1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Hey, this is any and Samantha holcovery stuff. I never 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: told you a production. If I heard you. 3 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Peek behind the curtains, I've already messed up this episode 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: one or twice. So hey everybody. So we have always 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: said specifically about this segment of feminists around the world 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: that we want to make sure we are giving flowers 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: to those who are making a difference that are with 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: us still, but we don't want to wait till it's 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 2: too late and not recognize what they have been doing 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 2: or what they are doing. And that includes our very 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: own people. So for Pride Month, we wanted to highlight 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: one of your and my favorite hosts. Any should I 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 2: say your last name? I typically don't. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Any rees thank you? Yeah, that's r. 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 2: And You've been so gracious to share your story when 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: it comes to discovering your identity and like hashing out 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: some of the things that you have worked through and 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: just sharing it with so many And I know, like listeners, 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: you're right there with me when you say thank you 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: so much, because a lot of it has really really 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 2: resonated with you, and you felt like being you felt 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: like you just were seen because they have stories like you. Annie, 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: and again like one of those things that you really 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: discovering yourself in real time with me and the listeners. 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: So I thought, you know, we need to talk about 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: you as a feminist activist because as you are doing 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: this with so much vulnerability and openness, you are doing 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: some of the amazing work for the queer people LGBT, 29 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: QUI A plus peoples. And first and foremost, give you 30 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: those flowers and say thank you, but also check in 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: with you, and I highlight you for feminists around the world. 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: So first and foremost, let's check in. How are you? 33 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: How are you celebrating this fabulous month. 34 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm nervous, nervous to be the highlight. I will be 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: honest with you. I've been really busy, and you are 36 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the one that has planted in this in me, this 37 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: idea I need to celebrate and I should. You're right, 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I have just been going about my life and I 39 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: barely know what time it is anymore. I went home 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: for the first weekend of June, so I haven't yet, 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: but I will, and I do have a trip coming 42 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: up as an end of June, and I think i'll 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: I'll try to make that a big blowout. I'll bust 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: out my Ace shirt and all those things. But yeah, 45 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't celebrated yet. I will say, Okay, 46 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: it's coming. It was common Toad, you a cupcake or 47 00:02:59,440 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: a cake. 48 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: I know you've been more and more open to talking 49 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: about your self discovery with lots of people, and not 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: just our listeners, even though like you don't have to, 51 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: but you do in some of this. Some of those 52 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: people include your family. How has that been for you? 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: And can you give advice to our listeners who may 54 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: be in a similar journey, especially on how to be 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: both vulnerable but at the same time I being able 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: to guard yourself. 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is something we've talked about a lot. 58 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: It can be really difficult when it's we're in this 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: field that we're in, or you're just somebody who believes 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: really strongly or passionately about something about LGBTQ plus rights 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: or intersexual feminism or whatever. It can be really hard 62 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to find the line of that. I will say, I'm 63 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: generally really lucky in that my immediate family obviously most 64 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: of my closest friends are cool, I'll all say. But 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: even with that, because it's been like it's in a 66 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: book that I wrote about coming out and it's this 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: this podcast I talked about it. It's like out there. 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: And so now that kind of line of maybe I 69 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: don't want to say something right now is gone. It 70 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: feels like it's gone because they know and that I 71 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: think a lot of us can relate to that, whether 72 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you have podcasts or you're open about it or not. 73 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: But it just feels like there's almost a strange and 74 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people can relate on maybe 75 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: not even being queer, but on similar things. It's a 76 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: strange like head turning that happens to me now, where 77 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: if something about LGBTQ plus stuff comes up, people turn 78 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: and they look at me, and so it's sort of 79 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: a it's a you know, and I hate it because 80 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: I do like talking about it and I am passionate 81 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: about it, and a lot of times it's fine, but 82 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you never know that initial head turn moment. You don't 83 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: know right. And so there's been a bit of that 84 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: and a bit of like honestly, really genuinely, people want 85 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: to know more and do better, and I appreciate that, 86 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: but I'm still I still feel kind of like a baby. 87 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing my best and I'm reading 88 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: what I can, but I still feel like a like 89 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: straight passing baby. So it's sort of and we talked 90 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: about this in our recent Sex in the City episode. Yeah, 91 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: funnily enough, but it's not like you suddenly get all 92 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: the answers right when you come out and that there 93 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: isn't sad divisions within the LGBTQ plus can Ny itself. 