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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, March tenth, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one hundred. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break Clive from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star, represented by Geico, and it is a good

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Speaker 1: day in cowboy Land because the Cowboys get their deal

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Speaker 1: done with Dak Prescott. We're gonna talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: that deal and what stood stands out as far as

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Speaker 1: the deal is concerned, what it means for the future

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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, and then also hopefully we'll see how

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Speaker 1: it goes. If we have a little time, we'll get

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Speaker 1: into some free agency talk. Free agency starts next week.

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Speaker 1: Next Wednesday, we'll be the first day of official free agency,

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Speaker 1: and so we'll talk a little bit about some of

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Speaker 1: the guys that are on the Cowboys current roster from

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Speaker 1: last season that are going to be free agents, and

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Speaker 1: whether these guys think the Cowboys should be resigning them

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Speaker 1: or making a push to resign them. How's everybody doing today? Great,

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Speaker 1: freaking wonderful, Derek. You know, I'm awesome. I watched I

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Speaker 1: watched the show that you guys did, the writers show

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Speaker 1: the night that the deal was done, And honestly, like

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Speaker 1: you would think that that was like days like brother,

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Speaker 1: I don't know somebody that like the way that you

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Speaker 1: were just so happy. It seemed like you were getting

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Speaker 1: some money out of this dude, like you were just

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Speaker 1: so he was excited and then he was like ready

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Speaker 1: to talk and then make sense it to Rob. Rob

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Speaker 1: Let's turn with you. David's just like no, and day

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Speaker 1: We're just sitting over there. He was like making faces

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Speaker 1: and like, hey, I mean, guys a little bit long

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Speaker 1: on that answer. If I remember too, I was like,

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Speaker 1: come on, Rob, which is not Rob? You? Rob wrote

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Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, and so I feel like I should Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have a problem with I just I had

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Speaker 1: that thought a few times over the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days where I was like, you're not related to Dak,

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Speaker 1: He's not your friend. I mean, like we have a

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Speaker 1: decent enough relationship, Like he ain't given me any of this,

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Speaker 1: Like what am I so freaking happy about? I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: It's just I think it's a combination of it's finally over.

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Speaker 1: It was two years in the making, we don't have

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Speaker 1: to debate about it anymore, and I think it, you know,

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Speaker 1: honestly I did. Like that night, it felt like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. It was just kind

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Speaker 1: of this cloud that kind of seemed like it was lifted.

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Speaker 1: And that kind of tells you when you work around here,

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Speaker 1: like the mood of whatever's happening in the building tends

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Speaker 1: happens with this kind of stuff that's really big. So

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Speaker 1: it was it was a relief once it was done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's one of those things that, if you know,

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Speaker 1: about it as much. But from a cowboy fans perspective,

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Speaker 1: if he wouldn't have signed. If they let him go,

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Speaker 1: if he goes to someone else, it would have been bad.

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Speaker 1: It would have been bad around here. It would have

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Speaker 1: been you know. Yeah, there's some people and some fans

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Speaker 1: sure that they got it done. Yeah, Nick, tell me

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Speaker 1: deal laid out for everybody, Like, what is what is

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Speaker 1: the term of the deal? I mean it averages it

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Speaker 1: creative about it is that it's really technically a six

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Speaker 1: And they're not going to save a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: They're protecting themselves because of the cap has been reduced.

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Speaker 1: They freed up all this cap space, they didn't use

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Speaker 1: Over the cap is really great, but they use different formulas,

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, they're I think they're going

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Speaker 1: which is a huge number no matter how you slice it.

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Speaker 1: Because the Joneses are on the competition committee, like they're

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Speaker 1: And all that reflects back to the amount that teams

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Speaker 1: I want to get to you. Tell me what you

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Speaker 1: think is the most interesting or the part of this

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Speaker 1: contract that stands out to you the most. Well, before

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott will probably, I would guess, Dak Prescott will

429
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: be somewhere in the range of six seventh eighth as

430
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: far as quarterbacks and what their average salary is, which

431
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: and I completely agree, And I don't want to paint

432
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: it as if the Cowboys are losers. I just what

433
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,679
Speaker 1: did we really accomplish other than the price going up?

