1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:21,828 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,588 --> 00:00:25,148 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football, Uh huh. 4 00:00:25,148 --> 00:00:27,148 Speaker 3: It is a good morning to talk about football. It's 5 00:00:27,148 --> 00:00:28,708 Speaker 3: also a great data shop at best Buy if you 6 00:00:28,708 --> 00:00:31,468 Speaker 3: want to. But they are presenting our show today. I'm 7 00:00:31,548 --> 00:00:33,788 Speaker 3: Jamie Ertall. This is akbar Badja Biamilla. 8 00:00:34,228 --> 00:00:35,188 Speaker 2: This is Kyle Brant. 9 00:00:35,308 --> 00:00:38,188 Speaker 3: We are live in Los Angeles, but we take you 10 00:00:38,228 --> 00:00:41,948 Speaker 3: from one beach to another to start our second hour 11 00:00:41,988 --> 00:00:45,308 Speaker 3: here in NFL Network. We go to Miami and the 12 00:00:45,348 --> 00:00:50,628 Speaker 3: Dolphins because their owner, Stephen Ross had some thoughts about 13 00:00:51,268 --> 00:00:53,908 Speaker 3: what direction his team could go in this season. It 14 00:00:53,988 --> 00:00:55,948 Speaker 3: is our lead block with the generic blue helmet. This 15 00:00:55,988 --> 00:00:58,468 Speaker 3: is Stephen Ross. Right now. We have a great roster, 16 00:00:58,868 --> 00:01:02,788 Speaker 3: there's great expectations, but we have the old injury boog. 17 00:01:02,868 --> 00:01:05,188 Speaker 3: I feel like everybody does. That's my own opinion. But 18 00:01:05,308 --> 00:01:06,748 Speaker 3: back to the quote, you got to make sure that 19 00:01:06,748 --> 00:01:09,748 Speaker 3: that doesn't happen like last year. I think that without that, 20 00:01:09,988 --> 00:01:13,748 Speaker 3: and if we stay healthy, we're certainly a contender for 21 00:01:13,788 --> 00:01:18,548 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Stephen Ross, Kyle, your thoughts on the 22 00:01:18,548 --> 00:01:20,388 Speaker 3: owner of his team? Thinky His team will be in 23 00:01:20,428 --> 00:01:21,548 Speaker 3: New Orleans in February. 24 00:01:21,668 --> 00:01:23,388 Speaker 2: He should absolutely he should this. 25 00:01:23,508 --> 00:01:25,268 Speaker 4: They've they've had a couple of warm up seasons with 26 00:01:25,308 --> 00:01:27,948 Speaker 4: the coach, They've done some exciting things. I don't mind 27 00:01:27,948 --> 00:01:29,548 Speaker 4: the quote at all, like this is this is the 28 00:01:29,588 --> 00:01:32,148 Speaker 4: team that, look, everybody says we're trying to get the 29 00:01:32,148 --> 00:01:34,388 Speaker 4: Super Bowl this year. There's like, I don't know, eight 30 00:01:34,468 --> 00:01:37,148 Speaker 4: or eight, maybe maybe seven that are like, yeah, I 31 00:01:37,148 --> 00:01:39,308 Speaker 4: can I can conceivably see that. Now, sometimes you get 32 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,628 Speaker 4: the crazy team, but I think the Dolphins are one 33 00:01:41,628 --> 00:01:44,068 Speaker 4: of those eight, one of those seven. They're also just 34 00:01:44,108 --> 00:01:48,028 Speaker 4: in that that really frustrating sweet spot for fans where it's, 35 00:01:48,068 --> 00:01:49,988 Speaker 4: you know, get over the hump, climb them out, whatever 36 00:01:50,028 --> 00:01:53,348 Speaker 4: you want, where they had these amazing, brilliant, really incredible, 37 00:01:53,388 --> 00:01:56,308 Speaker 4: fast and furious seasons and then it's just it's just 38 00:01:56,348 --> 00:01:58,828 Speaker 4: been nothing like that. That Chiefs game is one of 39 00:01:58,868 --> 00:02:01,068 Speaker 4: the worst tastes of vomit in your mouth you could 40 00:02:01,068 --> 00:02:02,668 Speaker 4: ever have as a fan because it was just nothing. 41 00:02:03,108 --> 00:02:05,228 Speaker 2: But there's so much pot that have going on, and. 42 00:02:05,268 --> 00:02:07,148 Speaker 4: I get critical of being I get accused of being 43 00:02:07,188 --> 00:02:08,148 Speaker 4: critical of the Dolphins. 44 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:09,348 Speaker 2: Here's my tick, and I'd love. 45 00:02:09,228 --> 00:02:10,908 Speaker 4: To see some Dolphins highlights just so we can get 46 00:02:10,948 --> 00:02:13,428 Speaker 4: let's get fired up about the Dolphins's so many points. 47 00:02:13,548 --> 00:02:17,548 Speaker 4: All my feeling on the Dolphins is always like last year, 48 00:02:17,588 --> 00:02:20,268 Speaker 4: they just date all this stuff is great and it's 49 00:02:20,428 --> 00:02:23,388 Speaker 4: it's candy and it's exciting and fast and furious. As 50 00:02:23,388 --> 00:02:25,428 Speaker 4: that propos because it's like one of those movies they 51 00:02:25,468 --> 00:02:26,788 Speaker 4: just come out all the time and they're fast and 52 00:02:26,788 --> 00:02:27,668 Speaker 4: there's things blowing up. 53 00:02:27,668 --> 00:02:30,108 Speaker 2: But like at the end, do you really feel great 54 00:02:30,148 --> 00:02:31,028 Speaker 2: about those movies? 55 00:02:31,068 --> 00:02:32,428 Speaker 4: Like are you like, oh, I kind of feel a 56 00:02:32,468 --> 00:02:34,308 Speaker 4: little bit sick. Like they're fun and everything, but like 57 00:02:34,468 --> 00:02:36,348 Speaker 4: not very good for me, Like I didn't learn anything. 58 00:02:36,948 --> 00:02:39,628 Speaker 4: It's the Dolphins last year felt like Instagram scrolling. 59 00:02:39,708 --> 00:02:41,628 Speaker 2: You're just you're kind of addicted to it. You can't 60 00:02:41,668 --> 00:02:42,268 Speaker 2: stop looking. 61 00:02:42,348 --> 00:02:45,228 Speaker 4: It's everything you'd like, it's everything that gives you the dopamine. 62 00:02:45,268 --> 00:02:47,668 Speaker 2: Just swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe, and. 63 00:02:47,628 --> 00:02:49,708 Speaker 4: Then after you've swiped for an hour, you're just like, 64 00:02:49,788 --> 00:02:52,908 Speaker 4: got it. I have had this horrible empty feeling inside 65 00:02:53,148 --> 00:02:55,188 Speaker 4: and that was them at the Chiefs and Narrowhead. It's 66 00:02:55,388 --> 00:02:58,548 Speaker 4: you're gonna notice that in all these highlights, and especially 67 00:02:58,588 --> 00:03:01,548 Speaker 4: the seventy points against Denver, it's just beating the crap 68 00:03:01,588 --> 00:03:03,428 Speaker 4: out of bad teams and that's that's great. 69 00:03:03,428 --> 00:03:04,388 Speaker 2: It's good that they should do that. 70 00:03:04,828 --> 00:03:06,868 Speaker 4: You're not gonna say a out of highlights from quality teams. 71 00:03:06,868 --> 00:03:09,348 Speaker 4: They're not putting up seventy points against the Bills. They're 72 00:03:09,388 --> 00:03:10,148 Speaker 4: just not doing. 73 00:03:09,948 --> 00:03:10,348 Speaker 2: Any of that. 74 00:03:10,548 --> 00:03:13,028 Speaker 4: So is this the season where there's like when you're 75 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:15,548 Speaker 4: done afterwards and you feel like, did I read a book, 76 00:03:15,988 --> 00:03:18,668 Speaker 4: did I watch a film, or did I just scroll 77 00:03:18,708 --> 00:03:20,988 Speaker 4: ig and watch Vin Diesel blow stuff up. I hope 78 00:03:21,028 --> 00:03:23,628 Speaker 4: it's the first one, because it's time to change, and 79 00:03:23,668 --> 00:03:25,748 Speaker 4: I think the owner is right, let's have a little 80 00:03:25,828 --> 00:03:27,508 Speaker 4: nutrient of value at the end of the season for 81 00:03:27,548 --> 00:03:27,948 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. 82 00:03:27,988 --> 00:03:28,468 Speaker 2: That'd be cool. 83 00:03:28,628 --> 00:03:30,308 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm with this. 84 00:03:31,228 --> 00:03:33,388 Speaker 6: I mean, if you're the owner of the Miami Dolphins, 85 00:03:33,428 --> 00:03:35,108 Speaker 6: of course you're gonna feel this way. But he has 86 00:03:35,188 --> 00:03:38,508 Speaker 6: every reason to feel this way. You talk about the 87 00:03:38,548 --> 00:03:42,068 Speaker 6: Instagram scrolling every now and again. I think we've all 88 00:03:42,108 --> 00:03:44,788 Speaker 6: done it where you start scrolling and scrolling and you go, oh, 89 00:03:44,868 --> 00:03:47,188 Speaker 6: what's this and then you click on the page and 90 00:03:47,188 --> 00:03:49,428 Speaker 6: then you go into the link and before you know it, 91 00:03:49,468 --> 00:03:52,108 Speaker 6: you're off into somewhere else. Maybe this is the year 92 00:03:52,148 --> 00:03:55,028 Speaker 6: where you know they go off into somewhere else and 93 00:03:55,028 --> 00:03:57,748 Speaker 6: that somewhere else is deep into the playoffs. They've already 94 00:03:57,748 --> 00:04:00,468 Speaker 6: gone twice now back to back to the playoffs, but 95 00:04:00,508 --> 00:04:03,508 Speaker 6: maybe now they're going to trail off and go even further. 96 00:04:03,628 --> 00:04:05,468 Speaker 6: Like this is a team, you know he should be 97 00:04:05,548 --> 00:04:07,468 Speaker 6: excited about. He's got a quarterback that through for the 98 00:04:07,468 --> 00:04:11,028 Speaker 6: most yards since Dan Marino, Like there's been a lot 99 00:04:11,028 --> 00:04:13,668 Speaker 6: of quarterbacks in between there. So I mean it's saying 100 00:04:13,748 --> 00:04:16,588 Speaker 6: a lot. You've got tyreek Hill, You've got Waddle, You've 101 00:04:16,588 --> 00:04:19,748 Speaker 6: got Moster, You've got all of these talented guys on 102 00:04:19,868 --> 00:04:23,148 Speaker 6: your team. If not now, then when, like this is 103 00:04:23,428 --> 00:04:26,428 Speaker 6: this is the time to get excited. And you know 104 00:04:26,668 --> 00:04:29,468 Speaker 6: it's the a f C East too, Like you can 105 00:04:29,508 --> 00:04:31,348 Speaker 6: do it in the a f C East. I mean, 106 00:04:31,628 --> 00:04:33,588 Speaker 6: tell me a team that that could stop them in 107 00:04:33,588 --> 00:04:33,948 Speaker 6: the AFC. 108 00:04:36,348 --> 00:04:39,868 Speaker 5: You go throw the just in there shot with Rogers. 