1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: It's been a full year of the Carol Markowitz Show. 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: I'm so happy and honored for every single listener. I'm 4 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: also so grateful for iHeartRadio and for the Klay, Travis 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton podcast network for giving me this opportunity. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know if this show would work. It's not 7 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: news of the day, it's not about politics. I described 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: this podcast as asking political people non political questions, but 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: it's also a show about living better, learning from other people, 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: taking good advice. And look, some episodes do veer straight 11 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: into politics, and there's just no stopping them. A lot 12 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: of people are just used to offering their opinion on 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: what's going on and are confused when someone asks questions 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: about them personally. I get that, so we do our 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: best to keep things not quite politics focused, more personal 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: here and just to hope for the best. 17 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 2: This show has. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: Been doing a million downloads a quarter, and that is 19 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: just wild to me. I've had people who have been 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: listening to me since the first episode and always offer feedback. 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: I really love that. I love hearing from listeners in general. 22 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: I got a bunch of mail recently about the dating episodes. 23 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I love getting the questions, and I also love getting 24 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: the advice that people want to share. If you've got thoughts, 25 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: drop me an email. Carol mark Witch Show at gmail 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: dot com, k A R O L M A R 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: K O w I CS and Charlie Zas and Zebra 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Show at gmail dot com. For season two of the show, 29 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: I've switched up some of the questions based on your suggestions. 30 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: I actually switch on question, dropped one question. 31 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: And kept one question. 32 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm no longer asking about our largest cultural problem, but 33 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: more widely, what the guest worries about could be personal 34 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: or it could be cultural. I've dropped the question about 35 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: whether the guest feels like they've made it. I've added 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: a listener suggested question about advice the guest would give 37 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: their sixteen year old self, and I've kept the last 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: question asking the guests to offer a tip to improve 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: the lives of our listeners. Lots of people said they 40 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: found that one useful, and I love being useful. I'm 41 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: really looking forward to season two of The Carol mark 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: Witz Show with all of you, Thank you so much 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: for listening. Coming up next and interview with Buck Sexton, 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: my very first repeat guest. He was also my very 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: first ever guest on season one of this show. We'll 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: hear from Buck Sexton after the break, but first I'd 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: like to talk to you about my friends IFCJ. October 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: seventh was the one year mark of the worst massacre 49 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: of the Jewish people since the Holocaust. Twelve hundred Israelis 50 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: were murdered and more than two hundred and fifty taken hostage. 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: The war in Israel rages on today. Israel and the 52 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: Jewish people are facing attacks from enemies on all sides 53 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: seeking Israel's destruction. 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That's 68 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: one word, SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. Hi, and welcome back to 69 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is 70 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton of The Clay and Buck Show, and I'm 71 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: so happy to have you on. 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: Buck. Thank you, Carol. This is exciting. I'm very honored 73 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: that I was the first guest, and now the end 74 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: of year one, I am back here. So at least 75 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: I got I was able to stay in the roster. 76 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: That's right, I mean a big deal here. 77 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kicking off season two of The Carol Markowitz 78 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Show on the Clay, Travis and Buck sex podcast Network. 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: So I've loved last year. 80 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: I've gotten to talk to so many interesting and cool people. 81 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I have to tell you that your interview was the 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: one that gets mentioned to me the most, and we'll 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: get to that later. It's the last question that I 84 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: ask about better living that so many people are like, 85 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: you know, that interview with Buck Sexton, Really I started 86 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: doing what he's ingested. 87 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: And again I'll talk about. 88 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: It in a bit, but yeah, people really enjoyed that, 89 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: so love having you on. Also, when you were on 90 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: a year ago, you were in newlywed. You've now you know, 91 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: been married for a long, long, long time. Any marriage 92 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: insights for us. 93 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: I'm starting off. Wow, we're going right into it. 94 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: Right into it. 95 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, people love to hear about this kind 96 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. 97 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, the nothing about it has been a 98 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: surprise to me. And I think part of it is 99 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: everybody has the model for what they think marriage will 100 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: be like that is just ingrained in their subconscious from 101 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: their own parents, right, and you know, maybe there's things 102 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: to learn, not just things to emulate. But and I 103 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: have parents who have been married now oh my god, 104 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: forty oh I'm trying to do the mathem I had 105 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: forty six years I think. 106 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: And they are the cutest couple ever. 107 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, but my parents are married a long time, 108 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: so you know, I had a sense of it from that. 