1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo? Standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Hollywood Land, the Rap Party. What's good Your 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: movie geeks, your true crime freaks just like me? You 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: guys love your movie history, served up with a side 8 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: of grit and grime. This, of course, is the place 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: where we dig up the stories often lost to history, 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: buried there in the corner of the cutting room floor, 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: the stories they didn't want told, the very same ones 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: that have now made you the most dangerous person at 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: the party. I'm your host, Zeth Lundy, writer, showrunner, and 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: good doctor here at Double Elvison. Today in the hollywood 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Land Rap Party, we are talking about some of the greatest, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: uncompromising risk takers in the history. We're talking movies that 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: broke your impressionable minds as kids. Plus this week's full 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: episode subject Dennis Hopper, and so much more, including your voicemails, 19 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: your texts, and your emails. So come on, everybody, let's party. Okay, guys, 20 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: I got some bad news to bring to you at 21 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: the top of the show. Here, we apparently suck as 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: prognosticators when it comes to the Academy Awards. Okay, we 23 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: went as a collective team here. We went two for 24 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: six when it comes to the Big Six Awards this 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: past weekend. In our predictions, you know what I'm talking about. 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Oscar poll we ran in our Patreon. 27 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: That's our disgraced land all Access Patreon for members over there. 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Last week here in the Rap Party, I went through 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: our top picks for each of the six major categories. 30 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: So what did we get right? Well, we got Best 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: Actor and Best Actress right, and that's it. Michael B. 32 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: Jordan and Jesse Buckley for Sinners and Hamnett respectively. We 33 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: got those right. I'm not sure if you saw this, 34 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: but Michael B. Jordan pulled a Paul Giamatti. Afterwards he 35 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: went to the In and Out Burger to celebrate his win. 36 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: He loved to see that. But guys, we choked in 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: all the other categories. We said Delroy Lindo was gonna 38 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: win for Supporting Actor. That went to Sean Penn, who 39 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: was not there, by the way, And I must say, 40 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: our guy Delroy was not looking too happy there for 41 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: about five seconds. After they announced the artist formerly known 42 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: as Madonna's Bad Boy as the winner, we also said 43 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Woomi Masaku was gonna win for Best Supporting Actress, but 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: that went to Amy Madigan, better known around my household 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: as Shenie Koboloski from Uncle Buck, of course, winning for 46 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: her performances Unt Gladys in Weapons. She was there with 47 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: her guy Ed Harris. I got to love those two. 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: This is like one of my favorite Hollywood couples because 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: you don't see this kind of thing in Hollywood much. 50 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: They've been married for over forty years since the early 51 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, and that's pretty rare and pretty dope. So 52 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: big ups to Amy and Ed. Great actors, great people. 53 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Ed Harris, for one, donated a lot of money to 54 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: the Art Center here in Waterville Main. The box office 55 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: at the movie theater there is named for him in 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: that is named for him for that honor. Real mench 57 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: that guy, I mean, I imagine that's I don't know how 58 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: their money works. I would imagine that that's Amy Madigan's 59 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: money too. Maybe they have separate I don't know. Maybe 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: that's how they made it work all these years, they've 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: got separate, separate bank accounts. I don't know, but it's 62 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: just Ed Harris got all the he got all the 63 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: love for the donation. But I got to think that 64 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Amy Madigan has something to do with that too, right, 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. Back to the Oscars, we fucked that 66 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: one up. Okay, we also fucked up Director and Best Picture. 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: We went all in on Sinners. We said Sinners was 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: going to win Best Picture. We said Ryan Coogler was 69 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: going to win Best Director. But one battle after another 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: and Paul Thomas Anderson were the winners, which is all good. Honestly. 71 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: This was the first Academy Awards in a long time 72 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: where I was just I was a big fan of 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: just about all the major films that were nominated. I 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: saw the majority of them, and I think that, you know, 75 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: the two bigger, biggest winners here centers in one battle. 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: They were both deserving for different reasons. I think they're 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: both going to go down as major works in the 78 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: history of films specifically and how they were both able 79 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: to be both artistically engaging and cutting edge while also 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: pleasing as mainstream movie going experiences. I think it's easier 81 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: to be just an arty FARTI type or just a 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: popcorn Jerry Bruckheimer type. But to find that sweet spot 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: where you can be both simultaneously. I mean, that's the 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: These are the kinds of movies that remind me how 85 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: much I love movies. And speaking of love, I think 86 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm in love with Leonardo DiCaprio's mustache. I think it 87 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: was the most compelling part of the entire night, of 88 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: the entire Oscars broadcast. I think we need to study it, honestly, 89 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: just to see what the Seriously, though, I did love 90 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: his mustache, but I got off track there for a minute. 91 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: Woof that mustache. Speaking of love, though I thought there 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: was a lot of it being shared during the ceremony. 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: I really liked PTA's acceptance speeches, including his speech for 94 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: Best Picture, in which he recalled the Best Picture nominees 95 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: for the year nineteen seventy five, fifty years ago. This 96 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: is something we talked about a little bit while back 97 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: here on the show, but he reminded everyone that the 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: Best Picture nominees for that year where One flew over 99 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 1: the Kuko's Nest, Nashville Jaws, Dog Day Afternoon and Barry Lindon. 100 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: All of them masterpieces, none of them quote unquote better 101 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: than the others. They know they're all worthy of celebrating 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and lifting up. And to this end, you see my 103 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: rant from last week about how giving awards to art 104 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: is just done. You know what else is dumb about 105 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the Oscars. They only gave Dennis Hopper two nominations during 106 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: his lifetime. Dennis Hopper, the guy who gave the counterculture 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a voice at the box office with The Easy Rider, 108 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and by doing so arguably opened the door wider than 109 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: anyone else when it came to independent and fringe filmmakers 110 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: quote unquote new Hollywood as the sixties gave way to 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: the seventies, perhaps even more so than someone like John Cassavettes. 