1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Nikki, the host of The Girlfriend's Untouchable. I'm 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: so glad that you've chosen to listen to this story 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: about my hometown, Kansas City, Kansas. But I just wanted 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: to give you a heads up that this episode will 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: touch on some difficult topics including violence, murder, suicide, and 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: sexual assault. And there are a handful of cus words too, 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: So if you or someone you love has been affected 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: by any of the themes in the show, we've left 9 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: some links in the description that offer resources and support 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: take care of yourself. The summer of nineteen ninety four 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: felt like it would last forever. The days were either 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: marked by glaring sunlight or the kind of thunderstorms that 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: cloaked Kansas City in an ominous fog. But the weather 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: paled in comparison to the grief casting a shadow over 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Nico Quinn's life in the months following her cousin Danielle's murder. 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: It was like it was a dark cloud over us 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: all and nobody really didn't say too much about it. 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: Everybody just drank. I thought by drinking that it would 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: make me forget or make me feel like it's a. 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: Dream, But it wasn't. After the brutal shooting, Nico had 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: been relocated to a housing complex, but she was surrounded 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: by the men she thought were responsible. Nico was trying 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: to move through the grief by spending time with her 24 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: family when she got an unexpected call. 25 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: My cousin called and was like, Hey, this white lady 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: came down here and two white men. 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: He told her that at least one of them was 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: a police officer. I said what he said, Yeah, I 29 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: got a card here for you. I got two of them. 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: You need to come down here and get in touch 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: these folks. And I'm like, all right, bo, I'll be 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: down there. 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: So I drove down there and got the cards and 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: it was terrim word Head and Galuski's car. 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Glupski is the police officer investigating Danielle and Donnie's murders 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: in Terra Moorehead in nineteen ninety four. She's an assistant 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: District Attorney for Wandotte County in Kansas City, Kansas. Nico 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: drives across town and makes her way to the DA's office. 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: It's a brick building with a circular drive. She walks 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: through the glass lighting doors and makes her way down 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: the hallway until she finds her seat. 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: I was sitting here waiting on her. She made me 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: sit there in that waiting area for maybe like hour 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: hour and a half. 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Eventually, Nico is shown into a conference room. 46 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: It was just a table and chairs in there, a 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: white room and pictures and documents on the table. 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Seated on the other side as a smartly dressed woman. 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: She was skinny, had a suit on like a blazer, heels, 50 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: She had blonde hair, a pointing nose, a long chin. 51 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Assistant District Attorney Tara Moorehead. Nico had no reason to 52 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: be afraid of her, but she remembers more Head laying 53 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: photos out in front of her. They gave her a chill. 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: These pictures was the crime scene. 55 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Of her cousin, Donielle's murder. 56 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 2: Half his face was gone. I told her, I don't 57 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: need to see them pictures because I've seen it when 58 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: it happened. 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: There are other pictures of Mennica recognizes. 60 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: Pictures of my cousins and then of my uncle. 61 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: And a photo of the boy they arrested for the 62 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: double murder, local school kid, LaMotte McIntyre. 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: And that's what she started telling me, that they had 64 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: all the evidence. Knowing that Lamon did it. They had 65 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: his clobe, they had the gun, they had all this 66 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: the same Rigamunrod that Gluski told me. She asked me, 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: wasn't not tired of losing my loved ones and don't 68 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: not want somebody hell responsible for killing my cousin? And 69 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: Lamont did it? I said, we know who did it. 70 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: And I told her Monster. 71 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: One of the dealers who had allegedly attacked Danielle just 72 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: stays before his murder. 