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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Zoe and Roger Berman, and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to Works for Us, where we talk to people

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Speaker 1: about what works for them in their relationships and of

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Speaker 1: course what doesn't. Okay, So on this show our focus

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Speaker 1: is always about relationships and love, but it's me we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with here, so sometimes a little bit of fashion

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Speaker 1: sneaks in, And today I'm here to tell you that

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Speaker 1: we have one of the most fashionable couples ever in

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Speaker 1: our presence, Mark Jacobs, and is absolutely gorgeous, smart, talented, brilliant,

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Speaker 1: sweetest husband Shark Deep Francescoat Mark Jacobs himself. He's well

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Speaker 1: known and hugely respected for his fashion label, Mark Jacobs.

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Speaker 1: He also has held positions as the creative director of

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Speaker 1: Louis Viton, the creative director of Diet Coke, which I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure I even knew, and the recipient of several

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Speaker 1: and like when I see several, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: like a hundred esteemed awards, including MTB's first Fashion Trailblazer

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Speaker 1: Award Women's Designer of the Year. I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: he's won these twenty times at the CFDA Fashion Awards.

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Speaker 1: Mark's husband Sharp French Husco is a former model. Look

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Speaker 1: at him, will You can't look at him, but I

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Speaker 1: am very obvious an owner of the luxury candle company

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Speaker 1: get Lit by shar which I'm confused where I don't

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Speaker 1: have any of these which offers to ductive sense like hype,

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Speaker 1: rich Lit and Bay. Okay, so we're so excited to

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Speaker 1: hear about this amazing romance, which I've been fortunate to

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Speaker 1: see some parts of. So welcome to works for us

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Speaker 1: both of you. We're so excited to have you here.

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Speaker 1: And I should say too very often on our podcast,

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Speaker 1: Roger and I have the good fortune of knowing our

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Speaker 1: guests for a really long time and having history. But

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Speaker 1: today I think the one thing will always say about

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Speaker 1: it that's so cool is that as well or as

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Speaker 1: long as we know somebody, we always learn something new

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Speaker 1: on the podcast when we talk to them, we get

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Speaker 1: and I can promise you that with Mark you find

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Speaker 1: out something new every time you talked to him, one

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Speaker 1: hundred pers So, all right, you guys, we like to

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Speaker 1: start kind of at the beginning, which I think the

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Speaker 1: most important thing here is how on earth did you meet?

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Speaker 1: Because I think you know, just to go from the

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Speaker 1: I was living in New York, but I just moved

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Speaker 1: started laughing about you know, we shared the same Amanda

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Speaker 1: Lapoor's song, and we had all these like same cultural

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Speaker 1: So yeah, like kitchy, little weird YouTube videos that nobody

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Speaker 1: Like I'd say something and he'd be like he'd he'd

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Speaker 1: all the time. And then I invited you to say

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Speaker 1: about to be the Saint Barts during the holiday and

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that's my place with Mark.

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Speaker 1: But wait a second, but this was so like typical,

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Speaker 1: that I was. I was supposed to go to Switzerland

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Speaker 1: every Christmas in New Year's and so I'd canceled that,

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Speaker 1: Mark Jacobs? Nothing in my play bake on baked some

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Speaker 1: met this person. But our relationship was platonic. There was

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna kiss, we're gonna kiss. We're kiss on

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. We ended and we ended up having

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Speaker 1: that first kiss on New Year's Eve to Prince performing

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Speaker 1: but it was at that engagement you had that flash. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: them through customs. By the way, that was my next question.

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Speaker 1: we If you remember, you remember all those New Year's

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Speaker 1: wasn't the it wasn't the sugar. What's Roger doing. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to wipe the screen. Oh my kids still

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Speaker 1: could have been Halloween residuals from us. Definitely. Um okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys, wait, this is such a good story. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so your first so you actually we're friends, You start

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Speaker 1: first kiss and hears so so far this is actual

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Speaker 1: storybook staff for real. Okay, So then when did you

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Speaker 1: and then we've been married almost two wow, almost two? No? Three? Yeah? No, no,

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Speaker 1: almost two? Yeah? This this we don't count the COVID year.

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Speaker 1: We don't. Oh my god, we especially count the COVID

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Speaker 1: two years April, we're November. But that's not almost two years.

