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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Chuck's here. I am as always. How's it going?
Speaker 1: You're the Andy Richter to your Conan O'Brien, as I
Speaker 1: like to say, I look a little more like Andy Richter. Right,
Speaker 1: there's no con in amongst No, no tall seven foot tall, blanky,
Speaker 1: redheaded headed irishman. Yeah, pale man, it man, it's pale um. Yes.
Speaker 1: But okay, so this is stuff you should know if
Speaker 1: you couldn't tell by now. Um, and uh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about midnight regulation today, Chuck, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I think that's a great, great topic. Okay, So Chuck,
Speaker 1: let me paint a scene for you, right, Okay, anytime
Speaker 1: a president is is leaving the White House and a
Speaker 1: new one's coming in, there are transition teams set up
Speaker 1: right right. Um, Basically, you have a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who have been doing their jobs, you know, directing federal agents.
Speaker 1: He's carrying out new policy, talking about new policy ideas, um,
Speaker 1: and they basically need to pass this information onto the
Speaker 1: next administration, so that you know, there's a smooth transition
Speaker 1: of power. Ideal, ideally, this is what happened. They don't
Speaker 1: just put it in a folder called how to be
Speaker 1: the President and leave it on the tusk of No,
Speaker 1: that would be really really bad. Um. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: some some transition teams are more successful in others. A
Speaker 1: president Bill Clinton had a terrible terrible time with it
Speaker 1: when he came into power. Um, when he was leaving, though,
Speaker 1: he gained a little more confidence. Uh when he left.
Speaker 1: George W. Bush, the second Bush, took over, and when
Speaker 1: his transition team showed up, they found, um surprisingly that
Speaker 1: most most of the keyboards in the in the White
Speaker 1: House offices, the letter W had been removed. I love that.
Speaker 1: I think that's h It really is hysterical, just just
Speaker 1: the thought of and not politically speaking, but just the
Speaker 1: thought of a president playing practical joke on on then yeah,
Speaker 1: and all of his aids and yeah, and there was
Speaker 1: a whoopie cushion left in the chair of his office
Speaker 1: chair right yeah, kick me sign right. Um. So so
Speaker 1: that was awaiting President Bush when he took over. And um,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of other stuff awaiting him as
Speaker 1: well in the form of midnight regulations. Uh. Clinton actually
Speaker 1: published twenties six thousand pages of new regulations. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: the number that we're waiting for his successor, and every
Speaker 1: last one of them ran contrary to Bush's policies. So, um, well,
Speaker 1: before we get into that, how about what what are
Speaker 1: midnight regulations? What's what's the definition? Uh well, I'm just
Speaker 1: going off my brain here. I don't have a definition
Speaker 1: to read, but it's basically, um legislation that a president
Speaker 1: leaving president will try and uh slip through in the
Speaker 1: waning months of their of their tenure, during their midnight period,
Speaker 1: during their midnight period, which is from the time that
Speaker 1: the election is held November until they leave office, basically
Speaker 1: until the inauguration. And every every presidency has a midnight
Speaker 1: right there's there's the end of a presidency, and it's
Speaker 1: those last few months. Um. But some are way worse
Speaker 1: than others. Usually the worst midnight periods, the worst transitions
Speaker 1: come when one party is losing control of the White
Speaker 1: House to another party and they just they do everything
Speaker 1: they can to sabotage one another. So it's kind of roughs.
