1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where if we're fifteen and three 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: over the last few weeks. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna honk about it. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: with my friend who is on fire right now, Cynthia Freeland. 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Let's go Wooo, how are you good? I think you 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: need to do this more. Just a little bit of 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: a tip for your brand. When your picks are hot, 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: just just talk about it a lot, and when they're not, 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: just don't say anything. Because we're hot right now. When 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: I said fifteen and three, I went back. I did 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the numbers, I did the addition over the last three 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: weeks combined. He yeah, we are fifteen and three. Great, 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: you went three and oh let's go in week eleven 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: after I had a couple undefeated weeks, but I stayed 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: on the winning side, so I'm happy enough. And we're 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: both nineteen and fourteen on the season, so that's pretty 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: good as well. 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: So let's keep this hot streak going. So let's do it. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: We pick three games against the spread each and every week. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks we've been on the same 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: side and those have done well. We'll see if that 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: happens today, you give me your first pick. 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if something is working, I don't think that 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: you stray from it. And I actually believe and my 26 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: math actually supports picking against the Cowboys. Like she's doing 27 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: it again. I struggled with this. If it ain't broke, 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: don't forge, you're going to Okay, So there's a couple 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: of things here. The line is large. It is ten 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: ten and a half for Washington home, right, Okay, Washington's 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: at home. However, there's a couple of things here that 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: are a really big problem for the Cowboys, namely the 33 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: run game. They have Brian Robinson junior back. They have 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: Austin Eckler, who, by the way, the Cowboys also give 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: up the most receiving yards to the running back position. 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: It's twelve point seven is the average in terms of 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: YAK per catch two running. 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: Backs, and they're great. 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: That is what Eckler does. 40 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: So when I'm looking at this opportunity here in Cliff Kingsbury, 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: I know he knows the. 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: Narrative about him. The narrative is. 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: After nine weeks, the blub blue boo blah, right, like 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: things go downhill. Yeah, Okay, five and a half points 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: lest per game. I see that the giveaways they double. 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Also see that you know how you stop giveaways? Run 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: the football. Yeah, and you know what Jane Daniel does 48 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: really well, and you know what Brian Robinson Junior does 49 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: really well, runs between the tackles. 50 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 4: You know what all of these guys do. They keep 51 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: it on the ground. 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: So I think also with Zertz there, and we know 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 3: that zach Ertz is someone that Cliff Kingsbery. 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: Really loves to target. 55 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Okay, this is I'm in m Maybe you've convinced me. 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: I left him off my backline. 58 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: We've been we've been rolling over the Cowboys or saying 59 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: they're the worst team in the NFL. Watch that Monday 60 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: night game and it wasn't close in the end. 61 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: Nonother clue. Yeah, if they're not even playing Trey Lance. 62 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 3: One way you could interpret this is that they think 63 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: that they if they play him, things could get even 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: worse from a losing the locker room standpoint. 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: That's one way. That's because he's bad. 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't think they trust him for 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: whatever reason. 68 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: Do you think it's worse than what? 69 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: Anyways, my point is is, if that's what's going on, 70 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: if we're at a place where we don't even want 71 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: to try, what is that telling you? 72 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything about this team is a absolute and total mess. 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: And yet there is something about when I saw that 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: ten and a half line, I was like, it just 75 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: felt too felt too easy this week. But I had 76 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: to choose a side. I definitely have Washington. I have 77 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: them written down. They're put potentially in the box. Maybe 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: they're my third pick. I'll think about it. 79 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: I don't care. 80 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: I like playing, but there was something about it that 81 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: I thought this Cowboys defense is playing a little bit 82 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: better lately, and everyone's going to think they just roll 83 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: and could it just be eight or nine points of division? 84 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: I actually think most people think they won't like I 85 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: think that this is a tasty snack because I think 86 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: Cowboys fans want it back in on the party. 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: I might just do it just to show my fahit 88 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: in you and the system that we've been on. I 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: only you know when I'm doing well, and picked been 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: on a good streak lately. Yeah, if you go check 91 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: out game deview, they keep back against the spread as well, 92 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: and we're both well over five hundred. I'm like over 93 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: twenty over five hundred now for seasons, that's good. The 94 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: one game that I really was sure about this week 95 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, I gotta take that was 96 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: actually Titans plus eight. 