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Speaker 1: So I did a lot of work, like with my shrink,

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Speaker 1: and I actually in being with Charlie and in writing

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Speaker 1: what that commitment meant, because in my mind it was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: which was like, this isn't about me, My beliefs and

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Speaker 1: how many nights we have gone down some YouTube rabbit

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Speaker 1: hole of like watching flash mobs or watching like stupid

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Speaker 1: or whatever. So I have I have had years of

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Speaker 1: sitting on a sofa with him watching like people cry

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Speaker 1: after their proposals. So I kind of I kind of

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Speaker 1: got like this sense that it was the type of

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Speaker 1: thing he would really enjoy. Always it always got a

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Speaker 1: reaction from him. I mean that's also a fun fact

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00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: about Mark two I think is that people because Mark's

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Speaker 1: very fancy. Obviously he likes really great things. But I

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Speaker 1: also so he's the ultimate Hilo. But the funniest thing

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Speaker 1: about Marks he also will like he loves pop culture

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Speaker 1: and he will totally like obsessed over Like I remember

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Speaker 1: when you figured out Instagram and it was like okay, wait, hey, okay, fine,

485
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Speaker 1: now I'm done and I'm obsessed with it, like yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, but but yes, Hilo, I totally agree with

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Speaker 1: you on that. But a grill and McDonald's. But but

488
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Speaker 1: also has like this real specific charm and if you've

489
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Speaker 1: ever traveled, he's so cute, you know, like he'll he'll

490
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Speaker 1: really go like out of his way to order something

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Speaker 1: like like huge, a huge pair of sunglasses, and then

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Speaker 1: he'll show up at the train station wearing like a

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Speaker 1: stupid hat with like one of those oversized pair of

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00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: sunglasses like if everybody loses their ship length or like

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: you know, or he'll show up in a bathroob like

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Speaker 1: the hotel bathroom over pajamas with like a stocking hat

497
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: and like you know, like and you're just like seriously

498
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Speaker 1: so like, you know, as pissed as you are that

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Speaker 1: your flight is delayed and the train is not leaving

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Speaker 1: in the making laugh you kind of you you're just

501
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: rolling around laughing, you know, because so he lightens everything up.

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00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: So I've got so much of that from him, like

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Speaker 1: how to do you need? How to make a nightmare

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00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: situation a really fun occasion five dollars? And also like

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00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I also feel like, I don't know, I just feel like, sure,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're light. You're like this light. I

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00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: don't know, there's something about you even just like you're

508
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: like this ray of happiness. I don't know. Yeah, I

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00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: try to be I remember, do you remember when when

510
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: we match are? I had to Yes, I had to

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Speaker 1: introduce myself to you, because for years now I've been

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00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: going the same parts, carrying all these stories like, oh

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Speaker 1: remember when we were here with Rachel and Rachel Rachel that,

514
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: and so I obviously knew who you were from before,

515
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: and then I knew that I just heard all these

516
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: stories about you. I'm like, I feel like I know her.

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Speaker 1: And then we were leaving some party at Coachella Sorr,

518
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Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, and you look busy

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00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: and somebody to come up to you or something, and

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00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: it was you. I don't know. You didn't dismiss them,

521
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: but it was just like, not the right time to

522
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: talk to you. Coachella is not where I shine. I

523
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: need to go in and I need to go out

524
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. But I just I felt just

525
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: so compelled to go up and introduce myself. You didn't,

526
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: I would have killed you. I would have killed you.

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00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: And it was so funny because I went up and

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00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: I was like, Rachel, like, I'm so sorry to interrupt you,

529
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: but I just feel like I didn't even produced myself

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: to you, and and you're just like like I was surprised.

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00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: You amused me as long as you know you music conversation.

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00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: You entertained the conversation. You're so good. But I was like,

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00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm Mark Mark's fiance and your eyes just lit up

534
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: there just like gave me the biggest hug, and it

535
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: was just I was like, I was dead. You were

536
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: like what did they say? You were like an oasis

537
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: in the desert. You were like literally, I was like,

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00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: get me out of this insanity. And then you're like

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00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: the works out there's like, oh god, I was so

540
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: excited and I was so excited that I was leaving.

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00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to like grab you and take you with

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Speaker 1: me into the You're so sweet. Um, well, I do

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00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: want you guys to me here. But I just one

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00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: little side note. I feel like you're like a mama's boy,

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00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: are you kind of Yeah, definitely you are. I'm going

546
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: to talk to my mom all the time, like every day.

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00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like you were like, I can't go

548
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 1: see him without bringing something like I hope my boys

549
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: go on with that. I think it's a sweet thing.

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00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a boy with mom thing. It's funny.

551
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: My all my dad's side of the families all in Switzerland,

552
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: and they're all very stoic and very except my grandma's

553
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: very warm. But and she taught me a lot of

554
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, my etiquette and a lot of things like that.

