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: all just hang out together and just continue on their 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 2: merry way for the rest of time. And I have 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: to give credit there and say, this is just a 113 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 2: really good episode. This is a good, well done episode, 114 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: from the storytelling perspective, to the arc of the episode 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: to helping us get to know these contestants a little 116 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: bit better. 117 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: It felt so good to watch. 118 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: I do have to say that maybe it's just easier 119 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: to create this closeness that we feel towards them because 120 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 3: they have these pasts, you know, like they're telling the 121 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: story of their decea spouse, they're telling the story about 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: their kids. And when we watch packages and stuff with 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: the Bachelor Bachelorette, it's kind of like, Hi, I'm so 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 3: and so I'm looking for love. You know. Well, there's, 125 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: of course, there's like a lot of depth and stuff, 126 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: But I just think that there's something about people already 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 3: having these families formed that probably make you feel like 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: they're just a mushier. They don't come across ever as 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 3: like victim stories or like, oh, here's my sap story, 130 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: which of course, I you know, I feel for all 131 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: of the ones that we've seen in the past, it's 132 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: a discredit them. It's just that like for uh, like 133 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: the cast as a whole, because they all have like 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: they just they just seem like they have like more 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: depth at this age, which is perhaps, Yeah, I don't know, 136 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: do you know what I'm saying, Well. 137 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: I'd hope they have more depth they have. 138 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: Some more years, Okay, So like I just think that 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 3: it's maybe it's where I am in life. Seeing packages 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: about like these dads and their kids just makes me 141 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: feel really oh yeah. 142 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: I think part of it too, actually is just a change. Again, 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: I'll go back to how the show is made, and 144 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a change in how they storytell and 145 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: what used to happen on the show is kind of 146 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: through those entry packages, we get a taste at a 147 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: piece of the bigger story from these contestants. And now 148 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: what we're doing is we're waiting until those one on 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: one dates kind of as they sit at the cocktail 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: part or they sit at a one on one like 151 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: dinner for the contestant to actually open up and tell 152 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: their story. And a lot of contestants do have a 153 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: story and they do have depth, but the show, for 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: whatever reason, on the Bachelor and Bachelorette wait until those 155 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: one on one moments to tell the audience, and they 156 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: used to in the entry packages give us a taste 157 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: of that story, and so we go into it being like, Hey, 158 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: I want to learn more about that person because I 159 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: know they have a story to tell and we kind 160 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: of anticipated when they would expand on it more with 161 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: the lead. And I think that's what they're doing with 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: the Golden Bachelorette. 163 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: More upfront story, more. 164 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: Upfront storytelling it. They don't wait until the end. They 165 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: get us at the beginning, and so the whole time, 166 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: now we're going to be captivated by each one of 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: these contestants and go, you have such a story. And yes, 168 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: not all of them got to tell Jen on night 169 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: or Joan on night one. Not all of them got 170 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: to expand on that story on night one, But what 171 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: our hope is that they get to at some point throughout. 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: The season and we get to learn a little bit more. 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 3: But like, okay, so what I was really trying to 174 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: say is like, look at you and me going into 175 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: The Bachelor and the Bachelorette. We had nothing really. I mean, yes, 176 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: you had some things, you had some traumas, but like 177 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: you didn't have anything that you were like, you know, 178 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: you where you're like, oh, you know, like my wife 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: passed away or like, you know, everything was just kind 180 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: of like, oh, I am looking for a spouse, like 181 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: you're just like Fresher. Yeah, And I will say I'm 182 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: not describing this well, No, you're doing fine. 183 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: I will say that when we're on the show, though, 184 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: there were some stories that like other men on The 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: Bachelorette that had and they would share that with us, 186 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: you know, kind of as we sat in the hotel 187 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: or sat in the house and it was just us. 188 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 2: The lead wasn't there, and they'd be like, yeah, you 189 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: know what, like my mom passed away like two months 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: ago and it's been really hard for me, but she 191 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: always wanted me to go on the show. And Caitlyn 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't know that story yet. And so when they had 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: their one on one date, I will say one of 194 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: the cooler moments was when they would have their one 195 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: on one date and the guys would you know, be 196 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: kind of sitting around. We'd be like, hey, you're you 197 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: gonna have to share that with her tonight and they're like, yeah, 198 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: I am, it's going to be hard because you know, 199 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: I don't really want to cry on national television. We're like, hey, 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: you just got to go through it, like just do it, 201 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 2: Like she needs to know this, you need to like 202 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: talk about this. And it was this cool moment of support. 