94 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: So I have felt I feel better about that, but 95 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm still nervous. Like when I go to a Pride event, 96 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm still nervous, so I'm like, oh, what if they 97 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: don't think I should be here? So that's been that. 98 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: It's also funny because we've talked about this before too. 99 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: A lot of the backlash around Pride months from people 100 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: who don't think it should exist is that it's like 101 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: it draws too much attention. I really don't want that 102 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: much attention, but it's like, but it feels like you're 103 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: looking at me with your head turn right. So it's 104 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: just been interesting to adjust to that part, I think. 105 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: But almost everyone's been really supportive and genuinely wants to 106 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: learn more. 107 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it funny because when people are like 108 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: they're shoving it in our faces outside of the fact 109 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: that I purposely follow people that are like LGBTQIA plus 110 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: or the fact that my algorithm has it because I 111 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: purposely watch these things. You can absolutely not know or 112 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: pay attention to any of this really easily, which is 113 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: like unfortunate for you, because this is great stuff and 114 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: these are some amazing people, and like being a part 115 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: of a celebration that celebrates people's love and life should 116 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: be a thing. But the fact that people are so 117 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: pressed about this because they're like they're shoving it though 118 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 2: they're not, They're just existing. This is the weirdest thing 119 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: because they have one parade you're really upset, which you 120 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: could just stay home and I was at home or me. 121 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: They have rainbow flags, which you used to love rainbows. 122 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: It's just a rainbow flag. Get over it. And you 123 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: don't have to buy it. That's the other part of that. 124 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: You don't have to buy any of these things. So 125 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand how it's shoved into your face. 126 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, either, because again, I'd be perfectly happy living my 127 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: life never talking about with my homophobic family members of 128 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: this mean specifically, I'll stand up, but I'm I don't 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: feel like I'm shoving it down your road exactly. 130 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: Existing is not shoving it down your throat. You're just hating, 131 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: end of the point. And I was just going to 132 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: ask you just the top of your head, but you 133 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't do research mode on those because you are you 134 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: and I love you for it. Uh, there's been so 135 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: much going on when it comes to queer policies or 136 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: anti queer policies and anti lgbtqy policies, plus what are 137 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: some things that you think we should be paying attention to. 138 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because before this you were like, I 139 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: didn't really mean to make this into research for you, 140 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: and it really wasn't. It really wasn't. I've been thinking 141 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: about this. I have some other episodes like on my mind, 142 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: but it is something where I feel, again going back 143 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: to that point, like I have to provekay. I'm like, see. 144 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: Oh you oh you're by prove it? 145 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to prove it? Oh no, yes, yes, But 146 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: that's that's like my own baggage. And I think a 147 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: lot of people have it for one thing or another, 148 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: but I but I legitimately I have been looking into 149 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: this for just as a person, but also as episodes 150 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: that are coming up, but okay. So, as of May 151 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty twenty four, the ACLU is tracking five 152 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen anti LGBTQ bills in the US. They 153 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: have a really cool graphic and you can click on 154 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: every state and see what they are. From the Washington Post, 155 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: the UN Human Rights Committees review into the state of 156 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: human rights in the United States the first and nine 157 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: years express concern quote at the increase in the number 158 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: of state laws that severely restrict the rights of persons 159 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: on the basis of their sexual orientation our gender identity. 