Speaker 1: Hey, it's Nikki, the host of The Girlfriend's Untouchable. I'm
Speaker 1: so glad that you've chosen to listen to this story
Speaker 1: about my hometown, Kansas City, Kansas. But I just wanted
Speaker 1: to give you a heads up that this episode will
Speaker 1: touch on some difficult topics including violence, murder, suicide, and
Speaker 1: sexual assault. And there are a handful of cus words too,
Speaker 1: So if you or someone you love has been affected
Speaker 1: by any of the themes in the show, we've left
Speaker 1: some links in the description that offer resources and support
Speaker 1: take care of yourself. The summer of nineteen ninety four
Speaker 1: felt like it would last forever. The days were either
Speaker 1: marked by glaring sunlight or the kind of thunderstorms that
Speaker 1: cloaked Kansas City in an ominous fog. But the weather
Speaker 1: paled in comparison to the grief casting a shadow over
Speaker 1: Nico Quinn's life in the months following her cousin Danielle's murder.
Speaker 2: It was like it was a dark cloud over us
Speaker 2: all and nobody really didn't say too much about it.
Speaker 2: Everybody just drank. I thought by drinking that it would
Speaker 2: make me forget or make me feel like it's a.
Speaker 1: Dream, But it wasn't. After the brutal shooting, Nico had
Speaker 1: been relocated to a housing complex, but she was surrounded
Speaker 1: by the men she thought were responsible. Nico was trying
Speaker 1: to move through the grief by spending time with her
Speaker 1: family when she got an unexpected call.
Speaker 2: My cousin called and was like, Hey, this white lady
Speaker 2: came down here and two white men.
Speaker 1: He told her that at least one of them was
Speaker 1: a police officer. I said what he said, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a card here for you. I got two of them.
Speaker 1: You need to come down here and get in touch
Speaker 1: these folks. And I'm like, all right, bo, I'll be
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 2: So I drove down there and got the cards and
Speaker 2: it was terrim word Head and Galuski's car.
Speaker 1: Glupski is the police officer investigating Danielle and Donnie's murders
Speaker 1: in Terra Moorehead in nineteen ninety four. She's an assistant
Speaker 1: District Attorney for Wandotte County in Kansas City, Kansas. Nico
Speaker 1: drives across town and makes her way to the DA's office.
Speaker 1: It's a brick building with a circular drive. She walks
Speaker 1: through the glass lighting doors and makes her way down
Speaker 1: the hallway until she finds her seat.
Speaker 2: I was sitting here waiting on her. She made me
Speaker 2: sit there in that waiting area for maybe like hour
Speaker 2: hour and a half.
Speaker 1: Eventually, Nico is shown into a conference room.
Speaker 2: It was just a table and chairs in there, a
Speaker 2: white room and pictures and documents on the table.
Speaker 1: Seated on the other side as a smartly dressed woman.
Speaker 2: She was skinny, had a suit on like a blazer, heels,
Speaker 2: She had blonde hair, a pointing nose, a long chin.
Speaker 1: Assistant District Attorney Tara Moorehead. Nico had no reason to
Speaker 1: be afraid of her, but she remembers more Head laying
Speaker 1: photos out in front of her. They gave her a chill.
Speaker 2: These pictures was the crime scene.
Speaker 1: Of her cousin, Donielle's murder.
Speaker 2: Half his face was gone. I told her, I don't
Speaker 2: need to see them pictures because I've seen it when
Speaker 2: it happened.
Speaker 1: There are other pictures of Mennica recognizes.
Speaker 2: Pictures of my cousins and then of my uncle.
Speaker 1: And a photo of the boy they arrested for the
Speaker 1: double murder, local school kid, LaMotte McIntyre.
Speaker 2: And that's what she started telling me, that they had
Speaker 2: all the evidence. Knowing that Lamon did it. They had
Speaker 2: his clobe, they had the gun, they had all this
Speaker 2: the same Rigamunrod that Gluski told me. She asked me,
Speaker 2: wasn't not tired of losing my loved ones and don't
Speaker 2: not want somebody hell responsible for killing my cousin? And
Speaker 2: Lamont did it? I said, we know who did it.
Speaker 2: And I told her Monster.
Speaker 1: One of the dealers who had allegedly attacked Danielle just
Speaker 1: stays before his murder.