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 3: I would say that advice that I would relay that 110 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: was pure marriage advice that I got early on in 111 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 3: the whole process was how you greet people really does matter, 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: and it is memorable and sets sort of the tone 113 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: for the rest of the conversation or the rest of 114 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: the interaction. But so you know, when your spouse comes home, 115 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: or you come home to your spouse, it's a kiss, 116 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: a hug, a hug, and a kid. I love you, 117 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: I'm excited to see you. You know, what are we 118 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 3: doing now? It's not in the couch, it's talk, not 119 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: coming in on the phone, like you know, doing this, 120 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: you know whatever, Like you come in, the greeting matters 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: and I find that that and we and we both 122 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: have a you know, we we agreed on that kind 123 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: of early on, Like when we talked about this when 124 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: we're getting married, we're like, oh, that's really good advice 125 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: we were given to pre Kano, which is what Catholics do. 126 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, if you no, I didn't know. 127 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of a Catholic marriage yeah right, yeah, yeah, 128 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: but it's a Catholic marriage preparation opponent, you know that 129 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: you're supposed to do before get married to church as 130 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: we did. Uh, And it was the I was some 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: of the best advice that we got on it. So 132 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: that's that's that was really good. I mean, that really 133 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: has put us in good stead and I just I 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: don't know, I can't just overstate the benefits of it. 135 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: And by the way, it's true for friends too. You know, 136 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: it's true for other people in your life when you 137 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: see people. I mean, you don't have to like hug 138 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 3: and kiss everybody. That wouldn't be appropriate. 139 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, well great, but I feel like you are. Yeah, 140 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it, You're always like heyy, 141 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: and you know, very very warm, and I think, yeah, 142 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: I always feel very welcomed by Buck Sexton. 143 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: Well, my family are huge, like my mom and dad 144 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: argue over who's the bigger Carol Markowitz fan work, and 145 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: so you know, we are very excited and our group 146 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 3: of friends Carol it's like this, it's like the celebrity 147 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: has arrived and ever, oh, it's very excited. 148 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: It's such a lie, you know, I think that that's 149 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: really sweet though. 150 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of all the Sextons. 151 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: And actually I wanted to talk to you about you 152 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: and your brother and Clay have started a coffee company 153 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: and I'm actually your coffee company's biggest fan. I really am, 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: go ahead. 155 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: And right now. My my manager Craig knew that I 156 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: was going to be out in La where I am 157 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: right now, which why I kind of the drop, and 158 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 3: he knew that I forgot to bring my own I 159 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: didn't bring my coffee bag, but he lives here so 160 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: he has it at his house, so he brought nice 161 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: dot comment for me. You drink it? 162 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it well, So I think I've told 163 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: you this, But I was a instant coffee drinker. It 164 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: was just it was like no coffee was good enough 165 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: to like not just mix it in a cup and 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: go on. 167 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: About my day. 168 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: And I have become and you know this is not 169 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: sponsored in any way. I just I love Krackett coffee. 170 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I think it's so good and just it's worth it 171 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: to me to brew up a pot of it and 172 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: get my days started with it. 173 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: And I've just never felt like that about a coffee before. 174 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I've been like, it's fine, it's fine, but how much 175 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: better is it than instant? Really? 176 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: Mason searched for many months to find the right people 177 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: to work with on the roasting and the and the 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: packaging side, and sourcing the right beans and using the 179 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: right blend. So he'll be very happy to hear this, 180 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: because I think people just think, like, oh, you just 181 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: find someone great. Is it ording coffee beans, because obviously 182 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: we don't need to have a coffee domestic coffee production 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: in the US, and that No, it's actually really hard 184 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: to find something good who wants to work with you. 185 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: It's that was the first part of the process. So 186 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: I'm so glad we got a crack a coffee drink 187 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: that makes Yeah. Actually, it's been fascinating after a decade 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: of being in the radio business as a talent who 189 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: has to speak about products, now to be a product owner, 190 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: I mean co owned, playing with Mason and trying to 191 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: go at it from the other side of the table. 192 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: It's like you see a lot of you know, you 193 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: see you obviously see things differently, and you see the 194 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: challenges of how you know, you want to work with people, 195 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: but you have to make sure that it's a business 196 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 3: and not you're not sure hobby. 197 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: But part of it is having an alternative product to 198 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: kind of the mainstream products that we assume we're spending 199 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: all of our cash on leftist causes, right, that's definitely 200 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: what you own of this it's funny. 201 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: I'm actually giving I'm doing Bill Maher show tonight and 202 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: I'm giving I mean my honorarium. It's you know, it's 203 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: not I don't know if I'm my god it's or 204 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 3: how much. It's not not a lot of money. It's 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: a nice check. I'm giving a Tunnel to Towers Foundation. 206 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I just I think that they do such 207 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: amazing work. And it's interesting me because it's like a 208 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 3: lot of people on the ride like that charity, but 209 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: to me, it is a totally American charity. It is 210 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: not it is not partisan in any way. But it 211 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: helps heroes, first responders, military, their families. And ten percent 212 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: of profits from Crockett goes to that. So if you 213 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: want Rocket to be one hundred million dollar company and 214 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: be able to send a ten million dollar check, you know, 215 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: will it's amazing from this, we want to be able 216 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: to send a ten million dollar check to Tunnel the 217 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 3: Towers every year. I mean, that's that's like our vision. 