73 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: At first, she tried to draw me in like she 74 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: was my friend or like she cared. And she said, well, no, 75 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: we got evidence. We know this guy did it. We 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: have the clothing, we have the gun, we have all 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: this evidence. And I said, we don't care what you got. 78 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: So when she showed me the picture of Lamont, I said, no, 79 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: he didn't do it, and she said her little spill, 80 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: and I left and I went home. 81 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Nico was confused. Why were they so insistent on saying 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: that LaMonte McIntyre was the killer. According to Nico, Moorehead 83 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: called her back into her office once the date for 84 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: the preliminary hearing was set. 85 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: So I had to go up there again and sit 86 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: with her, and same thing same spiel about who did it. 87 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: This time? Nico recalls that Morehead looked at her and said, you. 88 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: Love your kids, right, Well, if you don't do what 89 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: I tell you to do, I will go get your 90 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: kids and I'll throw you in jail. Do you want 91 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: to see your kids again? And then that's when the 92 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: venom came out. I call her a cobra. She went 93 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: from being this kind person to being Eveline in two 94 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: point two seconds when I didn't give her or tell 95 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: her what she wanted. Oh God, why got I? 96 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: God? 97 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm Nikki Richardson from the teams at Novel and iHeart Podcast. 98 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: This is the girlfriend's untouchable and I got you a day. 99 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: God, I'm a. 100 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: I got you a episode two, So help me, God, 101 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: I got you. And in June nineteen ninety four, seventeen 102 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: year old LaMotte McIntyre was in handcuffs. Instead of getting 103 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: ready to go back to school, he was stepping into 104 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: the county courthouse because he had been charged with a 105 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: double homicide. 106 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: So I had a pluminary here and come up. 107 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: That's the hearing where they see what kind of evidence 108 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: they got on you to bound you over a trial, 109 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: or if there's enough evidence to hold your charge of 110 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: whatever you say you charged with. 111 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Overlooking the court was a public gallery. It kind of 112 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: looked like a row of church pews facing the direction 113 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: of the judge. The prosecutor eighty A. Tarr Moorehead sat 114 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: on one side, and the defendant McIntyre and his attorney 115 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: sat on the other. 116 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 3: I had all my family behind me, and my father, 117 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: my uncles and my cousins. Everybody was there. That was 118 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: my first plamb there here. That was my first time 119 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: in that situation. 120 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Lamont had watched films and TV shows set in court rooms, 121 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: so he thought he knew what to expect. He thought 122 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: he would hear the prosecutor deliver a compelling argument followed 123 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: by some kind of evidence tying him to the crime. 124 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: But that's not how it went down. 125 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: But plumin in hearing was like it was a play 126 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: and I was the only one that didn't get a script. 127 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: There were glaring plot holes, like the fact that the 128 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: prosecution didn't appear to have any physical evidence. 129 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: I didn't have no way of trying to identify what 130 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 3: was going on with me. It was just happening and 131 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: I couldn't stop it, and it was just confusing. 132 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: And my lawyers like, is anybody can put you in 133 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 5: the scene the crime. 134 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, listen, I don't know the scene of 135 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: the crime, and it is nobody can put me in 136 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: nowhere because I don't have nothing to do with it. 137 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: According to the prosecution, there were two witnesses who could 138 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: Lamont watched on as a black woman in her early 139 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: twenties walked into the courtroom. She looked nervous and kept 140 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: her head down. The judge turned to Lamont and. 141 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 5: He said, do you know this lady? I said no, I, 142 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: oh no the lady. 143 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: That lady was Nico Quinn. 144 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: I was very nervous because I've never had to sit 145 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: there and do anything like that. 146 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: It was Nico's first time seeing Lama in person. 147 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 2: Only time I seen Lamont was on pictures. And when 148 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: I first seen him physically and I seen him at 149 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: that table, I said, this dude is too tall and 150 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: his ears is too big. He couldn't have hidden them 151 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: ears under that head. 152 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: Nico knew the prosecution was going to ask her to 153 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: pick out the man arrested on suspicion of murder, but 154 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: now that she's seen Lamont in real life, she knew 155 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: for certain that he wasn't the man who had shot 156 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: her cousin. Nico had to find Tara Moorehead and tell 157 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: her that this was all a big mistake. In the recess, 158 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: she went to go and find the prosecutor in her 159 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: room nearby. Morehead wasn't alone. There were police officers in 160 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: the room, but Nico still opened up about her reservations. 