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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature a production of Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your Girls of Many Parasites. Katie Gee, it's actually Katie Golden.

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Speaker 1: I studied psychology and Evo butionary biologic and today on

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Speaker 1: the show, it's a Halloween episode. Hags, slime Frogs, and

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Speaker 1: the Boogie Woogies who can kill you with a touch?

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Speaker 1: Discover this more as we answer the angel question can

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Speaker 1: we use ectoplasm as a substitute for egg whites and baking?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is my friend, co host of a

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Speaker 1: plethora of podcasts on the game Fully Unemployed Network, including

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Speaker 1: Hypecast and we just watched with Tom and Dave, also

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Speaker 1: a writer with me on Sumwhere News. Dave, Welcome, Hi,

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Speaker 1: what's my Spooky day? Bell has an obvious row. Yeah, Hell,

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Speaker 1: Dave Hell Bell, Yeah, it's not it's it's David David

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Speaker 1: damn it. I would just say David Hell, but then

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Speaker 1: I said David Bell, David Bell parentheses Hell. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not great. It's not great. Well, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: me on. Yeah, no, this is a very spooky episode.

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Speaker 1: It is Halloween. At least it should be Halloween. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: when you're listening to this, um so you know, Happy

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Speaker 1: Halloween everyone. Hope you're eating a lot of candy, dressing

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Speaker 1: up as ghouls, um, you know, having a good time.

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Speaker 1: We're bright, reflective clothing, watch out for kitty kats, you

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Speaker 1: know all those things. Um, yeah, you're the proto. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be nice to ghosts, to like a lot of them.

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Speaker 1: I think are probably gonna be extra sensitive because everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: a ghost, and they're like, yeah, okay, that's kind of mean.

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Speaker 1: If you hear if you hear like the sounds of

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Speaker 1: like groaning coming from like a graveyard, Um, honestly, go

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Speaker 1: check it out because that person probably needs help, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't just go a ghost and run like that person

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Speaker 1: probably needs your help. Yeah, ghosts typically don't make noise there,

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Speaker 1: you know. And but human beings who are like felt

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Speaker 1: like tried to tour a graveyard and then fell into

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Speaker 1: a hole and broke their ankle, they do make sounds.

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Speaker 1: So check that out. Um yeah, just you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: enjoy enjoy Halloween. You know, check your candy for like

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Speaker 1: hidden vegetables and throw those out. Yeah. I saw a

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Speaker 1: look like fair feraro rochet Uh, candy, and that's like

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Speaker 1: the worst. That's so mean. Um, I love that candy.

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Speaker 1: If I got that, I would break out into tears

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Speaker 1: and never trust another human again. I would break out

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Speaker 1: the toilet paper. That's where the trick comes into trick

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Speaker 1: or treat, right, and then you poop on their lawn

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Speaker 1: and wipe yourself with the toilet paper. Well, um, I

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Speaker 1: hope that you are excited for this episode because I

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Speaker 1: have some creepy creatures to share with you. I also found,

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Speaker 1: um the worst Halloween soundboard in existence, which I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited about. Um, so you know, I hope you are too.

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Speaker 1: Just here is a little sample of that with uh

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Speaker 1: this this spooky Halloween sound Oh my goodness. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: they're having so much fun. What was the joke they

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Speaker 1: told you? I don't know. Here's here's a witch sound laughing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: This one is just called blood. That's the sounds of

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Speaker 1: Lettle right. Yeah. Well, you know it's a free Halloween

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Speaker 1: soundboard that I lovingly picked out for this episode. Um,

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Speaker 1: so let's get right into it and talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the ghoulish creatures that are very HALLOWEENI very spooky,

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Speaker 1: M M, that's not that's not really I feel like

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Speaker 1: about the goliath frog. Jesus. They are like, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: the goliath frog. Do you remember there was a fake

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Speaker 1: green tree frog. And they're beautiful frogs, but they only

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Speaker 1: They can wait over seven pounds or three kilograms, which

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Speaker 1: I envy this frog because I think frogs are the

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Speaker 1: chilliest of you want to eat a chihuahua? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly know. They're so they're so relaxed. They just this,

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Speaker 1: there's like lizards and alligators, but they're all like stretched out.

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Speaker 1: Frogs are the only ones that are like I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: the reptile world. I don't know, I don't know how Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: they totally are. I really love that description. Well, rabbits

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Speaker 1: of me amphibian world to be that's you should feel bad,

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Speaker 1: like this squeaky, wheezing whistle that they use to get

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Speaker 1: chunkiest frog, this big goliath frog looking you know, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: to the ladies, you know, it's like it's like yeah, also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: imagine being in a swamp and you're hearing something whistle

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Speaker 1: I would love to get hit on by a swamp monster,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, thank you. They don't

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they encourage it. They're like getting the swamp, yeah,

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Speaker 1: getting swampy, getting getting these duck weeds with me. That that,

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Speaker 1: goliath frogs, they actually construct private pools for their offspring,

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Speaker 1: so cool. Also, good on them. Nobody likes public displays

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Speaker 1: So um. It's thought that the males construct the nest

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Speaker 1: a theory for why they evolved to be so beefy,

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Speaker 1: because the ideas that the frogs that were better able

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Speaker 1: then they just turned into these little froggy beefcakes. No adorable.

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Speaker 1: I know what everybody's wondering, what do they eat Chihuahua's Well, uh,

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Speaker 1: not quite. They eat worms, spiders, insects, crabs, mollusks, fish,

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Speaker 1: Basically anything that's uh smaller than them, Like that's what.

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Speaker 1: it sounds like. They don't eat chewa. But if a

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Speaker 1: and stay in it. We just respect them from afar.

