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Speaker 2: It's our two on this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan

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Speaker 2: baseball this afternoon and tonight. Checking the weather forecast in Detroit.

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Speaker 2: They had their game delayed yesterday, but it looks like

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Speaker 2: clear sailing in Detroit. Also Chicago, also New York and

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles. So it's three oh eight, five oh eight,

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Speaker 2: seven oh eight, nine oh eight Eastern time, your playoff baseball.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Judge carries the Yankees to a nine to six

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Speaker 2: win as they stave off elimination. The Mariners are up

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Speaker 2: to one in their series against the Tigers. Bengals acquired

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Speaker 2: Joe Flacco from the Browns. Still not sure why the

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Speaker 2: Browns would help out the Bengals in that situation, because

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Speaker 2: they did help out the Bengals, because you know, what

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Speaker 2: are the other Bengal options that they would have, Maybe

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, maybe a big swing for Kirk Cousins. Joe

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Speaker 2: Flacco is an upgrade, not a big upgrade at this

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Speaker 2: stage of his career, but still if you got a guy.

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Speaker 2: If you protect him, have him in the pocket, and

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Speaker 2: you have receivers, then Cincinnati certainly becomes more threatening, but

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Speaker 2: they have to be more threatening than they have been.

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Speaker 2: update our poll questions and Jimmy Rollins former MVP is

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Rollins borderline Hall of Famer. I didn't really look

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Speaker 2: at his numbers, and then Todd said, Jimmy Rollins's going

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Speaker 2: to join us. I knew he won an MVP and

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Speaker 2: a three time All Star. Don't know what else he

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Speaker 2: has as far as credentials, Yeah, PAULI.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got that three time All Star, one MVP,

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Speaker 3: he never finished top five, another MVP, a bunch of

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Speaker 3: goal gloves, very good playoff numbers. It feels like unlikely.

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Speaker 2: It was very good. Yeah, Okay, there was a time

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Speaker 2: before he was the guy. Short period of time, well

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Speaker 2: one year he asked the guy how many career hits

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Speaker 2: and fifty five. Okay, all right, I'd say you got

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Speaker 2: somebody's attention. I would think, I don't know what's the

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Speaker 2: best he's finished. Is he still on the ballot, the

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame ballot? Be curious about that. While you

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Speaker 2: look at that seat, would you give me the poll

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Speaker 2: results from the first hour and our poll question for

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Speaker 2: hour two?

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Speaker 4: Most BCW in sports? Well or just baseball? Judge Otani,

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Speaker 4: Riley Raley other Right now, Otani has about forty six

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Speaker 4: percent of that vote. Raleigh and Judge are splitting about

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Speaker 4: twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: And that's a bathroom can wait?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's bathroom can wait. We also have this one

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Speaker 4: from Marvin after Joe the Joe Flacco trade, What should

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Speaker 4: the realistic expectations of the Bengals be? That's a division title,

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Speaker 4: wild card, AFC Championship game or no playoffs?

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Speaker 2: Right now? No playoffs?

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Speaker 4: Has seventy three percent of that phone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna look at the glass half

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Speaker 2: full with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paulin twenty twenty five Hall of Fame voting, Jimmy

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Speaker 3: Rollins got seventy one votes. That's eighteen percent. He needs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have to have a certain number of

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Speaker 2: votes to stay on the ballot. Yes, is he staying

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Speaker 2: on the ballot checking, because that will be the key? Okay,

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Speaker 2: all right, we'll get to some phone calls here. Mentioned

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Speaker 2: the baseball last night, cal Raley homeward with the MS

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Speaker 2: in that series and hit a bomb. And this is

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Speaker 2: what it sounded like last night.

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Speaker 5: There's the Pits high flight ball deep left field, down

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Speaker 5: the left field line.

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Speaker 6: It is off the fair pole.

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Speaker 1: Hey now, hey, now.

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Speaker 7: Hey, now overever this game is fined, it's six sex.

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Speaker 2: Okay, some enthusiasm from our favorite Yankee broadcaster, Dave Simms.

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Speaker 6: Playing to the craft.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's playing to his crowd, his fans.

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Speaker 6: Yankee fans are tuning in.

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Speaker 5: They want to hear the excitement of the big home run.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Christ and Syracuse, Hi, Chris, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 8: Hey? Thanks Dan?