161 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 2: I said, the person that killed my cousins, you could 162 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: see this much of they head over the car. They 163 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: was the tall person. That was a short person that 164 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: killed him. And I kept telling her that, and she 165 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: pushed for that Lamont was the one, and the other 166 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: detectives kept saying Lamont did it. And I can tell no, 167 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: he's too tall and his ears are too big. That 168 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: was always my rebuttal to her. 169 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: According to Nico, Moore had didn't want to know. 170 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: That's when she threatened me again that she was gonna 171 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: throw my black ass in jail. She'll send the police 172 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: to go get my kids, and I'll never see him again. 173 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: Moore had allegedly threatened to charge Nico with contempt of 174 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: court if she didn't comply. 175 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: She crossed her hands like this, and she looked over 176 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: at the officers, and she looked at me like, would 177 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: I say, what did I just tell you? And I 178 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: cried because I was upset. If I didn't say, Lamont 179 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: killed my cousin. I will not see my kids again ever, 180 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: And like I tell her, you can throw me in jail. 181 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: All that matters to me is my children. The only 182 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: love I had was the love for my children, and 183 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: I was not finna give that up for nobody. 184 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: When the recess ends, Nico is called in the court. 185 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: She glances over at Morehead. Her head is spinning. The 186 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: woman before her is wealthy, respected, and well educated. Who 187 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: was going to believe a twenty one year old single 188 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: mother from Quendero over an assistant district attorney. 189 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: I was young, I was in the streets. I wasn't 190 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 2: educated on the law. I wasn't educated on a lot 191 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: of things. I had street smarts, but I didn't know 192 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 2: that this woman could legally do this to me. 193 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: After what feels like a lifetime, Nico's called to testify. 194 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: She stands up and walks across the room, each step 195 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: heavier than the one before. 196 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 2: I walked so slow up there because I didn't want 197 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: to do it. 198 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: She puts her hand on a Bible and the oath 199 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: is read out. 200 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: Do you swear to tell the truth or not? But 201 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: the truth? So help you God, I said, I do. 202 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: Nico looks across the courtroom sees Lamont, his family, the 203 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: police officers and more. 204 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: Had she asked me to point to him on this day, 205 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: didn't you say this person killed your cousins? And I 206 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: looked at her because I never said that Lamon killed 207 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: my cousin. Never. She put her hand on her hip 208 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: and she looked at me. She looked over the detectives 209 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: like I can send them right now to go get 210 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: your kids. Everything in me was saying tell the truth, 211 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: tell the truth, tell the truth. And I know it 212 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: wasn't nothing, but the Holy Spirit tells me to tell 213 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: the truth. But at that time I didn't understand those feelings. 214 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: The only thing I could see was my children. And 215 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: did I want to be explaining twenty plus years letter 216 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: to my children that I chose to tell the truth 217 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: to lose y'all. I'm praying Father, forgive me, forgive me. 218 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 5: She looked up at me and she pointed at me 219 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 5: and said, that's him. 220 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 2: I said, yes, on this day, that's who I said. 221 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: I felt like I was dreaming. At that moment, I 222 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: felt like that wasn't me sitting there. I felt uneasy, 223 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: felt weird. It's like I was watching somebody else's life 224 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: unravel like that. 225 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 5: It wasn't mine. 226 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: Lama was looking at me like I didn't do it, 227 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: And when he stood up, I just cried. I just cried, 228 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: and I asked God to forgive me because I just 229 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: ruined this man's life. 230 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Another witness takes the stand, Nico's neighbor, the one who 231 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: called out Lamont at the murder scene. 