Speaker 2: At first, she tried to draw me in like she
Speaker 2: was my friend or like she cared. And she said, well, no,
Speaker 2: we got evidence. We know this guy did it. We
Speaker 2: have the clothing, we have the gun, we have all
Speaker 2: this evidence. And I said, we don't care what you got.
Speaker 2: So when she showed me the picture of Lamont, I said, no,
Speaker 2: he didn't do it, and she said her little spill,
Speaker 2: and I left and I went home.
Speaker 1: Nico was confused. Why were they so insistent on saying
Speaker 1: that LaMonte McIntyre was the killer. According to Nico, Moorehead
Speaker 1: called her back into her office once the date for
Speaker 1: the preliminary hearing was set.
Speaker 2: So I had to go up there again and sit
Speaker 2: with her, and same thing same spiel about who did it.
Speaker 1: This time? Nico recalls that Morehead looked at her and said, you.
Speaker 2: Love your kids, right, Well, if you don't do what
Speaker 2: I tell you to do, I will go get your
Speaker 2: kids and I'll throw you in jail. Do you want
Speaker 2: to see your kids again? And then that's when the
Speaker 2: venom came out. I call her a cobra. She went
Speaker 2: from being this kind person to being Eveline in two
Speaker 2: point two seconds when I didn't give her or tell
Speaker 2: her what she wanted. Oh God, why got I?
Speaker 3: God?
Speaker 1: I'm Nikki Richardson from the teams at Novel and iHeart Podcast.
Speaker 1: This is the girlfriend's untouchable and I got you a day.
Speaker 4: God, I'm a.
Speaker 1: I got you a episode two, So help me, God,
Speaker 1: I got you. And in June nineteen ninety four, seventeen
Speaker 1: year old LaMotte McIntyre was in handcuffs. Instead of getting
Speaker 1: ready to go back to school, he was stepping into
Speaker 1: the county courthouse because he had been charged with a
Speaker 1: double homicide.
Speaker 5: So I had a pluminary here and come up.
Speaker 3: That's the hearing where they see what kind of evidence
Speaker 3: they got on you to bound you over a trial,
Speaker 3: or if there's enough evidence to hold your charge of
Speaker 3: whatever you say you charged with.
Speaker 1: Overlooking the court was a public gallery. It kind of
Speaker 1: looked like a row of church pews facing the direction
Speaker 1: of the judge. The prosecutor eighty A. Tarr Moorehead sat
Speaker 1: on one side, and the defendant McIntyre and his attorney
Speaker 1: sat on the other.
Speaker 3: I had all my family behind me, and my father,
Speaker 3: my uncles and my cousins. Everybody was there. That was
Speaker 3: my first plamb there here. That was my first time
Speaker 3: in that situation.
Speaker 1: Lamont had watched films and TV shows set in court rooms,
Speaker 1: so he thought he knew what to expect. He thought
Speaker 1: he would hear the prosecutor deliver a compelling argument followed
Speaker 1: by some kind of evidence tying him to the crime.
Speaker 1: But that's not how it went down.
Speaker 3: But plumin in hearing was like it was a play
Speaker 3: and I was the only one that didn't get a script.
Speaker 1: There were glaring plot holes, like the fact that the
Speaker 1: prosecution didn't appear to have any physical evidence.
Speaker 3: I didn't have no way of trying to identify what
Speaker 3: was going on with me. It was just happening and
Speaker 3: I couldn't stop it, and it was just confusing.
Speaker 5: And my lawyers like, is anybody can put you in
Speaker 5: the scene the crime.
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, listen, I don't know the scene of
Speaker 3: the crime, and it is nobody can put me in
Speaker 3: nowhere because I don't have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: According to the prosecution, there were two witnesses who could
Speaker 1: Lamont watched on as a black woman in her early
Speaker 1: twenties walked into the courtroom. She looked nervous and kept
Speaker 1: her head down. The judge turned to Lamont and.
Speaker 5: He said, do you know this lady? I said no, I,
Speaker 5: oh no the lady.
Speaker 1: That lady was Nico Quinn.
Speaker 2: I was very nervous because I've never had to sit
Speaker 2: there and do anything like that.
Speaker 1: It was Nico's first time seeing Lama in person.