109 00:04:40,308 --> 00:04:43,468 Speaker 4: Yeah, defense is I don't know if they they will, 110 00:04:43,468 --> 00:04:45,668 Speaker 4: but like those guys don't mess around. 111 00:04:45,708 --> 00:04:46,668 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I. 112 00:04:48,548 --> 00:04:51,228 Speaker 6: Might buy that the bill's for sure, but I mean 113 00:04:51,388 --> 00:04:53,508 Speaker 6: that's it, Like they have a legitimate shot. 114 00:04:53,548 --> 00:04:54,988 Speaker 5: That's why he feels that way. 115 00:04:55,228 --> 00:04:57,188 Speaker 3: You guys have kids older than I do, so you've 116 00:04:57,188 --> 00:04:58,908 Speaker 3: done this before. I'm trying to teach my oldest how 117 00:04:58,948 --> 00:05:03,228 Speaker 3: to ride a bike. She still has she still has 118 00:05:03,228 --> 00:05:06,188 Speaker 3: her training wheels on, and you're trying to breathe confidence 119 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:09,188 Speaker 3: into Just think about if the training whels weren't there, 120 00:05:09,268 --> 00:05:11,228 Speaker 3: and focus on that middle tire. Well, she's in a 121 00:05:11,268 --> 00:05:12,788 Speaker 3: parking lot the other day, because you go to an 122 00:05:12,788 --> 00:05:14,748 Speaker 3: empty parking lot. It's like teaching a sixteen year old 123 00:05:14,788 --> 00:05:17,188 Speaker 3: hundred car shout up bike. She gets into this gully 124 00:05:17,268 --> 00:05:19,508 Speaker 3: where all of a sudden she's been pedaling, but her 125 00:05:19,588 --> 00:05:22,388 Speaker 3: training wheels are the only things touching the gold the sides, 126 00:05:22,588 --> 00:05:24,908 Speaker 3: and her wheels have no traction. So now she's just 127 00:05:25,028 --> 00:05:27,828 Speaker 3: pedaling and she's looking at me like, why aren't I 128 00:05:27,948 --> 00:05:31,108 Speaker 3: going anywhere? I'm like, shoot, I just you just learned 129 00:05:31,108 --> 00:05:32,788 Speaker 3: the lesson of the fact that you still have training 130 00:05:32,788 --> 00:05:35,268 Speaker 3: wheels on, and if you pedal and those wheels are down, 131 00:05:35,428 --> 00:05:37,588 Speaker 3: your tires are going to go nowhere fast. And that's 132 00:05:37,588 --> 00:05:40,148 Speaker 3: how I feel about the Miami dolphins. Like they're peddling, 133 00:05:40,468 --> 00:05:42,188 Speaker 3: they still have their train wheels on. All of a sudden, 134 00:05:42,188 --> 00:05:44,228 Speaker 3: that back tire gets lifted up and they're like pedaling. 135 00:05:44,268 --> 00:05:46,668 Speaker 3: They're looking around like, wait, we haven't gone anywhere in 136 00:05:46,748 --> 00:05:50,228 Speaker 3: December and in the January, and they have to keep 137 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:53,388 Speaker 3: pedaling the way they start the season all the way 138 00:05:53,388 --> 00:05:55,908 Speaker 3: through mid to late January. Otherwise we got nothing with 139 00:05:55,988 --> 00:05:56,348 Speaker 3: this team. 140 00:05:56,388 --> 00:05:58,668 Speaker 4: Well, it's like you're gonna try to teach your daughter 141 00:05:58,668 --> 00:06:00,668 Speaker 4: how to ride a bike in the snowstorm in five degrees. 142 00:06:00,748 --> 00:06:01,988 Speaker 2: No, it's really really hard. 143 00:06:02,228 --> 00:06:04,628 Speaker 4: It's the perfect metaphor because the Dolphins to take the 144 00:06:04,668 --> 00:06:06,708 Speaker 4: training wheels off, it's time to just go. 145 00:06:07,268 --> 00:06:09,588 Speaker 2: Teaching someone how to ride a bike is so difficult. 146 00:06:09,588 --> 00:06:13,548 Speaker 4: It's not only mentally frustrating, it's physically really really I mean, 147 00:06:13,548 --> 00:06:14,948 Speaker 4: what you got to do basically is you got to 148 00:06:14,948 --> 00:06:17,788 Speaker 4: like hold the back of their seat and by the 149 00:06:17,828 --> 00:06:19,988 Speaker 4: shoulder and then you just kind of like run them around, 150 00:06:20,028 --> 00:06:22,348 Speaker 4: but the lower back is going and like you're getting old, 151 00:06:22,508 --> 00:06:24,588 Speaker 4: and then eventually you got to They keep saying, don't 152 00:06:24,628 --> 00:06:26,668 Speaker 4: let me go, don't let me go, and McDaniel's. 153 00:06:26,228 --> 00:06:27,468 Speaker 2: Got to just just let them go. 154 00:06:27,788 --> 00:06:29,748 Speaker 4: But the problem is sometimes they fall on their face 155 00:06:29,748 --> 00:06:31,548 Speaker 4: and spit their knees and then they never trust you again, 156 00:06:31,588 --> 00:06:32,828 Speaker 4: and then they're going to a therapist couch. 157 00:06:32,828 --> 00:06:33,548 Speaker 5: So it's a. 158 00:06:33,468 --> 00:06:35,868 Speaker 4: Difficult thing, really difficult. 159 00:06:35,908 --> 00:06:37,628 Speaker 5: You know, the best way to do it, right. The 160 00:06:37,668 --> 00:06:39,028 Speaker 5: best way to teach your kids. 161 00:06:38,828 --> 00:06:41,428 Speaker 6: To ride a bike is take the training wheels off 162 00:06:41,788 --> 00:06:43,868 Speaker 6: and get them to get one of those ones where 163 00:06:43,868 --> 00:06:46,308 Speaker 6: they're just a strider, the strider, right, and you're just 164 00:06:46,308 --> 00:06:49,508 Speaker 6: going you're doing the srider and you work on your balance. 165 00:06:49,588 --> 00:06:51,628 Speaker 6: And I think that's where they are now. They've been 166 00:06:51,668 --> 00:06:55,188 Speaker 6: working on their balance, right. You take those bad boys off. Now, 167 00:06:55,308 --> 00:06:57,108 Speaker 6: all of a sudden, they're often going. 168 00:06:56,868 --> 00:06:58,108 Speaker 2: Out and do it. 169 00:06:58,188 --> 00:07:01,788 Speaker 4: They also bought them like the most expensive bike ever, 170 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:05,548 Speaker 4: that is true, and the fastest bike. Yeah, so like 171 00:07:05,628 --> 00:07:07,148 Speaker 4: maybe you know, they get in there and it's like 172 00:07:07,148 --> 00:07:10,188 Speaker 4: they got all the bell and they got the things 173 00:07:10,228 --> 00:07:12,988 Speaker 4: that the folks and the basket and the banana seat. 174 00:07:12,988 --> 00:07:14,108 Speaker 2: If they still do those, I don't know. 175 00:07:14,268 --> 00:07:16,348 Speaker 4: And but then once that bike gets going, it's like 176 00:07:16,508 --> 00:07:17,868 Speaker 4: more like a motorcycle. Yeah. 177 00:07:17,948 --> 00:07:20,868 Speaker 2: So when you fall off it like they did a narrowhead. 178 00:07:20,428 --> 00:07:22,908 Speaker 5: It's ugly. Yeah. So I guess what you're saying is 179 00:07:22,948 --> 00:07:23,828 Speaker 5: they got a knee bike. 180 00:07:24,348 --> 00:07:29,188 Speaker 4: Yeah, crap, crowd rocket. 181 00:07:29,228 --> 00:07:30,988 Speaker 3: I'm not going to even attempt to make the connection 182 00:07:31,028 --> 00:07:33,428 Speaker 3: between crotch rocket and this next conversation. We stayed with 183 00:07:33,468 --> 00:07:36,908 Speaker 3: the dolphins though, and this goes back in time. Tua 184 00:07:36,948 --> 00:07:41,668 Speaker 3: Tungovloa was on Dan Lebatard's podcast the other day and 185 00:07:41,868 --> 00:07:45,348 Speaker 3: Levatard asked him about his former head coach Brian Flores, 186 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:49,628 Speaker 3: and the quarterback in Miami did not mince words when 187 00:07:49,668 --> 00:07:52,708 Speaker 3: speaking of the relationship and the impact it had on 188 00:07:52,868 --> 00:07:53,788 Speaker 3: Tua at the time. 189 00:07:56,148 --> 00:08:00,228 Speaker 7: If you woke up every morning and I told you 190 00:08:00,228 --> 00:08:04,028 Speaker 7: you sucked at what you did, that you don't belong 191 00:08:04,508 --> 00:08:08,428 Speaker 7: doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that 192 00:08:09,308 --> 00:08:13,268 Speaker 7: this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, 193 00:08:13,348 --> 00:08:16,468 Speaker 7: and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, 194 00:08:16,668 --> 00:08:20,028 Speaker 7: you are the best fit for this, like you are accurate, 195 00:08:20,308 --> 00:08:22,788 Speaker 7: you are the best. Whatever you are, this you are that. 196 00:08:23,548 --> 00:08:26,628 Speaker 7: Like how would it make you feel listening to one 197 00:08:26,788 --> 00:08:29,228 Speaker 7: or the other? You see what I'm saying, and then 198 00:08:29,308 --> 00:08:31,748 Speaker 7: you hear it. You hear it regardless of what it is, 199 00:08:31,828 --> 00:08:34,708 Speaker 7: the good or the bad, and you hear it more 200 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:37,508 Speaker 7: and more. You start to actually believe that, I don't 201 00:08:37,508 --> 00:08:39,548 Speaker 7: care who you are, you can be the president of 202 00:08:39,588 --> 00:08:43,068 Speaker 7: the United States. You have a terrible person that's telling 203 00:08:43,108 --> 00:08:46,348 Speaker 7: you things that you don't want to hear or that 204 00:08:46,868 --> 00:08:49,188 Speaker 7: you probably shouldn't be hearing you're going to start to 205 00:08:49,228 --> 00:08:51,628 Speaker 7: believe that about yourself, and so that's sort of like 206 00:08:51,708 --> 00:08:54,628 Speaker 7: what ended up happening, and it was. 207 00:08:55,468 --> 00:08:56,188 Speaker 5: I mean, it's. 208 00:08:56,028 --> 00:08:58,508 Speaker 7: Basically been what two years of training that out of 209 00:08:58,868 --> 00:09:01,188 Speaker 7: not just me, but you know a couple of the 210 00:09:01,188 --> 00:09:03,588 Speaker 7: guys as well that have been here since my rookie year. 211 00:09:04,748 --> 00:09:06,988 Speaker 3: Well, they say it takes two weeks to build a 212 00:09:07,028 --> 00:09:09,988 Speaker 3: new habit. Well, Tua is claiming that for two years 213 00:09:10,068 --> 00:09:13,388 Speaker 3: he was told by Brian Flores when in his tenure 214 00:09:13,428 --> 00:09:16,068 Speaker 3: in coaching in Miami, that he was not the quarterback 215 00:09:16,108 --> 00:09:18,628 Speaker 3: that he wanted to do that job for the Miami 216 00:09:18,668 --> 00:09:21,828 Speaker 3: Dolphins at the time. Off bar hearing that knowing you know, 217 00:09:21,868 --> 00:09:23,788 Speaker 3: Brian Flora is the type of coach he is, knowing 218 00:09:23,828 --> 00:09:24,828 Speaker 3: to what he's become. 