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Speaker 1: want do you want your life to intersect with them

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but like you know, we're we They have

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Speaker 1: Us and frogs are young. Might occasionally pick them up, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when bitten. So they're just like, well, we got these

420
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: hag fish corpses, and we're gonna build a guillotine made

421
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: out of shark teeth, uh, and then just like put

422
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: these hag fish in there. Uh. They also did some

423
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: ed Geen level experimentation where they would cut off the

424
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: hagfish skin and reattach it with glue because remember I said, like,

425
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: it's only attached like to their backs, this skin, and

426
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: so they're like, well, what if it was attached firmly

427
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: to their whole body like our human skin is, and

428
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: then put them in the back into the shark guillotine

429
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: to see, you know, what difference does it make? Like,

430
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: So they did find that that loose skin really does

431
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: save them from the from the shark bite. So while

432
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the shark tooth guillotine was able to puncture the hagfish's skin,

433
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: it was not able to puncture the muscle tissue. Uh

434
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: so due to the way that the skin slid against

435
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: the muscle and skin heals can heal quite quickly, whereas

436
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: muscle tissue does not heal very quickly. Um. And when

437
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: they ed gained the fish and like glared the skin

438
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: onto its dead body. Again, great work, biologist, love you, um,

439
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: keep doing this and please do not give into any

440
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: other dark desires because of what you're doing is great. Yeah,

441
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: this is your outlet. Continue with this and literally nothing

442
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: else please. So yeah, when the skin was firmly attached

443
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to the hag fish, the shark guillotine worked like it

444
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: was able to puncture the fishes muscles, So it really

445
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: was being, you know, a blood sock that prevented them

446
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: from sustaining serious injury from getting bitten. I love that

447
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: because had they just in the first experiment and found

448
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: that the skin protected it, that's all I needed. I'd

449
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, the skin protects it. But wait, let's

450
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: glue the skin and yeah I don't I don't need Okay, sure,

451
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: go for it. I guess. Yeah, just like, well, you know,

452
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: we've got all these dead hagfish, and we do have

453
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: this shark to guillotine, so I do kind of want

454
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: to cut off all its skin and glue it back

455
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: on anyone with We're afterwards where they're like hag fish

456
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: fight slapping each other with it. I mean, that would

457
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: be highly unethical, highly unethical, and super fun. So um, yeah,

458
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: they in addition to this loose skin situation, they've got

459
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: another trick up their sleeves. If there is a of

460
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: a shark or something that is very determined to try

461
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: to eat one of these guys. Um, Remember how I

462
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: said they are absolutely covered in slime. They have over

463
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: one hundred slime glands and they use them to produce

464
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: a just ridiculous amount of slime. And it's this thick,

465
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: milky white, translucent and actually semi fibrous material. It looks

466
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: exactly like ectoplasm, you know how like ectoplasm is described

467
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: in like old like Victorian era seances or represented in

468
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: like I guess Ghostbusters. It's always just like kind of

469
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: like thick goo. Uh that is it is. It's exactly that.

470
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Like you could if you use hagfish slime, you could,

471
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, do a seance and be like actoplasm because

472
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: it looks like what I see ectoplasm described as by

473
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, ghost experts. I don't know what they're calrings

474
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: to the idea of a medium, like a scam artist

475
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: keeping some hagfish because they need ecto players, like there's

476
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: nothing else, there's no other, no other sorts, and this

477
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: tag fish is like it's a little I have a

478
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: weird question. Are they happy? Do they have a good life?

479
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: I think they do. I think they do, And I'm

480
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: going to explain why so so, because they're so slimy

481
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: uh it actually um and fibrous and thick. It's like

482
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: it actually will clog up the gills of predators. So um,

483
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: while I do not have gills, I am can only

484
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: imagine that having a bunch of that thick, nasty goo

485
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: in my gills would feel horrible. Uh. And like, so

486
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: these predators will back off and try to clean the

487
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: gunk out of their gills because they need their gills

488
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: to breathe, and because they are just so slimy and

489
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: nasty and and like just all this goo happens when

490
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: they agitate these hagfish, most predators just avoid them all together.

491
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: They learn they just do not want to mess with

492
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: these guys, even though they are essentially these giant ramen

493
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: noodles of the sea, which would probably be delicious to

494
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: a predator, uh if they weren't covered in slime and

495
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: had their weird like blood sock skin. Just they're yeah

496
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: and so like uh they as basically then have free

497
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: run to uh have a lot of fun and eat

498
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: stuff at the bottom of the ocean. And so you know,

499
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier that they don't have jaws, which makes

500
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: it seem really difficult for them to eat. Um. And

501
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: instead of jaws, they actually have a pair of tooth

502
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: covered plates, which I do gotta say, uh, and parents

503
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: cover your little kid's ears. It looks a little bit

504
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: like a vagina dentata. You know. Yeah, we we've been

505
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: dancing around this. The entire everything about these worms is

506
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: genital in nature. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit

507
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: not to be not to go to blue to gross.

508
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: It's very well, you know how like Alien who was

509
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: like like Geiger Geiger Geeger who did the Aliens artwork,

510
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of his artwork is like a little

511
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: bit little phallic, little sexual. It's like there's some of

512
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: this like stuff in terms of designing the alien to

513
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: be like have sort of this like weird. I don't know,

514
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I find the alien from Aliens sexual.

515
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: This is like yeah, exactly to represent a sort of

516
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: like I don't know again, like innu window. Yeah, this

517
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: looks like an hr Yeah, like this is a this

518
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: fish is an innu window, like a horror an innu window. Yeah.

519
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: You look at them and you're like, that's a little much.

