Speaker 1: The Nick Gliser passers.
Speaker 2: Hello here, I am welcome to the show. It's Nick
Speaker 2: a Podcast. Thank you for listening. I'm here in Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Brian is with us. What's up? Brian?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Did I? I told you? I want to go to
Speaker 2: see the sphere again? What it was?
Speaker 1: So it seems like you went to the superior show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was redeemed. I mean they should have just
Speaker 2: played the screens from the movie I saw Behind You too.
Speaker 2: It's like I'm learning, I guess that the screens are
Speaker 2: super expensive, and but that's no excuse Bono should have
Speaker 2: taken a pay cut to make the screens better. There's
Speaker 2: no way that Bono should have looked like been watched
Speaker 2: what like, there's some way in which they probably filmed
Speaker 2: themselves practicing and then watched it back and then like
Speaker 2: what's the experience like? And there's no ways. But but
Speaker 2: you know what, Yes, there is a way he was
Speaker 2: satisfied me because we're the only ones who weren't, So
Speaker 2: there is.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's mind boggling. That's always the thing
Speaker 1: that's mind boggling about art. Does the amount of people
Speaker 1: who gobble up mediocrity like it's greatness.
Speaker 2: I they're dear people I love dearly who like things
Speaker 2: that I can't understand why they like it, and I
Speaker 2: have to ask them point for point, like and what
Speaker 2: was funny about this line of this person's thing? I
Speaker 2: like Anyaall sometimes see that she will like like someone's
Speaker 2: comedy clip, and I'm like, I want to understand where
Speaker 2: this light came from. It's no judgment, but like all
Speaker 2: the judgment right, Like yeah, I'm like, do you just
Speaker 2: want this person to like you or just being nice?
Speaker 2: Like is this like a friend? Do you actually think
Speaker 2: this is funny? And if so explained to me? Because
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, okay, yeah, I got it now, Okay,
Speaker 2: I just don't relate to that or I have taste,
Speaker 2: but anyway, so, I definitely art is subjective, but is
Speaker 2: it is it that I keep here? Like someone told
Speaker 2: me the other day, oh, because I was complaining about
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome right on the Girls Chat, Classic Ni classic Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Carlisle I believe, was like, that's like asking someone
Speaker 2: like you can't pick like the best color. There's no
Speaker 2: best color because everyone likes a different color. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's not like that to me it's not like that.
Speaker 2: There is there are things that are superior and there
Speaker 2: are things that are not. And yes you can very
Speaker 2: like there's some Noah's into heavy metal I or in
Speaker 2: death metal. I don't understand that at all, but I
Speaker 2: do understand there is a musicality to it that I
Speaker 2: don't grasp and therefore I'm just left out. But there's
Speaker 2: some stuff that is.
Speaker 1: Bad and appreciate, Like there's different types of art that
Speaker 1: you can still appreciate even though it's not your thing.
Speaker 1: But then there are some things that are just a
Speaker 1: bad version of the thing, poorly done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't think it's really subjective because
Speaker 2: I think we can all all agree on who the
Speaker 2: best comedians are, like at least the Here's the thing is,
Speaker 2: some people think they're comedians that are great, but they
Speaker 2: have bad taste, and that's fine, And I guess it
Speaker 2: is subjective because they're allowed to think that's bad, but
Speaker 2: they're they're wrong if you're looking at it like a
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like all agree on the
Speaker 2: best comedians being Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, John Mulaney, George Carlin,
Speaker 2: Like why why is that? Why do we all agree
Speaker 2: that if comedy is so subjective, why do we all
Speaker 2: agree pretty much across the board, Luis k Bilbourg, Why
Speaker 2: do we all agree that those are the best.
Speaker 1: Because we're a comedians. We agree No them on out
Speaker 1: of the street and they'll tell you that they're they're comedians,
Speaker 1: know their work or somebody like.
Speaker 2: But if they watch Gabriel Glaciers and they watch John
Speaker 2: Mulani back to back, I think, well, Gabriel is very good, though,
Speaker 2: but Gabriel's good.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying. I can appreciate people who
Speaker 1: like Gabriel Glaciers because I can understand someone liking that.
Speaker 1: But there are some comedians or whatever. I don't think
Speaker 1: comedians that we should be talking about that because we're
Speaker 1: so intriguing mentioned in it. Yeah, but there are some
Speaker 1: comedians that are just terrible and you're like, how could
Speaker 1: you like this? How could you possibly like this?
Speaker 2: I just see that there's like, yes, everyone should be
Speaker 2: able to make art, but we shouldn't all be like
Speaker 2: it's all has the possibility to be the best. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: some of it's not. It's just going to be mid.
Speaker 1: As mid the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's okay, to be mid, but it's also okay
Speaker 2: to call something mid. I don't have to act like
Speaker 2: everything has the potential to be so special and great
Speaker 2: when I just I just don't. I don't get I
Speaker 2: just will not whatever. I'm not going to fight on it.
Speaker 2: But the YouTube, back to the sphere. I just want
Speaker 2: to say what I saw and compared to YouTube and
Speaker 2: say that it was that YouTube is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, one more thing. The one element that we're
Speaker 1: not including in this is that most people are stupid,
Speaker 1: and like that's why they like mid things. There's there's
Speaker 1: stupid they can't evaluate what they're seeing. I think fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the people who consume art are so stupid
Speaker 1: that they don't even have the capacity to evaluate something as.
Speaker 2: Good or that's kind of stupid I am because I'm
Speaker 2: pretty I'm not the smartest person. I'm not smart as
Speaker 2: I want to be, but I at least know that
Speaker 2: I'm not as smart as I want to be. I
Speaker 2: think I'm really grateful. It's maybe I mean not grateful.
Speaker 2: I know how dumb I am. I know my limitations
Speaker 2: and it's frustrating. But I think there's some people that
Speaker 2: are so stupid they don't even know how dumb they are,
Speaker 2: and that would be a fun kind of place to
Speaker 2: be in, is to hear big words and go, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is that? When I hear a big word,
Speaker 2: I go, how did I not know that word? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look it up. I'm gonna learn it. I'm going
Speaker 2: to practicing execrable because that word is interesting to me.
Speaker 2: I want to sound learned, and so I practiced yesterday
Speaker 2: execrable execrable. I looked it up. I was like, it
Speaker 2: means bad, like discuss, like just the worst. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess. But I had to like really focus on it.
Speaker 2: And I'm because I'm stupid because that word did not land.
Speaker 2: And some people. The guy that will use this word
Speaker 2: is just an intellectual who I listened to. He has
Speaker 2: a podcast with another guy and they just review music
Speaker 2: and there they use so many big words and they're
Speaker 2: so smart, and I'm like, these guys didn't need to
Speaker 2: try to learn exe execrable and they're just the kind
Speaker 2: of smart that it it just got in and they
Speaker 2: use the Another word that I used that they learned
Speaker 2: or that they taught me was oh god pre naturally pretinatal.
Speaker 2: Oh good word that what I'm still working on. That's
Speaker 2: today's word execrable.
Speaker 1: I got find it.
Speaker 2: It means like of like beyond just nature. It's like
Speaker 2: like unterwordly worldly.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 2: I think I could be wrong. That's the thing. I'll
Speaker 2: learn a word and then I won't know how to
Speaker 2: use it. But but I know, like there was a
Speaker 2: frustration yesterday of like, why can't I just be as
Speaker 2: smart as these guys. I've heard these words, why don't
Speaker 2: they stick for me in a way that I can
Speaker 2: pull them out at any time? And it was frustrating,
Speaker 2: And I like realizing that limitation in myself made me
Speaker 2: a little bit frustrated. But I think there's some people
Speaker 2: that hear those words and just go, I'm gonna set
Speaker 2: that out. That's not for me. And I don't care
Speaker 2: that I don't know it, And that's fine. I don't
Speaker 2: even think that it's a They don't even think it's
Speaker 2: a thing that they should know or that would make
Speaker 2: them be able to communicate better or seem more cultured
Speaker 2: or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Like I just well, you know what, like that person,
Speaker 1: I love that person. They're a great hang. They'd throw
Speaker 1: you a great birthday party. They're probably gonna be really empathetic.
Speaker 1: I think people like that are generally they have their place.
Speaker 1: It's just not because you know, I think people who
Speaker 1: are like I think what you're describing is somewhat of
Speaker 1: like a perfectionistic quality. And I think people who like
Speaker 1: go with them.
Speaker 2: Don't who hear a word and don't care about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, no, people who care about the words are perfectionists.
Speaker 1: And people who don't care just like whatever, and like
Speaker 1: those people are fun to hang out with.
