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Visit CLEARVIEWFCU 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:44.000 dot org and by iron Workers Local Union number three. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.319 We don't go to the office. We build it. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.440 Our number two after day number two in the books 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.440 here for the Steelers, West Shuler, Matt Williamson. Of course, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.360 it's the drive. We are in the press box at 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:02.960 Chucknollfield High Top, Saint Vincent College's campus here, of course, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.600 in another beautiful day in Latroll. So far, so far, 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:10.920 so good. The Skies man, the I know we say 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:12.680 this every and some of the things are a little 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.720 redundant because we're here in the same setting every year 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:18.440 describing it. But there are so many days out here, 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.479 and Matt, this is one of them where the sky 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.000 and the scenery just almost looks painted. Yeah. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.720 Yeah, yeah. You've got rolling mountains. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.880 You've got the rolling mountains off to the right, and 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.520 the blue sky with some clouds, and you've got the 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.120 church basilica in front of us. I mean it it is. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:32.600 It looks. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.080 It's a pretty campus to architecture. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.479 Our guy Ed Trupe, who you know, of course, hosts 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:41.400 the Steelers Standard. You can catch him every day here too, 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:45.520 with Baco and a Dan Ski. This is Ed's well 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:47.360 I guess I think he got hired right around this 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.560 time last year. He's giving me a thumbs up. Ed was. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:52.360 Ed was out here a couple times last year, but 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.880 this is his first time really out here every day, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.960 hosting a show, big part of training camp. He actually 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.360 like the last hour. I told him, I was like, dude, 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:01.880 just go for a walk, go check it out here, 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.000 and he did that. He went around campus and everything 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:05.760 and was raving about how beautiful it is. It's a 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.680 small campus, Matt, but there's just so many beautiful areas 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.079 here and all around this entire kind of Laurel Highlands, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.840 Laurel Valley, area. It's just a beautiful part of the 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.040 state of Pennsylvania out here in another beautiful day today. 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:18.800 I gotta take your advice and ask you roam around 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.119 campus a little more. I think the same pass everywhere, 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.280 and like when we went to the basketball court the 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.000 other day, the first time I've been in there, even 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.520 been in that building. But no, it's it's very cool. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:32.280 I mean, it's a small school. Obviously there's a religious 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.560 background to it as well, so maybe it's not for everyone, 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.280 you know, I'm not here to recruit sating, you know, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.119 people to go to Saint Vincent's, but I could see 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.600 the allure for sure, and it's really perfect for what 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.200 we use it for. There's a reason that the Steelers 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.079 have been here this long. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.840 It's fantastic. I do. I do love a college campus. 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.560 I've been. I've been fortunate to be on a lot 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.760 of a lot of big schools in their campuses, a 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.440 lot of smaller schools in their campuses. This is one 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.520 of my favorite campuses in the entire country. It is. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.080 It's just beautiful out here. Most of my other ones 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.360 would be like Texas and the Michigan a little different, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.400 you know, a little different, but this, This would definitely 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:07.760 be towards the top of my list. I love it 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.480 out here and it is another beautiful day today here 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.400 with practice number two in the books for the Steelers. 0:03:14.000 --> 0:03:16.679 So it's no surprise or no you know secret. I 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:19.280 listened to a ton of podcasts, almost all NFL stuff, 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.640 and every year, without fail, I'll stumble into a podcast 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.520 where one of the hosts or somebody prominent does a 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.360 camp tour or whatever and comes here for the first time. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:32.280 You know, there's there's some people that have been coming 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.000 year after year. They know what to expect, you know, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.160 but there's always someone that I'm listening to that comes 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:40.160 the first time. It's like, okay, so the Steelers have 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.280 this weird magic of how does Tomlin get them the 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.280 over wins all the time, and it's like almost everyone's 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.680 like it starts there. Yep, it starts here, you know 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.200 what I mean. There's there's a reason people can laugh 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.040 at the tradition or boy they're lucky with turnovers and 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.320 blah blah blah, and you know, the metrics don't line 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:58.960 up to be in a playoff team. And I'm not 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:00.840 saying this is the only reason it happens, but it's 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:02.400 part of it. Yeah, absolutely right. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.760 Wolf used to point this out. Every Steelers team that 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.400 has ever won a playoff game, it started right here. 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:09.920 Yeah. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.160 Every Steelers team that's ever won a Super Bowl, it 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.800 started right here. Now, those two years during COVID, I 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.440 used to joke with Wolf like, hey, you know, if 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.200 the Steelers win a playoff game or win a Super Bowl, 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.560 you can't say that anymore, right, But all six Super 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:24.600 Bowls the Steelers. Of course, that first playoff win, the 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.960 Immaculate Reception in seventy two. You know, that was a 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:30.000 few years after they started coming out here. So yeah, things, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.680 you know, there's I like the phrase there's no such 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.400 thing the coincidences, right, yeah, yeah, I kind of butchered 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.200 that there. But there's a phrase of like, there's no 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:41.360 such thing as a coincidence, And I certainly don't think 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.159 there's any coincidence that the Steelers organization started winning a 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.200 lot more games and producing a lot more Hall of 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.120 Famers and a lot more good times when they started 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.159 coming out here to Saint Vincent College. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.800 But it is a beautiful day as you started. 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.080 It absolutely is. And I know the earlier practice times 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.279 for some people might make it a little more difficult 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.240 because you can't like take the half day of work 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:02.640 and then and then get out here for the two 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.880 o'clock practice. But always, as we tell people, if you 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.719 can make it out here on a Saturday or for 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.680 any of these days, it is it's wonderful. I think 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.640 it's gonna be bonkers. Yeah, it's gonna being I think 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.760 Saturday is gonna be insane. I think all the weekend 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.800 practices again with you know, with a little earlier practices. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.200 We understand for some people, you know, eleven am practice 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.919 versus at two o'clock. You know two o'clock practice, you 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.880 can leave work at noon or twelve thirty or one 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.040 and still make it out here for it. Uh, not 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:32.640 as easy with the eleven am practices. But yeah, I 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.120 think that's gonna result in the weekend practices being crazy. Matt. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.479 Saturday night lights next weekend, I bet you will be 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.280 will be absolutely out of control at all the cool tradition, 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.960 another very cool tradition, but especially with it being on 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.279 a Saturday and not a Friday, I bet you it'll 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.040 be even more of a wild crowd. And then Monday 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:52.200 here on campus is gonna be nuts, Matt, because obviously 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.080 it's the first day that the pads go on, but 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.839 also right across the way from us here at the 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.720 baseball field, the Pat McAfee show will be live. Oh 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.080 that's Monday, from from noon to to on ESPN. That 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.760 is on he was he was behind us over here 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:07.840 on the side, and I think that created quite a 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:12.200 log jam of traffic there. It was nuts. So he 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:15.280 will be uh saw. I saw Bert tweeting about that today, 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.160 Bert Lawton. Of course, he was tweeting that it's going 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.280 to be in the baseball field over there, and I 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:21.760 think the entrance is going to be kind of set 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:22.760 up in the outfield, and. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:24.719 So you might be more doubt into this than me. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:28.440 Does McAfee do several training camps? 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.800 No, I think he just does thought he just does 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.359 this one. He does. They move his show around a 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.960 lot to different stuff, right, but I think this is 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:36.440 the only. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.000 Training he doesn't do a training camp tour. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.679 They might do a day with the Colts too, because 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.200 obviously he's based out of indian I think he does. 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:44.640 I think he does. I think they do one day 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.839 with the Colts, obviously, the team he played for and 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.080 where he lives now, and then one day here, you know, 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:49.800 the area that. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.080 He grew up. But if he was in if he 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:52.600 grew up in Olpasso, he wouldn't come. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:59.000 Out here, correct, right deep in the west. So Samora 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.040 moving and shaking out on the field in front of us. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.600 Matt is, we'll have another walk through. I would imagine 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.159 before they started coming down here, I would think so 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.320 I would. It was I think late in the later 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.800 in the four o'clock hour, when they started matriculating their 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.480 way down here. Yesterday we see some of the equipment 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.640 guys getting some stuff set up as the Steelers will 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.160 have their their walk through portion of proceedings here in 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:22.160 the evening on this Thursday. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.560 And we say this all the time, and Dale and 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.120 I said it for decades. It feels like that these 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.800 guys work on the fields constantly too. I mean there's 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.200 there's not much going on, but there's always something going 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.560 on on these football. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.000 Fields, absolutely right. Yeah, it's it's there's very rarely a 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.640 time when it's quiet here on the grounds. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.000 There's nobody touching the field in any way, shape or 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:42.680 for him, it like never. 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.120 Happened right midnight exactly. I was gonna say, maybe when 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.120 maybe when the sun goes down. That's about it. And 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.520 you know what, it's funny. I was I was talking 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.240 about this with with Ed and some other people towards 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.640 the end of camp. A lot of times, Matt, it'll 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.600 be eight o'clock at night here and you'll see like 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.320 the Saint Vincent lacrosse team or the women's soccer team 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.360 or whatever. They'll be out here doing their practices. But 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.720 they're always on the turf field over there and not 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.080 the grass ones right here. But you'll see that when 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.880 we get to the last few days of camp, when 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.440 all those Saint Vincent athletes start reporting to campus. 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:16.520 You see a lot more people around. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.600 You'll see like the lacrosse team and the soccer team 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.360 in the evenings because that's the only time they can 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.760 get out there, down on the turfield. 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.880 And often I haven't seen it yet these two days, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.000 but you'll see a lot of kids in like flag 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.240 football and like some kind of little camps on that 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.400 that turf field. I don't know why, but the Steelers 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.400 barely ever step foot on that field. I don't know 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.679 if the quality is not to their liking or I 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.640 don't know, it's it's usually field turf field. 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.640 It's usually only when it rains and they're like, we 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:42.360 don't want there outside. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:44.200 And now they're going to the new indoor, the new 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.000 indoor here, and rarely do you see them on that 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.199 field in any way, shape or form. 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.040 It is a little bit smaller of a field, I think. 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:50.719 I don't think it looks more narrow. I don't think 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.560 it's a full one hundred yard and I think it's 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.760 full dimensions if you will, but it is. It's the 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:58.240 only one outside here that is not grass. It's it's 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.120 the one turf field over there. But then yeah, it's also. 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.640 A very dangerous wall in the back corner too. If 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:04.880 you're throwing fade balls back there. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.440 There absolutely is a nice retaining wall over there in 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.400 the corner. And that's a great point by you. You know, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.920 we would see if it was if it was a 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.440 thunder and lightning type storm in the past, they would 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.400 move into the gymnasium because that was their only option. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:19.160 But if it was just a real rainy day, they 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.280 would go to the turf field over here. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.800 They would do at least like individual stuff. Yes there. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.920 Yeah, Now though you're right, I mean, we haven't assumed 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.080 they go. Weather's been great, but I would assume that 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.840 the new building that we talked about, the new rec 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.040 center behind us, that has I think it's like a 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.480 seventy yard indoor field in there. Hey, hopefully the weather 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.880 will hold out and we won't have to uh to 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:39.880 see them inside there. 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.640 And just chatting with some of the beat writers last 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.040 night at Sharky's, they I guess they don't know if 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.480 they're invited or not to the indoor if and when 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:48.079 that happens. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.679 Interesting, Yeah, maybe they'd use that as an opportunity to 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.560 get some some closed doors work done. Maybe maybe very interesting. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.520 Yeah, interesting that this hasn't come up yet. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.199 I guess, yeah, it'll be. It'll be. Uh, it'll be 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.080 something we'll keep an eye on. If we do have 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.680 one of those days again, Hopefully it stays in the 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:07.079 in the seventies and warm and beautiful like it has 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.160 been out here. Looks like next week there's some possibility 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.440 for some weather, but we always know that. We also 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.680 know that can change very quickly. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.040 It does happen quickly on here. So I don't know 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.720 if people like our play by play of groundskeeping or not, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.560 but I do it every year a little bit because 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.880 it intrigues me going on. But my man here with 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.360 the rollers, he's got the three heavy rollers that's patting 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.760 it down. They've only done from the numbers to the sideline. Yeah, 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.080 he is not even cross midfield. He's doing the length 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.280 of the field. But he's only working on really one. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.559 Third of the field at the boundaries. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.520 Yeah, he's only basically gone from I'm not sure if 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.240 his hashes or the numbers to the far sideline. He 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.040 has not worked on this side of the field at all. 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:49.040 I don't know if he will or if there's just 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:51.840 they think that side's a little loose, you know, maybe 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:52.880 the more drills. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.040 Drill on the sidelines. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.959 But oh again, I'd love to get one of the 0:10:58.000 --> 0:10:59.400 guys up here and coach es up. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.000 It's almost it's kind of like a field zamboni that 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.640 he's he's cat rolling around there right now, heavy roller weights. 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.640 See all right, he's making a turn. Is he going 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.280 to go through the center of the field here this time? 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.719 Is he gonna still be shock comes all the way 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:14.199 our direction? 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.080 You gonna stay out on the bound Now he's gonna 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:16.480 prove me wrong. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:18.000 He's done. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.360 He's finally going down the hash marks here. Oh, I 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.480 tell you what This is thrilling stuff I do. It's 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.520 the nerdy stuff that you can. You don't come out 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.400 here to Saint Vincent College just because you love the 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.800 Steelers in football. You come out for all these different 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.120 uh you know, the minutia, the details. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.280 These scene definitely the closest to us that he's come. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.880 Maybe I was off on that seeing how the sausage 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.680 is made out here is uh is the great Kyle 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.920 Powers equipment manager is driving some looks like lights and 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:47.760 video equipment. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.160 Remember yesterday fifty the massive work they were doing. 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.760 Yeah, we were talking. They did a pretty good job there. 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:58.040 There's uh, there's always It is amazing to me how 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.280 fast even with all the I mean, they spend hours 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.679 on these fields every day and it is still amazing 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.360 how fast they get torn up. But when you have 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:10.559 what ninety some athletes out there, plus all coaches and 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.320 ninety some big athletes out there, it does It does 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.120 make sense. And that's that's why they need all these 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.640 different fields mad of, you know, to to make sure 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.880 that they're keeping it all safe and playable and all 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:22.880 that good stuff for the guys. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.480 And you were describing this to me too, because it's 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.640 sort of topical because World Cup was just around. But 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.640 I mean the damage that a football team does to 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.440 a field compared to a soccer match. Nuts, right, Nuts, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.000 That's why the that's why the yourceros. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.960 That's why all those stadiums went back to their turf 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.880 as soon as the World Cup was over. Is because 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.680 it is quite the maintenance cost. You know what, Messi's 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.280 what like five foot nine and probably weighs one hundred 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:50.319 and fifty hundred and sixty pounds. There's there's not many 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:53.760 Darnell Washington's out there for Argentina or Spain or in 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.840 the World Cup. It's a little bit of a different 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:57.280 beast out here, actually. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.880 Dark size shoes digging into the into the turf, you know. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.760 Good lord, imagine though Max Starks is like a center 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.800 back or like a striker trying to corner kick, trying 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.520 to get the get that guy to not get a 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:10.080 header on the ball. I'll tell you what he might 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.600 have He might have been onto something there. I think 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.080 he'll take a couple Super Bowl rings that he won 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:15.280 here with the Steelers. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.280 Though they're still not coming very far away. Though it's 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.640 like the same everything over there has gotten a lot 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:20.800 of rolling things over here. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.040 Haven't gotten any it's all meticulously playing. 