Speaker 2: Only time I seen Lamont was on pictures. And when
Speaker 2: I first seen him physically and I seen him at
Speaker 2: that table, I said, this dude is too tall and
Speaker 2: his ears is too big. He couldn't have hidden them
Speaker 2: ears under that head.
Speaker 1: Nico knew the prosecution was going to ask her to
Speaker 1: pick out the man arrested on suspicion of murder, but
Speaker 1: now that she's seen Lamont in real life, she knew
Speaker 1: for certain that he wasn't the man who had shot
Speaker 1: her cousin. Nico had to find Tara Moorehead and tell
Speaker 1: her that this was all a big mistake. In the recess,
Speaker 1: she went to go and find the prosecutor in her
Speaker 1: room nearby. Morehead wasn't alone. There were police officers in
Speaker 1: the room, but Nico still opened up about her reservations.
Speaker 2: I said, the person that killed my cousins, you could
Speaker 2: see this much of they head over the car. They
Speaker 2: was the tall person. That was a short person that
Speaker 2: killed him. And I kept telling her that, and she
Speaker 2: pushed for that Lamont was the one, and the other
Speaker 2: detectives kept saying Lamont did it. And I can tell no,
Speaker 2: he's too tall and his ears are too big. That
Speaker 2: was always my rebuttal to her.
Speaker 1: According to Nico, Moore had didn't want to know.
Speaker 2: That's when she threatened me again that she was gonna
Speaker 2: throw my black ass in jail. She'll send the police
Speaker 2: to go get my kids, and I'll never see him again.
Speaker 1: Moore had allegedly threatened to charge Nico with contempt of
Speaker 1: court if she didn't comply.
Speaker 2: She crossed her hands like this, and she looked over
Speaker 2: at the officers, and she looked at me like, would
Speaker 2: I say, what did I just tell you? And I
Speaker 2: cried because I was upset. If I didn't say, Lamont
Speaker 2: killed my cousin. I will not see my kids again ever,
Speaker 2: And like I tell her, you can throw me in jail.
Speaker 2: All that matters to me is my children. The only
Speaker 2: love I had was the love for my children, and
Speaker 2: I was not finna give that up for nobody.
Speaker 1: When the recess ends, Nico is called in the court.
Speaker 1: She glances over at Morehead. Her head is spinning. The
Speaker 1: woman before her is wealthy, respected, and well educated. Who
Speaker 1: was going to believe a twenty one year old single
Speaker 1: mother from Quendero over an assistant district attorney.
Speaker 2: I was young, I was in the streets. I wasn't
Speaker 2: educated on the law. I wasn't educated on a lot
Speaker 2: of things. I had street smarts, but I didn't know
Speaker 2: that this woman could legally do this to me.
Speaker 1: After what feels like a lifetime, Nico's called to testify.
Speaker 1: She stands up and walks across the room, each step
Speaker 1: heavier than the one before.
Speaker 2: I walked so slow up there because I didn't want
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 1: She puts her hand on a Bible and the oath
Speaker 1: is read out.
Speaker 2: Do you swear to tell the truth or not? But
Speaker 2: the truth? So help you God, I said, I do.
Speaker 1: Nico looks across the courtroom sees Lamont, his family, the
Speaker 1: police officers and more.
Speaker 2: Had she asked me to point to him on this day,
Speaker 2: didn't you say this person killed your cousins? And I
Speaker 2: looked at her because I never said that Lamon killed
Speaker 2: my cousin. Never. She put her hand on her hip
Speaker 2: and she looked at me. She looked over the detectives
Speaker 2: like I can send them right now to go get
Speaker 2: your kids. Everything in me was saying tell the truth,
Speaker 2: tell the truth, tell the truth. And I know it
Speaker 2: wasn't nothing, but the Holy Spirit tells me to tell
Speaker 2: the truth. But at that time I didn't understand those feelings.
Speaker 2: The only thing I could see was my children. And
Speaker 2: did I want to be explaining twenty plus years letter
Speaker 2: to my children that I chose to tell the truth
Speaker 2: to lose y'all. I'm praying Father, forgive me, forgive me.
Speaker 5: She looked up at me and she pointed at me
Speaker 5: and said, that's him.
Speaker 2: I said, yes, on this day, that's who I said.