Speaker 2: They don't take it personally that they don't know.
Speaker 1: Definitely not. And those are and those people can be fans,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I guess I maybe I want to
Speaker 1: step back on what I said about everybody being stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it's stupid. It's not a crime to be.
Speaker 1: Stupid, No, And I think maybe it just people have
Speaker 1: different strengths and weaknesses. But also when I think about
Speaker 1: everyone being stupid, I just pretty much think of the
Speaker 1: Internet and like just reading comments and like how dumb
Speaker 1: everybody is on on Twitter and on comments, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I honestly that's probably not that's probably not
Speaker 1: most of the population is even making comments at all.
Speaker 2: In November, I guess, Yeah, will it's it's it does
Speaker 2: feel disheartening to read Instagram comments, YouTube comments, which I
Speaker 2: don't really do so much of, but Reddit is where
Speaker 2: you go, Oh, people are still smart and really thoughtful.
Speaker 2: I feel like that. Yeah, And it's and it's not
Speaker 2: like just intellectuals on there or anything. It's it pretty
Speaker 2: much is just normal everyday people writing really interesting things
Speaker 2: and like using correct punk punctuation and stuff. And that's
Speaker 2: just like a that's about that's our education system. It's like,
Speaker 2: there are people that are capable of using commas in
Speaker 2: the right place and you're and your knowing the difference
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and they just didn't get good
Speaker 2: teachers and so it's not their fault. But I will
Speaker 2: say about the the sphere thing was so awesome. It's
Speaker 2: called Postcard from Earth and it's pretty much about it's
Speaker 2: like a movie. It's a fifty minute movie by Darren Arnofsky.
Speaker 2: And I saw his movie that Jennifer Lawrence was in
Speaker 2: Mother I think, and it was terrifying. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: really scary and like weird and crazy. So I was
Speaker 2: kind of like, what's this gonn swan Yeah, and oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I saw the Whale and I didn't love the Whale,
Speaker 2: but I liked the way it was shot, and I
Speaker 2: was excited to see what he would do with this.
Speaker 2: It was so pretty, it was so stunning. There were
Speaker 2: breathtaking moments, like you know, it starts out there's an
Speaker 2: alien ship and these aliens that have like been cryogenically frozen.
Speaker 2: They're not aliens, sorry, they're humans, but they're on a
Speaker 2: spaceship and they've been frozen because the war Old ended,
Speaker 2: I guess, and they're waking up on this new world
Speaker 2: and they're learning about where they came from and it's
Speaker 2: called it was called the Earth, and here's what the
Speaker 2: Earth was about. So they take you through and then
Speaker 2: but at first, Brian, Okay, the screen was just a square,
Speaker 2: like the way you would see it a movie theater.
Speaker 2: That's all you were seeing. When the spaceship part was very.
Speaker 1: Small, a very small amount of the actual.
Speaker 2: Sphere big you know, like if you saw that big
Speaker 2: of a screen else. It was a huge screen, but
Speaker 2: it's like not using all the sphere screen. So I
Speaker 2: was like, are they doing this? And again, but it
Speaker 2: was beautiful the way they did it, because I was
Speaker 2: like whispering to Ryan Hamilton, who was in town in
Speaker 2: Vegas at the same time as me, and he went
Speaker 2: with me. I was like, they are not going to
Speaker 2: use the full screen. I go, I cannot believe this.
Speaker 2: I'm filming it for Chris and for you to be like,
Speaker 2: guess what they did to me for a fifty minute movie.
Speaker 2: But then all of a sudden they get to the
Speaker 2: postcard part. So it's like probably like five minutes of
Speaker 2: like the Square, and I'm like, fuck this. And then
Speaker 2: they get to the Earth and it and it opens
Speaker 2: up the whole thing and I go, here we go.
Speaker 2: And it was really nice that they teased it. Yes,
Speaker 2: because they left, they left something.
Speaker 1: Now you can appreciate, you can appreciate what you're seeing.
Speaker 2: It was really good. And then so then you're going over,
Speaker 2: like if you go to Vegas, you have to go
Speaker 2: see the show. And I'm not gonna spoil it for
Speaker 2: you because there's really nothing to spoil. It's just it's
Speaker 2: just scenic and monumental and moving and execrable, the opposite
Speaker 2: of execrable.
Speaker 1: Ine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's inexecrable. Uh, it's it is. It's not preternatural.
Speaker 2: It's all things that are happening on Earth and in nature,
Speaker 2: but not also not all in nature, because first thing,
Speaker 2: so they're going through like a tundra, and you go
Speaker 2: over these mountains and you're going through the Grand Camp,
Speaker 2: over the Grand Canyon, and you're kind of like and
Speaker 2: everyone like is gasping, and it's awesome. And then they're like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: then man came along and they're kind of telling the
Speaker 2: story of Earth, and man was inspired so much by
Speaker 2: the mountains and the tapestries of the forests and and
Speaker 2: and everything that they wanted to build more and in
Speaker 2: architecture they represented that that grandeur and in architecture. And
Speaker 2: then they take you inside cathedrals, which you're like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to go to a cathedrals just in the
Speaker 2: fucking rainforest. But then you're like, whoa, this is even
Speaker 2: cooler because you're in Notre Dame because you're also in
Speaker 2: a theater already, so the air feels the same as
Speaker 2: it would there, so it makes it easy for you
Speaker 2: to feel like you're there. And that was stunning. And
Speaker 2: they're in these mosques and they're in Notre Dame, and
Speaker 2: then and then they're like, okay, now we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about animals. And then they have like a big elephant
Speaker 2: walk up to the camera and like get so close
Speaker 2: to you feel like you're about to be trampled. That
Speaker 2: was really cool. And then you're in a tornado at
Speaker 2: one point and the wind starts blowing and your seat's
Speaker 2: rumbling and your body literally my body was seriously like
Speaker 2: you need to get inside, like there was there was
Speaker 2: something going on in my nervous system that superseded my
Speaker 2: you know, consciousness. That was like you just run because
Speaker 2: it was it felt so real, it was so cool.
Speaker 2: It was so it was fifty minutes, but I will
Speaker 2: say it's a start time of two o'clock, didn't start
Speaker 2: till three, so just take your time getting there.
Speaker 1: What the fuck why?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I thought in Vegas things are.
Speaker 1: Like, yeahdophear not affiliated with the casino at all.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that. But it didn't
Speaker 2: say anywhere on the ticket or like on the info
Speaker 2: that the movie wouldn't start till three. So I got
Speaker 2: there at one forty five and we just sat around,
Speaker 2: which was nice because I got to catch up with
Speaker 2: my friend Ryan. But that's a good thing about working
Speaker 2: in Vegas is that there are always other comics in
Speaker 2: town at other clubs or theaters. Yeah, Colin jos was
Speaker 2: there with SNL people. Oh cool, and uh, we were
Speaker 2: gonna go hang out with them after the show. But
Speaker 2: I'm just such a fucking pussy and lazy and like
Speaker 2: don't like after shows. I just want to go to bed.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what's happening to me. I went
Speaker 2: to Jason Moraz last night, and I had backstage passes,
Speaker 2: and I could have just gone and just said hi,
Speaker 2: yeah and gotten a picture. And I should have because
Speaker 2: I'm learning, like I've recently been having conversation about like
Speaker 2: how to move the dial now that your dial is up,
Speaker 2: where do you want to move it to? And what's
Speaker 2: what's the way to make a splash in this way?
Speaker 2: And like everything and this is I'm not depressed by this.
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. It's about who you're around,
Speaker 2: and like who you're when you reach a certain level.
Speaker 2: It's about who you're friends with, and like, oh, she's
Speaker 2: hanging out with that person, that must mean that she's
Speaker 2: on that level and that that's interesting she must be
Speaker 2: And so there's a part of me that's like I
Speaker 2: want the picture just to set the story, but the
Speaker 2: story is I I'm I know Colin Josin, I know
Speaker 2: Jason raz and I don't need to tell anyone that.
Speaker 2: Can that just be my story without promoting it? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it here, but I mean, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, like, can't that influence who I am as
Speaker 2: an artist and maybe take me to the next level
Speaker 2: just by virtue of knowing them as opposed to like
Speaker 2: telling people I know them? Like does why does that
Speaker 2: have to be it? But it really is that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: there we were talking about. I was talking to someone
Speaker 2: about like what breaks an artist in terms of like
Speaker 2: a music artist, a pop artist, and every example was
Speaker 2: like and then she wrote a song about this guy
Speaker 2: that she was dating that's a famous guy. And then
Speaker 2: this other girl will we that song was about this guy,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh my god, the way girls are
Speaker 2: breaking in is like you have to date someone famous
Speaker 2: and write a song about them.