160 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: A post analysis of FBI data published in March found 161 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: that hate crimes in schools have risen sharply in recent years, 162 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: with the starkest impact in states where LGBTQ plus students 163 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: face restrictive laws, and last year, Canada issued a warning 164 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: to queer people thinking of traveling to the US. So 165 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty bad, honestly, A lot of times when I 166 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: go to Pride events, that's one of the things I 167 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: think of. Once again, not unique to gay people, but 168 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: it is something that I think of. I will say, 169 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: as our recent classics have indicated local politics are so important, 170 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: so I would say keep an eye on that we 171 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: were talking about libraries and curriculum that are banning queer material, 172 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: among a bunch of other things that is really detrimental 173 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: to us. So many times on the show, I've said 174 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: I wish I had this as a kid, and they 175 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: always act like it's like, oh, well, it's turning you gay. No, 176 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: it's helping you, like realize, it's like giving you a 177 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: voice to a thing you feel. 178 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: Just the level of like ignorance, it's turning you gay. 179 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: He's like, yeahs not how that works, but you do you. 180 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Boo, No, it's not at all. And so that that's 181 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: been that's been on the Rise. We talked about that 182 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: in our episode on the Rise in band books. We 183 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: talked about that in genderquer which is our book club 184 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: pick for Pride Month last year, still the most banned 185 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: book in the United States. So I think that's really important. 186 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: If you can support your local libraries, uh not. You know, Unfortunately, 187 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: as with many things you're going to talk about, it's 188 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: not like all libraries are great. But yeah, if you 189 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: do your research and it seems like a good library, 190 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: then support your local library elections. I know people are 191 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: tired about hearing about it. I know it's frustrating. I 192 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: hear you, I hear you. But there are so many 193 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: elections that are really leaning into kind of this anti 194 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: LGBTQ plus thing. There's one in Missouri where the whole 195 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: slogan is don't be weak and gay. The Colorado Republican 196 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Party is calling for people to burn the Pride flag 197 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: at the start of Pride Month, which like, if you 198 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: buy the Pride flag, that kind of makes me laugh, 199 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: But okay, do you yeah, spend that money? All right? 200 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: From Axios quote as Pride Month begins Saturday, Floridians will 201 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: notice a bvid difference. Instead of casting rainbows bridges around 202 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: the state, we'll only light up in red, white and blue. 203 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: The Dasantus administry, which issued this year's ban on rainbow lights, 204 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: is calling it Freedom Summer. Yeah cool? Correct? 205 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: What? 206 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: And that was of a really interesting article from Maxios 207 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: about how Florida became one of the most anti LGBTQ 208 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: plus states, and it had this other quote. Some trans 209 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: people and their families have relocated to more accepting states. 210 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Others have turned to crowdfunding platforms like gofund me hoping 211 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: to do so, which is just tragic and I hate 212 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: it for a lot of reasons. But one of the things, 213 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: and I know we have this conversation with Bridget forever 214 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: go off mic, but one of the things that breaks 215 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: my heart about this is if people leave, then it's 216 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: going to get like more staunch, right, But I also 217 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: can't blame you for leaving me. 218 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: That's and for those who can't afford to leave, they're 219 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: stuck with the even more staunch is such a bad 220 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: level of like it, how do you cut this circle? 221 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you don't want to be 222 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: at Texas as a great example of what's happening, and 223 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: people are really like, maybe this is not is we 224 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: need to go. We need to go, And it became 225 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: more and more not because everybody's leaving, but those who 226 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: can are leaving, and then those who are stuck are stuck, 227 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: and it's kind of one of those lamboles. And then 228 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: with that, with a little more increase in power, they 229 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: get more power by jerrymandering into a bigger situation, which 230 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: is exactly what's happening in a lot of the different states. 231 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: And we know jerium mandering happens in both routes, but 232 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: we've seen it like in this tenfold of like what 233 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: is the silly squiggly line that you've made into a 234 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: district that and then it separates a little bit. It's 235 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: like an exclamation point. How is this one district? And 236 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: that's because you know, like it's become that level. But 237 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: the fact that this is a continued level of power. 238 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 2: And I said to our listeners in Texas, we know, 239 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: like people, things are shifting in Texas. Don't get me wrong. 