434
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 1: Like he could already be there right now, like he

435
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: could be way down where you know, where all these

436
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 1: other guys are. Now, if we had just gotten this

437
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: out of the way, you know, you think about it though.

438
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 1: You go back to two years ago. The Cowboys offered

439
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: him several things. But I think what was being reported

440
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: was there was about a five year deal I think

441
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 1: worth thirty three million. I think that's where it was.

442
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere. So let's just say that was

443
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: the case after through five years. That takes us through

444
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 1: the nineteen, the twenty season, twenty two, and twenty three.

445
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 1: At the end of twenty three, that would have paid

446
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty five million dollars today, one sixty

447
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: five At where we stand right now, at the end

448
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, he's gonna get one fifty three.

449
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: And I've said this all along. You can't forget that

450
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: two million that he left on the table. I mean,

451
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,199
Speaker 1: he left thirty one million on the table. So I

452
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily a win for either side. I

453
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys, you know, they saved a little bit there. Now,

454
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: let's don't forget the deal isn't over at twenty twenty three.

455
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: He gets another forty million after that, so I think

456
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: it kind of washes itself out a little bit. I mean,

457
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Dak necessarily just dominated this whole thing,

458
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: because when they were offering him thirty three, he took

459
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: two million so he could eventually get to forty. And

460
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: it kind of evens itself out almost. Yeah, once you

461
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 1: figure out all the money he's gonna make on this contract,

462
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: black a white way to look at. Yeah, I was

463
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: gonna say, once you'd got all the money is going

464
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: to be in this contract. Though, once he gets to

465
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: the four years, I think he still comes out ahead, right, yes,

466
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 1: and sorry if he if let's just say, okay, let's

467
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: go back to that five year thirty three. The next

468
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: year wherever, if with the Cowboys or someone else, do

469
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: you think he'll make twenty eight million per year more

470
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: than that? Okay? So then no, the answer is no,

471
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: that it doesn't, you know what I mean. And it's

472
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: my math is terrible, but I'm just saying. I'm just

473
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: saying he was at one sixty five if you would

474
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 1: have done it that that way, he's at one fifty

475
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: three he did it this way, you know, So there's

476
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: twelve million fifty three for the whole deal. Yeah, one

477
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: fifty three. Yeah, I'm talking about it in twenty twenty three. Nine,

478
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: he's got another forty, he's got another forty. Talk about

479
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: can you do the whole deal? Though I'm not talking

480
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: about just ended a twenty three the whole deal? Then

481
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: give me Okay, that's one ninety three, that's three, and

482
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at one sixty five. That's what I'm saying.

483
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Give me that next year he's gonna make more than

484
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: twenty eight. I know I lost a lot of people myself. Definitely,

485
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty decent in mathmic You did you

486
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: lost me for suthing. But I think I think I'm

487
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: getting out, which is saying yeah, I mean again, I agree.

488
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: I actually agree. Though I agree that you know what

489
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: was accomplished here, I don't know. I think I think

490
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Dad getting hurt gave him a lot more money. I

491
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: really do. If Dad doesn't get hurt, this team is

492
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: gonna finish seven and nine, eight and eight, nine and seven.

493
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Maybe they make the playoffs, but they're not gonna see

494
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 1: how much they missed him. They saw Holy, yes, whatever

495
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: you want to say, holy that we need this guy.

496
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: We can't do without him. We can't score touchdown without him,

497
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: and even the guy we thought was going to help

498
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: us come in here and eventually did, but he wasn't

499
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: ready to play right then, and they weren't gonna let

500
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: that happen. I think he made more money because he

501
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: got hurt. That's an interesting thought. I mean, I get it,

502
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: and there's there's two ways. You know, there's two sides

503
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: to the argument. But I saw a line from Bob Sturm,

504
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: something he wrote recently, and I completely agree with it.