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Speaker 9: Hey, I wanted to mention a couple of things off

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Speaker 9: of quarterbacks making tackles. Yesterday, Paul mentioned that Cam Newton's

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Speaker 9: career was really affected by a tackle that he made

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Speaker 9: where he got injured. And I found that interesting that

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Speaker 9: and that won Super Bowl. That balls on the ground

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Speaker 9: and he wanted to have nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 9: And I know it's somewhat reactionary, but I think qbs

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Speaker 9: really need to pick their spots when they tackled like

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Speaker 9: Dak in the opening of this year against Philadelphia made

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Speaker 9: that great diving tackle that saved a touchdown and that

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Speaker 9: was a close game at the time, and if CD

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm okay. If you're going to make a swipe

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Speaker 2: tackle at somebody's foot like Dak did, I just don't

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Speaker 2: want you being like Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck became a

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Speaker 2: he'd be so angry that he wanted to make that tackle.

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Speaker 2: You can't. And Mahomes was trying to make, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of a swipe tackle, and he did alter the defender,

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Speaker 2: you know a little bit, but you go low in

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Speaker 2: that situation. But uh, you know, I have no problem

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Speaker 2: if my quarterback is I'm going to stay out of

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Speaker 2: the out of the fray, because the thing that I'm

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Speaker 2: worried about is not the tackle you're going to make,

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Speaker 2: it's every one of those defenders who get a free

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Speaker 2: shot at you because now you're not a quarterback, You're

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Speaker 2: just a regular player, and that's when you get blasted.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Row in Missouri? Hi Row, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey Dan? Dan Ass? How are you? I'm first time caller.

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Speaker 10: I'm really excited, longtime listener, four ten hundred and five pounds.

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Speaker 10: My question is, what do you think Jerry Jones fine

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Speaker 10: is going to be? You know, that's what he's going

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Speaker 10: to get, right.

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Speaker 2: Uh? Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars?

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Speaker 10: Okay, I missed that. I'm sorry. And then I had

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Speaker 10: one other question, not a question, but a comment.

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Speaker 2: You know, you were talking.

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Speaker 10: About the fist pumps. You go in for the fist pump,

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Speaker 10: the handshake. I'm a little girl, a little young woman whatever,

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Speaker 10: and I always go in for the hard handshake.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well I'll read that Row when I see you,

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Speaker 2: firm handshake. Thank you, Roe. I appreciate that. Yeah, Jared

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Speaker 2: Jones two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Jonathan Gannon got

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Speaker 2: Grant in Oregon. Hey Grant, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 11: Hey morning man, first time caller six' one two fifteen. Hey,

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Speaker 11: I just wanted to talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 11: that Jonathan Gannon situation. Obviously, I don't think it's right

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Speaker 11: for him to ever put his hands on any sort

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Speaker 11: little bit of the emotion in the business stress it's

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Speaker 11: put on, especially an NFL head coach, where those situations

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Speaker 11: like that matter, and his coaching life in the NFL

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Speaker 6: In the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. You know, I've seen some of

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Speaker 2: the great coaches in history. I mean whaty Hayes at

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Speaker 2: a defender who was at Charlie Bowman the interception Clemson

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Speaker 2: the field, Bill Cower's gone. I mean, these coaches they preach,

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Speaker 2: you know, having some kind of decorum, you know, keep

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Speaker 2: your cool, you know, don't. Bob Knight would do that

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Speaker 2: all the time. And he was the worst offender with it,

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Speaker 2: or the Cardinals finding him one hundred thousand dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he knew he did something wrong. That's why he the

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Speaker 2: day before apologized because it didn't look good. Yes time.

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Speaker 5: Now, is that supposed to be some kind of teaching moment?

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Speaker 6: I know, you lose.

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Speaker 5: You can't analyze it too much in the moment you

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Speaker 5: like that. That kind of plant's going to get me fired.

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Speaker 5: I got my family here, and people do stupid things

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Speaker 5: like that. You know how much of that sometimes You

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Speaker 5: never know in the back recesses of your mind. If

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Speaker 5: the season's not going well and it's more selfish, it's

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Speaker 5: only not a teaching moment to get in someone's face

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Speaker 5: like that and touch them. Well, they are less likely

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think that you're that Certainly he wasn't

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Speaker 2: a teaching moment for him. I mean it can be,

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Speaker 2: but you know, you have to have your act together.

