WEBVTT - Selects: The Quinoa Revolution!

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday. Hi everybody, Chuck here. We're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time today with this selection to February seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>The keene Wah Revolution, mainly.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I don't remember much about this one and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to listen to these again. So I'm going to listen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope you do too. Learn everything you always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know and more about keenwa Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Charles

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<v Speaker 4>W Chuck Bryant's right there, Jerry's right there. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>little chilly in here, so it's Stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 4>the podcast because it's chilly. That's the cherry on top,

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<v Speaker 4>that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoiler or not spoil or teaser at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, let's say between the end and before listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail that's agreeable to you.

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<v Speaker 4>At the forty three minute mark.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to taste soilent for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, live on the air.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess I should have thought this through. I

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<v Speaker 4>took him out of the fridge already, so we wandered

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<v Speaker 4>forty three minutes for it to warm up. Should we

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<v Speaker 4>put them back?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wouldn't you know. I wasn't going to say

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<v Speaker 2>anything then I was going to say something.

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<v Speaker 4>Should I put him back?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's probably best cold, don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well hang on everybody, So, yes, we're gonna try

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<v Speaker 4>soilent eventually in this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. I'm excited to try soilent or to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about quin wa both.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So Chuck, you just kind of gave it away

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<v Speaker 4>alongside the title. Sure, we're talking about queen wa today,

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<v Speaker 4>not quinoa, no queen wah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. But superfood, yes, some say yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you can make a pretty good claim that

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<v Speaker 4>it is a super food. And what is a superfood

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<v Speaker 4>if not a type of food that has a lot

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<v Speaker 4>going on just in and of itself. Yeah, it's super Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Like blueberries are super fruit or a saii beerry super food? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>or ASII berries Yeah, algae.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know algae was Oh yeah, I buy that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hemp seeds, sure, chia seeds, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of nuts, rich crackers, I don't know. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are just super super delicious and buttery. Yeah, with my

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<v Speaker 2>crab dip especially.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh bet, one day, maybe I'll find out what you

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<v Speaker 4>just want me to bring you crabdip. Yeah, give me

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<v Speaker 4>a cooking lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh So quinoa.

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<v Speaker 1>There are at least one hundred and twenty varieties, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is nothing new. It's been around. In fact, we

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<v Speaker 1>might as well dealt into a little history here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been cultivated for geez, more than five thousand years.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw up to eight thousand years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's more than five thousand, sure, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>we could say more than five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, more than the last six months. Kima has been

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<v Speaker 4>around on this planet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's an Andean plant and specifically originated around

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<v Speaker 1>Lake Titi Kaka in Peru.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, in Bolivia in the Altiplano.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's wonderful, wonderful area.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you been.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but just look at photos.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, Machu Pichu.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like we'll look at that place exactly one day.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'd like to go for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is there is historical evidence of it being domesticated,

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<v Speaker 1>like we said, is maybe as long as eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. And they even saw in ancient tombs they

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<v Speaker 1>saw little you know, archaeological drawings and things that what

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<v Speaker 1>they think is quinoa. Right, So people were in ingesting

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<v Speaker 1>it and using it as a super food way back when.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the fact that it grew up there, or

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<v Speaker 4>grows up there, and not only grows, but thrives up

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<v Speaker 4>in this high rocky i think, pretty much arid plateau

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<v Speaker 4>that's also very cold. It doesn't make any sense that

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<v Speaker 4>you'd have anything but like alpacas and lama's up there.

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<v Speaker 4>But in fact, there's a plant that's one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most nutritious foods on the planet that just so happens

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<v Speaker 4>to thrive up there in Bolivia and Peru in the highlands.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty awesome, it is. And so of course they

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<v Speaker 4>have used this for thousands and thousands of years, and

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't It wasn't until I think the early twentieth

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<v Speaker 4>century that it really started to make its way for

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<v Speaker 4>the first time out to the United States. I think

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<v Speaker 4>the USDA got their hands on it and tried to

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<v Speaker 4>get farmers to grow it here in the States, and

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<v Speaker 4>they said, nah, let's give it another one hundred years,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a little less.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the twenty first century when it really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of became popular. And even in the last she's

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<v Speaker 1>mid two thousands, you can even talk about it being trendy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, supposedly the whole trend for keen wah, which, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, in typical stuff you should know, fashion has

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<v Speaker 4>already come and gone, and now we're doing an episode

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<v Speaker 4>on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's not gone, Are you sure? Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, Well do you know how ke hit the map,

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<v Speaker 4>hit the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in a lot of different ways. I assume you think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one thing only, right, Oprah. Yeah, she had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with it, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>She was on some sort of cleansed diet in two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and eight and she ate keenwa and mushrooms, I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody was like, what is that. She's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you've been calling it Canoa, it's keen wah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, well we have to try this now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she definitely was a factor, Oprah. Her reach is wide,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but it doesn't reach me.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you're not an Oprah fan?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's fine. But I didn't learn about keen

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<v Speaker 1>wa from her or anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>Where'd you learn about quene wa then?

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know, I think the first time I had

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<v Speaker 1>it was in a restaurant, So it's to me it's

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<v Speaker 1>spread because chefs.