520
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little bit flaccid, got kind

521
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: of a vaginasin todd a going on. It's you know,

522
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: it's he's it's a little naughty, I gotta say, a

523
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: little naughty. But so so how does it use these

524
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: weird because like with the jaw, it's like, okay, joh,

525
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: you chomp, chump, chomp like a pac man. What do

526
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: you do with like toothplates, Well, they don't chew. Instead,

527
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: they use these toothplates to grab onto flesh and rasp it.

528
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: When rasping is basically just kind of like using that

529
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: to like tear little pieces of flesh off or sometimes

530
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: sizeable chunks. And they will eat dead or dyeing marine

531
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: animals who sink to the bottom of the ocean. So like,

532
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: once you start sinking to the bottom of the ocean,

533
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: there are all sorts of the tread of wars who

534
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: want to eat you. But I feel like these guys

535
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: are the scariest. So they will grab a hunk of

536
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: decaying flesh, or even living flesh if it's just a

537
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: animal that's sickly and can't move anymore, and they will

538
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: wriggle and writhe in knots until they've torn off a

539
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: healthy portion of that dead whale, shark, or anyone unfortunate

540
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: to end up in a watery grave or even something

541
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: that's only half dead. Um. And then uh, they will

542
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: invite themselves inside the body. Uh, they'll bore a hole

543
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: inside and feast on the carcass from the inside out.

544
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,479
Speaker 1: Like they're at the world's grossest sisslers, just like all

545
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: having a huge party inside a dead whale. They're having

546
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: a great time. They're having such a good time. And

547
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: they can actually absorb nutrients not only through their mouth

548
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: but through their gills and skin, meaning they can slurp

549
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: up the gooey, decaying soup from inside a carcass like

550
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: a tube shaped sponge. Good for them. It's a reminder

551
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: anytime you watch a horror movie where like someone finds

552
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: a body and there's rats in it or cockroaches, what

553
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: you're seeing is a party. Yeah, you're seeing those animals

554
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: having a fantastic day. They've got the cards. They're having

555
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: such a good time. And these worms, man, I really

556
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: respect them. Like I was asking if they're happy, because

557
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: I think that the age old question if you could

558
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: be any animal reincarnate. I think this is high on

559
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: the list for me now because they're they're so I

560
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: love them whales all day long. Yeah, they seem to

561
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: be having a great time, and I love that they're

562
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: just too gross for anything else to eat and they're

563
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: just freaking out sharks. I love it. I love that.

564
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: I want that for myself. Yeah, I mean they are

565
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: like their brains are very small. Uh, they're very simple.

566
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: They're like like again, they're like an extremely primitive fish.

567
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: So you know, they're they're just they have such a

568
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: simple life of like being gross, slimy and eating stuff

569
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: and partying. That's the that's any like like college bro. Really.

570
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Unfortunately for them, humans have taken an interest in their

571
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: slime because so yeah, despite the fact that the slime

572
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: is a huge deterrent for marine predators, humans we were

573
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: such perverts, were always like, huh, interesting a defense strategy

574
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: that all other animals hate. Maybe we can eat it.

575
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: It's like with a spice, like spicy food, like spicy peppers.

576
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: It's like that is a way to keep trying to

577
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: keep um bugs from eating the pepper challenge. And we're

578
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: like and like, birds actually are not they can't. Uh,

579
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: that doesn't have an effect on birds. And so therefore

580
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: a bird can eat like a pepper and like dispense

581
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: the seeds for the plant and it's fine. But then

582
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: an insect that would kill the plant before it's ready

583
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: to um spread. It seeds around then, like you know,

584
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: the the bug is vulnerable to that. But then along

585
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: comes humans and we're like, hey, I'm gonna eat this

586
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: pepper because it hurts my mouth, and that's that's that's hot.

587
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: I love that. It's fun. It's like it's like, you know,

588
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: my mouth is masochistic. I love that. So it's the

589
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: same deal with the slimmer, like that is disgusting. No

590
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: animal wants to eat that. Let's eat it. So it's

591
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: so rich in protein. Hagfish slime can be used as

592
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: an egg white substitute and apparently pretty good. Um, I

593
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: mean why if I guess it doesn't harm an animal, right,

594
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: or does it? I mean, you gotta get it from

595
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: the hag fish. And the way to get the slime

596
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: from the hagfish is to like annoy it. So like

597
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: you're basically annoying and stressing out hag fish and they're like,

598
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, vegan, it's not not vegan. It's not vegan.

599
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's I mean, it's probably more sustainable than

600
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: chicken eggs. I don't feel like it sounds like it

601
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: would be, but I don't know accept the world where

602
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: we stop eating meat. We stopped like where what we

603
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: do instead is just annoy animals for their food. I

604
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: do you like that idea, Like it's a it's an upgrade.

605
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: You know, technically we're not killing them, We're just bothering.

606
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: I wish we could just like kind of tickle them though,

607
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: and then they like go to tea and then like

608
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: goose out some of their slime Like that would be

609
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, but I don't know. Yeah, I mean, you know,

610
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: I guess like thinking about it, like chickens are probably

611
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: more intelligent than hagfish, so they probably are more like

612
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: can like suffer more when we are, you know, exploiting

613
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: them for eggs or something in bad conditions, but maybe

614
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 1: are less like aware of the situation. Hopefully, if chickens

615
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: are in good conditions, is what's going on? Is they

616
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: lay eggs, we take them, They're like I just laid okay,

617
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of make more eggs, Like is that what's going on?

618
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: They just keep going up? Well, No, it's probably fine.