219 00:09:25,188 --> 00:09:26,308 Speaker 5: Your thoughts, Well. 220 00:09:26,068 --> 00:09:29,068 Speaker 6: First off, you know, shout out to two for just 221 00:09:29,188 --> 00:09:31,908 Speaker 6: even having the emotional awareness to be able to express 222 00:09:31,988 --> 00:09:35,868 Speaker 6: himself in this way. The players, the generation, it's a 223 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:40,308 Speaker 6: lot different. I think Brian Flores comes from a different era, 224 00:09:40,468 --> 00:09:41,508 Speaker 6: a different generation. 225 00:09:41,788 --> 00:09:42,908 Speaker 5: He's a strong will coach. 226 00:09:42,948 --> 00:09:44,868 Speaker 6: I don't think this is a knock on Brian Flores, 227 00:09:44,868 --> 00:09:47,628 Speaker 6: by the way, because I think the same approach could 228 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:50,708 Speaker 6: be highly effective for a player like a Kobe Bryant, 229 00:09:50,708 --> 00:09:53,508 Speaker 6: the late Kobe Bryant. You know guys who respond to that. 230 00:09:53,828 --> 00:09:56,308 Speaker 6: I think the younger generation, they respond to a different 231 00:09:56,308 --> 00:09:59,548 Speaker 6: type of coaching and it's up to the coach to 232 00:09:59,668 --> 00:10:03,308 Speaker 6: then make that adjustment. Every player is so different in 233 00:10:03,348 --> 00:10:07,548 Speaker 6: how they respond to criticism, how they respond to instructions, 234 00:10:07,788 --> 00:10:09,668 Speaker 6: and so I think what we're hearing here from Tua 235 00:10:09,748 --> 00:10:11,948 Speaker 6: is the fact that Tua was saying, look, I was 236 00:10:11,988 --> 00:10:14,908 Speaker 6: sensitive to that type of and it destroyed my confidence. 237 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:17,548 Speaker 6: And you could see it in the numbers. His numbers 238 00:10:17,588 --> 00:10:20,948 Speaker 6: with Flora's was dramatically different than what he has with 239 00:10:21,388 --> 00:10:22,228 Speaker 6: coach McDaniel. 240 00:10:22,948 --> 00:10:23,548 Speaker 5: Excuse me. 241 00:10:23,628 --> 00:10:26,628 Speaker 6: So I say that because when I think about the 242 00:10:26,668 --> 00:10:30,028 Speaker 6: players psyche, a lot of coaches fall into this trap. 243 00:10:30,148 --> 00:10:32,908 Speaker 5: Is like, it's just one way you're dealing. 244 00:10:32,588 --> 00:10:35,868 Speaker 6: With fifty three guys, and not that you're going to 245 00:10:35,948 --> 00:10:38,108 Speaker 6: have to go through and try to manage fifty three 246 00:10:38,148 --> 00:10:41,228 Speaker 6: different emotions. But especially a key position like a quarterback, 247 00:10:41,468 --> 00:10:43,548 Speaker 6: you do have to be a little bit more aware 248 00:10:43,708 --> 00:10:46,548 Speaker 6: on the type of player you're dealing with. And so 249 00:10:46,748 --> 00:10:49,388 Speaker 6: he just seems to really have kind of broke under that. 250 00:10:49,428 --> 00:10:52,028 Speaker 6: But I like that Mike McDaniel would be interested to 251 00:10:52,068 --> 00:10:55,628 Speaker 6: see what it is that Mike McDaniel's doing differently than 252 00:10:55,668 --> 00:10:56,748 Speaker 6: that of coach Flores. 253 00:10:57,028 --> 00:10:58,228 Speaker 5: Is it being soft spoken? 254 00:10:58,428 --> 00:11:00,468 Speaker 6: Is it just always telling him you're great, you're great, 255 00:11:00,468 --> 00:11:02,548 Speaker 6: you're great, and never criticizing him. 256 00:11:02,748 --> 00:11:04,908 Speaker 5: What is that coach mcdad and he's doing. 257 00:11:05,228 --> 00:11:08,668 Speaker 4: You know, it's a really powerful quote. It's also really accusatory. 258 00:11:08,708 --> 00:11:11,228 Speaker 4: I would love to hear Brian Flores's response, which we won't. 259 00:11:11,468 --> 00:11:13,148 Speaker 4: I mean, he's not a head coach right now. He's 260 00:11:13,188 --> 00:11:15,028 Speaker 4: in Minnesota and he's just not going to talk on that. 261 00:11:15,988 --> 00:11:18,428 Speaker 4: But it's also a little bit surprising. I mean, you know, 262 00:11:18,428 --> 00:11:21,588 Speaker 4: it's not like TUA has always just had Mike McDaniels, 263 00:11:21,588 --> 00:11:23,628 Speaker 4: Like he played under Staban who's like the oldest of 264 00:11:23,668 --> 00:11:26,348 Speaker 4: old school and like doesn't suffer fools if he doesn't 265 00:11:26,428 --> 00:11:29,588 Speaker 4: have to. But I think it's and it's like coaching 266 00:11:29,668 --> 00:11:32,068 Speaker 4: and parenting. It's it's you got to know your player 267 00:11:32,108 --> 00:11:34,508 Speaker 4: what they need. It's not something for everybody. It's like, 268 00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:39,188 Speaker 4: I don't believe this thing that this generation's players need 269 00:11:39,268 --> 00:11:41,628 Speaker 4: coddling or they're soft. I don't think that at all. 270 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:43,508 Speaker 4: I think that's way too broad of a stroke. I 271 00:11:43,548 --> 00:11:45,628 Speaker 4: see it in the NFL. I see it at my 272 00:11:45,708 --> 00:11:48,308 Speaker 4: ten year old's baseball games. They coach them hard sometimes 273 00:11:48,428 --> 00:11:50,788 Speaker 4: like this if anybody doesn't have kids, or is only 274 00:11:50,868 --> 00:11:53,348 Speaker 4: this illusion that everyone's soft now and everyone needs to 275 00:11:53,388 --> 00:11:55,828 Speaker 4: just be coddled constantly, it's not true. Sometimes they get 276 00:11:55,908 --> 00:11:57,868 Speaker 4: yelled at hard, and I've seen them from other teams, 277 00:11:57,908 --> 00:12:01,388 Speaker 4: from other towns everywhere. I just think like Mike McDaniel 278 00:12:01,428 --> 00:12:03,388 Speaker 4: saw Tua and realized what he needed, that this was 279 00:12:03,428 --> 00:12:05,668 Speaker 4: a guy who was really down in confidence, who didn't 280 00:12:05,668 --> 00:12:07,468 Speaker 4: believe in himself. On the side of that, he's dealing 281 00:12:07,508 --> 00:12:09,348 Speaker 4: with the injury issues he was, and I'm just gonna 282 00:12:09,348 --> 00:12:10,748 Speaker 4: build him up and I'm gonna make him feel like 283 00:12:10,748 --> 00:12:11,348 Speaker 4: a superstar. 284 00:12:11,628 --> 00:12:13,268 Speaker 2: I think it also happens a lot in what we do. 285 00:12:13,348 --> 00:12:15,068 Speaker 4: We've all worked with people who make you feel like 286 00:12:15,068 --> 00:12:17,428 Speaker 4: you're some media superstar or something, and people who are like, 287 00:12:17,628 --> 00:12:19,268 Speaker 4: why did you do that in that segment? You don't 288 00:12:19,268 --> 00:12:21,908 Speaker 4: belong there. I think it's a case to case basis. 289 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:23,428 Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of players that come in, 290 00:12:23,468 --> 00:12:26,868 Speaker 4: even rookies, who are like they need their ribs busted 291 00:12:26,948 --> 00:12:27,988 Speaker 4: right now by their coach, Like. 292 00:12:27,988 --> 00:12:28,788 Speaker 2: You got to do this better. 293 00:12:28,828 --> 00:12:31,428 Speaker 4: I mean, I grew up watching John Gruden just scream 294 00:12:31,508 --> 00:12:33,188 Speaker 4: at guys. I mean, you can still pull up video 295 00:12:33,188 --> 00:12:35,228 Speaker 4: of Chris Sim's coming to the league and Gruden is 296 00:12:35,348 --> 00:12:39,108 Speaker 4: wearing him out. Chris Sims, huge college guy. It's the 297 00:12:39,228 --> 00:12:41,068 Speaker 4: son of the famous quarterback. He might have needed to 298 00:12:41,108 --> 00:12:43,588 Speaker 4: be brought down like that Bill Parcell, same thing. But 299 00:12:43,668 --> 00:12:45,428 Speaker 4: I still think there's a place for that. I think 300 00:12:45,428 --> 00:12:47,388 Speaker 4: there's a place for what Flora's did. I don't think 301 00:12:47,428 --> 00:12:50,148 Speaker 4: it's it's obsolete. I don't think that Flores is some 302 00:12:50,228 --> 00:12:52,668 Speaker 4: sort of villain for doing that, though I think he 303 00:12:52,788 --> 00:12:55,348 Speaker 4: might have picked the wrong target. Brian Flores gave the 304 00:12:55,388 --> 00:12:57,788 Speaker 4: Dolphins back to back winning seasons for the first time 305 00:12:57,828 --> 00:12:58,948 Speaker 4: in about twenty years. 306 00:12:59,268 --> 00:13:01,268 Speaker 2: Like he did not fall on his face there. 307 00:13:01,388 --> 00:13:03,388 Speaker 4: It wasn't a match with two and it sounds like 308 00:13:03,428 --> 00:13:04,868 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel is there. 