Speaker 1: Guys can do that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and guys can too. I mean, like it's Taylor's
Speaker 2: old as time in Hollywood to just date someone and
Speaker 2: then suddenly you're elevated. But I just that's not an
Speaker 2: option for me right now at this point. And I'm
Speaker 2: not really interested in finding artificial ways of but.
Speaker 1: It's part of your job. I mean, as as a celebrity,
Speaker 1: it's part of it. It's like how people in offices
Speaker 1: hate doing like salesforce notes, but you just gotta do
Speaker 1: the salesforce notes. You have to post pictures of yourself
Speaker 1: with shack or else you're just gonna be diminished in
Speaker 1: the eyes of the of the Lord.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got like I missed an opportunity to be like,
Speaker 2: look who I'm hanging out with and I but I
Speaker 2: just don't even when I hang out with people, I
Speaker 2: always forget to get a picture and I'm like, was
Speaker 2: that just worthless that I did that? But it isn't
Speaker 2: like I just I don't know. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if I I'm not like sitting the game out or
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm better than the game because I
Speaker 2: understand it, and I do do things just for the
Speaker 2: sake of the story and because they'll be fun. Like
Speaker 2: for example, I am going to I think I'm gonna
Speaker 2: drive two hours after a show I'm doing in Michigan.
Speaker 2: Like I'm doing two shows in Michigan on Friday and
Speaker 2: Saturday coming up, and then on Sunday. I think I'm
Speaker 2: driving two hours to this like small town. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if it's a small town, but it's two
Speaker 2: hours away to a suburb to go watch this eight
Speaker 2: year old boy recreate the Eras concert in his backyard.
Speaker 2: He's like gone viral this week for like doing a
Speaker 2: really good Taylor Swift impression and hitting all the notes
Speaker 2: and being so into it. He was captivating. I mean
Speaker 2: I was. I was craving footage from this kid. Not
Speaker 2: because I'm like, Wow, a kid's doing it. It was
Speaker 2: just like this is good. His voice is good, his
Speaker 2: mannerisms are good. I want to see this, And so
Speaker 2: I wrote some comment. The people that posted the video,
Speaker 2: which is his neighbors, through the consent of his parents,
Speaker 2: posted the video. They're running the account and they're like,
Speaker 2: we're fans. We're gonna come see you in Michigan. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, bring him by. He can't see my show,
Speaker 2: but like, bring him backstage if he cares to meet
Speaker 2: Not that he would care, but I want to meet him. Sure,
Speaker 2: And they go he has a show that night? What show?
Speaker 2: And he goes, They're gonna put on an arast. He's
Speaker 2: gonna do the whole arass thing because they're just posting
Speaker 2: clips here and there, and I go, I want to go.
Speaker 2: I wish I could go, and she goes. We spoke
Speaker 2: to Kellen. He is willing to move the show to
Speaker 2: Sunday if you want to come, and I think I do.
Speaker 2: I don't really have that much time in my schedule
Speaker 2: to do things. But I was they were like, he
Speaker 2: can come to you and maybe you guys can perform
Speaker 2: something together. And I'm like, I don't want to make
Speaker 2: this about me. I don't want to use this eight
Speaker 2: year old for any kind of like video. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be and I literally just want to go see Ara's
Speaker 2: tour through the lens of this kid, And yes, I
Speaker 2: am going to film it and document it because I
Speaker 2: just think it's funny. But that's the kind of thing
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I will go do that because it
Speaker 2: deepened my soul. It is what I want to do
Speaker 2: if there were no cameras around anyway, which is also
Speaker 2: I would like to meet Jason Maraz and hang out
Speaker 2: with Colin Jost. I just was tired and I had
Speaker 2: an early flight the next day, and last night I
Speaker 2: just I was like, I don't know. I'd also in
Speaker 2: me is like do they really want to hang out
Speaker 2: with me? And then that self doubt creeps in. I've
Speaker 2: never been someone with social anxiety, but I do understand
Speaker 2: when people are nervous about going to things that seem fun.
Speaker 1: Sure, the idea of hanging out with you is different
Speaker 1: than actually hanging out with you. It's like what's going
Speaker 1: to actually happen? What's going to fill all that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and last night I kind of had bo because
Speaker 2: I put on dealer Rent early in the morning and
Speaker 2: then I forgot to reapply and I smell myself on
Speaker 2: the way there. I hug him, and I mean, I
Speaker 2: use this stuff that Chris found called really Great, and
Speaker 2: you have to like stir it, oh interesting with a stick,
Speaker 2: and it's charcoal and it's totally natural and it makes
Speaker 2: you smell not at all. Like literally, it'll make you
Speaker 2: not smell for days if you want want application. But
Speaker 2: I kind of got off that train because you have
Speaker 2: to stir it and it sometimes dries out, and so
Speaker 2: I'm just back on like secret, like yeah, pretty much
Speaker 2: like secret. You know, no aluminum.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get new deoderan because the deodorant
Speaker 1: that that's been that I used to use is no
Speaker 1: longer has discontinued, which is so annoying. I fucking hate
Speaker 1: why do people? Why do companies discontinue anything?
Speaker 2: Dude making it, I'm not kidding you, a staple of
Speaker 2: my diet, the like I eat this protein bar at
Speaker 2: least three of them a day, like their meal, like
Speaker 2: they just for me. I like eat protein bars like
Speaker 2: their meals like when I don't, it's I don't even
Speaker 2: want to say it because I don't want people to
Speaker 2: get on board. I don't want people to like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I can picture what it is because I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I literally have. I can't believe they're discontinued,
Speaker 2: only because I should have kept them in business just
Speaker 2: with my one customer, I was eating three.
Speaker 1: A day equals.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go through my Amazon thing, it's
Speaker 2: thousands of boxes. I've ordered these because I ate them
Speaker 2: for probably seven years now, yeap, And they got this
Speaker 2: flavor got discontinued. Fuck, And we went to all the
Speaker 2: grocery stores that carry it because Chris was like, no,
Speaker 2: we will not accept this, and I was like, Babe,
Speaker 2: they're gone, and I'm okay with it. Because this has
Speaker 2: happened as someone with an eating disorder who hyper focuses
Speaker 2: on certain foods. All my girls out there and guys
Speaker 2: that have eating disorders that's hyper focus on a certain
Speaker 2: brand or kind of flavor of something. You know it's
Speaker 2: going to be discontinued eventually, or they're going to change
Speaker 2: the flavor. It happens, and you get a move on
Speaker 2: to something else.
Speaker 1: They'll change the formula and then the thing you once
Speaker 1: loved is now shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or the packaging and it just looks different. Fuck
Speaker 2: is this like? This is even with every This is
Speaker 2: something with probably dozens of products for me. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you're you're we got to go to break but you're
Speaker 2: you're deodorant or you're on the lookout for a new one.
Speaker 1: I think I might have found a new one natural.
Speaker 1: It's all natural.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you this purely great stuff that if
Speaker 2: someone's listening and wants to find adodo that literally makes
Speaker 2: you smell negative like no smell. It's a fucking miracle.
Speaker 2: No natural deodorants are like this. I We've never found one.
Speaker 2: Chris tried them all purely great. You stir it with
Speaker 2: a stick and you have to like ladle it on
Speaker 2: your armpit. But it works, It works real good. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll be back with more after this. So, Brian, you
Speaker 2: have been working on something that just got announced.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so related to this. Actually, I'm going to Vegas tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Oh nice?
Speaker 1: Yeah with uh? With Tim? Tim Dillon is doing shows
Speaker 1: in Vegas. I'm not opening for going.
Speaker 2: Where's he performing?
Speaker 1: The comedy club that's there? What's the comedy club called?
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's lots of them.
Speaker 1: Wise guys, is that right? I don't know. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm now that you mentioned it reminded me that I
Speaker 1: should go to this fear and check out that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like four there's like four showings of it today.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it. It's
Speaker 2: really fun and like just a quick day and it's
Speaker 2: peoful and it was awesome. So yeah, go, so, uh
Speaker 2: you're going with Tim Dillon. Tim has a TV show
Speaker 2: coming out on a special coming out on Netflix, an
Speaker 2: election special, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well it's it's like a talk show. Basically, it's like
Speaker 1: a talk show comedy special that's based around the election,
Speaker 1: and instead of focusing on the candidates, it's focusing on
Speaker 1: the electorate and asking the question do we get what
Speaker 1: we deserve? And it's really like a resurrection of trash
Speaker 1: talk shows from the nineties basically.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, oh my god, where did those go?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, but we need.