218 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: That's our goal. 219 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: So one of the new questions that I have for 220 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: season two of The Carol Markowitz Show is and you know, 221 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: I had listeners suggest the questions and then I picked 222 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: my favorites. One question we'll stay from last season, but 223 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: two new ones. The new question is what advice would 224 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: you give a sixteen year old buck Sexton to yourself 225 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: at sixteen? 226 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: I think that the best advice that I could give 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: to a sixteen year old version. Well, so there's the 228 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: advice that I would give myself yourself yourself, and then 229 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 3: there's the advice that I would give sort of sixteen 230 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: year olds or broadly because I was, I was a 231 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: little bit unusual for a sixteen year old and some 232 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: respects that may not be a shock to people who 233 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 3: are familiar with me or my work or whatever, but 234 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: and maybe it's actually more and more one and the same. 235 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 3: I think it'd be good for me to hear it, 236 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: which is, you just want to take a long view 237 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: when you're sixteen, a long view, right when when you're fifty, 238 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: a long view is like, I don't know, like years, 239 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: twenty years, you know, when you're my age, when you're forties, 240 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: it's like and I'm middle age. When you're sixteen, you 241 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 3: want to take what you think of as a long 242 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: view on just everything, just everything that you possibly like, 243 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: just the I think the biggest track. 244 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: It's so tough to do. 245 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: It's so hard, it's seen. 246 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, but no one told me this. The biggest traps 247 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: are you Are you popular at sixteen? Nobody cares? Are 248 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 3: you considered smart at sixteen? Nobody cares? Are you considered 249 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: you know, good looking or attractive at sixteen, Like, no 250 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 3: one really cares until you get into your twenties and thirties, 251 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 3: nothing is going to be meaningful to your life. Really, 252 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 3: I'm talking about personal growth stops right. No one at 253 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: sixteen is doing the things that they will look back 254 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: on their life and be like, oh yeah, like that 255 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: was really amazing, that was really important. So I think 256 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: you can. I think that I would tell myself, and 257 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: I would tell any sixteen year old. Let you know, 258 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: lay the pressure off yourself. Take the long taking the 259 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: long view. I know it seems like it and it 260 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,479 Speaker 3: does require discipline and it takes some sort of foresight, 261 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: but it also means you're not even gonna remember this 262 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: stuff hey when it matters, like, you're not really who 263 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: you are yet, and so just enjoy each day, try 264 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 3: to find what you like, try to get better. 265 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: You know, calculus is BS, it doesn't you know what 266 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: I like? 267 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 3: This is? 268 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: But this is teenagers listening. Do not listen to him. 269 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: It's very important. 270 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 3: Let's do it. This is the point. If you're good 271 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: at calculus and you want to be pushing in these directions, great, 272 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: then that's an area for you. But you will not 273 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: use some of these things in your life. Won't stress out. 274 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: I'm not saying don't do your homework. Yeah, it doesn't 275 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: matter in any meaning. Kids put so much stress. I'll 276 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: give you another one. Go to college where you want 277 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: to go to college. I went to Amherst, which in 278 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: some of the like college, there's university rankings, which is 279 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: always like harbar, I don't know those college rankings. Amherst 280 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: is routinely for the colleges a top five schools something. 281 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: You know, it's Williams, Amorus, Swathmore. Those tend to be 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: the ones that are kind of always trading off whatever. 283 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: I wish I had gone somewhere else. 284 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: Honestly, where do you wish you would? 285 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I probably would have. I mean I almost 286 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: went to like Georgetown was the one that I was 287 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: so close. Here's the thing. I went where I thought 288 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: it was more academically rigorous, without even really knowing what 289 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: that meant. Instead, of what do I think I'm going 290 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: to enjoy my time more and have and it fits 291 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: in with my conception of how I want to spend 292 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: my day to day as an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old. 293 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: So look, I had a good time at Emerson. I'm 294 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: not like, I'm not anti yes, sure, but I just mean, 295 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: you know, try to take the longer view. Understand that 296 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 3: a lot of things that stress you out at sixteen 297 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: are truly meaningless. 298 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: Were you hard on yourself when you were sixteen? 299 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: Oh? 300 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that this is coming across here, Okay, I just 301 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure kids are hard on themselves anymore. I 302 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: don't know that that's still maybe I don't have a 303 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: six My oldest is fourteen. When no, we'll see what happens. 304 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: But they seem like they you know, self esteem is 305 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: really stressed in schools, so they seem like they're doing okay. 306 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: That I mean so again I was in school. What 307 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I was there. We're till going back over 308 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: thirty years now when I was sixteen, which makes me 309 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: feel really old. Even though a lot of people watching 310 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 3: this on video at least will be like, he looks 311 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 3: like he's twenty five. 312 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: You really do. 313 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: Which is fair, which is I don't know what to say. 314 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's you know, I'm forty gonna be forty three, 315 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: but but no, I yes, why I look, that's the thing. 