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<v Speaker 4>Started using it because they watch Oprah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. Chefs don't serve anything unless opiation zero here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States. You know, I talked about at

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<v Speaker 1>least one hundred and twenty varieties. You're more than likely

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<v Speaker 1>going to be eating the red, red, white, and blue,

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<v Speaker 1>no red, white.

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<v Speaker 2>Or black varieties of quen wah. And do you eat

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<v Speaker 2>it in your home? I guess we'll get to this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm curious of you've cooked with it.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot, not a lot. No, I've had it here

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<v Speaker 4>or there. I've had in a couple of restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>So this stuff is it's known as an ancient grain,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not exactly a grain, and it's not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>a cereal. It's classified technically as a pseudo cereal, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like fruity pebbles.

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<v Speaker 4>That's one hundred percent cereal.

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<v Speaker 2>Baby, they just came out with cinnamon pebbles.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I bet those are good. Yeah, you can make

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<v Speaker 4>click cinnamon old shoes and put them in a cereal

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<v Speaker 4>box and it'd be good.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, Quinwa technically is a pseudo cereal. It comes

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<v Speaker 1>from the goosefoot plant.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, That's why it's not a cereal. Cereal is a

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<v Speaker 4>grain that comes from a grass. Yeah, And Goosefoot's not

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<v Speaker 4>a grass, it's a plant.

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<v Speaker 1>No, And it looks kind of weedy, and as we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see later when you're cultivating, it looks alarmingly like some

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<v Speaker 1>other weeds.

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<v Speaker 4>Weed.

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<v Speaker 2>We can be tricky with the capital w. Oh. Looks

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<v Speaker 2>like marijuana, a little bit from afar.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh. That brilliant red and brilliant yellow marijuana looks like

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<v Speaker 4>what it's growing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure you know what marijuana is.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll show you a picture sometimes. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It is labeled a whole grain though, because it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>it fits the whole grain definition because it is the

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<v Speaker 1>whole grain seed which you're eating.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like when you talk about grains usually again you're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about these things from grasses like wheat, right, And

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<v Speaker 4>there's such a thing as whole grain wheat. But once

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<v Speaker 4>we process something, once we mille it or shell it,

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<v Speaker 4>smack it on the bottom, whatever you do to them,

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<v Speaker 4>you're actually removing certain parts of the grain.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So with like enriched white flour, you've taken a whole

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<v Speaker 4>wheat grain and you've removed the bran and the germ,

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<v Speaker 4>and you've just got yourself the endosperm still and the

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<v Speaker 4>endosperm is what's used mostly for to produce white flour,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's great. It's full of like quick, easily digestible carbs,

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<v Speaker 4>but a lot of the nutrients are lost.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually not easily digestible for many people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true too, Yeah, but a lot of the nutrients

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<v Speaker 4>are lost in the process. So even if you can

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<v Speaker 4>digest it no problem, you're not getting most of the

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<v Speaker 4>nutrients that were there in the first place. With a

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<v Speaker 4>whole grain, it's got the brand, the germ, and the endosperm,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're all worked together to make you vastly healthier

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<v Speaker 4>than you would be if you're just eating the endosperm

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<v Speaker 4>like you do in white white flour.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Quenoi in particular, is it's really weird when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it. It's closer. You wouldn't think so,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's closer to shard and beats and spinach, right

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<v Speaker 1>the plant is anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>So imagine if, like from spinach plants, we got not

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<v Speaker 4>only the leaves but also the seeds turned out to

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<v Speaker 4>be whole grains. That's what's going on. It's a weird plant.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't grow where it grows. It shouldn't be a cereal,

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be a grain, it shouldn't be related to beets.

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<v Speaker 2>It shouldn't be delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>But it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's super super good for you, Like we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's a super food. And one of the reasons, and

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that makes it very strange is that it

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<v Speaker 1>has a ton of protein, which is pretty unusual for

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<v Speaker 1>a plant to have this much protein.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this article made that point, but I wouldn't. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of other plants that have pretty good

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<v Speaker 4>amounts of protein in them.

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<v Speaker 2>What rivals quinoa in amounts.

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<v Speaker 4>At a mammy black beans, lima beans, chickpeas all beat

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<v Speaker 4>it by a mile.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I just thought it was weird because not only did

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<v Speaker 4>this article say it, I ran across it elsewhere too

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<v Speaker 4>that they were like, this is it's amazing how much

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<v Speaker 4>protein it has in it. It has like a decent amount,

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<v Speaker 4>especially for a plant. It's just not like eye popping

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<v Speaker 4>or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you just think it's hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of pooh pooed that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, what it does have unless you think is

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<v Speaker 1>not true as well, well, I'll be the judge of it,

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<v Speaker 1>ten at least ten amino acids and that's good, right or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it bad too?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's choco fl.