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:26.640 Yeah, there's definitely like McCarthy practice report down to the 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.559 fifty six minute. 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.080 Speaking of offensive linemen and big people, I do want 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.480 to uh Brandon Thorne, who were big fans of put 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.400 out his annual offensive line rankings. I was kind of 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:39.800 surprised where the Steelers landed. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.679 Yeah, I think there's some reasons for that. We'll save 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.760 it for next segment. We will talk that when we 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.280 be a little more encouraging than the number that they're at. 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.720 Okay, let's talk some some offensive line and some expectations 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.079 for this unit as we roll along here in the 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.560 second hour, West Uler, Matt Williamson. All part of our 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.960 ongoing training camp coverage. It's the Drive Steelers Nation Radio 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.360 on the Steelers Audio Network. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.160 This is live coverage up the twenty twenty six Steelers 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:09.480 Training Camp or the Steelers Audio Network, presented by bud Light, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.679 Easy to drink, easy to enjoy, and brought to you 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.360 in part by your neighborhood, Ford Store Creator, Pittsburgh Community 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:21.840 Food Bank, First National Bank. 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I referenced them all the time. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:05.080 Yeah, Sando's quarterback tiers. 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.600 Sure, there's a lot of fantasy people that are you know, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.960 worth digging into even if you're not into fantasy. Yeah. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:11.920 And one of the guys that Matt and I really 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.000 like is Brandon Thorne, who of course is the offensive 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.880 line guru for establish the run, and we think he 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.200 is one of the guys who does the best analysis 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.080 if you're looking for offensive line analysis. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.160 So a lot of people ask me nowadays, you know, 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.240 and times have change, so my path won't help you now, 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.640 But how do I get into what you guys do 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.360 for a living, or how do I get into scouting? 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:36.800 And one thing I could definitely recommend is if you 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.800 can find a niche like Brandon does and just be 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.880 the best O line guy out there, best wide receiver guys. 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.000 Yeah that's you know, Harmon's the best receiver guy. So 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.000 if you were a corner back background and you can 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.440 teach the world about corners and why Certains better than Porter, 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.840 but Porter's better than Gonzalez and this is particular coverage, 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.440 might be a world for you out there. 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.440 You know, hey, people are always uh, people are always 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.520 looking for good content, especially around National Football League circles 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:05.640 where we just can't get enough of this stuff. Matt 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:09.000 Brandon Thorn has put out his annual offensive line rankings. 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.080 He ranks all thirty two units in the NFL into 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.920 five five different tiering systems. You know, Tier one obviously 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:20.120 being elite, Tier five being a fragile as he likes. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:26.360 Yeah, a huge or an overlapping observation. I don't think 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.480 the elites are quite as good as they have been 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:30.800 in previous years, you know, like the Lions when they'd 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.720 rag now and Kelcls and those guys. I think they 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.640 were better than the elites. But I also think the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.000 crappy ones are a little better than they have been too. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.200 You know, like the Browns are going to come in 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.600 low and they just totally revamped their O line, and 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.800 I thought they did a pretty good job with the 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.080 cards they were dealt. I mean, now, I mentioned this 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.080 the other day when we were talking about Steelers, oh line, 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:58.280 but really hit me hard reading through all these profiles 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.640 and all his write ups. Are none of these lines 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:06.439 look horrendous right now, but so many of them are 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.359 just one bad thing away from being a house of cards, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.040 you know, like the starting five. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.560 You lose that one, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.000 That very few of that Steeler depth that we talked 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.760 about that Heaven forbid. I know you'd even hate hearing this. 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:19.760 You lose feature. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.240 You know, don't put Hoffman in there. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:23.399 You'll survive. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:24.959 You can survive, you know what I mean, right? 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.879 You would? You can? You can not even prevent the 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.359 ship from sinking. You could maintain course and direction and 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.639 all that good stuff. Matt, how do you want to 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:34.720 do this? Do you want to start the top? Do 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:35.960 you want to start the back? Do you want to 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:36.800