309 00:13:05,428 --> 00:13:07,148 Speaker 6: I was just going to say there is a shift 310 00:13:07,188 --> 00:13:10,148 Speaker 6: though in generations. I've seen that even when I came in, 311 00:13:10,548 --> 00:13:14,428 Speaker 6: you know, to the prior generation. Just generations do change, 312 00:13:14,428 --> 00:13:16,668 Speaker 6: and changes doesn't necessarily mean this bet. 313 00:13:17,628 --> 00:13:20,108 Speaker 3: To speak to the match I think between Brian Flores 314 00:13:20,148 --> 00:13:23,308 Speaker 3: and Tua. I covered all of Tua's college games at 315 00:13:23,308 --> 00:13:26,108 Speaker 3: Alabama in my four years on the SEC, two of 316 00:13:26,148 --> 00:13:29,948 Speaker 3: which were Alabama's prime years with Tua, And I know 317 00:13:29,988 --> 00:13:31,508 Speaker 3: there's a lot of prime years, but it was two 318 00:13:31,668 --> 00:13:34,708 Speaker 3: was two years starting there. Nick Saban does not mince 319 00:13:34,748 --> 00:13:36,628 Speaker 3: words when it comes to Nick Saban is one of 320 00:13:36,668 --> 00:13:39,948 Speaker 3: the hardest coaches to watch at practice, but he had 321 00:13:39,988 --> 00:13:42,668 Speaker 3: a soft spot for Tua. I think Nick Saban has 322 00:13:42,708 --> 00:13:44,948 Speaker 3: the awareness that and there's more than fifty three guys 323 00:13:44,948 --> 00:13:47,708 Speaker 3: on the college rosters at times, so Nick Saban looks 324 00:13:47,708 --> 00:13:50,668 Speaker 3: at one hundred plus guys and maybe he addresses position 325 00:13:50,748 --> 00:13:54,828 Speaker 3: groups differently. But for some reason in his time in Tua, 326 00:13:55,268 --> 00:13:59,588 Speaker 3: he spoke not as intensely with other people there. There 327 00:13:59,628 --> 00:14:02,468 Speaker 3: was a maturation there, there was a level of intelligence there. 328 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:05,148 Speaker 3: The way that coach Shaban communicated with Tua an assignment 329 00:14:05,188 --> 00:14:07,468 Speaker 3: college does not sound like by the way of how 330 00:14:07,508 --> 00:14:11,308 Speaker 3: Brian Flores went. That being said, Tua tung of Violoa 331 00:14:11,868 --> 00:14:15,388 Speaker 3: has a father that is very present in his football journey. 332 00:14:15,468 --> 00:14:16,308 Speaker 5: Because we also know. 333 00:14:16,348 --> 00:14:19,948 Speaker 3: Taulea Tungo Violoa who's going through Maryland now. The Tongue 334 00:14:19,948 --> 00:14:23,948 Speaker 3: of Ioloa patriarch is a very intense individual in these 335 00:14:23,948 --> 00:14:25,788 Speaker 3: young men's lives and they speak on this a lot, 336 00:14:25,828 --> 00:14:30,868 Speaker 3: so Tua is well versed in the wide range of criticism, 337 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:34,468 Speaker 3: emotional intensity, and the fact that this did not line 338 00:14:34,548 --> 00:14:37,228 Speaker 3: up with Brian Flora is to me all I hear is, Wow, 339 00:14:37,628 --> 00:14:40,188 Speaker 3: that was really to attend in terms of tuas scale. 340 00:14:40,788 --> 00:14:43,588 Speaker 3: And I'm not faulting Brian Flores even though he is 341 00:14:43,708 --> 00:14:47,308 Speaker 3: generationally the same age ish as Mike McDaniel, he comes 342 00:14:47,308 --> 00:14:49,628 Speaker 3: from a different tree and I think in terms of 343 00:14:49,788 --> 00:14:52,748 Speaker 3: that might work defensively, it doesn't work for a subrebral 344 00:14:52,828 --> 00:14:55,948 Speaker 3: young man talented as Tua is. That clearly was not 345 00:14:56,028 --> 00:14:58,308 Speaker 3: the match. And I too appreciate too for coming out 346 00:14:58,348 --> 00:15:00,628 Speaker 3: and saying it, because I think it allows other players 347 00:15:00,668 --> 00:15:02,628 Speaker 3: to say this doesn't work for me, and frankly hopeing it. 348 00:15:02,708 --> 00:15:05,148 Speaker 3: Hopefully it opens the eyes to other coach. But you're 349 00:15:05,228 --> 00:15:07,108 Speaker 3: right to touch on all the coaches that Tua has 350 00:15:07,108 --> 00:15:09,188 Speaker 3: had and the fact that Mike McDaniel I remember saying 351 00:15:09,188 --> 00:15:10,908 Speaker 3: that he got there and he just wanted. 352 00:15:10,708 --> 00:15:11,588 Speaker 2: To give to you a big hug. 353 00:15:11,748 --> 00:15:13,868 Speaker 3: Remember that it was early on he said that to him. 354 00:15:13,948 --> 00:15:16,348 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've heard it stories for years that like 355 00:15:16,828 --> 00:15:19,508 Speaker 4: Belichick would annihilate Brady like and doing it in front 356 00:15:19,548 --> 00:15:19,988 Speaker 4: of the team. 357 00:15:20,268 --> 00:15:21,228 Speaker 2: Brady, what was this throw? 358 00:15:21,548 --> 00:15:23,708 Speaker 4: And this is Brady MVP super Bowl winner, like deep 359 00:15:23,708 --> 00:15:25,228 Speaker 4: in his career, it was just annihilate him. 360 00:15:25,308 --> 00:15:26,988 Speaker 2: There's something that coaches do too, to the. 361 00:15:26,948 --> 00:15:29,788 Speaker 4: Team and to the quarterback to bring them down, especially 362 00:15:29,868 --> 00:15:31,948 Speaker 4: maybe after they have some success or they get paid. 363 00:15:32,308 --> 00:15:34,268 Speaker 4: It sounds to me like Brian flour has just had 364 00:15:34,308 --> 00:15:35,788 Speaker 4: it in him that I'm going to toughen this two 365 00:15:35,948 --> 00:15:37,668 Speaker 4: up by whatever it means possible. And it sounds like 366 00:15:37,708 --> 00:15:40,188 Speaker 4: it was a horrible match and Mike McDaniel's perfect for him. 367 00:15:40,348 --> 00:15:43,588 Speaker 6: You know what, It just took me back to coach Morton, 368 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:47,588 Speaker 6: Chad Morton with the young running back on hard knocks. 369 00:15:48,508 --> 00:15:50,788 Speaker 6: I forget the young kid's name, but he's just on 370 00:15:51,548 --> 00:15:53,428 Speaker 6: top of them, top of them, and then he gives 371 00:15:53,468 --> 00:15:55,948 Speaker 6: them some love. He uses the sandwich effect. He's tough 372 00:15:55,988 --> 00:15:58,148 Speaker 6: on him, then he comes in gives them some love, 373 00:15:58,148 --> 00:15:59,708 Speaker 6: and then he's tough on him at the bottom of 374 00:15:59,788 --> 00:16:02,068 Speaker 6: it as well. So it just really just knowing who 375 00:16:02,068 --> 00:16:03,908 Speaker 6: you are, and you see it looks like he's responding 376 00:16:04,228 --> 00:16:05,548 Speaker 6: very well in that hard nutt. 377 00:16:07,868 --> 00:16:08,868 Speaker 2: All right there. 378 00:16:08,908 --> 00:16:12,868 Speaker 4: It is perfect pair presented by a Sports MVP bundle. 379 00:16:13,068 --> 00:16:15,388 Speaker 4: Why buy one video game when you can get two 380 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:18,428 Speaker 4: in a bundle and to preview that, we go to 381 00:16:18,508 --> 00:16:19,268 Speaker 4: Kansas City. 382 00:16:19,388 --> 00:16:22,228 Speaker 2: We got a new perfect pair. This pair is actually 383 00:16:22,228 --> 00:16:23,028 Speaker 2: a terrifying pair. 384 00:16:23,028 --> 00:16:26,068 Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes to his rookie Xavier Worthy. 385 00:16:26,228 --> 00:16:27,468 Speaker 2: This is the video game version. 386 00:16:27,468 --> 00:16:30,188 Speaker 4: We've seen it a few times in the preseason. It's 387 00:16:30,308 --> 00:16:33,148 Speaker 4: always a bomb twenty thirty yards downfield, and then you 388 00:16:33,148 --> 00:16:36,028 Speaker 4: get the option to dance or customize. Oh no, is 389 00:16:36,028 --> 00:16:37,668 Speaker 4: he the most terrifying player in league? I'm not even 390 00:16:37,668 --> 00:16:39,708 Speaker 4: talking about Home talking about Worthy. That fast on that 391 00:16:39,748 --> 00:16:44,028 Speaker 4: team really really exciting. 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Oh yeah, 400 00:16:55,428 --> 00:16:57,428 Speaker 2: we play Madden and like he has a hard time 401 00:16:57,468 --> 00:16:57,828 Speaker 2: against me. 402 00:16:58,028 --> 00:16:59,588 Speaker 5: Okay. 403 00:16:59,428 --> 00:17:01,668 Speaker 3: My husband works from home now since we moved to 404 00:17:01,668 --> 00:17:03,748 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and like all your voices in his office 405 00:17:03,788 --> 00:17:05,228 Speaker 3: and I'll be like, oh, he's probably on a call, 406 00:17:05,228 --> 00:17:06,228 Speaker 3: but I got to go in there and talk to 407 00:17:06,308 --> 00:17:08,428 Speaker 3: about something. So I'll knock and I'll put my head 408 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:11,388 Speaker 3: in and he's like doing work, and I'm like, what's 409 00:17:11,468 --> 00:17:16,108 Speaker 3: going on? And he's playing maddening mad while getting work done. 410 00:17:16,188 --> 00:17:18,868 Speaker 3: Shout out to his company for allowing him to do that. 411 00:17:19,228 --> 00:17:21,908 Speaker 3: So that play and Madden taking places in one of 412 00:17:21,908 --> 00:17:24,348 Speaker 3: the loudest venues in the NFL. If you've been to 413 00:17:24,468 --> 00:17:28,468 Speaker 3: Arrowhead Stadium, you know, So here's the question. You all 414 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:31,628 Speaker 3: must have been at a sporting event that you felt 415 00:17:31,708 --> 00:17:34,348 Speaker 3: the stadium arena shake and maybe awkward if you're luck 416 00:17:34,388 --> 00:17:37,148 Speaker 3: enough you played in one, But do you have a 417 00:17:37,188 --> 00:17:37,988 Speaker 3: recent memory of this? 418 00:17:38,548 --> 00:17:41,428 Speaker 6: One is Arrowhead Stadium? Where you know, being in the 419 00:17:41,428 --> 00:17:44,108 Speaker 6: AFC West and you go to Arrowhead Stadium. 