1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Calf. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. I 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: am excited. We have much to cover. Yeah, and first 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: thing we're gonna talk. The first thing we're gonna do 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: is talk to Michelle Caukins of Lake Arrowhead as we enter. Wow, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: I think the snow started a week ago Wednesday. This 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: thing it's ten days. Yeah, it's about ten days since 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: the snow started, and they had at least eight feet 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: of snow. Some areas had more than eight feet and 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: most of it is still piled up on the ground 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of people are still stuck in the house. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: And Michelle Calkins went on Fox eleven last night and 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: was describing what it's like behind closed doors for some people. 14 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: So let's get her on here. Michelle, Hello, Well, what's 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: going on that we can't see? Well, I'm literally ending 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: on my roof right now shoveling snow off of it, 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: so I'll give you that visual. Is that safe? Um? Yeah, okay, 18 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: roos have been collapsing. I'm just demon here. Well, no, 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I mean the goal is to get the weight off 20 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: the roof. Plus now with the snowpack coming in with 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: the sun. It just melted. It makes it heavier and heavier. 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: So the more we can get off the roof, the 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: better build up a lot of ice, damns, et cetera. 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: It's just a disaster for later, all right, It's not 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: It should be slippery up there too, though, ain't it. Well, 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: it's weird. I can build a pretty good staircase. I 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: also have spiked um canes that I put on my shoes. 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, taking all the precautions. I heard you, guys, 29 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: um Yeah, day ten eight feet of snow, and it's crazy. 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: What's going on with people you know or or you've 31 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: heard from, because you described last night that people are 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: in a state of panic. Yeah, well we got thousands 33 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: and thousands of people trapped, roads not plowed. That's really 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: where the big panic sets in because it immediately traps you. 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been there, I'm here. This is actually 36 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: I got lucky. My road got plowed. I literally just 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: got back from the gas station to get gas to 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: fuel up the snowblowers so we can keep clearing as 39 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: much snow on our property as possible. But the snowed 40 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: in feeling is fear, constantly anxiety. We can't sleep. We've 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: been up all hours of the day, just you know, 42 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: in a panic. And medication people can't get their medication. 43 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Personal friends ran out of formula and we didn't know 44 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: what to do. What did they do? Well, so we 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: have all these emergency you know, we call nine one, 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: We have these emergency hot lines that we were told 47 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: to call. This was a few days ago. So when 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: that set in, I said, called this hot line. We 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: were given this number and the number they said, I'm sorry, 50 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: we can't help you. So at that point what happens 51 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: is the locals all turned to each other for help, 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: number or what we had to do, or how far 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: we had to walk, and other people caravanning medicine up 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: the hill and then walking in to deliver it and formula, 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: so the person dig the formula. Luckily, one of the 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: plows up here was able to get his way over 57 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: to that house. Are there people privately plowing? Is that 58 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing? Or yeah? There is? Yeah, we have 59 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: private plows. A lot of them can't get out though, 60 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: because everybody is trapped in their own house and so 61 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: unless you have a big loader, the bobcats were stuck. 62 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: The trucks with plows were stuck because what happened is 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: when the roads stopped getting plowed, let's say Thursday last week, 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: and it was already like four feet of snow, and 65 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: then we got that other surprise two feet on Monday, 66 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: so the roads were six feet deep and they don't 67 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: look like it in person. You're just kind of like, oh, 68 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: this seems doesn't seem that bad until you actually start 69 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: digging out, and then the reality sits in. You may 70 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: had shovel six feet of snow out of the way, 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: well sometimes you had to. Yeah, we've had no choice. 72 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but what is that like? I mean, because 73 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: you shovel into it and more of it collapses on you. Yeah. Yeah. 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: So the big thing that really got people emotional in 75 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: the morning was when you opened up the front door 76 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: and what you had shoveled the day before was back 77 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: and or even more from yesterday, and so you just 78 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of thought, oh my god, how's my front door 79 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: full of you know, another three feet of snow again, 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: and the drift coming off the roof made it worse. 81 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: So we might have gotten a two feet, but it 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: acted like four. So then you just start one scoop 83 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: at a time. And you just I think, right now, 84 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: it's all mental grid and it's it's like a superpower 85 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: we all gained because we we had to get out 86 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: of our front door and be able to have an 87 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: emergency tunnel built to the road for when the plows come. Yeah, 88 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the National Guard is supposedly making its way there. Right. 