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<v Speaker 1>Amino acids, which are great for your body because our

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<v Speaker 1>body cannot make amino acids, so we have to get

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<v Speaker 1>them from food sources.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they it can't make essential amino acids. It can

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<v Speaker 4>make non essential amino acids, but the essential ones we

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<v Speaker 4>have to get from food. And quin wat is in

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<v Speaker 4>a very small group of plants that are complete sources

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<v Speaker 4>of protein, meaning that they have all of the essential

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<v Speaker 4>amino acids that we need in them. Yes, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>find that in plants very frequently. No, that's what helps

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<v Speaker 4>make it a superfood exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not very high in calorie, no sugar, no cholesterol,

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<v Speaker 1>no sodium.

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<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 4>Zinct a lot of zinc. Has a lot of potassium too.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently it has the most potassium of any food plant

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<v Speaker 4>that is around. Potassium is really good at regulating blood pressure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>because potassium's in charge of things like fluid retention and

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<v Speaker 4>electrical conduction throughout cells.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just compared to grains, there are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>other fruits with potassium.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, okay, is that what it was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Like bananas are loaded with potassium, are they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Or is that the work of ever Barnee.

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<v Speaker 2>No, bananas are really good for you. What else? Fiber

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<v Speaker 2>magnesium fol eight? Yeah, that's good and free.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's a big one, man. So it's very commonly

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<v Speaker 4>touted as a gluten free food grain, which is good

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<v Speaker 4>for people who have Celiac disease. But apparently they've tested

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<v Speaker 4>there's at least would you say, one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty varieties that are in like agricultural

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<v Speaker 4>production right now, and somebody tested a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 4>and they came up with like at least four that

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<v Speaker 4>created a coeliac response. Oh really, Yeah, so you got

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<v Speaker 4>to be careful. For the most part, they are gluten free,

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<v Speaker 4>but they there are a few varieties out there that

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<v Speaker 4>can touch off the old celiac response.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of the deals though, is we're not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing those in the marketplace though, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the we'll get to it, but it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>potential problems is we're only eating like three or four

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<v Speaker 1>of the one hundred and twenty varieties, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>those are for sure gluten free. Okay, Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to your grocery store, right, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>see one hundred and twenty varieties of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, you know, yeah, you're probably right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh all right, well let's take a break and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get back and talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 2>cooking this delicious stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Selfish, selfish, So Chuck, you were going to lay it

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<v Speaker 4>on everybody how to cook queen Wah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy. If you can cook rice, you can cook quenoa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I would say, well it than I would say

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<v Speaker 4>it's easier than rice. It doesn't stick like rice does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably rice's biggest downfall.

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<v Speaker 2>The sticky. Yeah, it's also what makes it great though,

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<v Speaker 2>too sure, depending on what kind of rice you're getting.

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<v Speaker 1>I eat keen white the house. I wouldn't say a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but enough, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Every couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, that's a lot, is it to me?

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<v Speaker 1>So what you do is you want to rinse it? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you will some kinds of rice.

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<v Speaker 4>The bag you're you're buying is probably going to say

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<v Speaker 4>pre rinsed or pre washed or something like that. You

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<v Speaker 4>want to rinse it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, they had this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually really good for you, this coating called sapanin,

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<v Speaker 1>and despite its it's great health effects, when you add

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<v Speaker 1>water to it, it lathers up like a soap, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact it means it's from the Latin sappo,

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<v Speaker 1>which is soap. So you don't I want to eat

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<v Speaker 1>it even though it's good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, the plant produces it to keep like pests away

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<v Speaker 4>from it from eating it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you rinse that stuff off, get keenwa when

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<v Speaker 1>you once you see it's really tiny. So you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get a really fine strainer, not like a calender.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you get a calendar. Then I'll like keenwas going.

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<v Speaker 4>To be eat down the drain man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate mondays, So get like a sifter, really fine sifter,

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<v Speaker 1>rinse it real good until it's the water's running clear,

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<v Speaker 1>and basically cook it like rice. It's one part keen

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<v Speaker 1>want of two parts water or broth. Well that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I use chicken broth.

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<v Speaker 4>You'd be a madman is to use like water in

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<v Speaker 4>keene wah.

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<v Speaker 2>Or veggie broth if you're you know, weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Or off the meat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding. Beef broth if you're gross.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't pair well with quen Wah. I could see

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<v Speaker 4>it not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just not a big beef broth guy. I might

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<v Speaker 2>have said, beef you did with a th, Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was cute beef broth.

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<v Speaker 4>Beef broth.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, but I use chicken. I use like half.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I do the two cups of water, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do one cup water, one cup chicken broth.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you cut your chicken broth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just kind of do half and half.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotcha. You stomp on it, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So then you cook it like rice, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna boil it, and then once it gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a boil covered up, turn it down low and wait

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<v Speaker 1>and let it simmer until it's all soaked up.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And then this article. I'm not as acquainted with

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<v Speaker 4>cooking quen wall as you are, but this article says

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<v Speaker 4>that you want to look for the spirals, the seed

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<v Speaker 4>spirals to be prominent. What's the deal with that?

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see when you look at it, like before you

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<v Speaker 1>cook it, it looks different than afterward.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the easiest way to say it. Like, once

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<v Speaker 2>you look it's almost like they pop open or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just quite obvious. It's just big and light

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<v Speaker 2>and fluffy, and you see the little seed spiral.

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<v Speaker 4>What's neat is And we kind of walked past it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you said it a couple of times that that steppin' in.