Speaker 3: I felt like I was dreaming. At that moment, I
Speaker 3: felt like that wasn't me sitting there. I felt uneasy,
Speaker 3: felt weird. It's like I was watching somebody else's life
Speaker 3: unravel like that.
Speaker 5: It wasn't mine.
Speaker 2: Lama was looking at me like I didn't do it,
Speaker 2: And when he stood up, I just cried. I just cried,
Speaker 2: and I asked God to forgive me because I just
Speaker 2: ruined this man's life.
Speaker 1: Another witness takes the stand, Nico's neighbor, the one who
Speaker 1: called out Lamont at the murder scene.
Speaker 5: She come on the stand. Don't look at me.
Speaker 3: She sits down, and the judge asked her, do you
Speaker 3: see the man in the court room the committed the crime.
Speaker 3: For the first time, she looked up at me and
Speaker 3: pointed at me. And I was looking at her like
Speaker 3: so she can get a good look at my face,
Speaker 3: like do you see? And she seen me and pointed
Speaker 3: at me and said that's him. And that's when I said,
Speaker 3: oh man, something's going on.
Speaker 1: The courthouse erupts.
Speaker 3: My whole family was like going crazy, like what's going on?
Speaker 3: Some day line was going on.
Speaker 1: Lamont's family had gone into court believing in him, but
Speaker 1: with two witnesses to the crime testifying against him, The
Speaker 1: room takes on an uneasy atmosphere.
Speaker 3: They were shocked, I think after they seen the preliminate hand.
Speaker 3: Most of my family probably lost hope and faith in
Speaker 3: me after that, because after that it was like they
Speaker 3: probably believed I probably did do that.
Speaker 1: But there's one person in the room who refuses to
Speaker 1: doubt Lamont's innocence, his mother Rose. As she watches the
Speaker 1: courthouse descend into chaos, she's reminded of a memory she
Speaker 1: had tried her best to forget, a traumatizing event from
Speaker 1: her past that she thinks is coming back to haunt
Speaker 1: her because years earlier, Rose had got caught up in
Speaker 1: the clutches of a predator, and it looks like that man,
Speaker 1: that police officer, has been following her and her family
Speaker 1: all along. You. It's the late eighties in Kansas City, Kansas.
Speaker 1: Rose McIntyre is a devoted mother of five, but she
Speaker 1: also loves going out into the town to dance and
Speaker 1: let loose with her boyfriend Greg. After a fun night
Speaker 1: out at a local club, she and Greg park up
Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Rose sees a figure
Speaker 1: approaching them. A flashlight shines through the window of the car.
Speaker 1: It's a police officer. Rose says. He showed them his
Speaker 1: badge and told them his name, Detective Roger Glubski. Rose
Speaker 1: has given permission for her words to be read by
Speaker 1: an actor as she describes what happened to her next.
Speaker 4: Detective Glupski ordered me to get out of the car
Speaker 4: and come back to his car, which was parked right behind.
Speaker 4: I was too scared to say anything, but Greg became
Speaker 4: very upset, saying to Gelupski, what are you doing? This
Speaker 4: is my girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Detective Gulupski threatened Greg, telling him that he would get
Speaker 1: arrested if he didn't shut up. Terrified and not knowing
Speaker 1: what to do, Rose followed Gulupski's directions to go and
Speaker 1: sit in the passenger seat in his unmarked police car.
Speaker 4: Glupski told me I was a nice looking lady, then
Speaker 4: made clear that he expected to get sexual favors from me.
Speaker 4: I felt frightened and powerless. He told her that if
Speaker 4: she didn't want Greg to be arrested, she had to
Speaker 4: meet him at the police station the next day. Told
Speaker 4: me to come late between nine and ten pm, and
Speaker 4: I did as he said. I was stunned and terrified,
Speaker 4: but I felt powerless to say no.
Speaker 1: So the next evening, she drives across the city and
Speaker 1: down Minnesota Avenue to the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department.
Speaker 1: It's a big brick building with marble pillars at the
Speaker 1: entrance and tall windows up above. An officer who was
Speaker 1: minding the desk buzzed her in.
Speaker 4: Kilyupski's office was right by the door, and I went in.
