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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: It's a Battle Brown, Battle Brown, Battle Brown podcast.

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Speaker 1: What's up you guys?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into the show, and I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 3: Man super excited.

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Speaker 1: For a guest on our show today.

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Speaker 3: Some will call him him, some say that he is

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Speaker 3: a guy that never misses. Give it up for the one,

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Speaker 3: the only, Carmelo Hayes, mellow man, It's good to have

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Speaker 3: you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Man, how are you?

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Bra?

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Speaker 2: Most people would say, I don't miss it. Most people

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Speaker 2: would call me him. Not some people.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, We're not gonna even say that.

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Speaker 3: Not some not most everybody says that mellow miss never misses.

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Speaker 3: I gotta ask you real quick, how's the wedding planning going.

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Speaker 3: I know it's stressful, as somebody that has been in

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Speaker 3: this situation before.

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Speaker 2: It's going good. Connie's handling a lot of it. She's

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Speaker 2: on top of it, and I'm giving my two cents.

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Speaker 2: When when warranted, a lot of people thought that we

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Speaker 2: already got married. I guess that was like the big thing.

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Speaker 2: The wedding is in October. Everybody or engagement photos and

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Speaker 2: I'm super excited and we're havoy there really.

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Speaker 3: And it'll be here before you know it and heads

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Speaker 3: up if you need a DJ. By the way, I

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Speaker 3: do that outside of this radio and podcasting thing.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in a DJs right, yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: you man. If you need one, we'll set it up now.

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Speaker 3: I do want to talk about this real quick because

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Speaker 3: back in the NXTO days, you unified championships as nobody

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Speaker 3: had ever touched at the same time, did you feel

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Speaker 3: that you had to do more than everyone else just

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Speaker 3: to get noticed.

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Speaker 2: I always feel like that. I still feel like that.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think the championships really made a difference or not,

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Speaker 2: but I do remember winning them in HBK being like, hey, like,

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Speaker 2: you're winning both of these titles, Like you know, you

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Speaker 2: don't have to step up and really prove to a

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Speaker 2: lot of people that probably don't think that you deserve

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Speaker 2: it why you're winning both of these titles. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I always have that chip on my shoulder of having

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Speaker 2: to prove and do more than what's expected.

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And what was that moment like for you when Sean

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Speaker 3: came to you and said, hey, we're giving you both titles,

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Speaker 3: Because obviously that shows that they have a lot of faith.

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Speaker 2: In you Yeah, I think it was that. I think

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Speaker 2: it was, you know at the time if I actually

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Speaker 2: I'm almost having to remember. At the time, it was

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Speaker 2: kind of we were overlapping, you know, the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold era, and we were just putting that like final stamp,

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Speaker 2: I hate the like nailing the coffin two point zero,

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Speaker 2: I mean to Black and Gold. But it felt like

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Speaker 2: it was kind of like, hey, we're starting something new.

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Speaker 2: We're getting almost rid of that Cruiserweight championship and you

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Speaker 2: know you're going to carry that North American championship. Because

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Speaker 2: we never really talked about it. I was the thing,

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Speaker 2: of just that was it, you know, the Cruiserweight title.

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Speaker 2: But but Sean and I had a bunch of talks

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Speaker 2: like that, and you know, he mentioned to me a

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Speaker 2: lot of times like hey, we're running with you, Like hey,

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Speaker 2: like I need you to do your part, you know,

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Speaker 2: I need you to do and I need you to

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Speaker 2: be my guy. You know, same with.

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Speaker 1: Braun right assolutely.

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Speaker 3: And the one thing that everybody talks about is from

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Speaker 1: At what point did you realize that crowd was yours?

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Speaker 2: Mm? That crowd is wishy washy even still to this day.

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Speaker 2: Like that crowd, they're never yours, They're they're who's hot

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Speaker 2: in the moment. And I knew that, and I understood that,

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Speaker 2: and it was one of those things where, you know,

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Speaker 2: I even did a promo with Trick where it's like

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Speaker 2: the next guy cerin, they'll switch on you. And that's

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Speaker 2: the truth. Man. That crowd, you know, they'll make it,

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Speaker 2: but they'll also break you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Uh Friday Night SmackDown for it worth Dickie's Arena

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Speaker 3: April twenty fourth. You can still get those tickets ticketmaster

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Speaker 3: dot com, WWE dot com. And speaking of SmackDown, being

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Speaker 3: drafted as high as you were is a massive deal.

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Speaker 3: That was the call up that everybody had been talking about.

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Speaker 3: Did the main roster feel like everything you imagine or

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Speaker 3: did it humble you?

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Speaker 2: I didn't need to be humbled, And that was the

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Speaker 2: I understood the assignment. You know, I ran you know,

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Speaker 2: the play that was put in front of me, and

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Speaker 2: that's what I did in NXT and no different and

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Speaker 2: on the main roster, I just think the machine is

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Speaker 2: just a lot bigger.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that one adjustment for you from going

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Speaker 2: It was a lot of adjustments, but you know, I

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Speaker 2: of NXT in a way where you know, it's a

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Speaker 2: a little bit more control on you as far as

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Speaker 2: you know, you're you're more clued in on things and

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Speaker 2: you kind of have a better idea of what is

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Speaker 2: what and then main roster is kind of like every

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Speaker 2: man for themselves if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, absolutely for sure.