316 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: That's what I mean though, Like there's what I would 317 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: give advice to myself versus what I would sort of 318 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: how I advise other people who are sixteen but on 319 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: the college front, for example, And I tell you know, 320 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: we have some great neighbors Carrie and I do where 321 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: we live in in Miami, and become very friendly with them, 322 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: and they've got kids who are, you know, fourteen sixteen 323 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: around that age group, and the parents ask me because 324 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, some people think I'm kind of wise. 325 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: I know, yeah you are, thank you, and they last 326 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: me things and I'll just say the When I was 327 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: in school, the ranking of your college was like, it's 328 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: either you're gonna go work at Goldman and make millions 329 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: and have an awesome life and be you know, just 330 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: hugging your beautiful wife on the beach and Southampton and 331 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: area or not right based on where you go school. 332 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: But I've learned as I've become an adult who actually 333 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: has seen life is I mean, I know schmucks who 334 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: went to Harvard, I know, super stars who went to 335 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: community college. Like, it's just not this or some rough 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 3: sorting of academic ability that goes on, but it doesn't really. 337 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: You're seeing this, by the way, with the huge surge 338 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: in interest in SEC schools. Oh yeah, don't tell Clay this, 339 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: But like twenty years ago, if you were a good 340 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: student in New York City or I'm sure La and 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: some of the Boston you were not going to an SEC. 342 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 3: If you went to an SEC school from New York 343 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: against what went wrong? 344 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 345 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: You you you were You were like a you were 346 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 3: like a screw up warned party and go for That 347 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: was totally shifting. And now people are you know, University 348 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: of Florida is like an elite school. Oh yeah, it's 349 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: hard to get it. I don't know. 350 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we hope our kids go to a University of Florida, right. 351 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: No, but you look at these schools in the Southeast, 352 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: and I think that's just a function of people realizing 353 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: where do I want to be and get a good education, 354 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: not just like where do I fall on this list? 355 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the funniest things I could tell 356 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: anybody who's like, what am I going to do with 357 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: my life? And you know, how am I know? Where 358 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: am I going to go with? This? Is of the 359 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 3: people that I knew who were doing backflips because they 360 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 3: got recruited to go work on Wall Street when they 361 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: were a twenty two misery, they hated it, and almost 362 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 3: none of them lasted. Almost none of them lasted, Like 363 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: I mean, right, I mean same. 364 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: Things for lawyers. 365 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: You know, I know very few people who got into 366 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: like the best law firms that they were so excited 367 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: to go to and liked it and stayed it. 368 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: Just it almost never happens. 369 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny because I think 370 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: back to this and it's so much about where people 371 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 3: can make money at a young Like everyone wants to 372 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: have money at a young age. You have to also 373 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: remember like money as a young single person is very 374 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 3: you know, you have very different needs in very different stresses. 375 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: You know. I I enjoyed myself in my twenties and 376 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: I was making at the time what would be what 377 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: was basically like I think the average American household income, 378 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 3: which was like forty thousand dollars a year, and you 379 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 3: know in New York City that wasn't you know, I 380 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: was working for the government. It wasn't a lot of 381 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 3: money at all. I had peers who were like, I 382 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: just got a fifty thousand dollars bonus. I'm like, I 383 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 3: just my my all in so, I had friends in 384 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: my early twenties who were making and a lot of them, 385 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: by the way, not just like two who were making 386 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: three four times as much money as me. Right off 387 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: the bat, and again to my point about long term 388 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: versus short term, nobody cares, right, nobody cares. 389 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: You're not real Like how much were you making out 390 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: of college? 391 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: Right exactly? How mu you're making at college doesn't matter. 392 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: You're not rich because you made one hundred and sixty 393 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 3: grand one year, and this is your life. The other 394 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: thing I've realized is. 395 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: Maybe excellent, this is really I love all of this, 396 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: Like oh really, OK, keep going yeah, yeah. 397 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: Well as you can say. The other thing I realized 398 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: is your goal and achievement obsession is a trap. A 399 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: goal or an achievement that you want, whether it's to 400 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: be rich or to be you know, to have a 401 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: great physique, or to be super successful in your field. 402 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 3: That is a guide for how you set up your 403 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: day to day life. Your day to day life is 404 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 3: everything right, meaning you want to be you want to 405 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: be in a position where you are growing, where you 406 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 3: are enjoying yourself, where you are challenged, but you are 407 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 3: comfortable enough that you can have moments of happiness. And 408 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: you want to set up that matrix of your day 409 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: to day. And so this is kind of the anti 410 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: I want to go work at I was gonna say 411 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: Lehman Brothers, but that was my day, right. People are like, 412 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 3: I want to go work with Lehman Brothers, but not 413 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: so much. Yeah, not so much anymore. But you know, okay, 414 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: do you want to spend a few years of your twenties? 415 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 3: For some people the answer is yes. But do you 416 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: want to spend a few years of your twenties legitimate 417 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: working eighty hours a week gaining By the way, for 418 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: the women who did it that I knew they all 419 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: of course, because you're at a desk and you're eating 420 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: like crap Chinese takeout food, right, like, you know, gaining weight, 421 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: not getting sunlight whatever, so you can, you know, make 422 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 3: six figures when you're this stuff does not matter. 