555
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: But my mom, who's not my biological mom, she's the

556
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: mom who raised me. She's from the South, and she

557
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: was very like, you never show up anywhere without something

558
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah. She sends us funny Christmas yeah, and

559
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: every time she comes she brings something like all the

560
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: time for us. And I mean she's very mom like.

561
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: And I've definitely got those things from her. So are

562
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: you guys still like kind of in the honeymoon phase?

563
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: I feel like, considering it's only what two years, we

564
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: just decided a year and a half quite two years apparently,

565
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know if we ever were

566
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: in a honeymoon phase. I think we're just like very

567
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: close and just like we're always very grateful to have

568
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: each other in our lives, and you know, I always,

569
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, we both practiced gratitude like on a daily basis.

570
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we're in the pandemic life hard, easier, closer, challenging,

571
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: were you like? Well for us, Luckily, the first four

572
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Speaker 1: months I was stuck in La I was at the

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Speaker 1: Mercy and he was at a Mercy again just a

574
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Speaker 1: little We had just sold our town house, so we

575
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: had we had planned to move into the Mercer until

576
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: we found new apartment which we could buy right and

577
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: do right, living right. So we were already planning to

578
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: move into the Mercer. That was before we knew COVID

579
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: would right, you know, happen. So um, Charlie had planned

580
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: a trip to La I was moving into the Mercer,

581
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: and then it got so serious with the lockdown that

582
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: I said to him, like, don't come back because we

583
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: can't stay in the same room and it's really unsafe

584
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: for you to fly and all this other stuff. So

585
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 1: we just made a decision that as long as we

586
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: were in lockdown, I would have my suite at the mercer,

587
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, the onetime right, So so I had that.

588
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I had, well, I had the entire floor. Because there

589
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: was only three tenants at the mercer during the whole lockdown.

590
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: I was one of them. Tony SCHAFFRASI was the other God.

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: But he Charlie has an apartment in La so he

592
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: was staying in his apartment in La got it. I

593
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: was at the mercer, and we just made the agreement,

594
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: like when it's safe and you can fly back, we

595
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 1: can be together. Fine, but not until that. Yeah, And

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00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: I think we always joke, but if we were stuck

597
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: in then he was so paranoided when we COVID first happened.

598
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean I was scared, but in La, you know,

599
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I was still able to go on hikes, like still

600
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of like get outside and do things. Yeah, whereas

601
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Soho was a war zone. Yeah, like I mean it

602
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: was crazy, yeah. Yeah, And so he didn't even leave

603
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: the hotel room once, and I probably couldn't have either.

604
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: And I think we I didn't leave would have killed

605
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: each other four months. I mean I didn't even go

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: down to the lobby. At least you have that terrorist. Yeah,

607
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: so I had the terrorist, but I also had the

608
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: adjoining room. Yeah, the one I used to stay. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

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00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: so I had knocked at those rooms that I was

610
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: just I was just basically spending all day doing a look,

611
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: photographing it in the mirror, and then posting it on Instagram.

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00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Were some really good lucks, by the way, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: only you know, So that was funny. I had like

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00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: two it's full of clothes for the whole time, and

615
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: everyone's like, where are you getting all these clothes from?

616
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: At the mercer? And I was like, see, that's how

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00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: I packed. I mean, I got a beaded coats when

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00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: I go to the mercer for four weeks, you know.

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Speaker 1: But we'd also packed to live in the mercer for

620
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: like a couple of months, so we had like a

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00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: couple of months worth of clothes. Still, yeah, we had

622
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: a couple of months of clothes, but all of mine

623
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: happened to be hand embroidered product, you know, like and

624
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: the heel. Well everybody, well, everybody is talking about like

625
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: zoom life and sweatpants. I'm like, in like tailored heat

626
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: and packets or leather jacket I did. I kept showing

627
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: them to Roger during COVID. I was like, was my

628
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: love just goes deeperm? I was like, where is he going?

629
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: Pairs like eight colors of the same identical rick Owens

630
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: platform boots. Oh, I know that's that's two suitcases worth

631
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: of rick Owens boots. So like you know how like

632
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: we roll raised, I'm aware of it because I know

633
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: how she rolls. Yes, well, I do think that we

634
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: are going to have to make a trip for the

635
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: four of us to do something amazing. Yes, please, it

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Speaker 1: not on any paper or anything, but just from my head.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys talk about kids or family? And there's

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Speaker 1: you know, that's not nice for a kid. Yeah, to me, no,

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Speaker 1: know it's not a handbag. No, no, it's not like

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676
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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why. By the way, Mark, that's

677
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Speaker 1: why we did it so late. Yeah, we did it late.