Speaker 1: It's so unfriendly and Uh, it's hostile. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a little disheartening, yeah, but not surprisingly. And basically,
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you if you leave thousands
Speaker 1: of pages of new regulations, Um, basically, what you're doing
Speaker 1: is you're you're either extending your influence as president beyond
Speaker 1: the time that you leave the White House. Um, you
Speaker 1: could be doing it to hamstring your handicap the next
Speaker 1: in the next administration, basically tying their hands, especially when
Speaker 1: it's you know, when a Democrats taking over from a
Speaker 1: Republican or vice versa. You know, the views run so
Speaker 1: contrary supposedly that um, you know, you want to keep
Speaker 1: the policy making going, and when it's actually with a
Speaker 1: midnight regulation, it's actually exceedingly difficult to um reverse We'll
Speaker 1: get to that in a minute. Many times it's it's
Speaker 1: actually your legacy as a president has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with these midnight regulations. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: times it's the it represents the more radical fringes of
Speaker 1: a presidential agenda. Just amazing that the last two months
Speaker 1: of an eight year tenure can have more of an
Speaker 1: impact than the previous ye know, seven and uh, seven
Speaker 1: years and ten months. Yeah, and well, the weird thing
Speaker 1: is it's it's you can sit there and watch midnight
Speaker 1: regulation going on right um there there, But it's not
Speaker 1: an openly acknowledged activity, okay. UM, So to prove that
Speaker 1: it exists, some political scientists have actually, um done studies
Speaker 1: on the Federal Register. The Federal Register is the complete
Speaker 1: comprehensive guide to federal regulation, and um they published actually
Speaker 1: they publish addendums to it every day. So UM, some
Speaker 1: p some political scientists went back and looked at when
Speaker 1: you know, the amount of pages published in the Federal
Speaker 1: Register per quarter, per quarter, um, and they found that
Speaker 1: in the midnight of a presidency, especially during um, the
Speaker 1: transition of power from one party to another, the pages
Speaker 1: the page volume increases like sevent So it's odd to
Speaker 1: think that you would have to go prove it, but
Speaker 1: you know, the president's like, well, I'm just going about
Speaker 1: my midnight regulation right now. It's it's it's such a
Speaker 1: cynical and sinister, democratically speaking tool, um, because the president
Speaker 1: is no longer accountable and so many people don't even
Speaker 1: realize what's going on, and uh, it's it's going on
Speaker 1: right now. I know you have a couple of things
Speaker 1: you wanted to mention, right, Yeah, I mean I've got
Speaker 1: a list. Uh, there's actually a great website called pro
Speaker 1: Publica dot org. That's p r O dash publica dot
Speaker 1: org and you can get a full list there of
Speaker 1: the Midnight regulations at President Bush is trying to get
Speaker 1: through and UM not drawn judgment on any of them.
Speaker 1: It's up to you to decide. But that's a good
Speaker 1: website you can go to to actually read them and
Speaker 1: get a status on whether or not it's UM open
Speaker 1: for comment or close for comment or under review or
Speaker 1: approved or finalized or in effect. And we'll get to
Speaker 1: the comment part in a little bit too, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we well let's let's let's talk about how it works. Right. So, basically,
Speaker 1: the legislative branch identifies a problem UM and says, well,
Speaker 1: we we could create this agency to address that problem,
Speaker 1: say the Environmental Protection Agency or the Securities and Exchange
Speaker 1: Commission or whatever, the FDA, it doesn't matter. All of
Speaker 1: those were created by congressional mandate, right, But it's up
Speaker 1: to the executive branch, the president's side, to make sure
Speaker 1: that these these these mandates are being carried out. And
Speaker 1: how that's carried out is left pretty much of the
Speaker 1: discretion of the president. Congress can threaten to withhold funding
Speaker 1: or something like that. Um. They can also repeal laws.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second too, But for
Speaker 1: the most part, the president issues regulations or the executive
Speaker 1: branch issues rules and regulations on how federal agency should act. Right. So,
Speaker 1: if you have a really pro business president, they're probably, um,
Speaker 1: not going to give the SEC a lot of power. Um.
Speaker 1: And if you have somebody who's very much pro consumer,
Speaker 1: the SEC will likely you know, look out for investors
Speaker 1: more through these regulations. Right. And it's it's a lot
Speaker 1: more than just investors. I mean, just about every aspect
Speaker 1: of our lives as Americans is impacted by these regulatory agencies,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean like the the the e p A,
Speaker 1: the you and I have to go get um admissions
Speaker 1: tests every year before we get a new tag. That's
Speaker 1: e p A. That's a federal you know regulation. Um.
Speaker 1: We can't run around, you know, shooting heroin between our toes.
Speaker 1: D A looks out for that kind of thing. Um.
Speaker 1: And then there's just a lot more like profanity on television.