423 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from buck Sexton, and 424 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: it could all fall apart so fast. I mean, your 425 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: leaming example is a very good one. And we just 426 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: watched Anchorment, not Inchorman. We watched Telladega Nights with the 427 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: Kids recently, and the guy in the movies like, oh, 428 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: I want to get in on this Haliburton stock. You know, 429 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: it just it could all end tomorrow. 430 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't. It doesn't last forever anyway. 431 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, if you're living that way at twenty two, 432 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: you're probably doing it wrong. 433 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: It's funny, you know, Carol, there was this, I really 434 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: want to say a year ago, there was this peak 435 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: of these podcasts and they're all it's extra points if 436 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: you have a British accent, right, that means you're smarter 437 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 3: on a podcast. Sure, right, I have a question to 438 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: ask you, but they would have. You know, they've talked 439 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 3: to all these different uh you know, alpha CEO guys 440 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: when they would ask them, and this is true, I've 441 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: heard that. I mean I could think of like ten 442 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: different podcasts where there's been a version of this same moment. 443 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: You know, they asked some guy who's made you know, 444 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 3: five hundred million dollars two billion whatever it is, right, 445 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: like astronomical riches and run some huge company or built 446 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: some huge company. They say like, what what do you 447 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: think about? And what are you most proud of? And 448 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: you know, you know what they all say, family, my family. Yeah, 449 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: and if they have a regret, you know what their 450 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 3: regret is. 451 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: Not enough time with my family to omit. And so obvious. 452 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 3: It's so obvious. And this is great for people to 453 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: hear though, because this is what I mean about your 454 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: day to day. It's like, you know, I mean I 455 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: turned around the other day and I and I told Carrie, uh, 456 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: who's my wife or anyone in the audience who doesn't know. 457 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: It was just wonderful, thank you. She is really great. 458 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 3: She's really great. And and I I turned on. We're 459 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: talking to something. I don't even know how it came up, 460 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: but we out like some friend of mine or some 461 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: guy I know, like just that you know just actually 462 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 3: is like a friend of a friend. And we were like, oh, 463 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 3: like that guys. You know, guys, I didn't know he 464 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 3: sold this company for like three hundred million dollars and 465 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: and you know he's got all these fancy cars and 466 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: all these houses and everything. And I turn around. It's like, honestly, 467 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: if I swear to you, if we had a billion 468 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: dollars tomorrow. I wouldn't get a different car, right, happy 469 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 3: with the car we live in? Yeah, I wouldn't. I 470 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: would like, I'm there's like, what there is a level where. 471 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeahinish returns and you have what you need. 472 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: And I mean to me, it's just kind of funny 473 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: when I hear people that have and because because again 474 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: this is about like the goal and the short term 475 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: long term. Yeah, you have this idea that oh, if 476 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: I get to and this is what I mean by 477 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: the goal, can become the enemy of what matters, which 478 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: is your day to day life. I'm going to mortgage 479 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: my twenties, thirties and maybe even my forties so that 480 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: I can be a tech a tech billionaire, right, Like, 481 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: let's say that's your mindset. And I don't know, I've 482 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: come across a lot of younger people who that's really 483 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: and even more than that, by the way, it's I 484 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: want to be a YouTube star, right. 485 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the definitely the hot thing right now. 486 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: I want to make thirty three. Well, okay, you know 487 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 3: you're going to spend a lot of time making content. 488 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: Do you like making content? You're going to have people 489 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: that don't like what you're doing. It's going to be frustrating, 490 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 3: it's going to take years. You know, you're you're also 491 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: taking a risk of not of not doing other things, 492 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: learning other things that you have to take a I 493 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 3: think a broad spectrum view of what you're doing. But 494 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 3: if that makes you miserable, even if you wake up 495 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: at forty or forty five and now you do have 496 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: whatever it is, like you do have the billion dollars 497 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: of stock in the Lamborghini, you know, or you have 498 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: the ten million followers on YouTube or something. Were you 499 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: happy to get there? 500 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: Right? 501 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 3: Was it? Happiness? Is? 502 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: This is all so deep too? Like yeah, this is 503 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you might not be and 504 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: I think people think that they automatically will. 505 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: Be yes this, But this is what I mean by 506 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: people eight, I'll be happy when you know people call it. 507 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 3: I think people call like if then thinking or when 508 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: if thinking or whatever. It's you know, if I get this, 509 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: everything will be worth it. If I achieve the following thing, 510 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: all the sacrifices look to get places, you have to 511 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: make sacrifices. Like one of the things I tell people 512 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: media now is if I knew how hard it would 513 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 3: be to get to a place where I am happy 514 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: and comfortable with my media career. When I started it, 515 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: I probably would have gone and taken a job like 516 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 3: McKinsey or something, you know what. I Anyway, I actually 517 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: got on this like escalator. It was kind of like 518 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 3: once you're on it, you're in it. You just kept going. 519 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: But I knew what it was actually going to require, 520 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I've managed to make a career 521 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 3: in conservative media. I've never been paid a dollar by 522 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 3: Fox News in my life. 523 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Now that's fine, pretty unusual, that's. 524 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 3: Fine, but you know, but I just bring up, like 525 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: if you told me that when. 526 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: I started where I forget it right. 