WEBVTT - The Girlfriends S4/E2: So Help Me God 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:05.000 Hey, it's Nikki, the host of The Girlfriend's Untouchable. I'm 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:07.240 so glad that you've chosen to listen to this story 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.240 about my hometown, Kansas City, Kansas. But I just wanted 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.560 to give you a heads up that this episode will 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:19.000 touch on some difficult topics including violence, murder, suicide, and 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.360 sexual assault. And there are a handful of cus words too, 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.440 So if you or someone you love has been affected 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.319 by any of the themes in the show, we've left 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.160 some links in the description that offer resources and support 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:38.880 take care of yourself. The summer of nineteen ninety four 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.880 felt like it would last forever. The days were either 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.599 marked by glaring sunlight or the kind of thunderstorms that 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:51.760 cloaked Kansas City in an ominous fog. But the weather 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.040 paled in comparison to the grief casting a shadow over 0:00:56.160 --> 0:01:00.000 Nico Quinn's life in the months following her cousin Danielle's murder. 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.440 It was like it was a dark cloud over us 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.399 all and nobody really didn't say too much about it. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:14.039 Everybody just drank. I thought by drinking that it would 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:17.039 make me forget or make me feel like it's a. 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:23.040 Dream, But it wasn't. After the brutal shooting, Nico had 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:27.319 been relocated to a housing complex, but she was surrounded 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.880 by the men she thought were responsible. Nico was trying 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:33.960 to move through the grief by spending time with her 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.520 family when she got an unexpected call. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.160 My cousin called and was like, Hey, this white lady 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:42.640 came down here and two white men. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:44.959 He told her that at least one of them was 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.160 a police officer. I said what he said, Yeah, I 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.040 got a card here for you. I got two of them. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:51.360 You need to come down here and get in touch 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:53.480 these folks. And I'm like, all right, bo, I'll be 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.040 down there. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:58.040 So I drove down there and got the cards and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:03.000 it was terrim word Head and Galuski's car. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:08.040 Glupski is the police officer investigating Danielle and Donnie's murders 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.280 in Terra Moorehead in nineteen ninety four. She's an assistant 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:20.880 District Attorney for Wandotte County in Kansas City, Kansas. Nico 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:24.120 drives across town and makes her way to the DA's office. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.880 It's a brick building with a circular drive. She walks 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.359 through the glass lighting doors and makes her way down 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.359 the hallway until she finds her seat. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.480 I was sitting here waiting on her. She made me 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:41.600 sit there in that waiting area for maybe like hour 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:42.560 hour and a half. 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:48.520 Eventually, Nico is shown into a conference room. 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.760 It was just a table and chairs in there, a 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.079 white room and pictures and documents on the table. 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.680 Seated on the other side as a smartly dressed woman. 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:06.040 She was skinny, had a suit on like a blazer, heels, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.800 She had blonde hair, a pointing nose, a long chin. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.080 Assistant District Attorney Tara Moorehead. Nico had no reason to 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.760 be afraid of her, but she remembers more Head laying 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.480 photos out in front of her. They gave her a chill. 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.240 These pictures was the crime scene. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:28.880 Of her cousin, Donielle's murder. 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.119 Half his face was gone. I told her, I don't 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.720 need to see them pictures because I've seen it when 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:36.320 it happened. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.000 There are other pictures of Mennica recognizes. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.640 Pictures of my cousins and then of my uncle. 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.760 And a photo of the boy they arrested for the 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:52.840 double murder, local school kid, LaMotte McIntyre. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:57.040 And that's what she started telling me, that they had 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.560 all the evidence. Knowing that Lamon did it. They had 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.240 his clobe, they had the gun, they had all this 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:08.800 the same Rigamunrod that Gluski told me. She asked me, 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.840 wasn't not tired of losing my loved ones and don't 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:16.600 not want somebody hell responsible for killing my cousin? And 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.560 Lamont did it? I said, we know who did it. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.520 And I told her Monster. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:26.160 One of the dealers who had allegedly attacked Danielle just 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:27.480 stays before his murder. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.200 At first, she tried to draw me in like she 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:34.800 was my friend or like she cared. And she said, well, no, 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:38.200 we got evidence. We know this guy did it. We 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.400 have the clothing, we have the gun, we have all 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.039 this evidence. And I said, we don't care what you got. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.760 So when she showed me the picture of Lamont, I said, no, 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.520 he didn't do it, and she said her little spill, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:54.279 and I left and I went home. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.320 Nico was confused. Why were they so insistent on saying 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:09.960 that LaMonte McIntyre was the killer. According to Nico, Moorehead 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.200 called her back into her office once the date for 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:13.920 the preliminary hearing was set. 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.960 So I had to go up there again and sit 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:23.159 with her, and same thing same spiel about who did it. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:31.280 This time? Nico recalls that Morehead looked at her and said, you. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.880 Love your kids, right, Well, if you don't do what 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.640 I tell you to do, I will go get your 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.560 kids and I'll throw you in jail. Do you want 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:45.599 to see your kids again? And then that's when the 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:52.480 venom came out. I call her a cobra. She went 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:56.640 from being this kind person to being Eveline in two 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.800 point two seconds when I didn't give her or tell 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:08.480 her what she wanted. Oh God, why got I? 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:09.240 God? 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.000 I'm Nikki Richardson from the teams at Novel and iHeart Podcast. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:26.240 This is the girlfriend's untouchable and I got you a day. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:30.960 God, I'm a. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:40.920 I got you a episode two, So help me, God, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:54.080 I got you. And in June nineteen ninety four, seventeen 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.239 year old LaMotte McIntyre was in handcuffs. Instead of getting 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.760 ready to go back to school, he was stepping into 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.200 the county courthouse because he had been charged with a 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.200 double homicide. 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.320 So I had a pluminary here and come up. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.920 That's the hearing where they see what kind of evidence 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.480 they got on you to bound you over a trial, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:14.800 or if there's enough evidence to hold your charge of 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:16.160 whatever you say you charged with. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.320 Overlooking the court was a public gallery. It kind of 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.840 looked like a row of church pews facing the direction 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:29.320 of the judge. The prosecutor eighty A. Tarr Moorehead sat 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.920 on one side, and the defendant McIntyre and his attorney 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:35.120 sat on the other. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.840 I had all my family behind me, and my father, 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.720 my uncles and my cousins. Everybody was there. That was 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.440 my first plamb there here. That was my first time 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:44.200 in that situation. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:48.080 Lamont had watched films and TV shows set in court rooms, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.480 so he thought he knew what to expect. He thought 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:55.080 he would hear the prosecutor deliver a compelling argument followed 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:57.360 by some kind of evidence tying him to the crime. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:59.920 But that's not how it went down. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.360 But plumin in hearing was like it was a play 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.720 and I was the only one that didn't get a script. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.520 There were glaring plot holes, like the fact that the 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.240 prosecution didn't appear to have any physical evidence. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.320 I didn't have no way of trying to identify what 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.280 was going on with me. It was just happening and 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.680 I couldn't stop it, and it was just confusing. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.160 And my lawyers like, is anybody can put you in 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:23.760 the scene the crime. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.320 I'm like, man, listen, I don't know the scene of 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:26.760 the crime, and it is nobody can put me in 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.200 nowhere because I don't have nothing to do with it. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.040 According to the prosecution, there were two witnesses who could 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.800 Lamont watched on as a black woman in her early 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:44.440 twenties walked into the courtroom. She looked nervous and kept 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.679 her head down. The judge turned to Lamont and. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.160 He said, do you know this lady? I said no, I, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:49.880 oh no the lady. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.480 That lady was Nico Quinn. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:55.880 I was very nervous because I've never had to sit 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:57.440 there and do anything like that. 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.600 It was Nico's first time seeing Lama in person. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.959 Only time I seen Lamont was on pictures. And when 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:10.439 I first seen him physically and I seen him at 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.960 that table, I said, this dude is too tall and 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.319 his ears is too big. He couldn't have hidden them 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.440 ears under that head. 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.440 Nico knew the prosecution was going to ask her to 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:26.640 pick out the man arrested on suspicion of murder, but 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.880 now that she's seen Lamont in real life, she knew 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.880 for certain that he wasn't the man who had shot 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:35.840 her cousin. Nico had to find Tara Moorehead and tell 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:42.360 her that this was all a big mistake. In the recess, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.680 she went to go and find the prosecutor in her 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:49.439 room nearby. Morehead wasn't alone. There were police officers in 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:53.640 the room, but Nico still opened up about her reservations. 