Speaker 2: Because we are are We are already primed for them,
Speaker 2: because we grew up with them, We know the format,
Speaker 2: we can recognize it. And also who better to work
Speaker 2: in that kind of atmosphere and wrangle those kinds of people.
Speaker 1: But Tim Dillon, I mean, he's culmination of everything he's
Speaker 1: ever done. It's like the perfect vehicle for him.
Speaker 2: Good it's gonna When I saw the there was like
Speaker 2: a on on Reddit. I saw a post about like,
Speaker 2: we need audience members for this show, for this talk show,
Speaker 2: and we need you to be crazy, like it was
Speaker 2: asking for like unhinged people, rowdy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: And that's before the announcement came and I was like,
Speaker 2: what is And then I talked to another guy who's
Speaker 2: working on it and he kind of told me about
Speaker 2: it too, and I was like, this is perfect. And
Speaker 2: the greatest part about it is that if it's a
Speaker 2: shit show, which it sounds like it'll be, that's the goal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and Tim thrives in those environments. I just
Speaker 2: cannot wait to see this. Yes, I'll watch anything that
Speaker 2: man does, but especially this kind of just him him,
Speaker 2: He is just he's so he gets along with everyone.
Speaker 2: He has a way of being making everyone feel seen,
Speaker 2: everyone feel comfortable, making everyone feel funny and a pre shaated,
Speaker 2: while also sneaking in just like devastating critiques of people
Speaker 2: without them really noticing, especially if they're not the smartest
Speaker 2: and the quickest, Like he is just an ability to
Speaker 2: He's just so good. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Is it's going to be amazing. I mean I said
Speaker 1: this in the pitch deck. I said, this will be
Speaker 1: the most accurate portrayal of America that television has ever seen. Ooh,
Speaker 1: I think it will be. And yeah, And there was
Speaker 1: a deadline article out yesterday and it was my first
Speaker 1: ever mentioned in an industry trade.
Speaker 2: You were in it, yes, yeah, first ever.
Speaker 1: Which is you know, I've been like a showrunner before,
Speaker 1: I've been EPs on things before, but I've never had
Speaker 1: a deadline article. Yes, and so this was a big
Speaker 1: moment for Team bry Oh.
Speaker 2: Deadline is everything in the business.
Speaker 1: That's like me getting a picture with Jason Moranz, like
Speaker 1: I need to do these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need that deadline. That is exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: It's currency in this business. I've always said, like the
Speaker 2: deadline article is probably a bigger splash then, honestly, like
Speaker 2: the poster for the show that you have coming out
Speaker 2: if you post it like yeah, or even the show itself,
Speaker 2: Like more people care about the deadline article.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating like it sounds like I'm just saying
Speaker 2: something to say something. I truly get more attention when
Speaker 2: I post a deadline thing of like I might be
Speaker 2: doing this show than when the show comes out. Without question,
Speaker 2: it's wild. So that's really exciting. And you're filming it
Speaker 2: in August filming it.
Speaker 1: We're filming it in August. And if you're bestie and
Speaker 1: you're in the LA area and you're interested in going
Speaker 1: to the taping, then.
Speaker 2: Dude, you gotta go. I would go.
Speaker 1: If I could go, message me on Instagram and I
Speaker 1: will forward you the link and then I'll just make
Speaker 1: sure that you're selected. You know, there's limited seats or whatever.
Speaker 2: But how intensely are you working on this right now?
Speaker 1: It's pretty intense. It's like, uh, it's I'm feeling it
Speaker 1: in my body like I I did not, like my
Speaker 1: wife Ali said, yeah yesterday, like she literally said, like,
Speaker 1: can you calm down, cause I'm just like pacing around
Speaker 1: the house like I'm on the phone like twenty four
Speaker 1: to seven doing the equivalent of yelling. But it's, you know,
Speaker 1: just me talking like when I'm when I'm amped up
Speaker 1: and I'm like doing like business chatter. It's it's always.
Speaker 2: Sounds like yelling upset.
Speaker 1: I sound upset, and I'm just on that mode. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just on that mode like probably like ten hours
Speaker 1: a day. And I didn't even realize like how amped
Speaker 1: I've been, Like I was, I was, I feel calmed,
Speaker 1: thick because I did some stuff to calm myself down
Speaker 1: over the last couple of days. But I've been like
Speaker 1: adrenaline fuel super amped, you know, my typical Like did
Speaker 1: just first of all, just recognize that, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: recognize I was like going out one hundred miles an
Speaker 1: hour super amped, And I didn't even realize how much
Speaker 1: stress I had until I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been yelling for like fourteen straight days,
Speaker 1: going out one hundred miles an hour and I didn't
Speaker 1: even notice, and my wife had to say, can you
Speaker 1: calm down?
Speaker 2: Well, it's good you didn't notice that. I feel like
Speaker 2: usually you're have residual like pains.
Speaker 1: People, Well I did. I was like suffering through incredible
Speaker 1: amounts of pain. But that's just par for the course.
Speaker 2: What did you do? What did you do? You like,
Speaker 2: did breathing stuff or meditation or.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like rounds from the DNRS program, which I've
Speaker 1: talked about before. I've done just like just being recognizing it,
Speaker 1: calming down, breathing. And then also I've returned to therapy
Speaker 1: for the first time. Oh, therapy again. I've done two
Speaker 1: sessions now with like a pain psychology therapist. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the same therapist I had six years ago. Great when
Speaker 1: I initially started and I stopped seeing her because I
Speaker 1: started doing the DNRS program. And let me tell you,
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating to resume a relationship with someone that
Speaker 1: you haven't seen for precisely six years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because pre COVID.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a long enough amount of time for like
Speaker 1: things to change in your life, but not so long
Speaker 1: that you're like, of course things have changed. Like if
Speaker 1: you see someone from high school that you haven't seen
Speaker 1: in twenty years, and they're like, I have kids now
Speaker 1: and I'm married and I work for this. Like you're like,
Speaker 1: of course you do, Like why wouldn't things have changed?
Speaker 1: But six years ago is close enough that you're like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: that is surprising. So like, for example, when I first
Speaker 1: started seeing this therapist six years ago, I just started
Speaker 1: dating Ali. Oh wow, I didn't talk to her for
Speaker 1: six full years, and I get to say, by the way, oh,
Speaker 1: she said, are you how how is dating that girl?
Speaker 2: Ali?
Speaker 1: How did that go? Like she asked that question that
Speaker 1: basically yeah, yeah, she definitely checked her notes, and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm married now to her in fact,
Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah, And it's just exactly, it's like
Speaker 1: a time capsule as opposed to like someone who I
Speaker 1: knew as a child in camp who's like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing now?
Speaker 2: Duff though that you were like, man, I haven't changed.
Speaker 1: A lot, yeah, I mean so far. Just like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm still like a suffering you know, and
Speaker 1: like that's annoying.
Speaker 2: I actually canceled my therapy session last I go every
Speaker 2: other week at this point because I've been doing pretty
Speaker 2: well and I canceled last week because I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't really have anything. I just wrote toward the
Speaker 2: day of I was like, I know I'm getting charged
Speaker 2: for this, but like, I just don't have anything that
Speaker 2: I need to like talk about or yeah or piece
Speaker 2: together or make sense of. And I know that's not
Speaker 2: what therapy is always for. It's just sometimes just good
Speaker 2: to do. But I'm like, I just I'm sorry. I
Speaker 2: just like she doesn't fucking care. But I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sorry. And then oh, immediately this and I
Speaker 2: was almost like, maybe I'll just stop, you know, like
Speaker 2: maybe in my life is perfect now and I don't
Speaker 2: have anything to complain about. And of course it creeps
Speaker 2: back in eventually, but it's kind of nice to have
Speaker 2: someone who's a little bit on call.
Speaker 1: But you don't you don't have to do therapy every
Speaker 1: week for the rest of your life, like it can be. Like,
Speaker 1: especially after you develop a foundation of concepts and tools
Speaker 1: you can use and an understanding of like what your
Speaker 1: specific deal is, you should be able to like take
Speaker 1: those tools out into the wild and use them and
Speaker 1: you can return to therapy whenever you want. You don't,
Speaker 1: you don't have to don't. You don't. You shouldn't have
Speaker 1: to rely on them for every week for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. You should feel okay being like you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm good. Maybe you have to come back
Speaker 1: in a year or two, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just tough for I just think about
Speaker 2: their business model and like, okay, if I if I
Speaker 2: just go, actually, I'm not going to do this week,
Speaker 2: and I give her enough notice that she does. She
Speaker 2: has an open space, but she doesn't make money off
Speaker 2: of it. Like I've kind of fucked her over by
Speaker 2: being like I'll just pick.