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen the National Guard or cal Fire or 90 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: any rescue crews. No, So I listened to the press 91 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: briefing release this morning. It was really good. A few 92 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: things I want to clear up with that is that 93 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: the National Guard is not coming. We shouldn't. They're having 94 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: um it's called the Rattlesnake Team, So it's like a 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: smaller it's a small group. It's not like we're going 96 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: to expect any military vehicles here. They're going to have 97 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: boots on the ground, like muscle power, man power with shovels, 98 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: which is actually exactly what we need because there are 99 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: people literally one hundred percent trapped in their house and 100 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I can talk about that. So just the expectation of 101 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: the National Guard. It's a small or scaled a bunch 102 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: of like fire crew, CalFire and stuff that have been 103 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: trained for these disaster in search and rescue situations, so 104 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: we should start seeing those people, because I heard it 105 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: sounded like they said they're gonna start going door to 106 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: door just checking on everybody, um and um really quick. Earlier, 107 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: you guys said, because I chimed it or listened then earlier. 108 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Just to make sure that everybody knows that the Jensens 109 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: supermarket in Blue Jay, as of right now, the ceiling 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: did not collapse. However it is sagging, so that store 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: is still closed down for us, so we are yeah, 112 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: they're down. Twice twice in the last few days that 113 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: store was reported to have collapsed, and then twice it 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: was corrected. But one collapse in christ lyon Goodwins collapsed. 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: Jensens is compromised, so in Blue Jay and now we're 116 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: only stuck with Scanner Brothers in like Girlhead, so we 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: have one grocery store on the entire you can't go 118 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: into Jensens. No, they read taped it all right, that 119 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: explains the report then yeah, wow, yeah, because I mean 120 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: I have a place up an Arrowhead and Jensen's is 121 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: the main story that I'd go to all the time, 122 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: and it is a long way to the next one 123 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: if you have to walk. Oh, Yeah, because the thing 124 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: is that people were walking to all of these stores 125 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: because you couldn't get out, so the only option was 126 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: to walk. And a lot of people once that snow 127 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: on the streets got up to four feet or six feet, 128 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: you were literally sinking to your waist or your chest, 129 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: so it was impossible for people to walk. That sounds scary, 130 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean imagine people panicking because it's like we're trying 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: to walk through quicksand yes, absolutely, you get stuck. You 132 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: actually can get stuck if you don't have another person 133 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: I to pull you out. You're kind of like, oh 134 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm literally stuck in this. So my husband 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: and I have snow shooed around town everywhere. Yeah, and 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: also feeling a claustrophobia if you're locked inside your house 137 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: and you've got eight feet of snow at the front door. 138 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: I could see people freaking out over that. Yes, So yesterday, 139 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you a crazy story. So as soon as 140 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: the sun came out, you know, we stopped a sigh 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of RelA So I was like, thank god, it has 142 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: finally stopped snowing. We can all breathe a little bit. 143 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: So we just kind of went into high gear and 144 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: we strapped on the snow shoes and some backpacks through 145 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: some food in it to go check on the neighbors. 146 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: And what we discovered is that there are many single, 147 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: solo people who are older, elderly that don't have the 148 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: capability to stubble the snow as it comes, and they're 149 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent traps. So we were literally knocking on 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: windows and communicating through the windows with people to ask 151 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: if they're okay, and so far everybody was they were okay. Yeah, 152 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: they all said they had food and they said they 153 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: were okay. And so I have tagged those houses personally 154 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: with the address numbers, just so that if and when 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: any official comes by, hopefully it's you know, a red 156 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: flag for them to like check on that home. All right, Michelle, 157 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much for talking to us and keep 158 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: us posted. We appreciate it. And good walk helping out 159 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: your neighbors. Stay safe on that roof, Yeah, don't slide 160 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: off that roof, okay, thanks? All right. That's Michelle Calkins 161 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: of Lake Arrowhead and she is currently on the roof 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: of her home shoveling the snow off so that it 163 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: doesn't create a problem with the roof collapse or anything 164 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: like that. But she's trying to put out the word 165 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: get more help here sooner, and she heard her just 166 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: say she actually checked on and there are it says 167 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: here there's eighty thousand full or part time residents in 168 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: the whole mountain community area roughly. Of course