WEBVTT - Michael B. Jordan: How to Connect with Your Intuition & Focus on Your Path 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:04.440 Hey guys, it's Jay Sheddy here and I couldn't be 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:08.440 more excited to share this exciting news you asked, we 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.920 delivered Juny sparkling tea with adaptogens made by my wife 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:17.000 and I are now available in all Sprout locations across 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.400 the country. Juni is the perfect midday pick me up. 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.400 With only one third of the caffeine found in brood 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.400 Green tea, it provides a gentle energy boost without the crash. 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:30.840 It only has five calories and zero grams of sugar, 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.080 making it the perfect drink. 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It means the world to me. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.200 The number one health and wellness podcast. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:45.880 Jay Sheetty Jay Shetty see ny Only shet. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.480 Hey everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:54.040 come to to become happier, healthier, and more healed. I 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.840 appreciate your ears, I appreciate your eyes. I'm so grateful 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.800 that you're here right now, and I thank you for 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.080 investing in yourself. You know that this platform is all 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.080 about allowing the humans to be human, to give them 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.440 a space to share their heart, share their mind, and 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.079 share what's really happening behind the scenes. I think it's 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.280 so easy in the climate we live in to get 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.280 lost in clickbait and articles and views, and often that 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.640 stops us from actually getting to understand someone and see 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.000 someone for who they are. And today's guest is someone 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.480 that I've been wanting on the show for years. So 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.799 I'm extremely happy and extremely present, even more than ever 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.919 because this has been an opportunity I've been looking forward to. Today, 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.959 I'm talking to the one and only Michael B. Jordan, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.720 a director, actor, producer who's recognized as an industry leader 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.840 invested in bringing social change to Hollywood through his art 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.320 and philanthropy. Making his feature film directorial debut, Michael B. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.880 Jordan recently reprised the role of a Donnis Creed in 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.520 Creed three. I'm a big Rocky fan, so when Creed drop, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.920 you knew I had to see it, which had the 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.280 biggest opening weekend for a Creed film and biggest domestic 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.280 opening for a sports movie ever ever of all time. 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.720 I just going to clarify that. Up next, Michael B. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.400 Jordan is set to start in Ryan Coogler's next feature 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.320 film for Warner Brothers, and Michael B. Jordan also was 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.800 named one of Times one hundred most Influential People of 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.360 twenty twenty three, he's been recognized as People's twenty twenty 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.359 Sexiest man Alive. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.200 My team went on. 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.520 About this and one of the New York Times twenty 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.840 five Greatest Actors of the twenty first century. And now 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.320 he's got a new health drink count and you know 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.320 I'm a big fan of health and wellness. It's called Moss, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:36.560 the first of its kind, Sea Moss Beverage available nationwide. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.240 As you're listening on watching today, Welcome to the show, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:39.720 Michael B. 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:40.120 Jordan. 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:41.000 Mike, it's great to have you. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.720 Very appreciate it, Man, that introduction is great. I just 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.200 carry you around with me everywhere I go and just 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.200 introduce me places. But no, I appreciate it. Thanks for 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:50.640 having me man. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.480 Well, I wanted to add also, like in the few 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.680 moments we've spent together, even just walking in, you know, 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.040 if I can add to that intro, you know, extremely humble, 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.600 gracious and like thoughtful, like it's it's almost a nice 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.600 meeting that and I and I love that this platform 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:05.960 is a space that can come out and we were 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.120 just talking about that. You were saying that you know, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.120 you've almost been looking for a space where you can 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.960 share that because. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.760 You don't do a lot of press. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:12.360 I don't. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:13.080 I don't think. 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.280 You know, it's seasons for it, you know, obviously, you 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.880 know when you have a project coming out or something 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.480 you need to promote. You know, there's it's a part 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.480 of that, that news cycle. But for me personally, I 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.520 try to you know, kind of say to myself a 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.000 little bit and and very cautious of how you want 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.800 people to get to know you, you know, when you 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.560 have opportunities to speak and share things about yourself and 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.279 not kind of you know, be a part of sometimes 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:36.200 other people's agenda. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:36.599 You know. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.000 So so that's uh. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.200 But but been a big, big fan of yours for 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.200 for a long time and the work that you've done 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.760 and you are currently doing, and it felt like this 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:47.440 was a good good time to you know, to get 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.039 out and talk and and uh, you know, share some 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.760 things about me. I guess you know, I've a it's 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.640 been it's been a journey. You know, it's been it's 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.520 been a journey. So uh, you know, this is a 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:57.600 nice little check in point. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.600 I think, yeah, I love that well, I appreciate the 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.520 trust and I love that checking point because it must 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.400 be fascinating to look back at something and then think 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.240 about where you were in life, what was going on 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.240 in your mind. So I wanted to start with there 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.240 was this one thing you said in an interview, and 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.600 we were talking about this earlier, this idea of written 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.320 versus being able to explain, and there was this great 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.080 point you made that I think people wouldn't recognize with 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.839 the amount of success you've had, the hits you've had. 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.800 You know, I think people want to know about you 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.800 and learn about you. But you said, when you come 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.320 from where I come from and everybody doesn't get those 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.520 breaks that luck, you start to question why am I 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.440 successful in life? Why did I go this way and 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.599 everybody went that way? And I just thought that that was, 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:44.400 you know, again extremely humble and also representative of where 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.880 you grew up, how you came up, Like which way 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:50.160 did everyone go and where did that luck begin for you? 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.239 You know, I think coming up in North New Jersey, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.719 coming up in that environment, and you know, having you know, 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.560 when you're younger, you know you're living life. You know 0:05:57.720 --> 0:05:59.360 you're taking it a day at a time. You know 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.279 you're going a boat, well practice, you're going to school, 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.200 you know you're going to church, you know you're you're Yeah. 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:05.320 For me, it was you know, taking a lot of 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.560 trips to New York City, going on auditions at a 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.320 really really young age and just figuring out what what 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.919 what that is? Having having parents pretty aware, you know, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.840 and and very present in my life, you know, growing up. Uh, 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:19.760 you know, that was that was rare amongst my family, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:23.080 amongst my friend group, you know, having both parents that 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.960 was there and very present and aware of my environment 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.640 as well. You know what what uh, you know, being 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.880 told to look out for these things and uh make 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.919 good choices, to be disciplined, to be focused on things, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.880 you know, get your school, you know, all the the 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.920 you know, the the positives and in growing up in 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.440 an environment like that, and you know, hats off to 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.400 my parents and to uh to sacrifice so much to 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.599 make sure their kids, you know, were safe and grew 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.360 up and you know, and you know, grew up in 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.520 an environment ain't easy making ends meet, you know, grew 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:54.760 up very poor, but didn't. 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.039 Feel like it. You know what I'm saying. It was 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:57.680 very you know, I think they did a good job 0:06:57.720 --> 0:06:59.599 at hiding those things. You know. I think as we 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:00.719 get older, we look back. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.400 It was like, oh man, we went through that or 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.200 that's why we slept in the kitchen at one time 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.600 with the oven open, or oh, that's when we stayed 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:08.400 at Grandma's house for like, you know, a couple of 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.760 weeks when you you know, so you get that reflection 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.400 of how we kind of grew up. And and I 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.760 think for me, you know, always having a you know, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:18.760 a bigger purpose, I think, or just you know, just 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:19.600 that optimism. 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.600 You know that that I was a big dreamer as. 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.720 A kid, and I think, you know, you start to 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.040 not just to focus on the just the work of 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.160 it all. But since I was working such a young age, 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:31.960 that's the thing that I can kind of point to of, 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.440 you know, booking auditions and getting this job and traveling 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:38.680 to this place and experiencing these things and coming back 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.560 home with these experiences and not having a lot of 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.520 people who could relate or could you know, I could 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.600 soundboard off of. And I think in feeling like that, 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.360 you don't want to alienate those people, you know, And 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:54.680 I think, and this is all I guess, in hindsight, 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.040 you don't share these stories as much. You know, maybe 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.280 you should because you don't want somebody to feel like 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.800 inadequate or you know, not being able to have that 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.000 experience that you might have had. And I think, you know, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.080 that's snowballs. As you get older and from stepping stone 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.520 to stepping stone, as as I continue to be successful 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:15.400 at at at a young age, you start to question 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.160 why am I being so successful? And the people that 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.120 look just like me, that are right next to me 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:24.240 and these everyday things aren't necessarily doing that or not 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:28.880 choosing to you know, just didn't have those options that 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:29.760 were laid out to them. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:30.400 Uh. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.640 And I think it you start to doubt yourself for 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.400 whatever reason, or feel guilty for. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.400 The things that you may or may not have, even. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.280 Though you know, our parents were people of service, you know, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.560 block parties or you know, cooking church dinners or. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.199 You know whenever. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.440 You know, my house was the house that everybody came 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.800 to at some point, whether we were going to get 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:53.559 pizza that night, or Dad was going to take everybody 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.319 camping or going to these things like it was that 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.280 was kind of my house, within within my neighborhood and community. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.559 And and so I think for me being a person 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.320 of service kind of because you know, it's kind of 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.600 comes from how I was raised. And and those are 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.120 the examples that I knew growing up. I always felt 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.959 lucky too. As you become more successful and you you 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.599 see less people look like you that are being successful 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.760 in this in this realm, and you end up being 0:09:18.840 --> 0:09:22.160 the one guy that looks like me that successful or 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.839 the couple guys that are the usual suspects that you 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.000 see in the audition room or in things of that nature. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.680 You know, you start to sometimes question. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.040 Why, why why are you now? I can? 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.760 I feel as though it was my It was my path, 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.920 you know, it was my purpose and spirituality and growing 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.520 up in a in a household that was very focused 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.880 on you know, you know, church and spiritual and meditation 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:48.760 and and and just being. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.760 Aware of the world that we live in. 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.600 You know, I felt I was destined for for something, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.040 not knowing what that was, but just something. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:57.600 Wow. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.520 Yeah, I mean when I'm when I'm hearing that, it 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.680 sounds like I love what you said. You were like 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.720 you know, they hit we were poor and we didn't 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.679 even see that. But this idea of like you sound 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.640 So when I when I see you talk about your family, 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.240 and for those of you're watching, you can see it 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.160 on Mike's face. But there's so much joy and there's 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.439 bliss and there's like a there's like a happiness when 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.439 you're looking back on that time, Like I can see 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.400 it's a positive experience because of how you feel you've 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.400 been loved and cared for and supported, even though the 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.800 resources may not have been there or the access or opportunities. 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.080 And I was wondering when I was listening to you, like, 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.840 is there a memory or an experience from your childhood 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.319 that you think defines who you are today? Like, was 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:40.080 there a memory or a story that you have in 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:42.480 your mind of an experience you went through that you 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.719 think brings out maybe that service element or brings out 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:46.840 that purposeful element. 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.480 And I think there's this blissedness, this this appreciation for 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.920 how I grew up comes in hindsight, you know, like 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:55.760 you know the first time you have a moment where 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.040 you're like pick up the phone, you know, one morning 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.600 you just call your mom and be like thank you. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.400 I get it, and I'm sorry. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.080 I'm sorry for for being that kid at some point, 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.120 and I'm so sorry for not understanding. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:11.920 I totally get what you guys are going through. 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.000 Sheesh. I love you guys. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.920 You know, like you have those moments when you get older, 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.160 you know that you just can't really have that perspective 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.040 when you're When you were a kid, and I think, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.840 you know, I was very mischievous, you know as well. 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:28.160 And I think there were moments when my dad disciplined me, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.960 you know, for for for whatever the you know, whatever 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.400 I did at that time, and then my mom would 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.200 have a conversation around the why and then being also 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:45.760 forced or pushed and nudged into a space where you 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.600 had to acknowledge your siblings also, you know, in that 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.400 situation and the importance of family and what that means. 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.040 You know, my parents have different upbringings, you know what 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.480 I'm saying from you know, uh, and different families structures 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.520 growing up, but one thing they've always provided us with 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.679 is just a sense of like family over everything, you know, 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.640 and how important that is, and that just kind of 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.160 kept the groundedness to me throughout. So I think just 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.400 the experiences of just family. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.280 I like your point of behind sight. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.960 I've definitely made that call to my mom for sure, Like, yeah, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.440 I made that call to my mom when we were 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.480 on the same age. So for me, it's like I've 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.920 made that call and I think I made it probably 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.480 like twenty five. It was probably around them when I 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.199 finally made that call, And not that I did love 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:32.760 my mom before that, of course I did, but it 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.520 was like that honest understanding of just how hard it 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.040 was to do what she did because she was raising 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.560 two kids, she was dropping us to school, picking us up. 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.680 She was the breadwinner of the family. She made us breakfast, lunch, 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.000 and dinner fresh every day. And you don't recognize that 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.760 as a kid. You don't realize the sacrifice, the hustle 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.280 and always making you feel loved on top of doing 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.760 all of that. It's hard work. You've talked to you 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.520 said that now you feel you've got to a place 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.839 that it's your path. What was that switch for you 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.560 that went from like I don't deserve this God, like 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.000 I feel out of place, I'm lucky, to being like, no, actually, 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.480 now I see it as this was meant to be 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.120 my path because I think a lot of people and 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.040 a lot of our listeners will be there, like a 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.200 lot of people are like they're making moves and maybe 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.160 their first person in their family to go to college, 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.400 or maybe they're the first person who started up a 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:28.280 business as an entrepreneur, or maybe one of our listeners 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.800 is trying to break generational trauma and they're the first 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.920 person to spot it. Yes, but then they all live 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:35.839 in that space like can I do this? Like am 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.520 I the one to do this? And so what was 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.720 it that made that switch from like I'm not sure 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.520 I'm the guy, but oh it is my path. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.960 It's the sum of all things leading up into that point. 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:50.360 I think it's all the doubt. It's the impostor syndrome. 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:56.839 It's the blessings that you can't really accept fully. And 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:02.040 you listen to other people's who are successful, or you 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.520 see examples that you kind of feel connected to, like man, 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.000 that that kind of feels like me, or what he 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.040 just said or what she just said. I kind of 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.240 I resonate with that, you know, I feel like that 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:19.560 Sometimes you know other people who are looking at you saying, no, Mike, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.800 this is what you have, this is what you can be, this. 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.400 Is what you are. Nah, nah, I can't know that. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.200 That's too good. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:27.040 No, that ain't me. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:33.120 You know, your own presence in a situation where you 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.520 have to step back and look at yourself. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.120 And be like, am I this guy right now? Like, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:39.440 oh man, there's a room. 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.400 Full of people who showed up because it's something I'm 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:47.200 doing and they're in service or in support of my idea, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:48.280 my thing. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.040 Okay, that looks and feels like I'm the guy. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.720 Okay, you're in I'm in the industry where you know, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.120 you're the success of your work and your art has 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.479 been you know, dictated and validated by other people's opinions, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:10.120 and whether those opinions are factual or projected on you 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:17.360 from their own individual perspective. I think it's it was 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:22.240 a combination of all those things. And I've always been 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.600 curious and walked towards the how do I make myself better? 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.720 What are the things that I need, the tools that 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.440 I need in order to improve myself the way I think, 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.680 the way how do I maximize myself? You know, so 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:40.200 from I think getting a you know, an executive coach, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.160 you know who talks to executives all day and and 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.480 and you know how to create healthy conversations, the right 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.440 type of conversations that have as you're building a team 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:50.560 around you, because. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.600 You know, as you know, it's not just us, you know, 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:53.240 we have an. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.960 Entire team of people that surround us that help us 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:00.160 achieve our dreams and get the big idea done. A 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:05.320 spiritual advisor, a spiritual coach that I have who you 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:10.200 know helps me, uh do my energy work, my spiritual work, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.000 and and and and help sift through the noise and 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.160 and and and find those things. And I think it 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.720 wasn't until I had, you know, roles that challenged my 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.760 spirit and myself in a real way that that that 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.400 that and the weight and where the attention was so 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.360 loud that it was you know, it was deafening, and 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.800 it was and I couldn't you know, see clearly. And 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.240 you know these champagne problems, you know what I'm saying. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:39.600 You know, you know that like you know, we're blessed, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:43.760 so but the weight is so heavy, you know, and 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.200 people sometimes think and they see what we have or 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.520 what you know, or what we're you know, what we're doing, 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.880 and it's like, oh, just be grateful, you know, or 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.560 just you know, what are you complaining about? 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:56.840 You know? 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.520 And and you know most people wouldn't be to walk, 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.360 you know, a block in our shoes, you know, with 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:07.119 with this stuff. And I think it was and you 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.959 have moments where you you resent things and you're angry 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:15.760 at you know, the feelings that you accumulate for not 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.800 being clear or or not understanding you know why this. 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.440 There's a lot of wise and you're not going to 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.119 get all the answers, but you want to, you know, 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.600 be able to get to a place where you're you're clear. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.679 So to answer a question, when did I decide? When 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.639 did I like, you know, when did I feel like that? 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.680 Maybe two years ago, maybe a year ago. You look 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.399 at where your family has come from, and shit, look 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.840 at your bloodline. You know you look you look at 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.560 you know your community. You're like, man, there's a cycle 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:48.440 there from generation to generation that happens when you get 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:49.280 to yourself. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.280 And you're like, man, can I stop this? 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:52.200 Can I change this? 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:53.480 I could do this. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.280 Once you it's like once you, once you know better, 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.080 you got to almost do better. Once you see it, 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.080 you can't unsee it. And I refuse to ignore it. 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:05.160 I refuse to see it an opportunity that I had 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.040 to change things and act like it didn't exist. And 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:10.760 I think that was the thing for me that I 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:15.040 was like, nah, I gotta, I gotta If that's my purpose, 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.240 if that's my path is to just see it and 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:20.280 I can see the pieces and that if I can 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.760 just continue to do this, or if I stay down 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.760 the pathway on that and I might be able to 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.560 make a big difference in my nephew's life or my 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.920 my future children's, my future grandchildren's life. I gotta do 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.159 that because there's been so many people that might that 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.160 didn't that that it wasn't the perfect storm for them 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:41.440 to have that opportunity. 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.920 It wasn't the right time in the world. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:50.760 Technology wasn't there, the resources, the right social conversations are 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.960 being had for for us to have these platforms and 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.000 speak and be successful the. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.200 Way we are. You know, you gotta you gotta do it. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.800 And I think that was a big part of it, 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.680 you know, you know, understanding my own mortality, you know, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.240 and understanding you know, you know, life isn't you know, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.399 isn't a forever thing. And I think that happens when 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.399 you get older too, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:16.600 you know, just turned thirty seven, and it's like, wow, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.919 I vividly remember, you know, fifteen, I vividly remember twenty one. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:23.320 I remember vividly remember twenty five, thirty, you know, And 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.760 I used to look at thirty five thirty seven like 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.240 like ancient you know, what I'm saying, and I'm like, 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.680 oh man, we're here, and it's like, you gotta do 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.000 what you gotta do while you're here and make an impact. 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.720 You gotta fulfill your You got to fulfill yourself whatever 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:40.879 that may be, you know. 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:43.720 And uh and I think so. 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:46.359 Yeah, So that that moment for me where it was like, Okay, 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.480 I can do this. I can Maybe a couple of 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.040 years ago, I think it was like right as I 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:56.159 was stepping into directing Creed three and the weight of 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:59.960 that and being the captain of the ship the first 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:02.560 time being the captain of the ship in the you know, 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.639 I've made movies before, you know, I've done that. I 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.040 know what that's like, but I've never ever been the director, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.679 you know, the captain of the ship. And I think 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:17.000 that responsibility, that pressure that you know, I'm not a dad, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.639 you know, but being everybody's looking to you for the answer, 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.119 for the solve, for the leadership. And I think that 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:31.200 really thrust me into a mindset of of leadership that 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.639 I never quite had the opportunity to do before. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.200 I mean, there's so much in that great I like it. 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.840 I prefer it that way because I'm connecting all the 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.440 dots as you're speaking, and there's a I mean, there's 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.520 so many things I want to unpacked with that. One 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.560 of the things that really resonated is this idea that 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.440 you had to challenge yourself, you had to do something 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.600 out of your comfort zone, in order to even recognize 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.280 that you could become, that you could be, and that 0:20:57.400 --> 0:21:00.800 you could develop. And often we're waiting to become before 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.639 we take on the challenge. But it's the challenge that 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.800 makes us become that person. And I think we resist 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.119 even what you said earlier about the opportunities, this idea 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:15.160 that if you have opportunity, and there's an Eastern spiritual 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:19.000 teaching which talks about if you have opportunities and you 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.000 don't take them, that's a disservice to humanity because they're 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.880 opening up to you without your even without your will. 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:30.159 Sometimes right like there's some of us and we'll sabotage 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:31.639 ourselves because we'll say, oh, well, I. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.760 Didn't ask for that. I didn't I didn't know that 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:35.280 was for me. 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:37.680 And so I love the idea of anyone who's listening 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.920 or watching what Mike saying, I love the idea of 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.960 leaning into that opportunity that is opening up for you. 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:43.879 And even if you. 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.560 Don't have the skills and you don't have the talent yet, 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:48.879 or you don't have all of the tools and the abilities, 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:49.760 it's going to. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.440 Force you to develop them for sure. 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:53.200 And you talk about the coaching, I want to go 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:55.639 back to then and ask you about that, because you 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.200 want to be better mentally, physically, spiritually. It's it's a 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.600 big part of who you are. And even the projects 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.159 you take on which I want to dive into that 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.719 you said roles that challenge your spirit, Even that idea 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.320 that you're looking at a role not as oh, what's 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.439 the next movie to get me the thing, it's like, oh, 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.280 that's going to challenge my spirit. I wanted to ask 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:20.720 what has been your best habit or tool uniquely that 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.439 you've developed for your body, your mind, and your spirit individually. 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.760 What have been things that you've done with your coaches 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:32.919 in different areas that you think has brought about new epiphanies, 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.560 opportunities and ideas. What have been those tools and hacks 0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:37.840 that maybe people could lock into as well. 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.879 I think there's this woman, Ramona Oliver, that have known 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:43.800 me in my entire life. You know, she's my spiritual 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:48.400 advisor and coach. And you know, I think starting the day, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.600 you know, in meditation, you know you're taking a moment 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:55.320 to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day. It's 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:59.520 so important to step out of your home with intent 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.480 and intention. A lot of times it's what are you 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.840 projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:12.040 negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings. 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:14.680 You know, that's a big thing, you know. So so 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.640 I think, I think and we all have moments of negativity. 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.840 That's part of it. You know, it's ying yang. You're 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.399 never going to fully get rid of that. But to 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.520 practice those things in the morning, I think was a 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:26.240 big help for me. 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.239 You know, you shoot movies and you're doing things, you're 0:23:30.280 --> 0:23:30.720 walking out. 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.359 You know, there's there's there's your stories of people that 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.440 just can't get a break sometimes and and for whatever reason, 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.440 it could be from stepping off the curve, twisting the 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.000 ankle to you know, the parking ticket, to the thing 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:42.960 to the oh, I just can't get a break. And 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.080 there's certain people that carry this cloud, you know, And 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:51.520 I think some of that can be contributed to the 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:53.560 thought process and the thinking and. 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.760 The energy that you're putting into these things. And and 0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:58.760 it's sometimes easier said than done. 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:02.119 But to stop up and to reframe and to clear 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:06.399 yourself into you know, no, I'm walking in this light today, 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.920 and see how much of a difference that can make. 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.600 And more on the structurally side, this guy Drew Coogler, 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:18.159 who no relation to Ryan Coogler, who was a uh, 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.440 you know, executive coach and and you know, as my 0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:26.920 ambitions grew from a production company to brand marketing consulting 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.120 companies to you know, just the products and the businesses, 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.280 you know, the conversations I need to have with the team, 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:38.480 you know, and leadership and the everybody's coming from different backgrounds, 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:41.880 and how do you speak everybody's love language because everybody 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:44.560 You have to speak differently a little bit to everybody 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.440 so they could receive it the way you meant it, 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:50.360 you know. And I think having the quality of conversations 0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:54.240 is something that was really helpful for me, meaningful conversations 0:24:55.560 --> 0:25:01.200 and giving people the space to hear me and also 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.119 hold them accountable to the things that I need to 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:08.000 hold them accountable for. I think though the combination of 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:13.640 the two allowed me to look at situations and opportunities 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.040 differently for people to look at me differently, because it's 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:19.480 also a troubling thing when you're walking around as talent 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:20.680 for a long time. 