619
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: Like if they're in good conditions, I don't think it

620
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: really it's not a big problem because they those are

621
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: just like unfertilized eggs. So they would they would, I

622
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: mean in the while, I think because they were domesticated

623
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: and selected or increased egg production. Wildbirds I don't think

624
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: would lay that many unfertilized eggs. Um. But they're not

625
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: like annoyed at all, Like they're not like I don't

626
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean maybe I don't really

627
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: know the psychology of a chicken, but uh no, I

628
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: don't think they'd be that disturbed because they probably I

629
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: would imagine they might have a sense of like, these

630
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: are fertilized eggs, but I don't actually know. I've never

631
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: raised chickens. I don't know that much about chicken farming. Um,

632
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe wrong, maybe they're like they're like my

633
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: baby every time you scrambling. But yeah, so uh. In

634
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: addition to being an egg white substitute, hagfish slime fibers

635
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: are so strong and pliable, researchers are trying to reverse

636
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: engineer them to create flexible, strong fibers for I guess technology. Yeah,

637
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: it is interesting. I read something where it's like the

638
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: military is looking into this, Like of course they are.

639
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: They have such a huge that's such a huge budget

640
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: they're just like, I don't know, get some slime and

641
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: make weapons out of them. We'll just make everything weapons.

642
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: So what you're what you're sort of saying is in

643
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: Spider Man to the Amazing Spider Man Too, where Electro

644
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: falls into a vat of electric eels in the lab.

645
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: That's not far off from realism. I bet there was

646
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: some kind of like arms uh person like military research

647
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: and development person watching that movie and going like, huh, yeah,

648
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: well could we yeah, or they're like, oh, they know

649
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: about our eels like it's making a phone call they know. Yeah, No,

650
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, could we just I would like

651
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: there to be some discovery where it's like it doesn't

652
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: immediately become militarized. That would be nice, Like can we

653
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: would be can you just let him be slimy? You know? Right?

654
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: But once again, man is the villain. We were the

655
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: villain the whole time. We are the real monster. Um.

656
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: At least we're not trying to eat them. I'm glad

657
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: we're just annoying them. Yeah, no, we'd still also eat

658
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: the whole. They're apparently very tasty. You know, I don't know,

659
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: they don't look tasty, but they do. They decidedly do not.

660
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: But apparently, I guess they're like a big sausage. Okay,

661
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: yeah they do. I guess they look like a big sausage.

662
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: That's true. Well, on that note, we're going to take

663
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: another quick break. You can, um, you know, change your

664
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: change your shorts if this got too scary for you,

665
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: if you're too spooked, um, and we will be right back.

666
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: Where's my soundboard? Leave all this in there we go.

667
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: This one is just called strange. Oh that's horrible. Yeah,

668
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was cos this is the worst,

669
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: the worst sound pack I've ever ever. Yeah, this isn't great.

670
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: It's very good. It's not good. Here's a bell it

671
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: says nice. That's a good one. That's a good one. Oh,

672
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: and it's going. It keeps going. I guess we'll be

673
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: right back. All right, and we are back, And I

674
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: have a question for you. Do you think that the

675
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Boogeyman is real? Like like like a like a man

676
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: who boogies down like it's dancing, Yeah, disco dancing. Yeah,

677
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: he's very real. I guess disco died and so disco

678
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: would be undead. So that's spooky, right yeah, yeah, uh yeah,

679
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: there's yeah, sure, sure, yeah boom, yeah, that makes that

680
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. Um, But what we are actually

681
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: going to talk about is a real life boogie woogie

682
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: worm who wants to kill you. Oh no, what is that?

683
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: Someone in a like a I've got like a bunch

684
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: of wine glasses and I'm going to town on them,

685
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, with the like the rims and you got

686
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: do but spooky. Anyways, Yes, uh, this is the Lenomia

687
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: obliqua and it is not exactly a worm, but a silkworm.

688
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: Silkworms are actually the caterpillars of the giant silkworm moth.

689
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: They are found in South America and they are not

690
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: used in silk production for a very good reason. So

691
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: these are actually quite cute. I think they're fluffy little

692
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: caterpillars with black, brown and white banding on their torso

693
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: and green pine needle like hairs that's sprout all sprout

694
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: out all over their bodies. And yeah, they're they're cool looking.

695
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: They look like cool caterpillars. Yeah, I wouldn't want to

696
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: touch him because of the pine needle things, but they're

697
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: very they're they're yeah, they're little grubs like yeah, yeah,

698
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: they're also highly social and will form big groups, often

699
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: huddling together on a tree trunk, and when they are startled,

700
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: say by allowed sound, they will jump up in a

701
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: defensive posture. So when you have whole groups of these

702
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: guys huddled together and you startle them, they'll all jump

703
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: up at the same time like they're dancing, but they're

704
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: not dancing. You're just kind of pissing them off. Um. Yeah,

705
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to piss them off. But I shared

706
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: with you there's a video that's the durable. It's so cute.

707
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: It's very cute. That is Oh my goodness, that's like

708
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: when I when I startled both of my cats at

709
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: the same time, they both look up. That's so cute. Yeah, no,

710
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: it's very cute. Um, it's kind of a mean thing

711
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: to do because you're basically just startling these caterpillars. Um.

712
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: But also, um, you probably don't want to piss them

713
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: off too much because I guess I forgot to mention

714
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: they are the world's deadliest caterpillar. Oh yeah, good for them.

715
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: So David, you your instincts are like right on today

716
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: because you're correct not wanting to touch them. Those pine

717
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: needle like bristles on their bodies are actually called rdicating hairs,

718
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: and many caterpillars have them. Even other types of animals

719
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: like spiders have them. Uh In fact, plants sometimes have them.

