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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading The

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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, The One Step Closer to Knowing. Addition,

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Speaker 1: as we take an in depth look at the bengals

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Speaker 1: second preseason game, a fourteen point win over the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: Coming up radio replays, locker room comments, and postgame analysis

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Speaker 1: from Dave Lapham. Then in this week's fun Facts Conversation,

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Speaker 1: you'll get to know a rookie defensive tackle who is

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Speaker 1: into some of the most interesting clips. Now time for

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Speaker 1: the radio replays from Monday night's game in our nation's capital.

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Speaker 1: It is week two of the preseason, and for the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals starters, it is almost certainly their final tune

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Speaker 1: up before the regular season opener coming up.

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Speaker 2: In twenty days. At Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, they take on the Washington Commanders on Monday Night Football,

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Speaker 1: and it is time for the pig skin to fly.

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Speaker 1: Here at Northwest Stadium, Fourth and goal from the one

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Speaker 1: Burrow and the shotgun Chase Brown to his left. Three

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Speaker 1: receivers go out to the wide side right. Burrow waits

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Speaker 1: for the football, he has it, he hands it off

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Speaker 1: to Chase Brown and he fights his way into the

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Speaker 3: Nice job up front, Nice job by Chase.

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Speaker 2: Brown, shotgun snap. Daniels win time.

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Speaker 1: Now forced to scramble runs to the ten to five

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Speaker 1: touchdown peg balling his way through traffic for a fourteen

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Speaker 4: Tell you what he's clever, telling you he's a lot

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Speaker 4: of the more talented quarterbacks in the National Football League

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Speaker 4: now have unbelievable threat with their feet as well as

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Speaker 3: You many ways.

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Speaker 1: Bengals still have their starting defense on the field. Josh

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Speaker 1: Johnson catches a high snap. It's a handoff, a lookout

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Speaker 1: the Bengals run defense could not be any worse.

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Speaker 2: In the first quarter of this game.

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Speaker 3: Ah'm they've given up about one hundred yards of carry.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it really is crazy.

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Speaker 1: First and goal from the five for Cincinnati. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: go empty. Burrow to throw. His passing to the end

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Speaker 1: With nine twenty two left in the half, fourteen all

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Speaker 3: Well, that was an ill advised throw.

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Speaker 1: On first and ten for the thirteen, Browning for the

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Speaker 3: Tinsley ran a good route.

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Speaker 4: Browning made an unbelievable throw, like you said, Dan to

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Speaker 3: Man. A lot of good things happen on that snap.

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Speaker 2: Hartman in the gun. McNichols to his left.

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Speaker 5: Tinsley comes down with a football amazing gout, drowning to

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Speaker 1: On back to back offensive snaps, Jake Browning throws a

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Speaker 3: How about the tap tap? How about the footwork?

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Speaker 4: First, let's talk about Browning making an unbelievable throw. Honey,

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Speaker 2: Now the fifty four yard try.

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Speaker 1: The distance not a problem, and the kick is good,

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Speaker 1: McLaughlin will snap it back to Desmond Ritter. He puts

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Speaker 1: begin to make the march towards the center of the

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Speaker 1: and a fourteen point win tonight over the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: the final score thirty one to seventeen, Bengals ending a

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Speaker 1: streak of seven straight preseason games without a win. Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow wasn't borderline perfect as he was in the preseason opener,

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Speaker 1: but he still led the offense to two touchdowns on

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Speaker 1: After that Burrow's completions. We're going to guys like Charlie

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Speaker 6: But I don't think it's any secret that we've we've

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Speaker 6: That's football. Guys are going to get inged up, Guys

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Speaker 6: That's life in the NFL. And so you need guys

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Speaker 1: The starting offense looks ready for Week one, but the

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Speaker 1: starting defense looks like a week one. The first teamers

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Speaker 1: didn't force a punt for the second game in a row,

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Speaker 1: That's sixteen point nine yards per play, and nearly all

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Speaker 1: of the damage was on the ground, as the defense

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Speaker 1: But Zach Taylor says forget about the preseason. He remains

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Speaker 1: confident that the defense will be better because of what

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Speaker 7: So I feel really excited about where our defense is at.