527 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm never going to make a dollar from 528 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: Fox every Like, they're never going to literally pay me. 529 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: It's not a contributor or anything. I can't make a 530 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: living doing this. Well it turns out I can. But 531 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, this is what I mean by I liked 532 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: even when stuff was crappy and I was doing a 533 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 3: lot for free, this game that you and I are in, 534 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 3: this which I actually think is a kind of a 535 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: thing of this thing that we do. 536 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: I like it evages when I was getting abused at 537 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 5: CNN on air, not because you know they're so good 538 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 5: at arguing, because you know, it's just like ah, like. 539 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: Chickens, you know, squawking at you all once. It's a mess. 540 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but I like, this is the 541 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: fight I want to be in, you know what I mean? 542 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 3: And that that's really And it wasn't If I take 543 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: this abuse one day, I'll have my own show at 544 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: CNN or something. It was just like I like this 545 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: right now, and I think I'm good at it, and 546 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: so I'm gonna keep doing it. 547 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: Totally. 548 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: I think that for younger people thinking about what they 549 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: want to do, do that it's not just people say 550 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 3: pursue your passion. No no, no, no, no no no, Like 551 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 3: there are lots of things. There was a time when 552 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 3: I was passionate about video games, but like, how make 553 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: a living playing video games? Maybe? 554 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: Although now you never know, really somebody would watch you 555 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: play video games. 556 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 2: That's like a money making thing now, So. 557 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: Well yeah, So that's my my thing is is if 558 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: you really want to want to be where you want 559 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: to be in life. And I see this across all 560 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: my friends, all my colleagues, what is your day to day? 561 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: You know, do you enjoy it? Do you find it 562 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: productive if do you find it meaningful? 563 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: So the second. 564 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: Question of my at one point, no, no, that was 565 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: one question, like we got to get to like that's right. 566 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: My second, my second new question is. 567 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: What do you worry about? 568 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Which I think goes well with this because you know, 569 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: I think that you have to worry about something. 570 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: And so what is it? 571 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: You mean as an individual or as an individual? 572 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: What does what does book Sexton worry about? 573 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 2: And it could be anything. 574 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: My question last season was what do you think is 575 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: our largest cultural problem? 576 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: So it could be cultural or it could be you know, 577 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 578 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I definitely worry about my kids or different different things 579 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: on different days. 580 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 3: But I worry about what I call mass delusion. So 581 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: I worry about groups of people becoming deeply convinced of 582 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: things and mobilized behind things that are not only untrue, 583 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 3: but often anti true or sort of divorced from reality. 584 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: I think that is the biggest threat that human beings face. 585 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: I think that is the biggest challenge that we have, 586 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: and I mean I could go through. I mean I 587 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: think all totalitarianisms, for example, are founded on delusional principles 588 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: of universal control and absolute power, which is just it's not. 589 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: This is contrary to human nature. It's contrary to existence, right, 590 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: So all of the worst things involve large groups becoming 591 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: certain that something is true when it is untrue. COVID 592 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: obviously is a huge example of that. 593 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think we just had a 594 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: real good example of that not too long ago. 595 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 3: And I think that this is this is what really 596 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: concerns me because also the ability to shape perception now 597 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: at scale, meaning you know, hundreds of millions of people 598 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: you couldn't even know. Yeah, there's like the printing press, 599 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: and then there's radio, and then there's these ways that 600 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: mass media have developed over the last hundred years. But 601 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: what we're in now is we alternate an alternate reality 602 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 3: of what is public consensus can be constructed very rapidly, 603 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: and by the time people even realize what's going on. 604 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: I think enormous damage can be done. I mean, I 605 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: do think COVID was, yeah, it's scary, a perfect example 606 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: of that. But I think there are other examples of 607 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: it too. I mean think that the narrative that Donald 608 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: Trump is is hitler. While we're coing to it because 609 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: it's so stupid, this is really this is really bad. 610 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 3: This is it's bad because there are people who believe 611 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 3: this stuff and they that then they're kind of numb 612 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: to all the other arguments, facts, data and discussion that 613 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: I think can lead to. 614 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Right we they end up arguing, you know, let's get 615 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: rid of the First Amendment because of what if you 616 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: say something positive about Donald Trump on social media? You know, 617 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: they end up having to go down this rabbit hole 618 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: where it has to support their delusion, and that. 619 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: Affects all of us. 620 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think we are also all kind 621 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: of becoming. I mean I used to love I mean, 622 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 3: you know I did growing up. I read a lot, 623 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: but I watched a lot of particularly like HBO and 624 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: like I love watching all. I watched all these action 625 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: movies that were like made with small budgets and were 626 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: not good, you know, like I was a Dolph Lungdren fan. 627 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: And I don't mean Rocky four. I mean it's tougher, 