Speaker 1: That's the uh f CC. So we're impacted in many,
Speaker 1: many ways. This isn't like just some high up hierarchy
Speaker 1: thing that's going on politically speaking, it's federal agencies are
Speaker 1: actually where the government and the public touch. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: good way to say it. Thanks, thanks a lot that
Speaker 1: so okay, So we're impacted by this, and a president's
Speaker 1: views will direct how much we're impacted. Okay. Um, So
Speaker 1: these new rules are created, Uh, the the Office of Information,
Speaker 1: Information and Regulatory Affairs, they review these things right exactly,
Speaker 1: especially if it's big money involved. Yeah, hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: impact or more on the economy annually. Right, that's when
Speaker 1: they get you know, special attention, right right. Um, So
Speaker 1: the the o I r A is supposed to look
Speaker 1: at these things, these new proposals, these proposed rules, and
Speaker 1: they're also supposed to well, they're supposed to look if
Speaker 1: to see if these things are cost with a cost
Speaker 1: benefit analysis. Um. They're supposed to look if the rules
Speaker 1: even needed, if there's any way to um, you know,
Speaker 1: use market forces to stimulate the change that these rules
Speaker 1: are meant to address, and any competing theories that may
Speaker 1: actually be better competing alternatives to the proposed rule. So
Speaker 1: you can imagine for each proposed new regulation. This is
Speaker 1: just supposed to take a lot of time. If the
Speaker 1: O I R A signs off on the thing, um uh,
Speaker 1: an announcement gets published, and they actually publish an anouncement
Speaker 1: in the Federal Register when they're first considering it. Then
Speaker 1: they publish another announcement saying what the outcome was once
Speaker 1: they once the O I R A signs off on it,
Speaker 1: and it's published in the Federal Register either thirty days
Speaker 1: for kind of smaller things, sixty days for big regulation,
Speaker 1: it becomes law. And that's sixty day time period is
Speaker 1: pretty important because what a president will do when they're
Speaker 1: leaving office. If they hit their deadlines and get these
Speaker 1: uh through quick enough, the sixty days is up before
Speaker 1: the next president comes in, and it makes it a
Speaker 1: lot harder to undo what they've done. Yeah. Yeah, Once
Speaker 1: it's become law, you the process to repeal it is
Speaker 1: pretty much the reverse of the process to have it
Speaker 1: become law. You have to provide studies. Um, you have
Speaker 1: to provide alternatives that the president doesn't just come in
Speaker 1: and wave his or her magic wand and say everything
Speaker 1: my predecessor just said is wrong and it's gone right. Good.
Speaker 1: Try but now and that's actually been a proposal to
Speaker 1: solve midnight regulation is to allow incoming presidents to repeal
Speaker 1: any law passed in the in the midnight period. Um.
Speaker 1: This is this is not necessarily the case. Um. This
Speaker 1: has never been entertained as far as I know. Seriously,
Speaker 1: there are some things you can do as an incoming president, right,
Speaker 1: um too to stop this regulation what you got so
Speaker 1: once it's uh, the the new administrations in, they have
Speaker 1: to show that why repealing it, um is a good idea,
Speaker 1: And a lot of times you have to provide an
Speaker 1: alternative form of legislation. And then um. Congress actually has
Speaker 1: a tool as well, called the Congressional Review Act. And
Speaker 1: this came about, which is ironic because the president that
Speaker 1: signed that bill into law was the most prolific midnight
Speaker 1: regulator of all time, Bill Clinton correct. Um, he had
Speaker 1: like twenty six thousand pages published in the regis. Second
Speaker 1: to him was Jimmy Carter, whose presidency the term was
Speaker 1: coined after, um because he he just took this old
Speaker 1: fashioned tool to a brand new level. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Clinton signed the c r A in the law right right,
Speaker 1: which basically repeals new regulations, allows Congress to repeal these
Speaker 1: new regulations with the simple majority in the House and Senate,
Speaker 1: and it still requires the president's signature though, so so
Speaker 1: it only works sometimes. And the only time that it
Speaker 1: works is when the president and Congress are controlled by
Speaker 1: the same party, right, um, Because if you have a
Speaker 1: president who is coming in and Congress is of an
Speaker 1: opposite party, Congress isn't going to take up the c
Speaker 1: r A to repeal anything because they were with the
Speaker 1: old president, right right. And then if you have a
Speaker 1: president who's carrying on the same party from the old
Speaker 1: president and Congress is new and of the their party,
Speaker 1: they may take up, you know, moves to repeal anything,
Speaker 1: and the president is not going to sign off on it, right,
Speaker 1: And which explains partially why it hasn't been used that often. Um,
Speaker 1: even though in two thousand one that was the case,
Speaker 1: I think it was only used one time officially to
Speaker 1: repeal one of Billy Boys. Yeah, to repeal a regulations
Speaker 1: that would prevent repetitive workplace stress injuries. Interesting, yeah, um.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that I thought was
Speaker 1: interesting when I was reading this was one of the reasons,
Speaker 1: because I thought, you know, why is it so easy
Speaker 1: to get these laws pushed through with the final you know,
Speaker 1: final minute. And that's exactly why. It's because this uh
Speaker 1: they're overloaded with um you know, like you said, twenty
Speaker 1: six thousand pages, but they're not given any extra staff
Speaker 1: or anything. And I think I read UH one stat
Speaker 1: on one of these environmental laws that the Bush is
Speaker 1: working with the e p A for UM. They did
Speaker 1: the average time and it was nine seconds for the
Speaker 1: amount of employees that he had in the amount of comments.