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Speaker 2: And plus he's coaching for the Cardinals. He might not

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Speaker 2: be coaching for the Cardinals next year, and every one

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Speaker 2: of these games they have that game, there's no way

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Speaker 2: it and he knows he's coaching for his job. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 2: I disagree a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a I liked Jonathan Gannon going over

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Speaker 3: to yell at his player. This guy purposely dropped the

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Speaker 3: I'm fine with Jonathan Gannon airing him out in person,

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Speaker 3: to the point where he put his hands on him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Having been a person who's been yelled at, I

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Speaker 2: mean it's embarrassing because everybody's watching. I was sent to

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Speaker 2: the showers in the first half of a basketball game

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Speaker 2: when I was in high school because we were killing

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the coach says, Hey, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: put in this second string, and I think I said why,

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Speaker 2: and then my coach told me to shower, So I

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Speaker 2: had to walk. I had to walk of shame in

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Speaker 2: the first half. So I made it seem like my

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Speaker 2: And then I'm down in the locker room at halftime

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Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, God, this is embarrassing. And so I

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Speaker 2: he embarrassed me. But it taught me a lesson. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was a great moment of learning, even though I

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Speaker 2: didn't learn anything until later when I analyzed it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulin, so you guys were up big, You were

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Speaker 3: a starter and he just was rotating in the backups

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Speaker 3: because it was a blowout and you want him more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he was very judicial when it

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm there, I'm killing King's mill their arrival, I'm

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Speaker 2: want to put up some big numbers. My dad flown

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Speaker 2: cross country and I get there, I think he sits

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Speaker 2: up getting pulled for the game. Yes time.

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Speaker 5: Why is saying why that disrespectful? Is that just a

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Speaker 5: different era that you know some people can't relate to

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Speaker 6: championships and all sorts of other things. So the book

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Speaker 6: sort of has two separate areas for debate, which is,

436
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Speaker 6: did you agree with the people that we chose to

437
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Speaker 6: be the Mount Rushmoores of literally every team?

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Speaker 16: And then do you agree with the way that we

439
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Speaker 16: ranked them?

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Speaker 6: And whether you agree or disagree. Hopefully it'll be fun

441
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Speaker 6: to read. And what I like the most about it

442
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Speaker 6: because I Dan grew up reading a ton of sports

443
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Speaker 6: history books.

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Speaker 16: I read a lot about sports history.

445
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Speaker 6: And I feel like that's sort of a lost art,

446
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Speaker 6: if indeed that is an art.

447
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Speaker 16: Not enough of that going on.

448
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Speaker 6: So there's a ton of sports history and it there's

449
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Speaker 6: a ton. With his research, there's a ton.

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Speaker 2: You will learn a.

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Speaker 6: Ton about athletes you may not know a whole lot

452
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Speaker 6: about because some of them are contemporary, but some of

453
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Speaker 6: them are played decades and in some cases even a

454
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Speaker 6: century ago. So hopefully, whether you agree or disagree, you'll

455
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Speaker 6: learn some stuff about some of the great athletes of

456
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Speaker 6: all time.

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Speaker 2: What's the sports debate that leaves you frustrated?

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean the contemporary ones, like the what my

459
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Speaker 6: mind goes to when you ask me that question, are

460
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Speaker 6: what are the go tos that those of us who

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Speaker 6: did sports talk that depended on phone calls, which is

462
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Speaker 6: what I used to do before I came to ESPN.

463
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Speaker 6: I started out and you were working your way up,

464
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Speaker 6: like as a TV guy CNN and ESPN and Sports

465
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Speaker 6: Center and everything.

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Speaker 16: I came a different route.

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Speaker 6: I came from sort of the traditional you call this

468
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Speaker 6: number right now, and let's have this argument. So I

469
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Speaker 6: go back to the ones that were just like on

470
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Speaker 6: a slow day, you just throw this question out and

471
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Speaker 6: they would do your show for you. So the big

472
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Speaker 6: one in the nineties was does Pete belonging in the

473
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Speaker 6: Hall of Fame or not? So I don't know if

474
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Speaker 6: it frustrates me, but it's it's a question that people

475
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Speaker 6: are so divided on the people on either side of

476
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Speaker 6: it feel so strongly and passionately about their respective sides.

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Speaker 16: And this of course was long before Pete died.

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Speaker 6: So that it was a really good, fun, easy debate

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Speaker 6: to throw out there. The Michael versus Lebron thing, now,

480
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Speaker 6: I guess is sort of this generation's debate. And I

481
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Speaker 6: can tell you that, like, my son is a crazy

482
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Speaker 6: basketball fan, grew up playing nothing but basketball.