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Speaker 7: We go and get some every day. It's tough. We'll

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Speaker 7: continue to fix the things we can fix from the

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Speaker 7: But again in praxicansm every single day love war defense

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Speaker 7: is at. There's a lot of things that give the

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Speaker 1: That is Zach being overly positive, sure, but there is

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Speaker 1: some truth to what he's saying. The biggest story of

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Speaker 1: the preseason games. I think it's safe to say that

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see if Zach sends them out

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Speaker 1: there for a series or two. Nobody had a better

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Speaker 1: night on Monday then wide receiver Mitch Tinsley, who spent

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Speaker 1: He finished with five catches for seventy three yards and

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Speaker 1: a pair of unbelievable touchdown grabs. I spoke to Mitch

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Speaker 1: after the game. We're in the locker room with Mitch Tinsley,

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Speaker 1: who put on quite a show on National TV. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the fact that you were one of the

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Speaker 1: coin Toss captains coming back to Washington where you're on

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Speaker 1: the team the last couple of years. What did that

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Speaker 8: Uh, you know, I metting odd that, you know, my coaches,

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Speaker 8: my teammates felt that I was you know, captain worthy

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Speaker 8: and that you know, basically leading the team or starting

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Speaker 8: good to be out there, you know, with Corntall especially.

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Speaker 8: I've been here for the last two seasons or been

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Speaker 8: you definitely mentioned a lot.

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Speaker 1: For sure, Coach Taylor tries to find guys that have

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Speaker 1: Did he let you know before the game or was

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Speaker 1: that kind of a spur of the moment thing where

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Speaker 8: of knew going in, but you know, yeah, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was.

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Speaker 8: It was definitely cool.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about the first touchdown catch. Coverage

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Speaker 1: was great, the throw and the catch were better. Is

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Speaker 1: that one of the better catches you've made in front of.

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Speaker 10: Fans on TV?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I feel like I've made some things happen in practice

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Speaker 1: How about the second one. So Barrett Carter makes the interception,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it really just came down to, you know, me

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Speaker 8: not focusing on I think my whole focus coming into

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Speaker 8: the play I had. So you know, I scored a touchdown,

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Speaker 8: what if I dropped the pass? You know, for me,

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Speaker 8: it's my current play and you know, Jake them goodball

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Speaker 8: and I went up and.

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Speaker 10: Made the play.

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Speaker 8: So it was just about being as you know, present

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Speaker 8: as possible. So that's that's how that happened. In that

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Speaker 1: I came in expecting you to be giddy, but you're

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Speaker 1: very matter of fact, like this is what you've been

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Speaker 1: put on that show.

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Speaker 10: I really, I really don't feel surprised.

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Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, my over my career, you know,

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Speaker 8: I've been the guy that's been overlooked, and you know

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Speaker 8: I feel like for me, like I honestly feel like

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, bitch, thank you, I appreciate it. Tinsley has gone

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Speaker 1: A Bengals scout told me they thought you were the

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Speaker 11: But you know, training camp has been very good. No,

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Speaker 9: We got to just keep stacking days.

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Speaker 1: Congrats time the pick and the win.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a quick turnaround. As the Bengals

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Speaker 1: born Mitch Tinsley two touchdown catches in a twenty second

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Speaker 1: Oddly enough, it might make it hard for the Bengals

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Speaker 12: whether it be by trade, trading for a veteran player

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Speaker 1: Those were great catches and great throws by Jake Browning.

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Speaker 1: Al Golden is emphasizing getting takeaways. Unfortunately, the first team

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Speaker 1: get the sense that a win was meaningful even though

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Speaker 1: it doesn't count the standings?

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Speaker 9: I do. I do.

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Speaker 12: He seemed very happy, almost ecstatic really, And you know,

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Speaker 12: I was having a real good time with the other

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Speaker 12: coaches and the players in the locker room, and he said,

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Speaker 12: you know, it's important to establish an earning habit and

447
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Speaker 12: hadn't gotten that done for a while in the preseason.

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Speaker 12: He'll carry over. That carries over to the regular season.

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Speaker 12: So hopefully if they finished with two wins at the

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Speaker 12: end of the preseason, will carry over to a fast start,

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Speaker 12: because obviously that's something that's plagued them the last couple

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Speaker 12: of years.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow wanted to play in the preseason. We assume

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Speaker 1: he's not going to play against the Colts, but he

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Speaker 1: was in there for five or four series, three touchdown drives.

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Speaker 1: Very successful preseason for Joe and for the first team offense.