Speaker 4: He shut the door behind me. Gellupski then sat down
Speaker 4: behind his desk. He began talking and told me he
Speaker 4: liked black women. He said he could make it hard
Speaker 4: or make it light for me, and that things would
Speaker 4: go better for me if I complied. At that point,
Speaker 4: he slid his chair out from behind the desk and
Speaker 4: turned the lights out. According to Rose, Glupski sexually assaulted her.
Speaker 4: It's horrible. She's too scared of how he might retaliate
Speaker 4: to try and fight back, but she feels a flash
Speaker 4: of hope when she notices the office door opening. A
Speaker 4: crack of light enters the room. I saw a white
Speaker 4: uniformed officer in the doorway.
Speaker 1: For a moment, it seems like somebody might intervene, But.
Speaker 4: When the officer saw Gallupski and me. He simply backed
Speaker 4: out and shut the door. Gelupski never stopped what he
Speaker 4: was doing, and the officer himself did not act surprised.
Speaker 4: Although there were other police around, no one came to
Speaker 4: my assistance.
Speaker 1: Eventually it ended Gallupski let go, but Rose's ordeal wasn't over.
Speaker 4: He told me that he wanted an ongoing sexual relationship
Speaker 4: with me. As soon as as Klyupski said I could leave,
Speaker 4: I left. I was terrified and sick to my stomach
Speaker 4: and wanted to get home as fast as I could.
Speaker 4: I felt dirty and totally humiliated. A man who had
Speaker 4: total power over me had treated me like a whore
Speaker 4: and forced me to submit to his sexual desires. I
Speaker 4: kept what happened to myself.
Speaker 1: Rose couldn't tell her boyfriend because she worried that Kolyubski
Speaker 1: might arrest him if she spoke out. She was too
Speaker 1: scared to tell her friends and family because she feared
Speaker 1: what might happen if they ended up on Glupski's radar,
Speaker 1: and she couldn't report what had happened to the authorities
Speaker 1: because Gallupski was the authority.
Speaker 4: After that awful day, Klupski harassed me for weeks, often
Speaker 4: calling me two or three times a day. He told
Speaker 4: me that he wanted me to come back to his office.
Speaker 4: He wanted to do it again with me, and wanted
Speaker 4: me to be his woman. I dreaded Klupski's calls and
Speaker 4: continued to fear him, but sometimes I would talk to
Speaker 4: him on the phone just to play k him so
Speaker 4: he would not force me to come back down to
Speaker 4: see him at the police station. He had total power,
Speaker 4: and I was terrified that he would try to force
Speaker 4: me again to provide sexual favors.
Speaker 1: After a few months of what Rose recalls as near
Speaker 1: constant harassment, she found a way to break free. She relocated,
Speaker 1: changed her phone number, and tried her best to move on.
Speaker 1: She focused her energy on being a good mother to
Speaker 1: her children and dedicated her time to rebuilding her life.
Speaker 1: After a few years passed without seeing Gelupski, Rose thought
Speaker 1: she was in the clear, but then in nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 1: he forced his way back into her life by arresting
Speaker 1: her son Lamont. Lamont's preliminary hearing took place in June
Speaker 1: and the case to trial in the fall. It was
Speaker 1: a harrowing experience for him and his entire family, but
Speaker 1: the process was especially tough on Rose.
Speaker 4: I sat in the hallway the entire time. Both sides
Speaker 4: had named me as a witness, so I was not
Speaker 4: allowed to be.
Speaker 1: In the courtroom, but neither side ended up calling her
Speaker 1: to testify.
Speaker 4: So I ended up being isolated for no reason. Sitting
Speaker 4: in the hallway during the trial was horrible. I felt
Speaker 4: very scared and worried.
Speaker 1: The trial lasted four days and then the jury went
Speaker 1: to deliberate. After what felt like a lifetime of sitting
Speaker 1: in that hallway, Rose was eventually allowed back into the
Speaker 1: courtroom to hear the verdict. The room steals to silence
Speaker 1: Lamont stays in his position. The jury comes back into
Speaker 1: the room and sends their representative up to the front
Speaker 1: to reveal Lamont's fate.
Speaker 5: When a jury came out with a guilty verdict, I screamed.
Speaker 3: I was just screaming, like, y'all got the wrong person
Speaker 3: on y'all convicting the innocent person. I didn't do anything right.
Speaker 3: I started yelling and I felt somebody grab me real
Speaker 3: tight from behind. I was shocked and I turned around as.