720
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: So an irdicating hair is any kind of hair or

721
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: bristle that sometimes they're covered in barbs or a toxin

722
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: that causes irritate, shin harm, or in the case of

723
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: the Lenomia obliqua, actually death. So these hairs on this

724
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: caterpillar are hollow, and each hair has a gland that

725
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: dispenses a highly potent toxin that flows through these hollow

726
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: hairs like little shyringes, and it's covered in these hairs,

727
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: and each hair has its own little venom gland, and

728
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: so touching or stepping on the caterpillar will cause you

729
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: to be pricked and envenomated. The venom messes with your

730
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: blood's coagulation. Coagulation is important because it is what basically

731
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: regulates your blood's ability to form clots, and clotting is

732
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: important not just for like wounds outside of your body,

733
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: but wounds inside, wounds inside your body like tears or

734
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 1: rips and blood vessels, you know, damage to sells, things

735
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: like that, And so if you have too much coagulation,

736
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: you can form blood clots, and this is the method

737
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: of action of a lot of venom. But if you

738
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: have two little coagulation, you can actually have hemorrhaging like

739
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: a lot of bleeding. UM. And both of these things

740
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: are quite serious, and the l obliqua UH toxin actually

741
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: causes both problems. So UH, the venom contains these powerful anticoagulants,

742
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: but it's not just an anticoagulant and completely messes with

743
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: your bloods coagulation process. So when it first enters the

744
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: blood stream and actually can cause blood clots throughout the body,

745
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: and then it causes the opposite problem by actually causing

746
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of bleeding UH. And so all this this

747
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: uncontrolled bleeding, the inability to form clots inside of the

748
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: body can cause things like brain hemorrhage, damage to kidneys,

749
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: and it can often be fatal. So the death rate

750
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: UH is about two point five percent with treatment. Now

751
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound bad, right, It's like, you know, you

752
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: said these are super deadly, but consider that in the US,

753
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: venomous snake bites have a death rate of about point

754
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: zero five percent when treated. So these things are more

755
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: serious than snake bites in the US. These little guys

756
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: will mess you up. They will mess you up aside

757
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: from like a virus, like these feel like one of

758
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: the smallest things that can kill you. Like organisms. Yeah,

759
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm trying to think. Box jellyfish are quite small.

760
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: They can also kill you. The blue spotted octopus. I

761
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: guess those are probably little bigger, maybe around the same size.

762
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe bigger and total mass or something. Uh,

763
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: those are also quite small. Palm of your hand can

764
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: also kill you. Yeah, but like obviously mosquitoes can kill you,

765
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: but it's not the actual mosquito. It is the the

766
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: virus that they are transmitting to you, or the pathogen

767
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: that they are transmitting to you. Um, these little guys

768
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: are like assassins, yeah, yeah something, yeah, yeah, I think

769
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: they're actually sometimes called like assassin caterpillars. So yeah, And

770
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: I remember I said like earlier, they're highly social. You

771
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: saw that they formed this big group on the tree.

772
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: And so the most dangerous cases of invinimation aren't like

773
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: if you kind of just like touch one, it's gonna suck,

774
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt really bad. You're gonna probably get bruises,

775
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: it's a bad time. Do you not ever touch these? Um,

776
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: But you probably wouldn't die if you just got like

777
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: one little prick from one little caterpillar. Um, if you're

778
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: a grown adult, you're in for a bad time. Uh.

779
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: But if you touch multiple ones all at once, that

780
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: is really a dangerous situation. And so if you like

781
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: lean your hand against a tree and you're not paying attention,

782
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: like say you're in Brazil, like in in the in

783
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: the rainforest, and you lean against a tree and you like, um,

784
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: and the tree is like this tree is awfully fuzzy,

785
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: and then you look in your hand is just covered

786
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: and that is Uh, that's a really bad time. And

787
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: in fact, there's been an increase in invinimations, and that

788
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: is because we have been encroaching more on forest territory

789
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: in places like Brazil, and so the more humans are

790
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: closer to these areas where these caterpillars are, the more

791
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: accidental invinimations happen, and they can be very serious. The

792
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 1: rainforest is a lot like the ocean, where just don't

793
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: go in it. That's it. Just don't go in it.

794
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: Respect it, you know what I mean. Like just like

795
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: if you can visit it if you want, but like

796
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: I respect it if you go in it, don't touch anything.

797
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't assume that's right. You gotta you gotta respect it,

798
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: uh man, I yes, I I think that, Like it

799
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a hint for us, isn't it,

800
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: Because like it's all It also sucks because I don't

801
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: like the people who get you know, like the invinimated

802
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: by these caterpillars, they don't like deserve it, like and

803
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: it's often children. And it's like often children because they

804
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: don't have like that much spatial awareness and like they're little,

805
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: and so it's a lot more serious for them. So

806
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: it's like it just really sucks, Like, you know, we

807
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta respect nature because it's you know, we

808
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: need it, and it's sometimes dangerous. I feel like this

809
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: is one where like you look at this caterpillar and

810
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: you kind of instinctively know, like I probably shouldn't touch

811
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: that caterpillar. So you're right, is that it feels like

812
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: a lot of it's accidental because it's like you can

813
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: still mess you up if you accidentally push up against it. Yeah,

814
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: you just lean against the furry tree and next thing

815
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the hospital. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, man,

816
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: they're they're adorable. But yeah, they're that's I mean again,

817
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: good on them. They're taking down giants, so that's neat.

818
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're right, is that it's a it feels

819
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: like the people affected by this aren't necessarily meaning them all. No, no, no,

820
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: like you know, like little children. Maybe they're like unaware

821
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: or step on one or like touch one intentionally. But

822
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: because their children, they don't know, so some of them

823
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: are going to put them in their mouth. Yeah, and

824
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: that can be bad as well, that that there, because

825
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: then they're covered in that tox and you get that

826
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: in your mouth, bad, bad stuff happening. Yeah, yeah, I

827
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: don't do that. I mean, like that's that's the point

828
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: of the toxin is to ward off predators, to be

829
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: like you're going to get you know, you're gonna get

830
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: messed up because it causes a lot of pain to

831
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: like when you when you touch it like your you

832
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: immediately know something's wrong because it's very painful. Right. It

833
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: reminds me of like like stinging nettle and all those

834
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: those plants where it's like yeah, yeah, I mean a

835
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: lot like those, a lot of those plants they're the

836
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: the stinging portion of them is actually ordicating hairs, the

837
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: same kind of system that these caterpillars use, which is

838
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: it's really fascinating. It's really interesting. Bugs are like meaty

839
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: plants in a way, like well, like they live in

840
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 1: the plant world. They're very closely connected, and I feel

841
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: like the they take a lot from the plant world.