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Speaker 1: You know, we waited eighteen years just saying um, okay,

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00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: so almost there, you guys do Okay, what's your absolute

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683
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: favorite place to go together? Definitely not there yet, but

684
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: it will be, I think when it's finished. Now it

685
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Speaker 1: to the conflict. Like we disagree on a lot of

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738
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Speaker 1: we're going to go to or not other situations, but

739
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741
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742
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743
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Speaker 1: the of the choices and all that stuff. So we

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746
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748
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Speaker 1: And just because I don't like it now doesn't mean

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00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: I won't grow to appreciate it and like it. You know.

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00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like that sometimes, which happens with a

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00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: lot of things, you know, sometimes that's but the house

757
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: has become a show. I should show you guys. Our

758
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: living room is just like the most insane amount of

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00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: like mood boards, fabrics, name, it's the whole. But you're

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Speaker 1: documenting that? Are you documenting all that? Because that's like,

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00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: oh you should because you can look back on that

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Speaker 1: and it's like somebody from HBO asked me if we

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Speaker 1: wanted to do something. No, it's just the way I'd

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Speaker 1: you know, you put up colors and swatches and rooms

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00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,839
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Speaker 1: out like each board represents the bar room, the foyer,

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Speaker 1: the dining room, the kitchen, the chef's kitchen, the maid's room.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I literally everything I just got. Those

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Speaker 1: mood boards literally are like works of art. I am.

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Speaker 1: I'll send you, I'll send you. Please say all that

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Speaker 1: Now we won't. We just want to get in there anyway.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how we got off on that, but

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Speaker 1: it's fine. I don't follow. I don't follow any questions. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's your favorite place to go in the world. What's

778
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: your favorite place? What's our favorite place? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think anywhere we go we have so much. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm Monzoe done in Greece, not the rachel That's where

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Speaker 1: I want to go. You just went there and your yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean I feel like you literally just

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Speaker 1: went right. Yeah. We were there just a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I want to go must incredible place on Earth. We've

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Speaker 1: been four times, yeah, yeah, three three. I mean it's

786
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Speaker 1: name I probably should go right well, you know, it's

787
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Speaker 1: bart we were really disenchanted, like we really remember that,

789
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Speaker 1: changed so much, and I learn all the people that

791
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792
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Speaker 1: of felt like we were staying home and then we

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Speaker 1: would go out to the same restaurant for lunch, the

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Speaker 1: same restaurant for dinner, which was fine, but it was

795
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: like slowly each of those restaurants had less and less

796
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: of the energy that we used to have. Ye and

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Speaker 1: then the huge Dangay epidemic like yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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799
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800
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Speaker 1: we were really enjoying was a place where we could

801
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Speaker 1: be alone, right like with each other. We discovered the Amonzoe,

802
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: where we had this huge villa. They upgraded us to

803
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Speaker 1: this crazy huge villa, and the service was amazing, the

804
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: food was amazing, the weather was perfect every day else

805
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Speaker 1: and if you're going to stay home and not go out,

806
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Speaker 1: like if there's no life outside of your little area,

807
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Speaker 1: then your little area needs to be it was. So

808
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: we started like going there like repeatedly. Yeah, that's such

809
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Speaker 1: a special place. But we have fun everywhere we go.

810
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Speaker 1: Cut I want to hol you guys through the screen

811
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Speaker 1: so bad, um I do? I really do? Okay, So

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Speaker 1: aside from the um the renovation, are there any other

813
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: uh you know, point of conflict? What are the things

814
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: you fight about most? It's just basically the house is

815
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: really creatives there. Wait, No, there is yes, most honest person,

816
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say it's a fight. It's

817
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: kind of there. If I'm if I've come if I

818
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Speaker 1: come home in a bad mood, certain things bother me

819
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Speaker 1: that I've come to accept on days that I'm in

820
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: a good mood. Charlie, I am meticulous. I am meticulous.

821
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Speaker 1: All my clothes are folded, All of my clothes are stacked,

822
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: All of my shoes are in the closet facing the

823
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: same direction, equal distant from each other. You know, it's

824
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: like military precision. That is not the case in like

825
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: Charlie's area. Whatever Charlie is looks like the room has exploded.

826
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, everybody teases him, Everybody laughs.

827
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Like when we go away, his stuff is all over

828
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: the house by the pool, hanging like all over it

829
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: just looks like a bomb went off and like Charlie's

830
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: ship flew everywhere. And then like maybe I was a

831
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: little foreshadowing when he came down and met you in

832
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Saint Barts with the folded that was nothing. So that

833
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: was hit on his best behavior, meeting you for the

834
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: first time. So every time we go somewhere, it's like

835
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Speaker 1: a bomb went off and all of Charlie's ship flew everywhere.