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<v Speaker 2>Is good for really good for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it has some amazing properties, Like it's anti tumor,

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<v Speaker 4>anti ulcer, anti inflammatory. Yeah, and so you have to imagine,

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<v Speaker 4>like again that this plant is growing in this random

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<v Speaker 4>place where plants aren't really supposed to grow, and it

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<v Speaker 4>thrives there and it's full of all these nutrients and

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<v Speaker 4>the outer coating is an anti inflammatory, anti tumor agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that you wash away. Yeah, it's kind of sad.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you could save it, sip on it later. I

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<v Speaker 4>wonder what would happen, Like, how would you have to

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<v Speaker 4>ingest do you think, like would it have any anti

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<v Speaker 4>inflammatory properties if you like drank sappening you think or

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<v Speaker 4>do you need to like inject it into your eye.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, or mix it into a salve, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>rub on your skin. Yeah, I'm not sure. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>good question. I bet people know we'll hear about.

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<v Speaker 4>That up in Bolivia. They know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, so you can eat it in a variety of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just eat it as a side dish like

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<v Speaker 1>you would with rice or couscous or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Mashed potatoes. Yeah, although I would eat the mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 4>You could mix it with mashed potatoes, right, No, I

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't do that. One one thing that the author of

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<v Speaker 4>this article, I think it's a Leah Hoyt. She said

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<v Speaker 4>that she likes to mix it in instead of bread

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<v Speaker 4>crumbs into like meatballs or burger. Sure, why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good keen wa burger? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So is there such a thing as a keen wahburger?

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<v Speaker 4>That's just keen wa? Could you make that? Or do

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<v Speaker 4>you need something to bind it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you probably need binding agents for beef, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>beef broths.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never made a keen waburger, and I don't make

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of veggie burger.

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<v Speaker 2>By like in my home. Oh really, so I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know how to go about that.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you do? Turkey burgers or I do? Turkey

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<v Speaker 4>Turkey burgers are pretty good depending on the brand. Some

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<v Speaker 4>are just like what is this texture? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I make them myself with my own little recipe.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just because Emily doesn't need beef beef mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've gotten so into the turkey burger that I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even really I mean, I'll I'll have a beef

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<v Speaker 2>burger out right never at home.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I are simpatico on the home burger cooking. Yeah, Hi,

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<v Speaker 4>do you grill or do you skill it form and grill?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it's pretty great. Half watch you watch that

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<v Speaker 4>grease strip out of the front. And I've noticed many

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<v Speaker 4>times like I will do the same, drooling grease out

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<v Speaker 4>of my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's my favorite keen wa dish. And I got

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<v Speaker 2>it from a restaurant in New York that I can't remember,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're all kinds of variations, but I have it.

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<v Speaker 1>I cook it and then put it in the fridge

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<v Speaker 1>and chill it like overnight. So in the summer, I

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<v Speaker 1>will get that cold quenewa and then dice up like

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<v Speaker 1>some cucumber and some red onion, and I mean kind

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<v Speaker 1>of anything you want like that fits a salad, summer salad,

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<v Speaker 1>like orange pepper, like crunchy green pepper or roasted red pepper, garlic,

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<v Speaker 1>throw some pine nuts.

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<v Speaker 4>In there summer right now, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>You get some basil, some fresh herbs.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the way to go, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like anything that strikes your fancy. Maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>lemon juice, little apple cider, vinegar.

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<v Speaker 4>But the base of it is quene. Wah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you just mix up anything that you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I might add some texture like that

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<v Speaker 1>crunch and and serve it alongside like a burger instead

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<v Speaker 1>of fries.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it's really really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know me, I'm I'm not into healthy foods

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<v Speaker 2>like that a lot, which means it's good, which means

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<v Speaker 2>it's really good. Yeah, and packed with protein, don't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a complete source of protein.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's or maybe some dried cranberry or golden raisins.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not big on that kind of stuff in the salad.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I know a lot of people like it,

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<v Speaker 4>not me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, I don't love the golden raisins, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do like the cranberry do Yeah. Yeah, I think it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. So that's Chuck's recipe of the week.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see that every week no matter what the topic is.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you going to come up with for the

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<v Speaker 4>tartar grade?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Does you wait.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the deal with keenwa. It's gotten really trendy.

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<v Speaker 1>So in two thousand and seven, the United States was

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<v Speaker 1>importing seven point three million pounds of quenwa. Twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>they were imported fifty seven million pounds, and who god

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<v Speaker 1>knows what it is this year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a lot of that was the direct result

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<v Speaker 4>of a single person of Oprah. Yeah, it all comes

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<v Speaker 4>down to Oprah. No, there is this dude. He was

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<v Speaker 4>a un development worker from Bolivia who'd moved to California,

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<v Speaker 4>and he had obviously grown up at least familiar with keenwa,

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<v Speaker 4>if not eating keen wa. His name was Sergio Nunez Darco,

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<v Speaker 4>and he he saw that kin wa was starting to

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<v Speaker 4>catch on a little bit. I guess he saw that

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<v Speaker 4>episode of Oprah. Yeah, So he went back to Bolivia

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<v Speaker 4>and he found that there were only a few indigenous

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<v Speaker 4>producers who were putting out like retail sized bags of

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<v Speaker 4>kin wa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So he went around and he basically created a co

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<v Speaker 4>op out of all the indigenous farmers who grow queenwa

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<v Speaker 4>and Bolivia, yeah, and made the supply from them reliable

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<v Speaker 4>enough and big enough to supply industry abroad. Around the world.