Speaker 1: My mother, Rose throws her arms around her son.
Speaker 3: She was grabbing me, and she was holding me so tight,
Speaker 3: and she was crying, and I felt her pain.
Speaker 1: Back then, Lamont didn't know anything about his mom's past
Speaker 1: with Gallupski. To him, they were just the cries of
Speaker 1: a mother about to lose her son. But there was
Speaker 1: so much more to ross pain. She'd spent years worrying
Speaker 1: about what Gallupski might do to her if their paths
Speaker 1: crossed again, but this was so much worse. Her seventeen
Speaker 1: year old son was being marched away to a prison cell.
Speaker 1: She was overcome by grief, but there was another emotion
Speaker 1: making its way through her body, a sickening sense of
Speaker 1: suspicion and then guilt, because the more she thought about it,
Speaker 1: the more she began to wonder had Detective Glupski used
Speaker 1: his power to target her son as punishment for her
Speaker 1: decision to break free I Got You. It's nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: four and La Motte McIntyre is on his way to
Speaker 1: prison for a crime. He says he had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Nico Quinn, who'd been intimidating into testifying against him,
Speaker 1: feels awful. She's sure he's innocent, but in trying to
Speaker 1: protect her children, she's been forced into help him put
Speaker 1: someone else's child behind bars. She walks around Kansas City,
Speaker 1: overwhelmed with guilt and despair.
Speaker 2: I remember walking down Seventh Street. I remember that route
Speaker 2: like it was yesterday, and I passed the store and
Speaker 2: the guy at the store was asked me how I
Speaker 2: was doing. I was like, he's okay, yeah, I just
Speaker 2: want to go home. I got home and I remember
Speaker 2: my youngest son greeting me at the door, and I
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, kissy. I walked upstairs, closed my door.
Speaker 2: I wanted my kids to see me, and I just
Speaker 2: sat on the bed and I just cried. And I
Speaker 2: had some prescription of antidepressant that the doctor had gave
Speaker 2: me because I couldn't sleep, and I took a hand
Speaker 2: full of and I heard stop and it scared me,
Speaker 2: and I stuck my hand in my mouth and I
Speaker 2: just started throwing up because I thought about my kids,
Speaker 2: and I heard the Holy Spirit say, who's gonna fix it?
Speaker 2: If you die, Who's gonna fix it? And from that
Speaker 2: day forward, I worked on trying to make my own right.
Speaker 1: La Mott had been convicted on two witness statements, including
Speaker 1: nkos not solid evidence. She thought that recanting her testimony
Speaker 1: might help fix things, so she went back to the
Speaker 1: person who she says coerced her into giving it, the
Speaker 1: assistant district attorney.
Speaker 2: I said something to Tarry Morehead about what she was
Speaker 2: doing to me wasn't fair and it wasn't right. And
Speaker 2: she asked me, who was I gonna tell? Who's gonna
Speaker 2: believe me over her? Is what she told me. And
Speaker 2: that feel like somebody knocking all of the error out
Speaker 2: of you for her to tell me that, because I'm
Speaker 2: looking at her being a white woman, been a prosecutor,
Speaker 2: and me a black girl, who gonna believe me?
Speaker 1: We reached out to Tara Moorehead and her lawyer to
Speaker 1: ask her about Nico's claims of witness intimidation. She did
Speaker 1: not wish to provide a comment. Back then, Nico wasn't
Speaker 1: ready to give up hope. She thought that if she
Speaker 1: could find a way to understand the legal system, she
Speaker 1: could help fix things.
Speaker 2: I would read a lot, I would go to the
Speaker 2: library and look at different legal books and try to
Speaker 2: find out a way. I talked to so many different
Speaker 2: people on how I can go about trying to get
Speaker 2: Lamart home.
Speaker 1: Nico was a mother, so she couldn't help but imagine
Speaker 1: the pain that Lamont's mom, Rose McIntyre, was experiencing.
Speaker 2: I remember when she used to work at the liquor
Speaker 2: store on Tenth Street, and I would go down there
Speaker 2: and I would talk to her. Sometimes I would see
Speaker 2: her walking up and down Gwin Gurl late at night.