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Speaker 12: I agree, you know, I think when they decided that

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Speaker 12: what they were going to do and how much they

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Speaker 12: were going to play Joe and what they were going

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Speaker 12: to do with them, I think if they could seeing

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Speaker 12: in their crystal ball what it were going to turn

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Speaker 12: out to be, I think they would be more than happy.

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Speaker 12: Was Hissy be very very pleased. So you know, I

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Speaker 12: think I think it turned out exactly the way they

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Speaker 12: wanted it to. And I think my map was off.

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Speaker 12: Five drives, four touchdowns while Joe, as I am right,

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Speaker 12: that's producing at a high level. That's a high percentage

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Speaker 12: the conversion.

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Speaker 1: For sure. That puts a rap on the Washington game. Now,

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Speaker 1: time for this tweek's fun fact segment. Prior to the draft,

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of speculation that the Bengals would

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Speaker 1: take a defensive player from Notre Dame that had been

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Speaker 1: coached by Al Golden, and they were surely interested in

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Speaker 1: cornerback Benjamin Morrison, who went in the second round, and

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Speaker 1: safety Xavier Watts, who went in the third. As it

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Speaker 1: turned out, the Bengals didn't draft a Notre Dame defender,

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Speaker 1: but they did sign one as a college free agent,

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Howard Cross, who was a second team All

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Speaker 1: American each of the last two years for the Fighting Irish.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to know the person under the pads.

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Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with rookie defensive tackle Howard

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Speaker 1: Cross from Paramus, New Jersey, about twenty minutes from MetLife Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the home of the New York Giants, the team your

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Speaker 1: dad played for for thirteen years. He's also Howard played

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Speaker 1: in more than two hundred NFL games. What was it

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Speaker 1: like for you to grow up Howard Cross in New Jersey?

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Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 3: Was I was.

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Speaker 13: I was living every kid's dream, you know. I'm like

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Speaker 13: anytime or anywhere in like elementary school, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 13: my dad played for the Giants, and I know all

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Speaker 13: the like I knew Tiki Barber and and I'mnti Tumor

493
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Speaker 13: and I knew all these guys and like I would

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Speaker 13: like go tell my friends. I'm like, yeah, I'm I

495
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Speaker 13: know Ticky Barber and you know, uh and like, you know,

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Speaker 13: just being stopped at any point like oh, like how

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Speaker 13: are Cross and the like, yeah, these are my kids,

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Speaker 13: Like all right, cool Howard Cross.

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Speaker 10: But you know, it was it was it was good.

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Speaker 13: You know, it was a it was It was a

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Speaker 13: cool experience being around football most of my life, just

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Speaker 13: just learning uh, the ins and out and it helped

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Speaker 13: me kind of be where I am today. Like I

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Speaker 13: knew the ins and outs of like the NFL and

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Speaker 13: how it worked, like back before I even assumed that

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Speaker 13: I could even make it to this level, Like like

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Speaker 13: I used to watch Hard Knocks with my dad when

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Speaker 13: I was like, I don't know, in middle school, I

509
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Speaker 13: was really interested in the NFL. But he was like,

510
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Speaker 13: this is how it works, is this is what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 13: These are this is the process.

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Speaker 10: And I'm like Oh that's that's.

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Speaker 13: Kind of nerve racking and out I'm laughing about it.

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Speaker 13: Now I'm like fifteen years later, I'm here and it's

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Speaker 13: it's just funny to me.

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Speaker 1: So he's part of the Giants radio broadcast crew. Now,

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Speaker 1: did he bring you around to the stadium quite a

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Speaker 1: bit when you were young?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, I was.

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Speaker 13: I was in there when he's when he's recorded multiple times.

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Speaker 13: I know all the reporters back at the Combi, when

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Speaker 13: the Giants reporters were at the Common.

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Speaker 10: They're like, oh my god, our So it was good

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Speaker 10: to it was good to see all them. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: I was around. I was able to see all these

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Speaker 10: guys who like and again I remember I look at them.

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Speaker 13: They were larger than life, like punintended like they were

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Speaker 13: giants Like I literally, I really thought they were large,

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Speaker 13: larger than life humans. And I can't even imagine, you know,

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Speaker 13: being anywhere near these people.

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Speaker 10: And now then I'm in this position, this is it's

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Speaker 10: crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: We're visiting the Bengals. Ricky Howard Cross, I've read that

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Speaker 1: your folks encouraged you to try every sport growing up.

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Speaker 1: What did you participate in?