Speaker 1: And it's like canceling Netflix and on watching everything in
Speaker 1: a month, then canceling it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I feel well that I wouldn't feel bad about,
Speaker 2: but this on Like I'm just like she doesn't have
Speaker 2: time to feel like I just feel obligated to well.
Speaker 1: But it's not like you're just doing it for a week.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you feel that way, but it's
Speaker 1: not like you're just seeing her for a week and
Speaker 1: then bouncing. You're seeing her for like eight months a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you're bouncing for a long time and coming back.
Speaker 1: That's okay, Yeah, that should be expected.
Speaker 2: That's true. I just I do couples therapy too. I
Speaker 2: just can't do too much of it. It's just and
Speaker 2: I do voice lessons, like there's just some seems to
Speaker 2: be a lot of there's a lot of like talking
Speaker 2: about my limitations that I can only take so much of.
Speaker 2: And then I do this podcast and talk about him too.
Speaker 2: I just can only take so much every week. But
Speaker 2: I will say that I am creeping back into meditation
Speaker 2: because I had nice reminders of it. I'm reading Ian Carmel. Carmel, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a comedian writer, was writer on James Gordon for
Speaker 2: the whole time. I think he ended up head writer
Speaker 2: of it. But he is so funny. And he wrote
Speaker 2: this book called The Wet t Shirt Club, and it's
Speaker 2: about being fat, fat kid, fat fat adult and his
Speaker 2: experience with being fat and society's just they're drilling into
Speaker 2: our heads that it's wrong, and how he grew like
Speaker 2: growing up in the early two thousands, late nineties, how
Speaker 2: was just so bad to be a fat kid because
Speaker 2: that was like the punchline to everything. There was nobody acceptance,
Speaker 2: all the stuff. Yeah, fascinating read so funny, so funny,
Speaker 2: But then he kind of talks about how meditation is
Speaker 2: now a part of his self care program. And even
Speaker 2: just like reading that, I literally put the book down,
Speaker 2: was like, let me just try it for five minutes,
Speaker 2: like it really talked me into it again, and I
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, let me just do this. And then
Speaker 2: I'm kind of picking it back up. And then last
Speaker 2: night I went to see Jason Moraz and he was
Speaker 2: doing like breath exercises during the show with the audience.
Speaker 2: He was like, let's all take a deep breath, wow,
Speaker 2: and just let it out, and then he did. He
Speaker 2: was talking to us about just like being in the
Speaker 2: moment because he was talking about, you know that song
Speaker 2: that he has, that's the remedy, is the experience, this
Speaker 2: is the dangerous Liaison said. The comedy is that it's serious.
Speaker 2: He talked about that that song was written when he
Speaker 2: had just gotten a recording contract and his life was
Speaker 2: like blowing up and it was, you know, thirty years
Speaker 2: ago or whatever. And right when this happened, his best
Speaker 2: friend got diagnosed with leukemia and he was really having
Speaker 2: a struggle, like dealing with the fact that he was
Speaker 2: having this amazing moment and that his friend was having
Speaker 2: this awful moment and they both grew up in the
Speaker 2: same neighborhood. They drank the same water and like dated
Speaker 2: the same girl, Like how could this be happened? Like?
Speaker 2: And then he was telling his friend about this and
Speaker 2: his friend was like, man, I just I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: worry my life away, which is a lyric in the song.
Speaker 2: He was like, the remedy, the remedy is just living
Speaker 2: like it's being present. It's just living right now. It's
Speaker 2: not worrying about anything like the outcome. The remedy is
Speaker 2: the experience and being present. And that song, it just
Speaker 2: breathed new life into that song. And then he also
Speaker 2: had a funny thing that was like, let's all take
Speaker 2: a deep breath together right now and we all breathe in,
Speaker 2: breathe out, and he goes, okay, let's take a deep
Speaker 2: breath yesterday. Let's take one tomorrow. And we're all like
Speaker 2: what and he goes, Yep, you can't do that. All
Speaker 2: you have whenever you're worried about yesterday, whenever you're about tomorrow,
Speaker 2: take a deep breath and get centered in right now.
Speaker 2: And then he had another great affers, if that's the word, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know.
Speaker 2: That he said that his friend who he brought out
Speaker 2: on stage to sing with him. They wrote a song
Speaker 2: about be in your feet or be where your feet are,
Speaker 2: So if you're worrying about something and you're freaking out
Speaker 2: and you're like tripping out about the future of the past,
Speaker 2: look at your feet and just like be where your
Speaker 2: feet are. And that just fucking helped me last night too,
Speaker 2: because I was like kind of spiraling last night because
Speaker 2: it was an outdoor concert and there was kind of
Speaker 2: like rump. I wasn't getting good cell phone service, and
Speaker 2: there was definitely like a vibe in the air, like
Speaker 2: the irons on the air felt tornadoish, and there were
Speaker 2: storm clouds and there was thunder in the distance, and
Speaker 2: it's out in this area of Saint Louis that's really
Speaker 2: like flat land where it's almost tornado y. And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, we wouldn't get tornado signal.
Speaker 2: Tornadoes come out of nowhere. Even weathermen can't really predict them.
Speaker 2: Our phones are not getting signals to even check the weather.
Speaker 2: And it's getting like blustery, and then and then I realized,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Okay, so then it was blustery, right,
Speaker 2: it was like windy, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: tornado's coming. And I was like, we should probably leave.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, it got really calm
Speaker 2: and the and the wind stopped, and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh good, it's stopped. And then I go, wait a second,
Speaker 2: the calm before the storm. So I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And then I realized nothing could happen in
Speaker 2: that moment that wouldn't allow my brain to convince myself
Speaker 2: that the tornado is coming. If it's calm, if it's windy,
Speaker 2: no matter what, a tornado's coming. And then he said
Speaker 2: the thing about be where your feet are, and I
Speaker 2: just was like, Okay, if I die in tornado right now,
Speaker 2: it's fine, Like I am away, I'm doing my best.
Speaker 1: To avoid that tornado. Your feet would go off the
Speaker 1: ground and you'd be floating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my feet, Oh, I would get probably bisected by
Speaker 2: a stop sign, and then my feet.
Speaker 1: Would be your feet would the ground You can't.
Speaker 2: Miles from where my body would be found. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so I just like I needed that reminder of like
Speaker 2: be present. And then also another thing that like kind
Speaker 2: of you know, I think we're always getting these messages
Speaker 2: and they just sink in when we need them. Have
Speaker 2: you seen Neil Brennan's latest special, the.
Speaker 1: One where he's had Yeah, yeah, well I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I listened to it while playing basketball, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: I listened to it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I listened to it down two times of speed because
Speaker 2: that's just how I do things. And I was closing
Speaker 2: my eyes because I was trying to sleep, but I
Speaker 2: was like, let me put on something that's inspiring. I
Speaker 2: stayed awake the whole time. I thought it was fucking
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it.
Speaker 2: Was nearly every joke was like a closer level of
Speaker 2: joke in terms of just like I don't know acuity,
Speaker 2: and the just making me think about a thing in
Speaker 2: a way I never have, and like kind of like
Speaker 2: sending me off with a new perception of how I
Speaker 2: used to compare things. His comparison from female organisms to
Speaker 2: the uber app is worse than watching the whole special alone,
Speaker 2: because that was so fucking good and so on point.
Speaker 2: I love when an analogy isn't just for comedic's sake,
Speaker 2: but actually explains something in such a genuine way that
Speaker 2: you don't really have to stretch too far to make
Speaker 2: it fit. It was amazing, but he said in the
Speaker 2: special about all these influencers. You know, he calls them
Speaker 2: like I forget what he calls him, like like clasp hand,
Speaker 2: where they like kind of do this and they go
Speaker 2: hey man, and and a lot of them have the
Speaker 2: story of especially the women of like trauma and how
Speaker 2: like no one believed in me and I did it.