you have 169 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: a lot of tourists, but they're not necessarily there, and 170 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: then you have a people that rent aripn B homes 171 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so weekends at a time. Yeah, right, 172 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: all right, we got more coming up John and Ken 173 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: kf I AM six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 174 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 175 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: I AM six forty. No, we got more coverage coming up, 176 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: certainly later in the show on what's going on in 177 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: the sam Brodino Mountain communities with the heavy snow locking 178 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: people in their homes. Uh. Tim Donald's going to come 179 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: back on the show, of course, he lives up there, 180 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: and Blake Tolli for camf I News has made his 181 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: way up there too to get a firsthand look at 182 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: the progress being made to help dig people out. Meanwhile, 183 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: the mayor of Big Bear Lakes see there is there 184 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: are officials up there, John, I thought there was nobody. 185 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: But Big Bear does have its own government. Yes, yes, 186 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: so the mayor of Big Bear Lake is at it's 187 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Randall Putts. I'm not kidding Putz. I saw him on 188 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: TV the other night. Did you look like a Putts? 189 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Can you imagine what he's gone through in life? It's 190 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: too maybe he pronounces it differently. Did you did you 191 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: see pots? See? Yeah, I changed the nunciation. No, No, 192 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: I saw I saw. Alex Michaelson and Fox eleven have 193 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: to address him as Mayor Putts, which you know. I'm 194 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: sitting there giggling like a twelve year old. It's just 195 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: the way. You're right. The family should have maybe cleaned 196 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: up the name. You've got to do something about that. 197 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: He's telling everybody not to come up here. They call 198 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: it snow tourism. A lot of people are getting good 199 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: pictures from far away, obviously the snow on the mountaintops, 200 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: but there's other people that want to go up there 201 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: and see it firsthand because it's so dramatic. It's once 202 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: in a generation snowfall. They're calling it. They're saying, don't 203 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: do that, and I know people will. They want photo selfies. 204 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: But you know what, Yeah, you just make them sign 205 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: a paper at the bottom of the mountain. You're not 206 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: getting any help. You end up stuck in a snow drift, 207 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: or you get buried in an avalanche and said, we'll 208 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: see in May. Sign a paper. That's right, sign a paper, 209 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: give up all your rights. We're not going to spend 210 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: anybody or risk anybody else's life trying to find your 211 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: the remnants of your body. Closing. Yeah, they're closing the 212 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: entire San Bernardino National Forest, with just a few exceptions 213 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: in terms of personnel that may have to get up there. 214 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: Certain ski passes will still be good. I don't know 215 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: what those are. But it's closed until March sixteenth because 216 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: of all the snow and the damage. Because like a 217 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: lot of people like to up there and recreate, whether 218 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: they're hiking or whatever. You can't get up there either. 219 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: You know what, the people who like to run around forests, 220 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: there is nothing you can do to keep them out. 221 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: I have heard stories that even with the fires, and 222 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: you would have officials telling campers inside a forest where 223 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: fire is burning, you've got to go, and they'll resist, 224 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: or you try to block the entrance of the forest 225 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: right and keep cars out, and everybody gets mad, it 226 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: starts arguing with you. I even heard about a nude beach, 227 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: seriously nude beach where they closed it because it was 228 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: right near a standard trees there was a risk, and 229 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: the nude sters just parked down the road and ran 230 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: in through the back way. And I just think, you 231 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: know what, these people, Let them burn, let them get 232 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: smothered in snow. You know, if they don't want to listen, 233 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: then back with him. Well, because the attitude do you see. Oh, 234 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: government always overreacts, and government is stupid, and government tries 235 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: to be mommy. I can take care of myself. I'll 236 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: be fine. Oh. Oh, Mayor Puts is on the line. 237 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Oh geez, Mayor Randall Putts from Big Bear. Hello, Hi, 238 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: how are you? Oh? Well, are we apologize in advance? 239 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Why is that? Oh? We were having a laugh over 240 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: your name. Oh yeah, as my father says, no one 241 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: ever forgets our last name. Well, we're just talking about 242 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: what we mentioned you because you said, don't come up 243 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: here to people that might want to engage in some 244 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: snow tourism. Well, I asked for people to give us 245 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: a chance to get our house in order, because we're 246 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: still digging out and our central workers are still working 247 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: hard to get our roads cleared, to get fuel up here, 248 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: to get groceries up here, and it's still pretty rough 249 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: for us, and so we are not yet ready for visitors. 