836
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like how it is at home.

837
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there there are moments where he will pretend

838
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: to straighten things out, which basically means hide them literally amazing.

839
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: So so we don't really fight, Like I don't fight

840
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: over it, but when I know it's like bicker, it's

841
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's not no no, no, no, I don't

842
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: even I mean, I I basically ignore it, use it

843
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: as an anecdote, and I there's a lot of sarcasm

844
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: in my voice, you know, this hidden anger about it.

845
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: But um, but you know I live with it. We

846
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: are who we are, and we accept each other for

847
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: who we are. Yeah, you kind of have to at

848
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: some point, you really have to. At some point. There's

849
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: things about him that make me mental and I have

850
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: to just like, I mean, he's been Halloween weekend going

851
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: to grateful dead shows. Like what am I going to do?

852
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: It is you're a deadheaded obvious I mean this is

853
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: show number one hundred and fifty. God only knows. Yeah, yeah,

854
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: so you know these are the things. But I think

855
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: what I want to really understand from you guys is,

856
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: if you had to break it down, what is your secret, sauce,

857
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: what's your magic? Why do you work? Really? No, why

858
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: do you work? Like? Meaning like I've known Mark forever?

859
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: I mean sure you like, I mean, listen, I think

860
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: you're magical, like i'd marry you. But like, but but

861
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: Mark's a tough nut to crack, you know, I mean

862
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: he is, and he fell hard for you. And I

863
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: think you guys have this. The wedding was so magical,

864
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: your vows were so magical. Everything about it was magical.

865
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: And I think I think the most important thing that

866
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: our listeners take away from each episode is like what

867
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: makes it work for you? If you had to break

868
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: it down, like, what's the thing, what's the magic, what's

869
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: the secret sauce? I think just being able to accept

870
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: each other, you know, and our flaws. I think is huge.

871
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: And you know, I know you guys talk about therapy.

872
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: I listen to a few of your podcasts, and you

873
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: know you talk heavily about therapy and how important it is.

874
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I really, I really think it is

875
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: like having somebody to translate. You know, almost for you

876
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: is unbiased. A break, Yeah, exactly, And like so, one

877
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: conflict does happen, you're able to deal with it. And

878
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: you know you've said before in your podcast how it's

879
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: important to I mean, you wouldn't want to be with

880
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: somebody just like you. You know, you never dribe yourself crazy, yes,

881
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: And so you know we are very different in some senses,

882
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: but we you know, we have so much love for

883
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: each other. And I think, I don't know, we just

884
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: clearly are alike at the core. I mean that's a

885
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: thing like so too. Yeah, Lake, Roger and I always

886
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: say we approach things differently. We are Our reaction to

887
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: things are so different, to two different things, but at

888
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: the core we really have the exact same, like moral compass.

889
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: We believe in in raising our kids a certain way.

890
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: We don't fight about the things that really matter. But

891
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: ultimately for us, it's that we root for each other

892
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: and I think you guys, what I can see is

893
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: that you really both want each other to win and succeed,

894
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: and you're not competing with one another, because I think

895
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: not at all. I think I think I think the

896
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: demise of a lot of couples is that, especially here

897
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, in this industry, they're just not rooting for

898
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: each other. And I see, especially with gay couples too,

899
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: like there's something about a man with a man like

900
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: they they tend to compete a lot. Yes, we definitely

901
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: don't do that. I really think that, you know where

902
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: I think he's like the ying to my yang, and yeah,

903
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: I hope vice versa. And you know, we are very different,

904
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: but it is complimenting and we do want the best

905
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: for each other, which is good. Would you agree, Mark,

906
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: What do you think of secret? Yes, dear, No, Well

907
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: that's I had a lawyer, a very old man lawyer

908
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: who was really wise and lived a very long time

909
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 1: and was married to his wife for like eighty seven

910
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: years or something until the day she died. Yeah, and

911
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: he outlived her. And so UM said, what was the

912
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: secret to your marriage? And he just said, yes, dear, Yes,

913
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: happy wife, happy life. So true. Sure, yes, dear alright, rage,

914
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: I think we should move on with I guess all right,

915
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: get to the last three questions our favorite game. It's

916
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: a little newly wettish because in the game, like a

917
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 1: little bit like shar answers for you, like what would

918
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: you go to jail for? Podcast? What would Mark get

919
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: arrested for? Shark? Um? It's funny because I knew that question.

