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Speaker 1: been lying on this show since it came out. The

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Speaker 1: acting acting. Yeah, it was amazing performances all around. I

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Speaker 2: This is what they always award, And I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, that's so sad that we already have the shit

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Speaker 2: We have five comments, y'all had something to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I catch it straight. Karen

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Speaker 1: How about none of the fucking time? Ev? That does

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Speaker 1: Well Karen likes.

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Speaker 1: so they're never cools long as you support lies like

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Speaker 1: Even he doesn't support Arby, she supports lies. That's clear

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Speaker 1: what this is about. It can't be about artist. You

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Speaker 2: I thought you.

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Speaker 1: here supporting the lives because you know that it's a

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Speaker 1: imposter syndrome, which is already too prevalent among black, working

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00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: black people working in white spaces. That's a good point, Yeah,

440
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: because then if you get hired or whatever in the

441
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: racial reckoning, it's just gonna feel that resentment of they

442
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,920
Speaker 1: did this because a black man got killed, not because

443
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Speaker 1: you're qualified, although I guess they probably feel that way.

444
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: No matter what, I mean, always take the money in

445
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 1: the position. But you know what I'm saying. My last point,

446
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: corporate American promoting black people ain't gonna do shit of

447
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 1: George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Trayvon Martin.

448
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Speaker 2: What y'all.

449
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Speaker 1: By y'all, I mean old white men and women need

450
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Speaker 1: to stop doing this donating and supporting these biggest and

451
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: combating racism on an individual.

452
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Speaker 2: And personal basis.

453
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Speaker 1: Because real talk, If every major donor of the Republican

454
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Speaker 1: Party said we will not be making any further political

455
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: donations unless critical race theories mandated to be taking every

456
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: public school trust, it's gonna happen. Money talks, hashtag I'm done, Rain,

457
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Speaker 1: I feel you. Joe says, great episode, Zach was really good.

458
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: He either really listens to the show or really studied

459
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: up before the episode.

460
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: Either way, the brother came prepared.

461
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: I also respected the way he made sure they address

462
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: Both Rod and Karen One responded to or provided information

463
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Speaker 1: that could be a problem with being interviewed by multiple people.

464
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 1: The people being interviewed speak mainly to one person, leaving

465
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Speaker 1: the others out. Well, that's also because whenever we do

466
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 1: the interviews normally, I'm the one to ask all the questions.

467
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Speaker 1: Not that I always tell Karen before, like you asked

468
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Speaker 1: really questions, you know, be aggressive. But I think over

469
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Speaker 1: the years of just seeing that that's not Karen style.

470
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: So it's just, you know, I just embraced it and

471
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Speaker 1: go fuck it. I'll be doing most of the interviewing

472
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Speaker 1: and Karen.

473
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Speaker 2: L tim in what she feels like it.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it don't bother me. But I can understand,

475
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 3: like for a listening audience, like being like, hey, acknowledge

476
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Speaker 3: them both. But yeah, like I said, I've never taken

477
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Speaker 3: that personally, you know, but I could see somebody going with, hey,

478
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm a part of the show too.

479
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Speaker 1: Well, what the reason that happening is because I'm asking

480
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Speaker 1: most of the questions, you know what I mean. I

481
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Speaker 1: think if it was I think if if like you

482
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: were asking most of the questions and they still responded

483
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: like well, Rod, then I think it would be like,

484
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: oh damn, why are they doing that. But since you know,

485
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Speaker 1: and normally when you ask a question, people do make

486
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: sure to address you and whatnot. But you know, but nah,

487
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it too, and he does this to the

488
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Speaker 1: show a lot. I can relate to the stories as

489
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Speaker 1: Zach told about his experiences with corporate resources after George

490
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Speaker 1: Floyd was killed. My job went on quite the proactive

491
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Speaker 1: campaign to ensure that everyone knew where they stood on

492
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Speaker 1: these matters.

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Speaker 2: What if a company doing on the proactive campaign to.

494
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Speaker 1: Make sure you knew it they stood, but they were

495
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Speaker 1: stood against George Floyd. Yeah, we just want to have

496
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Speaker 1: a special record talk about the racial reconing.

497
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Speaker 2: We want everyone to come together.

498
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Speaker 1: We're going to have a conference and we just want

499
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Speaker 1: to let your niggas know black lives don't matter. I

500
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: need y'all need to chill out with all this bullshit

501
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 1: and get back to work, all right now. Thanks. I

502
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: remember one session where people of color and the highest

503
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Speaker 1: positions were including on the panel discussing the idea of

504
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Speaker 1: bringing your full self to work. I don't believe that

505
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: the people of color were quite with this program, though

506
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: one panelist spoke a lot on having spent the last

507
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Speaker 1: thirty years doing everything, but bringing his full self to work.

508
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: I doubt he knew what his full self even was.

509
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: At that point, the white people on the panel going

510
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Speaker 1: on about how open things were. Meanwhile, the pocs all

511
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 1: had the posture of, yeah, okay, when this shit calms

512
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: down in about three months, we'll see what that bring

513
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Speaker 1: my full self gets me.

514
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Speaker 3: Yeah, most black and brown people in corporate America don't

515
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: bring them full self to work because you don't want

516
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: the fool of me like and I remember Roger said

517
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Speaker 3: this years ago, and I will and I have held

518
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Speaker 3: just the heart. They pay you not to do shit, right,

519
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: you know, yes, they pay you to perform a task,

520
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: but they also pay you not to do shit either.

521
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 3: They pay you not to cut your coworkers out. They

522
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: pay you, you know, not to have an attitude. They

523
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 3: pay you sometimes to take shit from people. You know,

524
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Speaker 3: that's what they're paying you to do too. In addition,

525
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: you perform the y'all performed the task and all that done.

526
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Speaker 3: That's in my opinion, because you really don't want to

527
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: know my fucking opinion, so you're paying me not to

528
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 3: give my opinion on things, no matter how bad you

529
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Speaker 3: act for it. I just blink my eyes and stabbed crazy.

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Speaker 1: Most people just think of it in a good way,

531
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Speaker 1: and that's why they're like, I want to be my

532
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Speaker 1: full self at work.

533
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Speaker 2: But I'm like, I think of it the opposite. I

534
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: think of what can go.

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Speaker 1: Wrong, and I'm like, I don't want to be around

536
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: y'all's full sales. I don't want you fucking trimming your toenails.

537
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't want some of you motherfuckers feel sales is

538
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: very like sexually inappropriate. And I'm not just talking illegal shit,

539
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: but just over the top some of y'all people. Some

540
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: people's sense of humor is not work. It's like not

541
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Speaker 1: good for work. So it just depends on what people

542
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: mean by bringing that full sells. I think everybody at

543
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: work is being a work version of themselves.

544
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Speaker 3: Bring your I'm fine with that.

545
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Speaker 1: Corporate America is white culture for the most part, so

546
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Speaker 1: white people of course feel the most free, right, you

547
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They feel the most like, well, shit,

548
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: I already off, you know what I mean. But in general,

549
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: as a black person, like I don't really need that

550
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: at my job, but you know, fight for your freedom

551
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: to do what you gotta do. But just understand that

552
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: full self shit is a trick bag.

553
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: And just some bullshit you did be walking your ass

554
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: at the door wanting you won't even know why.

555
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm not I'm not saying you're gonna get fired,

556
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: but just some people's full self is not work. That's

557
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: not a work related thing, exactly, agreed. What I would

558
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: like is a fair, equitable work environment, Like I like

559
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: too much of this new fangled corporate talk. Is like

560
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: we're a family, and we're this is a place for this.

561
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: We fight this kind of shit like no, you don't

562
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: don't like get write my check every two weeks, treat

563
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Speaker 1: me fair and and give me my opportunities that you

564
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Speaker 1: would give anybody else. That's it, that's it. You can

565
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: do that. I'll say you a good workplace because most

566
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: places can't even do that shit.

567
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Because and and that's the thing, that's the contract we sign.

568
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: You pay, I show up, you stop paying. That means

569
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Speaker 3: I no longer perform on my task.

570
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: Jamien on jmon Neen says, this man said Easter Raila

571
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: like Gucci man and I fell out. They're in there

572
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: crash my car.

573
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he said he see a link.

574
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Speaker 1: After the show, she like either did a podcast or

575
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: interview or she said that about herself, and so he

576
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: was quoting her. He doesn't He wasn't trying to say

577
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: it to be mean. He was surprised. He was kind

578
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: of caught off that we didn't get the reference. And

579
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Speaker 1: I really just didn't know she had said that before.

580
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hilarious, but you know, I think she looks.

581
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't think she liked Gucci Man, but she was

582
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: joking on the sale, right. Ms Bond says, why the

583
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: Arvey slander? If I send you and Karen some Arby's

584
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: cute pins in the gift card, is that considered sending

585
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: hate mail?

586
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: I think not. I mean, I.

587
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Considered a waste of your money. But if you want

588
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: to do that, that's fine. I mean, you know it

589
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: could happen. At least we know there won't be a

590
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: line if anytime we go. Do you still think Karen

591
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: loves Arby's just the poe? Yes or no?

592
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Yes? Twenty four.

593
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: No, seventy six percent. And this is the platitudes.

594
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: That I don't support. This is that hashtag.

595
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: Believe black women shit when the black woman is Candice Owen,

596
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Like y'all really gonna sit up here and let this

597
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: A lot of y'all like, that's disgusting.

598
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: If I was, like, I'm.

599
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: Losing respect for twenty four percent of y'all. Anne says,

600
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: never believe Karen really liked Rvey's. Thanks for exposing to Liarrod,

601
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ed, we all knew the truth.

602
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Ms.

603
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Bonne says, I voted yes in the poll. I still

604
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: have faith that Karen will love Arvey's at some point,

605
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: keeping the faith. Imagine imagine you supposed to be getting

606
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: Imagine you're supposed to get married to somebody and you say,

607
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: do you love me? And they say, I have faith

608
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: that I will love you. At some point you still

609
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna say I do, and then wonder why half your

610
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: shit gone? Angela says Karen is living her truth.

611
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Nigga, she's literally living a fucking lot. What are y'all

612
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: talking about?

613
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 4: Are y'alla?

614
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: Are y'all okay? What do y'all even hear when you

615
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: listen to this show?

616
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: God damn, we should be griffed.

617
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Twenty fourcusing of y'all. We could easily take all y'all's money.

618
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: We just y'all just believe anything y'all like caring and

619
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: fuck it the pandemic has apparently helped her realign her

620
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: fast food priorities. Too bad about those sunk costs, Rod.

621
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: I am heartened by this revealed though. It shows that

622
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: this is a real love story from Arvey's to Papa John's.

623
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: Rob makes the food sacrifice that puts into work for

624
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: the woman he loves as it should be. Yeah, thank

625
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: god the pop. But John's is terrible around us too.

626
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: Now, Oh, it's only because the fucking bad customer service.

627
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 3: Fuck them.

628
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to them.

629
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all, Alicia said, Rob, Stop stop shaming Karens for

630
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: loving Arby's. I'm not shaming her for loving Larreys. I'm

631
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: shaming her for lying to y'all to see the thing

632
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: you don't understand that she don't love Arby's. See here's

633
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: what you niggas don't get. This woman told me twenty

634
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, twenty maybe twenty one years ago, in September.

635
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: She sat up there and told me in my face

636
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: that she loves me, and now she gonna be here

637
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: till death do us part will So if love in

638
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: this house means anything like the way she loves fucking Arby's,

639
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: then I have been ripped the fuck off and the man.

640
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm the man restitution.

641
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I love you a lot, Okay, So then can y'all

642
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: stop please, because that's not what the fuck love is.

643
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: I know what love means. Karen, If you need me

644
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: to email you an Arvey's gift card or Papa John's

645
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: gift card, blink twice.

646
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: She loves at a mama a too.

647
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Alicia, they showed your money anyway, y'all got I

648
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: guess everybody around here got McDonald's money down. Y'all just

649
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: giving it away, Jo says. Joe says, I mean, does

650
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: anyone really love Arby's? Arby's is the place you go

651
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: to once or twice first time because you're happen across.

652
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: One to think I've seen the commercials.

653
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I should try Arby's the second time because either nothing

654
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: else is around everything else is crowded neither time. Do

655
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: you remember much about the food? The curly fries are good.

656
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: That jamocha shake is alright when they have it. What

657
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: the fuck is horsey sauce? What's that about? That's about

658
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: it in there? It's probably made of horses.

659
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: It's made of the steroids.

660
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: They gave that one that want that race when he

661
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: stuck his muscles, and in any event, stay away from

662
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: dairy Queen. Uh that plays fast food Twilight Zone. I've

663
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: never had the fast food out of day queen.

664
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm ice cream only. You know why I came.

665
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Every time I walk in there, I'll be like, why

666
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: do y'all even make chicken fingers?

667
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 3: The fuck does that?

668
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: Friar?

669
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 3: Why do y'all have chicken nuggets and tato tots?

670
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: The fucking tsk?

671
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Like who got sod down low on their list?

672
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: That they was like, I guess I'll eat the tato

673
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: tops from fucking dery.

674
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 4: And it's reverse.

675
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, sir, do you know this is the dairy Queen?

676
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: Why that four men you on your board?

677
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 3: Ice cream only?

678
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like, get the fuck out of here now now.

679
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: Now watch Eve write in about how much dairy Queen

680
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: is great some buds.

681
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Shit, You're just gonna find out.

682
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Eve got covid and her taste buzz ain't worked in years.

683
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: She was the first person to get it. I've got

684
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: no like. I just know I haven't been able to

685
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: taste food for seventeen years. What do it matter what

686
00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: it tastes like? I like ving Range in commercials. All right,

687
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: we have episode twenty three forty three Bondus and Black

688
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: Air Force ones and says question, I follow you on Twitter?

689
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: Is the blackout tip planning to do a spaces event? No?

690
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: Oh, that's that Twitter thing.

691
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: I think it's like Derek version the Clubhouse.

692
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: Listen, if you've ever heard my thoughts on Clubhouse, you

693
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: know I'm not going on spaces like Clubhouse already sound

694
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: like the worst possible combination of what you could do

695
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: on social media. It don't be saved, so it's now archive.

696
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: If you weren't there, you missed it, and then it's

697
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: hearsay afterwards, and the shit that comes out of those rooms.

698
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't trust anybody that you know, tivin and had

699
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: it said bitch kill yourself. I don't give a fuck.

700
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: I'm like Tiffany has said that. Come on, does anybody

701
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: have a clip?

702
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 3: No?

703
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Is it saved anywhere?

704
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: No? Okay, you know what I'll see if we catch

705
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: her on Twitter or Facebook or someone we can get

706
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: a screenshot, someone has an audio, because y'all niggas love

707
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: to embellish on bullshit. It's like the worst reason, Like

708
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: I can't even know why people that have something to

709
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: lose be on there. I get why the people that

710
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to lose, and the liars, I get

711
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: why the liars be on there. You know.

712
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: And for the record, it was a good.