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Speaker 13: Uh, honestly, a little bit of everything. Uh my dad,

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Speaker 13: I remember. So he said, you could do whatever you

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Speaker 13: want as long as it doesn't include so no boxing,

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Speaker 13: no UFC, taekwondo, no no hand to hand comment every anything.

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Speaker 10: Also, you want to be world champion of dance.

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Speaker 13: Go ahead, just as long as it's not hand to

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Speaker 13: hand combat, you could do whatever you want. So growing

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Speaker 13: up I played. My dad got me into golf. Okay, golfer.

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Speaker 13: If I have golf more than twice a year, I

546
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Speaker 13: played lacrosse.

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Speaker 10: Growing up.

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Speaker 13: I was a really really good baseball player, terrible terrible

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Speaker 13: at basketball, but I was a really really, really surprisingly

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Speaker 13: good tennis player.

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Speaker 10: And I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 13: I always tell my friends, or I always tell my

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Speaker 13: friends that if I had never or if I chose

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Speaker 13: to play football, I might have actually been.

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Speaker 10: Really good at It's funny enough.

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Speaker 13: I was really good at baseball too, But again, it

557
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Speaker 13: was kind of in high school when I was in

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Speaker 13: the middle of baseball and Lacrosseuse lacrosse was big in

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Speaker 13: high school, and they were like, yeah, like I got

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Speaker 13: my first offer, and I was like, all right, I

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Speaker 13: guess it's football.

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Speaker 1: So your dad went to Alabama and it's in the

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Speaker 1: Alabama Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 9: You chose Notre Dame?

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Speaker 1: Why South End.

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Speaker 13: A Yeah, I grew up with a dad who knew

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Speaker 13: the ins and outs of football, and after after football

568
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Speaker 13: night wasn't leave for thirteen years, and the biggest thing

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Speaker 13: for him was football is great.

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Speaker 10: Football is awesome. But he always used to say, the

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Speaker 10: NFL stands for not for long.

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Speaker 13: You know, there's a very like you could probably count,

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Speaker 13: I want to say, on not really one hand, but

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Speaker 13: I want to say, it's like maybe less than twenty

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Speaker 13: people who are able to play in the past like

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Speaker 13: fifteen years, that haven't been playing more than ten, ten,

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Speaker 13: twelve years, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: So I mean what the maverage NFL lifespans what three years?

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Speaker 13: So after that he got a good job, so he

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Speaker 13: you know, he always talked about getting a good job.

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Speaker 13: Justin Tuck, who was a world class dam for the Giants,

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Speaker 13: is the VP of Golden Sacks.

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Speaker 10: Right now with Notre Dame.

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Speaker 13: So obviously they were very big on obviously, yes, football school,

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Speaker 13: but like academics.

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Speaker 10: So I was looking at.

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Speaker 13: Duke Northwestern Stanford and then obviously a Nore Dame called

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Speaker 13: that was like the pinnacle of education. But obviously football,

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Speaker 13: So I jumped to the opportunity to go there.

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Speaker 1: You played in sixty six games there, that's second most

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Speaker 1: all time at Notre Dame. And your defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the last three years was Al Golden, So you know

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Speaker 1: him better than any other player in this locker room.

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Speaker 1: What do you admire and respect about Al?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I admire that he wants the best out

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Speaker 13: of us. He wants the best to have the defense.

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Speaker 13: You know, you can't be perfect, but you can be

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Speaker 13: damn near close. So that's kind of philosophy that he

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Speaker 13: goes by. And honestly, like, I don't really know anybody

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Speaker 13: that wouldn't like die on the field for him.

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Speaker 10: He's a very big, no I.

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Speaker 13: Want to say, father figure, Like he makes sure everybody's okay,

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Speaker 13: make sure he checks on everybody every once in a while,

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Speaker 13: and he passed them all the way. So I was like,

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Speaker 13: oh you doing just always wondering, like what's what's going

606
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Speaker 13: on outside of football? Like how's everything going? But again,

607
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Speaker 13: he just he cares about you as a person. He

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Speaker 13: definitely cares about you's a football player.

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Speaker 1: My broadcast partner Dave Lapham played for the Bengals in

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Speaker 1: their first Super Bowl, and he describes when he ran

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Speaker 1: out of the tunnel, he felt like he could lift

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Speaker 1: the stadium. You played in the National Championship Game last

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Speaker 1: year for Notre Dame. What was that feeling like for

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Speaker 1: you to take the field.

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Speaker 10: It was kind of surreal.