240 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: I think things have kind of shifted in Florida. We've 241 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 2: seen the different candidates who are like flipped a few 242 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: parties and I'm like, all right, go ahead, But in 243 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: this level also of like this feels even more so 244 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: like choosing the lesser evil. 245 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that article that I just mentioned, they said 246 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: it's turning in Florida slowly, but surely, or at least 247 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: this year. It doesn't seem to be as a big 248 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: People aren't so into this, like right, anti gay agenda. 249 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 2: Right, They're starting to realize, oh, this doesn't make us 250 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: much sense. I think when they started going after Disney, 251 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, and there you're hurting our pockets, right, 252 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: and my fun this is not this is you. You 253 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: did not include this as a part of you are 254 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: we have to hate people, right? 255 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, that's just something we'll probably come back 256 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: and have a bigger conversation about that. But and that 257 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: leads into we talked about this all the time, but 258 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: a big thing to keep an eye on is anti 259 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: trans walls and rhetoric. Recent polling has found that support 260 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: of the queer community has gone up in the US 261 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: except for trans people, where it's gone down, right, and 262 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: that like if you think it doesn't matter when people 263 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: just say politicians just say things, or people just say things, 264 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: it does right, and it's dangerous. 265 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: And this is like the modern day example of white 266 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: feminism when they were like, yes, we want feminism, but 267 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: mainly if you if the black women don't get it, 268 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: that's okay, we're gonna work on us first. That's kind 269 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: of the same LGBTQ like ideal where they leave out 270 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: the tea in that Okay, but we're gonna work on 271 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: this first and then we'll come back to you and 272 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: like no, no, no, you need to reverse that because 273 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: what you're seeing is that the most marginalized will continue 274 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: to stay marginalized and not everyone will be free. As 275 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: where if you start with the most marginalized, everyone will 276 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: be free. Like it's kind of like, yeah, and this 277 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: is that real life translation that we're seeing. 278 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you look at the laws, a lot 279 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: of them are specifically aimed towards trans people, right, and 280 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: going along with that, like, I would just keep an 281 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: ear out for weaponized use of terms like grooming and 282 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: pedophiles when it comes to gay folks, because I'm seeing 283 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: it more normalized now. 284 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: And it's, oh you are that's interesting, I'm seeing it. 285 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it used to be more like wink wink, 286 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And now it's much more 287 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: We've just become more polarized in general as a society. 288 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: I think it's definitely this level of like fantasy versus 289 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: reality again. What we talked about what grooming looks like 290 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: and who is actually being groomed and who are actually 291 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: being trafficked. And we just had this conversation with Bridget 292 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: when it came to like Playboy magazine and like they're 293 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 2: actually a great example of like who you want to 294 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: see as victims and so would that they also want 295 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: to say who they want to see as the perpetrators. 296 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they I can't. I feel like you're the one 297 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: who can't you can't stop talking about that. 298 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: There's a thing of like, the many arrests that I've 299 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: seen have typically been one who's like group of people 300 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: and they are your friends. 301 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: Ruh, Yeah, that's a good point of Yeah. 302 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: Rarely have I ever seen No, I don't think there 303 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: has been any conversation of trans person being a groomor 304 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: like into that level of like, don't get me wrong, 305 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: grooming happens all over the place, and we know that 306 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: things happen, but when it comes especially with trafficking, you're like, 307 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: and once again, I do not see a drag wing 308 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: up in this thing. 309 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but they love to talk about it and 310 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: act like that's the case, and that's the terminology they use, 311 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: and it's incredibly har hardful, and people have been attacked. 312 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: So I think that's something to keep an eye out 313 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: for if you want to see some bombastic language. I'm 314 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: going to come back and talk about this for my 315 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: happy hour, I think. But the Queer Planet documentary that's 316 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: coming out, the number of people in my life who've 317 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: told me you can't be gay. Animals aren't gay, and 318 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: now they have this documentary that's like gay Animals, which 319 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: I haven't seen, so who knows. It could be terrible. 320 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: But now they're like this is propa good. H Like, well, 321 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: you've been telling me my whole. 322 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: Life you're doing this thing, so you do you b. 323 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I love that you compare me to an animal. Thanks 324 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: also if. 325 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 2: You want to go into that, and we lived in 326 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: that whole leg like some of the women kill the 327 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: men and then they keep on perpetuating and maybe we 328 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 2: should do something. Is that the theory can a defense? 