842
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, obviously there's bugs that look like plants, but

843
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: it feels like they also like that the plants can

844
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: eat them and they eat plants. Like what a what

845
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 1: a life? What relationship? Well, imagine living in a home

846
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: and being like, but you can eat the walls, but

847
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: watch out because every now and then the walls will

848
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: also eat you. That'd be a fun home, I gotta say,

849
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: Like it would be kept on your toes. But you

850
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: can eat the walls. That's great. Yeah, yeah, no, There's

851
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of cool relationships between bugs and plants,

852
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: insects and plants, and also spiders and plants. Uh, just

853
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: just an amazing kind of like, um, I've talked about

854
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: this on the show before, but like a picture plant

855
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and a spider. They both these like I think they're

856
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: called orchids. Spiders and spiders look kind of like flowers.

857
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: They're they're very they're very beautiful, and then they live

858
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: in these picture plants and they both eat insects, and

859
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: so you think that the spider, by living in the

860
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: picture plant is just stealing insects from the picture plant,

861
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: but actually the spider presence gives the picture plants a

862
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: higher kill rate when it comes to bugs, because like

863
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: essentially the spiders, if the spider doesn't like successfully catch

864
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: the buget's at least like driven it into the picture

865
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: um and then uh or it will like suck out

866
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: the juices from the bug, drop the rest into the

867
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: picture and the picture plant can actually digest more of

868
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: it than the spider can. And then when the spider dies,

869
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: it actually will drop into the picture plant. And then like,

870
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because they're like friends, have this

871
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: great relationship, and then like the spider dies and it's

872
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: like it's last gift, like I have bequeathed to you

873
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: my body. Enjoy Yep, it's it's Homer eating the lobstering. Yeah,

874
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. The picture plant crying. It doesn't know neither

875
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: of them, no, no, neither of them know what's going

876
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: on they Yeah, it's great. It's cooperation that really screw

877
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: over these little flies. Um. Speaking of speaking of spiders.

878
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Actually to to um, the last sort of topic of

879
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: the episode, just short little story. It's a cute little

880
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Halloween story about spiders. There are species of spiders that

881
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: build Halloween decorations. Specifically, they will build giant spider effigies.

882
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: In the Peruvian Amazon as well as in Madagascar, there

883
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: are these two species of Cyclosa spider. They're very small

884
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: spider and they use dead bugs and other debris to

885
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: build giant spider shaped sculptures on their webs. Oh is

886
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: this I assume to make themselves feel like they're bigger spiders.

887
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 1: It's a real confidence booster, you know. I've shared you

888
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the doc there's an image of

889
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: it so you can really see it. Does it does

890
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: like from a distance it would full you. It looks

891
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: like a spider, like a big old spider. Absolutely yet

892
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: spider statues. Yeah, And the exact purpose of these uh

893
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: sculptures is unknown. These are relatively recently discovered spiders, but

894
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: the leading theory is that this is an anti predator

895
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: defense system. So like there's lots of of insects or

896
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, other things that would love to snack on

897
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: these spiders because they're little. These are like three millimeters big, um,

898
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: so they're tasty snack to a lot of predators. But

899
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: they are these predators would be much less likely to

900
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: try to tangle with a spider like ten times that size.

901
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: And they don't realize that this huge spider is actually

902
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: just a fake one built out of built out of

903
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of dead fly corpses. And so I just

904
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: it's it's adorable to me, just like I'm a little guy,

905
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: so I build a big spider. It's like it's like

906
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: an a bug's life where they build the giant bird

907
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: or it's like it's exactly a little guy just pretended

908
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: to be a bigger guy. I love it. Yeah, I

909
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: mean a big don't worry about it. Yeah, I want

910
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: them to like jiggle the web to make it move

911
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: a little. I wonder, Yeah, that was interesting because yeah,

912
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: we really don't know exactly like what they do their

913
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: behavior there, they're so recently discovered. But yeah, yeah, like god,

914
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily be surprised because I know

915
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: that there's there are animals that will do things like

916
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: move around to make their deception more convincing, like this,

917
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: there's a viper that has like a tail that kind

918
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: of looks like a worm, and they'll kind of move

919
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: it around like a little worm. And then a or

920
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: an insect or a spider. Oh right, there's a viper

921
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: that has a tail that kind of looks like a spider,

922
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: and they'll move it around in a way that makes

923
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: it kind of look like a little spider scrabbling over

924
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: a rock. And then a bird comes to try to

925
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: eat it, and the snake just like grabs the bird man.

926
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm really looking for If I read about

927
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: any updates on this spider with more research coming out,

928
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,919
Speaker 1: I will update people about it because it's it's so good.

929
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: I just love this, the ingenuity of this little spider,

930
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: Like it probably doesn't know what it's going. It's just

931
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: this evolutionary like it just one started breaking dead bugs

932
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: against the web got eaten less, and then the ones

933
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: that had the more convincing spider look because it's it's

934
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: not that hard to make this spider out of dead bugs.

935
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: Because you guys got a bunch of dead bugs in

936
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: the center, and then dead bugs on some of these

937
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: supporting threads leading outwards from the web. And now you've

938
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: got yourself a spider, right, do you think they like? Yeah,

939
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: because you're right is they don't know what they're doing.