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<v Speaker 4>This guy almost basically was the flashpoint for the Keenwa explosion.

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<v Speaker 4>He helped it happen, and he made sure that it

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<v Speaker 4>was based on the work of the people who were

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<v Speaker 4>originally cultivating Kinwa, right, Yeah, which is a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He went from in two thousand and five, he sold

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five thousand dollars worth through his company, and these

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<v Speaker 1>days he saw in about twenty six million dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>annually from his own facility and about forty million from

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<v Speaker 1>other facilities. So he basically went around to them and said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>these weekend farmers' markets are cute, but how would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to be a part of the industrial food supply.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you put down that pam flute. We're talking business here.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they play the pam flute?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Those Andian Highlanders they love that.

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 2>They love that junking. Is that where zam Fear is from?

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 4>No, I think Sam Fear is. I think he's Mediterranean.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to say Greek.

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know if I'm getting He and Yanni confused.

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<v Speaker 4>Though, Oh yeah, maybe we are.

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>They seem like they probably at least go bowling together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yanni didn't play the pan flute, though, did he?

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.880
<v Speaker 4>No, okay, Sam Fear is definitely master of the pamphlet.

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, of course you can't call yourself that on a

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<v Speaker 2>CD unless Oprah has said.

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<v Speaker 4>So, right, and that has the stamp of approval.

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So the price has really gone up too as a result.

0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>And it was not small for a lot of years.

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>One metric ton was about five hundred dollars, and in

0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:02.560
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two that was thirteen hundred dollars, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's almost threefold.

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.440
<v Speaker 2>And again that was six years seven, almost seven years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it kept going up to I think it peaked

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twelve. Really, yeah, it was. The price went

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<v Speaker 4>up quite a bit, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You would think that's great. These farmers are making a

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:15.960
<v Speaker 2>ton of money now, right.

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:21.080
<v Speaker 4>Yes, apparently. I don't know where it started, but somebody

0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 4>created some I guess somebody wrote an article or started

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 4>digging around and they said, hey, everybody, you guys are

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 4>eating all this keen wak. Guess what you did. You

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 4>drove up prices so much that the very indigenous people

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 4>who have been cultivating this for thousands of years can't

0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:40.880
<v Speaker 4>afford it anymore.

0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.119
<v Speaker 2>So stuck on that hipster, right, Like the people of

0:24:44.680 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Fiji are exporting Fiji water, but they're all don't have

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>clean drinking water themselves. That kind of same thing, right.

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.600
<v Speaker 4>It's basically an American pastime to take hipsters down a peg,

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 4>isn't it?

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 4>It seems like it anything hipsters, Like everybody goes to

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 4>a lot of trouble to dig around and find what's

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 4>wrong with it.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like the one thing they can trace back just

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>got to be bled on the hands somewhere. All right, Well,

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:11.959
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break and we'll talk a little bit

0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 1>about what this all means and whether or not that's

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<v Speaker 1>even true.

0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Right after this salvash novision.

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>No, all right, So if it's being produced in the

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.199
<v Speaker 1>Andes and prices are going up, you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>at some point people in the United States might try

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<v Speaker 1>and take a stab at it. And that's exactly what

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 1>happened and is happening. And you sent this great article

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<v Speaker 1>is Quinoa, California Farmers and New k because Cale had

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>a similar explosion in popularity, you know, over.

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<v Speaker 2>The past few years.

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<v Speaker 4>Kale's so hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Cale is out now, yeah, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>made fun of I think for being hipstery and hot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think the hipster's kind of chewed that up

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<v Speaker 4>and spit it out. But it's still great.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. People just hate all that stuff.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, just like what's trending and what's not

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and what we think is cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's write about.

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<v Speaker 4>It, right, And I read this really interesting article. I

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 4>think it was a Mother Jones writer, like a Mother

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Jones AG writer, who basically said, like, hey, dudes, all

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.720
<v Speaker 4>of this stuff that you know is suddenly like the

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 4>hot new superfood. It's niche food marketing. It's the same

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 4>thing as like Oreos coming out with a new flavor

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 4>every like couple months that you got to go try

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 4>or something like that.

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like you're just a sheep for kale.

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.560
<v Speaker 4>But but yeah, but geared toward people who don't eat

0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 4>junk food. But it's the same exact thing, so it

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 4>don't be a chump.

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or at least don't get on your high horse

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>about the other stuff, right being mass marketed.