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.160 I said, the person that killed my cousins, you could 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.680 see this much of they head over the car. They 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.280 was the tall person. That was a short person that 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.920 killed him. And I kept telling her that, and she 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.719 pushed for that Lamont was the one, and the other 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.840 detectives kept saying Lamont did it. And I can tell no, 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.160 he's too tall and his ears are too big. That 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.120 was always my rebuttal to her. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.520 According to Nico, Moore had didn't want to know. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:25.000 That's when she threatened me again that she was gonna 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.920 throw my black ass in jail. She'll send the police 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.880 to go get my kids, and I'll never see him again. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.679 Moore had allegedly threatened to charge Nico with contempt of 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:36.960 court if she didn't comply. 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.120 She crossed her hands like this, and she looked over 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:47.120 at the officers, and she looked at me like, would 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:51.760 I say, what did I just tell you? And I 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:57.280 cried because I was upset. If I didn't say, Lamont 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.520 killed my cousin. I will not see my kids again ever, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.360 And like I tell her, you can throw me in jail. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.760 All that matters to me is my children. The only 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.160 love I had was the love for my children, and 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.960 I was not finna give that up for nobody. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.080 When the recess ends, Nico is called in the court. 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:31.080 She glances over at Morehead. Her head is spinning. The 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:35.440 woman before her is wealthy, respected, and well educated. Who 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:37.839 was going to believe a twenty one year old single 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:42.160 mother from Quendero over an assistant district attorney. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.559 I was young, I was in the streets. I wasn't 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.319 educated on the law. I wasn't educated on a lot 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.080 of things. I had street smarts, but I didn't know 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.839 that this woman could legally do this to me. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:05.840 After what feels like a lifetime, Nico's called to testify. 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.920 She stands up and walks across the room, each step 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.200 heavier than the one before. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.719 I walked so slow up there because I didn't want 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:15.200 to do it. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.240 She puts her hand on a Bible and the oath 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:18.840 is read out. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:21.680 Do you swear to tell the truth or not? But 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.720 the truth? So help you God, I said, I do. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:31.400 Nico looks across the courtroom sees Lamont, his family, the 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.480 police officers and more. 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:38.080 Had she asked me to point to him on this day, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.520 didn't you say this person killed your cousins? And I 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.040 looked at her because I never said that Lamon killed 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:49.600 my cousin. Never. She put her hand on her hip 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.520 and she looked at me. She looked over the detectives 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:56.040 like I can send them right now to go get 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:01.520 your kids. Everything in me was saying tell the truth, 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.120 tell the truth, tell the truth. And I know it 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.040 wasn't nothing, but the Holy Spirit tells me to tell 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:11.840 the truth. But at that time I didn't understand those feelings. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:16.600 The only thing I could see was my children. And 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.840 did I want to be explaining twenty plus years letter 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.760 to my children that I chose to tell the truth 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:32.040 to lose y'all. I'm praying Father, forgive me, forgive me. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.760 She looked up at me and she pointed at me 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:40.560 and said, that's him. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:46.319 I said, yes, on this day, that's who I said. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.719 I felt like I was dreaming. At that moment, I 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:59.720 felt like that wasn't me sitting there. I felt uneasy, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.800 felt weird. It's like I was watching somebody else's life 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:03.560 unravel like that. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:04.319 It wasn't mine. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.120 Lama was looking at me like I didn't do it, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:13.000 And when he stood up, I just cried. I just cried, 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:18.040 and I asked God to forgive me because I just 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:19.320 ruined this man's life. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:28.320 Another witness takes the stand, Nico's neighbor, the one who 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:30.440 called out Lamont at the murder scene. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:33.480 She come on the stand. Don't look at me. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.880 She sits down, and the judge asked her, do you 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.720 see the man in the court room the committed the crime. 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.320 For the first time, she looked up at me and 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.000 pointed at me. And I was looking at her like 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.680 so she can get a good look at my face, 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.600 like do you see? And she seen me and pointed 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.320 at me and said that's him. And that's when I said, 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:51.520 oh man, something's going on. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.040 The courthouse erupts. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.200 My whole family was like going crazy, like what's going on? 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.600 Some day line was going on. 