920
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: I had a feeling that question is coming, but I

921
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: hadn't released my favorite Mark would probably go to jail

922
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: for um. Oh my god, I don't know, suching boy.

923
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: I think smoking somewhere he should he doesn't smoke, I know,

924
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: I know, probably setting off the fire alarm. Just yeah,

925
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: probably something where it involved him not being aware of

926
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: his surroundings and like like we were at an airport

927
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: in East Hampton and he blew a huge cloud writing

928
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: or smoke alarm and like said, like the whole airport

929
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: alarm system like fire truck. Yeah it really happened. Yeah,

930
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: of course that would happen. I no, I know that really? Okay,

931
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: what would char get arrested for? Mark? Almost the same thing.

932
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: So we had a similar story. So we had just

933
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: spent we were like, um, we were preparing our Halloween

934
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: costumes for when we were like the two older versions

935
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: of ourselves, like a few years ago, and Charlie had

936
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: bottled this shit. Like again, he's like got an Amazon addiction,

937
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: so he's got a serious okay everything about She wanted

938
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: to manifest in a box in front of her within

939
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: four hours, and it does. It's a crazy chart chart

940
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: like but like some fog machine or something. And we

941
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: had come home. I wanted to attention to your wheel

942
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: seven years, so so seven hours of prosthetics. Then we

943
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 1: go out to a party for one hour, then three

944
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: hours to remove the prosthetics from him. Then he goes

945
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: down to the basement decides to start screwing around, and

946
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: two in the morning with this fog machine, all the

947
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: alarms go off. Police arrive at our house, fire trucks

948
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: arrive at our house. And this is not the only

949
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: time that's happened. So he at the new house, at

950
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: the house we're building restoring. He also let me, let

951
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: me set the mood. So it was after a show.

952
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: He's stressed out, he hadn't slept in a few days.

953
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: So we go to the new house and like, oh

954
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: it's perfect. We have a fireplace, a huge fireplace in

955
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: a room. I'm gonna light a fire to be a romantic,

956
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: could be able to relax and just chill, and it

957
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: will be like wind. I didn't know that had to

958
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: clean that the chimney. They hadn't cleaned the flume or whatever,

959
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 1: and so I let this like fire so we could

960
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: chill it and wind. All of a sudden, the whole

961
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: house starts filling up with smoke. The alarms. I mean

962
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: it was it was like three in the morning. Yeah,

963
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: and all these fire trucks just showed up and it

964
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: was not It was anything but relaxing and romantic and

965
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, chill. So I think we we would both

966
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: go to jail for setting off an alarm. I think

967
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: fire related smoke I rotech Next, all right, so this

968
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: next question is also very well, I'm going to go

969
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: to this one because that's just very of old court.

970
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: I would say, because they are redoing the Yeah, this

971
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: is actually great one. He's the furniture, would be yes, God, sure, crazy.

972
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: Nobody listens to this podcast, like listen, what is going on?

973
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: Are you the only a lot of listeners? You need

974
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: some new questions? What would you be Mark? What would

975
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: Mark bar Okay, what would would piece of furniture would

976
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Mark be? He'd probably be uh Jean Michel, Frank Mica table, yes, okay,

977
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: And I know what would be a giant bean bag chair?

978
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say, like a lazy

979
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: boy or a bean bag chair. Yeah, we got this

980
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: right to We're in a rental house now, and I

981
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: was like, I'm buying I'm buying a lot of sack

982
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: those you know, like four Yeah, of course. I like.

983
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: He's like, it's not coming to the new house. I'm like,

984
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't care. We'll have it for the rental. And

985
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: it's awesome and the dogs love it. By the way,

986
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: my kids want one of those. The most amazing thing

987
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: ever to think up a lot of room. I love

988
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: you guys so much. Okay, um, so Mark is now

989
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: going to be cast on screen his biography. Who's playing him?

990
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Good question? Yeah that is one. Marks like, I know

991
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: who I want to play me? Yeah? Mark, your hair

992
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: looks great. Mark like your hair like this? But yeah,

993
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I really like it so handsome, like the whole thing.

994
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: It's good. I'm loving this looks Who thought you were somebody?

995
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, but he's super old. Now who is he

996
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: ring star? Somebody you'll play ringo star, not the other

997
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: way around. What's going on? That mistook me for Ringo

998
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: star when we were sitting in the air. Take a

999
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: picture of you. You'll just like Ringo Star. Blame me?

1000
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, of course you do. Okay, who's

1001
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: playing shar uh? I'm gonna say this just to annoy him.

1002
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: Um tannem cha chanting yes, because everybody always mistakes him

1003
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: for him? Or you used to you not so much anymore.