232 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 5: She come on the stand. Don't look at me. 233 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: She sits down, and the judge asked her, do you 234 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: see the man in the court room the committed the crime. 235 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 3: For the first time, she looked up at me and 236 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: pointed at me. And I was looking at her like 237 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: so she can get a good look at my face, 238 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: like do you see? And she seen me and pointed 239 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 3: at me and said that's him. And that's when I said, 240 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: oh man, something's going on. 241 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: The courthouse erupts. 242 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: My whole family was like going crazy, like what's going on? 243 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: Some day line was going on. 244 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Lamont's family had gone into court believing in him, but 245 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: with two witnesses to the crime testifying against him, The 246 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: room takes on an uneasy atmosphere. 247 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: They were shocked, I think after they seen the preliminate hand. 248 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: Most of my family probably lost hope and faith in 249 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: me after that, because after that it was like they 250 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: probably believed I probably did do that. 251 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: But there's one person in the room who refuses to 252 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: doubt Lamont's innocence, his mother Rose. As she watches the 253 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: courthouse descend into chaos, she's reminded of a memory she 254 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: had tried her best to forget, a traumatizing event from 255 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: her past that she thinks is coming back to haunt 256 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: her because years earlier, Rose had got caught up in 257 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: the clutches of a predator, and it looks like that man, 258 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: that police officer, has been following her and her family 259 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: all along. You. It's the late eighties in Kansas City, Kansas. 260 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Rose McIntyre is a devoted mother of five, but she 261 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: also loves going out into the town to dance and 262 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: let loose with her boyfriend Greg. After a fun night 263 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: out at a local club, she and Greg park up 264 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: on the side of the road. Rose sees a figure 265 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: approaching them. A flashlight shines through the window of the car. 266 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: It's a police officer. Rose says. He showed them his 267 00:16:52,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: badge and told them his name, Detective Roger Glubski. Rose 268 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: has given permission for her words to be read by 269 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: an actor as she describes what happened to her next. 270 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 4: Detective Glupski ordered me to get out of the car 271 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 4: and come back to his car, which was parked right behind. 272 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: I was too scared to say anything, but Greg became 273 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 4: very upset, saying to Gelupski, what are you doing? This 274 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: is my girlfriend. 275 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: Detective Gulupski threatened Greg, telling him that he would get 276 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: arrested if he didn't shut up. Terrified and not knowing 277 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: what to do, Rose followed Gulupski's directions to go and 278 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: sit in the passenger seat in his unmarked police car. 279 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: Glupski told me I was a nice looking lady, then 280 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: made clear that he expected to get sexual favors from me. 281 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: I felt frightened and powerless. He told her that if 282 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: she didn't want Greg to be arrested, she had to 283 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: meet him at the police station the next day. Told 284 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 4: me to come late between nine and ten pm, and 285 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: I did as he said. I was stunned and terrified, 286 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: but I felt powerless to say no. 287 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: So the next evening, she drives across the city and 288 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: down Minnesota Avenue to the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department. 289 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: It's a big brick building with marble pillars at the 290 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: entrance and tall windows up above. An officer who was 291 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: minding the desk buzzed her in. 292 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: Kilyupski's office was right by the door, and I went in. 293 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 4: He shut the door behind me. Gellupski then sat down 294 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: behind his desk. He began talking and told me he 295 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 4: liked black women. He said he could make it hard 296 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 4: or make it light for me, and that things would 297 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: go better for me if I complied. At that point, 298 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: he slid his chair out from behind the desk and 299 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 4: turned the lights out. According to Rose, Glupski sexually assaulted her. 300 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 4: It's horrible. She's too scared of how he might retaliate 301 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: to try and fight back, but she feels a flash 302 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 4: of hope when she notices the office door opening. A 303 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: crack of light enters the room. I saw a white 304 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: uniformed officer in the doorway. 