940
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: But do you think they like at first they built

941
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: it out too far and they're like, no, that doesn't

942
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: work for some reason because it doesn't look like a

943
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: spider anymore, and so they have to like hone it in.

944
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: It cannot. I can't imagine it works on an individual

945
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: level um, where it is a single spider learning this process.

946
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: I highly doubt that. I think it's more in terms

947
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: of evolution, where it's just it's weird to think about.

948
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: But evolution works on such an enormous scale over you know,

949
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: millions of years, and then with spiders they reproduce frequently,

950
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: so millions of years for spiders even longer in terms

951
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: of like there how quickly they reproduce, how many generations

952
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: that is, And so I can imagine it being to

953
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: the point of where it is it is encouraging shaping

954
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: the behavior in such a way that the spiders instinct

955
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: to collect detritus and put it on the web um

956
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: has just been optimally shaped to be just the right

957
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: amount so that it, uh it will protect it. But

958
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: the spider itself, I don't know that there's any like

959
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: that is following any template. I mean, similarly, the spider

960
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: builds these amazing webs like they can. They are capable

961
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: of having an instinctive pattern that they just uh go

962
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: out and do, and so I think that's probably a

963
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: similar thing where it's like evolution has driven them to

964
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: create this like mental pattern that they are born with

965
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: instinctively and then they just perform it. They don't know why,

966
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: they're just spider. They're just like dom Doon spider stuff.

967
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: This feels like, this just feels right, it just works.

968
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: They're like they could be a spider serial killer because

969
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: this is the equivalent of us like making a human

970
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 1: statue using bones. Yeah we did that though, like the catacombs,

971
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: the Parisian Catapacombs just like built a bunch like chandeliers

972
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 1: out of bones, a bunch of board monks and stuff

973
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: like yeah. They really They're like they got we did it.

974
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: We did the bones stuff. We did that. Society were like,

975
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: let's let's do let's have our bone run. Let's just

976
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: see what we can build out of bones. It's like

977
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: if you play Minecraft and you're like I'm gonna make

978
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: a dirt palace just for fun like that. That's yeah.

979
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: We're like, let's let's do bones. Yeah. It's like it's

980
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: like when you have when someone's board, they will do

981
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: make art out of whatever they have. And so these

982
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: like board monks and these like catacombs. It's like, I

983
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know what we got. We got a bunch of bones. Yeah, uh,

984
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: let's do something. Yeah. Are we so different from from

985
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: the spiders? Not really just fewer legs and arms and relics,

986
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: but then we're essentially exactly the same. Honestly, God, I

987
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: love spiders. I I had a little bit of a

988
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: fly invasion, like these drain flies because I went on

989
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: vacation and they're like, ah, nobody's here. I'm gonna like

990
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: find some water somewhere, and like just a bunch of

991
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: drain flies came and then there was like this big

992
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: pile of dead, dead drain flies. It's like, excellent. I

993
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: love to see that because I hate these drain flies.

994
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: And then I look up and there's just this very fat,

995
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: satisfied little spider. I'm like, dude, I love you, man

996
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: A great time. I'm happy enough to sweep up your

997
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,439
Speaker 1: It's essentially it's like someone you know, eating a bunch

998
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 1: of chips or drinking a bunch of cants and coat

999
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: of coke and just like dropping them down, real suck

1000
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: the juices out of these flies and then just drop

1001
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: the carcass down and man, I will I will tidy

1002
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,439
Speaker 1: up for you because I appreciate you. This is great. Yeah,

1003
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: I wish I would chips were like a pest for

1004
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: somebody else. I wish I got applauded every eight chips

1005
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: A good job. God, someone had to get rid of

1006
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: those chips like a race of giants. AND's like, we're

1007
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: sick of these delicious meritoes. Exactly, can someone eat these doritas?

1008
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: I'm your guy, I got this for you. Yeah, that

1009
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: would be great. A symbiotic relationship based on our ability

1010
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: to love doritos. Oh I want it. I want it

1011
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: so bad. Well, before we go, we've got to play

1012
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: a little game. Do you want to play a little game? Oh?

1013
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that gentleman does not want to play

1014
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, that was a button on. This's just

1015
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: called Torture, which is again best best soundboard ever. Um,

1016
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: this game is called Yes, Who's squawk? And it's the

1017
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: Mystery Animal sound game. Every week I play a mystery

1018
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: animal sound and you the listener, and hey, you the gifts,

1019
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: trying to guess who is squawking? So is it any

1020
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 1: animal or any can you literally any animal? I won't

1021
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: trick you and do a plant, but yes, any animal? Alright,

1022
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: So last week's hint was you've been lied to. These

1023
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: guys don't have wings, alright, so can you guess who

1024
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 1: is squawking? You've been lied to? They don't have wings.

1025
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what food buffalo? You are correct, Yes,

1026
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: this is the African buffalo. It is found in sub

1027
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: Saharan Africa. Yeah, and so they are not to be

1028
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: confused with the American bison. Yeah. This is actually also

1029
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: not an ancestor of like domesticated cows. This is a

1030
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: separate sort of line. Um, but yeah it. Uh. What

1031
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: I like about these guys is they're literally undomesticatable. They're

1032
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: so ordery and unpredictable that humans just kind of gave up.

1033
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: They're just like, no, they're what. They're like the worms,

1034
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: where we're like, yeah, they're just they're just the worms.

1035
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: But in Yeah, just like these huge, huge buffalo with horns. Um,

1036
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: they don't like to be messed with, and we gave

1037
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: up on ever trying to domesticate them. Yeah, I appreciate that.