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: And I'm talking impact wise in terms of working within 113 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: the Hollywood system, not working outside of it, although Dennis 114 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: Hopper's own stubbornness, to put it nicely, got him booted 115 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: from within that system pretty quickly. But Hopper was only 116 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: nominated twice. He was nominated for Screenplay for an Easy 117 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: Rider in nineteen sixty nine and then for Best Supporting 118 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: Actor for Hoosier's in nineteen eighty six, but he got 119 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: no Love for Blue Velvet, or Apocalypse Now, or The 120 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: American Friend or True Romance, or River's Edge, or for 121 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Out of the Blue, his third time in the Director's seat, 122 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: and a movie incidentally, which I'll be talking about on 123 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Friday here in the screening Room. Hopper died back in 124 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: twenty ten at the age of seventy four, but sixteen 125 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: years later he remains with us in the ether in 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: a way that few other actors who have passed on 127 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: are able to do. He has just recently been posthumously 128 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: featured on the latest album by Gorillas that's the two 129 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: D virtual band conceptual project thing created by Damon Albern, 130 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: a blur and the comic book artist Jamie Hewlett. On 131 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: their latest album The Mountain, which I talked about last week. 132 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: I think in the recommendation section you can hear Dennis 133 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: Hopper on the opening title track, and what you're hearing 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: is an unused vocal take that Damon Albern recorded way 135 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five for the track fire 136 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: coming out of the Monkey's Head for the second Gorillas album, 137 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: My Favorite Goerrilla's album for the record Demon Days. Dennis 138 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Hopper was also the subject of the latest album by 139 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: the water Boys. That album is called Life, Death, and 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper and includes song titles that allude to the 141 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: man himself, titles like Transcendental Peruvian Blues, freak Out at 142 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: the Mud Palace, Frank Parentheses, Let's Fuck, and Everybody Loves 143 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper, and then many more. This record came out 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: last year. It is literally a concept album about Dennis 145 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: Hopper's life. Mike Scott, the leader of the water Boys, said, 146 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: it's not a tribute album. It's an exploration, and it's 147 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: not just Dennis's story. It's a story of the times. 148 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: Speaking of the times, there's even some Dennis Hopper adjacent 149 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: content out there in the ether right now. If you're 150 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: watching The Pit on HBO, like I am. Catherine Lanassa, 151 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: the actress who plays the charge nurse Dana. You know 152 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: baby Jane Doe. She was Dennis Hopper's fourth wife for 153 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: just a couple of years back in the early nineteen nineties. 154 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper married many times. I'm guessing not the easiest 155 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: guy to live with. You know, he took a lot 156 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: of risks, both personally and professionally. He was not a 157 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: fan of compromising or even collaborating He once said that 158 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: as a director, his only collaborators were the other actors, 159 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: So you got to wonder how rough it was for 160 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: his crew. I mean, I know that he did make 161 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: one crew for the last movie in nineteen seventy one, 162 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: haul all the shit up the mountains in Peru. And 163 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into all that stuff here 164 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: that Hopper did, because you can hear that in the 165 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: scripted episode on him that we released back on Monday. 166 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: But I do want to put him in context with 167 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: these other big, thinking, fearless, crazy filmmakers from both before 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: and after. I think if you're creating a top five 169 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: of uncompromising risk takers from cinema, I think Dennis Hopper 170 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: has to be in that top five. He basically follows 171 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: as a director, he follows in the footsteps of an 172 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: Orson Wells in a way. Not that his directorial debut, 173 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Easy Writer is as good as Orson wells debut Citizen Kane, 174 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: but both filmmakers famously followed up their first films with 175 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: an uncompromising second effort that essentially just shoots their budding 176 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: careers in the foot right. Wells did that with the 177 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: magnificent Amberson's which was ultimately taken away from him and recut. 178 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: And then Dennis Hopper did it with the last movie, 179 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: his nineteen seventy one follow up to Easy Writer, which 180 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: basically was the moment that Hollywood as Dad took the 181 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: keys to the car away and grounded Dennis Hopper for 182 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: quite some time. So let's look at this. I want 183 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: to talk about my top five list of uncompromising risk 184 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: takers in film filmmakers. And these are in no particular order. 185 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm going to include Dennis Hopper and here. 186 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: So Dennis Hopper is my first one, number one, Number 187 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: two the director Werner Herzog. This guy hypnotized his entire 188 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: crew of the film Heart of Glass. For one scene 189 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: while filming Aguire Wrath of God, he threatened to shoot 190 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Klaus Kinski, the actor, if he left the set, and 191 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: then he was gonna shoot himself afterwards. And then while 192 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: they were making Fitzceraldo in the early eighties, Herzog dragged 193 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: a three hundred and twenty ton steamship over a hill. 194 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the whole point of the film, 195 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: but he actually did that. Number three here in my 196 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: list of uncompromising risk takers, you got to mention Francis 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: for Coppola. I mean, this is the studio insider who 198 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: had it all, but who risked it all for creative 199 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: freedom and lost it all. Right, Coppola famously mortgaged his 200 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: own house just so we could finish Apocalypse Now. They 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: spent two hundred and thirty eight days shooting that movie. 202 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: The release of that movie was postponed five times, and 203 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: then after it comes out, he gets a deal from 204 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: MGM to make the film One from the Heart. MGM's 205 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: going to finance it, They're gonna give Coppola a big payday. 