713
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: It was cool before a lot of people got on there. Yes,

714
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: it was really like when the first couple of weeks

715
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: that I was on there, it was like, you know,

716
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: there was a lot of affirmation stuff, a lot of

717
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: like inside the industry stuff where people were like helping

718
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: each other and stuff.

719
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: Right, you had people like people in like business people

720
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: like actually being on them on there and giving like

721
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: sound advice. Like. It was really cool.

722
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at some point, man, it just lost the plot,

723
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: I think because the it was that thing. Once everybody

724
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: got on there, well, all the people that do foulshit

725
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: on other social medias were on there too. Right now

726
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: you gotta deal with their baggage and shit, and you know,

727
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: have for the people love and want celebrities to be

728
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: on there, but they hate celebrities. They hate the fucking celebrities.

729
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: It's like it makes sense. I don't know why people

730
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: going there. It seems like a it just seemed like

731
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: a waste. But anyway, I don't want to bring that

732
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: to Twitter. I think I'm I'm just gonna use my

733
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Twitter for tweeting. M uh and maybe you know how

734
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: I guess never say never. Maybe if the space and

735
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: ship takes off, or we find some unique way to

736
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: you purpose purpose as of right now, you know, if

737
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you with my voice, guess

738
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: what I'm doing and says one more thing. My brother

739
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: asked for Black Air Force ones low topics of gifts

740
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: because he said that are comfortable for work.

741
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: He's a dentist.

742
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: Should I tell him he is not representing Dennis in

743
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: the positive light? I'm conflicted. I say, you don't tell

744
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: them nothing. Give them the damn Air Force ones.

745
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: What you want that smoke for?

746
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: Come on, I just.

747
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: Feel bad for whoever got to complain about their teeth.

748
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: They're gonna be missing more than just just the teeth

749
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: they asked about. You gotta you're gonna have a problem

750
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: on your hand.

751
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: No, you see your dinners with Air Force one, you

752
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: you better be sure you ain't got no cavities.

753
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't think if I walked my dinners

754
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: always saw.

755
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: Black Air Force ones, I might pretend that that's Oh wait,

756
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: what was this twenty three forty seven metal brook Lane, Oh,

757
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: I think I'm at twenty three forty eight.

758
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.

759
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: Even he says, once again, a mind of my black

760
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: ass business and more Rby slander.

761
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: You can't help you. I don't know, Eve, I don't

762
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: know how to.

763
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: Tell you this. This is my podcast, so I really

764
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. It's never don't be

765
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: put Arby's on this podcast. It's never gonna happen. You

766
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: just can't help yourself, can't you ride? All this restaurant

767
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: ever wanted.

768
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: To do was give people the meats.

769
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: Even that sounds creeper, even that sounds disgusting. Give people

770
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: the meats. That's your.

771
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: Restaurant.

772
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: Understand.

773
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 3: I'm not.

774
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: That we got the meat, but it's just something thirty.

775
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: That's thirty.

776
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: That's how I feel right now. Monique is trying to

777
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: get people beat up. And you type a woman on

778
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: the shoulders wearing a bonding in public. You might get

779
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: smooth cussed out if you're lucky, but you might most

780
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: likely you gonna catch hands.

781
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: That's all I agree with that.

782
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: Eb.

783
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: Finally, you're talking sense.

784
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how that wasn't just the number one thing,

785
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: regardless of what Monique had to say. And I'm not

786
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: saying she's some hateful person, nothing, but just Monique, you

787
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: can't have people out here tapping people on the shoulder

788
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: in the airport.

789
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: That's wearing a bonding The ass woman is not worth it.

790
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Even if they consider what you say and it does

791
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: change their life, it'll be after you done.

792
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: Took an ass woman.

793
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: How is that worth? That's like, brother, don't wear black

794
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: air Force one out here.

795
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: Okay, you're not representing yourself. Get you some better shoes.

796
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: Oh oh, got them? Old shit? Like that's what it's

797
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 1: gonna sound like. Joe's face says what I have done

798
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: back when I was young a youngster was walk outside

799
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: my house with a do rag on the kind with

800
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the flap in the back of the tie round, which.

801
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: I never really knew how to use.

802
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Uh something had had a hat, sometimes I had a

803
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: hat on and sometimes not. I don't even think it

804
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: had an extra impact on waves. I'm not even sure

805
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: it was the right type for this, since it didn't

806
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: fit tight enough for that. Just a foolish move for

807
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: which I'm glad they are no pictures. Yeah, I guess

808
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: that maybe the do rag is the black man equivalent

809
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: of the bonnet. When it comes to that, like the

810
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: hair gear, they.

811
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 4: Take them do rags like ridly, really seriously.

812
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: They even have like a do rag conference, like they

813
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: that that ship is lich.

814
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I guess somebody could, you know, make a

815
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: point of doing that. I know Jay Z had a

816
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: lyric a long time ago about how he, even as

817
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: a rich black man, he was wearing this do rag. Jiggerman,

818
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: you rich take that do rag off. So I don't know, man,

819
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think ultimately it's just landed where it is,

820
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: which is I think Monique doubled down. But ultimately it's

821
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 1: a respectability politics thing. Monique is saying it genuinely out

822
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: of love because she's of a certain age and she's

823
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: accepted those politics as part of life, and she thinks

824
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: that that represents, you know, something more than what the

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: people who are wearing the bonus think.

826
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe some.

827
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: People were edified by I'm sure there were some black

828
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: women that are like, Okay, you know what, I am

829
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: gonna not wear my bondy in public, and I'm gonna

830
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: dress up when I go to airport. But for most

831
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: people like, and I don't mean it's in a pejorita way,

832
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: but for most people it don't matter. Just nobody was

833
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: sitting around waiting for Monique to come tell them how

834
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: to act at the airport period, you know what I'm

835
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: saying so much like you know, motherfucker's talking about they

836
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: pass up and shit, I don't who cares, you know,

837
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: And and for to her credit, I'll give it to her,

838
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: like I've heard that message delivered with a lot more

839
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: vitriol than love. And I think she made sure to

840
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: set a tone of even if y'all in my comments

841
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: talking about you're gonna knock me the fuck out, I'm

842
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say I still love y'all.

843
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: And you know, I really do think.

844
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: This would be worthwhile and this will help and you

845
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: with your own And I mean, the studies have shown

846
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: that when people dress up and all this type of shit,

847
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: they do feel better about themselves. So I don't think

848
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: she's one thousand percent off, But just you know, most

849
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: people just don't care. They're not they don't care, you know,

850
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: Like I don't think it's something they didn't consider.

851
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: I just think they don't really care.

852
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: Right if I woke up and I decide to put

853
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: a bonnet on. That's my right and that's my choice.

854
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: And I don't really care how you feel. And I

855
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: think for me, I do understand for her, the way

856
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: she feels is coming from a place of love. But

857
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: for somebody like me who was brought up where you

858
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: know your everything about you is kind of nickpicked and

859
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: torn apart, it just bristles up because it brings something

860
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: up in me. But I would go, who gives a fuck,

861
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: I don't care about your opinion about what the fuck

862
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: I have on?

863
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: If I feel comfortable in it. Why the fuck are

864
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 4: you impacted?

865
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Why?

866
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 4: Why do is what I have? I'm not going to

867
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 4: a goddamn job interview.

868
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not at work.

869
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: The fuck are you talking about?

870
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if we want to keep it like,

871
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: if we want to go into the deep psychological point

872
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: of it, it is that right that black women's bodies

873
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: are judged so much, and that you know, there's like that.

874
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: It's condescending the actors that black women are.

875
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: Not aware of how they look in the pajamas, in

876
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: the bondess. They chose to wear this for a reason.

877
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Almost everybody else in the airport is dressed like that,

878
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: or a lot of times people are dressed like that,

879
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and you know they I shouldn't have to not dress

880
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: like that because I'm black, you know, and if I'm comfortable,

881
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: if that's what makes me comfortable, that's just what I

882
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: choose to do. So you know, we've but we've seen

883
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: this and we've talked about so many years in the show.

884
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: It was yoga pants at one point, It's pulling your

885
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: pants up because they sagging. It's skinny jeans, it's all

886
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: this shit, which is just like, oh, black person is

887
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: wearing something. Let me tell you how this is a problem.

888
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't really give a fuck.

889
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: You know.

890
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: She needn't frame it in a way of like and

891
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: then the police gonna kill you or whatever. The thing

892
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: what I've always thought about the bondets and the pajama

893
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: pants and stuff like that that I thought was funny

894
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: is that people will go they won't approach you because

895
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: they won't see you as a queen and all this

896
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: ship and I'm like, when women dress bummy. That seemed

897
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: to be the time that dudes really had the most confidence.

898
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,479
Speaker 1: It's like Oh, you just slid to the show store

899
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: in your bonnet. Girl, you're looking thicker than a motherfucking

900
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: burnt bag of oatmeal.

901
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: Whatever the fuck, it's just like here I got I

902
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 2: gotta deal with this.

903
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: I should have just I should have just just dressed

904
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: up like Monique said.

905
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: Right, because I wouldn't have to deal with you.

906
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Think you got a chance, so this nigga would know

907
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: he all bum and I'm not fucking with him. But

908
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: because I tried to slide out to the motherfucker grocery

909
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: store on my exercise clothes, I got to deal with

910
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: this motherfucker that you want to be my seventeenth baby

911
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: mama girl, because you looking like I want to sop

912
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: you up, you know, whatever the fuck is like, why

913
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: did I do? What did I do?

914
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: I should have just put on my Fanta.

915
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Fuck, that's that that should happen.

916
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: You should you should They should do something where a

917
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: woman does that, like a schedule something And then when

918
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: the dude tried to holler at her and shit and

919
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: she's regretting it, they just slide over the Monique who's like,

920
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: see my babies, this is what I'm trying to keep

921
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: away from you I'm trying to trying to protect you.

922
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to save y'all, and y'all turn me away. Now,

923
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: look at this Roscoe over here thinks he's got a chance. Yes,

924
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: as Roscoe, I don't know what he got more teeth

925
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: missing the kids? Which one?

926
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 3: Why?

927
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: But you thought this was a good idea because you

928
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: just had to go to the airport.

929
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: You had to wear the open toe slippers, didn't you.

930
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start doing PSAs on my Instagram about things

931
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: I don't like about black people's That's what I'm gonna

932
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: use it for. But I'm gonna say it with love,

933
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: of course the pole. Did you wear you wear your

934
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: bonnet at the airport? Yes?

935
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: No?

936
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: Or I never wear a bonnet.

937
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: I have never won one to the airport, but I

938
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: do wear bonnets. Yes, yes, yes you are no no

939
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: no no no, you don't ever worry about it to

940
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 3: the airport?

941
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: Yes.

942
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Six percent.

943
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Which is another reason this is funny is because I

944
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: don't mean to be a dick, but like, this is

945
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: not that common of behavior. The bondic thing. I think

946
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: what people are thinking is it's such a small group

947
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: of women who are doing it that we can all

948
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: jone on them together, and of course it always gives

949
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: a lot of the dudes that participate in the gender warshit, it.

950
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: Gives them an opportunity to dunk on black women. You know,

951
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: they love that.

952
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: And then the discussion becomes about that that like, like,

953
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't want.

954
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: To give an edge to these niggas.

955
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like most

956
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: of the people that was arguing the shit don't even

957
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: do it. Like it's like, I'm just arguing for the

958
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: freedom of why shouldn't.

959
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: They be able to do it?

960
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: But when I go to the airport, no, I'm not

961
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: dressed in pajamas, But but if motherfucker.

962
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: Want to, I don't care.

963
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: Right they should have the right to anyway.

964
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's six say no.

965
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: And then fifty three percent say I never wear a

966
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: bonnet and I didn't ask people to clarify what gender

967
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: they were and all that stuff the comments Kim Doc says,

968
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I never had, but I have gone to the airport

969
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: without taking my flat twist done, without taking my flat

970
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: twist done so that when I arrived to the destination, I.

971
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Could get ready in the hotel.

972
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: Black women's hair, especially natural hair, doesn't just bounce back

973
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 1: without an hour more effort than products. We've been policing

974
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: black hair and presentations inince the beginning of time. She

975
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: also was doing it in a bath throaw, So, which

976
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: one is it? Y'all saw that too. I just don't,

977
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: I swear. I just don't be knowing what's going through

978
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: people's head man. Like I said, I don't, I don't like.

979
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 1: And then, like in her follow up videos, she talks

980
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: about how Patti LaBelle Porter tugger her coat. The teller like, hey,

981
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: you need to go out and get yourself together, and

982
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: we got to show we were about to do, so

983
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: you need to get it together for the audience. Go

984
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: and she's like, I could have took that badly, but

985
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: I received it with love because that's how she intended it, Okay,

986
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: And then she brings up another woman I forget her name,

987
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: that told her about she need to lose weight, and

988
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: she's like, and I received that with love, and you know,

989
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: so it's coming from a place of love, and that's

990
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: how I took it. And that's what I'm trying to

991
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: say to y'all about these bondesses. Y'all need to take

992
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: this from a place of love, blah blah. And I

993
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: was thinking, like, one, those women know you, they have

994
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: a relationship with you. They didn't just walk into a

995
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: room full of strangers and tell them to lose weight

996
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: or get theirselves together. That So that's the big ass difference.

997
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: But then two, I'm sure the motherfucker would be like, well,

998
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey last two years ago, tried to plug your

999
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: coat and help you get more work in Hollywood, and

1000
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: you didn't receive that shit in a positive you like

1001
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: fuck that. You know, Oprah and Lee Dames and Tyler

1002
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: Perry could have said, hey, we was trying to help

1003
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: you out, you know, whether you believe it or not.

1004
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: But they could be using that same like this was

1005
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: all to help your life be better, and you look

1006
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: what you did to us, Like at some point, man,

1007
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: just people don't want that unsolicited advice quote unquote, right.

1008
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: But like I said, I don't think my Nique's a

1009
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: bad person, just people don't, Like I said, people ain't

1010
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: trying to hear that shit. Shay says, I would wear

1011
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: a bond it to the airport, I wear a bond

1012
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: it to the court. I would wear a bond it

1013
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: to the bus. I wear a bond it. While I

1014
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: cuss I would wear a bond it on a flight,

1015
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I will wear a bond it because you can't fight.

1016
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: You cannot whoop me, sam, I am. You cannot whoop

1017
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: me here nor there. You cannot whoop me, So don't

1018
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: worry about my hair. Come on, I mean, yeah, Ms

1019
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Barr says, I wear one at work as I work out.

1020
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: I wear one as I work out, and I've worn

1021
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: one to the gym out or but out walking, but

1022
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: anywhere else. Nah. Yeah, Like I said, I'm not even

1023
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: sure this is the major problem that I think. It's

1024
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: just a Twitter thing. Someone took a picture and it

1025
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: went viral, and.

1026
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: I don't even like most people, it was not on

1027
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 3: the fucking radar. Most people do not care.

1028
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1029
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Plus a lot of people full of shit because they

1030
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: do be judging people wearing bonnets.

1031
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.

1032
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: So I don't even know what to say.

