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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane

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Speaker 1: ever told your protection of iHeartRadio. Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: a Feminist around the World, and today we want to

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Speaker 1: celebrate the amazing activist an icon, Miss Major Griffin. Gracie

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Speaker 1: and I actually had to take a minute and go

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Speaker 1: through our files and our old stuff because I had

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Speaker 1: I thought, it's like, maybe we've talked about her. I

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Speaker 1: bet she's been mentioned before, because she's pretty iconic in

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Speaker 1: the US and continues to be someone that we look

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Speaker 1: at as a pioneer when it comes to activism within

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Speaker 1: the trance community, the queer community, as well as for

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Speaker 1: those who have been affected by the HIV AIDS epidemic.

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Speaker 1: So for a lot of us in the US, she

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Speaker 1: is a familiar name. I will say I didn't know

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Speaker 1: too much about her, but I do know kind of

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Speaker 1: about her, and I thought, you know what, we need

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Speaker 1: to talk We need to talk more about her. Let's

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Speaker 1: dedicate at least ten minutes. And y'all, I know that

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Speaker 1: sounds shameful and we should go more into it, but

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Speaker 1: we do want to talk about her accomplishments and the

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Speaker 1: things that she has contributed, especially during a time that

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Speaker 1: feels so dark. As we've talked about previously, you know,

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Speaker 1: we just want to keep highlighting those who've done so

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Speaker 1: much work already and continue to show how to fight

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Speaker 1: for the rights for everyone. So let's start ready, Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Any? Yeah? So, Miss Major as many people

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Speaker 1: know her as a leader in the trans community and

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Speaker 1: has been actively working for the rights of trans people

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Speaker 1: with her own experiences in transitioning and having to fight

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Speaker 1: the prejudice and persecution she faced growing up. So Griffin

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Speaker 1: Gracie has been involved in the drag ballroom world since

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Speaker 1: she was very young, starting in Chicago where she was from.

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Speaker 1: As in fact, in her teens she was coming prolong

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Speaker 1: and figuring out her identity and she met a performer

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Speaker 1: I believe her name was Miss Kitty, who helped her

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Speaker 1: learn how to dress up and how to wear makeup

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Speaker 1: and really taught her how to be herself right. And

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Speaker 1: her journey and finding her true self was not an

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Speaker 1: easy one during a time when being transgender was not

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Speaker 1: spoken about or understood it all, she was able to

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Speaker 1: learn to love herself and who she really was. Of course,

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Speaker 1: because of those difficult times she had to hide in

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Speaker 1: public and trying to keep it private due to the

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Speaker 1: fear of ridicule and persecution, even being expelled from college

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Speaker 1: after being exposed for having and wearing dresses in private.

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Speaker 1: In an interview with Raquel Willis for them, she said,

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Speaker 1: at that point, it was as it is now a

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Speaker 1: matter of survival. It's interesting to think about when I

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Speaker 1: was younger, the constraints in the way I had to

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Speaker 1: negotiate through in order to maintain breathing. Every day. It

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Speaker 1: becomes a matter of standing up for who we know

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Speaker 1: we are. It's not that we believe for this or

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Speaker 1: that we know that's who we are. When the dust settles,

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Speaker 1: and say I'm still in here. But I didn't discourage

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Speaker 1: her all of that, all of these out skills from

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Speaker 1: being her true self. She soon moved to New York

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Speaker 1: from Chicago in nineteen sixty two and was able to

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Speaker 1: But outside of that small community it was not the case.

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Speaker 1: She was regular at the now famous Stonewall Inn and

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Speaker 1: was part of the Stonewall Uprising also known as the

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Speaker 1: Stonewall Riots in nineteen sixty nine, right I believe she's

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Speaker 1: during that time. And that's in fact, while being interviewed

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Speaker 1: four Outwards, she spoke about her memories of that time,

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Speaker 1: of that time and reliving the memories, saying, quote, that's

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Speaker 1: not a party place anymore. For me, it's like going

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Speaker 1: The memories there are not pleasant. It's like, Oh, someone

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Speaker 1: I was there. I don't remember a shoe, a brick,

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Speaker 1: It's just not a fun thing. After the incident, Griffin

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Speaker 1: Gracie had several other incidents which resulted in arrest, including

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Speaker 1: was during her time in lock up she met Frank

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Speaker 1: and they put me in the mental institution first. That

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Speaker 1: after being released from incarceration, she moved to San Diego

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Speaker 1: Exclamation Point in twenty fifteen, which got a lot of claims.

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Speaker 1: our allies. We create safe and transformative spaces where members

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Speaker 1: She is still as the founder, I believe, and they

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Speaker 1: Of course, they've become more intersectional, and she has become

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Speaker 1: She's also executive produced documentaries such as Trans and trump

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Speaker 1: definitely has different websites and she has a lot of

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