250 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: What about people that ski and all the key resorts, 251 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: how's that gonna work? Well, that's a challenge. I mean, 252 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: in a way, we've had a bit too much of 253 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: a good thing. I know, the resorts and all the businesses, 254 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: including my own, that rely on tourism, are a little 255 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: anxious right now. But it's not going to do anybody 256 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: any good if we get a flood of visitors and 257 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: it's mayhem and the roads get clogged, and then we 258 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: have much bigger problems. So I think in the long 259 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: term it's going to be better for us if we 260 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: do this in a measured way, consistent with the capacity 261 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: that we have. You have to keep in mind that, 262 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, we've gotten a huge amount of snowfall. I 263 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: just saw a video from our city manager group peering 264 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: around the town. Many streets are reduced to a single lane. 265 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: There's six foot high berms. Many people aren't even going 266 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: to be able to get to their homes or their cabins, 267 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: and there's no at a park. Are people trying to 268 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: get all the way to Big Bear? Yeah? People, you know, 269 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the snow is a magnet, and understandably it's it's it's 270 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: a magnet. But we were very vulnerable right now. There's 271 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: three highways in to our valley. Two of them are 272 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: closed and we'll be closed for the foreseeable future. One 273 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: had an avalanche. Just another avalanche just recently. Were nine 274 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: days before those Highway thirty. Highway thirty eight had an 275 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: avalanche recently that undid a lot of the work that 276 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: was done. Arctic Circle Highway eighteen coming up through the 277 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: three thirty, that's going to be many days before that's cleared. 278 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: So Highway eighteen, the back way down the Lucern is 279 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: our only access point right now. We're very vulnerable because 280 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: one accident can tie that up for hours or even days. 281 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: And people that have been up here any amount and 282 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: know that that that's the most windy and difficult road. 283 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: And we're just being real careful that we can avoid 284 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: ending up like Lake Arrowhead is and manage us as 285 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: best as we can, and we just need a bit 286 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: more time. I anticipate into next week. There's no reports 287 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: of any tragedies yet in all this, and I know 288 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: there's been some rescues not here in Big Bear Lake. 289 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: Now it's another story west of us. For the Lake, 290 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Arrowhead crest line area. You got less snow then we 291 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: did Arrowhead, which is odd because usually you get the 292 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: most snow on the mountain. Yeah, but that's that's the 293 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: nuance of these storms. I mean, they all have their 294 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: own character, and some places, even within our own valley, 295 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: can get, you know, twice as much precipitation as other 296 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: parts of the valley. That's just sort of the luck 297 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: of the draw when these things hit us. All right, Mayor, 298 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. We appreciate it. 299 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: All right, take care, guys, thank you. All right. That 300 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: is the mayor of Big Bear Lake, Randall Putts. Who 301 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: did he call in or did somebody reach out to him? 302 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: How did that happen? Ray reached out? Oh? Did Ray? 303 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: He's quick? All right? Yeah, they want to talk to 304 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: Mayor Putts right away. All right. We got more coming up. 305 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll continue to update you. We've got two 306 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: reports coming in the next couple of hours from the 307 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: mountain communities. John and Ken kf I AM six forty 308 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: live everywhere the iHeart Radio. You're listening to John and 309 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: Ken on demand from kf I AM sixty. Hey, how 310 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: we have an announcement to make on the John and 311 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Ken Show. I take it it's a good one. I 312 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: think so usually when the band plays, that's right, the 313 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: proof of Zella's come out. He's got the ball, he's 314 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: moving towards a goal. The Department of Water Resources went 315 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: out there and did its third snow survey of the 316 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: season today at a place called Philip Station, and there 317 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: was survey recorded one hundred and sixteen and a half 318 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: inches of snow death one hundred and sixteen and a 319 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: half And where is this station? I don't know. You 320 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: have to look it up. Philip Station. The story is coming. 321 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: But that's the Department of Water Resources in Sacramentos to 322 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: their press release. So I don't think it's there. I'll 323 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: give it a whole rundown. So that is a snow 324 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: water equivalent of forty one and a half inches, and 325 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: this is one hundred and seventy seven percent of the 326 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: average for the location on the date of March third. 