420 00:17:43,788 --> 00:17:45,388 Speaker 5: Still one of my places. 421 00:17:45,428 --> 00:17:47,508 Speaker 6: I hate it playing just I mean, you could feel 422 00:17:47,548 --> 00:17:49,828 Speaker 6: the energy, you could feel it in your chest. You 423 00:17:49,868 --> 00:17:54,948 Speaker 6: can feel the field rumbling. But mine was going to 424 00:17:55,188 --> 00:17:59,268 Speaker 6: a soccer match overseas and I just have never seen 425 00:17:59,348 --> 00:18:01,988 Speaker 6: like literally I thought it was an earthquake and you're 426 00:18:02,028 --> 00:18:04,868 Speaker 6: just like they're all jumping the entire thing. It's like, yo, 427 00:18:05,268 --> 00:18:08,308 Speaker 6: I don't think this is structurally say, I guess it's 428 00:18:08,348 --> 00:18:10,868 Speaker 6: like like I think we should leave because at some 429 00:18:10,908 --> 00:18:14,348 Speaker 6: point the stadium is going to crumble. That's the wildest 430 00:18:14,348 --> 00:18:17,268 Speaker 6: thing if but NFL stadium ever got like that. Actually, 431 00:18:17,308 --> 00:18:21,548 Speaker 6: there was one close to that, LAFC here in Los Angeles. 432 00:18:21,988 --> 00:18:24,668 Speaker 6: They do the same type of nonsense where just the 433 00:18:24,868 --> 00:18:28,428 Speaker 6: entire game they're just jumping. Soccer is nuts like this. Yes, 434 00:18:28,548 --> 00:18:29,388 Speaker 6: now you we. 435 00:18:29,348 --> 00:18:30,868 Speaker 2: Always hear about Arrowhead. 436 00:18:30,908 --> 00:18:33,068 Speaker 4: It's different. It's different. Like all the stadiums are loud. 437 00:18:33,108 --> 00:18:35,108 Speaker 4: It depends on a certain level of loud. And Seattle 438 00:18:35,148 --> 00:18:37,068 Speaker 4: says they're the loudest. Kansas City says they are. 439 00:18:37,588 --> 00:18:40,188 Speaker 2: Is it that different from other places? 440 00:18:40,788 --> 00:18:41,588 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. 441 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:44,708 Speaker 6: When you can it, I will tell you how crazy 442 00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:47,788 Speaker 6: it is. And this sets the tone when they're singing 443 00:18:47,828 --> 00:18:50,268 Speaker 6: the national anthem. I'll never forget the very first time 444 00:18:50,268 --> 00:18:52,868 Speaker 6: I had heard it, and they're going and the home Man, 445 00:18:52,908 --> 00:18:55,508 Speaker 6: I'm doing the little the athlete wave, you know, the 446 00:18:55,588 --> 00:18:58,148 Speaker 6: like the swaying like this, and you're just getting into 447 00:18:58,188 --> 00:19:02,268 Speaker 6: your emotions and the home of the and then they 448 00:19:02,268 --> 00:19:05,548 Speaker 6: all go sees, God is my witness. 449 00:19:05,668 --> 00:19:08,428 Speaker 5: It just like it's like a base that just goes 450 00:19:08,428 --> 00:19:12,268 Speaker 5: through your like, wow, what happens. It's like a force 451 00:19:12,308 --> 00:19:13,868 Speaker 5: that goes through you. It's weird. 452 00:19:14,228 --> 00:19:17,068 Speaker 6: Likes any player, they'll tell you it is weird when 453 00:19:17,068 --> 00:19:19,188 Speaker 6: you hear that. And that's like if they're that loud 454 00:19:19,228 --> 00:19:21,988 Speaker 6: from just saying cheeze, yeah, imagine when they're screaming at 455 00:19:22,028 --> 00:19:23,468 Speaker 6: a different level, decibel level. 456 00:19:23,628 --> 00:19:24,108 Speaker 2: That's cool. 457 00:19:24,228 --> 00:19:28,868 Speaker 3: Arrowhead regular season game, I've done amazing night game at 458 00:19:28,988 --> 00:19:33,748 Speaker 3: lsu A Death Valley, amazing. But I take you to 459 00:19:33,828 --> 00:19:37,388 Speaker 3: Original six Playoff hockey for my answer. My one season 460 00:19:37,548 --> 00:19:40,268 Speaker 3: covering the Boston Bruins back in twenty fourteen. They had 461 00:19:40,308 --> 00:19:42,748 Speaker 3: just come off of Stanley Cup. They're trying to go 462 00:19:42,828 --> 00:19:45,828 Speaker 3: back to back Stanley Cup champions. They have the most 463 00:19:45,868 --> 00:19:48,148 Speaker 3: wins in the regular season. They go back to back 464 00:19:48,228 --> 00:19:50,948 Speaker 3: Original six playoff teams. We go to Detroit for the 465 00:19:50,948 --> 00:19:53,988 Speaker 3: first round, then to Montreal for the second round. Goes 466 00:19:54,028 --> 00:19:57,948 Speaker 3: to game seven, the French national anthem, Game seven against 467 00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:01,428 Speaker 3: the Habs between Bruins and Montreal. I thought, and this 468 00:20:01,548 --> 00:20:03,788 Speaker 3: wasn't even when the game was being played, it was 469 00:20:03,828 --> 00:20:08,068 Speaker 3: when the national anthem in French was being sung, the 470 00:20:08,108 --> 00:20:12,148 Speaker 3: whole building shook. It was insane and like I am 471 00:20:12,188 --> 00:20:15,428 Speaker 3: classically trained on football college, bast march das the loudest 472 00:20:15,428 --> 00:20:18,828 Speaker 3: arena I have ever been is original six playoff hockey playoffs? 473 00:20:19,188 --> 00:20:20,948 Speaker 2: Is that crazy? Both of you guys in national anthem? 474 00:20:20,988 --> 00:20:23,588 Speaker 2: Was the moments like that it hit for you. I've 475 00:20:23,588 --> 00:20:25,388 Speaker 2: been to some unbelievable sporting events. 476 00:20:25,388 --> 00:20:28,588 Speaker 4: I was at the Miracle in the Meadowlands, the overtime 477 00:20:28,588 --> 00:20:31,108 Speaker 4: game in two thousand when Jumbo Elliott cought touched on pass, 478 00:20:31,108 --> 00:20:31,548 Speaker 4: but it was. 479 00:20:31,468 --> 00:20:32,948 Speaker 2: Freezing and it was late. It wasn't that Loud. 480 00:20:33,228 --> 00:20:34,828 Speaker 4: I was at the Bears, who we thought they were 481 00:20:34,828 --> 00:20:36,628 Speaker 4: a game and Devon Paster against the Cardinals, but that 482 00:20:36,668 --> 00:20:38,668 Speaker 4: was on the road. It wasn't that loud I won 483 00:20:38,668 --> 00:20:41,588 Speaker 4: the sports Fan Powerball, like in life that I grew 484 00:20:41,668 --> 00:20:43,828 Speaker 4: up in Chicago in the early nineties as a little 485 00:20:43,908 --> 00:20:45,588 Speaker 4: kid in the Chicagoland area, so I got to go 486 00:20:45,668 --> 00:20:48,068 Speaker 4: occasionally to Bulls games, and I would go to Knicks 487 00:20:48,068 --> 00:20:50,068 Speaker 4: games all the time when the Knicks would come into town. 488 00:20:50,308 --> 00:20:52,588 Speaker 4: And it's everything you saw from afar If living in 489 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:55,068 Speaker 4: Chicago with the Bulls intro the song sixty six from 490 00:20:55,108 --> 00:20:58,188 Speaker 4: North Carolina. But just inevitably as he just blows by 491 00:20:58,268 --> 00:21:01,108 Speaker 4: John Starks like as any player who was a Hall 492 00:21:01,148 --> 00:21:03,108 Speaker 4: of Famer and has respected and as tall as he 493 00:21:03,148 --> 00:21:03,668 Speaker 4: has ever. 494 00:21:03,588 --> 00:21:06,188 Speaker 2: Been dunked on more than Patrick Ewing in history. 495 00:21:06,548 --> 00:21:09,108 Speaker 4: I love Pat, I respect him like he would get 496 00:21:09,148 --> 00:21:10,388 Speaker 4: dunked on every. 497 00:21:10,108 --> 00:21:11,428 Speaker 2: Five seconds in those games. 498 00:21:11,468 --> 00:21:13,788 Speaker 4: Scotty would get him, Michael would get him. 499 00:21:13,828 --> 00:21:15,028 Speaker 2: Horace Grant would get him. 500 00:21:15,028 --> 00:21:16,788 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm telling you, I Bill Carry I was dunking 501 00:21:16,828 --> 00:21:19,708 Speaker 4: on him. It was the low points of Patter Ewing's 502 00:21:19,748 --> 00:21:21,828 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame career were in Chicago Stadium, not the 503 00:21:21,908 --> 00:21:25,068 Speaker 4: United Center for the second three Pete the og crazy 504 00:21:25,188 --> 00:21:28,228 Speaker 4: Chicago Stadium before Michael's retirement. I would go there at 505 00:21:28,268 --> 00:21:30,908 Speaker 4: eleven years old, and it was crazy in nineteen ninety 506 00:21:30,908 --> 00:21:32,948 Speaker 4: one to do something called the Fano meter, which is. 507 00:21:32,948 --> 00:21:33,508 Speaker 2: Now at everything. 508 00:21:33,668 --> 00:21:36,108 Speaker 4: Was like get louder fans, and the fans aren'tetting louder, 509 00:21:36,108 --> 00:21:38,108 Speaker 4: but it goes up anyway. They would bury the needle 510 00:21:38,148 --> 00:21:40,108 Speaker 4: on that sucker and I'd be screaming, and I'd love 511 00:21:40,148 --> 00:21:42,708 Speaker 4: the mascot, I love the cheerleader of the whole experience. 512 00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:45,348 Speaker 4: But Michael Jordan's sit there and Youn's just getting dunked 513 00:21:45,348 --> 00:21:48,108 Speaker 4: on every twelve seconds. It was the fantastic Chicago Stadium, 514 00:21:48,268 --> 00:21:49,388 Speaker 4: best sports moments of my life. 515 00:21:49,468 --> 00:21:51,788 Speaker 6: I would do anything I know if I could to 516 00:21:51,908 --> 00:21:53,508 Speaker 6: trade to go back. 517 00:21:53,308 --> 00:21:56,388 Speaker 5: And just sit so that it was amazing as general. Yeah, 518 00:21:56,388 --> 00:21:58,348 Speaker 5: I would do anything to sit in that time. 519 00:21:58,828 --> 00:21:59,028 Speaker 8: Yeah. 520 00:21:59,148 --> 00:22:00,348 Speaker 5: What was the name of the stadium a game? 521 00:22:00,468 --> 00:22:01,348 Speaker 2: Chicago Stadium. 