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Speaker 2: I can never you know, I feel like I'm never

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Speaker 1: But he joins us.

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Speaker 2: Now, and let's start with this because as you and

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Speaker 2: I are talking, there's a lot of hubbub.

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Speaker 1: We go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I've usually used the people demanding I never returned.

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Speaker 2: So this is a very well cood show that they demand.

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Speaker 2: The commenters and everything, well, this is funny. They like

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Speaker 2: when you make fun of my giant head. They all remember. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, because because you're you, you're the only You're

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Speaker 2: the one that comes on my show. It's one thing

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Speaker 2: I've on on your show or someone else's shit, and

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Speaker 2: they're making fun of my giant cranium. But you're the

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Speaker 2: one who comes into my living room and is like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if your head can fit in here.

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Speaker 1: So we have to figure this out.

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Speaker 3: If we're not going to be having fun, we're not

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Speaker 3: going to win the truth. Who are in the middle,

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Speaker 3: who are ambiguous voters or politically ambiguous, will want to

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Speaker 3: go where the fun people are just at an instinct level.

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Speaker 3: So it's really important to have a good time because

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Speaker 3: that look at Trump and McDonald's look at Trump with

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Speaker 3: the garbage truck. I'm starry to detail what we're going

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Speaker 3: to say, but this is such an important point that

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people in our side, hardly speaking,

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Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely true, and I know people will be

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Speaker 2: not happy to know this, but it was one of

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Speaker 2: solid Lensky's Eureka moments for activism. Oh yeah, that it

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Speaker 2: should be fun. He's ad activism should be and you

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Speaker 2: saw this well for years with the Left with a

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Speaker 2: lot of their live streaming of their weird protests and things.

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Speaker 2: Make it a show, make it enjoyable, make it a

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Speaker 2: thing that people want to go do. Olinsky knew that

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Speaker 2: decades ago, and it turns out it's true.

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Speaker 3: And it's the power. And Obama's supermajorities was because George

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you saw this even also with with Trump,

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Speaker 2: flipping things around where he did the burger King thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm all, so whatever, whatever, it's a McDonald's McDonald.

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Speaker 3: You know why this is a big difference because I

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Speaker 3: Going to Burger King was such a treat and so exciting,

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Speaker 2: I actually remember people saying burger King had had like

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Speaker 2: My point merely being about when we're discussing that, the

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Speaker 3: When I worked on two books at del Hughley, he

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Speaker 2: And you know that's that's also I think a very

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Speaker 3: she goes, is it working? She literally said that.

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Speaker 2: I actually did not remember that, but now that you

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Speaker 2: That's a perfect example of like not doing it in

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Speaker 2: the pandering. You can pander to people while still being

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Speaker 3: That is something where like you're trashy, your tastes cy

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Speaker 3: Maybe his family is cause of money, but he's not

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Speaker 2: No, I remember, even growing up in New York that

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Speaker 2: All right, I've got to get you on Canada here,

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Speaker 2: Oh Canada, they're playing the hockey game to the second

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Speaker 3: The answer you ready? Okay? Trump has no allegiance to

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Speaker 3: like the establishment its history. He's really overturning a lot

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Speaker 3: I feel that. I'm sure you agree. One of the

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Speaker 3: do you make reparation with slavery? If my great grandparents

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Speaker 3: According to Google, there's forty one point five million African Americans,

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Speaker 3: So I say, annex Canada. Every African American gets a

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Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. But people who

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Speaker 3: They continue on as they are.

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Speaker 2: I think that Canada is a nice country of nice

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Speaker 3: They can sing in the field, they could sing their

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Speaker 2: What do you think of the Greenland maneuver? Is that

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Speaker 1: Or is that just does that just trolling?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say there's two points to this. I remember

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Speaker 3: the inauguration day. There's a video of this and Trump

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Speaker 3: Denmark and he's telling here, no, no, no, no, no, this isn't

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Speaker 3: she was like apoplectic, and she's like, he's like, look,

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Speaker 3: you're Greenland. The hell you're a Denmark. What are you

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Speaker 3: my understanding, Greenland has like trillions of dollars of natural resources.

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Speaker 2: No are I say, much closer, Like a lot of

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Speaker 2: I think that Buddha judge for a bunch of you.

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Speaker 1: Don't think it's matter.

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Speaker 3: She's hard left and they're not moving hard left. They're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is why I say I don't think they

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Speaker 2: he could step into but that's not gonna it's not

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Speaker 2: LA is really I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Interesting is you have Governor Pritzker Illinois, and there's different

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Speaker 3: people are trying to stand up the Trump and rally

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Speaker 3: the anti Trump figure setting them stuff up twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: and it's not working. They're not coalescing around. Any of

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Speaker 2: Or Democrat, would have I've never seen a party as

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Speaker 2: ineffective as the Democrats are right now.

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Speaker 1: In my I mean, people would.

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Speaker 3: Say the Republicans under the first couple of years at

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Speaker 3: the end, I.

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Speaker 2: Was if you had let me finish either. Notice the

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Speaker 2: host doesn't even get to finish the sentences what Malys

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Speaker 2: is on I was speaking, has you know I was,

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Speaker 2: I was speaking, sir, let me, let me finish. No,

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that after Obama. But you

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Speaker 2: have to remember the Tea Party came within what a

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Speaker 3: Big what I meant before Obama Bush twenty two thousand

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm sorry, So then you're a little a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I was saying.

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Speaker 2: The first year of Obama, the Republicans looked like, you know,

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Speaker 2: they couldn't find up from down. So I mean similar period. Yes,

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Speaker 2: after the award in Irock and Afghanistan and then the

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Speaker 2: free fall of the economy under Bush. I know, people

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Speaker 2: would say it wasn't really his fault whatever, But the

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Speaker 2: point is it happened. It happens on your watch. It

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Speaker 2: happens on your watch. So good things going on, Michael.

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Speaker 2: We're at time, So tell me people are going to

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Speaker 2: go check out your podcast, any other exciting projects or

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Speaker 2: just life advice you want to give to everybody listening.

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Speaker 3: Don't let the failures of your fellow countrymen impact on

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Speaker 3: your happiness. This is America and great things can happen

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Speaker 3: to you if you put your mind to it and

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Speaker 3: work hard enough.

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Speaker 1: Michael Malice, everybody, mister Malice, thank you so much