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Speaker 13: I'm not gonna lie to you, Like I remember like

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Speaker 13: walking out with the captains and I just laughed. I'm like,

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Speaker 13: this is I this is just crazy, you know, and

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Speaker 13: my entire life, like watching the National Championship game the.

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Speaker 10: Little what is it, the black and silver.

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Speaker 13: Year number, so twenty twenty four twenty I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 13: that's so cool, Like just imagine that on my jersey,

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Speaker 13: and now I have a twenty twenty five jersey, which

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Speaker 13: looks sick by the way, but just but it was

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Speaker 13: just that whole thing. I remember just looking in the

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Speaker 13: mirror and just looking at the symbol like before the

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Speaker 13: game and just being like wow, And just the whole

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Speaker 13: process was crazy.

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Speaker 10: I mean, like the.

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Speaker 13: I can't even describe it like it was. I can't

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Speaker 13: think of a better way to go out of college.

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Speaker 10: I can't. I can't. Like the first what is a

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Speaker 10: twelve man playoff?

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Speaker 13: The first ever playoff game at Notre Dame, which is

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Speaker 13: my last ever game in Notre Dame. But it was

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Speaker 13: a night game, and by far in six years, it

637
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Speaker 13: was my craziest Notre Dame game playing in New Orleans,

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Speaker 13: being Georgia like it was.

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Speaker 1: It was just I saw an old story in the

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Speaker 1: South Bend newspaper that referred to you as fast hands Howard.

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Speaker 1: What was the origin of that nickname?

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Speaker 10: Coach Golden?

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Speaker 13: Actually Coach Golden first came to Notre Dame all those

644
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Speaker 13: years ago, and again, I was just the little guy

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Speaker 13: on the field. And I mean that's everys first reaction

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Speaker 13: when they've seen the Notre Dame film, like exact guy.

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Speaker 10: Uh, but you know I was.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 13: I'm known for, you know, using my hands quickly and

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Speaker 13: get me fun of a little bit for how large

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Speaker 13: my hand's on which is disproportional in my lot eight,

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Speaker 13: but just being able to use my hands and that

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Speaker 13: that's kind of what that's kind of what he'd even say.

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Speaker 1: You were a second team All American each of the

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Speaker 1: last two years at Notre Dame, but you weren't selected

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Speaker 1: this year's NFL draft. The Bengals signed you quickly as

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Speaker 1: a free agent. Were you ticked off and what did

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Speaker 1: NFL teams miss?

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Speaker 10: Obviously, you know I was a little I was a

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Speaker 10: little frustrated. Anybody would be. I was. You know, I

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Speaker 10: was projected to be drafted pretty high. I was drafted.

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Speaker 10: That's how, that's how it goes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: And you know they don't really think they missed anything.

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Speaker 10: You know, I'm not gonna lie. I came.

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Speaker 13: I came back for another year, hoping to raise my

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Speaker 13: draft sock harder than I already was.

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Speaker 10: And but I got hurt.

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Speaker 13: It's just so happened that the most ever d tackles

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Speaker 13: to ever be draftable in the modern era was this

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Speaker 13: past year.

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Speaker 10: Like just everything, you know, just it. It was just

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Speaker 10: a bad bad role, bad hands.

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Speaker 13: You know every time, every once in a while, your

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Speaker 13: delt a bad hand life, and you know you just

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Speaker 13: gotta make them most of it. So you know, yeah,

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Speaker 13: it's I remember like not receiving a phone call and

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Speaker 13: be like, you know what, I knew I was gonna

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Speaker 13: get an opportunity, and I have an opportunity now and

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Speaker 13: I'm using it.

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Speaker 1: So it's not how you get here, it's what you

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Speaker 1: do once you're here. A few wild card topics. Now,

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Speaker 1: for Howard Cross, you are Howard Cross the third. If

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Speaker 1: you have a son at some point, will he be

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Speaker 1: Howard the fourth?

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Speaker 13: I would believe, so, I'm sure I'll twenty am I

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Speaker 13: twenty three right now?

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Speaker 10: Twenty four?

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Speaker 13: I probably h Yeah, I got a couple of years

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Speaker 13: before I think about that.

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Speaker 10: Got a couple of years for that one. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: probably I would, I would assume. So yeah, I think.

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Speaker 1: So you have a twin sister, Bella. Do you have

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Speaker 1: similar likes and dislikes?

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Speaker 10: We're basically the same person. I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 10: If she would hate that, I would say that.