1038
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean buffalo, they had some trouble. They were hunted

1039
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot, but I like the current state where it's like,

1040
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 1: it's my favorite thing about places like Yellowstone where you

1041
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: hear like a tourist mald and the response is like, yeah,

1042
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't have gotten near. Yeah, and so those are

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Speaker 1: actually American. I know we called buffalo, but they're actually

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Speaker 1: they're bison. Yes, and we say like where the buffalo

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01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: rowan blah blah blah, but yeah, those are those are

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Speaker 1: American bison. They look somewhat similar the bison, or shaggier

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: the African bugfalow doesn't typically have that shaggy coat. It's

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: horns are a little different. They have more of them,

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01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: like a handlebar mustache on top of their heads that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, they I mean American bison do well.

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01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: Like if people like I think they can just like

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01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: walk up to them and like because they're fluffy and

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01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, we don't think of herbivores as being dangerous,

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: but then the bison is just like, oh honey, I

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01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta teach you a lesson and just toss

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 1: you I who worked at Yellowstone. And there's very much

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01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: this idea of like national parks are also theme parks,

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01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: and it's like they are not. There are places where

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01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: you will die and and you can't sue anybody for that.

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Speaker 1: You can't just go Yeah, can't see a bison, You

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01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: can't to a buffalo. African buffalo are are similarly dangerous.

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Speaker 1: They will kill over two hundred people a year either

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Speaker 1: by trampling goring them, so they are not to be

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01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: trifled with. Yeah, don't go near him unless you really

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: think you have a connection to one, right, and you're like,

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: oh this one, this one will let me ride it.

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01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: If you've written your will out, settled all your affairs

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: and you look one in the eye, actually know if

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: the buffalo speaks to you says like it's okay, Dave,

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01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: you can come here, it's a it is definitely going

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: to murder you and be like, yeah, like, multiple things

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01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: are going wrong. If that right, you have to be

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01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: very concerned, Right dad, it's fine, and you have to

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01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: wonder like what was the last thing I ate drink,

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01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: uh and then try to ride it. Yeah, it's got

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01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: those horns. You can hold them like an r. Yes,

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: you can definitely hold them with your tour, so having

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01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: them inside of your tours, so going right through it.

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01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: So but good job, good guessing you. You absolutely nailed

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01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: that one. Well you nailed it with the clue. I

1081
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: was like, what doesn't have wings when we say has wings?

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01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: I was like, chickens, No, they have wings, they have

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01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: chicken fly No? No, yeah, but yeah, you know buffalo

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01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: wings actually from a chicken. Weird, right, Yeah, it's like

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01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: how Greenland is kind of icy. It's icy. Yeah, I

1086
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know what the deal is.

1087
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: What's the deal. What's the deal? Anyways, Congratulations again to

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01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 1: Bob and to Steven M for gissing correctly that this

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Speaker 1: was the buffalo onto. This week's mystery animal sound hint

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Speaker 1: is just happy Halloween. Oh than her horror like a

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01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: walk a walk a walk ever horror, walk a walk

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01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: a walk all right, so that I assume that Fozzy

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 1: Bear drunk. It's the dark Fozzy Bear tapes that they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to hear. Walk a walk, A walk,

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: A walk, walk a walk, a walk terrifying it is

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01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: actually an animal not a human being. Do I get

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: to guess? Yeah? Absolutely, And if you're right, I will

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01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: bleep you out. Okay, I'm guessing it's because well I

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01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: won't explain why. Well, you are absolutely correct, so you

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: will be bleeped out. I I do want to mention

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: at the end there was a little meal that was

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: in fact actually a cat. I guess the person recording

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01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 1: also has a cat. Uh, and so like a cat

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Speaker 1: just starts me owing. These things happens, happen, you know,

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01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: as a cat owner. Yeah, And I feel like any

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: anytime someone has like a weird animal, there's always a

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: cat there in the background, Like that's that's just something

1108
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: they have too. Yeah, yeah, it's just cash. Yeah. Cats

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: are not impressed by other animals. I've noticed that about

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Speaker 1: them generally speaking. Like if you put a polar bear

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01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: in front of a cat, the cat's gonna bat at it.

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01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: It's like it doesn't care. It absolutely doesn't care what

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Speaker 1: it is. You've seen like cat meeting a dolphin and

1114
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 1: it just sniffs it and it's it's like whatever, man,

1115
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: Like they just don't care. What I love is that

1116
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 1: other creatures will genuinely like you've seen cats chase bears

1117
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: on YouTube, they'll genuinely go ah. So that makes me

1118
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: think cats are like the spiders of the mammal world,

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01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 1: where they're like, yeah, those things freak me out. They're

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Speaker 1: the hagfish of ye of the mammal world. Like other

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Speaker 1: animals just don't want to deal with them. Yep, it's

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01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: much and humans for some reason are like, well, I'll

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: introduce this thing to my life. Yeah, why not put

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Speaker 1: this wild animal in my house? Well, Dave, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for coming to this minisode, to this spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I hope you're having a good Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Find you well. First of all, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: I quite enjoyed being on this. UM. I rarely plug

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Speaker 1: my Twitter, so I will at Movie Hooligan is my

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle. UM. I do a podcast series, as you

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Speaker 1: mentioned with Tom Ryman, called Gamefully Unemployed g A M

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Speaker 1: In fact, we almost exclusively do movie stuff and TV

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Speaker 1: and entertainment. Uh so, yeah, we have a podcast where

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Speaker 1: we go over the trailers of the week. We have

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Speaker 1: a review podcast where we watch a movie every week

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Speaker 1: It is a great podcast network. And hey, thank you

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Speaker 1: guys so much for joining me here enjoying the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and you leave me a review. I read every single

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Speaker 1: one of your reviews. Uh, and I won't lie to you.

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