206 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: They were going to pay him a couple of million 207 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: bucks to direct it. But you know, Coppola, being the ambitious, 208 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: risk taking, uncompromising type, he just wants to make a 209 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: more ambitious film. So in order to do that, his 210 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: company bought the rights to the film, which ultimately this 211 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: ruined him. This forced his company into bankruptcy. And you know, man, 212 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: just two years ago he did it again with Megalopolis, 213 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: self financing this behemoth of a film and pushing himself 214 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: in the direction of financial ruin once again. Number four 215 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: on this list is Sam Peckhampah, the director who made 216 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: The Wild Bunch, The Getaway, Bring Me The Head of 217 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Alfredo Garcia, to name a few. Peck and Paw made 218 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: some of the most violent movies of his time. He 219 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: was uncompromising when it came to how much violence he 220 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: showed and how he showed it to audiences, as like 221 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: this slow motion ballet. By taking those risks, he created 222 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: a new visual language and created many masterpieces that will 223 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: live on. But ultimately those risks caused tension between him 224 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: and the suits at the studios, and it was the 225 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: thing that ultimately broke him in the end. And then 226 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: number five here in my list of uncompromising risk takers 227 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, I'm gonna say, Robert Altman, so many great movies, Nashville, California, 228 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Split mcavee and Missus Miller, The Long Goadbye. The list 229 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: goes on and on. He was uncompromising in how he 230 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: told a story. He used ensemble casts, overlapping dialogue, lots 231 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: of anti heroes. There was a subversion to Altman's work 232 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: all the way through to the end of his career 233 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: that was the product of just not giving a fuck 234 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: and taking the risk. Even in nineteen ninety two, the 235 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: player was a risk it was a movie that bit 236 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: the hand that fed it. But the thing about most 237 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: of these uncompromising risk takers on this top five list 238 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: here is that none of them have that offset wild 239 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: life of risk that Dennis Hopper had. None of them 240 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: are sitting strapped to a chair that's rigged with dynamite 241 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: in front of a crowd, and then the dynamite is lit. 242 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: And this isn't for like a movie scene. This is 243 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: live without a net. It's one thing to be uncompromising 244 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: and risky and daring when it comes to making movies. 245 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: It's another thing entirely to do it in your own life. 246 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: And Dennis Hopper was the rare figure who talked the 247 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: talk and walked the walk. So while he was a 248 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: part of this great legacy of risk in Hollywood, a 249 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: legacy which we can say has given us and continues 250 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: to give us some of the greatest movies of all time, 251 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: while he's a part of that legacy, in a way 252 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: he exists outside that legacy, because I don't know if 253 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: any of these guys, even Herzog or Coppola, could even 254 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: exist in Hopper Skier speaking of people who exist outside 255 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: the group that defines them. Next week in hollywood Land, 256 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: we've got our episode from the archive on Alfred Hitchcock, 257 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: a director so great and so formative for so many 258 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: that we've got an adjective to describe him in his work, Hitchcockian. 259 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: That's a word defined by the Oxtra Dictionary as resembling 260 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: or characteristic of the style of the English film director 261 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Sir Alfred Hitchcock, especially through the use of tension and suspense. 262 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Our story here in Hollywoodland hones in on the very 263 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: messed up relationship that Alfred Hitchcock had with one of 264 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: his actresses, Tippy Hedron, on the set of The Birds, 265 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: and how Hitchcock was perhaps obsessed with her or with 266 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: the idea of actresses just like her. Hitchcock made one 267 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: of the greatest movies about obsession, Vertigo, which I'm going 268 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: to feature in next week's installment of the Screening Room 269 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: here in the Feed. But until then, thinking about Hitchcock 270 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: got me thinking about next week's question of the week, 271 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: which is what film are you obsessed with? What film 272 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: have you seen a million times and you'll have no 273 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: issue watching it a million more times in the future. 274 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: Tell me what it is why you're obsessed with it. 275 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: You can call me or text me six one seven 276 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. You can email 277 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: me at disgrace lamp at gmail dot com, hit me 278 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: up on the socials at disgracelanmdpod, or if you're a 279 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: member of Disgraceland all access over on Patreon. That's where 280 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: we just voted on our Oscar picks. It's also the 281 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: only place where you can see our video podcast. This 282 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: film should be played loud. Hit me up in the 283 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: chat over there. Gotta take a quick break, but when 284 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: we return, I'm gonna dig into your responses for this 285 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: week's question of the week, all about movies you saw 286 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Way Too Young? So stick around. Okay, we are back 287 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: and ready to dive into all your voicemails, texts, dms, etc. 288 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: Last week I asked you, guys, what movie did you 289 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: see Way Too Young? And it broke your brain? He 290 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: broke your brain, just like George McFly had his brain 291 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: broken by Darth Vader there in the hazmat suit playing 292 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Van Halen eruption on cassette tape back in the nineteenth fifties. 293 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: Back to the future. Anyways, you guys, I got some 294 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: great responses from you guys here like this voicemail from 295 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: the three three four, mister. 296 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 2: Dick, mister Zes, thank you for as always presenting your 297 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: content in a way that nobody else does. As many 298 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: of other listeners have said, you guys give us the 299 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: material to be cool when we may have lost that 300 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: ability in our own right. Anyway, question of the week, 301 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: which movie did you watch at way too young of 302 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: an age that really scrambled your brain? Sadly I might 303 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: be the wrong person to ask for this because there's 304 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: far too many given my influences as a young man, 305 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: but I ended up seeing things like faces of death 306 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 2: which were just you don't need to be seeing that 307 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: before I was ten years old. 308 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: But as far as a. 309 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: Actually produced movie, I would have to say The Exorcist 310 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: at about five and a half six years old just 311 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: threw me for a loop that I shouldn't have been 312 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: on at that age. And yeah, man, I can't imagine 313 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: that anyone else who saw that at such a young 314 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 2: age was not influenced and maybe frightened beyond anything they 315 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 2: ever imagined after they saw that. So thank you, guys 316 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: as always for presenting what you do and keep it up. 317 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: Man. 318 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm looking for some new content. 319 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: Ro Corolla, Hey, thanks so much for the kind words. 320 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Glad to help out with the cool cred 321 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: and all that. We all could use a little help 322 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in the cool department, myself included. So glad to be there. 323 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: Listen Faces of Death. I still have never checked that out. 324 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I just I can't. I just can't with that. I 325 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: remember I knew back in the day, like you know, 326 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: some kids had that. Some kid had it, and everyone 327 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: was like, hey, let's get together and watch this, and 328 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: it's just like I just I just couldn't. Repression of 329 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: my childhood. Man, it was just something that I just 330 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: just could not could not handle. I did see that 331 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: someone's making a new Faces of Death movie. I don't 332 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: even know what that's about, how one would do that, 333 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: But you know, Hollywood makes a movie about everything these days, 334 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: so I can't say I'm surprised. As far as the Exorcist. 