505
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: It's like, if if you have a quarterback who falls

506
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: in this age range of being in the prime of

507
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: his career, and he meets a certain threshold, just cut

508
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the check. You gotta do it. Just cut the check

509
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: because you're not going to beat him, like you're not

510
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: going to outleverage him if he fits that criteria. And

511
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: not everybody's going to agree that he that. Not everybody

512
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: loves Dak the way that I do. But like the

513
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: numbers say that they are what they are and you

514
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: can't beat him, and I don't know what you're supposed

515
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: to do about it. I do think you also have

516
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: to factor in though that market factors changed. When you

517
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: go back and say, well, two years ago, he could

518
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: have got this for cheaper. Well, yeah, but the problem

519
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: back then, that was before the Shawn Watson deal, that

520
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: was before the Patrick Mahomes deal. You had Russell Wilson

521
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: was averaging thirty five, where the Cowboys just gonna match

522
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: him up with Russell Wilson based upon what they had

523
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: seen at that time. Like there, it was hard to

524
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: make that argument that you should do that, but they were.

525
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: They were willing to give him thirty three, which would

526
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: have been above those two guys that were drafted ahead

527
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: of him, So I think they felt like that was

528
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: a fair deal. Sure, so once market factors changed, and

529
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: then now you got Mahomes, you got Watson, they're making

530
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: forty plus now, giving deal for a DAC of forty

531
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: million average year deal seems like it's plausible. Like he's

532
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: in there, he's in there. I think he and Watson

533
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: are similar type quarterbacks, right, so I think it makes

534
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: sense and you have to factor that in. I don't

535
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: think it's fair just to say, well, they could have

536
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: done this for cheaper, because the market market factors changed

537
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: quite a bit all those years. And I can't wait

538
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: to see what this looks like when he comes up again.

539
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be insane. Oh yeah, once those

540
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: TV deals kick in, Like those guys right now that

541
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: are still sitting out there waiting for deals, Lamar Jackson. Uh,

542
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: you know guys like that that are that next wave,

543
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: their numbers are just gonna be sick. I think. I mean,

544
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: like you're gonna it, qu Dak will quickly become you know,

545
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: push down that. I think he's gonna be in that

546
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: sixty eight range as far as quarterbacks are concerned, because

547
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna get paid to answer your question

548
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: a little more directly after that huge tangent that. I mean,

549
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: that's why it's such a big deal that they got

550
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: this done, especially with the rollover. I think I read

551
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: this morning Dak's cap percentage and that everybody freaks out

552
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: about the cap percentage, like nobody who's ever won a

553
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl counting for more than thirteen percent of the

554
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: cap until Tom Brady did it. And then well he's

555
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He can do whatever you want, like whatever, Okay,

556
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: it's never done until it's done. But he's only hitting

557
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: them for like ten or eleven percent of the cap

558
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: this year, and it would have been like twenty if

559
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: not for getting the deal done and having the rollover

560
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: from last year. So yeah, and again I fully expect

561
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: him to free up of some money over the next

562
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: week by restructuring some guys and who knows what they'll

563
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: do with it, But I mean they should have and

564
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: we know, you know, the compics are going to be

565
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: announced today by the way, so we will know. You know,

566
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna have ten or eleven draft picks, and they're

567
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: gonna have enough money to add talent and free agency,

568
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: like they should have plenty of opportunities to make this

569
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: roster better. And those two offensive tackles should come back.

570
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: And if they come that's the key. That's the key,

571
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: that that helps Dak be better. Even when you said,

572
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: even when you said Dak being hurt probably helped this

573
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: deal along. To me, I personally think this last year

574
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: was so much more about those two tackles. I think

575
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would have been a better quarterback but for

576
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't have two tackles he could

577
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: rely on. Yeah, and so I think that was huge.

578
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: So it actually probably helped Dak those two were out too,

579
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: because it made it look even worse without Dak, Like

580
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: Dak could actually function without those two tackles. He wasn't

581
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: maybe at his best, but he could at least function.

582
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Those other guys could not function without. I'm not saying

583
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 1: i've seen it but or they've been out there, but

584
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: I think those all three of those guys you just

585
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: mentioned have been out there working. Yeah, we're good. From

586
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: what we hear in the building, things are going good,

587
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: going well. Sorry and uh, Dave would correct me on

588
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: that things are going well there, So that that's that's definitely.