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Speaker 13: If you're listening to this, well I'm sorry, but yeah,

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Speaker 13: we're basically the same person. We like the same things,

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Speaker 13: like I mean again, we grew up like we were

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Speaker 13: in the same front group growing up, like you know,

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Speaker 13: like I'm a nerd, like I read com books and

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Speaker 13: superheroes name all that stuff, and she does the exact

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Speaker 13: same thing.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, we're basically the same person.

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Speaker 1: I have a notre dame hot take for you. Here goes.

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Speaker 1: Rudy is a terrible movie. He is an annoying whiner.

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Speaker 1: Did I just defend you? Have you seen Rudy.

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Speaker 10: I don't know. If I shouldn't answer this question.

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Speaker 9: Feel free to agree.

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Speaker 13: I don't. I'm not a fan of the movie, and

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Speaker 13: I do know the true story of Rudy.

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Speaker 10: That is all I will say about that. I'm not

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Speaker 10: a fan of the movie.

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Speaker 13: You know, I'm sure he was a nice guy and

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Speaker 13: never really never had the opportunity to meet him.

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Speaker 10: But I know the truth.

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Speaker 13: I've heard from other players and coaches who have been

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Speaker 13: a part of the team that I know the true

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Speaker 13: story of Rudy, and that that is you know.

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Speaker 10: That's all say.

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Speaker 1: The movie is very embellished. We'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: Aside from football, do you have any talents cooking?

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Speaker 13: Cooking is definitely my my biggest thing. Like, I love cooking.

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Speaker 13: I always kind of say, this is a real fun fact.

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Speaker 13: I really think about that if I didn't play football,

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Speaker 13: and like I I had enough money in the world

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Speaker 13: where I could choose any job I want to be,

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Speaker 13: I'll be like a five star culinary chef from like

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Speaker 13: a crazy Michelin star restaurant.

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Speaker 10: I just I just think it's really cool, you know.

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Speaker 13: I like I like I like cooking. I like the

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Speaker 13: way it smells. I like I like doing stuff in

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Speaker 13: my hands. I like kind of creating art that way.

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Speaker 13: And I don't know, I just I think that stuff

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Speaker 13: is amazing, you know. So yeah, if I never played

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Speaker 13: football and I was able to have any job in world,

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Speaker 13: that I would definitely be a culinary chef.

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Speaker 1: All right, gourmet chef. Howard crossed the third final question.

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Speaker 1: This one's a little bit deep. If you could meet

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Speaker 1: anybody in history, living or deceased, who would that person be?

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Speaker 13: Uh So, I have a family member and ever and

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Speaker 13: I have a genuine answer.

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Speaker 10: The genuine answer would be Ali and.

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Speaker 13: Just I don't know, just watching interviews and just like

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Speaker 13: I just I just want to be able to meet

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Speaker 13: somebody like that.

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Speaker 10: And just like because I.

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Speaker 13: You know, my entire life, I overthink a lot of things,

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Speaker 13: you know, but just like somebody who radiates like confidence constantly,

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Speaker 13: like no matter who he's talking to face with, literally

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Speaker 13: like being public at one point being public Enemy number

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Speaker 13: one of the country and really getting on live TV

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Speaker 13: and doing what he does best. Uh, and it was

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Speaker 13: it's just it's just all like anytime like I listen

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Speaker 13: to anything he says, I just think it's amazing. And

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Speaker 13: then like family wise, so had probably been a great

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Speaker 13: greatgrandfather Archie Cross. So it's that family member where like

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Speaker 13: you don't like there's not a lot of pictures.

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Speaker 10: You don't know, but it's just legends. Like apparently he

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Speaker 10: was like back in.

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Speaker 13: My great great grandfather said that I was back in

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Speaker 13: Alabama a long time ago, but like he was the

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Speaker 13: I think the strongest wrestler in the state or something

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Speaker 13: like that. He like was legend has it he was

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Speaker 13: wrestling bears and he was like throwing hay Bill. He's

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Speaker 13: able to like take on and be three people and

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Speaker 13: once in wrestling.

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Speaker 10: Like I just hear.

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Speaker 13: Legends about this guy, and I think that would be

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Speaker 13: the coolest thing I were to be able to meet him.

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Speaker 1: This has been great. Really appreciate your time. You're having

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Speaker 1: an excellent camp.

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Speaker 9: Keep it up.

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Speaker 10: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

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