628 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: like nobody saw that showed out sweet he. 629 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Plays the Russian Oh yah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, that's 630 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: all I mean. 631 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, that is a thing that we 632 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: used to watch in these bad movies where it's like 633 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: a human but has like a chip in the brain 634 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: and maybe some metallic thing. And Terminator is obviously the 635 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 3: biggest example of this, but like cyborgs is a big 636 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: thing in the eighties and nineties, we're all becoming these 637 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 3: kind of human machine hybrids where our inf like we 638 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: have access to endless information, but we're also constantly being 639 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: influenced by what's really almost a second brain. Like you've 640 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 3: never you know before, if you wanted to find out 641 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: a fact, if you weren't encyclopedia, what are your Encyclopedia Britannica, 642 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: And like, oh, like is that really the like is 643 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: the toad sloth really? But you know, it's amazing on 644 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 3: the one hand, but on the other hand that you 645 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 3: have all this information access but you also are so 646 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: reliant on these machines now that they are pros, they're 647 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 3: creating our version of reality in ways. 648 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: When somebody's like googled something and then they're like read 649 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: a book, you know, you just know they just learned 650 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: this information five seconds ago, Like when you see Twitter, 651 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: like everybody become you know, experts on whatever the latest thing. 652 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: Is, Like, oh, it's it. 653 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: I've always known about this, this was like this and 654 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: and the fact that you believe that is evidence that 655 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: you're stupid. We see that all the time, and that 656 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: is like they're they're part they think that that's part 657 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: of them. Their Google process is the information that they have. 658 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: It's also amazing. I went to a bookstore here in 659 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 3: La looking for a hard to find book on Ivan 660 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 3: Ory von Pavlov for yeah right now. But anyway, they 661 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: said they had it, they actually didn't because it was 662 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: so rare, like they hadn't even updated that. The one 663 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: copy they had a long time ago was gone. So 664 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, of course, right, like you know, I'm like, oh, 665 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: I found that, but I went in there was I 666 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: was interest. I'm a big fan of tactile books, like 667 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: physical hard time. I think everyone should have them in 668 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 3: their home. I think children should grow up reading still books, 669 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 3: not kindles. Not I read, that's fine, but you should 670 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: have books should be a part of it. There is 671 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: something about a physical It is an unbeatable technology for 672 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 3: what it is in some ways, having having books occupy 673 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 3: physical space, having uh you know, the cover design, and 674 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: having in your hands and that experience of I am 675 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: reading and it's not just screen screens is all fast 676 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 3: screens is something else. I think it's really important. But 677 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 3: it was funny being in this bookstore, because I mean, 678 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 3: I am in La to be fair, I look around, 679 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm looking at all these books. I'm like, 680 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: has a white guy ever written a book? Has there 681 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: been a white male who has written a book? Because 682 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 3: walking around this store, I don't think so. Well, that's 683 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: interesting to me. 684 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the pav Love book obviously was written by 685 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: white guy, but they don't have it anymore. 686 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was that. 687 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: So the last time you were on, I end all 688 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: my shows with the question of leave my listeners with 689 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: the tip for them to improve their lives, and your 690 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 1: tip it wasn't that a groundbreaking tip. 691 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: Sorry to say that, but it was read before bed. 692 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: I think that. 693 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean I always read before bed. I kind of 694 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: fell off of that a little bit when I got married, 695 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: but I'm trying. 696 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get. 697 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Back to not scrolling before bed. But a lot of 698 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: people wrote to me and said that it really did 699 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: change things for them. Just the decision to read before 700 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: bed instead of getting on your phone made a difference. 701 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: So do you have a new tip for us? You 702 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: want to end us with a new tip, or do 703 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: you want to reinforce the last one. 704 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 3: Well, I mean I have to double down on the 705 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: read before bed is a fabulous and that actually I do. 706 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 3: That's where actually a kindle for me because if you 707 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: want to have the low light setting and everything, that's 708 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: you know, so there's a play. I love my kindle. 709 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 3: I'm not like anti it, but I just also believe 710 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: in physical books, and I believe that people should have 711 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 3: a bookshelf in the home and that there should be 712 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 3: books that they have both want to read and have 713 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: read that are on that shelf, and the children should 714 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: be familiar with it. I did grow up surrounded by 715 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: books and bookshelves in New York, so I think that 716 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: was interesting. It work well for me, so I'll tell 717 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 3: you this one. Actually, man, I'm trying to pick I 718 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: have a few way I can't believe them. 719 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: No, I know, we were like, it's like fifteen minutes 720 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: over it, but that's okay, that's okay. 721 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: No one really ever asked me my opinion on anything, 722 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: So this is such a new theck. It's always just like, 723 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: tell us what's going on in the news. 724 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: I want to say that I get a lot of 725 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: that here because I get people on and they're like 726 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: ready to talk about Donald Trump or something, and then 727 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, so you know, what kind of advice do 728 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: you have for people? 