Speaker 1: Nine seconds to read one of these comments and respond
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, they went to two hundred thousand public
Speaker 1: comments on one new piece of regulation in four days.
Speaker 1: So that kind of answers your question why it's easy
Speaker 1: to get these things through. Yeah, because don't forget the
Speaker 1: o I r A is part of the Office of
Speaker 1: Management and Budget, which is a White House office. The
Speaker 1: federal agencies are directed by the president. UM, the the
Speaker 1: the group in charge of reviewing these proposals are directed
Speaker 1: by the President. It's basically the executive branch running the
Speaker 1: show on this new regulation. And you know that it
Speaker 1: is it's very easy to get pushed through, and like
Speaker 1: I said, it's very cynical use of power. And president
Speaker 1: is no longer accountable. Another proposal for any midnight regulation
Speaker 1: is not to allow the president to propose any more
Speaker 1: regulation during the midnight period, Like you can't make new
Speaker 1: laws anymore. Sorry, you've been you know, you've either served
Speaker 1: both your terms and somebody else has been selected, or
Speaker 1: you've been ousted because someone else has been selected. Either way,
Speaker 1: your presidency technically ended in November five. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that would be more effective because basically what you would
Speaker 1: do there is you would have a president who I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times administrations kind of hold these
Speaker 1: in their back pocket because they know why trying to
Speaker 1: introduce its law when it can be debated and when
Speaker 1: I can be impeached. Yeah, when I can be impeached,
Speaker 1: when I'll just kind of hang onto this and tell
Speaker 1: him on my way out and then just kind of
Speaker 1: sneak it through the back door busch. Actually, um, I
Speaker 1: heard it called the an eleven o'clock regulation flurry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he his chief of staff, Joshua Bolton, apparently sent
Speaker 1: a memo out to all agencies saying, if you want
Speaker 1: new stuff, uh, in prepared by June one, so we
Speaker 1: can have it passed by November one, which is well
Speaker 1: before the deadline. Well, I think they did that because UM,
Speaker 1: President Clinton famously did not get his through within the
Speaker 1: sixty day period. He waffled until the end, and he
Speaker 1: did well. He was busy with defending himself a lot
Speaker 1: of that time. That is not making excuses, but there
Speaker 1: was a lot going on in his final years. Let's
Speaker 1: just say that. Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely true. So yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't get his end on time, and so President
Speaker 1: Bush is able to come in and get a lot
Speaker 1: of those turned back. Well he he Bush, like Clinton
Speaker 1: and Reagan, UH issued an executive order that says just
Speaker 1: anything that's under review right now that hasn't been published
Speaker 1: in the Federal Register, it's suspended. But you can't you
Speaker 1: can't just see that. You have to. You're fighting a
Speaker 1: political fight a lot of times. When Busch came in,
Speaker 1: one of the things that Clinton had left for him
Speaker 1: was UM a new regulation on acceptable arsenic levels in
Speaker 1: the water supply and UM just one that was just
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah yeah, yeah, UM. But you know
Speaker 1: they would have an impact on business, and UM, as
Speaker 1: we all know, Bush is so pro business. You could
Speaker 1: also make an argument that he's anti consumer UM and
Speaker 1: he's just always kind of been on the side of business, right. Uh,
Speaker 1: he didn't like how it impacted things like mining, the
Speaker 1: mining industry, water. Um, the water boards who would have
Speaker 1: to you know, step up their their water purification, not waterboarding.