483
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Speaker 16: He's twenty two and he never stops.

484
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Speaker 6: Telling me that Lebron is the greatest player of all time,

485
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Speaker 6: and you know it makes me crazy, but you just

486
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Speaker 6: had to have seen it.

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Speaker 16: I'm I will forever be a Michael guy. I remember

488
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Speaker 16: sitting with.

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Speaker 6: You in the bowels of the old Chicago Stadium when

490
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Speaker 6: I was covering those Bulls teams because I worked locally

491
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Speaker 6: in Chicago and you would be in town to cover

492
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Speaker 6: the finals. And you'll remember hanging out with like Terry

493
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Speaker 6: Bores and Jesse Rodgers, all those guys you used to

494
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Speaker 6: hang out with, and those were my friend and so

495
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Speaker 6: you were there and I was like, wow, Dan Patrick

496
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Speaker 6: is here, and.

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Speaker 16: I would just sit at the table and listen.

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Speaker 6: Anyway, the point is I always tell younger people, if

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Speaker 6: you didn't watch Michael Jordan play, then I can understand

500
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Speaker 6: why you don't know the answer to this question. But

501
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Speaker 6: maybe the best way I can explain it is if

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Speaker 6: there was one game of basketball being played and my

503
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Speaker 6: life depended upon the outcome, I would pick Michael Jordan first,

504
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Speaker 6: and then I would make whatever plans you want to

505
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Speaker 6: make for the extended future, because he was going.

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Speaker 16: To find a way to win better than anyone else would.

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Speaker 6: So anyway, those are the two that jump to my

508
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Speaker 6: mind when you ask the question. I don't know if

509
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Speaker 6: it's exactly what you meant, but that's sort of where

510
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Speaker 6: my head went.

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Speaker 2: But do you provide information? Does Heimbo provide information so

512
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Speaker 2: you can win your sports debates?

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Speaker 6: One hundred percent? That's the idea here is that our debates,

514
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Speaker 6: particularly in the second book and in this one as well,

515
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Speaker 6: every argument we make is based on all of this data.

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Speaker 6: I mean, in this day and age, there is so

517
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Speaker 6: much data and information that's available inside and outside of

518
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Speaker 6: sports that we're not really debating. We're telling you the

519
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Speaker 6: data says these four people are the best, or the

520
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Speaker 6: data says this guy was the best at this or that. Now,

521
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Speaker 6: as you and I both know, no matter how weld you,

522
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Speaker 6: I think younger people have a greater appreciation of data

523
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Speaker 6: now than people our age. But at the same time,

524
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Speaker 6: no one, I don't think anyone thinks that the numbers

525
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Speaker 6: tell the entire story. You know, there's a science to it,

526
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Speaker 6: and that's really what is provided in the book. Hopefully

527
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Speaker 6: the writing adds a little bit of the art to it,

528
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Speaker 6: because in the judgment of anything, there's both of those.

529
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Speaker 6: But yes, every single argument that we make in all

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Speaker 6: three of the books, and especially this one, because we're

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Speaker 6: literally talking about four people from one hundred and twenty

532
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Speaker 6: four different teams. Every single one of them is based,

533
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Speaker 6: for the most part on the research that Hembo does,

534
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Speaker 6: which on some level is almost indisputable.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Greenberg, as a new book out it's

536
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Speaker 2: called Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises and their

537
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Speaker 2: most iconic figures. Give me the team that was the

538
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Speaker 2: toughest to come up with, it's Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 6: Well, the toughest and easiest at the same time probably

540
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Speaker 6: was the top team, which is the Yankees. Which is

541
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Speaker 6: to say, when you do the Mount Rushmore of the Yankees,

542
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Speaker 6: the people you're leaving off, if you pick the top

543
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Speaker 6: four people that you're leaving off, they would probably be

544
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Speaker 6: better than the Mount Rushmore of almost any other team

545
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Speaker 6: in sports. So for I'll just tell you that four

546
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Speaker 6: people not on the Yankees Mount Rushmore are the only

547
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Speaker 6: player ever unanimously elected to the Hall of Fame, which

548
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Speaker 6: is Mariano Rivera, the face of the sport for two decades,

549
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Speaker 6: which is Derek Jeter, the player who won the most

550
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Speaker 6: World Series of any in history, which is Yogi Bearra

551
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Speaker 6: and the most infamous, notorious, significant important owner in sports

552
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Speaker 6: for a generation, which is George Steinbrenner. So that's Forsome

553
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Speaker 6: would probably be as almost as good as just about

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Speaker 6: once you get past like the you know, the Lakers

555
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Speaker 6: and a few of the others, that would probably be

556
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Speaker 6: better than the Mount Rushmore of any other team. But

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Speaker 6: the Yankees had Babe Ruth, Louke Garrig, Joe Demangio, and

558
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Speaker 6: Mickey Mantle and then so there's just no in my opinion,

559
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Speaker 6: there's no debating those. So that was it was both.