522 00:22:01,868 --> 00:22:04,468 Speaker 4: It wasn't one I was like, it wasn't sponsored by 523 00:22:04,268 --> 00:22:06,108 Speaker 4: a corporasion or airlines. 524 00:22:06,108 --> 00:22:07,268 Speaker 2: It was just Chicago Stadium. 525 00:22:07,508 --> 00:22:11,308 Speaker 3: Time to bring in our front office analyst, Scott Pioli. Scot, 526 00:22:11,628 --> 00:22:15,188 Speaker 3: you have had many different backdrops behind you recently, and 527 00:22:15,228 --> 00:22:17,068 Speaker 3: now you look like you are back to the comforts 528 00:22:17,068 --> 00:22:17,548 Speaker 3: of your home. 529 00:22:19,388 --> 00:22:22,148 Speaker 8: Yes, finally home. Thank goodness, Jamie, it's good to be 530 00:22:22,188 --> 00:22:22,668 Speaker 8: back home. 531 00:22:22,908 --> 00:22:25,268 Speaker 3: We all know that people appreciate you when you show 532 00:22:25,348 --> 00:22:27,708 Speaker 3: up on the scene. We do too, because then you 533 00:22:27,708 --> 00:22:31,588 Speaker 3: get firsthand look at players and organizations and coaches. Let's 534 00:22:31,588 --> 00:22:34,148 Speaker 3: go to Chicago this past weekend. You were there up 535 00:22:34,188 --> 00:22:37,108 Speaker 3: close and personal. We can't get enough of Caleb Williams 536 00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:39,788 Speaker 3: and what people the eye test, what people see from him. 537 00:22:39,788 --> 00:22:42,788 Speaker 3: How do you characterize how his preseason is going. 538 00:22:44,508 --> 00:22:48,468 Speaker 9: Jamie, The word I would use is encouraging and improvement. 539 00:22:48,708 --> 00:22:52,588 Speaker 9: So he's what we've seen from him is steady improvement 540 00:22:52,748 --> 00:22:56,028 Speaker 9: every single week in the games. He's learning from some 541 00:22:56,068 --> 00:22:58,468 Speaker 9: of the mistakes that he's making. He's getting better on 542 00:22:58,468 --> 00:22:59,428 Speaker 9: his details. 543 00:22:59,668 --> 00:23:00,748 Speaker 8: You know. The other thing I'm. 544 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:03,628 Speaker 9: Seeing is he's getting better with his chemistry along with 545 00:23:03,708 --> 00:23:07,028 Speaker 9: the skilled players and the rest of his teammates. The 546 00:23:07,108 --> 00:23:08,708 Speaker 9: big thing that I've seen though, I think is his 547 00:23:08,788 --> 00:23:12,428 Speaker 9: ability to process what he's seeing. That has certainly improved 548 00:23:12,468 --> 00:23:14,868 Speaker 9: each week. But one of the little detail that I 549 00:23:14,868 --> 00:23:16,508 Speaker 9: really like to see and that I heard a little 550 00:23:16,508 --> 00:23:18,628 Speaker 9: bit about while I was out there, is that he's 551 00:23:18,668 --> 00:23:19,748 Speaker 9: getting better. 552 00:23:19,548 --> 00:23:21,268 Speaker 8: In understanding the running game. 553 00:23:21,548 --> 00:23:24,228 Speaker 9: And this is something that isn't often talked about with 554 00:23:24,388 --> 00:23:25,308 Speaker 9: young quarterbacks. 555 00:23:25,308 --> 00:23:26,428 Speaker 8: They come into the NFL. 556 00:23:26,508 --> 00:23:28,548 Speaker 9: They know the passing game, they know a lot about 557 00:23:28,588 --> 00:23:31,628 Speaker 9: the passing game, but they don't fully understand the running 558 00:23:31,668 --> 00:23:33,748 Speaker 9: game or the importance of the running game and when 559 00:23:33,748 --> 00:23:36,548 Speaker 9: they see certain looks when they need to check out. 560 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:38,668 Speaker 9: So again, to me, what I see in terms of 561 00:23:38,868 --> 00:23:42,668 Speaker 9: talking about Caleb Williams is just so much encouraging work 562 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:44,748 Speaker 9: that he's been doing over the course of these couple 563 00:23:44,748 --> 00:23:45,588 Speaker 9: of preseason games. 564 00:23:45,588 --> 00:23:47,948 Speaker 4: We'd love to hear it. Tell us more, Scott. You've 565 00:23:47,988 --> 00:23:50,948 Speaker 4: seen so many rookie quarterbacks come in. You've seen number 566 00:23:50,988 --> 00:23:53,428 Speaker 4: one overall picks, You've seen Heisman you've seen it all. 567 00:23:54,588 --> 00:23:57,468 Speaker 4: Another guy who will likely have a very successful career 568 00:23:58,108 --> 00:23:59,548 Speaker 4: or something special. 569 00:23:59,788 --> 00:24:00,388 Speaker 2: Tell us more. 570 00:24:02,388 --> 00:24:04,868 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think what I saw Kyle in being able 571 00:24:04,868 --> 00:24:06,708 Speaker 9: to see practice for a couple of days before the 572 00:24:06,748 --> 00:24:09,388 Speaker 9: preseason game, I saw them do the full scrimmage with 573 00:24:09,428 --> 00:24:13,748 Speaker 9: the Bengals. It was the on field communication and coming 574 00:24:13,828 --> 00:24:16,148 Speaker 9: off the field with Shane Waldron when they were working 575 00:24:16,228 --> 00:24:19,788 Speaker 9: the two minute drill. His professional maturity was just so impressive. 576 00:24:20,068 --> 00:24:21,748 Speaker 9: But as we're seeing here, one of the things that 577 00:24:21,788 --> 00:24:24,428 Speaker 9: we're seeing on tape here is him moving in and 578 00:24:24,468 --> 00:24:27,468 Speaker 9: out of the pocket with both hands on the football. 579 00:24:27,748 --> 00:24:29,748 Speaker 9: And people want to talk about the throws and all 580 00:24:29,788 --> 00:24:31,548 Speaker 9: the special things he's doing athletically. 581 00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:33,468 Speaker 8: That's very, very important. 582 00:24:33,628 --> 00:24:35,548 Speaker 9: But if you remember, one of the things with Caleb 583 00:24:35,628 --> 00:24:38,908 Speaker 9: that was an issue coming out was the details of 584 00:24:38,948 --> 00:24:41,388 Speaker 9: his ball security. He had a lot of fumbles, a 585 00:24:41,388 --> 00:24:43,828 Speaker 9: lot of turnovers last year when moving. 586 00:24:43,668 --> 00:24:44,708 Speaker 8: Up in the pocket. 587 00:24:44,948 --> 00:24:46,668 Speaker 9: So as you can see in a lot of these clips, 588 00:24:47,468 --> 00:24:50,388 Speaker 9: he is climbing the pocket with both hands on the ball, 589 00:24:50,548 --> 00:24:53,588 Speaker 9: securing the ball, which is a detail that Shane Waldron 590 00:24:53,708 --> 00:24:56,788 Speaker 9: and the coaches are working on in pre practice and 591 00:24:57,308 --> 00:25:01,028 Speaker 9: also during the scrimmages and everything that's going on. They're 592 00:25:01,068 --> 00:25:04,268 Speaker 9: always on him about the details. So again, it's not 593 00:25:04,548 --> 00:25:06,708 Speaker 9: just about the throws he makes in his athleticism, it's 594 00:25:06,748 --> 00:25:08,828 Speaker 9: the details and securing the football. 595 00:25:09,228 --> 00:25:11,548 Speaker 6: All right, Scott, So you know, let's stay in the NFC. 596 00:25:12,068 --> 00:25:14,468 Speaker 6: This quarterback is not getting a lot of hype. But 597 00:25:15,028 --> 00:25:19,948 Speaker 6: dan Quinn named Jayden Daniels the Commander's starter. You worked 598 00:25:19,988 --> 00:25:22,428 Speaker 6: with Jayden the last two years. What do you think 599 00:25:22,468 --> 00:25:23,228 Speaker 6: of this decision? 600 00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:28,668 Speaker 9: Bar I'm totally fine with this decision because if we 601 00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:30,388 Speaker 9: go back and look, he's going to be twenty four 602 00:25:30,468 --> 00:25:33,948 Speaker 9: years old this NFL season, but he's also had five 603 00:25:34,108 --> 00:25:36,948 Speaker 9: years as a starter in college, three at Arizona State. 604 00:25:37,068 --> 00:25:40,348 Speaker 9: Sure there was the shortened season with COVID, but he 605 00:25:40,428 --> 00:25:42,668 Speaker 9: has had a lot of reps. He's had him again, 606 00:25:42,788 --> 00:25:45,828 Speaker 9: three years at Arizona State, two years in the SEC. 607 00:25:46,628 --> 00:25:49,468 Speaker 9: What I've seen with Jaden during the time at LSU 608 00:25:49,708 --> 00:25:51,868 Speaker 9: and in training camp when I was down there this year, 609 00:25:52,148 --> 00:25:57,468 Speaker 9: he has a rare maturity, intelligence, work ethic, and work habits. 610 00:25:57,628 --> 00:25:59,508 Speaker 9: And while I was down there, you could see those 611 00:25:59,548 --> 00:26:02,548 Speaker 9: things in practice. You could see him getting better again. 612 00:26:02,868 --> 00:26:06,508 Speaker 9: He has improved so significantly during those last two years 613 00:26:06,508 --> 00:26:09,468 Speaker 9: at Lsu. As you watch the arc of his improvement, 614 00:26:09,788 --> 00:26:12,388 Speaker 9: it has just continued. And I'll say this about Dan Quinn. 615 00:26:12,428 --> 00:26:14,628 Speaker 9: I worked with him in Atlanta. Dan is never going 616 00:26:14,668 --> 00:26:17,468 Speaker 9: to put a football player out there, including his quarterback, 617 00:26:17,708 --> 00:26:21,068 Speaker 9: that isn't ready, that he doesn't think can win him 618 00:26:21,108 --> 00:26:25,268 Speaker 9: games or can't protect himself. So I'm totally on with this, 619 00:26:25,588 --> 00:26:27,748 Speaker 9: and I can't wait to see Jayden played because he's 620 00:26:27,828 --> 00:26:30,308 Speaker 9: absolutely one of my favorite players. 621 00:26:29,948 --> 00:26:30,948 Speaker 8: In the league right now. 622 00:26:31,148 --> 00:26:34,148 Speaker 3: Scott, this is a true story. On August fourth, This 623 00:26:34,188 --> 00:26:36,468 Speaker 3: is my phone. This is the notes app of my phone. 