327 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: And again, the snow water equivalent measures the amount of 328 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: water contained in the snowpack, and it's a key component 329 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: of the water supply forecast. It says here that although 330 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: the snowpack is currently just behind the record snow year 331 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty two nineteen eighty three, the snowpack is 332 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: varying considerably. The Southern Sierra snowpack is at two hundred 333 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: and nine percent of its April first average, Central Sierra 334 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five percent, and as they put it, 335 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: the critical northern Sierra where they get a lot of 336 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: the water for the reservoirs, is at one hundred and 337 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: thirty six percent of its April first average. It is 338 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: west of Lake Tahoe, west of Lake Talk. She had 339 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: the photo of these guys out there with their measuring sticks, 340 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: three guys in all blue jackets and little city hats, 341 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: doing it the way they did it a hundred years again. 342 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: One guy actually has a book that he's marking it down, 343 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: and the other two of the sticks. Yeah, so they're 344 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: going low tech. They got a stick and a book 345 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: and a pen. That's right, Well, why not book is 346 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: probably a hundred years old with all sorts of recordings 347 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: that I would have thought there's some like measurement gauges 348 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,719 Speaker 1: that automatically record, and some sophistically sophisticated technological transmits all 349 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: the information by satellites to a complex computer system. But 350 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: I guess it's three guys with a stick and a book. 351 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: They measure five media oriented snow surveys and Philip station 352 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: each winter, and you're the first of each month January 353 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: through April, and if necessary may so they'll do this 354 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: again on April third, and that they considered to be 355 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: kind of the end of what they call the wet 356 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: season by April third, the probably won't be much else coming, 357 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: so well, you really can't get much more snow than 358 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: we've had down here, at least however, of course, this 359 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: is the Department of Water Resources. The end of the 360 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: press release says please continue to use water wisely, John Cobelt, 361 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: and actually has your name in it. You know what, 362 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna open my hose up this afternoon and don't 363 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: do it in the room there just starts spraying, Oh 364 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: my gosh. Yeah, all right, now we move over to 365 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: another topic, which, oh, by the way, I meant to 366 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: tell you this time because we were just talking. Listener 367 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: set this story A guy set himself on fire on 368 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: the Berkeley campus Wednesday afternoon. Boy, how's that? And I 369 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: don't think it was a protest. I think it was 370 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: somebody in their twenties with mental issues. So it might 371 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: have been a vagrant who because actual video of the 372 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: guy walking around completely in flames, it's really bizarres. All 373 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: sorts of students standing there in the campus square and 374 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: they're just watching them. That's another walk by. Oh that's 375 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Tuesday in Berkeley. That's just another day. Is that guy 376 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: walking around on fire? Oh? Yeah, guy tweeted. Took my 377 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: son out of a recruitment visit for UC Berkeley football 378 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: and saw this guy after we got lunch, and he 379 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: sent out the video on Twitter. This guy walking around 380 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: on fire recruitment day. Do you think somebody well, some 381 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: people are trying. Oh, somebody's got a jacket on. Now 382 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: they're starting to douse some icy Yeah, he's just starting. 383 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: He finally stopped. He was running. You can't run when 384 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: you're on fire. I mean, yeah, I don't think he 385 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: really cares. Yeah, you shouldn't set yourself on fire to 386 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: begin with. Yeah, well, speaking of vagrants and the problems 387 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: that can occur, this is another example of what happens 388 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: when you tolerate and effectively normalize behavior like this. We 389 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: go back to Sherman Oaks where how many people john 390 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: have died on the streets of Sherman Oaks in the 391 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: last five in a particular neighborhood. Well, we thought this 392 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: was coming. A thirty five year old man who apparently 393 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: was lying down I think blanketed in an alleyway because 394 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: he was out of it. This is on January twenty fifth. 395 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: A city garbage truck was backing into the alleyway behind 396 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: Burbank Boulevard and Noble Avenue in Sherman Oaks and they 397 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: ran them over. Thirty five year old David Soto Torral 398 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: was killed. What we now have is a fifteen million 399 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: dollars wrongful death claim by his mother. He does, I mean, well, 400 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: this is million dollars they want. This is touchy here, 401 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it. If I had a son 402 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: who ended up laying in an alleyway whacked out on 403 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: drugs so that a trash truck can run him over, 404 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: no part of me would think that I deserved fifteen 405 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: million dollars from the city. All right, Something went wrong 406 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: with this guy on the home front, and and your 407 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: mother says. He was a skateboarder. He was doing well, 408 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: getting some sponsorships, but then he got hurt and he 409 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: got addicted to painkillers. He tells the story he was escaping. 410 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: He was building a career in the entertainment industry. She says, well, 411 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're lying in an alleyway in 412 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: Sherman Oaks, he's stubtly spaced out a bit if you're 413 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: building a career in anything. No, you're not building a career. 