1033
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Just keep me out of it. It ain't my hair,

1034
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: it's black women's business. We had episode twenty three forty

1035
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: four Bondet on the Block. Eve Eve replied, I find

1036
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: the news surrounding Naomi Osaka interesting because when she started winning,

1037
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: she was set up in the media as an anti

1038
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: Serena or one of the good ones. It's not her fault,

1039
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: of course, because she had no control of the narrative,

1040
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: nor did she play alone. They even erased her blackness

1041
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: in the beginning, even though she clearly is a biracial

1042
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 1: black woman, neither part of hers white. But I point out,

1043
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: but I point to the cartoon of her when Serena

1044
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: had words the line judge, and Naomi was drawings a

1045
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: petite blonde woman while Serena was drawns wide and manish.

1046
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: I remember that, I'm crazy. But Naomi never downplayed her blackness,

1047
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: and it's recently been outspoken about black lives matter.

1048
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: The press, for the most part, gave her grace.

1049
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: Because at least she's not Serena, and then the press

1050
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: conference controversy happened.

1051
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: The first articles about her were not kind.

1052
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: Even that guy Pierce Morgan came out from his hole

1053
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: to compare Naomi to Megan Marco to say she's weaponizing

1054
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: mental health against the press. Martina Navtilova, who has a

1055
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: history of making disparagy of comments about the Williams sisters,

1056
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: had something state to say as well.

1057
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we covered that on the next episode.

1058
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: But then the tide turn and Naomi was given an

1059
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: overwhelming amount of support from other celebrities and athletes, which

1060
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: kind of forced the press to rally around her or

1061
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: look like assholes.

1062
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a.

1063
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: Few holdouts, but for the most part, I mean, like

1064
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: I said, people liking you goes a.

1065
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: Long way in everything.

1066
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Folks, like most folks principles just based on if they

1067
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: like you. Naiom On Sokka is well liked, So I

1068
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: just don't think coming out against her in any kind

1069
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: of way was smart, you know. And then of course

1070
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: what the French Open and the other opens did. I mean,

1071
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: I think that was just the worst way to handle it.

1072
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of a worse Someone tells you having

1073
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: a mental health issue, and I know they had private

1074
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: center that letter, but they decided to make it public.

1075
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: And that letter was sounded very fucking like threatening and

1076
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: like fuck your mental health, that that you're gonna talk

1077
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: to these people, Like there wasn't the worse way to

1078
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: handle it for their from their perspective, Like.

1079
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Even if you thought Naomi uh handled.

1080
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: It badly by posting it on Instagram and not talking

1081
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 1: to anybody, which I understand, I can see that point.

1082
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to argue with which I think

1083
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: people want to argue that point, mostly out of like

1084
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: loyalty to her and all this shit. But okay, so

1085
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: that's not the most opportune way to find out a

1086
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: motherfucker is about to like shirk their media responsibility. You

1087
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: probably would like them to hit you up privately or

1088
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: whatever channels they use to talk to players and communicate that.

1089
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I get it, I.

1090
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: Get it, I do you. You are a tournament, You're

1091
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 2: not a one person.

1092
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: You're not a person having a mental health issue or

1093
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: in just you're right. You're the one that's supposed to

1094
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: be around long after she's gonna and was here long

1095
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: before she was here, Right, Why the fuck are you

1096
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: responding to it the way somebody would respond to it

1097
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: from Facebook or some shit, Like why is that your response?

1098
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: Like why are you trying to out petulant quote unquote

1099
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: somebody that's not even that shouldn't even be a thing

1100
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: for you.

1101
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 3: And what's even worse, particularly for them, Let's say they

1102
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 3: wrote her that letter and they wanted to come out

1103
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: public your institution. You have a fucking pr person. Somebody

1104
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: should have read that and said, the fuck are you

1105
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 3: putting this out there, this is gonna be a goddamn problem,

1106
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: but you chose probably not to run it through your

1107
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: PR person or either your PR person don't have the

1108
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: power that they should to be like, this is gonna

1109
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 3: be a fucking shit show, and you put it out

1110
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 3: there and it all hell broke lose and it made

1111
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 3: it even worse.

1112
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Even if you're being fake as fuck rat, just do

1113
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: it because it looks good. If they could have just said, listen,

1114
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: we're open to talking about now on me and her

1115
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: mental health, and we're listening, and we feel that all

1116
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: our athletes should participate in the media, but if we

1117
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: can make some accommodations, we would love to work with her.

1118
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: So just some platitudes, even if behind the scenes, y'all

1119
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: way in closed on me is like this bitch fuck her.

1120
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: I think she's really just doing this for some bullshit reasons. Fine,

1121
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: in public, this is the easiest layup, and you blew it.

1122
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: You blew it. And that's why the discussion turned into

1123
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: one of do we even need depressing all this shit

1124
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: is because the way it was handled right away made

1125
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: it look fucked up. So, like I said, you need

1126
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: to be the adult she's twenty three years old. They're like,

1127
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: you need to be an adult in here. And this

1128
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: could also you know, while it will disrupt their business

1129
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: and shit, and they don't have a they didn't have

1130
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: any time to like change anything, but this could turn

1131
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,280
Speaker 1: into something where you get something positive out of it.

1132
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Changes always bad, you know, like change, like a change

1133
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,959
Speaker 1: that changes the way they interact with the media could

1134
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: be good. You could get better questions, or you could

1135
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: get better reactions, or you could get players that show

1136
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: up wanting to participate as opposed to like I gotta

1137
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: do this shit. There's a bunch of shit that could

1138
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,439
Speaker 1: have happened, you know. So you know, and like I said,

1139
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: I get that the IG post had some pawning shit

1140
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: in it.

1141
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: I get that there was a little bit inflammatory.

1142
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: Dog. You don't have to you don't have to bust back,

1143
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: like what do you think was gonna happen? Oh, y'all

1144
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: showed her. Thank you because you know what, I as

1145
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: a tennis than you know what, I wanted to not

1146
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: see the best one of the best tennis players in

1147
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: the world of tournament.

1148
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also the thing is because your institution, you

1149
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 3: know what, you're like the bully, and that's why everybody

1150
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: rallied to her side, because it literally looked like y'all

1151
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 3: came in and started fucking with her. Even if you

1152
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: was right, it don't fucking matter. You're the institution.

1153
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, you look stupid now. But that's

1154
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: one of the things, like I sometimes I will say

1155
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: this about me because of like she'll see the way

1156
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: I talk to people, especially on social media or you know,

1157
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: with the podcast and stuff, that she'll be like, one

1158
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: of the things I like about you is that you

1159
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: don't necessarily start like you don't inflame shit if you

1160
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: don't feel like you have to, right. And there's a

1161
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of times where uh, and it's something I had

1162
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: to work at where I could take what somebody is

1163
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: saying in a personal or negative light, but I try

1164
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: to be aware of how much of that is my

1165
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: intention and how much is their intention. Right, Sometimes they

1166
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: do mean it to offend, but even then I can

1167
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: choose if I decide that that I'm gonna let it

1168
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: be offensive to me, if I'm going to give them

1169
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: the response that they want. Sometimes you got the right ones,

1170
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't. But I think that when I looked

1171
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: at that exchange. It's like if someone would have wrote

1172
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: me that letter, Hey, I don't want to do this

1173
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: because of my mental health, blah blah. Like for example,

1174
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: me and Justin does the pregame and the balls. If

1175
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 1: Justin wrote us that on our Wednesday, the day before

1176
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: the show, I can't imagine in a million fucking years,

1177
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit him back like, uh, well you said,

1178
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: and if you don't, then you will not be on

1179
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: the show no more.

1180
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine.

1181
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: That because you're going to the extreme right and so

1182
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: imagining this making it through the hands of not just

1183
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: the French, open every other major going yes, this is

1184
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: what we want to do. Let's email her, and then

1185
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: on top of that, going, let's show the public what

1186
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: we sent her. Is such a huge error in judgment,

1187
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: somebody ain't need to get fired.

1188
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 3: Well, and I'm gonna tell you my opinion. They did

1189
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: it because they thought they was right. And they did

1190
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: it because they thought that the public was going to

1191
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 3: pick their side. Because if they thought that the public

1192
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 3: was not going to pick their side, they would have

1193
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: never released those statements. Somebody made a bad decision, era decision.

1194
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing that tells you. A lot of

1195
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: those people don't understand when you're dealing with somebody's neurodivergent

1196
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: or having a mental health crisis. They don't understand. We

1197
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: don't have an understanding of what that looks like. For

1198
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: the most part, people think it's like someone breaking down,

1199
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: crying in front of them, someone needing to go to

1200
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: some like place that will hold them and they won't

1201
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: be able to.

1202
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: But sometimes you can be high functioning.

1203
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be good in one area but not another.

1204
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's hard for people to imagine

1205
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: she's been dealing with bounce of depression and all this

1206
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: stuff since twenty eight but that she's also the Naomi

1207
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: Osaka that sells us Gatorade and sells us Nike and

1208
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: so you know, and it has a rapper boyfriend and

1209
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: and where's black lives don't matter? Because what comes with

1210
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: that is this this idea in our heads that you're

1211
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: a stronger person. Not to mention sports, lionizes the strong

1212
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: the strongest one wins the best, old conquers the worst,

1213
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: and we can't. And your mental fortitude is that's what

1214
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: That's what it means when you win, you're mentally and

1215
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: physically stronger than everybody else. And so in our minds,

1216
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: we can't associate a champion and a person that can

1217
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: experience depression and and have to fight through it, not

1218
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: just not just experience it one time, but experience it

1219
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: multiple times. We can't associate a person that can stare

1220
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: down Serena Williams and win with a person that says

1221
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't talk to the press right now. We can't

1222
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: associate that.

1223
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those things can exist. And you and you

1224
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: said black lives don't matter, you mean black lives matter.

1225
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 4: I mean, no problem. Yeah, I just wanted to make

1226
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: that clear.

1227
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 2: I was being honest with my real feelings for the

1228
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: first time. No, no, I finally slip. You got me

1229
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1230
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 4: Do you need to take your skin and my man

1231
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 4: to a whole less white man.

1232
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: It took it took years and years of me breaking down,

1233
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: but finally you got me.

1234
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 3: Go ahead, even he talking about lies, he lied to

1235
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 3: us for me. I think I agree. And like I

1236
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: said before, there are a lot of people who aren't

1237
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 3: famous that are really really good at their job, whatever

1238
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 3: it is. They excel and they deal with the same

1239
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 3: thing people wear multip perhaps all the time people can

1240
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: mentally separate things. People could say I have a job

1241
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: to do, I'm gonna do my job, and the second

1242
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: that job ends and I go home, they could be

1243
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: crying and depressed and go through those things. It's like

1244
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: a switch because I've been there. It's like a switch

1245
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: you can flip off and own. And people that have

1246
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: never deal with depression, they don't understand depression or they

1247
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: mistake depression is sadness. The sadness can turn into depression,

1248
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: but they think sadness is depression and they're not the same.

1249
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: And it's one of those things where they feel like,

1250
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 3: well I was sad, I got over it, and they

1251
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 3: just assumed that that's what depression is. And they just

1252
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,439
Speaker 3: assume that anytime you say these things because they've never

1253
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: dealt with it personally, this is their definition of it.

1254
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are self diagnoseding that shit anyway, right,

1255
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: something sad happens and they just go on social media

1256
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: depressed or whatever. But like those clinical definitions of this,

1257
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: and not everybody has access to the clinic and stuff.

1258
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: Not that that's Naomi's issue, but.

1259
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: I just can't I don't know, I just can't imagine

1260
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: handling it worse.

1261
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that's why the discussion turned into what it was,

1262
01:00:53,400 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: because you accepted her original thing of it's me versus y'all,

1263
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: and when you did that, you ultimately stepped into it

1264
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: to be the bad guy because they really had it

1265
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: never should be that. It never should be that you

1266
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: have to be like, nah, I'm not gonna I'm.

1267
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: Not here to fight you.

1268
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: So if this is something you need to help with,

1269
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: this is not the way to do it. We're gonna

1270
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: let's set up a way to do this, you know,

1271
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: instead of fuck you come here and play or else.

1272
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh you will never play again.

1273
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: Like now you look like the bad guy that she said.

1274
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: You were right and honestly, truth be told, even though

1275
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: regardless of how you felt she handled it, the way

1276
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: they responded it just confirmed a lot of biases that

1277
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 3: people already had about these systems. It's like, oh, we

1278
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 3: kind of thought these things, and y'all coming out with

1279
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 3: these statements are just confirming the way people kind of

1280
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 3: already felt about these institutions anyway. And it's one of

1281
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 3: those things where maybe when not turning funding Venus's Erna

1282
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: was around, y'allmight could have got away with this, but

1283
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 3: it's changed, but y'all haven't. So y'all using some of

1284
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: the same tactics that you would have used a decade

1285
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: or two ago, and the climate is like no, because

1286
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 3: the thing is, majority of the people that consume tennis

1287
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: are white, and so they thought they was gonna cater

1288
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 3: to this white fan base, and they got the shock

1289
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: of their lives when them and other black and brown

1290
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: people who also actually loved the sport started speaking out.

1291
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 3: They were not prepared for it and this and for me,

1292
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: for you been an institution, it's terrible that you have

1293
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 3: a lack of planning all this George Floyd and all

1294
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 3: that shit. Every I'm assuming all of them said fuck

1295
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 3: it because at some period of time somebody somewhere should

1296
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: have ran this and be like, this is not cool.

1297
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: What are you guys doing?

1298
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think people like now, you know, it's

1299
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: just more than anything we like I said, you brought

1300
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: up that point and I thought it was such a

1301
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: great plan about Kanye West. We people have dismissed folks

1302
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: mental health crisises many many, many times when they don't

1303
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: like you.

1304
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 2: Yes they have you know, when someone starts talking about

1305
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: this kind.

1306
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: Of shit, people be like, fuck you, you know, not to

1307
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: mention she had to, like basically not forced to, because

1308
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: that's probably not that's not accurate to say she was

1309
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: forced to. But she ended up feeling like she had

1310
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: to disclose that she was dealing specifically with depression and

1311
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: where it started and all this stuff. And to me,

1312
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: if I'm Tennis, I be mortified that that's something that

1313
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: she felt like she had to do because of our response,

1314
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: because it's like, I mean, obviously, if I'm Tennis, I

1315
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: never find that way in the first place.

1316
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: But I would be like, yo, we fucked up.

1317
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: Because this is a mental health is health, so you

1318
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: don't really need to disclose. If someone has cancer, they

1319
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: don't need to tell you I'm taking this week off

1320
01:03:59,240 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: for cancer.

1321
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1322
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: But here we are being like, explain yourself. We need

1323
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: to know what it is exactly, because you know, I

1324
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: think before when she was being vague, when someone is vague,

1325
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: it talks, It tells you a lot about yourself because

1326
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: they're asking you to fill in the gap. Right. So

1327
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: if I trust you and you come to me and say, Rod,

1328
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking it off, I'm just I need a mental

1329
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: health day.

1330
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 2: I go, Okay, something must be going on with Karen.

1331
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: She needs a day off.

1332
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 2: If I don't trust.

1333
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: You, then it's she's lying, she's embellishing about it.

1334
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: Ain't nothing wrong with her mental health.