203 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: So the stories have always been known way before the 204 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: lead maybe even know Zone. And I think that's such 205 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: a fun part of this Golden Show so far is 206 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: we know these contestants better already than most of the 207 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: contestants on gen season because we've heard a lot of 208 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: their stories. 209 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: I just want to clarify it doesn't mean that you 210 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: have to have a sad story to be a great guy. 211 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: No, but we all have a story. You all have 212 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: a story. 213 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: Everybody has a story of some level at some capacity. 214 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to have a sad, sappy background. 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: Just knowing their stories, like I just want to know 216 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: their stories. 217 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: The show did a great job at that. These men 219 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: are as incredible as we thought they were through their pictures. 220 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: There is depth, there is a handsomeness, There is you 221 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: know this like suaveness to so many of them, and 222 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 2: then there's the big personalities, there's the fun personalities. There's 223 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 2: the personalities that you just love to have on these 224 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: seasons because they make everything a little bit better and 225 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: just having them there makes it a little more fun 226 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: to watch. So there is a great group I think 227 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: of men on Jones season at every you know, at 228 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: every level. 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 3: And before we get into the guys that really stood 230 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: out to us, let's talk about well, just let me 231 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: just make my own little comment. You know what this 232 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: show has been missing for so many years, the soft rock, 233 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: those soft rog hits like the one that we got 234 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: from Phil Collins slash I'm not sure it was Genis 235 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: sister Phil Collins in. 236 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: The beginning of the episode. 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: Those old jams really give you some feelings. And they 238 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: used to do that all the time, and now they've 239 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 3: a limited eliminated it, but they bring it back for 240 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: the golden part of the franchise, and I think we 241 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: need to infiltrate more of that music. 242 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: Into the show, into the main show. 243 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: I love it so much. Okay, guys, the first guy 244 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: out of the limo, he's he's quite the character. It's 245 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 3: Pascual Pascal Pascal. He's the Frenchman and normally I'm not 246 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: like swooned by a French accent, but he has it 247 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: like he's totally got it. And he owns a salon 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: slash medspa, which just tracks so perfectly for him. Look, 249 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: they're not gonna get married, he's not going to get 250 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: super duper far. I don't see them having a deep, 251 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: deep connection. But he's a really fun character for us. 252 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: I also will say some of the people that stood 253 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: out to me, I'll just name him. 254 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: Some of the names here, obviously Keith, who ends up 255 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: with the first impression, Rose Mark who obviously you probably 256 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: just Mark. 257 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: He gets better and better the more we see him. 258 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: Goodness Ashley just really is the fact that you don't 259 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: understand this is like, I understand it. 260 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: I understand it. 261 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: I go back to though, my comment weeks ago that 262 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: says this show is going to be a problem because 263 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: all these handsome older men are going to come out 264 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: there and all these eighteen to forty five years yeah, 265 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: and all these girls are gonna be like, goodness, gracious, 266 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 2: their dms are about to get dangerous. 267 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 4: I mean it, I'm worried for these guys. 268 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna be like, I don't even know what a 269 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 2: thirst trap is and now of a sudden, I'm getting 270 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: pictures I never I don't want to see. 271 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 3: Listen, can we just talk Do you want to talk 272 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: about Mark an hour later? 273 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: We'll talk about Mark later. I really like Michael just 274 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 2: because he was nervous and I understand that. 275 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: Michael Michael nervous. Uh yeah, that was cute. I'm trying 276 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 3: to put a plate a face to the name because 277 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: a couple of them said they were nervous. I know 278 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: Jordan was super. Jordan was very subconscious about his nervous entrance, 279 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 3: which I saw him stumble, but it was like, no 280 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: big deal, No, it's fine. 281 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: The final person that I'll bring up just after. 