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.119 That's how they see you, you know, and have an identity, 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.520 have an identity. 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:28.560 That's how that's what they're So there's this there's these 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:30.560 kid gloves that come along with that. 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:31.040 You know. 0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.120 What I'm saying that is it's not everybody's fault. That's 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.760 everybody's in a role. You have to sometimes just step 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.480 back and look at the thing that we're in, you know, 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:43.800 like we're in an industry you know that has generations 0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:50.680 and generations of taught behavior and practices that any positive 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.800 disruptor has to understand those things in order to disrupt 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.560 them in a way and evolve them. You know, and 0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:59.360 things are evolving, you see it. You know, the things 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.760 are evolving in a way, and if you can look 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:05.080 at it in it, you know, in a higher way, 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:07.960 I think you can find your way through that. 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.720 Yeah, yeah, that resonates. There's a You remind me of 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.480 this beautiful statement from Mark Twain where he said that 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:18.639 history never repeats itself, but it always rhymes. And I 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.280 find like when you were talking about the industry. I 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.240 was thinking about how if you don't study history, you 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:28.119 have the rhyme happening in your life. But then you 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.480 can't interrupt the patent. So if you were a young star, 0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.560 which you were. I love The Wire as well. I've 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.200 been a fan of the show. It's like, so you 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.720 start in this industry early, and then you could spend 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.720 years trying to figure out why you still have the 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.600 kid gloves on. Yeah, because you haven't studied that. Wait 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.959 a minute, that's what happens that unless you disrupt the pattern, 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.680 present yourself differently, show more of yourself, people are always 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.960 going to say he's talent, he's an actor, that's that's 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.200 what he does, as opposed to oh he's a director, 0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.920 Oh he's an entrepreneur, as he's an investor. Right, I 0:26:57.960 --> 0:26:59.639 know you have lots of investments all again in the 0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:03.000 healths space, like sports teams, and we're talking about mass 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:07.200 as well. So it's it's interesting how much if you 0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:11.200 don't study the history of our industry, we get locked 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.400 in the identity of the role we've played. 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.879 In that space, correct forever, correct, And it's so. 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.280 Easy for us to get used to feeling and often 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.639 we do it to ourselves because it's comfortable playing the 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.840 same role and there's a familiar feeling of when I 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.600 play this role. And I felt that in my own 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.160 small way, like when I went from having to create 0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.639 content to get my message out there, even though I 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.000 wanted to do TV or film or whatever and couldn't 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.240 get a break, and so I went to content and 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.400 then I launched a podcast and I told you about 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.440 why we launched this podcast earlier, and then I wrote 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.719 books and it was like every time it was like, oh, like, oh, 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.439 we thought Jay was this, Oh he's actually there. Oh, 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:55.879 And I've had to go through that. I've realized the 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.879 hardest part is you letting go of. 0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:02.439 That identity and reinventing yourself, allowing yourself right Yeah, no, no, definitely, 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.040 Like I mean have you ever like, you know, has 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.520 the podcast been something you always wanted to do And 0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.720 this is me just just curious or is it something 0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.280 that you had to read you forced yourself to read 0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:15.520 to reinvent yourself in a way, because this isn't it 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:17.280 for you? Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:18.960 know it's not you know that this is this is 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:20.800 a stop for you. This is this is a chapter 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.720 in your book. Did you ever think I have to 0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.440 reinvent myself or is that a product of the things 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.600 that we're telling you no or the things that was challenging. 0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:32.040 Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's a mix 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.680 of them all. But the thing that kind of like 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.320 supersedes all of them, which I try and tap into, 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.440 which I think you resonate with, because I think that's 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:44.320 the conversation we're having, is having a connection with your intuition. 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.440 Like for me, it's I'm not looking at like what's 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.560 the next trend or like how do I disrupt myself? 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:54.800 Because to me, those things are still following other patterns, gotcha? 0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.760 Whereas it's intuitively going like what is what is the 0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.760 thing that I bring or what do I want to do? 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:00.440 What is the. 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.320 Missing piece of the puzzle that I believe I have 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:09.560 a unique qualification to fill because if I'm always looking around, 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.280 there will always be a million things. Like I always 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.200 say to people, if you go to a real estate conference, 0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.680 you'll realize you don't invest enough in real estate, Yeah, 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:19.800 you go. If you go to a cryptocurrency conference, you'll 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.560 feel like, oh crap, I didn't do this and if you, like, 0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.160 if I sit with a group of actors, I'll. 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:25.320 Be like, oh, man, I should have said. 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.600 You're always going to feel the deficiency of the trend 0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:31.160 that you study, correct, And so if you live that 0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.040 way around, it gets really complicated because then you're like, well, 0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:35.400 do I do this or do I do that? Like 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:39.200 whereas when you go inward, it's like, oh, I feel 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:43.760 alignment with this right now because it lets me express myself, 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.880 lets me connect with people in a certain way. I 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:49.360 feel I'm at the right evolution in my journey where 0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.640 it can manifest as opposed to like, oh, let me 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:53.880 just figure out what the next big thing. 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.320 Is that if that makes so much sense, bro, And 0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:58.960 I think that's what it is, is like your alignment 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:02.720 with where you you feel truthful, you know, and sometimes 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:07.160 that always doesn't mean you're going to be financially okay 0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.080 as well. You know, you know, you can feel inspiraucally 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:16.600 in line and everything and mortgagees do you know rent 0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:17.000 is due? 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:17.440 You feel? 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.120 I mean, so there's that element of it as well 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.840 that you have to find your your way through. Yeah, 0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:28.080 that that that intuition that that north star is what 0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:32.480 is something that has led me all types of places 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.960 that I wouldn't trade in for the world. You know, 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:39.680 just that feeling of this feels right, and I know 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:44.960 doesn't make sense. Probably there's probably some other things on 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.200 paper that that seems like the better option or choice, 0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:52.600 but this feels right and and you know, more often. 0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.200 Than not, you know it's it's been the right move. Yeah. 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:57.640 I love what you were saying earlier about how the 0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.360 thought process is such a powerful way of breaking out 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.760 over the cloud of your head. And I think we 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.400 all have moments where the cloud feels like it's never moving, 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.320 it's constantly raining on you. And I think a lot 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.000 of people are listening may feel that way, Like. 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.880 Have you ever been in that place? 0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.280 And how have you What has helped with your thought 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.160 process is you've been tuning that what's worked for you 0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:19.840 at least. 0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.360 That's your moment, that's your moment. 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.440 It's not that all is lost when you're feeling the 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:29.040 most trapped and down and nothing can't go right. I 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.760 feel like those are the moments that define you, those 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.120 of those character canon moments that are like what am 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.920 I going to do now? You know, how do you 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:39.720 respond to that? 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.280 And thinking your way, feeling your way working your way 0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:45.240 through those things. 0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:47.200 On the other side, it's like, you know, I don't 0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.640 know who said the saying, but like usually you know 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.720 you're the closest to getting what you want. It's always 0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:56.200 the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready 0:31:56.240 --> 0:31:58.720 to you know, people give up right before they get 0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:00.120 what they've always want. 0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.520 Wanted to get. People quit and they give up. 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.520 And I will not be the person who quit before 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.000 I got what I wanted or what I needed or 0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:10.800 what I felt I was supposed to have, you know, 0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:14.760 Like and if that wasn't for me, it wasn't for me. 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.200 I'm gonna keep grinding. I'm gonna keep knocking on the 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:20.120 door until I get what I feel. That's been something 0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:24.040 I've always felt, having the name Michael Jordan and understanding 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.320 that there's another guy out there named Michael Jordan and. 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.600 That was the best ever to do something. 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.560 And being teased and picked on about that, and and 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.840 and and made me for a moment not wanting to 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.240 play sports. But then it was like, nah, I'm actually 0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.920 gonna make sure I'm competitive. I'm gonna compete. At least 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.280 I'm gonna compete. You're gonna at least see me. I'm 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.880 gonna be somebody that it's not gonna be. Oh his 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.240 name is this, it's gonna be Oh no, but he 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.400 can play, or oh no he can Oh he had 0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.080 he has something about him, something that is formidable, that 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.480 is above average, that is that is unique to him. 