Speaker 2: And he's like, no one thinks about you. And I've
Speaker 2: heard that said before, and so at first I was like,
Speaker 2: where's this going, and he goes, there's no one sitting
Speaker 2: up at night being like, ah, I hope that bitch
Speaker 2: doesn't starts her own I hope that bitch doesn't start
Speaker 2: her own business. And that was so funny to me,
Speaker 2: because no one is thinking about you, even if you're
Speaker 2: someone in the spotlight, like they might comment shit, but
Speaker 2: they're not really preoccupied with you. And so my failures
Speaker 2: or my limitations are really only my own to fret over,
Speaker 2: and that is my own choice. And I don't really
Speaker 2: need to think about how I'm perceived, because yes I'm perceived,
Speaker 2: but it really I know this, but it doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter and it all amounts to nothing in the end. Ah,
Speaker 2: Oh were in my life? Oh, I was like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, yeah, we all in on too nothing. In
Speaker 2: the end, let's not fret about this stuff. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, work needs to be done, and the
Speaker 2: only way to get work done is to work.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I will say this there, I do
Speaker 1: have a list of about five to seven people who
Speaker 1: I do wish would not succeed in their own business.
Speaker 1: I think about that. I have about seven five enemies
Speaker 1: that I'm like, you know, once a week, I'm like,
Speaker 1: let me see what they're doing, really, really, absolutely absolutely
Speaker 1: five and five enemies who have done me wrong, who
Speaker 1: when when I see them fail, I go get what
Speaker 1: you deserve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well let's take that apart when we get
Speaker 2: back from the rank. Okay, So you have these enemies
Speaker 2: me like that you hope do not succeed because you
Speaker 2: probably think they're like not talented. They either they probably
Speaker 2: scorned you in some way, or I'm guessing they just
Speaker 2: aren't that talented, and you're like resentful of their success?
Speaker 2: Is that mostly it?
Speaker 1: No, No, these are no, I'm never resentful of people's
Speaker 1: success that have nothing to do with me. It's people
Speaker 1: who have actively hurt me in this business or in
Speaker 1: you know, that have done things that are like that.
Speaker 1: We were that conflicted with my goals. Yeah, and I go,
Speaker 1: if I ever get the chance to to sabotage you,
Speaker 1: I will, and if you ever fail, I will laugh.
Speaker 1: And if you succeed, I'll be upset. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I I could let go of that. I could let
Speaker 1: go of that.
Speaker 2: But I think I can help everyone with this. When
Speaker 2: someone you hate succeeds, just know that nothing lasts forever,
Speaker 2: and the only worst thing than not succeeding is when
Speaker 2: you succeed and then you lose it, which everyone will.
Speaker 2: No one just keeps succeeding, except like bezos, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, no one on have a downfall.
Speaker 2: Someone's business that everyone's talking about, or some recipe they
Speaker 2: made on TikTok and they're getting a bunch of attention
Speaker 2: or they post They're like some some girl from your
Speaker 2: group of friends who's like, has a following in some
Speaker 2: way and she thinks she's hot shit, She's a eventually
Speaker 2: gonna lose that in some way. Either she's not going
Speaker 2: to keep growing in the way she wants, or it's
Speaker 2: gonna stagnate and there's going to be a severe disappointment
Speaker 2: in herself. And I only know this because I've experienced
Speaker 2: it myself, and it's my own thing that I think about.
Speaker 2: The second I get anything, I always just think about
Speaker 2: when I'm gonna lose it, So just I think about
Speaker 2: that when I get jealous of other people, that they
Speaker 2: will lose it. Yeah, and that's soothing to me, because
Speaker 2: that hurts worse than maybe never even getting it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to be clear, this isn't jealousy.
Speaker 1: This is just as pure animosity. For no, I get
Speaker 1: directed at these people that I just want to be
Speaker 1: a well yeah if they got things, and then I
Speaker 1: was like why, But even if they don't have things,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just want you to fail. And I
Speaker 1: know this makes me sound like a bad person. I
Speaker 1: probably should really know, I should release myself of this anger,
Speaker 1: Like you know, when you it's like drinking poison and
Speaker 1: expecting it to hurt the other person. But no, I
Speaker 1: believe that everybody should have at least five enemies, and
Speaker 1: if you don't have five enemies, you're just not trying
Speaker 1: hard enough. You're not trying to succeed something wrong. Even
Speaker 1: know five.
Speaker 2: Enemies, I really can't think of a single enemy I have.
Speaker 2: Maybe I can think of some people, but I don't
Speaker 2: really wish them ill. I can think of some people
Speaker 2: I just don't want to run into because they cause
Speaker 2: me stress and I don't want to deal with their bullshit,
Speaker 2: and I know that they could suck me back in
Speaker 2: and like kind of ruin my life. And if they
Speaker 2: even it's almost like the way I felt in high school,
Speaker 2: where like there's some people like the class clown or
Speaker 2: the guy that the kid that makes fun of people's looks.
Speaker 2: I would just want to be invisible to that guy,
Speaker 2: you know. And that's kind of the way I feel
Speaker 2: about these people, is that I think they might know
Speaker 2: the truth about me, and I want to be very
Speaker 2: silent to them so that they don't call it out
Speaker 2: and make fun of me to other people or something.
Speaker 2: I think that's my my enemy. It's probably like someone
Speaker 2: like you that i've you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: the way you feel about these people is probably the
Speaker 2: way that they feel about me, Like I'm somehow wronged.
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. When I have these enemies,
Speaker 1: I don't want them to get sick. I don't want
Speaker 1: them to be some tragedy to befall them I don't
Speaker 1: want them to be even sad. I just want them
Speaker 1: to specifically fail at the thing that they that's sad.
Speaker 1: Usually that's worse sick.
Speaker 2: I would rather be sick than fail at my career, honestly.
Speaker 1: I mean, but these weld it most people. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, okay, I ask.
Speaker 2: You this, Okay. The other day we were talking about
Speaker 2: the submarine. Yeah, the Spade has a joke about it
Speaker 2: where he's like, I missed that crazy little suck. He
Speaker 2: talks about it, and so we were talking about it,
Speaker 2: and Bobby U Miamoto, who opens for US in Vegas sometimes,
Speaker 2: he was there and he was saying, that's not like
Speaker 2: the worst way to die, because I was talking about
Speaker 2: how they probably actually died, which Bill Dixon, who you're
Speaker 2: working with on Tim Dillon's thing. Yes, Bill Dixon enlightened
Speaker 2: me to how the we all think the sub just
Speaker 2: like all of a sudden, it was like like and
Speaker 2: it just imploded and they died in a split second
Speaker 2: and they didn't even know.
Speaker 1: Mhm.
Speaker 2: But what's more likely and this is the thing I
Speaker 2: just it's almost like the human centipede where I've ruined
Speaker 2: it for my mom and now she can't get it
Speaker 2: out of her head. Yeah, like literally ear muffs for
Speaker 2: people if you want to not hear about a horrific death.
Speaker 2: But they probably lost power and started plummeting down nose diving,
Speaker 2: all alive. And then it was imploded as soon as
Speaker 2: it reached the pressure that it was going to have
Speaker 2: that pressure happen. But at first it was a lot
Speaker 2: of screaming and the toilet emptying to the bottom, and
Speaker 2: them all like all five of them kind of in
Speaker 2: the nose of it, climbing all over each other, screaming
Speaker 2: to death until it imploded. Noisy, and that sounds horrific, right,
Speaker 2: But then Bobby was like, that's I mean, in the
Speaker 2: scheme of things, it's not the worst. I go, how
Speaker 2: is that not the worst? And he goes, It's better
Speaker 2: than dying of like some kind of long term cancer.
Speaker 2: And I'm maybe I'm naive, but I would take long
Speaker 2: term cancer. And I don't have any experience with it,
Speaker 2: not even like close personally people in my life that
Speaker 2: have died of cancer. It was pretty quickly. I just
Speaker 2: don't know that I would ever. I don't know that
Speaker 2: I could choose the submarine over that.
Speaker 1: I just don't like to think. When people ask like
Speaker 1: hypotheticals like this, I just say I don't want to
Speaker 1: answer this question.
Speaker 2: To answer, oh yeah, you sit these out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like yeah, I remember someone.
Speaker 2: That's like me, asking like ranking Taylor Swift stuff. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: no comment, not gonna. No song is better than the other,
Speaker 2: No one is worse.
Speaker 1: Everything's great, thinking of thinking of way as you possibly
Speaker 1: die as like my Taylor Swift. Yeah, it's like the opposite.
Speaker 2: Oh you went, No, you are obsessed with it, like
Speaker 2: you don't think about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anytime you have free time, that's what you do.
Speaker 1: With it pretty much.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Someone one time I was at like a Christmas party
Speaker 1: or something, and someone was like, uh, what would you
Speaker 1: rather have happen? Have your hands cut off or your
Speaker 1: feet cut off? And my answer to that was, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with you? That was my answer.
Speaker 2: Well, that person probably was struggling with social anxiety and
Speaker 2: had looked up some fun or No.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. It wasn't we were friends, we're friends.