305 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: For a moment, it seems like somebody might intervene, But. 306 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: When the officer saw Gallupski and me. He simply backed 307 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 4: out and shut the door. Gelupski never stopped what he 308 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 4: was doing, and the officer himself did not act surprised. 309 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: Although there were other police around, no one came to 310 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: my assistance. 311 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: Eventually it ended Gallupski let go, but Rose's ordeal wasn't over. 312 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 4: He told me that he wanted an ongoing sexual relationship 313 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: with me. As soon as as Klyupski said I could leave, 314 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 4: I left. I was terrified and sick to my stomach 315 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: and wanted to get home as fast as I could. 316 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: I felt dirty and totally humiliated. A man who had 317 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: total power over me had treated me like a whore 318 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: and forced me to submit to his sexual desires. I 319 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: kept what happened to myself. 320 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: Rose couldn't tell her boyfriend because she worried that Kolyubski 321 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: might arrest him if she spoke out. She was too 322 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: scared to tell her friends and family because she feared 323 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: what might happen if they ended up on Glupski's radar, 324 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: and she couldn't report what had happened to the authorities 325 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: because Gallupski was the authority. 326 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: After that awful day, Klupski harassed me for weeks, often 327 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 4: calling me two or three times a day. He told 328 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: me that he wanted me to come back to his office. 329 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: He wanted to do it again with me, and wanted 330 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: me to be his woman. I dreaded Klupski's calls and 331 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 4: continued to fear him, but sometimes I would talk to 332 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: him on the phone just to play k him so 333 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: he would not force me to come back down to 334 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: see him at the police station. He had total power, 335 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: and I was terrified that he would try to force 336 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: me again to provide sexual favors. 337 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: After a few months of what Rose recalls as near 338 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: constant harassment, she found a way to break free. She relocated, 339 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: changed her phone number, and tried her best to move on. 340 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: She focused her energy on being a good mother to 341 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: her children and dedicated her time to rebuilding her life. 342 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: After a few years passed without seeing Gelupski, Rose thought 343 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: she was in the clear, but then in nineteen ninety four, 344 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: he forced his way back into her life by arresting 345 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: her son Lamont. Lamont's preliminary hearing took place in June 346 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: and the case to trial in the fall. It was 347 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: a harrowing experience for him and his entire family, but 348 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: the process was especially tough on Rose. 349 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: I sat in the hallway the entire time. Both sides 350 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: had named me as a witness, so I was not 351 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: allowed to be. 352 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: In the courtroom, but neither side ended up calling her 353 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: to testify. 354 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: So I ended up being isolated for no reason. Sitting 355 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: in the hallway during the trial was horrible. I felt 356 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: very scared and worried. 357 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: The trial lasted four days and then the jury went 358 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: to deliberate. After what felt like a lifetime of sitting 359 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: in that hallway, Rose was eventually allowed back into the 360 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:46,719 Speaker 1: courtroom to hear the verdict. The room steals to silence 361 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: Lamont stays in his position. The jury comes back into 362 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: the room and sends their representative up to the front 363 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: to reveal Lamont's fate. 364 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: When a jury came out with a guilty verdict, I screamed. 365 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: I was just screaming, like, y'all got the wrong person 366 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: on y'all convicting the innocent person. I didn't do anything right. 367 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: I started yelling and I felt somebody grab me real 368 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: tight from behind. I was shocked and I turned around as. 369 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: My mother, Rose throws her arms around her son. 370 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: She was grabbing me, and she was holding me so tight, 371 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 3: and she was crying, and I felt her pain. 372 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: Back then, Lamont didn't know anything about his mom's past 373 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: with Gallupski. To him, they were just the cries of 374 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: a mother about to lose her son. But there was 375 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: so much more to ross pain. She'd spent years worrying 376 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: about what Gallupski might do to her if their paths 377 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: crossed again, but this was so much worse. Her seventeen 378 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: year old son was being