624 00:26:36,668 --> 00:26:38,388 Speaker 3: You guys, I have something I wrote to myself. I'm 625 00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:40,228 Speaker 3: sitting in the makeup chair before the show, and it 626 00:26:40,228 --> 00:26:43,548 Speaker 3: says Ian and Pioli with Jacoby Brissett on wanting to 627 00:26:43,588 --> 00:26:45,668 Speaker 3: win a starting job. I'm just writing this because it's 628 00:26:45,748 --> 00:26:48,228 Speaker 3: airing and I thought it was very interesting. Brissette says, 629 00:26:48,628 --> 00:26:51,468 Speaker 3: I am the perfect mentor, but I'm also the perfect 630 00:26:51,508 --> 00:26:54,628 Speaker 3: player for the starting job. I don't take that lightly. 631 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:57,388 Speaker 3: And then I wrote, remember this, if Jacoby beats out 632 00:26:57,428 --> 00:26:59,388 Speaker 3: Drake may to start this season. We still don't know 633 00:26:59,388 --> 00:27:00,748 Speaker 3: the answer to this question, Scott. 634 00:27:00,788 --> 00:27:03,828 Speaker 2: That was on August fourth. How do you assess what is. 635 00:27:03,788 --> 00:27:06,388 Speaker 3: Happening with the quarterback position in New England right now. 636 00:27:07,868 --> 00:27:10,348 Speaker 9: Jamie, I love that you wrote that note because I 637 00:27:10,388 --> 00:27:12,428 Speaker 9: have it sitting here in front of me my notes 638 00:27:12,508 --> 00:27:15,028 Speaker 9: now I don't have to look down. But when Jacoby 639 00:27:15,108 --> 00:27:17,948 Speaker 9: said that in that interview, it was perfect because it 640 00:27:17,988 --> 00:27:19,108 Speaker 9: describes Jacoby. 641 00:27:19,868 --> 00:27:21,588 Speaker 8: I've known Jacoby. 642 00:27:21,108 --> 00:27:23,148 Speaker 9: Forever since he entered the league, and as a matter 643 00:27:23,148 --> 00:27:25,148 Speaker 9: of fact, my father in law is one of his 644 00:27:25,268 --> 00:27:29,188 Speaker 9: mentors since he was in middle school. The thing about Jacoby, 645 00:27:29,228 --> 00:27:32,508 Speaker 9: what he was saying there was I can be both things. 646 00:27:32,588 --> 00:27:35,588 Speaker 9: You can be a competitor, you can compete, you can 647 00:27:35,908 --> 00:27:38,748 Speaker 9: do all of those things with a player, but also 648 00:27:38,828 --> 00:27:41,028 Speaker 9: be their mentor. And this is one of the things 649 00:27:41,108 --> 00:27:44,228 Speaker 9: that I think is so underrated about Jacoby and players 650 00:27:44,388 --> 00:27:44,948 Speaker 9: like him. 651 00:27:45,348 --> 00:27:46,068 Speaker 8: In this game. 652 00:27:46,268 --> 00:27:49,468 Speaker 9: You need selfless players that are not only going to 653 00:27:49,468 --> 00:27:53,908 Speaker 9: compete for jobs, but teach the future, teach players that 654 00:27:53,948 --> 00:27:56,828 Speaker 9: are younger than that are competing for their jobs, and 655 00:27:56,988 --> 00:28:00,308 Speaker 9: really mentor them so knowing that that's going to be 656 00:28:00,388 --> 00:28:01,268 Speaker 9: their true legacy. 657 00:28:01,468 --> 00:28:02,788 Speaker 8: So when Jacoby said. 658 00:28:02,548 --> 00:28:04,748 Speaker 9: That, he says, Hey, I'm the perfect guy, as you 659 00:28:04,868 --> 00:28:07,268 Speaker 9: just mentioned, because I'm going to compete, I'm going to 660 00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:08,148 Speaker 9: show my teammates. 661 00:28:08,148 --> 00:28:10,228 Speaker 8: I'm competing, but I'm not giving this up. 662 00:28:10,388 --> 00:28:13,708 Speaker 9: He has a personal core value that I think is 663 00:28:13,708 --> 00:28:17,628 Speaker 9: one of the most important and uncommon traits of a 664 00:28:17,668 --> 00:28:19,828 Speaker 9: player in the National Football League, and that is being 665 00:28:19,868 --> 00:28:22,148 Speaker 9: a selfless leader. I have tremendous I'm so glad that 666 00:28:22,188 --> 00:28:24,268 Speaker 9: you brought that up, Jamie, because that's where I wanted 667 00:28:24,308 --> 00:28:24,668 Speaker 9: to head. 668 00:28:24,948 --> 00:28:26,388 Speaker 8: I'm not surprised he said it. 669 00:28:26,628 --> 00:28:29,068 Speaker 9: He is going to compete and again, in this league 670 00:28:29,148 --> 00:28:31,348 Speaker 9: and in life, you can be both things. 671 00:28:31,388 --> 00:28:33,908 Speaker 8: You can be a competitor and a mentor. 672 00:28:34,908 --> 00:28:38,628 Speaker 3: Scott, I'm sorry, did I catch a Your father in 673 00:28:38,708 --> 00:28:41,508 Speaker 3: law was his mentor since middle school. I need to 674 00:28:41,508 --> 00:28:43,108 Speaker 3: know the middle school and I need to know how 675 00:28:43,188 --> 00:28:45,428 Speaker 3: this connection and how that developed. 676 00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:51,268 Speaker 9: So Parcells lives down in Florida, and he was close 677 00:28:51,308 --> 00:28:54,428 Speaker 9: friends with his high school coach, a gentleman by the 678 00:28:54,508 --> 00:28:58,148 Speaker 9: name of Jack Daniels at Dwyer High School down in Florida, 679 00:28:58,428 --> 00:29:01,268 Speaker 9: and Parcells was very close with Jack Daniels. Not the 680 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,628 Speaker 9: Jack Daniels that I knew in college, but the Jack 681 00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:09,788 Speaker 9: Daniels actually coached high school football, and so Parcels got 682 00:29:09,788 --> 00:29:12,388 Speaker 9: to know him. And he's actually not only been a 683 00:29:12,428 --> 00:29:17,308 Speaker 9: life mentor, but a financial advisor of sorts, just helping 684 00:29:17,908 --> 00:29:20,628 Speaker 9: you know, Jacoby grow up and understand what his future 685 00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:22,588 Speaker 9: is going to be. And they're still like this. 686 00:29:22,748 --> 00:29:24,788 Speaker 6: You think Drake May wins that. I'm just asking you 687 00:29:24,828 --> 00:29:27,908 Speaker 6: straight if you think Drake may Drake May wins that competition. 688 00:29:28,028 --> 00:29:28,348 Speaker 8: Hmm. 689 00:29:29,348 --> 00:29:31,588 Speaker 9: I don't know if he does, because I know and 690 00:29:31,588 --> 00:29:33,508 Speaker 9: it's not a matter of just winning the job, but 691 00:29:33,548 --> 00:29:36,588 Speaker 9: I think it's also a matter of can he run 692 00:29:36,628 --> 00:29:39,468 Speaker 9: the offense and can he be ready and have the 693 00:29:39,508 --> 00:29:42,388 Speaker 9: offensive line because let's remember this offensive line. Part of 694 00:29:42,428 --> 00:29:44,388 Speaker 9: what's going to take is not just the skill which 695 00:29:44,388 --> 00:29:46,668 Speaker 9: is somewhat limited right now, but it's also going to 696 00:29:46,708 --> 00:29:49,188 Speaker 9: take play calling and adjusting and checking at the line 697 00:29:49,188 --> 00:29:51,948 Speaker 9: of scrimmage. Is Drake ready to do all of that? 698 00:29:52,508 --> 00:29:55,348 Speaker 9: Meeting the mental part in the moment, I don't know. 699 00:29:55,428 --> 00:29:57,988 Speaker 9: So it's always it's not always physical. I think it 700 00:29:58,028 --> 00:30:00,708 Speaker 9: also has something to do with the mental part that 701 00:30:00,748 --> 00:30:02,988 Speaker 9: we don't know and we don't see. Only the coaches 702 00:30:02,988 --> 00:30:05,628 Speaker 9: can evaluate. But I I think that there's a chance. 703 00:30:05,868 --> 00:30:08,148 Speaker 9: I think we're going to see both quarterbacks at different 704 00:30:08,188 --> 00:30:09,788 Speaker 9: points this season, truthfully, all. 705 00:30:09,788 --> 00:30:12,268 Speaker 3: Right, Scott, and coming from you, that's good to know 706 00:30:12,268 --> 00:30:14,348 Speaker 3: that there might be balanced. There always a fun exercise 707 00:30:14,428 --> 00:30:17,388 Speaker 3: forcing Scott to say my father in law and then say, sorry, 708 00:30:17,348 --> 00:30:19,788 Speaker 3: your father, you mentioned your father in law. He still 709 00:30:19,828 --> 00:30:20,988 Speaker 3: parcels everybody, okay. 710 00:30:21,788 --> 00:30:23,868 Speaker 4: At head coach Jack Daniels, it was the efference to 711 00:30:23,948 --> 00:30:25,668 Speaker 4: fate Johnny Walker, Scott, come. 712 00:30:25,548 --> 00:30:31,308 Speaker 2: On, team, that's great. 713 00:30:32,868 --> 00:30:36,748 Speaker 6: Where the defense Scott, Greg Goose, Scott. 714 00:30:36,508 --> 00:30:37,388 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 715 00:30:40,388 --> 00:30:43,948 Speaker 3: Farewell twenty twenty four preseason. You wrap up this weekend 716 00:30:44,188 --> 00:30:46,028 Speaker 3: right here on NFL Network. It's where you want to be. 717 00:30:46,108 --> 00:30:48,748 Speaker 3: We have live games. We have eight of them starting 718 00:30:48,748 --> 00:30:52,508 Speaker 3: on Thursday and that Spars Chiefs, Friday doubleheaders starting at 719 00:30:52,468 --> 00:30:56,028 Speaker 3: seven pm Eastern, Jags Foult Fins, forty nine Ers Raiders 720 00:30:56,068 --> 00:30:58,188 Speaker 3: to close things out on Friday night, and then a 721 00:30:58,228 --> 00:31:01,508 Speaker 3: smattering of games throughout the weekend. If you're busy on 722 00:31:01,588 --> 00:31:03,908 Speaker 3: the go, you can also stream all of these things 723 00:31:03,948 --> 00:31:07,188 Speaker 3: on NFL Plus, which I am sure you have by now. 724 00:31:08,228 --> 00:31:12,068 Speaker 3: Justin Herbert, let's talk Herbert. Time for go bigger this 725 00:31:12,148 --> 00:31:14,548 Speaker 3: season by best buy Herbert. 