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Speaker 6: It was painful to leave the people off that we

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Speaker 6: left off, but it was easy to choose. I'll tell

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Speaker 6: you what was hard because we did include some announcers

563
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Speaker 6: like Vince Scully is on the Dodgers Mount Rushmore, Bob

564
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Speaker 6: Euker is on the Milwaukee Brewers Mount Rushmore. But we

565
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Speaker 6: decided in all cases we would break a tie in

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Speaker 6: the favor of players. There were managers, there were coaches,

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Speaker 6: there are executives. But in all cases, if oh, the

568
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Speaker 6: light just went out of my office because I didn't

569
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Speaker 6: move hold on a second, let me sorry, I didn't know.

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Speaker 15: That would happen.

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Speaker 2: Hold On one. Tres Are tough there at the mother

572
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Speaker 2: Ship alight, just.

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Speaker 6: Yes, if they think they think the office is empty.

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Speaker 6: Sorry about that, leaving like Jack Buck off of the

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Speaker 6: Saint Louis. I've had a lot of people from Saint

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Speaker 6: Louis that are that we left Jack Buck off of

577
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Speaker 6: the Cardinals list and some of the other announcers that

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Speaker 6: if we were going to include any announces, we should

579
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Speaker 6: have gone all the way and put on those like

580
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Speaker 6: Ernie Harwell isn't on the Tiger's list, and Jack Buck

581
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Speaker 6: isn't on the Cardinals list, and there are a few others.

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Speaker 16: And again, that was.

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Speaker 6: Really and we write about it. I mean, I write

584
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Speaker 6: chapters on every one of these, so their names are

585
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Speaker 6: mentioned in all of them. But those were tough decisions

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Speaker 6: to make. I'll tell you another one. I have some

587
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Speaker 6: Green Bay Packer fans, like people who really know the

588
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Speaker 6: history of that franchise that are upset that we didn't

589
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Speaker 6: include Curly Lambeau. And we do write a lot about him.

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Speaker 6: Obviously his name is on the stadium, but we I mean,

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Speaker 6: you had to put Lombardi on the list, and then

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Speaker 6: we put the three quarterbacks. It just seems you've got

593
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Speaker 6: Bart Starr, you got Brett Fave. You got Aaron Rodgers

594
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Speaker 6: all the MVPs that they won. Stars still has the

595
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Speaker 6: best postseason winning record of any quarterback in history and

596
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Speaker 6: is the only quarterback in the modern era to win

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Speaker 6: three straight championships. People think it's never been done, but

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Speaker 6: that's wrong. They just didn't call it the super Bowl

599
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Speaker 6: when he won the first of those three. But he

600
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Speaker 6: won three in a row. It felt like those three

601
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Speaker 6: had to be on. But there are a lot of

602
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Speaker 6: people who think if you don't include Curly Lambeau, you're

603
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Speaker 6: making a mistake. So we've had a lot of pushback.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're really passionate. Fans of different places will

605
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Speaker 6: have pretty strong opinions.

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Speaker 2: I know that you're a pronounced Jets fan, but oh god,

607
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Speaker 2: now I don't have any allegiance anymore. When I got

608
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Speaker 2: to Sports Center, I shed my allegiance to anything with

609
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Speaker 2: the Bengals or the Reds. I just it was easier

610
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Speaker 2: for me to do it that way. But you go

611
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Speaker 2: to work on that Monday, after a Sunday with the

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Speaker 2: Jets or after I mean, there's sports depression, but you

613
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Speaker 2: still have to do your job like there's no loss

614
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: that affects me. With the Reds or the Bengals, the

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Speaker 2: teams that I grew up rooting for, where I go

616
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Speaker 2: into that next day. But do you just absorb it

617
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Speaker 2: like you are you conditioned? You just go, Okay, this

618
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Speaker 2: is what it means to be a Jets fan.