282 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: Night one that stood out to me that I just 283 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: love and I want to hang out with, and it 284 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: just feels like so many of my best friends because 285 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: they just seem to make life a little bit more 286 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: fun is Jack. Jack has to get some credit here. 287 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: Jack is an amazing commentator. He has huge, just awesome energy, 288 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: he has confidence, he has swagger, and he is hilarious. 289 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: I want to know more about Jack. I want to 290 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: see more about Jack, and I hope Jack's around a while, 291 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: just because it does I feel like what I like 292 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: in Jack is He's not the type of guy that 293 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: would just say yes to going on this, Like he 294 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: took a little convincing and then he got there and 295 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: he's going to make the most of it. Like you know, 296 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: when we talk about on this show, I think it 297 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: took this. 298 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: Man a little convincing. I think he was like TV 299 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: is for me. 300 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: Sure, maybe that's true, dude, But you know when we 301 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: give the life Advice segment and we talked about be 302 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: where your feet are, it's such a good piece of advice. 303 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: Just be where your feet are at all times. It 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: helps you stay present. I feel like Jack's saying would 305 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: be be where my feet are and then make it 306 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: the best. And I think he's just gonna make this 307 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: so much fun. It might be annoying to some people 308 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 2: because he probably is having such a good time just 309 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: being there, but I don't care. 310 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 4: I like it. 311 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: I also like, I loved how he cooked for her, 312 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: so he's a caterer. He cooked for her for their 313 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: one on one time. That would have won me over 314 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 3: for sure. And then he's sang Sinatra coming out of 315 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: the limo and he's like, well, there are my two 316 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: talents singing and cooking. Yeah, he's really fun. I again 317 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: don't think that they're like gonna be endgame, but he's 318 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 3: a great character for us to watch. Love it And Okay, 319 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 3: so for me, I liked Chalk, who has the weirdest name, 320 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: but brought her chok noodle soup chicken noodle soup because 321 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: she's known for her chicken noodle soup. And he just 322 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: had a really nice comming demeanor. 323 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure. 324 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: I also of course loved Jonathan, who is a hottie. 325 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: He is the one who's divorced. He has two kids. 326 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 3: His kids look on the younger side. He's sixty one 327 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: at the same age he he just seems like full package. 328 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: He what about God Like, he's a pretty handsome man. 329 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: Guy's kind of weird to me. Guy is he he's 330 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: the the ear doctor, right, Yeah, he's a little he's 331 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 3: a little u. Yes, they're all handsome. He's very good looking, 332 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: but he's a little he's a little awkward. Right now, 333 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: we'll see it. Keith, Okay, we'll talk about Keith. He 334 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: comes in with the station waggage with the luggage dropped 335 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: on top. He is from Jose, California. He's been a 336 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: single dad for twelve years. You were talking earlier about 337 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: how his wife had problems with addiction, so let him 338 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 3: be like just the primary parent for the past twelve years, 339 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: has three girls, and again liked his demeanor, and obviously 340 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: so did Joan as he got the first impression Rose 341 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 3: there is a warmth to him. I see him getting 342 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: pretty far. There's a lot of girl dads in this bunch. 343 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: There was the guy from Florida was another girl dad 344 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: that I really felt connected to. His name is slipping 345 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: me right now. 346 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: But oh Dan. 347 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: Dan loved Dan and he adopted his first child and 348 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: was a single dad for fourteen years. Really I really 349 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 3: liked him. But yeah, let's see anybody else before I 350 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: can move on to you know, my fave Mark who actually, 351 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: to be honest, Dan and Jonathan are up there with 352 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: Mark for me, but I think. 353 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 4: That Mark is just hold up, hold up, let me 354 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: pause here this. 355 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: I just want to take a second for all the 356 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: listeners and highlight my just the best co host possible 357 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: for the last eight years. Did you do you hear 358 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: what she just did? She goes, is there anybody else 359 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: been before we talk about Mark? And then she just 360 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: starts talking about Mark. She just it's going she cannot 361 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: help herself. Literally, she brings it up, like, Hey, is 362 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: there anybody else that really stands out to you, Ben, 363 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: because I really have this person I want to talk about, 364 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: and then she just goes by the way. Mark's amazing 365 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: and he's awesome, but there are some people that shocked 366 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: me that kind of got to it's just absolutely incredible 367 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: when Ashley, she's just so easy to read. I know 368 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: you want to talk about Mark so bad, and I 369 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: just want to pause you on that because I think 370 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: Gary and Charles k also are like would stand out 371 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: to me from this episode. I think they'll be around 372 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: a while. I think they're gonna be big characters this 373 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: season and I really like them. Now, Ashley, the floor 374 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: is yours. You can take your next twenty minutes and 375 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: talk about Mark. 376 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: Well, Ben, I want to mention that Gary is the 377 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: life of the party. I enjoy watching him as well. 378 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 3: He's going to be so fun And when his daughter 379 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: came on screen with his grandchild, adorable. That whole segment 380 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: is so so sweet. 