1004
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: But oh you're both gorgeous. Just saying well, I love

1005
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys. So I could literally talk to you guys

1006
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: for six more hours. But can you just come to

1007
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: LA already? Yeah? Okay, so please char You're the best

1008
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: at communication, so just text me. We're going to host

1009
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: a beautiful dinner for you at our house. Please invite

1010
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: some people. I can't wait to meet your kids. Your kids, God,

1011
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: they will be d if you know you guys are

1012
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 1: you guys are in trouble and coming like a few years.

1013
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: You guys are in some major trouble. The Skyler's and aries,

1014
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: which means Mark's going to have to uh I have

1015
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: some aries practice here. Yeah, aries are very special. Breach

1016
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: as also holy our birthday is like three days apart. Yeah,

1017
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, we did the wedding because that was

1018
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: the other thing is that the King of the surprise birthday,

1019
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: Like we won't even go there because it's another hour

1020
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: of conversation. But he loves to outdo each year. He

1021
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: would outdo himself with like a surprise situation for birthday

1022
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: or for Christmas. And so when we figured out the

1023
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: wedding day, we're like, you know what, instead of having

1024
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: like your birthday celebration, my birthday celebration, let's make it

1025
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: the wedding celebration in the middle. Yeah, so we just

1026
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: celebrate us. So that way, from the third through the

1027
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: ninth we could just like stay up in party. I

1028
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: don't really do that, yeah, stand party. No. Now we're

1029
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: sleeping right now. It's like, oh my god, the news

1030
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: is amazing. Night, going to sleep. Well. We love you

1031
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: guys so much, you both. Oh my god, this is

1032
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: so fun. I love you guys. Um get through the house.

1033
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: We're excited to see it, so but we'll see you

1034
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: here first. So I love you, guys. Love you guys.

1035
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: I love you. That was really one of my absolute

1036
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: favorites I mean, well, it's just good to get to

1037
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: speak to them for a while. They're just the cutest

1038
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: and like, I feel like Shars like this like kind

1039
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: of ray of sunshine and light that came into Mark's

1040
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: life and I think he was like craving that And

1041
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: can you imagine doing a house with Mark? No, but

1042
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what I would do. This is where Shar's missing. Yeah,

1043
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: I think Shar should just like to render. Yes, I

1044
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: don't even doing I kind of wanted to say that,

1045
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to take sides. Right, It's like Shar,

1046
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: like you really you're going to say, like, it's not

1047
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: that it isn't the right pattern. It's not even that.

1048
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I think that Mark wants to be inclusive. Mark hasty

1049
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: yield on things for Shar, and he does in the

1050
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: Chipotle and things like that. But I also think creatively,

1051
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: just because you're with a creative person, it's like you

1052
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: you don't trust me for everything. You don't let me

1053
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: make every creaty. There's certain things you don't want to

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00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: deal with, and you'll be like you pick, you decide,

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: d da dada dah. It seems like Shar's will possibly

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: more practical in some things my gut tells me that,

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00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: Like he's like, Mark, why we can't get that couch,

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00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: Like no one's gonna be able to sit on it?

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00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: And he's like, but it looks stunning or like something

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: like that, Like that's my guest. You're a little like that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Rachel, it won't even fit right, You're like, no,

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Speaker 1: it will. Well, I'm like Mark, and I are not

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00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: like Rachel. I will take the ruler out and show

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00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: you and then you will believe me. Right. But I

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00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: think Mark is he's just genius on another level. So

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Speaker 1: for me, I would just punt it and be like

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00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: for me, i'd actually be happy for him to just

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Speaker 1: do it and like move on. But listen, I do

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Speaker 1: get it. And I also think like Shar has a

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: great taste too, so he's probably like, hey, I want

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00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: a little of this and put a little. I think

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Speaker 1: Shars you in this relationship, it would appears. Let's what

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Speaker 1: I think is really cool about it is you know

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Speaker 1: it started with the baking of the cookies. Judging from

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Speaker 1: the fact that um, they were deciding which ring Shar

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Speaker 1: had or where the other one was. So my guess

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00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: is they probably spoiled each other materialistically, but it would

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Speaker 1: appear that spoiling each other, like with their time, yes,

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00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: and like thinking about like, you know, it's not an

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: easy thing to do a flash mob right now. Um,

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to plan a surprise party

1082
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: every year and try out to yourself. So it would

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00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: appear that, you know, like they're in a great place.