Speaker 1: Don't get confused that later. Um. So uh, he basically
Speaker 1: said this one in particular suspended, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: fight it to the death. And he spent a lot
Speaker 1: of political capital after he came in fighting this regulation
Speaker 1: that he ultimately had to bite and you know, except
Speaker 1: and he ended up eating eight percent of them. And
Speaker 1: I think he was on record saying that he that
Speaker 1: was a big mistake on his part, correct, because he
Speaker 1: became painted as a basically an anti environmentalist from the
Speaker 1: get go. But that's not necessarily to say that. Um,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a deserved reputation from what he's doing right now.
Speaker 1: Right most of and if you go to this pro
Speaker 1: public A site, most of the midnight regulations he's trying
Speaker 1: to get through have the letters E. P. A at
Speaker 1: the front of him. So, um, regardless of what side
Speaker 1: you're on, they are environmental issues, yes, yes, trying to
Speaker 1: stay fair and balanced here, I could read a few
Speaker 1: of them to you just by title. We won't get
Speaker 1: into the because it would take too long. But UM
Speaker 1: power plants be exempted from installing pollution controls. Uh. The
Speaker 1: e p A may ease restrictions for power plants near
Speaker 1: national parks. UM e p A may allow certain hazardous
Speaker 1: waste to be used as fuel. I read another one
Speaker 1: about rocket fuel being allowed in drinking water. Uh. Fisheries
Speaker 1: have been doing a lot of research on fisheries right
Speaker 1: now because I'm writing about fishing quotas and UM, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of work being done to basically allow to
Speaker 1: push the science out of it. As far as studying
Speaker 1: fish populations. Yeah, there won't be any independent scientific review
Speaker 1: right right. It's basically saying, deciding whether it has an
Speaker 1: environmental impact, Well, the fisheries are going to be deciding that.
Speaker 1: And I think we all know the fisheries are probably
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, let's keep fishing. Well let's I read
Speaker 1: somebody who's part of a special interest fishing fishery group
Speaker 1: who's saying, no, no, that's not true. Well, we'll self regulate.
Speaker 1: But I think it's one of those things that's yet
Speaker 1: to be seen. Yeah, I'm a bit of a cynic
Speaker 1: when it comes to things like companies self regulating themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of proof over the years to
Speaker 1: kind of you know, back that up. I got another
Speaker 1: one for you. Financial planners will no longer have to
Speaker 1: disclose any conflict of interest in the advice they give
Speaker 1: to anybody. It sounds like a good idea. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. Um. And there's one called the right
Speaker 1: to conscience uh rule. Basically, it says that if you
Speaker 1: are a healthcare provider, you you can't not hire somebody
Speaker 1: if they would refuse to provide birth control, which basically
Speaker 1: then you know you have you have protection. It's the
Speaker 1: right to conscience is based on abortion, and a doctor
Speaker 1: can refuse to you can't force somebody to perform an abortion.
Speaker 1: In other words, they have a right to conscience. This
Speaker 1: so basically this extends that to contraception, which now kind
Speaker 1: of equates contraception with abortion, which has a lot of
Speaker 1: people a little nervous, right, And I think this I
Speaker 1: don't think it's the same one, but it's another one
Speaker 1: has to do with abortion. It's federally funded institutions can
Speaker 1: turn people down for an abortion, um, for moral and
Speaker 1: religious reasons. Yeah, I think that's part of the same
Speaker 1: one as pretty expansive. Yeah, yeah, so, um, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. We have a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of big changes to look forward to. I also heard
Speaker 1: there's some oil drilling going on now in a polar
Speaker 1: bear habitat um. But uh, yeah, we'll look to see
Speaker 1: what Obama can do because you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: these things very much fly contrary to things he's publicly
Speaker 1: said he opposes. They they fly in the face of
Speaker 1: his views, but he may have a hard time doing
Speaker 1: it because Bush did it write it sounds like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think regardless of what political spectrum, what side of
Speaker 1: the spectrum you fall on, it's just fascinating to look
Speaker 1: at the push in the poll of the transition, you know,
Speaker 1: between administrations. It's fascinating. It absolutely is. And also, if
Speaker 1: you think about it, what Bush did with the right
Speaker 1: to conscience thing, he basically just set Obama up for
Speaker 1: a a national fight about abortion right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really interesting to see how it's handled.