381 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do that to me. 382 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this is rude, it's so evil. 383 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't make me cry watching this show. Like 384 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 2: that's it's so stupid for me to still be crying 385 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: watching a bachelor show at this point in my life. 386 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: Yet somehow they got me again. And when like that 387 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: came up, that little segment happened, like there's just tears 388 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: of joy coming down my face and like tears of 389 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: sentiment and love, and it's like this is I literally 390 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: sat here and they're like, this is the stupidest thing, 391 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Like the show can't keep doing this to me. 392 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 3: Sentiment is a word that I should use more often 393 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: on this podcast. It makes a lot of sense. Okay, 394 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: But ben that video segment, it would have been great 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: for the opening of episode two, like, hey, guys, you 396 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: made it through the row ceremony. Now let's see who's 397 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: missing you back at home. You've been gone for a 398 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: few more days. But it was like, hey, guys, you 399 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 3: just saw everybody like five days ago, you know, because 400 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 3: I'm in the hotel for like four or five days. 401 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: Let's show this video right before I eliminate like five 402 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: of you. Yeah, that was tough, but it was all 403 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 3: for the storytelling. 404 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 405 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, So so Mark is it? Okay? I can talk 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 3: about Mark right now. Yes, Yeah, So he's fifty seven, 407 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: so they really made an exception for him because he 408 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: was Kelsey's dad. They also totally made that exception because 409 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: they want him to be the next Golden Bachelor if 410 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: he is not the winner of this. And we see 411 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: from the scenes in the next episode that at some 412 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 3: point Jones says I love you Mark. But my theory 413 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: is that, I mean, she could say this as like 414 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: an endearing thing in her top three or whatnot, saying 415 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: like I love you because I love you as a person. 416 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: I love you, but you're not the one. I don't 417 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 3: know that they would really put that in there if 418 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: he really was the final one. So I'm actually going 419 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: to say that he might not be the final one, 420 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: but he's definitely going far and he's definitely going to 421 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: be the next Golden Bachelor if he's not the winner. 422 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: Actually, do you find him handsome? 423 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: Of course, he is so handsome, But it's his demeanor, Ben, 424 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: I know I keep using that word. There's something about 425 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 3: his presence, but there was a couple guys that had 426 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: very similar presences. But it's the combination. And I also 427 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: just trust him because he's Kelsey's dad too. You know. 428 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: We feel like when you see Mark on television. Do 429 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: you just get a little like tingly. 430 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: No, you mean Tinkley in the heart, just like giddy? Yeah, warm, warm, 431 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 3: he's warm. Yeah, he sounds a little dirty. Oh is 432 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: that what you're referring to? No, so okay, I thought 433 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: you were trying to get dirty for a second. 434 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: Goodness, Ashley, we've done this for eight years. When it 435 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: was the last time I tried to get dirty, When 436 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: it was the last time I tried to say, you 437 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: have to say something that weird, I was like giddy. 438 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: Good No, no, no, he's no. I just I just 439 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: you find he is a true diamond in the rough. 440 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 3: Not that this is a rough batch. It's definitely not 441 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: that they're all golden diamonds in the rough or whatever. 442 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: But yeah, but he is. He's a TV star, guys, 443 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 3: he's a little He's a Nicholas Sparks character in like 444 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 3: an older Oh, it's like Knights of Rodanthe If you 445 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: guys remember the one with Diane Lane and Richard Gear. 446 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: It was like the Nicholas Sparks older version, and it's 447 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 3: it is pretty much better than a lot of the 448 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: other younger versions of his mind stories. 