1335
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: This is these damn kids and this self care bullshit.

1336
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: And so now when you come back with that type

1337
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: of energy, and I have to be like, well, Okay,

1338
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: I had a miscarriage last night.

1339
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not coming in.

1340
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: Oh God, you should feel like shit that that person

1341
01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: even had to fucking like you're helping to re traumatize

1342
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: person or whatever. So I think, like I said, they

1343
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: handle the shitty. I think the reason, part of the

1344
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: reason they handle the shitty can't be separated from it's

1345
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: a racist, misogynistic world in sport. And a part of

1346
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: the reason people defend their so hard is because it's

1347
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: a racist, misogynistic world in sport and they feel like

1348
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: they're defending her by holding her up as an example.

1349
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: The part that worries me and I always you know,

1350
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: tends up a little bit, is people are human beings,

1351
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: individuals first, before we start trying to throw them on

1352
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: the mount rushmore of like be our avatar. It should

1353
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: be very important that that you get to be yourself

1354
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: and if yourself is feeling like I'm not up to

1355
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of this shit right now, that's all it

1356
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: matters to me. I'm not gonna take you and then

1357
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: be like and this is speaking for black people who

1358
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: want to say that we need that we are tired, Like, no,

1359
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: you don't need to carry all that for me, you

1360
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I carry that for myself.

1361
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: Lest I would love to hear her talk for herself

1362
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: after this. I'm sure at some point she probably will,

1363
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: As she said, she has cultivated some very good relationships

1364
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: with lots of media people, so I'm sure that that

1365
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: we'll hear something from her at some point.

1366
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: But priority number one is just to get healthy.

1367
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: Man. I hope she just get healthy. I don't you

1368
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: know the same way. Don't feel if you hurt your ankle,

1369
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I just hope you

1370
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: find especially if you've been dealing with this is twenty eighteen. Like,

1371
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: imagine someone told you I've been I had a missing

1372
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: leak kneeligament since twenty eighteen. We'd be like, how the

1373
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: fuck did.

1374
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: You do that?

1375
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 3: Right? What happened?

1376
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: And like you've been playing and winning all this time.

1377
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that when I heard when I heard

1378
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: her say depression, that's the first thing I thought.

1379
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:42,720
Speaker 3: Shit.

1380
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: When I thought she said mental health, I was like, Okay, okay,

1381
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: this sounds kind of serious. Everyone calmed the fuck down,

1382
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: and instead we had to go through this fight again anyway,

1383
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: And then the press conference controversy happened. The first articles

1384
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: about her were even that, oh yeah, we said that,

1385
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: but then the tide turned, and at this point all

1386
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: this to say, I think Naomi being the one to

1387
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: push mental health awareness in the price of a press, well,

1388
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: the press was the right person, even if it wasn't

1389
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: her intention to begin with, and to be truthful, I

1390
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: don't think it was. I think she is genuinely depressed

1391
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: and tired. But with it being her being her, a

1392
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 1: conversation has begun because had it been Serena, the press

1393
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: would have had a feel that, even though she and

1394
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: Venus had done more for tennis than any other players

1395
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: have done for that sport, I think Serena now. I

1396
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: think in a weird way, I think if Serena did

1397
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: it now, she'd be more supported, but only because she

1398
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: sacrificed so fucking much and it's to be expected of her.

1399
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: Like you said earlier, they promoted Naomi as an anti Serena,

1400
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: which we all saw through we all knew was bullshit,

1401
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: but white people was really on some like I like her,

1402
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: which proves I'm not racist for hating Serena and Venus,

1403
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: but because I like this other black girl, you know.

1404
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1405
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: And so she kind of said, well, your girl needs

1406
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: a day off, and they were like, oh the fuck, bitch, Oh.

1407
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what you thought this was.

1408
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: And it's like the dracist jumped out on a lot

1409
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: of these people, the entitlement jumped out in the fans

1410
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: and the tournament.

1411
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:25,919
Speaker 2: But she's so likable.

1412
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of people have her back in

1413
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: a way that.

1414
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: Serena.

1415
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: I think Serena is more like I don't need y'all

1416
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: to have my back. That's just the vibe she gives off.

1417
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's not human or anything, but she

1418
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: has been giving off the vibe of I came here

1419
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: my father to get instilled me with all the pride

1420
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: and shit.

1421
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 2: I need, and I know I'm right.

1422
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: So y'all can either ad men I'm right, or y'all

1423
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: can get followed the funck off. But I'm right and

1424
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: I'll be winning, and I know what I'm doing, and

1425
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: it took years for her to develop that, you know,

1426
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: whereas you know Naomi's twenty three, man like, this is

1427
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: really her first time even in men something just like

1428
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: the other than the Black Lives Matter mask, This is

1429
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: her first time really doing something like this, So.

1430
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: Anyway, I hope she'll be all right.

1431
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: On another note, when I first saw the Ellie Klepper

1432
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Kemper story, I was like, no, not Kimmy Smith. I

1433
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: love the show mainly for Titus, but I enjoyed her

1434
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: in the office as well. God admit I chuckled at

1435
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: some of the jokes, but glad I waited for the

1436
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 1: full story to come out before passing judgment.

1437
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: Yup, that's how it would be.

1438
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: Full story, never as fun as the jokes and shit

1439
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,839
Speaker 1: that context I read gave me a lot. I was like, oh,

1440
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: well that makes a lot more sense because I did it.

1441
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: She was just some fucking KKK queen and never no one.

1442
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: Ever noticed or brought it up until this year.

1443
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me. That's just not how any of

1444
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: this has ever worked. And then just one motherfucker discovered

1445
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: it on Twitter and it was printed in the paper.

1446
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: But it was the clan rally shit like from nineteen

1447
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: ninety nine, not nineteen sixty five. Like all of it

1448
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: didn't add up, but it didn't make for a fun

1449
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: I guess Twitter thread controversy and everybody got to do that.

1450
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 1: I knew, I bitch, I never liked to you know,

1451
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: everybody got to do that shit. And they're like, good

1452
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: for y'all, but that ain't really what happened.

1453
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

1454
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: Do you think they only talker will ever do another

1455
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: press conference?

1456
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

1457
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: Yes? Ninety six for the send of the audience says yes,

1458
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: four percent says no. And I think that's the truth,

1459
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's why I didn't

1460
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: want to go so extreme that we don't even need

1461
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: press conference, and like that's not true. You know, Serena

1462
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: telling I mean Venus telling them motherfuckers they couldn't hold

1463
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: a Canada magnafique. That's what I want out of life.

1464
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: Give me more, but yeah, I only want people that

1465
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: want to participate in it. And maybe that'll be what changes.

1466
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 1: It won't be compulsory no more, or they'll find a

1467
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 1: way to make it where even when it's mandatory, maybe

1468
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: you can opt out of certain questions or I don't

1469
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 1: guess you can kind of do that now, but you know,

1470
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: or maybe they'll they'll have some new rules for the

1471
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 1: press pit, like listen, ask these these are the questions

1472
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 1: we specifically.

1473
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: Will like to see you ask or something. I don't know.

1474
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 1: I do think there's a value to it that people

1475
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 1: are throwing away and in a very emotional protective response

1476
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 1: right now, and that's fine, But I just don't think

1477
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: that's how it's gonna work out, you know.

1478
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 2: I half a fucking sport.

1479
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: Like what was so funny when people said when they

1480
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: were like it don't matter, I was like, turn on,

1481
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: turn on ESPN or NBA TV, don't touch the channel

1482
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: for an hour, watch them do game coverage. I'd say

1483
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the coverage is after they show you

1484
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: the highlights. What people had to say about that after

1485
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 1: the game, whether it be the coaches, the players, what

1486
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: almost fifty percent of it is just like and this

1487
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: is what Trey Young said after the game.

1488
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 2: We wanted to ask him about this play.

1489
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: We wanted to ask him about that play, right The

1490
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,759
Speaker 1: idea that there's no value in that, and nobody cares.

1491
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: It's a lie, and I just that's the kind of

1492
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: shit I don't like because it's that, you know, it's

1493
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 1: the kwame brunt. We can't call people sorry no more.

1494
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: It's just like, well, now you're lying in my face.

1495
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, you don't believe that we're gonna be right

1496
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: back here in the month and you're gonna be telling

1497
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: me that some Newton players sorry, and you're not gonna

1498
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: be talking about his mental health of what it's gonna

1499
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: do to him twenty years down the road, because no

1500
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: one thinks that way, right because you don't care. So

1501
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: you know, that was the only part that bothered me

1502
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: about some of the defense.

1503
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 2: The rest are it.

1504
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, pretty much agree with everything. But Kim Knock

1505
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 1: says she will if she went, oh I'm sorry. Four

1506
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: percent said no. They don't think she'll ever do another

1507
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: press conference. That'll be interesting if she.

1508
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Decides not to.

1509
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: You like, my full support either way, but that'll definitely

1510
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: be She probably be the first athlete I can think

1511
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 1: of that would not do any press conferences. Although she

1512
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 1: says she has fought with some really good relationships with

1513
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: personally with some journalists, so I can see that being

1514
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: a new thing, like I'm just doing one on one

1515
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: interviews or I'll talk to this person after the matches,

1516
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: but not everybody, and that'll be interesting to see if

1517
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: that works. Kim Doc says she will if she wins,

1518
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: but I'm supportive of her doing a complete strike. She

1519
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: has the soul of an angel, and they handle her

1520
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 1: pretty rough, even when she was explicit about her reasons

1521
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: for not wanting to do press conferences. I've also know

1522
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: that Serena and Venus have some extra spice to their

1523
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: answers to questions, and I love it. Yeah, that's the

1524
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: conflict of being human, right, Like, on the one hand,

1525
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: it's like she shouldn't have to do those she don't

1526
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: want to, and at the same time, when Serena and

1527
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: Venus is out there like making these motherfuckers feel terrible,

1528
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: we're like, yes, boy, give me more custies niggas house

1529
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: Serene tell them Venus like, I don't know cash twenty two.

1530
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 2: Joe says, I'm guessing that she will.

1531
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully she gets stronger and or more control, She will

1532
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: have more confidence in the overall process of playing tennis.

1533
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: That won't be as impacted by these pressures. She may

1534
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: also decide that professional tennis is not the life for her,

1535
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: which is also fun.

1536
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 2: Y'all thought about that too, Like.

1537
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: It's easy for us who see how great she is

1538
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: to be like yeah, like obviously she gonna do this

1539
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: for the rest of her life or however long she can.

1540
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: But I mean, if you're not finding enjoy in this

1541
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: shit and you've already made your money and shit, I mean,

1542
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: and who knows what it feels like when you've been

1543
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: a kid at the highest levels your whole life. Who

1544
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: knows what that feels like? The pressure she puts on herself,

1545
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: the goal she has, what she has had to deal

1546
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 1: with that she doesn't like about it. You know, who

1547
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: knows what's really what really bothers her?

1548
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1549
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: So like, if doing the press is a byproduct, doing

1550
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: commercials is a byproduct, doing interview is a byproduct, Being

1551
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 1: a public figure is a byproduct, and say, those are

1552
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: all things she hates, even though her gift in her

1553
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: work is to be one of the best people attendant,

1554
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: I can see being like, fuck tennis, then I can

1555
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: go back to being just nailing your soccer. That don't

1556
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: have to deal with this shit. I made my money

1557
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 1: and I'm good. It's not worth my mental health because,

1558
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: like I said, when I hear depression, man, depression can

1559
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: mean a lot of fucking things about people. I always think, well,

1560
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: what if it's the worst case scenario, and then I go, yeah,

1561
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: well then you gotta do whatever you gotta do period.

1562
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 3: You know.

1563
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: But as good as she seems.

1564
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: To be, I don't know that it would be easy

1565
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: for Naiomi to just lead a sport. Continued participation in

1566
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: sport smaller tournaments with smaller press rooms might be good

1567
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 1: preparation to bill readiness for the larger.

1568
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: Events, possibly, you know, possibly.

1569
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: Anyway, number one thing for me is just I hope

1570
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: she's okay and that she gets, you know, that she

1571
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: can feel okay with all this shit. The rest of it,

1572
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 1: the rest of it don't really matter, you know what

1573
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: I mean. The rest is just us speculating and and

1574
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: uh whatnot. But man, I really, I really hope she

1575
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: gets to be okay. Last one, episode twenty three forty five,

1576
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,639
Speaker 1: Big Gay Cereal ev He says the report the reporter

1577
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: during the story signing so offended over some cereal he

1578
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: probably doesn't eat it's like Karen be infended about Arby's right,

1579
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: all right, even you know what I'm saying.

1580
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: I tried to find that cereal that didn't have it.

1581
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we couldn't find that cereal our loco. I guess

1582
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: we need to go to the gay is the gay publics?

1583
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: Is there a gay.

1584
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: Public I don't know. I hope it is.

1585
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: It's probably over there off of Central.

1586
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: We need to go it probably is. It's probably licks.

1587
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 2: You coming to publicea hain't two glow sticks?

1588
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 5: Like.

1589
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: I don't know how it works.

1590
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: I am here for it. If it does exist, just.

1591
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: Walk in, walk in and uh yeah, roller skates and

1592
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: booty shorts.

1593
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm herepoid.

1594
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 2: You make me feel like, what is this?

1595
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: What is this?

1596
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: I'm shopping him from that home and nowhere else? Who

1597
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: put on these disco likes?

1598
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: Mom hot real Ms. Barnes says, I was that person

1599
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: that felt guilty over not buying a home. Even had

1600
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: a friend shamey about my purchase in the home and

1601
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 1: she was able to afford one and uh me only

1602
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: able to afford rent. I'm now in the stage of

1603
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: researching the prospect of owning a condo slash townhouse. Like

1604
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,720
Speaker 1: Karen said, it's that and while on paper, owning a

1605
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: home looks great, but based on what I've seen with

1606
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 1: my friends, it's a headache with repairs up keep going

1607
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: to loads of home depot on a consistent basis. Fun fact,

1608
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: my sister and I inherited our mother's home and we

1609
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 1: are in the cleaning out age of the house and

1610
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,719
Speaker 1: that's the easy part. We have to deal with the mold,

1611
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 1: clean up, remodeling, property taxes, homeowns, insurance, redoing the pipes.

1612
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: Filters for the well water. Damn.

1613
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: The list goes on to all this money has to

1614
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: come from somewhere, shaking my damn head.

1615
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: We will not.

1616
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: Sell, as Land appreciates, but it is a whole headache

1617
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: for a house that no one can live in at

1618
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, people don't think about that shit, man,

1619
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: but it is, especially if you're not used to doing it,

1620
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: Like that might be why you run it. I don't

1621
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 1: feel like dealing with this, And then it's like, well,

1622
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: now you got to deal with it because you inherit

1623
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: this house. And you know the emotional part of that

1624
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: is you don't want to just like fuck this house,

1625
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: I'm selling it or whatever. So now it's like I

1626
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: got a thing that's kind of like a responsibility.

1627
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: And now for a lot of people, they move into

1628
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: like these communities with like townhomes and things like that,

1629
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: and what they do they have it where they have

1630
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 3: Homeowning's association fees where they don't have to deal with that.