335 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: You know, again here with my repressed childhood, I came 336 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: from a non horror household. We did not watch movies 337 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: like this. Incredibly, I was not tempted to watch movies 338 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: like this outside my house, like at a friend's place, 339 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: because I was just like I had like the fear 340 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: of God put to me by my parents. I can't 341 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: even imagine what my response would have been if I 342 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: had seen this when I was like ten years old, 343 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: But I will say, if I could lie down on 344 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: the imaginary couch here for a moment, I think my 345 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: fondness for strange and fucked up movies later as a 346 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: teenager and as an adult might have something to do 347 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: with all that repression in my childhood. I don't know 348 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: what makes the Exorcist so frightening though, even now as 349 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: an adult, is how rooted in reality it is. But 350 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: you know that three three four, Thanks again so much 351 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: for the call. Got another call here on the same 352 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: subject from our guy Matt in the eight one five. 353 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 4: It's that this is Matt Jones calling from the eight 354 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 4: one to five. Growing up, I was the youngest of three, 355 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: so I had two older brothers, and the blessing and 356 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: curse curses that come with out is is that they 357 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: would let me watch some movies with them. Now good 358 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 4: theater movies that I got to see with them when 359 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: I was like seven or eight was like Rambow three 360 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: and They Live, which was just awesome. But one of 361 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 4: my brothers let me watch blue velvet, David Lynch Blue velvet, 362 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: and also Twin Peak fire Walk with Me. And when 363 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: I saw Bob in fire Walk with Me, that replaced 364 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: any other existing things that was in my night there 365 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: is because Bob scared the hell out of me. I 366 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 4: also remember getting freaked out by the shining. I don't 367 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: know if it was just the eerie music or the 368 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: blood through the hallways. I also remember Good Fellows I 369 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 4: watched out when I was like ten, and just seeing 370 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 4: all that cocaine. I don't know, for some reason, it 371 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 4: really bothered me. 372 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 3: But that's that. 373 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 4: Those are my four. Thanks for all that you do, 374 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: and I look forward to seeing what you do next. Five. 375 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: Okay, uh, Matt, great call, Thank you. And I've said 376 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: this before, I maybe not here, but Bob from Twin 377 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: Peaks fire Walk with Me is the scariest fucking thing 378 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and like you, just like you. When 379 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: I saw it, it instantly replaced every scary image from 380 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: every movie I'd ever seen, and it is still the 381 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: primary image in the recesses of my subconscious that terrifies 382 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: me to this day. David Lynch one, He's succeeded by 383 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: planting that terror deep inside my brain if it's dark 384 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: in the house and like I turn around, I'm half 385 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: expecting to see Bob pop up from the couch or something, 386 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, And Uh, I'm gonna get real with you here, Matt. 387 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: All Right, I still wake up the middle of the 388 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: night and the fucking the notion of Bob just pops 389 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: up in my head, like, fuck, what if he's in 390 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: the what if he's at the fucking foot of the 391 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: bed on the floor, God damn it. And then like 392 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: you got to pull your foot in from outside the sheet, 393 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: like you don't want Bob to be grabbing at it. 394 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: It's just a whole fucking thing. So thank you, Matt 395 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: for reminding me about that that David Lynch ruined my 396 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: life with Bob. Let's stay on this subject. And another 397 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: voicemail from another Matt, this one calling from the nine 398 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: toh eight. 399 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: Hey, Zeff, it's Matt from New Jersey. Yeah, movies that 400 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: broke our brain at a young age. So I guess 401 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: Falling Down came out in like ninety three or ninety four. 402 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 3: I was born in eighty five, and I feel like 403 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: whenever it came out on TV is when I saw it. 404 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: So probably ninety four, And I hate to say it, 405 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: but I don't think it broke my brain, but it 406 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: kind of like pushed me in a direction of nihilism. 407 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what else to say about it, really, 408 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like even I remember the 409 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: scene where he's at the Army Navy store. Those are 410 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: the Army Navy stores of Neo Nazi, and Michael Douglas's 411 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: character is disgusted by him. Like even that kind of 412 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: like spoke to me. But what's interesting among a lot 413 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: of things about that movie and seeing it when you're 414 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: nine years old on TV, is that if I'm not mistaken, 415 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: and I've called you in the past. And I don't 416 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: like the fact check on Google because I think it's 417 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: more fun to talk about this stuff. But I believe 418 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: the final scene on the Santa Monica Peer, Robert Duval 419 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: shoots Michael Douglas's character. I believe that is based on 420 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 3: a incident that happened on the Santa Monica Peer with 421 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: a gentleman named John Mascius who was a singer in 422 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: a hardcore punk band called Circle One, who had a 423 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: psychotic episode and was like throwing people off the pier 424 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 3: and the cops came and shot him. Shot them up 425 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 3: right there. I'm a pier, probably late eighties, early nineties. 426 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: I would not be surprised. I would a wager that 427 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: that scene in that setting is based on the killing 428 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 3: of John Mescius by the lapd. But anyway, yeah, hope. 429 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: You have a nice day later, Yo, Matt, Thanks man. 430 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: I'm not going to Google fact check you here. I agree. 431 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: It's way more fun to talk about shit like this 432 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: in an old school way. And besides, you know, Jake 433 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: Game all kinds of shit for using Shazam to figure 434 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: out of what one of the songs was used in 435 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Boogie Nights when we did our episode of this film 436 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: should be played loud about that to my defense, Guys, 437 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: by the way, on the shazam thing, like who knows 438 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: that song? That song by the Move? Like for real, 439 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: like who knows that. I have a pretty deep knowledge 440 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: of music history of movie history. I will say I'm 441 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: really good at that kind of shit. I didn't like. 442 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know any songs by the Move, 443 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: all due respect to Jeff Lynn, I just don't. Anyways, 444 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: back on track here, Matt, I hope you've since walked 445 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: back from a life of nihilism, you know, as the 446 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: dude says in The Big Lebowski, that must be exhausting. 