449 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, bye, before you say something weird, Let's 450 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: continue on. It is an incredible group of men. I'm 451 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: so excited for this season. I don't I don't just 452 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: say that to say, like, I think this is going 453 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: to be an incredible season of emotion. It's going to 454 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: be an incredible season of story. It's going to be 455 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: incredible to see the arc of Joan's journey. And I'm 456 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: really excited is the wrong word here. I'm very happy 457 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: that Joan is given the space to be honest about 458 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: her emotions along this journey. That she's struggling now and 459 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: she feels guilty. I think that's probably going to be 460 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: very relatable to many, and I also think it's just 461 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 2: a very real feeling. And I'm really excited that she 462 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: is taking the space to say it, you know, because 463 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: I think it gives these men whoever are left at 464 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: that point a chance to step in and not console her, 465 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: but speak with her about it, ask her questions about it, 466 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: give her confidence within it. I think that's going to 467 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: be a really powerful time. Whenever that episode airs or 468 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: however long that kind of feeling exists for her. But 469 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 2: it's a real feeling, and what you and I I 470 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 2: always talk about on this show is we want authenticity 471 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: and we want genuineness. I think we got it from Jin. 472 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: I don't think we got it from anybody else on 473 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: her season. I think those two things were very much missing. 474 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 2: But I think when it comes to this journey with Joan, 475 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: authenticity and genuineness are going to be there the whole time, 476 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 2: which I think the Golden Show needs because obviously the 477 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 2: last season of The Golden did not end well, did 478 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: not go well, and I think Jen feeling like she 479 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: can or Joan feeling like she can admit this and 480 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: talk about this publicly with these this group of men, 481 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 2: will build even a deeper connection with whoever she ends 482 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: up with at the end, if she ends up with somebody. 483 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: So I'm very excited Ashley here in the final minutes, 484 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: let's talk about the scenes for the rest of the season. 485 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, your predictions, your feelings. 486 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: Okay, So besides the I Love You mark, what stood 487 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: out was well, Gary makes an appearance, which I wasn't 488 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: sure we're going to say, just because his story did 489 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: end kind of odd. I also thought that it was 490 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 3: interesting the way that there's somewhere in the season where 491 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: she's like, eh, maybe I'm not ready for this. Maybe 492 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 3: my person isn't here. I'm always going to feel like 493 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: this angling of guilt about dating anyone after my husband. 494 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: Totally relatable phase that she seems to go through. But 495 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: it does seem that she ends up with somebody because 496 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: she goes. Up until this point in life, I'd only 497 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: loved one person, and now I love too. So I 498 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: think that she does end up with somebody in the end, 499 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: but I'm sure they're going to try to make it 500 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: seem like she doesn't. We don't see any like engagement. 501 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: Preview because I ruined it for him. They can't keep 502 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: showing it because I know who it is. Remember with Devin, 503 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: I said, Oh, that's definitely Devin. 504 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, you're arking at that. Yeah, I'm gonna 505 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: say I would really love her not to get engaged. 506 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 3: I just think that it's like after the passing of 507 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: a spouse of thirty three years, to get engaged to 508 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: somebody after six weeks, four to six weeks of knowing them. 509 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: I just think it's nice to actually not and especially 510 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: after we saw what happened with Gary and Teresa, let's 511 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: just make them a really happy couple. 512 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 2: You would be okay, with that, so you would still celebrate. Yeah, okay, cool. 513 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: Final comment I have agreed with everything you said is 514 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: where in the world are they at at the end 515 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: of this season? 516 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 4: Because where the clouds are in the clouds? The pool 517 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 4: is above the clouds. Yeah, where is that? That's cool? 518 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 3: That was the coolest they could Why haven't they done this? 519 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 3: They just found this place? Now they should always have 520 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: a finale in the clouds. 521 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: It's amazing, Heaven. It's going to be such a fun season. 522 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to keep talking about it with Ashley. 523 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: It's I think just the excitement towards this Golden Show 524 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: has not at all gone away from me, and I 525 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: know it hasn't gone away from Ashley, and this is 526 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 2: gonna be just an incredible season again, so happy for 527 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: Joan an incredible choice. I will say this with confidence. 528 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: We should all just one hundred percent get behind Joan. 529 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: Like I know that maybe some people were jaded after 530 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: the last season, knowing Joan being around Joan, It's going 531 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: to be incredible and it's going to be something special 532 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: and we should just celebrate the fact that all these 533 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: men showed up and that she showed up for our entertainment. 534 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: And also for their love story. So until next week 535 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: when we break down the second episode of The Golden Bachelorette, 536 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: which were so pumped for. 537 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 4: I've Been Ben, I have Been Ashley Bye. 538 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 539 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.