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:01.040 And again gave me a healthy chip. 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.360 You know, so so and And for the people who 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.880 are listening, who you know, who do have you know 0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:11.800 that doesn't feel like they can change the circumstances with 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.120 the way they think or they feel, just hold on, 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:20.680 Just endure, endure, you know, look at things differently. Challenge 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:22.640 yourself to look at things as the glass have full. 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:28.120 Challenge yourself to think four steps ahead, think your way 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.120 through it. Like now, we have so many tools, we 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.920 have so much information. There's a lot of misinformation out there, 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:37.720 but there's so much information too to be curious. Find 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.240 something that you that does resonate with you, even if 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.880 it's not in the world that you ever thought you 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:45.880 would be in. Find something that you align with. And 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:48.680 because everybody aligns with something, that's not an excuse. I'm 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.320 gonna I'm willing to take from anybody you know, align 0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:55.400 with something and find your find your positivity, find your 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.520 intuition within that thing, and and be obsessed about it. 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:01.760 What have you been obsessed with lately? 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.280 Like, what would you say is the thing you're most 0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.640 obsessed with right now or that you have been in 0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:09.960 the past couple of years that it's kind of just. 0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:15.600 Man, I've been obsessed with getting my team right. I've 0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:19.480 been obsessed with getting the right personnel on the right 0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:25.000 brain frequency and getting everybody on the same page to. 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:28.799 Accomplish these things that we need. 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.920 To go accomplish because I truly believe it's going to 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.600 be better for everyone. 0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:35.840 I think it's really going to make an impact, you know. 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.279 And so there's there's a there's a obsessiveness that you 0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:43.279 got to have to over communicate, to follow up, to 0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.759 be redundant, to be consistent you know that you need. 0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:50.920 And I'm obsessed about it, you know, Strengthening my family, 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:55.720 I'm obsessed over it, you know, to lead by example, 0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.440 you know, and break generational trauma and curses over it. 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:07.920 And I'm obsessed over every project that I lend myself to. 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.600 So this next movie that me and Ryan's doing, I'm 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.920 literally you know, I'm growing on my stuff out you 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.359 know what I mean, my air and stuff that now 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:19.200 I'm becoming obsessed with it, you know, and that character 0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:22.440 and it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to have 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:26.640 a thought and see it come to fruition, to create 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.480 something out of out of you know, out of an 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:33.839 from an idea, and to be persistent and to see 0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:37.000 it and to manifest it, you know, manifestation. 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:39.120 You love it, you know what I mean. It's cool. 0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:41.960 So so that's something that I've been I've been really 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:46.719 really locked in with, and I think it's also something 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.080 that it's going to help people. You know, there's there's 0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.880 always a I don't want anything that's not multi hyphening. 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.120 I want I want anything that I'm involved in it. 0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.400 It has to have layers to it, you know. How 0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:05.120 do you help? How do you educate? What's to leave behind? 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.640 What blueprint am I leaving for the next generation? You know, 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.960 I got a nephew now, you know that is looking 0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:15.799 up at me constantly, Yes, because of height, but also 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:21.400 because of the example, you know, and he's mimicking everything 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.520 I do. He're mimicking anything. I can say something, do something, 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:25.960 I can sit a certain type of way. 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:28.000 Doing it too. 0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:28.640 It's crazy. 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.680 So it clarifies your intention when you do things because 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.880 you want it to have you know, purpose and intention, 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:40.120 you know. So those are the things. And I'm obsessed 0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.400 with being the best version of myself and that's a 0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:46.800 daily thing, you know, And some days are better than others, 0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:51.040 finding myself in. 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.600 A world where there's so many. 0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:01.400 Seen opinions about yourself, when everybody's telling you who and 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.800 what you are, you know, learning how to live, you know, 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:07.839 growing up in it, like and it's so wild. I've 0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:12.160 been doing this for twenty five years straight, you know, 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.520 and that's a wild thing to think about. The man, 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.440 more than half of my life has been my identity 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:20.920 has been through the work that I've been doing and 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.920 growing up and with you know, social media what didn't 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.879 exist and now it does at a point where I'm 0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.719 old enough to understand what that can do. So I'm 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:37.279 obsessed with finding myself now after and not having to 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:41.680 prove anything to anybody other than myself and my family, 0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.919 you know, but really myself, and realizing that that is enough, 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.239 you know what I'm saying, Like that, like giving your 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:55.400 best is enough, and sometimes we lose track. 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.800 Of that, you know, And and yeah, so for anybody 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.759 out there, you know you're enough. 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.839 Man, absolutely, let's let's toast, just toasted. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.160 shake it up, it out, yeah man. 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.800 And this is the pure So we have three flavors 0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:12.279 right now, the mango, ginger, the pomegrant. 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:15.600 But this is the wet appreciation. 0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:22.240 Bro, I'm excited to dry it. Oh that's good. That's easy, easy, 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:23.000 it's easy. 0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.520 And anybody else had like fresh yeah sea moss in 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:27.000 the past, they might not have. They might not had 0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.160 a good experience becausey either, they like they kind of 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:32.320 tried to clean it and process it themselves. Smooth, smooth, 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.480 don't taste like the ocean. But it tastes a little 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.120 you know, it's it's a little heightened. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:42.040 Like it's refreshing. It's smooth, and it's easy. That's how 0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:42.680 I feel about it. 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.480 Yeah, this is like and it's a great mixture, you know. 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:48.040 You know, I don't know if you know you want 0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:48.239 to do it. 0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:50.239 We call them moss tails, but like if you want 0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.279 to do like mocktails moss tails, you know what I'm saying, 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:53.920 Or if you want to mix them like with drinks, 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.799 like with with the spirits and stuff like that. It's 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.759 a really good Uh yeah, man, I just this this 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.080 this is five years of obsession. 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:02.759 Uh. 0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:05.400 You know obviously when you know, health scares all over 0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:07.520 the place, people, you know, not a lot of information 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.839 on what's really going on, what can help, what cannot help. 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:11.960 I was, you know, finishing up a movie in Berlin, 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.120 and you know, doing my own stunts, not sleeping a 0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:17.440 lot in a feig place. 0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:17.880 You know. 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:21.360 Food was really wasn't really my thing as much, and 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:22.920 I was looking for something to kind of just help 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.360 me get through my shoot days. And I was just 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.800 chug se mars, like I mean, by the jar, just 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.640 because I mean I was up. It's got to be 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.560 doing good. I know it's doing good, you know, just. 0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:35.239 By the jar. 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:38.359 And and and then you know, almost the flight home, 0:39:38.440 --> 0:39:39.560 it was like, it's got to be a better way. 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:42.440 So I started making smoothie, started you know, blending them in. 0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:45.239 And my sister was pregnant with my nephew, Lennox at 0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.680 the time, so you know, at that point, everybody was 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.560 in their own bubble, you know, and you know, you know, 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.759 it wasn't able to kind of visit many people, so 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.319 we would just blend up smoothies, drop them off at 0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:55.879 the front door. 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:56.600 You know. 0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:58.800 That was my little care package that I would do. 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.759 I would do I would do sea moss, and I 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:02.840 would do like a you know, a homemade little pasta. 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.279 And that was my active service for my. 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:05.920 Family, you know. 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.640 So so so that that labor of love, that that 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.360 that kind of uh it started from a place of 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.200 just trying to help my family just like, you know, 0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:16.560 stay healthy during the pandemic, and it slowly evolved in 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:19.800 something that I wanted to get you know, make it 0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:20.880 accessible to everyone. 0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:22.920 Yeah, for people who don't know the benefits of seamos, 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:24.840 what are some of the things and the properties. 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.000 It's that cognitive brain, you know, it's that clarity, uh, 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.440 your your your immune system. So being able to harvest 0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.880 them in a way that that gets those nutrients inside 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:37.920 of this drink in your daily dose of moss is 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.759 something that I was really really exciting me about. Just 0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.440 like making a beverage about. 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:46.040 It is great too. It's just there, you know, it 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:47.360 makes you want to drink more of it. 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:47.759 Yeah. 0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.600 Yeah, and and yeah it's good man, it's good and 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:54.480 and it's it's uh yeah, I'm proud of it. 0:40:54.880 --> 0:40:58.200 Yeah, proud of congratulations. Now we know we got to 0:40:58.239 --> 0:40:59.920 go to yours man we left. 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.360 We love to do a mostel now with it's Junia 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:04.120 must Yeah. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.080 But I love it because Aswanda, we got a Swanda 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.120 in ours as well and gin sync, so I mean 0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.200 you got all the adaptogens in it, so that's great. 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:12.440 Yeah, No, it's been. 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.319 It's been a labor of love for us too. It's 0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.120 like me and my wife always talked about it as 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.560 our COVID baby. It's like, there's what we were working 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.160 on because we were the same. We've been addicted to 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:24.200 tea our whole lives and we did a hot tea 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:25.480 as well. But we were like, you know, for a 0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.120 lot of people, their hot drink is coffee, and we're like, well, 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.880 wait a minute, what if your soda could mean healthy 0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.560 for you and good for you? And you know, how 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.839 can we do it where it has you know, zero 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:36.640 grams of sugar, Like how do you still get it 0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.640 to taste great with no sugar? Because me and my 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.160 wife are both off of refined sugars and trying to 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:41.640 be healthy and. 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:42.200 All the rest of it. 0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.920 And then you realized that all the sodas you're drinking 0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.160 a full of it, So how do we make it 0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.720 easy for people to understand these herbs. 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:50.560 And these adaptogens? 0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:53.200 And you know, because a lot of people we grew 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:54.840 up with it. We were lucky in our culture and 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:56.319 Indian culture. You grow up with a lot of these 0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.480 herbs and spices in your daily food exactly. But a 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.239 lot of people have access to that. So it's like, 0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.040 how do you make it easy when people may not 0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.080 have in their kitchen? So yeah, man, I'll send you 0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:06.839 some to try later. 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.520 Please do you got that guy in there and everything? 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:10.680 And I love this, man. 0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.960 I was loving what you were saying about the building 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:18.000 of teams because and something you said was like, how 0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:20.320 do you keep everyone on like the same frequency and 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:23.399 like attract those people? And I went I went through 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:25.200 a big thing for that in a certain part of 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.560 my work around two years ago. A lot of people 0:42:27.640 --> 0:42:29.719 that are in my sphere today, some of them have 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:32.239 been around since the beginning and some of them came 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:34.200 on in the last two years. And it has been 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:38.239 life changing, like absolutely life changing from an energy standpoint, 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:42.480 from a spirit standpoint, and from a productivity effectiveness standpoint. 0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.120 How have you been trained or what do you how 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.759 do you sense beyond like someone being able to do 0:42:47.840 --> 0:42:50.399 the job obviously, How have you been able to learn 0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:55.040 how to sense or understand whether someone's on that same 0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.319 brain wave and as you said, or brain energy as 0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.480 you are, and has that same value you said that 0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:00.840 you have. 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.840 I think it's a lot of conversations and and and 0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:09.160 sometimes trial and error. I think my my intuition and 0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:13.640 my gut is the first you know, litnus tests is 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:15.640 the first kind of line of defense. You know that 0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:17.960 I that I have like energies, vibe, you know what 0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.240 I'm saying, Like okay, that that that that you feel 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.200 on par how you know, how you answer a question? 0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.319 What are the things that you're saying? You know? Are 0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.360 you speaking from ego? Are you speaking about you know what? 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.719 What is the what is the thing? 0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:29.920 You know? 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.840 You you know, we're used to we meet so many people. 0:43:33.320 --> 0:43:37.359 We have to use quick judgments and who gets our time? 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.360 You know, who do you open up to? 0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.840 Who do you not? And I think when it comes. 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.759 To building into a team, especially nowadays, you're coming into 0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:49.320 something that's that's well oiled. You're coming into a machine already, 0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.800 So you have to fit not just with me, but 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.120 you have to kind of fit with everybody. You know, 0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:56.520 you have to know how to communicate the things you 0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.120 need to know how to communicate to you have to 0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:00.920 The ego is something that can get in a lot 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.719 of people's way when joining a team and joining something 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:06.520 that's already really established. And I think, I think I'm 0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.719 coming to a place of learning and listening is really 0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:13.000 important and not taking things personally, I think, I think, uh, 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.080 and then it's something to the people that's already been 0:44:15.120 --> 0:44:18.239 in the team to understand that there's gonna be additions 0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.239 and there is a process of there's an onboarding, there's 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.320 a welcome, there's a thing that you have to to 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.719 bring people into the fold in a way to get 0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.799 the best out of them. So I think there's been 0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.560 there's been those learning things along the way that's really 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.480 that really helped me identify people who that fit and 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:39.120 work well within the circle, you know. And and uh, yeah, 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.480 I think that's been my my kind of process thus far. 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.080 And then yeah, I always want to create environment where 0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.279 people want to be. You know, you're not here for 0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.000 a check. You're here because you believe in what we're 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.320 doing and what we want to do. And I'm pretty 0:44:52.320 --> 0:44:55.040 transparent about those things, you know, so so I think 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:58.960 I think just being extremely transparent and forward with those 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.480 things and and know that there's nothing personal. This doesn't it, 0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.440 you know, like I'm the best, I'm the I'm a 0:45:05.480 --> 0:45:07.279 god that's always going to give you a great recommendation, 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.239 you know what I mean? Like I want I want 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.080 people to win, you know, at the end of the day, 0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.080 I want people to win, and seeing somebody in their strengths, 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.480 you know, and being like, Okay, I can use that that, this, this, 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.719 this would be helpful in this way, and if that 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.440 works out, it works out, and if not, then man, man, 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:26.480 I want to see you do well. 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:27.960 Yeah. I love that. Yeah. 0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.600 We I remember years ago I was listening to Eric Schmidt, 0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:32.880 who is the Sea of Google for a bit and 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.600 he was talking about how they were looking for smart 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.880 creatives and I love that that. They had two words 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.560 that kind of summed up what they looked for. They 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.440 look for people who are smart creatives, and for me, 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.160 it became humble champions. 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.040 I was like, I want humble winners. I want I 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:46.000 want the people who. 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.400 Can who want to win and have that ambition, but 0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:50.520 are able to put their ego aside, because then we're 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.759 going to speed up getting there because the thing that 0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.319 slows you down from winning is ego, Like the thing 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.400 that stops you from passing the ball is ego, or 0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:59.560 you know, bowing out and saying it's your turn is 0:45:59.640 --> 0:46:01.840 ego and so. But but you still have to have 0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:05.000 that champion mindship because it isn't just about oh yeah, no, no, no, 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.239 you do it your thing like and that was a 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:07.640 big thing. 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:09.279 And then the other thing that worked for me was 0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:10.640 I was like, I need to work. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:12.200 With people that I could go to breakfast, lunch or 0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.799 dinner with If it didn't work together, Yes, man, who 0:46:14.840 --> 0:46:17.080 I actually want to go to breakfast, lunch and dinner 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.560 with this person because I probably will be when I'm 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:22.840 traveling or on the road. That means I like spending 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:24.680 time with them, which means I'm haby to coach them 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.719 and I'm happy to learn from them exactly whereas if 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.400 I don't want to. And initially I was like that 0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:31.960 I used to just hire people who are great at 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.640 what they did. We didn't really have chemistry, like, we didn't. 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.240 We didn't we couldn't hang out. And that wasn't because 0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:39.640 they were wrong. It was also because I wasn't aware gotcha. 0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:43.080 And then of course, yeah, the mission, the purpose is 0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:45.080 I mean, that's core and central and. 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.319 Because even for you, I mean you spend time from 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:50.439 your family. You know, your team becomes your extended family. 0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:54.600 They absolutely they are your family, eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.640 You know, like there's there's a part of you that 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.440 you know, it has to feel like I'm getting a 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.040 little bit of my family here. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.560 And if it's not that, you know, it's really hard 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:05.080 for me. You know. 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.520 And obviously, like you know, you have a bigger company 0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.440 and there's employees and you're not going to be as 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.160 personal with everybody within the company. You know, you don't 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.080 have a brefluence to dinner with everybody. But but there's 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:19.200 a there's a there's a feeling of you know, I 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.880 don't mind on a Sunday everybody at my house watching 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:27.279 the game, spending time because that's when not the nine 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.680 to five time to be creative or the nine to 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.160 five time to do the job, that's the that's the 0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.640 extra mile. That's the Oh I had this idea and 0:47:34.719 --> 0:47:36.600 I was just thinking, oh, oh, we're looking at something 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.720 together and this would be great. The best ideas sometimes 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.640 come from those just hangout moments and those moments where 0:47:43.640 --> 0:47:45.960 you're just spending time with with with people that you 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:46.320 work with. 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:48.600 So yeah, I think that, Yeah, you're right, that's that's 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:49.240 really important. 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:49.960 Yeah, for sure. 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.240 Before the obsession point that came up, which which was fascinating, 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:54.759 I'm glad I asked you that and you went you 0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:57.080 went into it. You're talking about like, you know, you 0:47:57.400 --> 0:47:59.239 live in an industry, and you talked about social media 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.760 where people having a pin interview people even an opinion. 