447 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: I too saw Falling Down when it first came out 448 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three. I was in high school, probably 449 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: a junior or senior when I saw it, and I 450 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: remember having a very visceral reaction to it, which is 451 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of crazy because I was only sixteen or seventeen 452 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: and nowhere near beaten down by life yet like the 453 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Michael Douglas character. But at the same time, you know, 454 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 1: high school is its own opera in which all of 455 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: us characters, you know, are feeling things in a way 456 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: that like they're way more important in life altering than 457 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: they actually are. So perhaps that explains some of it. 458 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: I did not know that about the Circle One singer. 459 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: I got to check in with JB to see if 460 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: he knows about that, and maybe we can do some 461 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: sort of a disgracefully in Hollywood Land thing on Circle 462 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: One and Falling Down sometime. Thank you very much for 463 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: the call. Got a text here on this subject from 464 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: the four to one six which says, I saw they 465 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: call me mister Tibbs, Sidney Poitier and Ed Asner's sequel 466 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: two in the heat of the night. When I was eight, 467 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: My dad had decided to combine a business trip with 468 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: family vacation, so we drove from Toronto, Canada, to Windsor, Ontario, 469 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: where he left my mom, me eight years old, and 470 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: my sister, aged six, stranded without the car to kill 471 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: several hours while he finished up a working day in Detroit, Michigan. 472 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: It was raining in a boring city on a weekday, 473 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: so Mom took us to a cinema at a mall 474 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: where this was the only movie playing. All I remember 475 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: is the opening scene of a naked woman in an 476 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: open blue silk robe getting murdered in an apartment. At 477 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: the time, the murder seemed to me to be a 478 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: consequence of her post coital nudity, shocking to an eight 479 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: year old in nineteen seventy. This was perhaps only a 480 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: few seconds at the start of the film, but I 481 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: never forgot that scene, although I likely napped through the 482 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: rest of this apparently bad movie. And this text has 483 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: signed Joanne. I believe it's Joanne or it's Joan, thank 484 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: you for writing in. My mom's name was Joe, while 485 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: her middle name was Joan, but she went by her 486 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: middle name Joan, and everyone called her Joni, and she 487 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: spelled it with two ends, and so whenever I see 488 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: Joanne spelled like this, my mind immediately goes to Jony, 489 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: my mom's name, and so that's why I'm tripping over 490 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: the pronunciation of it. But thank you so much for 491 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: the text. We've all got that moment, right, We've all 492 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: got that moment where we see we see nudity as 493 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: a child with a parent at a movie for the 494 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: first time. And back in the day it was easier 495 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 1: for this kind of thing to happen because you know, 496 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times people will go to the movie 497 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: and be like, oh shit, I didn't know this was 498 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: going to be this movie. I have not seen this movie, 499 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: did not see it with my with my mom. I 500 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: did see Top Gun with my mom at home, and 501 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: I remember my parents fast forwarding through the sex scene 502 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: with Kelly McGillis to take my breath away scene. So 503 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: I never actually saw that scene until I was older. 504 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: Not that it really matters to the plot. It's not like, 505 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, dirty dancing or whatever. But anyways, thanks again, Joanne. 506 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: Four that text. Another text here from the six to eight, 507 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: which reads a movie that I was shown well before 508 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: I should have been, and it goes with the Dennis 509 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: Hopper theme. Was blue Velvet. I was a skateboarder punk 510 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: in middle and high school. In one of the times 511 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: the skate park, the owner, who was kind of a 512 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: shady guy, had blue velvet on the big projector TV 513 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: in the little hangout room. I was quite shocked as 514 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: a thirteen year old, but to this day I love 515 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: the movie as a thirty six year old Brock from 516 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: the six to eight Brock, Yes, that scene you describe 517 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: seeing blue velvet at a skate park on a big 518 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: projector TV run by a shady guy. He is like, 519 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: I feel like that's the perfect environment to see this 520 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: movie for the first time as a thirteen year old. 521 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: Like it checks all the all the boxes of like 522 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: weird and potentially wrong. Right. You know what's crazy though, 523 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: is like even I rewatched this movie when David Lynch 524 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: died recently and I hadn't seen it in a while, 525 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: and it's still, I mean it is still as an adult. 526 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: The scene in the apartment when Dennis Hopper comes in 527 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: and has the whole thing with Isabella Russellini while Kyle 528 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: McLaughlin is hidden in the closet like that scene is 529 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: still so fucking disturbing and shocking even as an adult. 530 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: So I didn't see this movie to when I was 531 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: until I was an adult. This is another one that 532 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: would have split my brain in half. I'd seen it 533 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: as a thirteen year old Brock thank you for reaching out. 534 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: Another email here on this same subject title. The email 535 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: is for doctor Zeth and the email reads as such, 536 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Shane from the nine to seven oh here on the 537 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: topic of films watched way too young that warped brains. 538 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I watched twenty ten the Year We Make Contact when 539 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: it was in theaters in nineteen eighty four as a 540 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: nine year old. That wasn't the film that blew my mind, though, 541 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: when I realized it was a sequel, I just had 542 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: to see the original. So we rented two thousand and 543 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: one a Space Auditi on VHS. Holy shit, did that 544 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: movie twist my mind. I've since watched it a few 545 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: times more and always seem to find something in it 546 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: that makes it a fresh mind fuck. Also, I seem 547 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: to remember that it was recently voted the best movie 548 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: of all time. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on that. 549 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work. I've been listening to all 550 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: the double Elvis stuff since the first episode of Disgraceland, 551 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: and it just keeps getting better. Shane, thank you so 552 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: much for that, And I'm glad to hear that the 553 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: things are just getting better. As the sage Howard Jones 554 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: once sang about in the nineteen eighties, things can only 555 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: get better. I never saw twenty ten two thousand and one. 556 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: The scope of that film is just like when you're 557 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: when I was younger, teenager and was really getting into 558 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: movies and was really getting into this idea of becoming 559 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: involved in the making of movies and going to film 560 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: school and all that stuff. Two thousand and one was 561 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: one of those formative movies, you know. And I saw 562 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: this movie before I did any drugs, and it made 563 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: you feel like you were on drugs. You just didn't 564 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: really know it at the time. I remember then seeing 565 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: it on the big screen in college. It was a 566 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: double feature with another movie at the Brattle Theater, one 567 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: of my favorite theaters in the Boston area and Cambridge 568 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: over by Harvard. The Brattle used to and I'm guessing 569 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: they still do. I'm not sure, but they used to 570 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: do these program double features all the time. I wonder 571 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: if it was a double feature with another Kubrick movie, 572 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: like Clockwork, Orange maybe or something. But it was a long, 573 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: long day at the movies. My guy Todd was there 574 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: with me. I think we were in like front row 575 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: or second row. And just the ingenuity of this filmmaking 576 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 1: using your weaknesses as strains. Because you know, this came 577 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: out in nineteen sixty eight, it's very much like a 578 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: before and after kind of movie, like this before two 579 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: thousand and one and after two thousand and one. But 580 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the way in which Kubrick made a film that looks 581 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: as sophisticated as he does with the tools that he was, 582 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, the limiting tools that he had at his disposal, 583 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: is just wild. And there's something so timeless about the 584 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: movie too, you know about it's about searching for meaning, 585 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: you as the viewer, searching for the meaning of the 586 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: monolith through the whole movie, Like is there any meaning? 587 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: And is there a point? I guess that's the whole 588 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: thing of this movie, right. I think I personally liked 589 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: this more when I was younger than I do now. 590 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm still in awe of this movie. It's not my 591 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: favorite Kubrick anymore. It probably was an a time, but 592 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of changed a little bit. And as far 593 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: as the best movie thing, I think Cite and Sound 594 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: magazine which does this like recurring poll of a lot 595 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: of critics, and I think filmmakers of the greatest movies 596 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: of all time, they do it every couple of years. 597 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: I believe. I don't think it's number one in their poll, 598 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: but it's definitely in the top ten. And I think 599 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: this movie will kind of always be in the top ten. 600 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: It's like a Citizen Kane of its time in many ways. 601 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: So great email, Shane, thanks for reaching out. I've got 602 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: so many other emails and texts and voicemails from you guys. 603 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: I got a multipron text here from the eight oh eight. Well, 604 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: this text talks about the question of the week and 605 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: also last week I was thanking Nicholas Cage movies. So 606 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: this text from the eight await hits upon both of 607 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: these things. It says movie I saw too Young, Blue 608 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Lagoon at eight years old, uncensored, need I say more? 609 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: And then Nick Cage Top five five, The Rock four, 610 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: Wiley's Wonderland, No Dialogue three, Vampires Kiss, two con Air, 611 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: and one Face Off. Can really believe it's Travolta wearing 612 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Cage's face. Yeah, Blue Lagoon eight years old, uncensored. That 613 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: was a bit of a legendary film back in the day. 614 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: Just sort of like the knowing about that movie and 615 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: the just not only the transgressive nature of the subject, 616 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: but of the people who made it and the ages 617 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Your Nick Cage top five. I'm 618 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: liking this very different than we both had the same 619 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: top five number five. We both had The Rock at 620 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: number five, Wiley's Wonderland. I do not know this movie 621 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: Vampires Kiss. I have not seen that in probably like 622 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: twenty years. I appreciate this list. I appreciate Face Off 623 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: at number one on Travolta and Nick Cage swapping faces. 624 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: Just great, great filmmaking. Another text from the seven to 625 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: seven nine on this subject of Nick Cage movies that says, Hey, Zeth, 626 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: I just listened to the Nick Cage episode and I 627 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: wanted to give my top five favorite films of his. 628 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: Number five, Piggy Got Married, number four, Lord of War, 629 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: number three, Moonstruck, number two, Face Off, number one, Raising Arizona, 630 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: which is actually my favorite movie of all time seven 631 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: seven nine, So some days it's my favorite movie all 632 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: time too. I have I mentioned I mentioned Letterbox before 633 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: overnd my letterbox. You know, you can do your on 634 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: your profile, you set your top four movies. It's like 635 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: they're big question that they ask people on their social accounts. 636 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: And I changed these occasionally, as I mean, listen, I'm 637 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: not gonna put my top four movies in stone and 638 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: they're going to stay that way forever. But I'm just 639 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: looking at my letterbox account right now, which, by the way, 640 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: is what zeth not seth if you guys want to 641 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: hook up over there. My favorites right now on there 642 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: are Zodiac almost famous, Raising Arizona and After Hours. That's 643 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: just sort of an example of my my style, I guess. 644 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, seven seven nine, Raising Arizona. It's one of 645 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. It's just it's just so good, 646 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: and it's from a period of the Coen Brothers work 647 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: that is just stellar in my opinion, that first, you know, 648 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years or whatever of their career is just 649 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: untouchable in my opinion. Everybody else, get at me here 650 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: with your top five lists, whether it's about uncompromising risk 651 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: takers in Hollywood, or if it's about Nick Cage movies, 652 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: or maybe it's about Coen Brothers movies. I don't know. 653 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: Give me, give me. It's some top fives I like. 654 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to play around with these and more. I've 655 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: always been a big fan of lists. Send me a 656 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: text or leave me a voicemail. Six one seven nine 657 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. I'm going to take 658 00:35:50,120 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: another quick break, and I'll be right back with some recommendations. Okay, everybody, 659 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: it is time for the recommendations section of the Rap Party. 