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 4>Or being eaten by idiots and SAPs and simpletons. So

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 4>the thing is the thing that made it even worse though,

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 4>was the idea that like the huge demand in the

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<v Speaker 4>expanded market for keen waw that was largely found in

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 4>the United States was directly responsible for pricing indigenous farmers

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 4>who were growing that keen waw out of it, so

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 4>they weren't even eating it was the problem and is

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 4>well supposedly right, And what they found was that one

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 4>they couldn't afford it. They've been priced out, yeah, or

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 4>they were making the decision to where yeah, they're making

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.239
<v Speaker 4>more money now, but they would rather sell all their

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 4>keen waw and buy less expensive, less nutrient dense food

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 4>for their families. So the very people producing keen waw,

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<v Speaker 4>we're not only couldn't afford it, they also were being

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 4>malnourished as a result of this keen waw explosion. Right,

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 4>So it was a big deal. It made a lot

0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 4>of people second guess it feel pretty bad about themselves.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 4>And I also guarantee it had a negative impact on

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 4>the kinwah market as well, sure, which would directly affect

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.479
<v Speaker 4>the farmers. But what you dug up though on this

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 4>MPR's the salt I Guess blog their food blog.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a story about it attached to it

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 2>as well.

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 4>It was pretty eye opening.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these dudes got together and they were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get to kind of the root of all this, and

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>so they got a data source et Naho. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>National Survey of Peru that they carry out every year

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>about just Peruvian households and all kinds of data that

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they're collecting, but one of them is food. And there

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>are twenty two thousand randomly selected households. So they got

0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>ten years worth of this data covering from before the

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Keenwah boom a few years before through the keen wa boom,

0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>so they could kind of do a good comparison.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and they split the households into three groups.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, those who grow and eat keenwa, those who eat

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it but don't grow it, and those who neither grow

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it nor eat it.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 2>They say, yeah, I guess there's the final household is

0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>people that pronounce it quinola. It's like one household in Peru.

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>It's like, what is this stuff?

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, And they all three showed a clear rise in

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>their welfare, which they measured is a total value of

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>goods consumed as that price of qen wah rose, and

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>apparently that reflected in the increased living standards in.

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<v Speaker 2>Peru as a whole too. So at the height of

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>that boom.

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<v Speaker 1>The welfare of the growers increased more rapidly than the

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<v Speaker 1>other two groups, though, which you would you know that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and so you can. They basically tracked a direct

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 4>correlation between the keen wah boom around the world and

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 4>and a rise in the household welfare of keenwa farmers

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 4>back in Peru.

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So they conclusively proved pretty much that there there was

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 4>no that these farmers weren't too poor to afford keenwa.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 4>But the other one was still left standing, right right,

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 4>the idea that they were selling all their keenwah, but

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 4>then they were still malnursed because they were buying less

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 4>nutritionally dense food. Yeah, and that apparently they managed to

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 4>disprove as well.

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at least that's what they're saying in this paper.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're not saying this is evidence, but at

0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>least this is what they dug out after pouring over

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>these ten years worth of studies. They said this guy

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Stevens, a doctoral candidate, focused on specifically the Puno

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>region in the Andes, which grows about eighty percent of

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>all the kenwan Peru, and he said this is a

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a cultural and nutritionally hordant food, but it's not.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I think the gist was people are trying to make

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it out to be like this is what they subsist

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>on every day and they can't afford to eat it, right,

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>And he said, this is actually a pretty small part

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>of their diet overall, and they're actually eating more quinoa

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>than ever before in that region that grows the most.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 4>That was pretty surprising.

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>So it said they did not come cut back their

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>consumption between twenty four and twenty twelve despite a fourfold

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>price increase. They see no signs of changing calories, proteins

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:35.040
<v Speaker 1>or carbohydrates and the diet across Peru as a whole.

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So they kind of debunked it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty cool. Hipster's rejoice, They shall rejoice, but there

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 4>are still some outstanding problems, right, sure, So, like you

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 4>said it was, you said that I mentioned it was

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 4>a culturally important food, so much so that Bolivia and

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 4>it's drafted two thousand and nine Constitution and shrine quen

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 4>whas part of their food sovereignty, which is their right

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 4>to protect culturally important food.

0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like, hey, you're coming in here and you're basically

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>taking this and now you're going to grow it all

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>over the world.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Right, And they recognized the importance of queen wa for

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 4>a very long time. There was apparently a Colorado researcher

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 4>who went to Bolivia in nineteen eighty six and was

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:24.720
<v Speaker 4>shot dead trying to smuggle keen Wa seeds out of

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 4>the country. Yeah, and I guess somebody from Colorado eventually

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 4>got them out because Colorado State University patented a hybrid

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 4>quin wa in nineteen ninety four based on Bolivian seeds,

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>and the government of Bolivia called them bio pirates. WHOA, Yeah,

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 4>that's not something you want leveled at you. No, not

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 4>by Bolivia.

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>The other thing too, and I think you sent me

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 2>this was that because there's more. Basically, there's sort of

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a land grab going on.

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is where I was going in Peru where

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden and they realize that you know,

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>before when it wasn't worth that much money they I mean,

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 1>sure they were producing it, but it wasn't like it

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>is now. So all these people are saying, wait, this

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>land that was once unused, like, is anyone claiming it?

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And there's sort of a rush to claim these lands. Well,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>there was fighting going on.