1631
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: So I'm paying a mortgage, but I also have the

1632
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 3: privileges of renting too, as far as maintenance people and

1633
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 3: all those other expenses. So for a lot of people,

1634
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 3: they'll do that, and that's kind of a midway point

1635
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: for people, so they go, I don't want all of

1636
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 3: the expenses to fall on me because that's very expensive.

1637
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: And like I said before, people act like when you

1638
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: bring these things up that there's something wrong with you

1639
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 3: for going. I don't want to deal with that, right.

1640
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 1: Uh the poe Do you have homeowners of grad?

1641
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 2: Yes?

1642
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: No? Or I don't own a home? Five percent of

1643
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: the audience says yes, forty one percent say no, and

1644
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: fifty four percent do not own a home. Alizia says,

1645
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: I was really angry for a long time because I

1646
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: believed in that American dream. Lie. I grew up in

1647
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: the suburbs with poor middle class white folks. We all

1648
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 1: went to school together, went on to college, started working

1649
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,759
Speaker 1: around the same time. But yet after try and sodawn hard,

1650
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: I still don't own a home and I could barely

1651
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: afford to I graduated college in twenty thirteen. Yet the

1652
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: white people I went to school with, the all thriving

1653
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: home owners making good money and just couldn't figure out why.

1654
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: I just couldn't figure out why. And then oh, yeah, racism.

1655
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: It is so subtle. Like my coworker who is in

1656
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 1: the same position I am now in the same companies,

1657
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: started off making seventy five hundred more dollars than me.

1658
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 1: Maybe I could have negotiated better, or maybe they value

1659
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: me less, and the position has evolved so that I'm

1660
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,519
Speaker 1: doing more.

1661
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: Than she did.

1662
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great for my resume, but damn it,

1663
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: I want that money now. And when she was in

1664
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: the same position I am in now, they paid her

1665
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: to her study materials for her license and pay for

1666
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: another white woman to take the test. But when I

1667
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: go and ask, oh, no, sweetie, we don't pay for that.

1668
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 1: Maybe the policy has just changed, or maybe they just

1669
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: don't want to invest in me.

1670
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,480
Speaker 2: Shit hurts, and it's so frustrated.

1671
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: Sorry I went off on the tangent, but yeah, I

1672
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: wish I had home buyers for more so I could

1673
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: sell in this reality, not in this real really not

1674
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 1: market or really market and get a better one.

1675
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1676
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: I really feel you on that, Alicia. And I think

1677
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: that is like the crip in doubt and imposter syndron

1678
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: that so many black people live with, including myself. Well,

1679
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: I was at a job where I was getting underpaid

1680
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: for years and then they gave me like this increase

1681
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And I think they gave the increase

1682
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: because they knew that I could possibly have found out. Hey,

1683
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 1: the people they are hiring that are new are making

1684
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: more money than me. And I've been here for eight

1685
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: to ten years, and that's so ridiculous. You know, that

1686
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: one to three raise every year was not catching up

1687
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: keeping up with nothing.

1688
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: No, they love to throw his extra quarter an hour.

1689
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 3: You're like, the fuck is this right?

1690
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: So I definitely feel for you that Bridge says I've

1691
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: owned a Oh and then of course so many white

1692
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: people who will tell you like, ah, bro, I don't

1693
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:45,959
Speaker 1: have white privilege.

1694
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 2: I never did this.

1695
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: I never did that, you know, because they're always looking

1696
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: up the ladder, like.

1697
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: Look at this rich, rich, rich person. I'm not damn.

1698
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: And then you just have little talks and you just

1699
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: realize the subtle ways that like, oh so your parents

1700
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 1: own property and were able to give you a few

1701
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for the down payment on your home. Oh

1702
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: they gave you a car, or your interest rate is

1703
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: lower than mine, even though we don't have any difference

1704
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: in our credit histories. How many fucking times we have

1705
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: to look at just all these these pieces people do

1706
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 1: these studies of like we called and we applied for

1707
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: a job with a black person's name on the resume.

1708
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: Then we did it with a white person and the white.

1709
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 1: Person got a call back or they got a better offer,

1710
01:22:29,560 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: and it's just like we made sure the resumes were

1711
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: the exact same, and it's like we live in a

1712
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 1: racist world.

1713
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: You know the woman that sold her house by having

1714
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 2: her white.

1715
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: Friends sell it pretend that they lived there instead of her,

1716
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: and it sold for a lot more money. I don't

1717
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: know if we covered on the show yet, but the point.

1718
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: Being like, yeah, man, that's that's that privilege.

1719
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,560
Speaker 3: M and I remember when you had white friends. That

1720
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 3: was their thing.

1721
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 4: They was like raw, you go you go in the house.

1722
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm looking at that, like, nigga, I'm

1723
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 3: sitting here, listen you and you got money from family

1724
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: and friends, if somebody gave you a home or or

1725
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 3: some shit like that. And I'm like, but you you

1726
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 3: got help and assistance a lot of times.

1727
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: Well, I'm fortunate in that my parents may have been

1728
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: in a position to help that. It's just not what

1729
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: I wanted like they. I think that was hard for

1730
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 1: them to relate to. It was like I don't want

1731
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: a home, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not

1732
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: planning to own that shit. So but yeah, I think

1733
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: I think that was the hardest part. But yeah, all

1734
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: of them also had lots of help.

1735
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: One of them.

1736
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 1: There was one dude, that cool dude and all this stuff.

1737
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: That's not a shot at him. I'm sure he'll never

1738
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 1: hear this anyway, But there was one dude that had

1739
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,879
Speaker 1: like a high school degree. His one of my buddies

1740
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: was his friend and just said, come to Charlotte, I'll

1741
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: hook you, I'll find someone I know somebody, just give

1742
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: you a job.

1743
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: And his job he made way more money than me.

1744
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:05,639
Speaker 2: High school degree.

1745
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Just that's it. Like talk to this person. They know me,

1746
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: I vouched for you. Now you got this job, and

1747
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all just don't understand. That's not something that

1748
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: can that we can do that happens for black people often.

1749
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: This is not I don't know how to.

1750
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: Tell you, Like it's hard for you to believe because

1751
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: you never lived in a world where it wasn't like that, right,

1752
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you that's not how that shit

1753
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: works for us. You could have done the same thing,

1754
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 1: and maybe that dude goes, I'm not gonna pay ride

1755
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: that much, you know what I mean? Like, you could

1756
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: love me the same way you love this friend.

1757
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: You could vouch me the same way. You could get

1758
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 2: me that interview.

1759
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: I could do that whole interview, do great, And then

1760
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 1: he could be like, I know, I told you that

1761
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: this is a ninety thousand dollars a year job, but

1762
01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give your friend Rod seventy thousand because I

1763
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: don't think we need to pay him that much.

1764
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: And why I don't know why.

1765
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: It's not because he's black, though I don't really know

1766
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: why I'm doing it because I can. It's just good business.

1767
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,320
Speaker 1: Bridge says, I've owned the home for over ten years.

1768
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: I understand why people have remorse over owning the home.

1769
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: We had to put in a lot of work the

1770
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: first few years, and to be honest, me and my

1771
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,719
Speaker 1: husband were ready to sell. But we've learned that the beauty,

1772
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of home ownership.

1773
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 2: There's always something lol.

1774
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 1: But you get their joy the quality you put into

1775
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: the home, and understand this is ours. We've been able

1776
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: to pay for the repairs we have to have we

1777
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,720
Speaker 1: have had to put into this place, thank God, and

1778
01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: we get to appreciate that a little bit more, y'all

1779
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: hear you Bridget.

1780
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: What's funny to me is homeowner is a lot like.

1781
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 1: Stand up comedian, because as soon as you get the house,

1782
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: it's like you a homeowner. It's like, actually, it's gonna

1783
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 1: be years and years and years of paying this shit off.

1784
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 2: Then I own the home.

1785
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 1: But yes, thank you, you know what I mean, Like

1786
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: stand up comedian porn stars, like as soon as you

1787
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: do one scene, it's like, there you go, guess what

1788
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: you are now? A homeowner? Shady Dame says, we don't

1789
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: regret buying our home at all. Yeah, home ownership is

1790
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: a scam. However, it's one of the few that passed

1791
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: along generational wealth easily.

1792
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 2: Never mind the fact that we were renting.

1793
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 1: We were we never needed to spend thousand dollars replace

1794
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: in the driveway, redoing the deck, replacing the windows. Man.

1795
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: I do, man, I always do think wonder Like when

1796
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 1: you're in a home and it's like, I don't know,

1797
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: like you just looked around and go, fuck, we need

1798
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 1: new windows. Like oh that feeling like it must just

1799
01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: be like oh, like unless you're rich and you just

1800
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: like make the windows arches or whatever and you just

1801
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: can just snap a finger.

1802
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 2: But I bet for a lot of people it's like.

1803
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, no, take it a loan.

1804
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: What is this? What is this gonna be?

1805
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like, it's like I was

1806
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: on the deck, honey, and one of the railings fell off.

1807
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, Okay, all right, either I gotta get a

1808
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:01,639
Speaker 1: hammer and some nails to figure the shit out. We're

1809
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: gonna have to get somebody come in here and give

1810
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: them thousands of dollars.

1811
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was raised in at home, but I

1812
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 3: remember my mama getting siding and the thousands of dollars

1813
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 3: for sid and I was like, well, what's the point

1814
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 3: of getting the side and she's like, so I don't

1815
01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 3: have to fucking paint this fuck all the time. I

1816
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: was like, oh, she was like yeah, because you have

1817
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: to pay to keep the paint job on there, and

1818
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,839
Speaker 3: with siding, you don't have to do that. Like that's

1819
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 3: a cost that you know, I'm trying to eliminate. But

1820
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 3: you pay more for siding because it lasts longer. Things

1821
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,200
Speaker 3: like that.

1822
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: When you think about it, are we actually making money

1823
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: on home ownership where we take all the extras in

1824
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: the consideration? You know what. I don't know, but uh

1825
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. I don't know.

1826
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: You know, life is weird, all right, Let's get to

1827
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 2: the voicemail.

1828
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: We got one voicemail seven O four five five seven

1829
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: zero one a six. Let's play this for you, Jen

1830
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, I believe.

1831
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,640
Speaker 5: He and Karen. It's Jen in La having calls in

1832
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 5: a while. I just wanting to say hello episodes this week.

1833
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 5: I have enjoyed listening to y'all as always. Hopefully it's

1834
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 5: not too windy out here and y'all can hear me.

1835
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just wanted to talk about the Naomi

1836
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 5: Osaka debacle. I thought that y'all made some really great points. Yeah,

1837
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 5: I pretty much agree with everything that you said, And

1838
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 5: I don't watch a ton of tennis, which is why

1839
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 5: I thought it was so funny that you brought up

1840
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 5: like a lot of us have these opinions, but we

1841
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 5: don't really watch the sport. So I don't watch a

1842
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 5: lot of tennis. But my mom really loves tennis, So

1843
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 5: anytime I'm in North Carolina, my mom will watch it.

1844
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 5: She just kind of have it on the background. And

1845
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 5: one thing that she mentioned about Serena and Venus is

1846
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:42,360
Speaker 5: that they don't call plays like they will never have

1847
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 5: the judge like rejudge a play. If they think it's out,

1848
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 5: they'll just keep it going. And I think part of

1849
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 5: that is their conditioning as black women that you have

1850
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 5: to work twice as hard to get half as much.

1851
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 5: And I thought that was so interesting because even regardless

1852
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 5: of them not call them plays, they still are the

1853
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 5: top at the top, especially Serena. So I think that's

1854
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 5: something that Naomi's probably watched her whole life and has

1855
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 5: absorbed that and probably.

1856
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 3: Struggled so much to make the decision.

1857
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 5: To post that. However, you know, we want to take it,

1858
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 5: however we want to frame it. It was probably it

1859
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 5: was super brave for her to do that. When you

1860
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 5: called out the fact that she was twenty three, I

1861
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 5: think it's another thing that we really forget about actute period.

1862
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 5: But also just like black women, I think a lot

1863
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 5: of these basketball players as well. I'm like, dam they're

1864
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 5: young as hell. So yeah, I just really love that

1865
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 5: you kind of made me think of that situation and

1866
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 5: a totally different light. I was a team Naomi, of course,

1867
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 5: but when I had reposted it, you know, and I

1868
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 5: was like this, Bollasid was boss. That is really what

1869
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 5: I thought. I was just like, Wow, this is great.

1870
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 5: It's amazing. She's doing such great things. But you put

1871
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 5: in a different light, and I appreciate that about y'all.

1872
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 5: So that's all I wanted to say. I love y'all.

1873
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

1874
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: I think that's also our first impost now because one

1875
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: of the reasons that this happened is because she is.

1876
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: An athlete, and athletes.

1877
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: And a lot of the way they're promoted is as

1878
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: the faces of things, right, whether it be a cause

1879
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 1: or brand, a product, whatever, a sport even, and so

1880
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: that I think we are conditioned to accept that as normal,

1881
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: and so when someone is having a very personal thing.

1882
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: We still are.

1883
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 1: It's easy for us to hashtag balls, it's easy for

1884
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: us to she showed them, and all this other stuff

1885
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 1: is opposed to like whoa is she okay? Because I

1886
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: don't think it ever cross our minds that she wouldn't

1887
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: be okay. You know, I think subliminally, subconsciously, it's hard

1888
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: for us to imagine someone being excellent and not okay.

1889
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: You know, like it's just hard. It's a hard concept

1890
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: to wrap your heads around. I was like, one's the

1891
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: clearly she's okay, she's playing tennis or whatever the fuck

1892
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: it's like, or not, you know what I mean. Like,

1893
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 1: so yeah, that was the thing that stuck out to

1894
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: me about it. And it's just how much we are

1895
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: so good at just consuming each other that immediately it's

1896
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: like people turned into fans of a woman who's it's

1897
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 1: like they turn into fans of what she represents about

1898
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: depression that they literally just found out she had a

1899
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: moment ago and I.

1900
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 2: Just need to take a I just need to take

1901
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 2: a moment.

1902
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I just need a breath to be like, hold up,

1903
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: hold up, this sounds serious. It's really bigger than tennis,

1904
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: and we're gonna have plenty of time to shit on

1905
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: these tennis motherfuckers period, right, and please feel free to

1906
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: do so. I think they handled this horribly. But at

1907
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 1: the same time, I think some of what we call

1908
01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: support is really more about us and our own virtue signaling.

1909
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Through what we consume.

1910
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 1: Like, yes, like people say cancel culture isn't real, blah

1911
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm not gonna argue that that's silly. But

1912
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 1: the what cancel culture really means and what it's really about,

1913
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is virtue through consumption, in which I

1914
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:19,799
Speaker 1: mean you are as good or bad as what you consume.

1915
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 2: And that is something I just do not I firmly.

1916
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:24,839
Speaker 1: Do not believe.

1917
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 4: I push against that.

1918
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I firmly just don't believe. I don't buy it.