726 00:31:14,668 --> 00:31:15,348 Speaker 2: He wants to be. 727 00:31:15,308 --> 00:31:17,668 Speaker 3: Bigger, he wants to be better, and he really wants 728 00:31:17,668 --> 00:31:19,868 Speaker 3: to return to the practice field, which he did yesterday. 729 00:31:20,468 --> 00:31:23,628 Speaker 3: He had a Planter fascion injury the last few weeks, 730 00:31:23,908 --> 00:31:27,148 Speaker 3: and let's just say his head coach was happy to 731 00:31:27,188 --> 00:31:28,588 Speaker 3: see the quarterback back. 732 00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:34,068 Speaker 5: Well, to have Justin back out there practicing. Great, great. 733 00:31:34,068 --> 00:31:37,468 Speaker 5: I felt like the music should be playing. I haven't thought. 734 00:31:37,468 --> 00:31:40,308 Speaker 8: I felt. I thought I heard music. 735 00:31:42,108 --> 00:31:45,788 Speaker 6: Voices of angels maybe so great, so great? 736 00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:49,708 Speaker 2: I bet I bet it did, Jim. 737 00:31:51,628 --> 00:31:52,228 Speaker 5: Can't you hear it? 738 00:31:52,468 --> 00:31:54,068 Speaker 2: Yes, Jim. 739 00:31:54,148 --> 00:31:56,228 Speaker 3: More about it to me is somebody who if you 740 00:31:56,468 --> 00:31:58,628 Speaker 3: if you wait a beat and you don't, like immediately 741 00:31:58,668 --> 00:32:00,988 Speaker 3: respond to something, he says, he'll just keep filling the air. 742 00:32:01,148 --> 00:32:01,748 Speaker 2: Weird cadence. 743 00:32:01,948 --> 00:32:04,908 Speaker 4: Sure, As I remember our friend Joey and Narrow who 744 00:32:04,908 --> 00:32:07,148 Speaker 4: does impressions, was doing his Nick Saving impression talking to 745 00:32:07,148 --> 00:32:08,348 Speaker 4: Harbaugh and he's. 746 00:32:08,188 --> 00:32:11,828 Speaker 2: Like, have you ever had a normal conversation about anything? Ever? 747 00:32:12,148 --> 00:32:15,988 Speaker 4: Like he doesn't say stock things ever, it's always something unique. 748 00:32:16,388 --> 00:32:17,548 Speaker 4: He could have just said it was great to him 749 00:32:17,588 --> 00:32:18,908 Speaker 4: back out there. You know, he's getting some good raps 750 00:32:18,908 --> 00:32:20,508 Speaker 4: and right for the open. No, it's angels are singing. 751 00:32:20,548 --> 00:32:21,868 Speaker 4: That's why we love him, you know what. 752 00:32:22,508 --> 00:32:24,268 Speaker 5: That's what we need in football. 753 00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:27,388 Speaker 6: We don't have right, Like, like ninety nine percent of 754 00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:30,148 Speaker 6: the coaches are the same. They speak with the same 755 00:32:30,268 --> 00:32:33,628 Speaker 6: cadence they say. They literally string together all of the 756 00:32:33,668 --> 00:32:37,268 Speaker 6: cliches you could ever think of in one sentence, and 757 00:32:37,388 --> 00:32:40,468 Speaker 6: you just get pure Jim Harball. And the truth is, 758 00:32:41,108 --> 00:32:44,748 Speaker 6: that's Jim Haball off camera, that's Jim Harball at home, 759 00:32:44,828 --> 00:32:47,988 Speaker 6: that's Jim Haball at practice, Like that is Jim Harball. 760 00:32:48,028 --> 00:32:50,268 Speaker 5: And I think that's why so many people love him. 761 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:52,908 Speaker 6: That's why the players can relate to him like that's 762 00:32:52,948 --> 00:32:55,388 Speaker 6: funny as hell to just listen to him and say no, no. 763 00:32:55,268 --> 00:32:58,308 Speaker 5: Actually, I actually I think I actually heard angels. 764 00:32:58,308 --> 00:33:00,908 Speaker 4: It's like Jamie says, you gave him a minute, give 765 00:33:00,948 --> 00:33:02,548 Speaker 4: him a little beat. He's going to come in with 766 00:33:02,588 --> 00:33:04,748 Speaker 4: something unusual. He's not just going to stop. He does 767 00:33:04,788 --> 00:33:06,948 Speaker 4: like get almost like amorous about justin Herbert thought, like 768 00:33:06,988 --> 00:33:08,708 Speaker 4: he loves him. I know he took them. He took 769 00:33:08,748 --> 00:33:10,748 Speaker 4: the job because it's great location and a lot of money. 770 00:33:10,748 --> 00:33:12,588 Speaker 4: Like I think it's a huge part of White took 771 00:33:12,588 --> 00:33:15,068 Speaker 4: the job. I think he loves Herbert. When I sat 772 00:33:15,108 --> 00:33:17,348 Speaker 4: down with Hardbo a couple of weeks ago, I asked 773 00:33:17,388 --> 00:33:20,588 Speaker 4: like a pretty straight question about Herbert, like just you know, 774 00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:21,628 Speaker 4: talk about Herbert. 775 00:33:21,948 --> 00:33:25,588 Speaker 2: He's like, man, justin Herbert's jeans are incredible. Like, I'm like, now. 776 00:33:25,508 --> 00:33:27,828 Speaker 4: You're talking about his pants, are you're talking about his genetics. 777 00:33:28,228 --> 00:33:31,548 Speaker 4: He's talking about his genetics. He's got incredible jeans. And 778 00:33:31,588 --> 00:33:33,228 Speaker 4: I was like, that's one way to take a coach 779 00:33:33,348 --> 00:33:34,068 Speaker 4: and that's what we love you. 780 00:33:34,148 --> 00:33:37,668 Speaker 2: But he's infatuated with Herbert. I'm so glad Herbert's back 781 00:33:37,708 --> 00:33:38,228 Speaker 2: out there too. 782 00:33:38,748 --> 00:33:40,708 Speaker 4: That was a huge buzzkill when we saw him in 783 00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:43,708 Speaker 4: that walking boot, because you know, we, certainly me are 784 00:33:43,708 --> 00:33:45,988 Speaker 4: expecting huge things out of the Charges this year. But 785 00:33:45,988 --> 00:33:48,468 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, if Herbert was seriously injured and 786 00:33:48,508 --> 00:33:50,468 Speaker 4: it comes for time for a playoff ten teams to 787 00:33:50,508 --> 00:33:52,428 Speaker 4: be picked by US, I was still going to pick 788 00:33:52,428 --> 00:33:54,348 Speaker 4: the Charges with Easton Stick, I'll still go with the Chargers. 789 00:33:54,348 --> 00:33:55,628 Speaker 4: I still think they're geting a wild card, but not 790 00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:57,308 Speaker 4: alt Herbert. I believe that much. 791 00:33:57,308 --> 00:33:57,708 Speaker 2: On the coach. 792 00:33:57,748 --> 00:33:59,188 Speaker 6: Well, I will say that it is good that he 793 00:33:59,268 --> 00:34:01,308 Speaker 6: is back out there because I was getting a little 794 00:34:01,348 --> 00:34:03,908 Speaker 6: concerned because I still have a lot of hope and 795 00:34:04,428 --> 00:34:06,468 Speaker 6: it feels for the Chargers. But I'm like, you got 796 00:34:06,468 --> 00:34:09,548 Speaker 6: a new offensive system. Now you've got some younger receivers. 797 00:34:09,708 --> 00:34:11,468 Speaker 6: You know, like just trying to make sure he gets 798 00:34:11,468 --> 00:34:13,348 Speaker 6: out there. But that's a heck of have you ever 799 00:34:13,348 --> 00:34:14,148 Speaker 6: had a plan offession? 800 00:34:14,188 --> 00:34:14,268 Speaker 9: Now? 801 00:34:14,308 --> 00:34:16,188 Speaker 2: But I know a lot about it from covering the league. 802 00:34:16,188 --> 00:34:16,948 Speaker 2: It's always bad. 803 00:34:17,028 --> 00:34:19,428 Speaker 4: Oh, it's annoying, but it happened early in camp, a 804 00:34:19,508 --> 00:34:21,468 Speaker 4: couple of weeks of just doing nothing. And if he's 805 00:34:21,468 --> 00:34:23,668 Speaker 4: out there pucking it and make an angel sing, let's 806 00:34:23,668 --> 00:34:24,108 Speaker 4: go babe. 807 00:34:24,268 --> 00:34:25,868 Speaker 3: You know what I kind of want from Justin Herbert. 808 00:34:26,028 --> 00:34:27,748 Speaker 3: I think we're seeing it right now with Tua actually 809 00:34:27,788 --> 00:34:31,468 Speaker 3: the Tua tongue of Ailoa personality wise, and maybe confidence 810 00:34:31,508 --> 00:34:34,428 Speaker 3: in himself and coming out and that we're hearing a 811 00:34:34,428 --> 00:34:35,188 Speaker 3: lot more from Tua. 812 00:34:35,348 --> 00:34:36,988 Speaker 5: I want to hear more from Justin Herbert. 813 00:34:37,148 --> 00:34:39,788 Speaker 3: Maybe he's got this head coach now because Brandon Staley 814 00:34:39,828 --> 00:34:42,828 Speaker 3: before we loved him, he just didn't elicit a lot. 815 00:34:42,948 --> 00:34:45,028 Speaker 3: He didn't draw a lot out of you, in my opinion, 816 00:34:45,068 --> 00:34:47,708 Speaker 3: and Harball, like you want to give Harbaugh something because 817 00:34:47,708 --> 00:34:49,468 Speaker 3: you kind of want him to respond to you. So like, 818 00:34:49,748 --> 00:34:52,988 Speaker 3: maybe we see more from Justin Herbert personality wise on 819 00:34:53,028 --> 00:34:54,348 Speaker 3: the field in interviews. 820 00:34:54,588 --> 00:34:56,548 Speaker 4: I really like that he picks the spots he said. 821 00:34:56,548 --> 00:34:58,388 Speaker 4: I've seen some viral videos of him that are funding. 822 00:34:58,468 --> 00:35:00,188 Speaker 4: He does a little bits, but I think it's going 823 00:35:00,268 --> 00:35:01,748 Speaker 4: to be like a penn and teller with him and Harbaugh. 824 00:35:01,788 --> 00:35:04,108 Speaker 2: Harbaugh's just going to non stop talk. Harba's out there 825 00:35:04,108 --> 00:35:05,828 Speaker 2: to check that succer. I mean, the heartbird is so 826 00:35:05,828 --> 00:35:06,388 Speaker 2: I don't think. 827 00:35:06,228 --> 00:35:08,628 Speaker 3: He's talking about hearing things are saying 828 00:35:10,588 --> 00:35:12,668 Speaker 2: I'm gonna eat an orange