97 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 2: And a half. I like the Titans this week. 98 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: It is giving me Broncos against the Chiefs a couple 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago vibes. 100 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: Now it's two lesser teams. 101 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: But I just don't think the Texans are worthy of 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: being favored by that much against anyone, especially not a 103 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: division opponent. I know it's a new coaching staff, so 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: we can't take too much away from. 105 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: The division thing. 106 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: But I don't have many like rules in terms of 107 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: my picks, but I do think you have to earn 108 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: being that big of a favor, and at some point 109 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you got to accept Texans fans and people that are 110 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: hoping for something different, like myself, like my son Walker, 111 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: who was CJ Stroud in Fantasy. 112 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: It's like, at some point you got to look. 113 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 4: At the numbers Walker, CJ, come on, you. 114 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: Gotta just recognize he's only had two top twelve Fantasy 115 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: weeks all season. At some point you gotta accept the 116 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: team that we see every week that is their team, 117 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: and that's just offensively, it's not the team that we 118 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: imagine the Texans to be. It's not the team I want. 119 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: They were actually making a sweat out that Cowboys game 120 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: just a little bit. I never thought the Cowboys offense 121 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: would get there, so I always felt okay, but the 122 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: Texans offense was bad. 123 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: They're funky. 124 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: They're twenty fourth in the league on offense right now, 125 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: third on defense, so I really trust their defense and 126 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: that's why they'll probably win this game. But to me, 127 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: they're similar to the Titans. Titans twenty eighth in the 128 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: league on offense, this is Dvoway eleventh on defense. Titans 129 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: stop the run. You make the Texans one dimensional. If 130 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: they're able to stop the run against Joe Mixon, the 131 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: pass rush then gets to CJ. 132 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: Stroud. They're in the same division. 133 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Titans are gonna win, but I 134 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: do think they'll cover eight and a half and it 135 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if the Titans won this game in 136 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: the end. I still't believe in the Texans right now. 137 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: It's just a weird thing about the Titans that they 138 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 4: have these good metrics, but then they allow every single 139 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 4: time an opponent gets into the red area to score. 140 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: And they never cover either. That's a problem. 141 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: But I'm just like, Okay, no, I still like it. 142 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Whatever, No, you don't have to like it. It's fine. This 143 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: is the one I felt good about, and that's fine. 144 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: It was like last week, the one I felt best about. 145 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: I was wrong. That was my one out. You gotta 146 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: go with how you feel. And I know it hasn't 147 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: totally shown up in the final score, but I promise 148 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: you Will Levis has been a better version of Will 149 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: Levis the last two weeks. Yeah, maybe the best version 150 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: of Will Levis we've seen. Taking a lot of sacks, 151 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: so he'll probably do that on Sunday, but not making 152 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: big mistakes and making good throws when he is throwing it. 153 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: So I just think this is gonna be a game 154 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: like all the other Texans games in the division against 155 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, against the Colts that they just sweat out 156 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: into the end. And it's a final position game, and 157 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: so I like getting in the eight and a half. 158 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: Give me your second. 159 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: Pick, my second pick. 160 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: I'm sticking with a theme of being bowld this week. 161 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: You know which team hasn't covered all season long, the Chiefs. 162 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: You know who's gonna cover this week? 163 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: Wow, the Chiefs with eleven points, that's a lot. 164 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: I don't care. I think this is what happens when 165 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: you lose a game. People are like, oh no, trap game? 166 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: Is it over? 167 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: Are they not? What's gonna Oh no, Patrick Mahomes, Oh 168 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: my god, what's gonna happen? 169 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: No? 170 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Uh uh. 171 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: This is where the Kareem hunt and maybe even Isaiah 172 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: Pacheco situation. 173 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: Being able to run against the Panthers defense. 174 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 175 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: Dj Warnam was good and against the Giants and they've had. 176 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: A week off. 177 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 4: Okay, still the same team, Like you know, bad defense. 178 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the defense is not great. It's decidedly ungreat. So 179 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: even though Chubahabber's coming off a great game, even though 180 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: eleven is a lot of points to surrender, I don't care. 181 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: I think this is where Patrick Mahomes says, you don't 182 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: think I can play on the East Coast. 183 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: You think it is blah blah blah blah blah. You're 184 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 4: worried about the Kicker situation. I don't care. 185 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: We're gonna just do. We're gonna go out there and 186 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: it's just eleven points. 187 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: No, I love it. 188 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I love it because it's what I want to see 189 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: when on a whole rant about it in the previous 190 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: show of like can you just looked like the Chiefs? 