589
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Every year things are going well around this time, we

590
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: go no, no, no, no no, because if if we're

591
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: being real, okay, and I love these guys obviously, but

592
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: if we're being real, it's like every year we go

593
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: into training camp thinking that these guys are gonna be

594
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: absolutely fair, they're gonna be healthy, they're ready to go,

595
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: and then something pops up. So it's again, it's not

596
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: about being like the downer again or whatever. It's like

597
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: remembering every time you get excited about these guys, wait

598
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: a minute, just hold up, wait until we get into

599
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: training camp and we start the season. Because it happens

600
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: every year, and if it's not one guy, it's the other.

601
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: It's always someone in the in the old line. So

602
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: hopefully they can stay healthy and hopefully we can have

603
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: it at least towards the last month of the Samberg

604
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: going into the postseason. So but yeah, you have to

605
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: keep that in mind and don't get too excited. Prepare

606
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: yourself and be ready for what can happen there you're learning. Yeah,

607
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: and I think it's absolutely fair. Slap in the face

608
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: too many times. Yeah, him with those tackles, I think

609
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: it's absolutely fair, especially tiring at the age that he

610
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: is and the number of years that he's had consecutively

611
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: where he's had issues with his back, with his neck, Like,

612
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: I think there are things that right now you like, Yeah,

613
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: you want him to be progressing well. But I'm a

614
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: big believe if the Cowboys don't go into this season

615
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: with a reliable, I mean a really really reliable swing tackle,

616
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: they're doing themselves a disservice like that that you cannot

617
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: rely on the fact that those guys will be available

618
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: to you for an entire sixteen game season. And we

619
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: saw last year just how imperative it is that you

620
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: have yourself a really good swing tackle. When you can't

621
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: rely that, you're rely on the fact that your starters

622
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: are going to be there good day. I agree with

623
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: everything you just said, but I'm just I just want

624
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: to call my shot. I've been saying this and thinking

625
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: this for a long time, but I think I think

626
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fine. I would love it, I think,

627
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, make make an adjustment for

628
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: knocks and bumps that you pick up. But I bet

629
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: they'll both play thirteen or more games and and and

630
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: be awesome. I don't I just I don't know. I

631
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: feel this sense of optimism about it, which is weird

632
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 1: coming for me. I just hope if they're playing, if

633
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: they both played thirteen games, I hope that they're not

634
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: playing the same thirteen games and then those other four

635
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: or ones they're both out, Like that's either one of

636
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: them from one month of the season, right. I think

637
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: you want to have them and you want to be

638
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: by the way you're playing football. It is a contact sport.

639
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Guys are gonna get hurt. I get that. So if

640
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: you're missing a couple of games a year and you're

641
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: that caliber player, you just build that into the process

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Speaker 1: and note that's going to happen, and be prepared for

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Speaker 1: it and That's why I say you gotta make sure

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Speaker 1: they got a good swing tackle, just to be prepared

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Speaker 1: for I mean, Tyren Smith did not get hurt anymore.

646
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Speaker 1: In that Cleveland game that he played, he was hurt,

647
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Speaker 1: he needed surgery, he was gonna have it. He played anyway.

648
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Speaker 1: He played really well. Yeah, and the other side was

649
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: a mess. But I mean he played well and then

650
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: he went and had surgery and was out for the year.

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00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: That's a surgery he's needed for about two years. He's

652
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna have some issues with his back. That's just that's

653
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Speaker 1: a thing, and they're going to hope to manage it

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Speaker 1: the best they can, but they're hoping with the neck

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Speaker 1: that surgery should really help. And you tell me you're

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Speaker 1: I've been accustomed to seeing Tyren Smith, and I get

658
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Speaker 1: him thirteen games a year, sign me up. I'm taking that.