1919
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up that way, and I don't think

1920
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 1: anyone is that way, and I think when we do that,

1921
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 1: we do ourselves a disservice. So what happens is, since

1922
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 1: since that consumption culture or whatever is us virtue signaling

1923
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 1: through what we consume, it don't consume people and especially

1924
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: athletes are brands. So there are things we consume or

1925
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: don't consume we support or don't support, And sometimes I

1926
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:01,320
Speaker 1: think we do that to make us look look better

1927
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 1: or not better. Like so we'll say, for example, hey man,

1928
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with depression and this very da da da da,

1929
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: And then the first thing we're thinking is how can

1930
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I look good supporting this, rather than.

1931
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 2: Rather than like, what.

1932
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,479
Speaker 1: Help do you need? What would make you feel better?

1933
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: Have you talked to somebody? Is professionals involved? Because we

1934
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 1: can't know all of that.

1935
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 2: We don't know these.

1936
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: People personally in a lot of cases, but it's very

1937
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 1: much like a well, how is this making me look?

1938
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: So now I'm glimbing on to this part of your personality,

1939
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm promoting this thing, I'm sharing that thing, and the

1940
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 1: whole time we could be exacerbating the problem because we

1941
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: don't actually know what's causing this, you know. So I

1942
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 1: think it's just that that's where I go to with

1943
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff. But I think it's more

1944
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 1: just because that's how I think about all these people.

1945
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, when you're telling somebody you know,

1946
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't listen to this. I give perfect example of

1947
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: a can of the consumption culture thing. Perfect example when

1948
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: you go so and so did something racist and then

1949
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 1: the first thing people want to tell you is if

1950
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: they if they have ever supported that person or their product. Yeah,

1951
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 1: that's the first thing you hear that. That's a that's

1952
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: a heads up to like, oh, we've lost the plot,

1953
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: because it shouldn't matter whether the fuck you heard the

1954
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: album or not. I just told you, Hey, did you

1955
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: know this person is a serial killer? And you're like,

1956
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: and that's why I never listened to that TV show.

1957
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 1: You're like that that don't even have nothing to do

1958
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 1: with this.

1959
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 4: You wouldn't listen it before.

1960
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,679
Speaker 1: And that's how you because what you really just said

1961
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: is and that's how you know I'm a good person. Right, Well,

1962
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:47,519
Speaker 1: this person has murdered several children, and I think that's sad.

1963
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 2: Yes, but what's even better is the good news.

1964
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I never watched their show, So I'm better than you.

1965
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: I think we are done here, right, we can all

1966
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: go home.

1967
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 4: It's about me and I'm better, all right.

1968
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: We had a few emails of black Trauma, porn, and coons.

1969
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: This is from Tonahaha, who says high careing and Rod,

1970
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 1: thanks for the podcast your honest opinions. Their perspectives are

1971
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: both refreshing and reassurance. You're understanding of society humanity in

1972
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: general has obviously led you to predict both social and

1973
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 1: political issues with seemingly surgical precision. There aren't many black

1974
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: commentators out there that know what the fuck they are

1975
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: talking about, and most of the famous ones trafficking being

1976
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 1: ignorant and problematic, while apart from a few shows like

1977
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: the Conspiratuality Podcast, most white podcasts are morphing in the

1978
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: dude roism, obviously inspired by some ignorant, ball headed clowns

1979
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,639
Speaker 1: sitting there on one hundred million dollar Spotify contract.

1980
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Ooh the shade shots, Fine shots, Fine, we didn't.

1981
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:46,479
Speaker 1: Say it, but not one of the things that's interesting

1982
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,799
Speaker 1: there is I think.

1983
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 2: I think there just aren't a lot of people that

1984
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:54,599
Speaker 2: have the.

1985
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: Same perspectives that we have. I think a lot of

1986
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: what we do is about very surface shit. We've chosen

1987
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: to do something very different with our podcast. So the

1988
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: reason that you may get like kind of the surface

1989
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,959
Speaker 1: boilerplate Twitter said this, So let me repeat what Twitter said.

1990
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 2: And just walk away like I came up with it

1991
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: by myself.

1992
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,800
Speaker 1: I think you're getting that a lot because motherfucker's doing

1993
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:25,960
Speaker 1: like one one hour show a week, whereas me and Karen,

1994
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 1: if we want to talk about Naomi Osaka two days

1995
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: in a row for thirty forty five minutes each. No

1996
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: one can do shit to us, and we're gonna try

1997
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: to get at all the points that.

1998
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 2: We consider to be relevant.

1999
01:36:37,960 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Right. You know, if we were doing like a one

2000
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,880
Speaker 1: hour TV show or thirty minute TV show, it would

2001
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: be very surface level, like did you see this and

2002
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: don't nam Misaka?

2003
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 3: You did that?

2004
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 4: Girls don't had time to beat nuanced?

2005
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's all we will have time for, you know,

2006
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: and you know, some people fuck with it, some people don't.

2007
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to comment on last week's feedback EPISOD, where

2008
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 1: you passionately defended or more accurately gave you the honors

2009
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: appraisal on black trauma as a genre. It is definitely

2010
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: one of the most complex issues with regards to enfertainment.

2011
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: On one hand, state saction massacres of black bodies have

2012
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: been swept under the carpet brandish banished by history textbooks,

2013
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: especially in the South. For example, the Texas Board of

2014
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,840
Speaker 1: Education is highly committed to rewriting history, referring to slaves

2015
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:25,400
Speaker 1: as immigrant workers, blotting now all mentioned of the Greenwood massacres.

2016
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, slave movie series like them Watchmen in Lovecraft

2017
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: Country are essentially bridging this artificially imposed ignorant slash mis's

2018
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: information on black history. This goes beyond the US. The

2019
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 1: German government recently officially apologized and pledged reparations for genocidal

2020
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: climes against the Namibian tribes in Africa. To put this

2021
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:49,000
Speaker 1: into context, they using Namibia as a dry run for

2022
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: what they eventually did to the Jews. Mass grades were

2023
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 1: uncovered decades ago. Survivors and the descendants have testified to

2024
01:37:55,640 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: the UN, but the financial muscle of Germany had today

2025
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: kept the issue out of textbooks, print and electronic media.

2026
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 2: Damn. Most formal colonial.

2027
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 1: Powers in the Africa pledge to cover to cover early

2028
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 1: stage education i e. They supply textbooks, teacher teacher training

2029
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: exchange programs is a form of compensation for shit they

2030
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: did and are still doing. While African schools do benefit

2031
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: from the science textbooks, the history books deliberately whitewashed acts

2032
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:28,680
Speaker 1: of colonial genocidem So to make the long story short, Yes,

2033
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: the Black Trauma TV series and movies are filling the gap,

2034
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 1: not only through storytelling, but also indirectly through the think

2035
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,840
Speaker 1: pieces online debates they spawned, which are informative From a

2036
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: personal perspective, I can't stand black trauma on TV. I

2037
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: watched Watchmen hashtag greatest TV series ever hashtag Reaging the

2038
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 1: King to Queen because it's black trauma is overwhelming with

2039
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,640
Speaker 1: over interwoven with hope, while on the other hand, I

2040
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: found them quite depressing and couldn't finish it. Hell, I'm

2041
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 1: into true trim documentaries like Snapped, et cetera, but can

2042
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,919
Speaker 1: watch episodes feature can't watch episodes feature in black victims.

2043
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 1: Maybe my subconscious tells me that these people's stories are

2044
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: shaped by racism and deprivation hits. A thirty minute episode

2045
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 1: cannot provide full context on why this woman killed her husband.

2046
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 2: Look, we all bring what we bring to the table.

2047
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:18,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just saying. Maybe this woman on Snap probably

2048
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: a snap due to office cares, past aggressive bs, and

2049
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: being unjustly denied a bank loan in addition to her

2050
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 1: nigga cheating.

2051
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 4: Come on, in microL aggression, she finally had had enough.

2052
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: Well, boy, do I have a show for you for

2053
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: my man?

2054
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 3: Yes, for my man.

2055
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: If you want to watch black women criminals get every

2056
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt for my man.

2057
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 2: You gotta watch for my man.

2058
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: It don't matter how heinous it come on TV one,

2059
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:47,599
Speaker 1: It don't matter how heinous the crime was. Like, they

2060
01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: have covered some horrenders shit, and in every situation they

2061
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,720
Speaker 1: be like, but if you think about it like this,

2062
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe the black woman wasn't that bad. Yes, it's like, wait,

2063
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 1: you just said her and her boyfriend went on a

2064
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: murder spree. Yes, but she was in love. You see

2065
01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and love does strange things to people.

2066
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, sound pretty bad, right, but

2067
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: you have to understand she had dropped out of high school,

2068
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: so you see what I'm saying.

2069
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got to murder twelve people.

2070
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 3: You gonna know this is not this should work. But

2071
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 3: I like y'all giving a benefit of the doubt.

2072
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: And guess what, y'all once they went to prison, he

2073
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 1: never wrote her back.

2074
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know a lot of them in with they

2075
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 3: never them niggas never spoke to each other. Again, that's

2076
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 3: not most of me.

2077
01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: Every nine damn. You might have one where they keep

2078
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 4: in touch.

2079
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 3: But boy, when everything with the shit hit the fan,

2080
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,559
Speaker 3: everybody's like, ihn, that's.

2081
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: The one I'm just saying, however, them and other flavors

2082
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 1: of black trauma genre have value, deserved to exist, and

2083
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 1: in a few years, undoing centuries of Republican led whitewashingt

2084
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 1: this history. As you've both stayed on the podcast, it's

2085
01:40:57,680 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: the election of Joe and Kamala. The trash on the

2086
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: have been desperately looking for a cause to champion, from

2087
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:06,759
Speaker 1: the trans involvement in sports to Doctor Seuss, but finally,

2088
01:41:06,800 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 1: with the war on critical race theory, they have found

2089
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: a fight worth waging.

2090
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: The real forgotten people read.

2091
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Niggas, finally have a voice, a genuine grievance, and the

2092
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: means to communicate. The races on the right are genuinely terrified,

2093
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: and that's a good thing. Yeah, Like I said, man,

2094
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: I could not emphasize more to people that.

2095
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 2: This stuff is.

2096
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:38,559
Speaker 1: Worthwhile and our uncomfortableness with it should not supersede the

2097
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: fact that to the point where it serves white supremacy

2098
01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: for the shit not to exist.

2099
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about it.

2100
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,200
Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion, you know, And I think that's like,

2101
01:41:47,320 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: ultimately white people will love nothing more than us being

2102
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: like I don't want no slave movies, and I'm tired

2103
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 1: of this shit because they definitely ain't giving us none

2104
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: in these book textbooks. They definitely ain't trying to give

2105
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: us none of these TV and movies, stories and shit,

2106
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 1: Like it's funny how people become incensed that stuff like

2107
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 1: there were happy slaves on the plantation and everybody gets mad.

2108
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: But then when someone says, I would like to make

2109
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:13,799
Speaker 1: a show that shows what the reality is the slavery,

2110
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 1: get mad at them too, like right the head trip.

2111
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:21,679
Speaker 3: And also the thing is, it's funny how each side

2112
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 3: is waiting for another generation to die off, because you

2113
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 3: have a lot of black people to say, well, we

2114
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 3: get the old white people out, they'll die off, but

2115
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:34,799
Speaker 3: they actually take an ingrain and put you know, generation

2116
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:37,600
Speaker 3: of generation, just like they're waiting for the niggas to

2117
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 3: get to the point where they was like, well, if

2118
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: the old people die out, did actually experience slavery and

2119
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 3: then their children die out eventually, you know, we'll we'll

2120
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 3: get to the group of the niggas that don't give

2121
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 3: a damn. But what they fail to realize we do

2122
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 3: the same thing to our children sometimes be it to

2123
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 3: a detriment. We'll like Nigga never forgets Slavery is real,

2124
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,800
Speaker 3: you know. Don't forget like racism is real. You know.

2125
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 3: So each side is waiting for a generation to die,

2126
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 3: but it's not happening. So as long as each generation

2127
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 3: is passing down whatever side they're on, you're gonna continue

2128
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 3: to have this battle.

2129
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I think about Tusa. Everyone's talking about Tulsa.

2130
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 1: There were like five or six projects on it just

2131
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: last week because it was one hundredth year anniversary of

2132
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 1: the Tulsa massacre, And I was like, if it wasn't

2133
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,920
Speaker 1: for Watchmen two years ago, people have been trying to

2134
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: get some of these projects made for the years. They

2135
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 1: only got greenlit because a white man thought putting ten

2136
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 1: minutes of Tulsa at the beginning of his superhero comic

2137
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,040
Speaker 1: book TV show would be a good idea. That's the

2138
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: only reason we got all this. And some of those

2139
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 1: people that some of the people that survived Tulsa still

2140
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: alive to this day, which means that some of the

2141
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 1: people that did it, or some of the children of

2142
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 1: the people that did it are still to this day.

2143
01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 2: This was not a long time ago.

2144
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 1: And if you want me to say we can't tell

2145
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: these stories or I don't approve of it, or you

2146
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 1: need to tell it and find a way to make

2147
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 1: me feel good about it, or whatever. I don't know

2148
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: what to tell you, but no, and you're not gonna

2149
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 1: take away my creative license to tell it how I

2150
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: want to tell it. The story's been told five or

2151
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: six different ways. Why can't I tell Why can't mine

2152
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: be hard yours be sci fi? Yours be fantasy, yours

2153
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 1: be a documentary.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we do all of them?

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01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 4: Yes?

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01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 3: And my pushback to that is, we get holocausts consistently,

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Speaker 3: we get World War Two consistently, like we get concentration

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Speaker 3: camps consistently, Like, but where are your complaints of another Holocaust?

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01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 3: Where are your complaints about another World War two movie?

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01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 4: We don't get the complaints.

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01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 3: It's only when it comes to our shit and us

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01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 3: telling our stories about how we want to do it,

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01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 3: all of a sudden the fucking complaints come out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about how What's a.

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Speaker 1: Man in the Hot Castle is on Amazon. I don't

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01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: know if it's done yet or it's still going, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't like enough reimagining the Holocaust thing Operation Overlord. I

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01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 1: think it was the name of a movie I went

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01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:32,280
Speaker 1: to see really good movie, really fun based in the Holocaust,

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01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like in based in World

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01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: War two or whatever the fuck? Like that is just

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01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: a thing that we've accepted as normal and supposedly has

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01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 1: no effect on anybody's trauma. And nobody should not watch

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01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: these things. And then yet whenever some black shit come out,

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01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: which is not even the majority of black projects, it'd

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Speaker 1: be like one or two projects.

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01:45:52,240 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 2: A year normally, motherfuckers be like, why we got to

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01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: do this? Like I think we've been taught to be.

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01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 1: Ashamed of the shit. Finally, taking to talking of the right,

2181
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,160
Speaker 1: I can't help but feel sorry for the coons.

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01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,160
Speaker 2: Republicans aren't giving them anything to work with.

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01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,720
Speaker 1: Trump and his personality, of his cold of personality was

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01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: a personality of cult. That's a good way to put it.

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01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: Was a coon's wet dream. A coon could simply say

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01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: Trump is.