191 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's give me one? Yeah, thirty five point game, this 192 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: is the spot to do it. Great matchup. Also a 193 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: tough matchup for Bryce Young on the other side. Maybe 194 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: the pass rush for the Chiefs isn't great, but the 195 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: secondary will mix it up quite a bit. 196 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: They'll send some pressure at him. 197 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't have a strong take, but I'm definitely on 198 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: your side on this one, So I like that. I'm 199 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: going with your Lions, speaking of a heavy favorite as 200 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: my second pick. All right, Like I said this week, 201 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: even though I've been feeling it lately, the numbers didn't 202 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: speak to me as much this week. This was a 203 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: solid number two, and I'm still scrambling about number three. 204 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: The reason why I went with minus seven and a 205 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: half for the Lions is not just because they're one 206 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: of the best teams we've ever seen through ten weeks. 207 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: At this point, we can just say that, right, I can't. 208 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 1: You're making that, Jim from the office, look at the 209 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: camera there. 210 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: I know I just did. I mean, it's just. 211 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: And I know you know Aaron Shotts's numbers. I don't 212 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: know if those are competitors to yours, but they have 213 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: historical data of like their DVOA through ten weeks, they're 214 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: the number three so far all time, behind the seven 215 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: Patriots and one of those Washington teams in the nineties. 216 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's number one. 217 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: But the reason why I really liked the seven and 218 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a half was I think the matchups really bad for 219 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the Colts. How did the Colts win last week? Really 220 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: difficult throws? 221 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson went played lights out. This was the best 222 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: game he's played in his career. 223 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: Two hund and seventy two passing yards and his first 224 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 3: time having a completion percentage overexpected ever. 225 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: Okay, that's how they won, and it's because that's how 226 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: they had to win against the Jets, because their run 227 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: game wasn't making it happen. Against the Jets, Jonathan Taylor 228 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: had one of his worst games of the whole season. 229 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson quietly had one of his least successful games 230 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: on the ground in his career. Now they hit the 231 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: design runs on the goal line and that's massive. They 232 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: are going to be a really good red zone team, 233 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: which is why I think the number is as low, 234 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: even as it is, but you think about the matchup. 235 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: I think the one way you could beat the Lions 236 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: is a running game that can help support. But their 237 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: fourth and success rate against in the last month, they're 238 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: a really good run stopping team. This is a team 239 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: that likes to play a lot of man coverage. I 240 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: think you're gonna have to beat them through the air 241 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: again through low percentage passes. You're probably gonna have to 242 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: be playing from behind because the Colts defense is nothing great. 243 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: They just gave up twenty seven to the Jets. You know, 244 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: they couldn't run on the Jets, So I think the 245 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: Colts are okay. This isn't gonna be Jaguars versus Lions 246 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 1: or anything. I'm thinking it's more like a thirty four 247 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: to eighteen game. 248 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: And you know what, you. 249 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 4: Think, pretty darn closed. 250 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: I mean, no, that was thirty five points last week. 251 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: I just mean in the end, maybe it's a ten 252 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: point game in the fourth quarter, you're not like not 253 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: like sitting back and just got it riding this thing out. 254 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: But I think the Lions have too much and you 255 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: get Richardson having to pass so much. 256 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 2: I think that's a bad recipe. 257 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: The one thing I will say about the Lions and 258 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: what happened with the Jags is I'm looking at this 259 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: team and I think one of their strategies is to 260 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: work out some of the kinks. So I think part 261 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 3: of that last week's game against the Jags was to 262 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: I mean, sorry against the Texans prior to that, was 263 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: to get Jared Goff back in rhythm or whatever you 264 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 3: want to say. And so that's why I think they 265 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 3: kept being aggressive in this game. There is something that 266 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: they could look to kind of get knocked their rust 267 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: off a little bit, and that's Jared Goff. All nine 268 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: of his interceptions have come against his z oone defense, 269 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: and nobody plays more zone than the Bolts. So I 270 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: agree with you. I actually think the Lions could keep 271 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: scoring in that case, just because to me, like that's 272 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: an opportunity to they do. This is I don't there 273 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 3: are no words, because it is not something I'm used 274 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,359 Speaker 3: to in my lifetime. 275 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, the Lions are good. 276 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: I mean they're not just good. 277 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: Cynthia, for those who don't know, it's a diehard Lions fan, 278 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: and I've seen her struggle. 