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00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 1: I'm good with that, um. But the fact is, like,

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Speaker 1: you better have a good swing tackle, because we saw

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Speaker 1: this year when you don't have him, you better have

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Speaker 1: a good replacement that can at least steady the ship

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Speaker 1: and not somebody. Maybe not the first round, but I

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Speaker 1: be the future there. He also could play guard. You

666
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Speaker 1: know what, if Tyran and Lyle play great and they're

667
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Speaker 1: healthy and everything's great, well maybe this guy that you

668
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Speaker 1: took in the second or third round can actually play

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Speaker 1: guard for you until you need to. That's happened before.

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Speaker 1: Flowzell Adams, who comes to mind, he played guard for

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Speaker 1: a little bit before. He was a really good tackle,

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Speaker 1: you know. And there's other guys that have done that too.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go and take our final break. When

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677
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little free agency now let's we've

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Speaker 1: talked about Dax deal and obviously the Cowboys were able

725
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Speaker 1: to get it to a point where it's not killing

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00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: their cap this year. UM So, my question first starting

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Speaker 1: off with you guys, is knowing what you know now

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Speaker 1: about the cap, knowing where the Cowboys are right now,

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Speaker 1: knowing the kinds of deals that are out there, as

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Speaker 1: far as the players that they have on the team

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Speaker 1: and some of the maneuvering that they can do, do

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00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys have enough space right now to

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Speaker 1: be able to be players in a free agency Nicholas,

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Speaker 1: are you No? I don't think they're going to be

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Speaker 1: players in free agency. I think they just don't have

736
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: it as much as other teams because you know, it's

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00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: not just that. I mean when you think about go

738
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: to every position and go do the Cowboys have a

739
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: top five, top seven or eight player in the NFL

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Speaker 1: at that position? Receiver yes, running back yes, guard, yes, Tackles.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's top five, but I mean

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Speaker 1: I think guard yeah, yeah, I mean guard yeah, guard

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00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: for sure. Defensive end yes, inside linebacker I think so

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Speaker 1: with Jalen what I think he's getting paid for it? Yeah? Yeah, Okay,

745
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: I thought you're meaning like play like they're playing. I'm

746
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: not talking about the player, Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. I

747
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: actually I took issue with the tackle thing too, because

748
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: I was like, if he's healthy, Tian's definitely yea. They

749
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: have contracts at all of these positions, tight end, it's

750
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: up there. They're paying a lot of guys. So they're

751
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: paying a lot of guys, and then you know they're

752
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: paying Dak now number three overall at quarterback. So I

753
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: just don't know if they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: be players from what I've heard and the players that

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00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: are like, oh, is he coming back for sure? And

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00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know. And this was like number

757
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: nine or eleven on the list of free agents. I'm like, well, dang,

758
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: who is coming back then? So I just don't know.

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: I bet that conversation might be different now that Dak

760
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: is under contract like that, I mean, when if they

761
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: they would be so screwed if they had to carry

762
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: him on the cap right now, Like that's part of

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Speaker 1: what makes it to go back to that, Like that's

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00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: part of what makes it exciting is they don't have

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00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: to really mess with the roster now because they would

766
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: have had to not like not just restructuring, but maybe

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00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: even cutting some guys, and now they don't have to,

768
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: which is great. So one of the things that's interesting

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Speaker 1: about this, and I'll pose this question to you, Amber,

770
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: is if you know, when you start maneuvering with these

771
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: guys contracts and basically giving them money now and spreading

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00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: out the years, that means you're now spreading out the years,

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: and that means that those guys have to stick around

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: a little longer for it to be palatable for you

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Speaker 1: to part ways with them. Are there certain contracts right

776
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: now that you would be like, absolutely, don't touch this contract.

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00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: Do not maneuver with this contract. And you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: the big ones that you throw out there are your

779
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: your zekes, your tanks, your your Jalens. Those are the

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: big contracts where you can make make up some difference

781
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: and create some room, but you also are linkedining out.