Speaker 1: This was It wasn't like some stranger came to me
Speaker 1: and Greg though his name was, it wasn't Greg.
Speaker 2: I think I would rather that's a really tough one.
Speaker 2: I think that's interesting.
Speaker 1: These are these I don't want to think about question.
Speaker 2: But also thinking about things like makes them happen. Like
Speaker 2: I had a oh my god, I had a vision
Speaker 2: the other really horrible vision. I've been having, like almost
Speaker 2: final destination vision.
Speaker 1: You're doing this twisters thing out in theaters now, by
Speaker 1: the way out.
Speaker 2: In theaters now, and there's no romance in it. Not
Speaker 2: interested if Glenn Palell's not making out. I don't want
Speaker 2: to see it. But actually we are excited to see it.
Speaker 2: Chris and I we're pal heads. But I have been
Speaker 2: visioning and envisioning these horrific things, which is not something
Speaker 2: that I my mind would usually go to and I
Speaker 2: s and then I try to like shake it off,
Speaker 2: and I go, god, I don't want that. But then
Speaker 2: I also have been looking so much into manifestation stuff
Speaker 2: and visualization and how that can help it happen that
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the get this out of my head now?
Speaker 1: And it's making it worse.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's making it so worse. Final thought. Yesterday, Okay,
Speaker 2: so I got a I got a new car, right,
Speaker 2: I'm leasing a Mercedes three point fifty e q E
Speaker 2: electric car Formatic. It's amazing. It's fast, it has like
Speaker 2: a light show inside. I can make it pink. It's
Speaker 2: like a tailor swift car. It has a white interior,
Speaker 2: it's black on the outside. It's beautiful. It's so fucking cool.
Speaker 2: It has like the body of an MG or an AMG.
Speaker 2: It is the wheels, it's it's like so interesting and unique.
Speaker 2: And people have said nice car to me when I
Speaker 2: drive past. But it's not like over the top. It's
Speaker 2: not like the one I was driving the AMG. I
Speaker 2: was driving around that lots of noise, and it's not chrome.
Speaker 2: It's just it just is. Fuck it. It's the best car.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy with it. Chris really helped me find it.
Speaker 2: He set it up so that they just dropped the
Speaker 2: car off it to me. I signed some papers. I
Speaker 2: didn't have to stay there all day. Beautiful. I've had
Speaker 2: this car for a week. Yesterday. I have a garage
Speaker 2: on my apartment building. When you enter the garage, you
Speaker 2: have like a little key card up in your rear
Speaker 2: view mirror or a it's supposed to like stick on
Speaker 2: your windshield, but I always have to wave it because
Speaker 2: it doesn't the sensor doesn't connect. But I also a
Speaker 2: tint on my mom's car that I was driving before,
Speaker 2: so we would wave it. Chris goes, you don't have
Speaker 2: to wave it this time. Keep it up in the
Speaker 2: flap and when you drive up, if you get close enough,
Speaker 2: it will sense it. So he showed me a couple times.
Speaker 2: As we were driving it. I was like, Oh, that works.
Speaker 2: I tried it yesterday morning and I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to get too close. This is making me nervous. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna like pull it out and wave. It worked, okay.
Speaker 2: So I got in and I go, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: go back to waving it. This is too risky because
Speaker 2: I have before with my mom's Lexus gotten too close
Speaker 2: the garage door opened and it like flipped the license plate,
Speaker 2: like bent the license plate and caught the license plate.
Speaker 2: So I was like, not gonna do that again. But
Speaker 2: I didn't really think of like what could happen on
Speaker 2: a different car or like in a different way. And
Speaker 2: Chris had never had this happen to him. So Chris
Speaker 2: is driving my car yesterday home from the mechanic where
Speaker 2: we had brought my mom's car to have that license
Speaker 2: plate unbent, among other things, before we return it back
Speaker 2: to them and driving my new car home, we get
Speaker 2: to the garage and Chris is not taking it out
Speaker 2: of the visor because he knows that he can get
Speaker 2: close enough that it will sense it. He's getting really
Speaker 2: really close close, and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: garage opens great, and then there is a snag and
Speaker 2: there is an explosive sound, and it rips my front bumper.
Speaker 2: Oh off, cracks like the salac like beautiful coating that's
Speaker 2: on the front, rips off the Mercedes logo. The Mercedes
Speaker 2: as if I was in the movie Twister flies up.
Speaker 2: There is shrapnel all over. It's like five different pieces
Speaker 2: flying so violently in there, crashes.
Speaker 1: Down on what the fuck this happened?
Speaker 2: Rips dude, it's and Chris is like, he is good
Speaker 2: with machines. He knows how to use them, he knows
Speaker 2: how to wield them. He is in touch with them.
Speaker 2: He does not make mistakes. He is someone who is
Speaker 2: so good about treating things and machinery and objects and
Speaker 2: pieces of art and arc and structure with such respect.
Speaker 2: And he he just goes, oh my god, and I go,
Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. He goes, no, no,
Speaker 2: He gets out of the car. He looks at it
Speaker 2: and he just holds his head like oh no. He
Speaker 2: falls to the ground, is cradling his head and is
Speaker 2: like catatonic, like cannot speak, just going I'm so sorry,
Speaker 2: Oh my god. I'm just in the passenger seat and
Speaker 2: I refuse to get out because I don't even want
Speaker 2: to see the damages.
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's the least. It's yeah, and leases are sacred.
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I just like I can understand his reaction because I
Speaker 1: grew up with when dealing with leases, people drilled into
Speaker 1: my brain that nothing bad can happen to a least car,
Speaker 1: or you'll pay seven hundred thousand dollars though oh we'll
Speaker 1: never be able to drive again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that did not get in either of
Speaker 2: our heads because he I think was just like, this
Speaker 2: is going to cost us a lot. But I don't
Speaker 2: think it was about the lease. It was just about
Speaker 2: and he's just embarrassed that he'd made this dumb error.
Speaker 1: But he is. The damage is so comical, but he.
Speaker 2: Will not like get off the ground, like I am
Speaker 2: seriously sitting there for like probably ninety seconds with the
Speaker 2: dog in my lap, going babe, yeah it's okay, and
Speaker 2: he's just like no, no, and nearly in tears. I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry. I'm so glaze. Oh god, he can't even
Speaker 2: like make words. It's like, I, this is is the
Speaker 2: wor and I go I'm like, it could be so
Speaker 2: much worse. We could have gotten into a collision, We
Speaker 2: could have the dog could have gotten run over. Like
Speaker 2: a million accidents happen all the time, accidents happened to everyone.
Speaker 2: This is a relatively funny fine one. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 2: cost a lot of money. It's embarrassing. It's unfortunate because
Speaker 2: this is a brand new car. And I never have
Speaker 2: nice things. And we had just literally a minute before this,
Speaker 2: we had just listened to Taylor Swifts this is why
Speaker 2: we can't have nice things. And I was like scream
Speaker 2: singing that, and he was just so sad. He collected
Speaker 2: all the pieces, he put the back in the car.
Speaker 2: We drive into the garage just silently and he's just like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe this. I can't believe this. And we
Speaker 2: get out. I'm like, I'm not even gonna look at it.
Speaker 2: I'm with the dog. The dog is so alarmed by Chris,
Speaker 2: Like the dog is in tune with us, right, and
Speaker 2: so the dog knows something is fucking wrong. Even though
Speaker 2: I'm staying calm, I'm not expressing. I'm just like grateful
Speaker 2: that it's I'm like, in the scheme of things, we
Speaker 2: would be begging for this to happen. If any other
Speaker 2: accident happened that's worse than this, we'd be like, God,
Speaker 2: I wish the front of my car was ripped off
Speaker 2: by the garage. I was like, it's this, This is
Speaker 2: a blessing, I promise you, and we'll laugh about it someday.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to make light of it. And then the
Speaker 2: dog runs under my car to hide from the anxiety
Speaker 2: that it feels in the air. Itally felt the ions
Speaker 2: change and takes. The dog's never like hid from us
Speaker 2: because it's scared or anything. And it's not like Chris
Speaker 2: was like throwing things. He was just like so sad
Speaker 2: that the dog like didn't want to be a part
Speaker 2: of it. So we just like coax the dog out
Speaker 2: of the under the car and collect all the pieces.