279 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 4: It's really hard, it's really really cool. 280 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: It's a tricky spot they're in now because now they're 281 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: like I just. 282 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: Wish these were week eighteen, right, They're not quite. 283 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: Like where Serena way where she said I'm only a 284 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: story when I lose, which is a tough place to be. 285 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: The Chiefs are in that place, right. The lines aren't 286 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: quite there. But at this point, anything short of a 287 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is a little bit disappointing, which is a 288 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: tough spot to be. You just got to get to 289 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: the one seat. I think they're really handling success well. 290 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: I think they cover seven and a half. What is 291 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: your final pick? 292 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: Okay, so my final pick is Minnesota minus three and 293 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: a half. I just think this number isn't right. I 294 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: know it's in Chicago. I'm aware that the Bears almost 295 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: knocked off the Packers last week. I understand that they 296 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: have a new offensive corner. Hey anyone heard that before. 297 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: But I also know that the Minnesota Vikings and Aaron 298 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: Jones are sitting here being like, ain't no way we're 299 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: gonna get knocked out of this playoff wild card situation. 300 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: Ain't no way we're going to like let the Packers 301 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: back into this situation. Three and a half is one 302 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 3: of the numbers, one of the lower numbers on the 303 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: entire week. This is a weird week with a lot 304 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 3: of big numbers, so I felt a little bit more 305 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 3: comfortable at just a little bit over a few goal 306 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 3: as opposed to the Denver minus five and a half, 307 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: which I also really like. And it was between those 308 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: two for me. But I think Minnesota they win by 309 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: at least four. I think that it's their defense and 310 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: the fact that their defense is very, very good against 311 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: the run, where a Chicago's defense, especially without Andrew Billings, 312 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: you can run all over these fools. So this is 313 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: a situation where I just think Minnesota it's they out 314 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: coach on both sides of the football the Bears. 315 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: That's a great call the coaching matchup because Thomas Brown, 316 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I think did a great did a great job first 317 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: week as his offensive corner. But it's a whole different 318 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: matchup having to go against this Brian Flores defense, and 319 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be ready for the scrambles 320 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: that Caleb Williams of. They'll actually have a week on 321 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: tape of what Thomas Brown did, which will help them out. 322 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with you. 323 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Let's go Okay, let's go. Let's be together, because yeah, 324 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: you kind of made up my mind. I was debating 325 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: between two games at the end, which for either Minnesota 326 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: or just a gut feel that the Packers are a 327 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: better team than the forty nine ers, and that would 328 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: have been my fourth pick. 329 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: And I know for a fact you're not on that side. 330 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: Anyways, it doesn't matter, but you help make make up 331 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: my decision that my third pick will also be Minnesota 332 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: minus three and a half. I've been fading the Bears 333 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: all year. It's mostly worked. Last week it very much 334 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: did not work. They were outstanding on offense, their defense 335 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: was problematic. I do think the Vikings will be able 336 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: to run the ball a little bit on Chicago and 337 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: potentially get a lead because you're not gonna have to 338 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: score a ton, so they can be patient with the 339 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: running game. I do worry a little bit about Sam 340 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: Darnold against some of the coverage mixes that they can 341 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: show you. And the Bears have a pretty good pass defense, 342 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: but their past rush has not been nearly as good 343 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: since the first month of the season when they were 344 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: getting it done. Not really sure how they were getting 345 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: it done, but they were getting it done, and they 346 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: haven't been as good. So I was debating. I was 347 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: kind of leaning green Bay. I was thinking about just 348 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: doing Washington just to be your friend here. I like that, 349 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: but I didn't love it. But now we can be 350 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: aligned because we're we're here together. 351 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: Another point and a half. 352 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: I think green Bay could have also been like that 353 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: Chicago game could have been a little bit of a 354 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: trap game because they could have been looking at the 355 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: forty nine ers this week. 356 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 4: And you know, obviously yea, I don't care like there. 357 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: You know that, you know Lafleur is not gonna let 358 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,359 Speaker 3: shant he does not. That is a the Lafleur Shanahan 359 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: thing is you know, they're all in the same tree, 360 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah like. But I do think it's 361 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: possible that they could have been looking just a little 362 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: bit ahead as opposed to focusing on the Bears quite 363 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: as much, because what you'd seen from the Bears in 364 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 3: weeks prior weren't a scary. 365 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Right, and we we tape this before we really know 366 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: the injury report, that's right, and the injury situation, and 367 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: part of the reason I was in on the Packers 368 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: are some of the injuries for the forty nine ers. 369 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: But that's kind of uncomfortable to bet on before we 370 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: really know it. Bosa perty is not one hundred percent. 