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:04.759 It's that people have a lens because they've seen you 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.320 in a particular light. And I was wondering, like, what 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:09.120 do you think something that people get right about you? 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:10.840 And what's something that people someone's get wrong about you? Like, 0:48:10.880 --> 0:48:13.080 what do you feel like when it comes to that, Like, 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.279 I'll tell you mine, Like I feel like for me, 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.720 a lot of people think that I get like often 0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.480 because of what I teach and what I'm sharing and 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:23.640 what I'm guiding. It's like, oh, well, Jay must get 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:25.920 everything perfect all the time, and like you know, it's 0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.560 like super deep and like always just saying profound things. 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.400 And that's not true obviously, because as much as that 0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.719 is who I am and that is my heart I'm 0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:37.919 not always like that, Like I have, I have bad days, 0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:39.439 I have bad moods, I have off days. 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:42.400 I have days when I'm not feeling that way right. 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:44.480 And so that's something that people get wrong about me 0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:48.520 sometimes in that perception because but I'm dedicated to this work, 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.200 I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed with being better. But 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:54.480 that doesn't remove me from having flaws and weaknesses. 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:57.279 And so, yeah, you should do. 0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:02.120 Alo you should do. I'll take real of those moments. Yes, 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.040 your team catch you in these little moments, and you 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:06.879 should pull one out. That'll be fun. That'll be fun. 0:49:06.920 --> 0:49:10.359 I like that. I like that, that'd be a good one. 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.319 I think for me, it is like I think I've 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:17.160 intentionally stayed out the way so much where I'm not 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:21.680 giving anybody any anything to go off of other than 0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:24.080 what I want you to know. You know, I think 0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:26.600 I think that's been it for a long time. I've 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:29.160 always had the approach of like not speaking on things 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.120 and not giving them life. You know, there's there's there's 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:34.520 going to be perspectives and there's things about you that 0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:38.680 just aren't true. Uh do you do you care to 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.080 correct somebody or not? You know, because most of the time, 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.359 people's minds are made up. No matter what you say, 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.359 it is what it's going to be. You know, stay 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.160 out the comment section, you know what I mean. You 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:49.200 get some great entertainment in there, but then you can 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:52.200 get a lot of stuff that is just people who 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:56.120 want to project the thing that's going to get the 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.600 most attention. And the issue that I have with a 0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:03.360 lot of that is they can be completely false. And 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.160 we have an industry of we were talking earlier, the 0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:10.919 lack of journalism, the skill of that that will run 0:50:11.000 --> 0:50:12.759 with those things knowing that there is. 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:13.920 No basis to them. 0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.520 But now that's a narrative that's attached to you that 0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.839 you have to be strong enough and strong minded enough 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:24.080 to ignore knowing it's not true, or this human nature 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.960 feeling of wanting to know that's not true. 0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:28.960 I want people to know this about. 0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:32.319 Me, and I've always walked on that line of. 0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:40.640 You know, not caring, trying not to care, and knowing 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.319 that I'm enough and knowing my truth and the people 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:46.520 who know me know me. You know I am about 0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:51.719 my community and my people, you know, wholeheartedly, and a 0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:53.839 lot of the choices that I make and the things 0:50:53.880 --> 0:50:55.200 that I want to do and be a part of 0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.080 is in service of that bigger picture, you know, of 0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:00.879 helping that you know, my community in a big way. 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:05.000 So I think the biggest thing sometimes if they ever 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:10.480 feel like that they're not my top priority, is maybe 0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:16.040 one of the biggest misconceptions, you know, the love I 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:21.000 have for my community. Regardless of people's approach. I think 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:25.080 everybody has a different strategy and approach to how they 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.759 affect and make change everybody. It doesn't all look the same. 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:37.240 And because it may not be typical or the average voice, 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:42.520 because the package is different and the craft and my 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.880 field is different. So I have a different set of 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:51.360 boundaries that exist in my lane that I maneuver without 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.320 in and out of. Like I love playing chess, I 0:51:55.400 --> 0:51:58.399 love I love I love strategy, I love I love 0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:03.440 reverse engineering and building things. So I think I think 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:09.680 that's one of the biggest things. And you know, sometimes 0:52:09.800 --> 0:52:12.680 ignorance and a laugh or a joke or a like 0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:19.680 or a thing we've we've encouraged the behavior of negativity 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:20.440 and things and. 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:24.520 Loudest is the thing, and that's just not what That's 0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:27.200 not what I'm into. I'm into the love of things. 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:30.640 I'm into the humanity and bringing people together the best 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.279 way and been awesome human No. 0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:34.279 I appreciate it. 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.040 I mean I also think we've put a false pressure 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:42.640 on the definition of authenticity, meaning you share everything with everyone, 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:48.200 And I'm not sure I vibe with that definition because 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.360 I think authenticity, by nature is you sharing what you 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:56.840 feel comfortable with each person. That's what it means to 0:52:56.880 --> 0:52:59.719 be authentic. And you could argue that authentic just means 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:01.960 being however you want to be in any given situation. 0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:04.799 And so I think there has become a false pressure of. 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:07.919 Oh, you gotta show you're authentic by showing every part 0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:11.720 of yourself. And I don't know if that that triggers 0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.040 anything for you. Is like, what's the definition of authenticity 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:14.320 for you? 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:16.920 Or for me? That's what it is, but what is 0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:17.239 it for you? 0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:20.600 I think it's But then in hindsight, there's a there's 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:22.520 a piece of it that not even just to go back, 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:28.480 but there's there's also like maybe that's my insecurity framing. 0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:34.520 What the loudness of the things that I'm most sensitive 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:38.120 of is this noise somehow? 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.080 Yeah, it triggers us for a reason. You know what 0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:43.560 I'm saying, Some stuff that you just go, oh, yeah. 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:44.239 Yeah, whatever. 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.359 But it's like that's just like man, like why why 0:53:47.360 --> 0:53:48.399 does that bother me so much? 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.800 Like there's something that there's something about that that because 0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:54.920 I know what that does in the bigger like, I'm 0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:58.440 always thinking bigger picture. It's very rarely that I really 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:02.080 focus on the thing. It's always about what's the cause 0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:03.680 of that in a bigger conversation. 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:04.160 You know. 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:07.520 The authenticity to me. 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.000 Is being able to sleep in night, being able to 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.720 go talk to my mom, and knowing that the people 0:54:15.800 --> 0:54:20.280 that know me every fiber of my being, my intention, 0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:24.320 knows my heart through and through that they see the 0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:28.839 same person. They're able to connect with the same energy 0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.000 and the same vibe in the same spirit. My energy 0:54:31.040 --> 0:54:34.200 has never changed, you know. I think being authentic to 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:37.080 that frequency is super important to me. No matter where 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:41.880 I go, no matter how I evolve and have to 0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.800 mature and grow up, I want my energy to always 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:47.760 feel the same. That's the way when you meet certain 0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:49.360 people and it's been years that go by and you 0:54:49.440 --> 0:54:51.200 pick right back up where you left off, it feels 0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:53.279 like no time is lost, that energy is never It's 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:57.160 always the same. And I love when people I haven't 0:54:57.160 --> 0:54:59.680 seen in a long time or come and like man, 0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:01.680 oh it feels you know, it's the same, and that 0:55:01.840 --> 0:55:04.520 that just lets me know that I'm not losing myself 0:55:04.560 --> 0:55:07.080 and I'm not losing track of you know, who I 0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:12.480 am and where I come from. And I am always 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.560 going to be an agent of change, Trojan horse or not, 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:19.000 you know what I'm saying. And and yeah, you're just 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:21.680 and continue to lead by example, you know, I know, 0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.800 I know the path that I'm on isn't easy. You know, 0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.680 sometimes you may look easy, you know, uh for the 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:33.120 successes or whatever, but but it's behind closed doors I'm 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:38.400 doing I'm doing the work. So the future generations have 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.560 it a little bit easier or have a little bit 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:45.040 more tools to use, and they can ask for certain 0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:48.360 things that won't be like what it'd be almost standard 0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:49.440 for them, you know. 0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.320 And you know, from my vantage point. 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:56.120 I'm able to see a lot of the road blocks 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:03.680 that exist within systems, you know, and paperwork and precedents. 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:08.280 I've been chipping away at those where I can in places, 0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.200 and there's so many look, I say aye a lot 0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:13.640 in this interview. There's so many people out there that 0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:16.280 are doing that type of work. You know that exist 0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.560 men and women in these places that are breaking down 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:24.080 doorriers that are chipping away, say shawshank redemption. You know, 0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.480 rock at a time, gravel at a time. You know, 0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:29.960 eventually that hole is going to be open, you know 0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:31.600 what I'm saying. Eventually it's going to be open, but 0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:36.880 just chipping away. And unfortunately everybody can't be the loudest 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:39.960 one in the room. You know, gotta be sometimes you 0:56:40.000 --> 0:56:41.680 gotta be the choir guy in the room. You gotta 0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:47.040 listen and look and pay attention and move how you 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.960 need to move. There's chest pieces that they have different 0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.480 rules and different movements for a reason, you know. And 0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:55.880 they're on the board in different places for a reason. 