414 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: I hate to disparage your son, but really to make 415 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the tax payer's hand over fifteen million dollars, this is 416 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: a tragedy, but nobody should have to pay fifteen million 417 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: dollars because his life went off the rails. He was 418 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: spotted by a surveillance camera earlier in the day, apparently high, 419 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: sitting on a sidewalk in Burbank Boulevard and Struman Oaks. 420 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: So was she. Then hours later, eleven twenty am, he 421 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: was sitting in a nearby alley just minutes before Lapd 422 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: says the garbage truck backed up to empty to cans. 423 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: This actually happened to like eleven in the morning. Look 424 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: at this and the family has this. Attorney Robert Brennan 425 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: said there were five cameras on the trash truck to 426 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: guide the driver. He said, he's got three hundred and 427 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: sixty cameras on his truck. I guess he means a 428 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty degree sixty. Yeah, whatever happened that 429 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: led to this accident. He was not paying attention to 430 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: what was right in his immediate view. Oh stop it, 431 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, this is what I'm saying. That's 432 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: why I kicked u off by saying, if you normalize 433 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: and tolerate behavior, which is people lying in the street, 434 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: camped out, wasted and high, well now you're holding everybody 435 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: else responsible to make sure that nothing happens to them. 436 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: Everybody has to be paying attention to this. Listening. There's 437 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: gold have been any other driver. Listen to this, lawyer Brandon, 438 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: Robert Brennan. We don't think that fifteen million dollars is 439 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: out of the ballpark by a long shot. What is 440 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: the value of a human life, Well, it's not fifteen million, 441 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Brennan says. This man was very much a part of 442 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: multiple communities, the entertainment community, the skating community. Well where 443 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: were all those communities? Acham's laying by himself in the alley. Well, 444 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: the mother say as whenever he went off on an 445 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: addiction trip, she called it, he would want to not 446 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: be around people, so he would disappear. So you know, 447 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: he decides one day, this is my big high day, 448 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: and that's when he just kind of cuts off everybody, 449 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: disappears to the streets of Sherman Oaks. How much you 450 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: want how much you want to bet? This has been 451 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: going on for over a decade, thirty five. Now it's 452 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: a little late for a big skateboarding career at thirty five. 453 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: It's also pretty late to be building an entertainment career 454 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: as well, by by thirty five something that it ought 455 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: to be built by thirty five, you're done with skateboarding? 456 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Is this is just awful. That's why I'm afraid this 457 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: lawsuit succeeds. This is going to begin this kind of thing. Well, 458 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: you know what the city does, they settle this stuff. 459 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: There's nobody in the city who ever wants to go 460 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: to court and take any of this on. So that's 461 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: why again, homeless drug addicts are not responsible for their 462 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: own behavior, so we are so that's why you have 463 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: an attorney like Robert Brennan who's going to make out 464 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: landish claims. And I'm sure he's they're very emotional claims, 465 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: and you know if he goes to court, he's going 466 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: to be very passionate, in a booming voice and outraged 467 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: and it sensed and try to meniplate everyone into thinking 468 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: it's their fault. Well, that's gas lighting. It's nobody's fault. 469 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: It's this guy's fault. And if mom cared that much, 470 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been laying in the alley by himself. 471 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well when we come back, Yeah, you've really 472 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of nerve to want fifteen million dollars 473 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: from all the working taxpayers in the city. We're gonna 474 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: play for you a story of residents of Echo Park 475 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: Lake who do not like the idea that that fence 476 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: is coming down. We threw the council member in the 477 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: dumpster a couple of weeks ago. You go, Sotel Martinez, 478 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: you just took over that district from Mitchell Farrell and 479 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: wants the fence to come down because a lot of 480 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: the residents believe the vagrants will probably come back. We'll 481 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: hear what's in the story John and Ken KF I 482 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: am six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. You're 483 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: listening to John and Ken and the on demand from KFI. 484 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: Hang on a second, getting disconnected here. The attorney is 485 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: filing the fifteen million dollar lawsuit over the drug addict 486 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: that was run over by the garbage truck. He's gonna 487 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: get probably one third of that if the city settles 488 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: at that price. So Robert Brennan gets five million dollars. 489 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: So he's not making a case for the dead guy 490 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: or the dead guy's mom. Brennan is making the case 491 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: for himself to buy other house. And you're right, they'll 492 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: probably cave and settle. Yeah. Yeah, there's too much sympathy here. 493 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: So you know. I love you're on the hook. You're 494 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: a part of La City. That's your money to partial sanitation. 