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: Is there a contract that you would be like, I'm

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Speaker 1: just I don't feel like that's a good idea to

784
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Speaker 1: lengthen that contract. I don't know. I'll let them to

785
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: answer that question, because you know, I don't know much

786
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: about these contracts or whatever. When it comes to the future,

787
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: and long term type of stuff. But what I'm curious

788
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: about when speaking about free agency and what's going to

789
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: happen here and these deals, it's I genuinely don't fully

790
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: know exactly how this coaching staff thinks. Like I know

791
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: Jerry and Stephen Jones, I know they will McLay and

792
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: all that we know kind of their mentality and what

793
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: they usually tend to do. But it makes me wonder

794
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Speaker 1: like right now, I really don't know what kind of

795
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: voice this new coaching staff really has and how do

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00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: they think and look and evaluate these players as far

797
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: as like who do they think is good or who

798
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: do they think is bad? You know, It's like we,

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Speaker 1: at least me, I don't really have a clear a

800
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: view or idea of what that really looks like, which

801
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: makes me really not know what could happen this free

802
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: agency and if we might start seeing something different from

803
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys as far as moves or maybe you know,

804
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily what we usually expect. So it's just more

805
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: about player evaluation from this coaching staff, especially obviously on

806
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: the defensive side. With Dan Quinn, I don't know, I

807
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: don't know this thing he can really develop all these

808
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: guys or does he think like some of these are

809
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: terrible and definitely need to get out of here and

810
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: need to bring someone else in. So it's just it's

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00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: very hard to really have a clear idea as of

812
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: right now. But yeah, I'll let them answer. The whole

813
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: contract aspect of things, Nick, you mentioned Zeke, is that

814
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: your is that your number one guy? You're like, I

815
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: don't mess with this contract. I don't. I don't really

816
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: want to do that. But more than I'm thinking about

817
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: it is is that you know, it's it's just like

818
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: football games where you just take one game out of time,

819
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: and yes, yes you do look ahead of the future

820
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you're taking the season for the

821
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: salary cap as it is, and so you just kind

822
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: of push it a little bit. And that's what got

823
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in trouble in the nineties. They just kept

824
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: pushing these deals and then to the point where they

825
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: weren't good enough. And you're sitting there like, Wow, this

826
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: guy's not a very good player and he's counting a

827
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Speaker 1: lot because you keep pushing the deal with Zeke, though

828
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Speaker 1: I don't really want to do that. I think you know,

829
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: he's not cutible right now or the next couple of years,

830
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to keep pushing him. We're already

831
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: starting to see a little bit of a a client here.

832
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: We don't know just yet if it's if it's just

833
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: because of the injuries in the line and all the

834
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: stuff around him, or is it just him. I mean,

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00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: it's it's starting to get in that close. I wouldn't

836
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Speaker 1: want to keep pushing it and adding years to this deal. Dave. Yeah,

837
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: Zeke and Zeke and Jalen are the ones. Just they're

838
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: they're long deals for guys that you're not convinced have

839
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: it right now, and so if you mess with that,

840
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: it messes with your ability to get out out of

841
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: it quickly. So yeah, those are those are the two.

842
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: But everybody else restructure away. Like, I'm not worried about

843
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Tank or Tyring. Honestly, Tyrant's deal is so ridiculously team

844
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: friendly at this point that even if you mess with it,

845
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: it's not gonna screw you over. So same thing with

846
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Speaker 1: Lyell M. I do wonder about Amari. I do like

847
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Speaker 1: as it's structured right now, like they're done with his

848
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: guarantees next year, and they could release him if they

849
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: wanted to. But I don't. I don't know. That doesn't

850
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: bother me a lot, so really, anybody but zeker Jalen

851
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: is fine with me, and I did. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: like whatever. They're not going to be players, that's not

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Speaker 1: conference coming up here at one thirty, so make sure

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Speaker 1: you stay tuned for that. You can check all of

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott signing his deal, we'll talk about that next week.

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Speaker 1: We'll also get into more free agency talk that begins

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Speaker 1: next Wednesday. That'll be the actual start a free agency

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Speaker 1: actually next Monday, as win teams can start the unofficial

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Speaker 1: tampering period. I guess, for lack of a better way

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Speaker 1: to put it where they can start actually talking to agents.

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Speaker 1: But signings will actually start next Wednesday, so we'll be

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Speaker 1: back next Winday. We'll talk a little bit about some

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