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01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Our savior, with no specifics.

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01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Where red Hat shuck and Jove and the lights views, retweets,

2189
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: YouTube subscriptions and patreons lights lights up like a Christmas tree.

2190
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 2: Now there's really no angle.

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01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: To coon from. The new faces on the right is

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01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: MTG and the pedophile gates and the rag tag militia groups,

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01:46:36,439 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: but unlike Trump, they don't even pretend to like niggas. Hell,

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01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: they recently launched an American flag pack with racial purity

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01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: and other nauseaesque keywords in the agenda statements. Where do

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01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: poor Dimin and silk fit into this? That's for the Yeah,

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01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: I know, what are they even doing now? Wonder?

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01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 2: That's for the transports controversy.

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01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:57,759
Speaker 1: These niggas hate bron Sereno, soccer, Rappido and other sports

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01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: figures that have no stake in sports. Obvious with the

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01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: opening voter suppression tactics that the GOP have given up

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01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 1: on black people.

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01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 2: What's a coon to do?

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01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, true.

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01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 4: That's the word.

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01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 3: What's the coon to do?

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01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to make something happen with Kwame Brown.

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 1: I've seen Jason whit Locke promoting them. KAMEI Brown's defending

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01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: Candice Owns. But I don't know if that could that's sustainable.

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01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: Thanks for the good work you do on your podcast

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01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 1: or other podcasts. Grace with your presence, regards Tennis See,

2212
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Desil right, says hi Rod and Karen.

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01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 1: I'm a fifty four year old black woman who really

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01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:36,479
Speaker 1: enjoys being by today's standard dressed up. It lists my

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01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: mood and as an introvert, fashion is away for me

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01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: to express myself without actually talking to people. That being said,

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01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,360
Speaker 1: I wish Monique would have aimed her rant at not

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01:47:44,439 --> 01:47:46,760
Speaker 1: a younger black women, but at the airports themselves.

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01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 2: The lighting is bad, they are usually too cold.

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01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: You have your clothes wrinkled by sitting for hours before

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01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: your flight, and you have to undress jackets, belt, shoes,

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01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 1: etcetera to go through the metal detector and that's without

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01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: any until the airline provide a nicer mad Men style

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01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:07,599
Speaker 1: travel experience. I can't blame everyone for saying their hair,

2225
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: oh sorry, saving their hair and outfits for when they

2226
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:14,599
Speaker 1: go get to where they're going. Thanks for another great show, Desiree.

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Speaker 3: Thanks yeah, and Desiree. The thing is, you can get

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01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,280
Speaker 3: that experience. They just charge you. You have to pay

2229
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,519
Speaker 3: for pre you know, tess say pre check in and

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01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 3: global check in.

2231
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 4: You can get it where you.

2232
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 3: Can bypass all that bullshit as far as like you know,

2233
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 3: taking off your belt and taking off hues. You know.

2234
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 3: But the thing is is charged, and I'm privileged enough

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01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 3: what I paid for it. I was like fuck that.

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01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 3: Roger will tell you whenever we go about eight times

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01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 3: out of ten, it will always flag for me, you know,

2238
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 3: let you know, my pants and my pants putting up

2239
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,760
Speaker 3: my ass that it would puff. And they were like we,

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Speaker 3: you know, we we we got to see what you

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01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 3: got up your cross. So I started wearing yoga pants.

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01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 3: I don't care what the weather is. I put on

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01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 3: the tightest ass yoga pants I got with with socks.

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01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 3: I mean, me and me and Beckett be looking to

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01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 3: goddamn saying because I was like, I'm tired of y'all

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01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 3: past me down because your shit go off?

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01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 2: Yup? All right, go ahead? What were you saying?

2248
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:07,839
Speaker 4: Like I was saying?

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01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 3: For me, it's easier to do the pre chicken. The

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01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 3: TSA pre chicken say they have two types. They have

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01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 3: one for United States to have another one for outside

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01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 3: of the United States. And so for the one for

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01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,840
Speaker 3: outside of the United States, that's when you traveling and

2254
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 3: things like that, and so it almost like it speeds

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01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 3: up the process for you traveling internationally. And for me

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01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:35,040
Speaker 3: it's worth every time because like I said before, I

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01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:39,719
Speaker 3: got tired of constantly being flagged and constantly being stopped.

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01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 3: And I remember one time.

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01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:41,879
Speaker 4: It was hilarious.

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01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,040
Speaker 3: One time it was a black lady and she looked

2261
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 3: at my hair and she was like, babe, man' nothing wrong.

2262
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 3: I said, I know, I know, and she just let

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01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:49,680
Speaker 3: me pass like she didn't even rub her fingers through

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01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 3: my hair, none of that bullshit. And so I was like,

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01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 3: that's when I decided me and Becky was gonna dress

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 3: the same. That's what it's called.

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01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 4: It's called global entry.

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01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 3: And so for me, and when it comes to it,

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01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't mind people wearing these things because a lot

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01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:08,519
Speaker 3: of people go it's like you said, it's cold, it's dusty.

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01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 3: You know, most airports, you know, everybody hustling, bustling, So

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01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 3: people don't like, why am I gonna dress up for

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01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 3: nobody to give a fuck about what I got on

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01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:17,519
Speaker 3: in the first place?

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01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:18,280
Speaker 2: Yep.

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01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, And I think that would have been

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01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,800
Speaker 1: a more productive area for money to talk about. Was

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01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: just that the airport isn't really conducive to all that

2279
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 1: shit in the first place.

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01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't like I yeah, I just

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01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:37,880
Speaker 1: some days I just like you had to not This

2283
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,880
Speaker 1: is gonna cause a lot of controversy and I don't

2284
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 1: know if you think this is worth it, but the

2285
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: handful of people that are like, thank you for saying this,

2286
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's worth it to you. But

2287
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 1: it just seems like the Internet is a bad place

2288
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:55,040
Speaker 1: to say that. And then also the places where you

2289
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 1: can say that and be received in the good spirit

2290
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: that you intend it are gonna be placed where you

2291
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: have personal relationships with people. It's not gonna be a

2292
01:51:03,320 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 1: bunch of strangers.

2293
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 3: I agree.

2294
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,160
Speaker 1: Like, if you wouldn't just walk into a room and

2295
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 1: say that shit to everybody, then I probably wouldn't say

2296
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,760
Speaker 1: that shit on Instagram. But maybe she.

2297
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,479
Speaker 2: Would walk into a room and say that. I don't know.

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01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: She said that day when she was traveling, she saw

2299
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,640
Speaker 1: too many women to tap on the shoulder, so it

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01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: seemed like she wasn't actually living her wraps on that right.

2301
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: Uh piccolo, I said, apodoi, apologies, Hey Rody Karen Aaron

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01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 1: here again, quick, real quick, because I got to get

2303
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 1: ready to help my aunt move in a bit. Didn't

2304
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: mean to come off as an SNL obsessed last week.

2305
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,679
Speaker 2: I just thought you watched or were a fan.

2306
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: Also, I think my other gmail, my other email got

2307
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: lost in the sauce last week. You read the follow

2308
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: up but not the one before, so resenting If that's cool,

2309
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: if you could read it this week, please just regard

2310
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 1: his email. Here was my original email and the follow

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01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: up you did read. Love you both.

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01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:59,040
Speaker 2: Thanks sub Riding, Karen. I'm terrible. I always forget to

2313
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,519
Speaker 2: tell you. I am A name is Aaron.

2314
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:02,760
Speaker 1: Been listening to y'all since the early does with the

2315
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: full local show. Said shame we didn't get that.

2316
01:52:05,560 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 2: Full crossover for Chris's final show.

2317
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:08,759
Speaker 1: But that's life.

2318
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 2: Sarah J interviews when.

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01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Y'all had background music, which I sometimes miss because y'all

2320
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 1: put me on some jams and artists and fans would

2321
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:18,519
Speaker 1: call in shout out to chill her rival in that

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01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 1: country ass white dude. I forget the latitude names, uh

2323
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:29,760
Speaker 1: Toya and uh forget the white dude's name, but he was.

2324
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:33,519
Speaker 1: It was so funny. Yeah, oh no, no, the country

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01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: ass white dude.

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01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 2: That's not owing.

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01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:36,879
Speaker 3: He's doing some Canada.

2328
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah they're talking about the one he used to call

2329
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 2: in and talk Steve.

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01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 4: It was like Steve something like that.

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01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Yes, so so a while, just for the background email occasionally,

2332
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: but I wanted to get to thank and congratulate you both.

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01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,479
Speaker 1: Let on the congrats, but I'm so proud of y'all

2334
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,280
Speaker 1: for the growth and getting that Spotify recognition, Big Moves,

2335
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: and y'all both some motherfucking motivators.

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01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: Real talk.

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01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: It may sound odd and perhaps some vicarious type thing,

2338
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: but y'all like family in my headspace, and I've been

2339
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: living so long, been listening so long. I don't know

2340
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:09,440
Speaker 1: how y'all do it, especially the long this long y'all dedicated.

2341
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,840
Speaker 1: I love, admire, respect y'all for that. Also wanted to

2342
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: thank y'all from the bottom of my heart. You both,

2343
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: along with some other podcasts, have been instrumental in my

2344
01:53:16,760 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 1: mental health journey. I've been in a dark state of

2345
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: mind due to trauma for over ten years, and through

2346
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,080
Speaker 1: a lot of it, your podcasts and others not only

2347
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:26,960
Speaker 1: help for formulate a lot of my thought process and

2348
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: own ideologies, but definitely helped keeping me keeping me from

2349
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:34,759
Speaker 1: going insane. Like so, it ain't just me always refreshing

2350
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 1: to know my black asses to completely lose my mind.

2351
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 1: But just as you've grown, I've grown with you.

2352
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:40,240
Speaker 2: Thank you for that.

2353
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for keeping me informed and making great quality content.

2354
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like y'all now that I've grown Now,

2355
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm grown up, now that I'm done sounding like a

2356
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 1: stand at the the point of this email, have y'all

2357
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 1: seen red this shit? And it's a link court documents

2358
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Alabama man arrested at the Capitol ride has military time

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: I stopped meeting with Ted Cruz. Uh No, I mean

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01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 1: I haven't read that one yet.

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01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably covered this on the show by the.

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01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: Time you read this. And apologies if you already received this.

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: I know you get your email to tack to death

2364
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: with articles and stuff, but what the fuck the highlights

2365
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 1: for me? Maybe that's why the GOP and certain members

2366
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: are fighting investigations so hard and want to move on

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Speaker 1: slash and forget not only complicit, but maybe some were

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01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: actually involved in the Planet the execution.

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Speaker 2: Just the thought. I love the logic.

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01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 1: He has no criminal record even though he's participating in

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01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 1: criminal shit. Therefore, Okay, a motherfucker crossbow in the trunk?

2372
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 1: What in the Daryl walking dead bullshit?

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01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 2: Is that?

2374
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 1: What? Right?

2375
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 2: Don't also think about the weapons.

2376
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Some of them chose the bear spray, the tasers, crossbow.

2377
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 1: They clearly were trying to avoid certain legal implications of

2378
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: having guns in there and shit. So it's something so

2379
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 1: coordinated and shout out to the my ex wife. I'm

2380
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna guess for a good reason and the family they

2381
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 1: like that motherfucker ain't standing here. Keep that motherfucker with

2382
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 1: he at anyway, Starve for the long email.

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01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 2: I love you guys. Follow up? You did read help it?

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay?

2385
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 3: Another one we read? Yeah?

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01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 1: Oh so that the one we said bringing up her

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01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 1: service record. That was a follow up to the other.

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01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 3: Right, so you read the second email. You didn't get

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01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 3: the first one yet. My bad, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Uh let's see uh Ti guest wright sin Hey, Rod

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01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: and Karen love you.

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01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: Both wanted to send my love from Australia.

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01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Hey, I love listening to you when I'm cooking, clean

2394
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 1: and driving as my you brighten my day. Loved your

2395
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: discussion about mental health this week largely centered around now

2396
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,680
Speaker 1: on Yosaka, but also spoke about so many other.

2397
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: Important related topics.

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01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm a therapist and when I heard her story, the

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01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 1: first thing that caught my attention was her history of

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01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: depression and the impact on her ability to engage in

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01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:54,560
Speaker 1: her work. I was deeply concerned that she has had

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01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 1: long bowns of depression since twenty eighteen. She also mentioned

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01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 1: that while working her social anxiety is often triggered due

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01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:03,680
Speaker 1: to public nature obligations of tennis, I eat, playing in

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01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 1: front of a crowd, and doing interviews. I believe it

2406
01:56:06,560 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 1: was Karen who mentioned that everyone functions differently through experiences

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01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: with their mental health. I have so many clients who

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01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: we would label as high function and insertin mental illness,

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01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: such as a high functioning depression, high function anxiety, high

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01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: functioning BPD, etc. We have certain assumptions of social expectations

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01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 1: that people who experience mental illness can't get out of bed.

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01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 1: They are productive or high achieving. People can live with depression, anxiety, PTSD, etcetera,

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01:56:32,080 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: but be identified as functioning reasonably well in certain different

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01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: aspects of their lives.

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01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:56:37,680 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I when I was in therapy, that was one

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01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: of the things that you know, she said to me,

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01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know you have anxiety. I was like, no,

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01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 1: Like that's not I don't know because of what I

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01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: think of and when I hear about anxiety, thinking of

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01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: that crippling anxiety, panic attacks, things of this nature. And

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01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: she started like pointing certain things out and I'm like, fuck, okay,

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01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe what I've been taught, you know, the

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01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 1: movie and TV versions of this is.

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01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 2: Just not that's not necessarily the norm.

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01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: That's just how it's portrayed, right, And so I associated

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01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: with this other stuff.

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01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 2: And the same thing for depression, Like depression for.

2429
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: People is can't get out of here crying, suicidal blah

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01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:32,200
Speaker 1: blah blah. And it could be that you can go

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01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: play tennis and be excellent and still be dealing with depression. Yes,

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01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,160
Speaker 1: it's just hard for people to understand that. For example,

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01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: someone who is high functioning when anxiety means their experience

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: with anxiety propels them forward, rather than leaving them frozen

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01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: in fear, which might be the experience of a majority

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01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: of people. So on the surface, they appear successful, put together, calm,

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01:57:51,320 --> 01:57:52,960
Speaker 1: and they may excel in work or have a lot

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01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: of life accomplishments. They might be the one who's in

2439
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: the senior position juggling children in work, or they might

2440
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 1: win a slam.

2441
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean this anxiety isn't there.

2442
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 1: It's just that their anxiety might manifest different and in

2443
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:09,200
Speaker 1: turn looks different on them. We the public place our

2444
01:58:09,240 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: own expectations, hopes, or liability all to this person and

2445
01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 1: make our own assessments of what they're going through. Regardless,

2446
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: this doesn't help the person because we're not listening. We're

2447
01:58:18,920 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 1: focusing on ourselves instead of their lived experience. Anyways, my

2448
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:24,560
Speaker 1: apologies for the length of this. I truly appreciated your conversation.