619
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Speaker 6: At this point, I think my sports soul is calloused

620
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Speaker 6: enough to sort of absorb that, the depression that is

621
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Speaker 6: being a Jet fan. It's interesting because I host two

622
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Speaker 6: different shows, and this has always been my philosophy, Dan,

623
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Speaker 6: and I'm not sure how you see it, but when

624
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Speaker 6: you're hosting a show like Sports Center, as you did

625
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Speaker 6: for all those years as well as anyone ever did,

626
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Speaker 6: or in my case, when I host the Sunday Morning

627
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Speaker 6: Countdown show or when I host the NFL Draft, those

628
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 6: are shows people are not watching because I'm on them.

629
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Speaker 16: They're watching them because they're fans of the sport.

630
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Speaker 6: When I was hosting the NBA, they're watching because they're

631
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Speaker 6: fans of the sport. No one but my mother is

632
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Speaker 6: watching because they want to hear what I have to say.

633
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Speaker 6: And so in those cases, I don't bring my fandom

634
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Speaker 6: to that conversation at all. I don't treat the Jets

635
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 6: or any other team that I pay attention to any

636
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 6: differently than I do any other team on talk shows

637
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 6: that are my own shows. So when we were doing

638
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 6: Mike and Mike, or now when I do get up,

639
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 6: I figure the reason people are watching is because of

640
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 6: your personality. It is because of who you are. They're

641
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 6: tuning in to hear what you have to say about things,

642
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 6: and in those like that's how I got to this.

643
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 6: I didn't play, you know, I didn't. I was I'm

644
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 6: not a former athlete. I'm just a fan. I'm just

645
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 6: a kid who grew up loving sports in the nineteen seventies,

646
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Speaker 6: and those are my teams. So I've never made any secret.

647
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Speaker 16: I don't know if I've ever.

648
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Speaker 6: Told you this, but the way that started was your

649
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 6: friend and mine, Robin Roberts on the Old on a

650
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Speaker 6: Saturday morning sports center. Right before Robin left to do GMA,

651
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Speaker 6: I was hosting a Saturday morning sports center with her,

652
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Speaker 6: and the Jets were playing a playoff game that night.

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Speaker 6: And this was before there was Mike and Mike. This

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Speaker 6: was before any of that, and I had never acknowledged

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Speaker 6: what team I rooted for. I would have thought that

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Speaker 6: that would be totally forgotten, that I would you know,

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Speaker 6: Norby would call me in and fire me if that

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Speaker 6: came up on the air. In my own little private way,

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Speaker 6: I wore a green tie that day. That's it said

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Speaker 6: nothing of it, just as wearing a green tie. And

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Speaker 6: then in one of those.

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Speaker 16: Little moments that you have for chit chat on.

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Speaker 6: Sports Center, you know where they would be like that

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Speaker 6: little interaction and Robin says, greeny, I see that green tie.

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Speaker 6: Obviously got that on for the big Jets game tonight,

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Speaker 6: and I thought, oh my god, this is the worst

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Speaker 6: thing that's ever happened to me. Here I am. I'm

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Speaker 6: anchoring ESPN News five days a week. They put me

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Speaker 6: on Sports Center like once a month. I'm getting this chance,

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Speaker 6: and now I'm getting, you.

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Speaker 16: Know, outed as a fan of a team.

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Speaker 6: This is going to be the worst.

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Speaker 16: Thing that ever happened to me.

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Speaker 6: And obviously nothing terrible happened. And then it wasn't until

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Speaker 6: we started doing Mike and Mike that I thought, well,

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Speaker 6: what am I going to sit here talking about? You know, like,

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Speaker 6: what is the We can't just sit here and analyze

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Speaker 6: a in a dry way. All the x's and o's

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Speaker 6: of all these games. People want to hear what your

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Speaker 6: passion is. So we talked about that, and there's no

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Speaker 6: question I talk about the Jets differently than I do

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Speaker 6: other bad teams in the sport. It's just the way

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Speaker 6: it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Before I let you go, Fritzy, who you know well,

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Speaker 2: wants to try out as an announcer for Get Up

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Speaker 2: and he has a get Up tease that he would

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Speaker 2: like to read for you. So, Todd, Todd, you ready.

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Speaker 6: Let's do it? Okay, good morning.

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Speaker 5: You thought the Yankees were done, but who are we

690
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Speaker 5: to judge? The captain spread some Tuesday night fever as

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Speaker 5: the Bronx bombers are staying alive. It took a while

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Speaker 5: to get things racing in the Motor city and then

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Speaker 5: Seattle slew.