Speaker 2: And Chris is just like he used to get on
Speaker 2: a call within three minutes to like go a zoom
Speaker 2: call that he is for work and he's just I
Speaker 2: hear him on there, just telling the story and just
Speaker 2: being like and he just can't stop apologizing. And I
Speaker 2: just have to say, I'm very proud of myself because
Speaker 2: I did not care at all, and I know that
Speaker 2: speaks to the fact that I have money and it's
Speaker 2: Money's not a but it does. Money is something to
Speaker 2: me and it is going to cost money. And we
Speaker 2: had just gotten done with this where I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I want to get to a point
Speaker 2: where my money is Chris's money, and like, if he
Speaker 2: wants to spend something on something stupid like it, it
Speaker 2: should come out of my money, because like we're a
Speaker 2: partnership and he helps me be better and if he
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of money or enough money and
Speaker 2: what he does to live the life that I want
Speaker 2: him to live. Then we'd just gotten done talking about it,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I think you should pay for
Speaker 2: this one, but but no, that's what I was like, No,
Speaker 2: I'll pay for it. It's fine because your mistakes are
Speaker 2: my mistakes. Is what a partnership is. I forgive you.
Speaker 2: I think even max verst st I was like, Babe,
Speaker 2: max Verstappen would have made the same mistake. He was like, no,
Speaker 2: that guy knows every he would have studied the car.
Speaker 2: He would have studied And I was like, no, no,
Speaker 2: he wouldn't. Like this is not because you're a bad driver.
Speaker 2: You can still do F one. But I was proud
Speaker 2: of myself that I did not do what my mom
Speaker 2: or my dad I think would have done. Situation, which
Speaker 2: is why did you Why do you think that you
Speaker 2: can just drive up to the thing and you you
Speaker 2: think you could get that close? Why can't you just
Speaker 2: take it out of the damn visor and and shake it?
Speaker 2: Why do you always like I just knew what my
Speaker 2: mom would be saying, and like they you know, I
Speaker 2: think people so often just want to find a blame
Speaker 2: of like why did this happen? And why did you
Speaker 2: ruin my thing? And I went to my girl's chat
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm really proud of myself because
Speaker 2: I did not blame him. I didn't care. I forgave
Speaker 2: it immediately. I was like laughing about it, It will
Speaker 2: be okay. And I think that is something I wish
Speaker 2: more people. I think I was just doing the golden rule,
Speaker 2: because when I make mistakes, I just want people to
Speaker 2: be easier about it because they they have to know
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to do that. Yeah, and I think
Speaker 2: that I just knew that. There I go, Babe, there's
Speaker 2: no way on earth you would ever do anything to
Speaker 2: harm this car. You're obsessed with this car. You found
Speaker 2: this car for me. You were the one that convinced
Speaker 2: me that I deserve nice things and that I should
Speaker 2: have this and that it's worth you know, and you
Speaker 2: were the one that talked the price down and negotiated,
Speaker 2: like you you wouldn't do this on like who, I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna like hold you at fault for it, but
Speaker 2: it was it was just a lesson. And he was like,
Speaker 2: I really do appreciate how you, he goes. The only
Speaker 2: thing about you that I don't like when it comes
Speaker 2: to money is that you don't know how much you have,
Speaker 2: but you really do. You have a good relationship with
Speaker 2: like objects and things. And I remember and Anya said
Speaker 2: to me, she was like, if that were me, i'd
Speaker 2: be pissed because it's my car and I don't like
Speaker 2: think people touching my things. And I just don't I
Speaker 2: don't have that your car.
Speaker 1: It's owned by the bank.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. It's someone else's car in the future,
Speaker 2: and they'll never know. I mean, the car facts will
Speaker 2: show what happened, but it'll be as good as new.
Speaker 2: But he did get some glues, so we're just gonna
Speaker 2: glue things together. We can take it to the right place.
Speaker 2: But you are everything, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a comical result of that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a comical kind of accident, like the
Speaker 1: garage door lifting up something. But then the amount of
Speaker 1: damage that occurred is is like it's like a Charlie
Speaker 1: Chaplin movie.
Speaker 2: Plastic pieces down on us as if we were in Twister,
Speaker 2: and it was just like there was no cars behind us,
Speaker 2: there was no urgency. It just happened in this like
Speaker 2: vacuum where we were alone to just see our car
Speaker 2: get fucked.
Speaker 1: And I gotta imagine it was also relatively slow too,
Speaker 1: because like the things just opening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it kind of was like and then it
Speaker 2: just like a party confetti explosion. Oh my god, plat
Speaker 2: of expensive plastic. But I drove it later that night
Speaker 2: to the last night to the Jason Morales show, and
Speaker 2: I got home and oh, we were watching. I'm watching
Speaker 2: this the documentary on Netflix about receivers, and then I'm
Speaker 2: watching the one that Dan suggested I watch about quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: and I'm watching the Mahomes one and Mahomes is talking
Speaker 2: about how quarterbacks have to recover so quickly from making
Speaker 2: mistakes because they got the rest of the game and
Speaker 2: they can't be focused on that. They got to go on.
Speaker 2: And so he was like, I just don't. I don't
Speaker 2: even mistakes. I just let them in and out like
Speaker 2: they just have to pass through. I don't. I can't
Speaker 2: dwell on things, and I just will reach over to
Speaker 2: Chris and I was like, did you forgive yourself for
Speaker 2: the mistake you made today yet? And he was like no,
Speaker 2: And I was like, let's we got you. Gotta let
Speaker 2: this go. You can't get you.
Speaker 1: Remember who said that to us that exact thing was
Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas the second at the Super Bowl. He said
Speaker 1: that I don't. I just don't dwell on that stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't think about mistakes and I just move on.
Speaker 1: That's how that I think that's the mindset is hee quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's a safety. But I just want to remind everybody
Speaker 1: about a movement that you've started that, I think is
Speaker 1: it's I just want to repeat it because it has
Speaker 1: been like, uh, it has created a fundamental change in
Speaker 1: both Alley and I's life, and I think it maybe
Speaker 1: went under the radar. You have this, you have you've
Speaker 1: started a movement where you accept people's apologies and you
Speaker 1: don't force them to apologize more than once. If someone apologizes,
Speaker 1: you accept it. And we've all we've taken that advice
Speaker 1: and we've been applying it to our own lives, and
Speaker 1: it is really it's hard to resist the urge to
Speaker 1: repeat break someone over the poles. Yeah, yes, And it's
Speaker 1: just like if someone brings themselves to apologizing, it's so
Speaker 1: it's it's so nice to just respond to that with
Speaker 1: grace and accept it, and then you have to do
Speaker 1: the work of moving on.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's up to you. Now they've passed the baton
Speaker 2: and it sucks because you didn't answer the baton in
Speaker 2: the first place, and they caused the baton to eve
Speaker 2: and be in play. Yeah, that's I really, it's it's
Speaker 2: the greatest gift you can give yourself. And someone is
Speaker 2: just like if if someone apologizes, like that's what we're
Speaker 2: all looking for. Nothing can really be You can't rewind
Speaker 2: what happened. You can just like I always say, if
Speaker 2: Trump one day woke up and goes, what the fuck
Speaker 2: have I been doing and saying I'm embarrassed at my behavior?
Speaker 2: I really it doesn't mean I don't think he should
Speaker 2: be tried for his crimes and like pay the price
Speaker 2: because it sets an example for society to not do
Speaker 2: those crimes. Yeah, but if he were to wake up
Speaker 2: one day and anyone really and go what was I.
Speaker 1: Think he needs to be a fake. He needs to
Speaker 1: be a real apology. I can understand.
Speaker 2: Disgusted with myself and I want to change and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do better. I'd be like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: actually forgive you. I would literally forget.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, and this doesn't apply to like a boyfriend
Speaker 1: who cheats on you over and over again just goes
Speaker 1: I'm sorry sixteen times.
Speaker 2: This apology really is like horror. You know what this
Speaker 2: is a key compone for me is I'm horrified by
Speaker 2: thinking about how I act. And maybe that's something just
Speaker 2: people say and they don't mean it. But when people
Speaker 2: are like I can't, I don't know, I don't really
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that person anymore. And here's
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do, so I don't do it again.
Speaker 2: Like they show action, you can't be mad, Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 1: We need to come up with a name for this
Speaker 1: movement because I think it's something some good marketing tools
Speaker 1: for shorthand because its kind of hard to describe what
Speaker 1: it is that we're like the forgiven quick forgiveness or something.
Speaker 1: Because it's it's important. I think it's important, and I
Speaker 1: think we should practice it more. And then actually forgiven
Speaker 1: that goes right back fast forgiveness is great. And here
Speaker 1: I am the guy who just said ten minutes ago
Speaker 1: that I have five enemies who I want to destroy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they never apologize.
Speaker 2: They exactly if they're not. If they don't apologize, keep
Speaker 2: those animosities going, let them fuel you. Okay, guys, we
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