2449
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,839
Speaker 1: It was afreshion to listen to someone focused on Naomi

2450
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: and her will well being.

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01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 2: I hope you both take care of yourselves. Love TIG guests.

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01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:32,320
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 2: That's nice.

2454
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes, like I said, we cover this stuff.

2455
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I listen to a lot of other podcasts, and I

2456
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: know we cover some of this stuff differently, and I

2457
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:45,040
Speaker 1: know there's a bit of you know, there's some good

2458
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: stuff about it, because it's like people might listen to

2459
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: us and go oh, I kind of thought of it

2460
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: that way. But it's some bad stuff too, you know.

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01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: I see the like some of the comments that's kind

2462
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,720
Speaker 1: of like pejorative or kind of dismissive or like, you know,

2463
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 1: we should have just hit the ground, and it's been

2464
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: like we team, they only over here. Fuck you if

2465
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 1: you ain't got nothing to say, like and it's like, nah,

2466
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 1: I would like to talk about this deeper.

2467
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 5: Than that.

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01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 1: And I would also like to point out that if

2469
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: you're really team somebody's team, hey, what do you need

2470
01:59:14,120 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 1: to do to feel to feel more balanced? And how

2471
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 1: do we because that does because me putting you on

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01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: a T shirt help that or not.

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01:59:24,320 --> 01:59:27,080
Speaker 2: It's not something I think most people consider, you know.

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01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 2: It's surface level shit is.

2475
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Just very much the it's the uh commerce of our

2476
01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: society right now. Surface level shit, you know. And it's

2477
01:59:39,760 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: something I think about a lot. Man, I just think

2478
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: about how so many people. It just depends on the

2479
01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: frame and conflict is not abuse. It is a great

2480
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: book because it really just puts in the in the

2481
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: in your head, like, man, there's a way to frame

2482
01:59:52,880 --> 01:59:58,080
Speaker 1: terrible behavior as something that you have to support, and

2483
01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 1: there's also a way.

2484
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 2: To to be right.

2485
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: But you didn't get to the story first, or you

2486
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 1: did some parts wrong and some parts right. And it's

2487
02:00:07,120 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: just like it all depends on people's perspectives and your

2488
02:00:10,280 --> 02:00:16,040
Speaker 1: ability to tell a story, you know, but the awareness

2489
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: to be able to say that, hey, just because somebody

2490
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: went on Twitter and said my therapist is a hater,

2491
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I need to tell them go get a

2492
02:00:24,840 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: new therapist. I don't know what the fuck happened? I

2493
02:00:29,200 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 1: only know what you are telling me, right. Your therapists

2494
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: can be treating me for a bunch of shit, and

2495
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 1: people only normally show their best parts on social media,

2496
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 1: not their worst, so you never really know what the

2497
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:41,920
Speaker 1: whole story is.

2498
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 2: And it's okay to be like, all right, well, good luck.

2499
02:00:46,480 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't need to be I wasn't in the office

2500
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,320
Speaker 1: with you and your therapist, So whatever you need to

2501
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: do and y'all need to work out, good for y'all.

2502
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you they're a hater and then

2503
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:01,040
Speaker 1: find out later like, oh, that person was really abusive

2504
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:04,400
Speaker 1: or some shit, and part of that was me just going, well,

2505
02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't cost anything to retweet them, you know, doesn't

2506
02:01:07,920 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 1: take no time to say, yes, I'm not talking to

2507
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:13,160
Speaker 1: my mom no more because fuck that bitch. Yeah, girl,

2508
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:16,040
Speaker 1: ticket don't you don't have the family. Ain't all family,

2509
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Retweet platitude, platitude, platitude, And

2510
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: then later you find out like, you know, they stole

2511
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:24,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of money from their parents or some shit,

2512
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:27,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I mean, yeah, that was fucked up.

2513
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:31,000
Speaker 1: That's not I don't that bad like you didn't tell

2514
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 1: me this part, you know? Anyway, last one in general,

2515
02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 1: COVID vaccine hesitancy is from a girl Mary who says,

2516
02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 1: high ride and care. What a week full of thought

2517
02:01:39,680 --> 02:01:42,560
Speaker 1: provoking shows that had some really great deep dives, including

2518
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 1: a unique perspective on NAMMI or so I can stepping

2519
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,920
Speaker 1: down from the French open anyway, I wanted to comment

2520
02:01:46,960 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 1: on the vaccine hesitancy.

2521
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 2: I'm not sure which episode it was that you.

2522
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 1: Had me thinking about how COVID will continue to disproportionately

2523
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 1: affect black people in this country because the significant portion

2524
02:01:56,120 --> 02:01:59,360
Speaker 1: is still not choosing to get vaccinated despite seeming availability.

2525
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 1: The pair of phrase and perhaps horribly misquote you, you said

2526
02:02:02,240 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: it may ultimately become known as a black disease where

2527
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 1: primarily black people would die, and that word. I had

2528
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 1: not thought of it that way because the people who

2529
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:13,560
Speaker 1: I saw not getting vaccinated were Christians, but they're also

2530
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 1: black and brown, and their religion wasn't the reason they

2531
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 1: weren't getting vaccinated. They're on that doctor seb and we're

2532
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:23,600
Speaker 1: anti vacs. Before COVID, they thought eating well and exercise

2533
02:02:23,680 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 1: protect them from everything.

2534
02:02:25,080 --> 02:02:28,200
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a vegan runner who hasn't had anything.

2535
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,640
Speaker 1: To drink in three decades. If anyone should be immune

2536
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,200
Speaker 1: from this thing, it would be me. But do you

2537
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,680
Speaker 1: know I was about to lie just to get that

2538
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:38,320
Speaker 1: vaccine ahead of time, because that's how scared I am.

2539
02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 2: In this thing.

2540
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Sheesh, Yeah, yeah, I think yeah, but yeah, even if

2541
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:46,480
Speaker 1: we look at it from a religious standpoint, and I

2542
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 1: think this is what people get lost in that sauce

2543
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:50,720
Speaker 1: on this, Like we think of black people and you

2544
02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:56,400
Speaker 1: think politics, and you think liberal or progressive, when it's

2545
02:02:56,440 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 1: actually black people don't want to deal with the racist

2546
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:05,560
Speaker 1: from Republicans very conservative outside of that, you.

2547
02:03:05,560 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.

2548
02:03:06,040 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Are so we are very religious people, especially down here

2549
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 1: in the South. We are very obviously wary of the

2550
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 1: government for legitimate reasons, and even for legitimate reasons, we

2551
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: could be prone to having this pandemic affect us for

2552
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:29,520
Speaker 1: a longer period of time. And I think what I'm

2553
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:32,320
Speaker 1: trying to tell people is like legitimate or not legitimate

2554
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 1: won't matter to coronavirus conaus care. It's just you took

2555
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 1: the vaccine, you didn't, right, you wore a mask or

2556
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:44,840
Speaker 1: you didn't. It doesn't say Tuskegee experiments. Okay, I get

2557
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: why eure upset. I'm not gonna affect you like that's

2558
02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:49,720
Speaker 1: just so it's like.

2559
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm not I would never be mean.

2560
02:03:51,840 --> 02:03:53,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mean to people about it. But

2561
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm very much concerned because it's like because mostly because

2562
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't think the mean thing is gonna work.

2563
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,840
Speaker 2: That's that's all, you know me.

2564
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm not beyond being mean, but I just don't think

2565
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:07,200
Speaker 1: that will work. So now I'm like, what will work?

2566
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Will the barbershop tour work? Then do the barber shop

2567
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 1: to it giving away free lottery tickets? If that works,

2568
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:16,720
Speaker 1: Let's do that, whatever it takes, because I'm very nervous

2569
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 1: that if our numbers stay where they are, even as

2570
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:22,400
Speaker 1: other people's numbers go down, then it's just gonna be

2571
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 1: Black people in major areas just have COVID all the time, right, And.

2572
02:04:28,320 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you know things like

2573
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:33,240
Speaker 3: that matter, and I'm like, you, whatever it takes. I

2574
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,000
Speaker 3: was joking with your mom said, I wouldn't care if

2575
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,320
Speaker 3: they was like free tickets to the time, join the

2576
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:43,280
Speaker 3: Morning Show, cruise, whatever it takes to get that shot

2577
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:48,600
Speaker 3: in your arm. I don't care how quote unquote ghetto,

2578
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, cause people get to a point that niggas

2579
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 3: start judging. I don't care whatever it takes to get

2580
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Speaker 3: people to get this shot in their arms.

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Speaker 1: Because that's not even a high death rate. It's a

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Speaker 1: high communication rate, it's a high sickness rate, but it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not even a.

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Speaker 2: High death rate where it's like, man, fifty percent of black.

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Speaker 1: People die, you're talking like one or two percent is

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Speaker 1: higher than themong white people. But just the fact that

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Speaker 1: we will always have this with us, or have it

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Speaker 1: with us for a prolonged period of time, that is

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Speaker 1: nerve wracking when it does. And I hope, I just

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Speaker 1: hope that doesn't come to pass. But I'm not seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of evidence that that's that we're going to

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Speaker 1: be able to avoid that unless we step it up.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, obviously, you know, you love to

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Speaker 1: see that America in general stepping up, But I'm just

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02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: specifically worry about us. Anyway, back to the point, the

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Speaker 1: lack of black and brown people getting vaccinated isn't just

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Speaker 1: a US phenomenon. When looking at the global vaccination rates,

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Speaker 1: it's clear that the Southern Hemisphere and Asia, primarily black

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Speaker 1: and brown countries are lacking far behind the US, Canada

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Speaker 1: and Europe. And speaking to my situation specifically, I'm Filipino

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Speaker 1: and I haven't been able to see my dad, who

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Speaker 1: lives in the Philippines for the longest time. I can't

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02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 1: go there because the Philippines isn't safe. It's one of

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02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:05,800
Speaker 1: the longest lockdowns in the world. Do the in that

2605
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,640
Speaker 1: pandeling of their dictator president sound familiar? It should. He

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02:06:09,760 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 1: is a Trump ally anyway, Only five to per one

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Speaker 1: hundred people in the Philippines are vaccinated. Wow, oh, while

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Speaker 1: the world averages twenty six. The people are literally dying

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Speaker 1: for the vaccine. My dad is on the top group

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Speaker 1: to get vaccinated, eighty two years old and then the

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02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: privileged class. He couldn't get vaccinated until after me, and

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Speaker 1: even when he had to settle for an inferior vaccine

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02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: from China with less efvocacy, but he said it's better

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Speaker 1: than nothing. So when I hear people here in the

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Speaker 1: States choosing not to get vaccinated when many in the

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Speaker 1: world can't, I can't help but be fucking mad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And it's insulting because truth be told. Because

2618
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:51,160
Speaker 3: of the fucked up shit that Donald Trump did, and

2619
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:54,440
Speaker 3: the way he did fucking paperwork and the way he

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02:06:54,480 --> 02:07:00,000
Speaker 3: did his contracts. Initially it was designed where they couldn't

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Speaker 3: actually put these extra doses out to the rest of

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Speaker 3: the world. They finally get to the point where they

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Speaker 3: are shipping doses to other parts of the world, and

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Speaker 3: this is one reason why they're pushing for them to

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Speaker 3: fucking we don't give a damn about your patent.

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Speaker 4: You need to let this shit up and so other

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02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 4: places of the.

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Speaker 3: World can get the same formula y'all have, so people

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02:07:20,040 --> 02:07:23,120
Speaker 3: won't be getting something that's not as effective in other

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Speaker 3: parts of the world that can mass produce this. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing though, I think about is for the like

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Speaker 1: more liberal, like kind of wokesh social media people, that's

2633
02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,879
Speaker 1: like this thing they do or it's like virtual signaling

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02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 1: where it's a lot of like, uh, we need to

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Speaker 1: we are a first world country, we need to give

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Speaker 1: our vaccines away.

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Speaker 2: And it's like, Okay.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, if you're the president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, you are going to prioritize Americans first. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what part of you are, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what the fuck people say on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: Then just be mad about it.

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02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:01,920
Speaker 1: But you're gonna be mad and vaccinated. That's that's essentially like,

2644
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Speaker 1: because I'm not doing this job to look good.

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Speaker 2: This is just a priority.

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Speaker 1: It's like you put on the seat, you put on

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Speaker 1: the air mass first when the plane is having turbulence,

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Speaker 1: and then you put it on your children.

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Speaker 2: Right. I know it's patronizing, but that's just.

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Speaker 1: The way that that if you're the president of the

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Speaker 1: United States, it's all patronizing, you would think of it.

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Speaker 2: But beyond that you have Trump, who's a biggot and

2653
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Speaker 2: is a a.

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Speaker 1: Xenophobe, basically saying we want to keep all these good

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Speaker 1: vaccines for ourselves period. The ones that he wasn't really

2656
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,640
Speaker 1: giving a fuck about them being made, the ones when

2657
02:08:35,680 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 1: he talked down in the pandemic. It was just contrary

2658
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:40,920
Speaker 1: to everything that he was saying out of one end,

2659
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Speaker 1: which is this shit ain't gonna work, it ain't important,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: We already beat coronavirus.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, don't give anybody else this shit.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But then the worst part to me is we're now

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Speaker 1: at a point where a lot of places have surplus

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Speaker 1: is a vaccine, and they're gonna run out and by runout,

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Speaker 1: I mean spoiled, right, and other countries need it and

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Speaker 1: we're just that's the most American thing about us is

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Speaker 1: for us to be like yeah, but fuck it, I

2670
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Speaker 1: don't feel like it, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 1: other countries literally die from because the other countries that

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Speaker 1: she named, some of them, it is some hesitancy, but

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Speaker 1: a lot of it's just availability availability.

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Speaker 2: If they had it, they have higher numbers.

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Speaker 1: We don't even have enough. I mean we don't even

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Speaker 1: we have more than enough.

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Speaker 2: And motherfuckers won't take it.

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Speaker 3: Right, they turn that shit down. That's a smack in

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Speaker 3: the face and it's very insulting to people in other countries,

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Speaker 3: going I would love to have it, Like what can

2681
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Speaker 3: I do to get this? Or like the like the

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Speaker 3: person that did that, did Rodane, It was like, well

2683
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 3: that daddy was like, well I just take the less

2684
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Speaker 3: of one because at least it protected me from something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I think we'll continue to see vaccination rates between

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Speaker 1: different groups continue to increase.

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Speaker 2: The gap in other ways.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, cure it the good work, Mary, Yeah, I hope so,

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Speaker 1: I hope, I hope we find some way to fix this.

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Speaker 1: A help like I hope people start listening. Uh you know,

2692
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Speaker 1: maybe that some people that were hesitant, that they were

2693
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,959
Speaker 1: just waiting, maybe their deadlines will pass and they'll go, Okay,

2694
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because this ain't it, you

2695
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:15,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. All Right, that's it for today.

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Speaker 1: This is a long one, but I hope y'all appreciated it.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. No guest until Wednesday. I think

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Speaker 1: we have Brandon Collins on who will be doing his

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Speaker 1: June tenth Drunk Black History. So all right, until then,

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Speaker 1: I love you, I love you.

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Speaker 5: Wh