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was violence that broke out in February of

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 4>I think twenty fifteen maybe sorry, twenty fourteen, where one

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 4>guy got his arm blown off by dynamite during this

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 4>battle among hundreds of farmers for some land that had

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 4>been sitting there abandoned for like decades. And part of

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 4>the problem is when you're doing good agricultural practices. What

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 4>did we talk about no till farming in.

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking that too, I can't remember.

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, we've definitely talked a lot about that. Yeah, And

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 4>when you're using good agricultural practice, one of the main

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 4>things you want to do is let fields lay fallow

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 4>for a year season at a time. And they're not

0:33:57.400 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 4>doing that anymore in the Andes. And again, this is

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 4>really really fragile crop land that they're growing this stuff in,

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 4>so they're not letting it lay fallow any longer. And

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 4>they're also using lamas less. Yeah, and lamas and quin

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 4>wa go together like rice and beans, which, by the way,

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>is another complete protein food, but it's not just a

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 4>single food, so you can super food.

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, man, what was that episode? It's totally on

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the tip of my tongue.

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 4>We talked a lot about no till no till farming.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 2>I can't remember. I want to say I had something

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>to do with the dust bowl, but we didn't do

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:36.879
<v Speaker 2>one on the dust ball.

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.480
<v Speaker 4>We did we did one on the dust ball and desertification.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.120
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it was the dust bowl.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good one. Yeah.

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So the lamas, that's one of the big issues, right,

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>is that they're not letting them poop everywhere.

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 4>Well they're not. They're not lama farming like they used to.

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Lamas use a lot of grazing land and they're like,

0:34:55.600 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 4>we can use that instead to grow quin wa.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Because king wa is more valuable than lamas.

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 4>Right, But lamas again and quen wah go together like

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 4>rice and beans, and lama poop is almost like it's

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<v Speaker 4>designed or tailored to fertilize quin wah. They started to

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<v Speaker 4>use sheep poop instead, I guess imported sheep poop, and

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 4>it allows a lot more pests and invasive weeds than

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 4>lama poop does. Right, when lama poop is fertilizing, So

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:30.359
<v Speaker 4>the whole ecosystem is definitely being altered. Yeah, and not

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 4>necessarily in good ways. Because of this huge demand and

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 4>this huge influx of cash, it's basically more money, more problems. Yeah,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.399
<v Speaker 4>the Alto Plano's people are finding out.

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird or not weird, but kind of sad

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>that you can't you know, it can't just be a

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<v Speaker 1>success story nuverous.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm good with the bad.

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I guess in the long run.

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<v Speaker 1>They're also worried that I was talking about all those

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>different varieties. I saw the one hundred and twenty, but

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>it says here there could be up to thousands of

0:36:02.200 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>different varieties. Yeah, and farmers are abandoning most of these

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to concentrate on the ones that they can sell to

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, ship out to export to American markets or

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess just you know, not just America.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I think Europe has eaten stuff like crazy too, are they.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it says that those varieties are This guy

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<v Speaker 1>says that they're the future of Quenwa because they can

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<v Speaker 1>adapt to things like climate change. And if you narrow

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the varieties down to a certain few and they don't adapt,

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>then you're kind of screwed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're sol If you have three thousand to choose

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<v Speaker 4>from to try to adapt to changing climate, then yeah,

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 4>you're way better off. So crop diversity is pretty important.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, that's getting erased as well.

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they're trying to encourage it with these Andean farmers.

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 1>At least they are working with Bolivia and Peru to

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.760
<v Speaker 1>develop internal markets for these threatened varieties, like with school

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>food programs and stuff like, not necessarily to sell, but

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to use like within the country at hospitals and schools.

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.640
<v Speaker 1>They said they've been fairly successful with some of that stuff,

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>so hopefully that continues.

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 4>See that. To me, that's what government subsidies are for

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 4>stuff like that, for like small indigenous farmers who are

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<v Speaker 4>protecting a thousand year old varieties of crops that are

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<v Speaker 4>part of the cultural fabric of a country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for the future for all. Sure, they are growing

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 2>at California though that article you sent this dude is

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>growing it in the Sonoran Desert crazy in the Imperial

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Valley below sea level, in like one of the hottest

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 2>places in North America. Yeah, they're growing quenwa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Well, part of the problem is quinoa is very

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 4>closely related. I think it's in the same genus as

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 4>something called lamb's quarters.

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the weed which.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't really matter up in the Alto Plano, but in California,

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:06.000
<v Speaker 4>lambs quarters is a toxic, toxic plant to livestock which

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:08.959
<v Speaker 4>might accidentally graze on it. Yeah, they're not thinking about

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 4>that kind of stuff. And then it also carries a

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 4>virus that kills alfalfa, which is very much grown in

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.399
<v Speaker 4>California to feed that live stock. Man. So there's it's

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 4>it's weird. It's a complex, amazing plant that shouldn't exist.

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe that'll be the title quin Wa colon complex

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>more complex than you think.

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 4>That's gooding.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Or maybe it should say, well, never mind, I'll forget

0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>that out. Or should we just brainstorm some more on

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>let's show title?

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 4>Let's do it?

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>Are we gonna try that soilent? Yes, let's and then

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<v Speaker 2>do listener mail.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's do.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 3>That all right?