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:04.080 Lamont's family had gone into court believing in him, but 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.600 with two witnesses to the crime testifying against him, The 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.920 room takes on an uneasy atmosphere. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.080 They were shocked, I think after they seen the preliminate hand. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.960 Most of my family probably lost hope and faith in 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.960 me after that, because after that it was like they 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.680 probably believed I probably did do that. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.040 But there's one person in the room who refuses to 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:30.760 doubt Lamont's innocence, his mother Rose. As she watches the 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:35.840 courthouse descend into chaos, she's reminded of a memory she 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.280 had tried her best to forget, a traumatizing event from 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.360 her past that she thinks is coming back to haunt 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:49.560 her because years earlier, Rose had got caught up in 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:54.400 the clutches of a predator, and it looks like that man, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:59.680 that police officer, has been following her and her family 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:27.840 all along. You. It's the late eighties in Kansas City, Kansas. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.800 Rose McIntyre is a devoted mother of five, but she 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.280 also loves going out into the town to dance and 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.600 let loose with her boyfriend Greg. After a fun night 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.280 out at a local club, she and Greg park up 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.760 on the side of the road. Rose sees a figure 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.120 approaching them. A flashlight shines through the window of the car. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.280 It's a police officer. Rose says. He showed them his 0:16:52.440 --> 0:17:02.280 badge and told them his name, Detective Roger Glubski. Rose 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.880 has given permission for her words to be read by 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.440 an actor as she describes what happened to her next. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.200 Detective Glupski ordered me to get out of the car 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.760 and come back to his car, which was parked right behind. 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.520 I was too scared to say anything, but Greg became 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.760 very upset, saying to Gelupski, what are you doing? This 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:22.679 is my girlfriend. 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:28.080 Detective Gulupski threatened Greg, telling him that he would get 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.800 arrested if he didn't shut up. Terrified and not knowing 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:36.600 what to do, Rose followed Gulupski's directions to go and 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.600 sit in the passenger seat in his unmarked police car. 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.320 Glupski told me I was a nice looking lady, then 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.080 made clear that he expected to get sexual favors from me. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.320 I felt frightened and powerless. He told her that if 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.280 she didn't want Greg to be arrested, she had to 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.200 meet him at the police station the next day. Told 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.199 me to come late between nine and ten pm, and 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.560 I did as he said. I was stunned and terrified, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.040 but I felt powerless to say no. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.080 So the next evening, she drives across the city and 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.640 down Minnesota Avenue to the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.359 It's a big brick building with marble pillars at the 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:28.399 entrance and tall windows up above. An officer who was 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:30.280 minding the desk buzzed her in. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.880 Kilyupski's office was right by the door, and I went in. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:41.120 He shut the door behind me. Gellupski then sat down 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.119 behind his desk. He began talking and told me he 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:48.200 liked black women. He said he could make it hard 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.680 or make it light for me, and that things would 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.080 go better for me if I complied. At that point, 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.359 he slid his chair out from behind the desk and 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:08.560 turned the lights out. According to Rose, Glupski sexually assaulted her. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.879 It's horrible. She's too scared of how he might retaliate 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.560 to try and fight back, but she feels a flash 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.159 of hope when she notices the office door opening. A 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:24.320 crack of light enters the room. I saw a white 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.080 uniformed officer in the doorway. 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.320 For a moment, it seems like somebody might intervene, But. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.359 When the officer saw Gallupski and me. He simply backed 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.479 out and shut the door. Gelupski never stopped what he 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.480 was doing, and the officer himself did not act surprised. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.800 Although there were other police around, no one came to 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:44.480 my assistance. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:51.920 Eventually it ended Gallupski let go, but Rose's ordeal wasn't over. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.080 He told me that he wanted an ongoing sexual relationship 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.280 with me. As soon as as Klyupski said I could leave, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.200 I left. I was terrified and sick to my stomach 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.200 and wanted to get home as fast as I could. 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:10.320 I felt dirty and totally humiliated. A man who had 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.840 total power over me had treated me like a whore 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.320 and forced me to submit to his sexual desires. I 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:17.800 kept what happened to myself. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.840 Rose couldn't tell her boyfriend because she worried that Kolyubski 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.960 might arrest him if she spoke out. She was too 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.080 scared to tell her friends and family because she feared 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:32.639 what might happen if they ended up on Glupski's radar, 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.400 and she couldn't report what had happened to the authorities 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:41.080 because Gallupski was the authority. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.000 After that awful day, Klupski harassed me for weeks, often 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.680 calling me two or three times a day. He told 0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:49.720 me that he wanted me to come back to his office. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.000 He wanted to do it again with me, and wanted 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:55.600 me to be his woman. I dreaded Klupski's calls and 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.280 continued to fear him, but sometimes I would talk to 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.960 him on the phone just to play k him so 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:02.679 he would not force me to come back down to 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.960 see him at the police station. He had total power, 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.680 and I was terrified that he would try to force 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.160 me again to provide sexual favors. 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.080 After a few months of what Rose recalls as near 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:24.159 constant harassment, she found a way to break free. She relocated, 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.720 changed her phone number, and tried her best to move on. 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.439 She focused her energy on being a good mother to 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:36.080 her children and dedicated her time to rebuilding her life. 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.320 After a few years passed without seeing Gelupski, Rose thought 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:45.600 she was in the clear, but then in nineteen ninety four, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.680 he forced his way back into her life by arresting 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:59.440 her son Lamont. Lamont's preliminary hearing took place in June 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:02.520 and the case to trial in the fall. It was 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:06.240 a harrowing experience for him and his entire family, but 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.480 the process was especially tough on Rose. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.840 I sat in the hallway the entire time. Both sides 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:14.840 had named me as a witness, so I was not 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:15.399 allowed to be. 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.240 In the courtroom, but neither side ended up calling her 0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:19.560 to testify. 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.840 So I ended up being isolated for no reason. Sitting 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.840 in the hallway during the trial was horrible. I felt 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:27.320 very scared and worried. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:30.880 The trial lasted four days and then the jury went 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:35.159 to deliberate. After what felt like a lifetime of sitting 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.879 in that hallway, Rose was eventually allowed back into the 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:46.719 courtroom to hear the verdict. The room steals to silence 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:52.080 Lamont stays in his position. The jury comes back into 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.920 the room and sends their representative up to the front 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:57.560 to reveal Lamont's fate. 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:01.960 When a jury came out with a guilty verdict, I screamed. 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.000 I was just screaming, like, y'all got the wrong person 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.960 on y'all convicting the innocent person. I didn't do anything right. 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.960 I started yelling and I felt somebody grab me real 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:16.840 tight from behind. I was shocked and I turned around as. 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:21.600 My mother, Rose throws her arms around her son. 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.720 She was grabbing me, and she was holding me so tight, 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.680 and she was crying, and I felt her pain. 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:35.160 Back then, Lamont didn't know anything about his mom's past 0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:39.040 with Gallupski. To him, they were just the cries of 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.119 a mother about to lose her son. But there was 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:47.640 so much more to ross pain. She'd spent years worrying 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:50.160 about what Gallupski might do to her if their paths 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:57.000 crossed again, but this was so much worse. Her seventeen 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:01.440 year old son was being marched away to a prison cell. 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:05.920 She was overcome by grief, but there was another emotion 0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.840 making its way through her body, a sickening sense of 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:17.160 suspicion and then guilt, because the more she thought about it, 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.960 the more she began to wonder had Detective Glupski used 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:26.280 his power to target her son as punishment for her 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:50.240 decision to break free I Got You. It's nineteen ninety 0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.119 four and La Motte McIntyre is on his way to 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.840 prison for a crime. He says he had nothing to 0:24:55.880 --> 0:25:01.960 do with Nico Quinn, who'd been intimidating into testifying against him, 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:08.040 feels awful. She's sure he's innocent, but in trying to 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.640 protect her children, she's been forced into help him put 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:18.760 someone else's child behind bars. She walks around Kansas City, 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.840 overwhelmed with guilt and despair. 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:30.400 I remember walking down Seventh Street. I remember that route 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.760 like it was yesterday, and I passed the store and 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.679 the guy at the store was asked me how I 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.320 was doing. I was like, he's okay, yeah, I just 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:46.359 want to go home. I got home and I remember 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:50.800 my youngest son greeting me at the door, and I 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:58.280 kind of, you know, kissy. I walked upstairs, closed my door. 0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.639 I wanted my kids to see me, and I just 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:07.720 sat on the bed and I just cried. And I 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:12.800