329 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: Which what is it? 330 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And then like I have a lot of 331 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: religious they're not friends, but they're like on my periphery. 332 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: And the whole thing with the Pope really blew up 333 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: recently where he said some pretty dad things, yeah about 334 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: gay people behind doors, and he's been like progressive for 335 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. But they definitely took that as a win. Okay, 336 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: international stuff, listeners, please write in and let us know 337 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: because this is mostly US based. I have read stuff 338 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: that's going on that isn't great around the world, but 339 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: I found some good news as well. More than thirty 340 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: countries have now legalized gay marriage on the federal level. 341 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: In the US, several protections have been upheld are put 342 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: in place, and just because I had to look going 343 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: back to that ACLU map quote. In Georgia, every proposed 344 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: anti LGBTQ plus bill was defeated, including bills related to 345 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: marriage schools and drag performances. And I read some of 346 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: them and they were like, what entries. 347 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's from like the Marjorie Taylor Green Playbook 348 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: to making the most extreme as possible, so knowing that 349 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: you won't win, but you can say you did that 350 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: and you are a champion of conservative families. 351 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: That is. There's a lot of things, a lot of 352 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,719 Speaker 1: things I don't like about American politics, but one of 353 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: them is that posturing. I hate that agreed, agreed. 354 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: But I'm glad to know that it's been a shutdown. 355 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Come on, Georgia, we're getting. 356 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: There slowly, slowly anyway. 357 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: There's a lot of other things that's not hood but slowly. 358 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: So with that, thank you for all. It's like all 359 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: that research because I was like, oh no, I just 360 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: meant for you to share old Okay, okay, but of 361 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: course I should have known any I thought about taking 362 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 2: that question off. 363 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm like, she's gonna end. 364 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: Up working a lot on this, but from your first 365 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 2: episode of coming out to to today, do you feel 366 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: like you've progressed in your learning about yourself and how 367 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 2: you're communicating it and telling your story and even like 368 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: what you've learned and like maybe this is the part 369 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: that I'm like you not that you wish you could 370 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: take back, but now that you know, you're like, these 371 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: are the things that maybe I would have filtered out 372 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: or not or things that you wish you would added before. 373 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's when I look back, it was 374 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: it was such a like bright shiny revelation. But on 375 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: the flip side, I was so scared. I was so 376 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: vulnerable and I felt so scared about it, and I 377 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: felt like it wasn't right or could be this problem 378 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: or this problem or trying to explain it away, and 379 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: then I felt like I don't belong in the queer community. 380 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: And then I had a lot of doubts. But it 381 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: was exciting, Like it was really like it felt right, 382 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: even if I was worried other people wouldn't see it 383 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: that way, Like I was going back and thinking about 384 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: what my axes would think. Why. But now I feel 385 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: much more settled in it. I still have moments of 386 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. Fear might be too strong a word, 387 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: but I still have moments of like, I don't know 388 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: how people might judge me or something like that. I 389 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: have moments where i run into someone who does judge me, 390 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of shocked because I'm in my bubble 391 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: that is wonderful and nice, but I forget it's not 392 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: like that if I go outside of that sometimes, and 393 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: for a while, I just was so worried people would 394 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: think like, oh, she's a sad single woman. And now 395 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, I don't care if you want 396 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: to think that I'm good. So I think a lot 397 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: of it has been I've just sort of settled into 398 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: it and I'm happy with it. It doesn't have the 399 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: same kind of bright excitement did at the beginning. It's 400 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: more just like, Yeah, that's that's what it is. That's 401 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: my personality. 402 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Where you're you're becoming a senior than this and that 403 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: you said, I still feel like your baby. But at 404 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: the same time you realize all these things, which was 405 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: a big deal, but you're like, but this makes sense 406 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: and it's my life. Yeah, I'm cool with this. And 407 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: the fact that the people who loved you the most 408 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: are like, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Things were telling us. 409 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty much been the reaction, and it's been 410 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: like one of the best reactions I could have ever asked. 