495 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: I love all these holier than thou outraged attorneys. They 496 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: should they should. They should always be forced to tell 497 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: everyone up front before they begin one of these public 498 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: speeches how much they're gonna make if they win. Most 499 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: of the time you get thirty to forty percent contingency fee. 500 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're continuing to keep an eye of course 501 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: on the San Bernardino Mountain communities have been affected by 502 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: these huge winter storms. They said that wow, they took 503 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: more than four hundred calls for aid, some of it 504 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: simply asking for baby formula, medicine things like that. So 505 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: hopefully by the time they dig all those people out, 506 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: they won't find any tragedies. That's really not what we 507 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: want to hear. But we'll have some guests coming up 508 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: on the show, Blake Trolleys up there. We're also going 509 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: to be talking once again to the former assembly member 510 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Tim Donnelly, who came on the show yeah the other day, 511 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: and he'll come back on before we're done at four o'clock. Well, 512 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: we're back on Vagrant Watch and this is a story 513 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: we followed since it became an utter neighborhood nuisance a 514 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: couple of years back. And that was a huge, huge 515 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: homeless encampment at Eco Park Lake and it was finally 516 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: cleared out in the year twenty twenty one. The council 517 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: member at the time, Mitchell Farrell, finally heard from residents 518 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: that we couldn't use the park because it's not clean 519 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: and it's not safe. I still remember how much disgusting 520 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: fecal bacteria they found in the actual lake there when 521 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: they finished cleaning up, because that's where a lot of 522 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: people were probably, oh dumping their loads. You know what, 523 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: they removed seven hundred and twenty three and a half 524 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: pounds of biological waste when they cleaned it up, seven 525 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three pounds of human faces. Oh. So 526 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: what was decided then was we'll put a fence up 527 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to try to keep people out. Now we have a 528 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: new council member, Hugo Soto Martinez, he wants the fence 529 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: to come down at the end of the month. Here 530 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: is an update in the story with interviews with residents. 531 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Fox eleven reporter Gina Silva. I can tell you many 532 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: people disagree with council Member Hugo Martinez. They don't want 533 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: this fence to be removed. The part is very well secure, 534 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: it's kept clean, and it's safe. Residents say a simple 535 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: chain link fence at Echo Park Lake has made a 536 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: huge difference in their neighborhoods. It looked like the way 537 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: it should be. It's the family park, and I think 538 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: kids are, you know, feeling like they could come to 539 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: a place they're not worried that they might find needles 540 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: in the ground playground. Nowadays, you'll find people taking a stroll, 541 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: getting a little exercise, enjoying the day at the park. 542 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: But just a couple of years ago, this is what 543 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Echo Park Lake looked like. It was filled with homeless encampments. 544 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: Neighbors say they witnessed fights, assaults, drug use, and vandalism. 545 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: In March of twenty twenty one, the encampments were removed. 546 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: Close to two hundred people were told they couldn't live 547 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: at the park, and the fence was then installed. The 548 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: concern is if the fence is taken down, we may 549 00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: find the same situation where we had the homeless encampments, 550 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: and that is a real threat, I think, to the 551 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: quality of life for the neighborhood. But council Member Hugo 552 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: Soto Martinez has announced the fence at Echo Park Lake 553 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: will be removed later this month. His office issued a 554 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: statement that says, in part, we don't have to choose 555 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: between helping our homeless neighbors and having safe, clean and 556 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: accessible parks. We will not let the dangerous conditions that 557 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: occurred at the park under our predecessor ever returned. No 558 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Pavierra Nonde who's lived in Echo Park for more than 559 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: twenty years, says he doesn't want the fence to be 560 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: removed because he fears it will be dangerous for his family. 561 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: What would you like to say to the councilman who 562 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: wants to take this fence down? No? Absolutely no facedown 563 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: fence down without any united this official leason. I don't 564 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: find any clear benefit for fence down. Nothing, but probably 565 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: later on. Residents are urging Soto Martinez to reconsider. They 566 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: would like the city to install a nicer looking fence 567 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: like the one at Lamert Park Plaza and several other 568 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: parks around Los Angeles. They say fences protect the property 569 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: because at the end of the night, the parks are locked, 570 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: preventing anyone from setting up an encampment. When a lot 571 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: of the Hill martinis, we are again the crime. I 572 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: think we deserve a safe neighborhood, and that's what we asked. 