729 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 2: And they're like, wait me, what you know? 730 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: Well, it's funny because I I would actually love to 731 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 3: like both share and exchange insights with people out there 732 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: more broadly. But what I find is I actually get 733 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: people who are who are almost like taken aback by, 734 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: like excuse me, like we how is Trump going to 735 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 3: be calm on this election? Like stay focused? But don't 736 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm not allowed with some people. 737 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: Come back anytime and you share all the thoughts that 738 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: you have, all right. 739 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: So can I can I kind of cheat and give 740 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: you a variant of the one I gave you last 741 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 3: year and then a totally new one. So I'm kind 742 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: of it's. 743 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 2: Your podcast network. You do whatever you want. 744 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: That's very kind of you, all right. So the one 745 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: thing I would tack on, because this gets me heat 746 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: and I'm not even going to explain, get the TV 747 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: out of your bedroom. Get the TV out of your bedroom. 748 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 3: I'm not anti TV. I love great shows, that's fine. 749 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 3: Get it out of your bedroom. People, good old like 750 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: you're a newly wed. That's what I'm like, you know 751 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: what I mean? 752 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you mean. 753 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 754 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: But what you mean? 755 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 3: Get the TV out of your bedroom full stop. Don't 756 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: argue with me, just do it. Move it to another room. 757 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: Don't have a TV in your bedroom. But the advice 758 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: piece that I will give because I'm tacking that onto 759 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 3: part one of the reader if we go to bed, 760 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: uh and you're gonna disagree with me on this when Carol, 761 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 3: oh really, Oh, I love that You're gonna you're I might, 762 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: I might trigger Carol Markowitz on her own. 763 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 764 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 3: Comfortable footwear, it is, I mean, life changing. I do 765 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 3: not understand men and women wearing shoes that hurt their feet. 766 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: It SAPs your energy, It puts you in a bad mood. 767 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 3: It over the long term, it causes all kinds of 768 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 3: foot distortions. 769 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: Have you discussed this with Jesse Kelly. He's super into 770 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: I lovels. 771 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: This is where he is so wrong. He is he 772 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 3: is like, yeah, a whole other stratosphere of wrong. 773 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: He got into my. 774 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Car and I had flats like in the passengers, you know, 775 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: on the floor of the passenger seat, and he was 776 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: like flats and I was like, no, no, Jesse, only 777 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: for driving because I love heels. 778 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: I love hot shoes. I hear you, I really do. 779 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: I wear sneakers sometimes running around, you know, during the 780 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: day with my kids and stuff. But for nights out, 781 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: I love hot shoes and you cannot stop me. 782 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 3: So see, all right, I can't convince Carol. But to 783 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 3: the rescue listing, there there are happy mediums. You want 784 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: to have comfortable feet the uh. I mean, one one 785 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: of my experiences in New York that I lived through 786 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: so many times before I got married was I'd be 787 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 3: on a date and it was going well, you know, 788 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 3: you're at dinner. Usually you throw the standard in New 789 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 3: York as your dinner and then you can drink efforts 790 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: because you could walk across the street or you know, 791 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 3: it's New York right there. I mean, I know you 792 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 3: know this, but for people listening, uh, and they'd be like. 793 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 4: Like, we take a taxi and I'd be like, we're 794 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 4: gonna go three blocks, Like we're gonna be three. 795 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: Blocks, okay, fair? You know. But I also I have 796 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: like shoes. 797 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: That I go out in that I know are gonna 798 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: be sitting shoes. 799 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 2: Like I'm not walking into three blocks. I'm not walking anywhere. 800 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 2: I'm walking from. 801 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: The car to dinner where I'll be sitting, and then 802 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: I'll get back in the car when I know I 803 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: have to walk a little bit. 804 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 2: I have comfortable. 805 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: Heels that I could walk in and I have and 806 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, I yes, I reject your whole premise here. 807 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 3: And you would. I knew she would. She has an 808 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 3: amazing shoe collection, and I get it. And I'm you know, 809 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: and I know, especially with some of the women. But 810 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: I mean I see women walking around on these, like 811 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 3: the stilts that they have, and I see it, and 812 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I mean, look, I know it looks nice 813 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: and elegance to it. But okay, fine, if you're at 814 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: like a you know, if you're like a block tie 815 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: gala or a wedding or something, I get it. But 816 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 3: for me, fancy shoes is the way I feel about 817 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: neck ties only if I absolutely have to. 818 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 2: Only silly. But no shoes are you know. 819 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring We're gonna bring Jesse Kelly on to 820 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: debate this with. 821 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 3: You and tell you tell that let lanky son of 822 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 3: a gun anytime he wants to have the shoe throwdown, 823 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 3: I'm here. 824 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: He's buck Sexton, Clay Travis, and Buck Section Show. Check 825 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 1: them out every day. 826 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 2: They're so amazing. You're awesome. 827 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: Buck, Thank you so much for having for coming on, 828 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: for having this show on your network. 829 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. 830 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: Congrats on the podcast. By the way, it is doing 831 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 3: great and. 832 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 1: I know us you see my internal numbers congratulation. 833 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 3: A lot of people listen. Very good stuff. 834 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, Thank you, thanks so much for joining 835 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitch Show. Subscribe wherever you get 836 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: your podcasts.