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Speaker 3: And something really cool happened for you, Uh you won

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Speaker 3: the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, which is an

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Speaker 3: awesome feat. You put that right there on your career

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Speaker 3: stats for a kid that grew up watching w W,

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Speaker 3: What did that actually that.

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Speaker 1: Moment mean for you when you won the Battle Royal.

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Speaker 2: Mm, I mean I was always Championship Gold oriented. I

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Speaker 2: didn't grow up saying I wanted to win the Battle Royal.

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Speaker 2: But it was cool, man. I mean it did feel

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Speaker 2: I wasn't just like, yeah, I won the battle, but like, no,

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Speaker 2: it was you know, I want to be the I

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Speaker 2: want to be a freaking champ. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: This is cool, but like, where's my title?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I'm looking for I'm looking

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Speaker 2: for the I'm looking for the gold, you know. But

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Speaker 2: it was a cool moment, and the crowd reaction was

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Speaker 2: really really cool to hear like that. So many people

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely for sure. And you mentioned title. I gotta say, Uh,

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Speaker 3: Reign had some of the best open challenges that we've

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Speaker 3: seen on SmackDown in years.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Was there a name that you wanted to see walk

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Speaker 3: through that curtain that didn't.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm? Yeah? Wow? Uh yeah, I mean, yeah, there was

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Speaker 2: definitely names like you know, I wish a lot of Raw.

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Speaker 2: I wish I could have worked with a lot of

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Speaker 2: Kofe was one of them. Raimsterea was another one of them.

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Speaker 2: I think that was on the table at one point. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I went out there every week, different styles, different companies,

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Speaker 2: You know, it was like eight defenses or something like that. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, I learned a lot from that, from the

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Speaker 3: Man, I really wish we would have got that Mellow

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Speaker 3: and Ray Mysterio match that would have been definitely a

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Speaker 3: match of the Irri candidate for sure. Now, I do

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Speaker 3: want to talk about this because you mentioned it earlier

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Speaker 3: for a little bit, and of course after what took

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Speaker 1: You lose your titles.

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Speaker 3: Of course, everybody on the internet has their own thoughts

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Speaker 3: of why and when and all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to address to those people.

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Speaker 3: Talking about these rumors of why you lost the drop

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Speaker 2: Well, what rumors are they saying?

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Speaker 3: The rumors were that you lost it because you were

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Speaker 3: having a wedding, and there's other things here and there.

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Speaker 2: This probably is not the platform for that, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got smacked on off Friday. I think

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Speaker 2: that'll be a more appropriate platform to kind of, you know,

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Speaker 2: heartbroken that I'm not champion anymore. That was something that

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Speaker 2: I took a lot of pride in. You know, we'll

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Speaker 2: see what's on the table for WrestleMania, But as far

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Speaker 2: as that goes, I think, you know, smack Now is

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Speaker 1: So you better tune in this Friday Night SmackDown because

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Speaker 1: we'll hear all of it.

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Speaker 3: So don't believe everything you read on the internet. Is

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Speaker 3: what we're telling you right now.

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Speaker 2: Please don't believe everything you read on the internet. Bro,

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Speaker 2: Please don't believe.

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Speaker 3: And that's what's wild is because nobody when you see

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Speaker 3: those things on the internet. And that's why we're giving

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Speaker 3: you the op the platform here. People always like to

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Speaker 3: assume things. Everything is this, everything is that, and until

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Speaker 3: it comes from actually mellow, don't believe everything you read

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Speaker 2: And I try not to get too deep into where

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Speaker 2: I like have to feel like I need to clear

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Speaker 2: taking off, I don't like to have to do that

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Speaker 2: just because, but I see how can really quickly, you know,

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Speaker 2: transform into a truth if people don't, if you don't

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Speaker 2: put us up to it. Like the honeymoon thing, I

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Speaker 2: was like really surprised by that. I was like, really,

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Speaker 2: people think I'm losing my title and to go on honey.

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Speaker 3: Like like out of all the things they say, that's

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Speaker 3: why it's love.

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Speaker 2: I love my girl. I love my girl. But like

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Speaker 2: she she would, she would understand right absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Now, what is it Because it's a really cool thing

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Speaker 3: that you're both in the same industry.

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Speaker 1: So what is that like?

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Speaker 3: Being able to both do what you love while doing

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Speaker 3: Well, I know that our time is coming up here

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Speaker 3: to end this thing. I know WW SmackDown Come into

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Speaker 2: Or artist, probably J Cole, probably Middle Child. If you

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, that oof. Can we let's put it out

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Speaker 1: Let's let's do it.

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Speaker 1: And uh maybe thats what happens. I don't know, we'll

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Speaker 3: Uh, Mello, really do appreciate you spending your time hanging

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fort Worth, Texas. We're super excited about coming back

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Speaker 2: Always a great time in Texas, especially that Fort Worth area,

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