marched away to a prison cell. 379 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: She was overcome by grief, but there was another emotion 380 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: making its way through her body, a sickening sense of 381 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: suspicion and then guilt, because the more she thought about it, 382 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the more she began to wonder had Detective Glupski used 383 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: his power to target her son as punishment for her 384 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: decision to break free I Got You. It's nineteen ninety 385 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: four and La Motte McIntyre is on his way to 386 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: prison for a crime. He says he had nothing to 387 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: do with Nico Quinn, who'd been intimidating into testifying against him, 388 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: feels awful. She's sure he's innocent, but in trying to 389 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: protect her children, she's been forced into help him put 390 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: someone else's child behind bars. She walks around Kansas City, 391 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with guilt and despair. 392 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 2: I remember walking down Seventh Street. I remember that route 393 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: like it was yesterday, and I passed the store and 394 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: the guy at the store was asked me how I 395 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: was doing. I was like, he's okay, yeah, I just 396 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: want to go home. I got home and I remember 397 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: my youngest son greeting me at the door, and I 398 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: kind of, you know, kissy. I walked upstairs, closed my door. 399 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: I wanted my kids to see me, and I just 400 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: sat on the bed and I just cried. And I 401 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: had some prescription of antidepressant that the doctor had gave 402 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: me because I couldn't sleep, and I took a hand 403 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: full of and I heard stop and it scared me, 404 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 2: and I stuck my hand in my mouth and I 405 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 2: just started throwing up because I thought about my kids, 406 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: and I heard the Holy Spirit say, who's gonna fix it? 407 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: If you die, Who's gonna fix it? And from that 408 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 2: day forward, I worked on trying to make my own right. 409 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: La Mott had been convicted on two witness statements, including 410 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: nkos not solid evidence. She thought that recanting her testimony 411 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: might help fix things, so she went back to the 412 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: person who she says coerced her into giving it, the 413 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: assistant district attorney. 414 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 2: I said something to Tarry Morehead about what she was 415 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: doing to me wasn't fair and it wasn't right. And 416 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: she asked me, who was I gonna tell? Who's gonna 417 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 2: believe me over her? Is what she told me. And 418 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: that feel like somebody knocking all of the error out 419 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 2: of you for her to tell me that, because I'm 420 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: looking at her being a white woman, been a prosecutor, 421 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: and me a black girl, who gonna believe me? 422 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: We reached out to Tara Moorehead and her lawyer to 423 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: ask her about Nico's claims of witness intimidation. She did 424 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: not wish to provide a comment. Back then, Nico wasn't 425 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: ready to give up hope. She thought that if she 426 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: could find a way to understand the legal system, she 427 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: could help fix things. 428 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: I would read a lot, I would go to the 429 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: library and look at different legal books and try to 430 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: find out a way. I talked to so many different 431 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: people on how I can go about trying to get 432 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: Lamart home. 433 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: Nico was a mother, so she couldn't help but imagine 434 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: the pain that Lamont's mom, Rose McIntyre, was experiencing. 435 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: I remember when she used to work at the liquor 436 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: store on Tenth Street, and I would go down there 437 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: and I would talk to her. Sometimes I would see 438 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: her walking up and down Gwin Gurl late at night. 439 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: I will follow her just to, you know, kind of 440 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: make sure she would say or whatever that nothing happened 441 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: to her out there. And I just would cry because 442 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: I felt like I destroyed this woman's life. And all 443 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: I could do was ask God for forgiveness and wanted 444 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: to make it right. 445 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: After being given two life sentences, Lamont was sent to 446 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: a prison called Hutchinson Correctional Facility, a large state prison 447 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: in Kansas. 448 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: I cried and I sat there and I just couldn't 449 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: believe I was there, and I couldn't leave. I was stuck, 450 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: and that just convicted me of two murders. I didn't 451 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: know how to process that. I was sad and I 452 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: couldn't get out of it. I didn't know what to do. 453 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: I knew what to think. 