573 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's too much to us, the city councilmember. Yeah, 574 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and that's what we found out. That there were a 575 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: lot of migrants and migrant community there that use that 576 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: park because they didn't they were living like apartments, so 577 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: they enjoyed going to that park and recreating with their kids, 578 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: and that wasn't really possible when there was two hundred 579 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: people camped in there. You people who live in the 580 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: Echo Park area, you gotta understand, I don't know what 581 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: you're thinking when you elected Hugo Soto Martinez. Apparently a 582 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: lot of people once again, we're not paying attention. This 583 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: guy's remember the Democratic Socialists of America. He's not a Democrat. 584 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: He's not even a progressive. The DSA is connected to 585 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: anarchist groups. They're funded by very wealthy people who have 586 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: some weird fetish about undermining our way of life. You 587 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: could not believe me if you want, but you're going 588 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: to see what happens. Hugo Soda Martinez is a bad 589 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: guy to have as a councilman. Okay, he plans to 590 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: return that park to the vagrants. Trust me on this. 591 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: He who are correct because he's just like Mike Bonnen. 592 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: He's just like Nithia Rahman. They all tend to vote 593 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: the same way. Although Martinez is new to the council, 594 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: he's already voted against some enforcement. I think there was 595 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: the issue that came up a couple of years ago 596 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: over Tracy Park was asking to clean up some homeless 597 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: encampments at our district, and it was just a couple 598 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: of council people that voted no. He was one of them. 599 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: So he's of the same crowd in philosophy that we 600 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: have to provide for our neighbors and if we can't 601 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: find them shelter because they're Echo Park Lake people, then 602 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: they can hang out in that park. And you're right. 603 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: Even though this statement says we won't let the dangerous 604 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: conditions that occurred at the park under our predecessor ever returned. No, 605 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: don't don't believe anything. He writes all these guys are liars. 606 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: And the way he wrote that it's filled with weasel words. 607 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't say no one will ever be allowed to 608 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: live in a public space. Again, he doesn't say that 609 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: it's Joe, You're right, dangerous conditions and then what's your 610 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: definition of dangerous exactly? There is a lot of the 611 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: people portrayed that as a nice community there. You know, 612 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: they were sharing things. They were really not a real, 613 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: real family thing going on there. The Hugo Starto Martinez 614 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: did not think there were dangerous conditions when when the 615 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: original encampment was operating, don't don't let him use tricky 616 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: language that some public relations person wrote up to try 617 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: to fool people. They are out to fool you. He's 618 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: he's going to be the worst councilman you've ever had. 619 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: And that's saying a lot. And if you don't believe us, 620 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: you'll see you wait a year from now what it's 621 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: going to be like. Or you know, if he takes 622 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: down the fence, just wait, like a month from now, 623 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: what it's going to be like. Don't let that fence 624 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: ever go down. You've got to do whatever it takes 625 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: to keep that fence up or some other version of 626 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: the fence. Yeah, John's this Democrats socialist crowd, and this 627 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: is often common with these insane people who run for 628 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: local government. They really have bigger goals in mind. This 629 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: homeless thing he'd rather not even be bothered with. But 630 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: most of the way, he'll like Bonnin and NiFi Ramin, 631 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: leave it alone. They want to change America. They think 632 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: it's a horrible capitalist, imperialist, racist system and it's resulted 633 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: in this poor problem for the helpless homeless people. And 634 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: that's why there's too much sympathy and there'll be no enforcement. 635 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: And I think you're right. Taking the fence down is 636 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: the first step to reopening the park to viagrance. Christopher 637 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: Ruffo is a writer we've had on the show a 638 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: number of times, and he first did a lot of 639 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: reporting from Seattle with the anarchist uprising up there, ANTIFA, 640 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: and he has written publicly that ANTIFA is the paramilitary wing. 641 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: Let me say this right, that ANTIFA is the paramilitary 642 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: wing of the Democratic Socialists of America. So that's squadron 643 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: of anarchists that you see. And they wear the black 644 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: masks and the black body suits and black gloves, and 645 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: they've got weapons, and they create mayhem at public events. 646 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: They're very violent, they're very frightening. They're connected to the DSA, 647 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: and Hugosta Martinez is a member of DSA. That's what 648 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: has infiltrated the Los Angeles City Council. There's now three 649 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: of them, all right, We got more coming up. John 650 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: and Ken kf I AM six forty live everywhere, the 651 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio app and Deborah Mark Live in the twenty 652 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: four hour CAFI Newsroom. 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