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Speaker 6: Did lebron make the wrong decision? Again?

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Speaker 5: Wait until you, Henna see the reaction would be a

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Speaker 5: sobering end for the Cubs with old Milwaukee brotherly glove.

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Speaker 5: Can the Fills catch up with those artful Dodgers? An

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Speaker 5: angry bird is fined in Arizona? And are you fine

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Speaker 5: with Jerry's bird flip explanation? If a drops on the

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Speaker 5: ice and no one saw it, did it really happen?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 5: The NHL is underway, and he got reciped from the

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Speaker 5: Dog pat in Cleveland by Cincinnati.

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Speaker 6: We'll tell you why. It's not whack though. For the

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Speaker 6: Bengals to buy into Flacco, it's time to get up.

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Speaker 6: That is very well done, Fritzy. You only missed one thing. Somehow,

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Speaker 6: some way. You have to get the Cowboys in. I

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Speaker 6: mean you can't. We can't possibly do it.

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Speaker 2: It's true, you can't. Well no, we had Jerry's Jerry

710
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Speaker 2: flipping off the crowd, so we did squeeze in. Cowboy

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Speaker 2: didn't get Dack in, but you got you got Jerry

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Speaker 2: and oh.

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Speaker 6: I, miss I must have been laughing over that one.

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Speaker 6: That's extraordinarily well done. I will steal most of those

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Speaker 6: puns from you. I particularly like Seattle slew. That one

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Speaker 6: goes for those who remember. That's a very well played one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks h Greenee, good to talk to you. Good luck

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Speaker 2: with the book, and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 6: Great to see you call. It is a delight to

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Speaker 6: be on. Great to see you Dan and everybody.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you Greenie. The book is called Get

722
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Speaker 2: Got Your Legends, ranking America's sports franchises their most iconic figures.

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Speaker 2: He's Mike Greenberg. All right, Tod, there you go. You

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Speaker 2: keep talking your way back to Yeah. Once this show's over,

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Speaker 2: you'll be like, hey, Greenee, remember me? Are you texting

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Speaker 2: Greenee right now? Great appearance.

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Speaker 6: As soon as you go to break.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

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Speaker 1: dot com. Within the iHeartRadio app, search FSR to listen live.

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Speaker 2: Some A caller asked the defensive player of the year

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Speaker 2: according to DraftKings right now, Aiden Hutchinson is your favorite,

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Speaker 2: followed by Micah Parsons, Miles Garrett, Nick, Benito, the Broncos. Heck, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that you don't know him,

736
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Speaker 2: but then you watch the game and you're like, why

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Speaker 2: don't I know this guy?

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Speaker 6: Who's that number?

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Speaker 5: Fifteen? Breaking through?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: Tod.

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Speaker 2: Will Anderson is also in there, Jared Verse, TJ. Watt,

743
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Speaker 2: and Fred Warner. Fred Warner Corey in Kansas City, Hi, Corey,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, mister Patrick. Always a pleasure to speak

746
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Speaker 14: with you. A six foot three tall piece of white

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Speaker 14: chocolate Marvin by the way, you have a standing honorary

748
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Speaker 14: invite the persons of Heights Barbecue anyways. Hey, by the way, guys,

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Speaker 14: just for the record, remember presidents of Temporary but wooching

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Speaker 14: this rapper anyways, I just wanted to say I'm a

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Speaker 14: dedicated podcast listener, some a little bit behind on some

752
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 14: of these topics. Have a TV show recommendation, and then

753
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 14: also a shout out to the weirdest interview you ever had.

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Speaker 14: TV show recommendation is the rehearsal starring Nathan Fielder kind

755
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Speaker 14: of reminds me of you, guys. You're not really sure

756
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 14: what's scripted and what's not, and it's also kind of

757
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 14: like the unlike anything you've really ever seen before. And

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Speaker 14: then for your interview debo, Samuel from being the first

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Speaker 14: guest to ever answer a question by drinking water to

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Speaker 14: Marvin doing his best Chris Farley impression.

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Speaker 13: God, that was a show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Corey. That was at the super Bowl. I

763
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Speaker 2: knew it wasn't gonna go well. I knew it was

764
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Speaker 2: going to go well. Deebo Samuel shows up during commercial break,

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Speaker 2: I walk up, say hello, and really very little acknowledgment,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, Okay, you know, maybe it's going to

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Speaker 2: warm him up a little bit here. And then I

768
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Speaker 2: realized now that was about as good as it was

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Speaker 2: going to get. And then, but I had promised Marvin

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Speaker 2: I was gonna let him ask a question. I didn't

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Speaker 2: go to him like, I give up. Marvin's a Niner fan,

772
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Speaker 2: and I said, you know, go ahead and ask Debo

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Speaker 2: a question. And I think you asked a question, Marvin.