411 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 2: Here's some gloves I bought you, which was my old mama. 412 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, baby, bisexual, let me get you 413 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: some colors. Yeah, I'm old anyway. Uh And with that, 414 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: of course, do you have any organizations that you would 415 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: like to highlight for us listeners so we can also 416 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: be uh an ally in this journey. 417 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: Yes, it comes with an unfortunate disclaimer that I think 418 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: we all know. I always do your research first, because 419 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: there's some organizations that, like you think are good and 420 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: you find something out later, are they change? They can 421 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: make amends. But in point, if I say something in here, 422 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: if I shout out someone in here and you know 423 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: that they've done something that's not great, because I hate that. 424 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: It's true. But as I said, there is in finding 425 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: and judgment within the queer community as well, right, so. 426 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: Also there's greed and. 427 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely anything, yes, please please let me know. Because 428 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: I was definitely supporting an organization that I later found 429 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: out not so great. 430 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: Write I did the same and I was like oh 431 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: he stole all the money. 432 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh well damn. Yes. So I always get kind of 433 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: nervous doing this, but but these these are some that 434 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: came to mind. I will say, like, if you need resources, 435 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: you can reach out to us, and I have some 436 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: that I have some very like asexuality specific ones just 437 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: for information, but there are a lot for however you 438 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: may identify or your sexual orientation. Again, do your research 439 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: because there can be misinformation and disinformation. But if you 440 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: if you want any of that, you can reach out 441 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: some organizations. I'm going to start with two of the 442 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: big ones that like people know, but I'm going to 443 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: shut them out glad because we use them all the 444 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: time in research and so personally thank you. But they 445 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: do a lot of like media studies around the LGBTQ 446 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: plus community. The Trevor Project, which is about suicidality and 447 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: suicide prevention within the queer community. Snack Coo, which was 448 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: started in Atlanta, Yeah I did not know, which is 449 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: about specifically trans black people, but queer people in prison 450 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: and getting like stopping that pipeline and fixing helping to 451 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: fix that. Transgender Law Center, and Immigration Equality, which is 452 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: about things like refugees and making sure that they have 453 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: their rights and the things that they need. 454 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 455 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, those are awesome. 456 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for letting me put you on 457 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 2: the spot. Just so y'all know, I did give her 458 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: a heads up and ask her first before we will 459 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 2: come at me, would you make her do this? I 460 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: know I'm cool, but again, we are all about wanting 461 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: to share and be vulnerable with you, as well as 462 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: the fact that we are all about wanting to give 463 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 2: flowers to you and acknowledge that you are a feminist 464 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 2: activist around the world and we love you for what 465 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: you do, your vulnerability, just for being you and existing 466 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 2: and loving us enough to trust us with who you are. 467 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: So an we celebrate you. Happy Pride month. I'll bring 468 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: you okay sometimes soon, I swear to God. Thank you 469 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: and honestly listeners. If you have a story about your 470 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: own coming out or just being vulnerable or just learning 471 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 2: about your identity as well, like I know you have 472 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: written to us before, especially to Annie, to thank her 473 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: for her journey and relating to her and or advice 474 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: giving our advice about your own coming out, and you 475 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: want to share your story and you want us to 476 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: share with for you, please do we would we love 477 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: listener mill Yes, and we would love to feature that 478 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: on a feminist activist around the world because you existing, 479 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: unfortunately and the agent time like this and you being 480 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: who you are is a form of activism. That doesn't 481 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: mean unfortunately as in like you existing, but unfortunately that 482 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: sometimes being who you are can come out a cost 483 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: and we know that, we know that, we see that 484 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: and we love you for who you are. So if 485 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: you have a story, let us. 486 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Know, yes. And thank you to you, Samantha for being 487 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: so supportive as I've done, as I've figured this out 488 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: for the cake part, Auntie. 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