Speaker 2: I will follow her just to, you know, kind of
Speaker 2: make sure she would say or whatever that nothing happened
Speaker 2: to her out there. And I just would cry because
Speaker 2: I felt like I destroyed this woman's life. And all
Speaker 2: I could do was ask God for forgiveness and wanted
Speaker 2: to make it right.
Speaker 1: After being given two life sentences, Lamont was sent to
Speaker 1: a prison called Hutchinson Correctional Facility, a large state prison
Speaker 1: in Kansas.
Speaker 3: I cried and I sat there and I just couldn't
Speaker 3: believe I was there, and I couldn't leave. I was stuck,
Speaker 3: and that just convicted me of two murders. I didn't
Speaker 3: know how to process that. I was sad and I
Speaker 3: couldn't get out of it. I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: I knew what to think.
Speaker 1: He called home to talk to his mother.
Speaker 3: My grandmother asked the phone, so I said, with my
Speaker 3: mother as she said she's not here, and she started crying,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what do you mean she's not here?
Speaker 3: She said, she's in the mental hospital. So my mother
Speaker 3: had a break down.
Speaker 1: She couldn't take Nico went to visit Roads when she
Speaker 1: got out, I was telling her what happened, and then
Speaker 1: me and her begin having a relationship.
Speaker 2: We would talk more. I would be down there trying
Speaker 2: to help her, you know, get dressed, or if she
Speaker 2: was having a bad day, trying to help her get
Speaker 2: with She. We was always together and I'll try to
Speaker 2: make her laugh, and we had a real good relationship
Speaker 2: at that time. And I would just pray for her.
Speaker 2: I would pray that God would take that pain away
Speaker 2: from her, that he would give her some type of
Speaker 2: strength to continue to go through this. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to make things right with her.
Speaker 1: Nico recanted her testimony again, this time and a sworn
Speaker 1: affidavit so Lamont's lawyer could argue that he deserved a
Speaker 1: new trie. When that motion was denied, Nico began her
Speaker 1: own campaign.
Speaker 2: I'll start seeing little things on TV about, you know,
Speaker 2: people's family members getting murdered, and they would go to
Speaker 2: Mantel Williams Queen Latifa.
Speaker 1: It was the nineties, long before an online petition or
Speaker 1: social media campaign could draw attention to a case of injustice,
Speaker 1: So Nico wrote letters to the most famous people she
Speaker 1: could think of, hoping one of them might be able
Speaker 1: to help put a spotlight on Lamont's case. She kept
Speaker 1: Rose updated.
Speaker 2: When I would talk to her, I would tell her, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm writing Oprah, I'm writing Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake Paruto.
Speaker 1: She sent a bunch of letters, but nothing came of them.
Speaker 2: And I just felt like our story would never get
Speaker 2: out there. Nobody would ever know what happened in Kansas City,
Speaker 2: Kansas and what we went through. When we was going.
Speaker 1: Through, Lamont was defeated, felt guilty, and Rose was inconsolable.
Speaker 1: Each of their lives had been devastated by Roger Glupski,
Speaker 1: but what they didn't know at the time was that
Speaker 1: this was just the beginning and they weren't alone. Glupski
Speaker 1: had many, many more victims, and his methods were darker
Speaker 1: than they could have ever imagined. But they were going
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it, fight for justice,
Speaker 1: and finally uncover the truth. Coming up on the girlfriends Untouchable,
Speaker 1: the Roger Glupski thing popped up in my lawyer's face.
Speaker 1: My phone immediately started ringing people saying, Hey, I know
Speaker 1: that guy, I know what he did to this person.
Speaker 1: This is horrific, This is horrible.
Speaker 3: He did not receive a fair There's only one reason
Speaker 3: why you do that, to protect corrupt cops.
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Speaker 1: is narrated by me Nicki Richardson. It was written and
Speaker 1: produced by Rufarro Masarua. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Our
Speaker 1: assistant producer is Mohammed Ahmed. The researcher is Zaiana Yusef.
Speaker 1: Production management from Shuri Houston and Joe Savage. The fact
Speaker 1: checker is Fendel Fulton. Sound design, mixing and scoring by
Speaker 1: Daniel Kimpson with additional engineering by Nicholas Alexander. Music supervision
Speaker 1: by Rufarro Masarua, Nicholas Alexander and Joe Wheeler. Original music
Speaker 1: by a Manager Jones. The Girlfriend's theme was composed by
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