660 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: Here are some of the things I've been watching, listening to, reading, 661 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera over the last week. Among the 662 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 1: many many things I watched this past week, I've been 663 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: watching a lot of stuff for work, guys, A lot 664 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: of stuff for you know, not just the screening room 665 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: here in Hollywood Land, but also for this film should 666 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: be played loud over on Patreon. Just been rewatching a 667 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: lot of stuff to kind of like get these movies 668 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: back in my brain. But among all this other work stuff, 669 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: two of the things I watched this week are very 670 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: opposite ends of genre and vibe. Okay, I watched if 671 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: I had legs, I'd kick you And I also watched 672 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: Zootopia two. Let me talk about if I had legs, 673 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: I'd kick you first. This is the best title of 674 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: last year by far. It's like a Morrissey song, you 675 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: know how like Morrissey. I think it was Elvis Costello 676 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: who once said that Morrissey was like the he was 677 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: the greatest at writing song titles that the actual songs 678 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: like did not live up. The actual songs could not 679 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: live up to the greatness of the song title. This 680 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: is the movie that stars Rose Byrne. She was up 681 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: for Best Actress at the Oscars. It was written and 682 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: directed by Mary Bronstein, co starring Conan O'Brien and asap Rocky, 683 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: which is quite the eclectic cast. Asap Rocky man, I'm 684 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: really digging him. He was my favorite thing about Highest 685 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: to Lois, the Spike Lee film from last year, and 686 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: he's super great in this as well. This movie is 687 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: about a mom who's coming apart. She's got a kid 688 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,760 Speaker 1: who's sick, she doesn't know what it is, her husband's 689 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: away on work, her apartment's falling apart, and the performances 690 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: are stellar across the board. Rose burn is great. Conan 691 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: O'Brien plays for therapist, and he's very icy and cold asap. 692 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: Rocky is this guy that she meets at the hotel 693 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: where she's staying when her apartment's being worked on. But 694 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 1: there's a choice made in this film of how it's 695 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: shot and how we remain in rose Byrne's characters headspace, 696 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: and this choice pays off one wonderfully in the film's 697 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: final moment in a very cool way. But I got 698 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: to say, just aesthetically, I did not love the choice. 699 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: I kind of wanted it to be there. I wanted 700 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: to be sort of in this headspace, maybe for an 701 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: extended amount of time, you know, a scene here or there, 702 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: but for the whole movie it was just very claustrophobic. 703 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: And I get it. I get that's the point. It 704 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: was just a a bit intense, right. It just wasn't 705 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: my thing. I get it. I understand the angle here. 706 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: But the cool thing about watching this is that my 707 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: wife and I are also watching for the first time 708 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: the show Platonic over on Apple TV. It's this show 709 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: with Rose byrn and Seth Rogen about these best friends 710 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: who reconnect as adults. We only just started watching it, 711 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: and I'm actually enjoying it quite a bit. But she's 712 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: so fucking good at comedy, like she is ridiculously good 713 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: at comedy, and so it's actually quite shocking to watch 714 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: her in something this dramatic and just how good she is. 715 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: Rose Byrn really going all in in my roseburn Stock 716 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: right now. But if I had legs, i'd kick you. 717 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: Check it out. It's a bit intense if you're a 718 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: parent or a mom, especially if you've had kids with illnesses. 719 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: It can hit a bit close to home. Just warning, Okay, 720 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Zootopia two. I watched this on Disney Plus with my 721 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: youngest over the weekend. My youngest is twelve. She is 722 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: the only well I wouldn't say that. My oldest daughter 723 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: really loves the Spider Verse movies a lot, the animated 724 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: into the Spider Verse movies, but my youngest is still 725 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: she's still all in on animated movies more so than 726 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: live action movies. So we watched Utopia two for the 727 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: first time we've seen Zootopia before, and it was great. 728 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: It was a solid Disney movie, and what made it 729 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: really fun for me is there are references to both 730 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the shining and silence of the lambs in this movie 731 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: that are Chef's kiss. There's a whole scene where a 732 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: character escapes and goes running through a labyrinth like the 733 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: one in The Shining and it's so funny and so 734 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: spot on, and it's just I love, you know, this 735 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: is what I love. I love about Pixar as well. 736 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: Pixar did not do this. I think it was just Disney. 737 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: I love the treats they throw in for the adults. 738 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: It's great. So it was a good time. If you 739 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: got kids and you guys did this kind of thing, 740 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: I think you like it. It was fun. It was funny. 741 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: I laughed a lot. What I've been listening to I 742 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: listened to John Coltrane a lot. When I write. I 743 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: like to listen to instrumental music. When I write. I 744 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: don't like it to be quiet. I have a really 745 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: hard time with dead Air, even when I'm not I 746 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: always have music on no matter what I'm doing. When 747 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: I write, it needs to be instrumental, because if it's 748 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: got lyrics in it, then I'm listening to the lyrics 749 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: and it just fucks me up. So Coltrane, we all 750 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: know about albums like Blue Training and Giant Steps and 751 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: I Love Supreme. But my low key favorite Coltrane album 752 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: right now and for a while is this one called 753 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: ol A Coultrane. It's from nineteen sixty one. This was 754 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: his last album for Atlantic before his contract expired, meaning 755 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: that Atlantic released other stuff after this, but this was 756 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: like the last one that he had created of control 757 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: over for that label. So his stretch at Atlantic was 758 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: giant steps, Coltrane Jazz, my favorite things, and then this one, 759 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: ol A Coltrane. This has McCoy tyner on piano, Elvin 760 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: Jones on drums. Of course, bass players, he's got two here, 761 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: Reggie Workmen and Art Davis, Freddy Hubbard trumpet, Eric Dolphie. 