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00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: You know, they're just really trying to show each other, um,

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Speaker 1: their appreciation of each other. So I couldn't see it's

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: nice to see Mark so married, Yeah, happy, and he

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00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: looks so handsome. Um, it's like their suburban house. I know,

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Speaker 1: I really love it. But also I forgot to mention

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00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: because I was so focused on them as a couple

1090
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: for our listeners. The very first fashion show I went

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01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: to and was not invited to and crushed was Mark

1092
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: show a very very long time ago during the grunge

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01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: period in the nineties. And I didn't get kicked out,

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: which was good news, but it was one of the

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: most exciting moments of my life, in one of the

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: moments that I realized that he was one of the

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01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: most true creative geniuses of our time and his mind,

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: once you actually witness it is really like nothing else

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01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: I've seen. It's just the next level because I think

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01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: there's creative talented people and then there's like the actual

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: creative genius, which Mark actually is. And he's also incredibly brilliant,

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Speaker 1: and that's what I mean. He's just very well stoke, yes, yes,

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01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: and he's also very silly, which is funny about like

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01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: pop culture and stuff like that. But anyway, I'm so happy.

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Speaker 1: I love this episode. I love shar I love Mark,

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Speaker 1: and I have to tell you like I actually learned

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01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: from that, and I think every couple of a relationship

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01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: we interview, I keep taking things away from which I

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01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: think is great. Okay, So if you liked what you

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1114
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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,280
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01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,920
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01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,080
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Speaker 1: our Instagram at atworks dot for dot us. Okay, before

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Speaker 1: we leave you, we're gonna give this week's highlight and

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01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: low light. My high is that we had a really

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Speaker 1: fun Halloween with our kids, and honestly, for as exhausting

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Speaker 1: as Halloween as for parents, after not having it last

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01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: year and realizing how deeply important it is for kids

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01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: to have Halloween, they just live for it. It's like

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: their favorite day. There. Also, did someone say yesterday, which

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01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: was interesting, is like it's truly a great American holiday.

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: It is, And it's like, yeah, I Coul's the only

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: place for our friends in London. We're like, we don't

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01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: even it's not even a holiday. Yeah, So I think

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Speaker 1: it's just something that really it's not about religion. It's

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01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: just about it's just about being silly and being pure

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01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,439
Speaker 1: and like you know, adults get dressed up with their kids.

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01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: It's just a very very like family friendly holiday. So

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: I will say, before we had kids, Roger and I

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01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: stay at home on Halloween almost always unless there was

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01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: like a close friend having a party because I have

1144
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: a thing with mass I don't like not seeing people's faces.

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: But I would say that it really reminded me last

1146
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: night kind of really just how important it is for

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: kids to do that holiday and how fun it is

1148
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: for them, and like trading candy. I mean, it was

1149
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: just they were so happy and lost it. Kai has

1150
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: lost his very first tooth, very late, and it was

1151
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: a huge day. He said it might have been the

1152
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: best day of his life. I think he said it

1153
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: was the best day of his life. He lost his

1154
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: tooth on Halloween and he had the best Halloween. It

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01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: was like they kept telling us how much fun they had. Yep,

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01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: and he sang of kids karaoke, I swear to it,

1157
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: grabbed them and sang a million dreams in front of

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Speaker 1: a whole room of people that he didn't know. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. A low light is it's a month

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01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: long holiday. I'm so tired, and um I'm not complaining,

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Speaker 1: but I'm happy that there's a year between. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a big low this week. Honestly, Yeah,

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01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm not really that low this week either, which I

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: think is good. My highlight for sure, though, was the

1165
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: fact that I got to see Dead and Coe the

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01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl twice twice. My low light is that I

1167
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: didn't see it the third night, Halloween night, but it

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: was a highlight being able to spend the night with

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01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: my beautiful children or treating so actually, oh my wife,

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: I forgot about her. But anyway, for those of you

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01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: who don't know, I'm a huge dadhead, and I will

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: say that this weekend, I have not seen shows like

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01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: this in at least a decade. I've sadly just figured out.

1174
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: I've been going to shows for over thirty years. I

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01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: am old. It's so so crazy. But anyone out there, John,

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01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: John Mayer and Jeff Comedian, I mean, all these guys

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01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: are just so good. So anyway, that's my highlight. I'm

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: still smiling. And I did my personal record for number

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: of steps in his own six thousand steps on Saturday night.

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Speaker 1: That's how much I danced. So that's my highlight. Love,

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Speaker 1: and he's here to talk about it. He's just so

1182
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: you know. He's also thoroughgunning. Yeah, I just put some

1183
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: CDD bomb on it because I'm so much pain. And

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01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what my other highlight is what I love

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Speaker 1: my wife. Oh, that's OK. And that's why it