454 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: He called home to talk to his mother. 455 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: My grandmother asked the phone, so I said, with my 456 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 3: mother as she said she's not here, and she started crying, 457 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: and I'm like, what do you mean she's not here? 458 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: She said, she's in the mental hospital. So my mother 459 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: had a break down. 460 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: She couldn't take Nico went to visit Roads when she 461 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: got out, I was telling her what happened, and then 462 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: me and her begin having a relationship. 463 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: We would talk more. I would be down there trying 464 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 2: to help her, you know, get dressed, or if she 465 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: was having a bad day, trying to help her get 466 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: with She. We was always together and I'll try to 467 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: make her laugh, and we had a real good relationship 468 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: at that time. And I would just pray for her. 469 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: I would pray that God would take that pain away 470 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: from her, that he would give her some type of 471 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: strength to continue to go through this. I just wanted 472 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: to make things right with her. 473 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: Nico recanted her testimony again, this time and a sworn 474 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: affidavit so Lamont's lawyer could argue that he deserved a 475 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: new trie. When that motion was denied, Nico began her 476 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: own campaign. 477 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: I'll start seeing little things on TV about, you know, 478 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: people's family members getting murdered, and they would go to 479 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 2: Mantel Williams Queen Latifa. 480 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: It was the nineties, long before an online petition or 481 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: social media campaign could draw attention to a case of injustice, 482 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: So Nico wrote letters to the most famous people she 483 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: could think of, hoping one of them might be able 484 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: to help put a spotlight on Lamont's case. She kept 485 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Rose updated. 486 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 2: When I would talk to her, I would tell her, Hey, 487 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm writing Oprah, I'm writing Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake Paruto. 488 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: She sent a bunch of letters, but nothing came of them. 489 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: And I just felt like our story would never get 490 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 2: out there. Nobody would ever know what happened in Kansas City, 491 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Kansas and what we went through. When we was going. 492 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: Through, Lamont was defeated, felt guilty, and Rose was inconsolable. 493 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: Each of their lives had been devastated by Roger Glupski, 494 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: but what they didn't know at the time was that 495 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: this was just the beginning and they weren't alone. Glupski 496 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: had many, many more victims, and his methods were darker 497 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: than they could have ever imagined. But they were going 498 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it, fight for justice, 499 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: and finally uncover the truth. Coming up on the girlfriends Untouchable, 500 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: the Roger Glupski thing popped up in my lawyer's face. 501 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: My phone immediately started ringing people saying, Hey, I know 502 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: that guy, I know what he did to this person. 503 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: This is horrific, This is horrible. 504 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 3: He did not receive a fair There's only one reason 505 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: why you do that, to protect corrupt cops. 506 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: The Girlfriend's Untouchable is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. 507 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio. The show 508 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: is narrated by me Nicki Richardson. It was written and 509 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: produced by Rufarro Masarua. The editor is Joe Wheeler. Our 510 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: assistant producer is Mohammed Ahmed. The researcher is Zaiana Yusef. 511 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: Production management from Shuri Houston and Joe Savage. The fact 512 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: checker is Fendel Fulton. Sound design, mixing and scoring by 513 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: Daniel Kimpson with additional engineering by Nicholas Alexander. Music supervision 514 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: by Rufarro Masarua, Nicholas Alexander and Joe Wheeler. Original music 515 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: by a Manager Jones. The Girlfriend's theme was composed by 516 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: Amanda Jones and Louisa Gerstein. The series artwork was designed 517 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: by Christina limcol Story development by Olivia Smart and nel 518 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: Gray Andrews. The voice of Rose McIntyre was read by 519 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: Ebanie Janelle. Novel's Director of Development is Selena Metta. Willard 520 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: Foxton is novel's creative director of Development. Max O'Brien and 521 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: Craig Strachan are executive producers for novel. Katrina Norvell and 522 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: Nikki Etour are the executive producers for iHeart podcast, and 523 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: the marketing lead is Alison Cantor. Special thanks to Will 524 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: Pearson and his special thanks to Carley Frankel and the 525 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: whole team at w M E.