762 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: The first side is just one song. It's called Ola. 763 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: It's eighteen minutes long. It's a moldal jazz vamp. It's 764 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: one chord very a love Supreme in this like mantra 765 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: kind of way right. And then side B has two 766 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: tracks on it, the ballad Aisha, which is written by 767 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: McCoy tyner. It's as good as any of Coltrane's ballads 768 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: from any of his records. The Ballads record or any 769 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,800 Speaker 1: other Cultrane record is so solid. So this is nineteen 770 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: sixty one right. So although it's got Eric Dolphie on here, 771 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: and although it's got this one chord vamp on side A, 772 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: this is not like out to lunch jazz. It's not 773 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: like freak out jazz. But it's on the precipice. It's 774 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: like looking through the window at far out stuff. It's 775 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: like dreaming of the future a little bit, and it's 776 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: just great music to get lost inside of. It gets 777 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: my brain chugging along like nothing else. Again, that's old 778 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: a Coltrane by John Coltrane. Stergill Simpson has a new 779 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 1: record out under his alter ego Johnny Bluesky's. This one's 780 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 1: actually called Johnny blue Skys and the Dark Clouds. The 781 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: album is called Mutiny After Midnight. It's cool. He did 782 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: this old school release thing with this where he released 783 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: it physically, so he released it on vinyl and on 784 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: CD and I think on cassette as well, but it's 785 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: currently not available streaming. He did a funny thing a 786 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: few weeks ago where he like leaked his own album 787 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: on YouTube so you could stream it on YouTube, but 788 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: he since has taken that stream down, so like the 789 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,840 Speaker 1: only way to hear it is physically. My friend bought 790 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: the record and he let me borrow it the other day, 791 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: so I've been playing that. It's it's fun. You know, 792 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 1: Stergill Simpson's like this, you know, country bluegrass kind of guy, 793 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: but this whole Johnny Blue Sky's alter ego is more 794 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: like the rock and roll. This is like a funky 795 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: seventies era, disco era rock record. But it's like it's 796 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: like if what's going on meets let's get it on. 797 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: It's like has a social conscious, but it also is horny. 798 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 1: That's what this record is. It's fun. It's it's totally fun, 799 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: a fun listen. I've been enjoying it. For me, the 800 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: best Sturgeon records are still those cutting grass bluegrass records 801 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 1: he did. But I love when artists take chances. Talk 802 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: about risk takers, you know, Sturgel Simpson is a risk taker, 803 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: and I'm here for it and I love it. So 804 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: that's what I'm listening to. It's your turn now. I 805 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: want to know what have you been watching, what have 806 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: you been reading, what have you been listening to? What 807 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: should I check out? Hit me up and let me know? 808 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight, 809 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: Hang tight, everybody and I'll take one more quick break. 810 00:43:46,680 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: I'll be right back after this. All right, gang, We 811 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: are just about at the end of another installment of 812 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: the Rap Party. Thanks to all of you for hanging out. 813 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: Thanks if you called in or texted or emailed or whatever. 814 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: Apologies if I did not get to your message this week. 815 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: Please keep in touch. There's always next week or the 816 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: week after that. I could honestly, honestly fill up the 817 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: entire episode with your messages alone, which is awesome. So again, 818 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: appreciate you all of you. We get to do this 819 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: because of all of you. I thank you everybody here 820 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: at Double Evis. Thanks you. I recently took part in 821 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: a career day at the high school here in town. 822 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: So I went into school last week and I talked 823 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: to groups of teenagers about what I do for work. 824 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 1: And it was another reminder of how lucky I am 825 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: to be doing what I love, and lucky too that 826 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: you guys are all responding to it and are here 827 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: for it. I've been running this Rap Party show here 828 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: for not quite a year yet. I think it will 829 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: be a year in like June, but we are full 830 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: speed ahead here in Hollywood Land and in Disgraceland. We've 831 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: got some really cool shit planned for this year twenty 832 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 1: twenty six, So buckle up and stay tuned, and remember 833 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: question of the week for next week. I want to 834 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: know what movie are you obsessed with? You've watched it 835 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 1: a million times, you can't wait to watch it a 836 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: million more. What is it and why does it speak 837 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 1: to you? Call me Text me six one seven nine 838 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight, email me at disgracelampod 839 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,320 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, hit me up on the socials 840 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: at disgrace lampod or in the chat over in the 841 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: Disgraceland All Access Patreon. With that said, let's recap number one. 842 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: First of all, right now in your Hollywood land, feed 843 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 1: our episode on Dennis Hopper. Number two coming at you 844 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: this Friday. We've got a new episode of the Screening Room, 845 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: and this week I'm talking all about the nineteen eighty 846 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: film Out of the Blue, directed by Dennis Hopper, starring 847 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper, Linda Mans and Sharon Ferrell. Number three. Next 848 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: week Monday, we continue our Mavericks and Outliers month with 849 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: a fully scripted and sound design episode on Alfred Hitchcock. 850 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: Number four. Over in our sister show Disgraceland. Jake just 851 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: dropped a brand new episode on Chrissy Hind of the 852 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: Pretender's kind of the origin story of the Pretenders and 853 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: of Chrissy's early years in London. Basically there as an 854 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: active participant as punk rock was busy being born. Check 855 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: that out in the Disgraceland feed. Number five. Don't sleep 856 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: on Disgraceland All access over in Patreon, where you can 857 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: get ad free listening of all of our shows, plus 858 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 1: bonus audio and video content, including our monthly video podcast. 859 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,839 Speaker 1: This film should be played loud, the only place where 860 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: Disgraceland and hollywood Land come together like Starsky and Hutch 861 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: or Crockett and Tubs to bring you funny and insightful 862 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: conversations on the greatest music in some of the greatest 863 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: films of all time, including next week's brand new episode 864 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: all about the Big Lebowski. Just go to disgracelandpod dot 865 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: com to sign up now in honor of this week's episode. 866 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: Here's what America was watching at the movies in May 867 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: twenty ten, the month that Dennis Hopper died at the 868 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: age of seventy four. Number one Iron Man, directed by 869 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: Jon Favreau. Number two, Shrek Forever After, directed by Mike Mitchell. 870 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: Number three Robin Hood directed by Ridley Scott Midgell directed 871 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,919 Speaker 1: by Gary Winnie. Number four three, Sex and the City 872 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: two directed by Michael Patrick King directed by Number five. 873 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: Nightmare on Elm Street directed by Samuel Bayer directed by 874 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: Chris Sans. Number six Letters to Juliette directed by Gary Winnick. 875 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 1: Number seventh Prince of Persians, the same as of Tell 876 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,479 Speaker 1: and directed by Quit Talking and Start Mixing Good