Speaker 1: Because he didn't have enough to worry about. Here's this too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so midnight regulations there you have it. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what time it is, right, it is time Josh
Speaker 1: for listener mail. Alright, so what do we have. I've
Speaker 1: got a few quick ones today. I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of corrections because we get stuff wrong people. You might
Speaker 1: not realize that this is largely unscripted. So we'll bring
Speaker 1: up something we didn't even know we were going to
Speaker 1: bring up, and sometimes we don't have the exact fact
Speaker 1: on that, so we count on the listener to point
Speaker 1: us in the right direction. Sometimes. Yeah, that's exactly what
Speaker 1: happens in this case. Darryl Kowowski of Denver send us
Speaker 1: a message about the O c D podcast, and he
Speaker 1: says he wants to make a correction on something about
Speaker 1: when I mentioned Chris Jackson the basketball player uh changed
Speaker 1: his name to uh Mammad Abdulla rauf In, and he
Speaker 1: actually had Taurette syndrome, not O c D. There's kind
Speaker 1: of a big difference. Uh, actually there's not really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I will school you like a school darrel in
Speaker 1: my email reply, or like Chris Jackson at school, both
Speaker 1: of us in basketball. Yeah, but actually I'm not bad. Alright,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Chris Jackson could. Yeah, well, if he's
Speaker 1: done tying his shoes, which was part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Tourette's and o c D actually are often misdiagnosed as
Speaker 1: one to the other because they have a lot of
Speaker 1: the same symptoms. So one of his deals was he
Speaker 1: spent so much time trying his shoes or to hit
Speaker 1: the perfect shot be where he left the court. So
Speaker 1: that was actually Turette's at work. But they're very similar
Speaker 1: in some minds. Hey, brief aside, have you ever seen
Speaker 1: the documentary Twitch and Shout. No, It's about Turette's and
Speaker 1: it is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in my life. Add that to my cue. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have another one. Um on guerrilla gardening. Someone wrote in
Speaker 1: from the Netherlands, our friends in Holland. Dave Inn says
Speaker 1: that Josh's comment on Bowery being a Dutch farm is wrong.
Speaker 1: Uh that was true in the old days, but that
Speaker 1: word is long gone basically in the Netherlands, and now
Speaker 1: the word for farm is uh pronounced. Gave me an
Speaker 1: English pronunciation. I think it is borderie, border eye or borderie,
Speaker 1: and that's what a farm is now in the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: I need to brush up on my Dutch. So we
Speaker 1: were wrong. Now I could I could really make my
Speaker 1: way in like, you know, sixteenth century, never the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: You well, apparently now they'd be like, what the hell
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Right, And I've got a final
Speaker 1: quick one from our fan, Devin Wallace wrote in Basically
Speaker 1: he was one of these guys that right, Simon says, hey,
Speaker 1: you say my name on the air, and I wrote
Speaker 1: him back and said, no, no, Devon, that's not how
Speaker 1: it works. You need to give me something. So I
Speaker 1: requested that Devon, right, a hi ku And if you
Speaker 1: did that, then we mentioned so here's the hiku mountains
Speaker 1: and verse. Red squirrels hiding in trees, huge rocks in
Speaker 1: the park. Beautiful And depending on whether you think squirrel
Speaker 1: is two syllables or one, I'm debating his well, I
Speaker 1: say one syllable, in which cases is not a hiku.
Speaker 1: Oh just roll would make it a hi k? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hi Q. We'll go with that. We'll go with that, right,
Speaker 1: So thanks Devin for the hiku. Now, well done, squirre roll,
Speaker 1: squirre roll. Well, if you want to learn more about
Speaker 1: squirrel rolls, um midnight regulations of course, and actually we
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