371 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: If Bosa doesn't play, if George Kittle somehow doesn't play, 372 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: then everything will be different for how I feel A 373 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: Kittle is supposed to play, right, but like supposed to everyone. 374 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: Just so you know, and I've said this is Kyle 375 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: Shanhan's face, it's fine. He's a lying liar who lies. 376 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: He doesn't need to tell us. There's no legally bound 377 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: contract saying that he needs to tell us by this 378 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: amount of time. He does exactly Friday, the injured report. 379 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: He says what he has to say, ninety minutes before 380 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,119 Speaker 3: the game. He submits his little sheet. And Christian McCaffrey 381 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 3: is a great example of it. Like week one, we're like, oh, 382 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: he's playing, he's playing all of that. It's like ha, 383 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: I are, yeah, okay, But he didn't do anything that 384 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: was illegal or like not within the bounds of the rules. 385 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 4: But again, the lying liar who lies strikes again. 386 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: Or he could, Wow, I know you hit on something. 387 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: When I saw you got a reaction there in the 388 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: in the studio back there when you called Kyle, we. 389 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: Will be fine fibbing fibber who fish you will that 390 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 3: as the social No, don't clip that as a social 391 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: although it's not like he again, he knows, he knows, 392 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: he thinks it's funny. 393 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: He's not doing anything wrong. 394 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so too, I would lie too. 395 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: You took Washington, Washington for that at least the third 396 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: straight week you were you were going against. We did 397 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: it together, couple of straight weeks. And I agree with you. 398 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: It's just not one of my top three. You're also 399 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: gonna go Chiefs. They're favored by eleven in Carolina. And 400 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: then we're together. We're taking those road favorites, the Vices 401 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: in Chicago. 402 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: My three picks. 403 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: I like the Titans as an underdog plus eight and 404 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: a half. I like the Lions as a favorite on 405 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: the road minus seven and a half road favorites. 406 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: What a world we're in. What a world. 407 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: Then I'm with you on Minnesota. My little extra picks 408 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: for what it's worth. I do like the Packers this week. 409 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to pick the like. I just 410 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: think I just think they're a better team. Their offense, 411 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to me, is the one group in this game that 412 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: I really think is close to or is at okay, 413 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: but no, but here's here's what I would say. No, 414 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: they don't have a good pass rush. But the forty 415 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: nine Ers, they're not the offense that I expected. They 416 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: need too much of Juwan Jennings. Like Juwan Jennings is 417 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: their whole offense. It's not the Christian McCaffrey. Their defense, 418 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: whether they have Bosa or not, not what I expected. 419 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Not special Packers defense. Not in love with them to 420 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: rely on the turnover with that Packers offense, man, I 421 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: want to see yeah, I want to see you stop 422 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: them San Francisco, Like that's the part of the game 423 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: that I really trust. Agreed, And so I think they 424 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: get to twenty five, twenty eight points, and I just 425 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: think it's going to be too hard. 426 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: You think, wait, hold on, if Party is playing, if 427 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: Bosa is playing, still in on the package, if Kittle's playing, 428 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: You're still in on the pack. Just making sure want 429 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 4: to understand. 430 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: But Minnesota is my third pick to be official. 431 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 4: Can you say it right? Please? What Minnesota? 432 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: Minnesota? 433 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, Minnesota, And then. 434 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 435 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Commanders a little bit, and 436 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: that's about it. 437 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: I do like the Seahawks, but I wouldn't even put 438 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: them in the box. I just think I think they'll win. 439 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks are going to win too. 440 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 3: My only like hesitation is I have done really poorly 441 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: picking against the Cardinals. 442 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: So I've been picking. 443 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: I've been on the Cardinal side all season and that's 444 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: why I'll just stay away from that one. 445 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Let's cross it one out. Uh. 446 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: This was a pleasure as always. Yeah, we're not competing, 447 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: even though we're tied. Well, we are competing, but we're 448 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: trying to We're trying to win for the list and 449 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I've noticed like the listeners are going up on this thing, 450 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: people are completing. 451 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: I think it's because they know where we're giving them winners. 452 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: Cynthia love it and so check Cynthia out her YouTube 453 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: channel numbers Game Behind that's growing each and every week 454 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: to check us out on NFL Game Debut. 455 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: That is it for our week of shows at NFL Daily. 456 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday Night, Patrick Claybond and 457 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of course Nick Shook. 458 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: I am really or to that one. 459 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Yes, when the lion liar who lies is lying, you 460 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: know football is back.