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Speaker 12: I did not have a question at all, because in

775
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Speaker 12: my head, if Deebo doesn't want to answer Dan Patrick's questions,

776
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Speaker 12: what makes you thinks he wants to answer my questions.

777
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Speaker 12: So you were like, hey, Marvin's a nineer fan, He's

778
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Speaker 12: got a question.

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Speaker 6: I was like, no, I don't.

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Speaker 2: He. I don't think Deebo knew who I was. I

781
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Speaker 2: think he was just there. It was a paid, you know,

782
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Speaker 2: gig that they have at the super Bowl. But I

783
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Speaker 2: don't think he was interested in, you know, engaging. Yeah, Paul,

784
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Speaker 2: it was outdoors.

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Speaker 3: It was in Scottsdale, and it was cool in the morning,

786
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Speaker 3: but it wasn't cold.

787
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Speaker 2: Oh it was cold when you showed up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you walk up to Deebo and you are Deebo

789
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Speaker 3: Dan Patrick. His response was whose idea? Was it to

790
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Speaker 3: have the show outside and that's it. That's the longest

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Speaker 3: sentence he had.

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Speaker 5: Yuh yes, How would you compare that experience to your

793
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Speaker 5: Willie Maze interview in Scottsdale and the amount of eye

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Speaker 5: contact that was going on in body language.

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Speaker 2: That was such a long time ago, and you know Willie.

796
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Speaker 2: I hated. I hated asking if Willie would talk about

797
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Speaker 2: Barry Bonds. I hated that because he was putt in

798
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Speaker 2: a tough situation and he even said, you know, I

799
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Speaker 2: got to talk about that leap, you know, steroid stuff.

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Speaker 2: He was not saying that about Barry. But yeah, that

801
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Speaker 2: that was one that I I don't know, I'd like

802
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Speaker 2: to have that one back and not ask him because

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00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: it just I've felt like, I don't know, I was

804
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: picking on somebody a lot older in a situation where

805
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: they didn't want to talk about Barry. So but I

806
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: was such a Hank Aaron fan that you know, I

807
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: had to, you know, take that and put it to

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Speaker 2: the side. My jobs to ask questions. But that one

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Speaker 2: now was uncomfortable. I felt bad. Let's see Austin, Austin

810
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Speaker 2: in California. I don't know if I got that right.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, Dan, can you hear me?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Hi, Yeah, Austin and California. I called a couple

814
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Speaker 8: of weeks ago, one of a few Bengals fans there

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Speaker 8: in California. You know, I was listening to your Thanks

816
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Speaker 8: for taking my call. I was listening to your interview

817
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 8: with Mike really really nicely done. A fan of Mike

818
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Speaker 8: as well, and you talked about how you grew up

819
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Speaker 8: a Bengals red stand but you kind of dropped all

820
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Speaker 8: of your fandom when you joined Sports Center. And I

821
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Speaker 8: know you've talked about this several times on your show

822
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Speaker 8: in the past, but I just I don't know, like

823
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Speaker 8: deep down, is it always still in you? Like, for example,

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Speaker 8: if the Bengals were in the Super Bowl and they

825
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Speaker 8: played another team and everything being objective and there's no

826
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Speaker 8: real underdog story, it's too even teams. Do you not

827
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Speaker 8: deep down route for the team that you grew up

828
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Speaker 8: rooting for or how do you how have you taken

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Speaker 8: that out of your conscience?

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Speaker 2: Now I would root for the fan base in cincinnat

831
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Speaker 2: but I don't have any loyalty to the Bengals or

832
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Speaker 2: the Reds. I want a good story, but you America

833
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 2: doesn't need to hear how much I love a team

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Speaker 2: or don't love a team. I just didn't want to

835
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Speaker 2: put that biased in And look, it's worked for Chris Berman,

836
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Speaker 2: it's worked for other people, Stuart Scott with Greeney. I

837
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Speaker 2: just that was the path that I chose. Difficult at

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Speaker 2: the time, but I'm glad I did it that way.

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Speaker 2: Final hour on this Wednesday, Jimmy Rollins will stop by.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk some baseball with him after this