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.439
<v Speaker 4>So, uh here we are. We're gonna try this.

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, soilent. It's it a white bottle.

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.800
<v Speaker 4>We caught a lot of flak about not having tried

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 4>it and still done something. I'm like, well, here we go. Then,

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm not iridescent, but I've done an episode on iridescence.

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 4>Give me a break, people.

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I think you should probably shake well, right.

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:13.399
<v Speaker 4>I think so, I don't know. We gotta go back

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 4>and listen to the episode again. It's been a while.

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:18.240
<v Speaker 2>People also thought that that was a sponsored episode by Soilent,

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I think we said enough bad

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>things about the taste. Yeah, you should have figured out

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 2>that it was not.

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go, so this is us trying solent.

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<v Speaker 4>We also want to say thanks again to Don Kent

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 4>for sending this in.

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<v Speaker 2>It smells like.

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 4>That's a nice kind of a nice smell.

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 2>What does that smell like? It smells like cereal milk.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 4>We got that a lot. A lot of people said

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 4>it smelled like or it tastes like cheerios milk.

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 2>It's totally what it smells like.

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Can we say cheerios? Or is this an episode for cheerios?

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<v Speaker 2>Now all right, I'm gonna should one.

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.759
<v Speaker 4>I thought we were chugging the whole thing. No, oh,

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 4>that's that's not bad. It is.

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad at all.

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent cheerio cereal milk.

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 4>I think I would have come up with that even

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 4>if somebody hadn't said it that's good.

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's sort of bland. It's definitely. It's

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 2>not nearly a sweet. It's not like a honeynut cheerio milk.

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 4>No, that's true cinnamon toast crunch milk.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 2>It's not bad.

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I was dreading this. I thought it was going to

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>be awful from all the comments. But it's not bad

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:24.759
<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. I can see how you would kind

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 4>of start to crave it because it's got that like

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 4>almost a fatty mouthfeel to it, you know what I mean? Yeah,

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 4>like it really gets on the tongue.

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Huh. All right, well there it is.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 4>I should probably stop. It's pretty. It's got a lot

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 4>of calories in it.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's twenty percent if you're a daily nutrition.

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 4>Well thanks again to Don Kent. Thanks again to everybody

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 4>who wrongly called us out for doing an ad for soilent.

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<v Speaker 2>The aftertaste is a little bit like milk of magnesia.

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not kidding that, like my lana.

0:40:57.080 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, I know, you mean kind of chalky. I

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 4>don't have that. M oh. If you want to know

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.919
<v Speaker 4>more about soilet go listen to the soil Lamp sub

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:08.359
<v Speaker 4>In the meantime, if you want to know more about

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 4>Queen Wa, type that word q U I n O

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 4>A into the search bar houstuffworks dot com. And since

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 4>I said search bar, it's time for more soil it.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's time for listening.

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, all right, I'm gonna call yeah.

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I definitely don't like the aftertaste, sort of chalking up

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>on my throat and tongue.

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 4>I kind of like this stuff. I like food more,

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 4>but that's not bad.

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 4>Like if somebody said should I drink soil it, I'd

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 4>say why not?

0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna call this.

0:41:39.960 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Uh, just a nice email from this lovely Australian woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, been a long time listener, first time writer,

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>currently living in Sydney, Australia, though I grew up in

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee and now I'm a Florida.

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Resident all over the place. Wow, so maybe she's not Australian.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.799
<v Speaker 2>I've been listening to y'all. Y'all since I was in

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>college at UTK Go Balls, and I even brought you

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.720
<v Speaker 2>along with me while spending a year living in France.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 2>If you do end up reading this on the air,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>which I don't expect, I would be so thrilled. If

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 2>you give a shout out to my little sister LB,

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 2>currently in Portland. It's up LB.

0:42:17.400 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 4>She's used a little reverse psychology on.

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>You there, Yeah, she did. Anytime we make a road trip.

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 1>We put on stuff you should know, which insights a

0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>groan from her every time.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 2>It's the chit chat that bugs her. We just gave

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>her a shout out.

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, she's not the only person to feel that way.

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:36.680
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>To get to the point, I was listening to The

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Dictator's episode and was so excited to hear you talking

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>about Lucius Cornelius Sulla. In fact, that's my grandmother's maiden name.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>We pronounce it Suella, but whoever knows if that's the

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>true pronunciation. Her family is from southern Italy and immigrated

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>from Naples about one hundred years ago. She recently went

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>on a trip to Italy and studied up on her

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 1>ancestors and even visit a lot of the sites inscribed

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<v Speaker 1>with his name.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty cool.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing to see a piece of your family history

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>show up on your favorite podcast, even if it is

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>about dictators. Gave me a chuckle. Thanks for keeping me entertained.

0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Just recently caught up to all the episodes on iTunes.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know there are much more. Yeah, on

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>your mini more.

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 2>On your website.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, she is a listener, how she is?

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:25.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's Sarah right. Now in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks a lot, Sarah appreciate that. So wait, is she

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 4>from Australia. She's just living in Australia.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Now, I think she's just living there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, got it. If you want to let us know

0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:41.000
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0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.160
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