0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:58.960 And and uh, I know my place on the board. 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:01.759 I think that's what it comes down to, right. It's like, 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.240 I appreciate you bringing out that point around how things 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:11.760 that trigger us give us somewhere to focus on within ourselves. 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.520 Like I feel like that too, Like I'm like, there's 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.440 certain things that just don't FaZe me at all, And 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:19.960 I can look like the most detached guy and like 0:57:21.000 --> 0:57:23.880 I'm you know, I'm bulletproof, and there's something that gets 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.960 through that verse. It's just like and you know, it's 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:30.040 because there's a part of it that feels true, and 0:57:30.400 --> 0:57:32.520 there's a part of you that you've allowed for it 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:37.680 to feel true, because it could be that you are 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:40.720 there's a part of your self esteem you haven't worked on, 0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:43.120 there's something you took from your childhood and made true 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:44.560 for you, and now when someone else says it and 0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:46.800 you didn't even know where it came from. But you know, 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:48.000 I was talking to a friend the other day and 0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:50.720 we were talking about how one of his mentors was 0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:54.840 letting him down, and we discovered in that I've been 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:58.280 friends with this guy for like twenty years. We're best mates, 0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:00.920 and it was like twenty years we figured out that 0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:04.320 he'd made his mentor his father figure and he didn't 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:07.480 really put two and two together until just now, and 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:09.720 neither did I for him. And he was like, wait 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:11.920 a minute, no, wonder, I'm feeling so much pain with 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:13.960 this mentor of mine because I'd made him a father 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:17.200 figure and gone through that feeling of he's superman and 0:58:17.320 --> 0:58:19.720 now realizing he's not, even though I'm a four year old. 0:58:19.640 --> 0:58:20.520 Man for him. 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.600 And so it's just so interesting how the stuff that 0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.120 gets under our skin, it can just be hidden there, 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:30.120 and he gets stale and stuck, and then you don't 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.200 look at it because you're like, oh no, no, it's nothing, 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:34.840 it's nothing. But at one point, when you feel safe enough, 0:58:34.960 --> 0:58:36.480 you have to kind of like look under the hood 0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:37.760 and go, you know. 0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:38.560 Why is that there? 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:40.800 But coming on to the point, you were just making 0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:45.560 around paving the way for others and setting an example 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.960 and the responsibility that comes with and like you said, 0:58:47.960 --> 0:58:50.400 there's so many people doing that. I feel like, how 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:52.880 would you define your current purpose? Like how do you 0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:56.680 define with everything you're doing? Because you talked about purpose 0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:58.120 being a big thing for you, and you talk about 0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.840 the mission of your company, like what is the purpose 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.800 of that work? Which doors are you trying to open? 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.760 Which paperwork you're trying to shift, what systems are you 0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:07.440 trying to affect? 0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:08.920 I think I have my purpose right now. 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:10.280 Yeah, that's what I mean. 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:13.800 Yeah, you know, I think I have a chapter twenty 0:59:13.840 --> 0:59:18.120 five years acting, you know, producing, you know, being in 0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:22.320 front of the camera, being talent, learning so much about 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.400 the world, about myself, about the industry. You know, I 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:31.040 think being a representative from my community in a way 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:34.440 that places that a black actor hasn't gone You know, 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:36.880 obviously you have the grades, you have the Wills and 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:38.840 the Denzels. You know what I'm saying that I look 0:59:38.960 --> 0:59:40.880 up to in a big way that you know that 0:59:41.760 --> 0:59:46.440 through their talent, the business and the craft has extended 0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.920 to a new height. So they've opened up doors for 0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:50.320 me that I didn't even know what was possible. That 0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.160 now I was like, oh wow, now we have this 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:53.880 and that Now I could do that and do that. 0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:56.160 So they've kicked the door down in a way that's like, 0:59:56.960 --> 1:00:02.640 you know, internally grateful. So like leading by example is 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.240 a big purpose, you know for people to be able 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.080 to see it, because it was big for me to 1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.280 see it and think that I can do it too. 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:10.880 So that is that part of it. 1:00:11.600 --> 1:00:14.840 There's the the business side of things that I've got 1:00:14.880 --> 1:00:19.640 an opportunity to learn from investing your money, you know, 1:00:19.720 --> 1:00:22.080 what do you do with the savings and the things 1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:25.200 that you do? Have a big sports guy, you know, 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:28.600 I've always wanted to, you know, own a team. I'm competitive. 1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:30.000 I wanted to be involved in that and that in 1:00:30.040 --> 1:00:33.320 that environment that energy you know of sports and found 1:00:33.360 --> 1:00:36.240 a football team you know in Bournemouth and great. 1:00:37.760 --> 1:00:38.120 Football. 1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:42.520 I've literally had to like you know, I cannot say 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:43.120 soccer anymore. 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:45.040 Yeah. 1:00:46.080 --> 1:00:49.800 Uh and and great great partner and you know Bill 1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:52.240 Foley and he owns the Las Vegas Golden Knights, and 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:55.480 and really trying to turn that program around and and 1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:58.280 just just amplify it in a big way. But learning, 1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:03.200 you know, how to invest than those things. You know, Oh, 1:01:03.280 --> 1:01:06.800 there's going to be a new stadium. Oh, there's opportunity 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:10.200 to invest in real estate. Oh wow, Now invest in 1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.480 real estate and something that's going to be around for 1:01:13.160 --> 1:01:16.480 you know, however many year lease and this and that. Okay, cool, 1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.240 I could take that and oh wow, investing in you know, 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:26.080 started a JV for you know, underneath an umbrella company 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:29.200 to have your own product. And then from there you 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:31.680 can create another JV. Oh you can invest capital. Oh 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.280 you can have a venture for oh oh snap, okay, wow. 1:01:34.400 --> 1:01:36.600 This is a whole other game. There's a whole other 1:01:36.720 --> 1:01:42.560 nuance of acquisitions and investment in capital that I never 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:43.480 even knew exists. 1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:45.400 I'm used to you know, W. 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:47.760 Nine forums and taxes, you know, like you know what 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:49.440 I'm saying on that. You know, on the on the 1:01:49.520 --> 1:01:52.360 talent side, there's a whole other game to be played 1:01:53.880 --> 1:01:58.760 and and taking that information, just the information that that 1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:02.720 exists and what that would do to you know, to 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:06.040 to the next generation, you know, knowing what's available to him, 1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:10.280 knowing that there's other ways to maximize my my brand, 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:17.080 you know, your brand, creating things, ownership of things as 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:20.720 streamers and studios, and there's there's so many other platforms 1:02:20.760 --> 1:02:24.320 that are you know, people are content crazy, you know, podcasts. 1:02:24.440 --> 1:02:26.600 You know, it's become a business as well, you know 1:02:26.760 --> 1:02:28.800 new you know, a new venture that that people are 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.480 be able to monetize their own, their own following their own, 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:32.000 their own. 1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:35.280 Likeness in a real way. Retirement, What does that look 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:35.800 like really? 1:02:36.400 --> 1:02:40.960 You know, do you know really a will well, leaving 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:43.480 a will behind like what like I mean, no, I 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:45.160 mean there's things that you just don't get taught. You know, 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:48.560 there's nobody know so so I've stumbled on it upon 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:51.360 it these things within my success and my intuition and 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:55.680 my partnerships and my relationships that but again it goes 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:57.920 back to like the y me. This one guy you 1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:00.440 know that has got has gotten access to all these things, 1:03:00.560 --> 1:03:01.520 and my. 1:03:01.600 --> 1:03:03.560 Man over here, my guy over there, No that you 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:04.720 guys would never know about. 1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:07.720 None of these things because of how whatever your life 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.120 path has taken you is not been in these areas 1:03:10.240 --> 1:03:12.880 or nobody's at the opportunity to say those things to you. 1:03:13.600 --> 1:03:15.320 So I put that on me as a purpose to 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:18.680 be able to give that information, you know, in a 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:23.160 real way and identify the you know, people are hungry enough, 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:25.040 and you know that want it. You know that want it, 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:27.080 they gotta want it, and they gotta be a Then 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:29.240 come on, let's go figure it out, all right. Let 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:31.080 me let me, let me figure out how to help 1:03:31.200 --> 1:03:32.680 set you up with the right people so you got 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:34.960 the right conversations, you know, and then you also got 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:37.120 to be careful who you help too. You know, you 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:38.720 can't you know, you want to help everybody, but you 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:43.600 can't help everybody. But you can't leave a blueprint for everyone. 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:44.880 You know. 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:49.680 Sometimes that's all a person should need sometimes is seeing 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:53.640 it and being and the thought. Then you got to 1:03:53.720 --> 1:03:56.080 leave it on the person to do their their part 1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:59.320 of the work, to lift that part of the weight, 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:03.320 to put on that burden, to go do that for themselves. 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:07.640 Their family, they're there, they're they're people within their their circle. 1:04:07.840 --> 1:04:09.520 So yeah, for sure, I like that, man. 1:04:09.600 --> 1:04:12.920 That's I mean it's super powerful because I think, yeah, 1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:15.960 so many people don't have access, don't understand, don't have 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:18.920 the language, don't have the vocabulary. It's a it's a 1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:20.520 huge purpose. What do you do when it all just 1:04:20.560 --> 1:04:25.040 gets too much, when you're like it's a lot days, 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:26.520 you're busy, you go this gun, Like, what do you 1:04:26.560 --> 1:04:27.600 do when it gets too much? 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:31.040 With the first try to go to Japan? I try 1:04:31.120 --> 1:04:33.040 to get on the first thing smoking to Japan. 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:33.880 I'm out of here. 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:34.200 Uh. 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:36.720 It's one of the few places that I've been that 1:04:36.840 --> 1:04:40.240 I feel like I just exist, you know what, Japan. 1:04:41.480 --> 1:04:44.040 Growing up, I've been obsessed with anime. I'm a big 1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:47.080 anime guy, you know. So since I was like, you know, eleven, 1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:50.320 twelve years old, it's been anime, you know, And that's 1:04:50.360 --> 1:04:52.720 been my cartoons, comic books, anima me that's just like 1:04:52.840 --> 1:04:55.000 my you know, escapism. 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:56.240 I'm in that. 1:04:56.800 --> 1:05:00.480 And you know, growing up watching those shows, you they 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:03.560 there's so much of their identity and their culture and 1:05:03.840 --> 1:05:05.720 the dialogue and messaging and all that stuff. 1:05:05.840 --> 1:05:08.160 So I just had this idea of this place in 1:05:08.240 --> 1:05:12.120 my head that was full of respect, and. 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:17.920 It was hospitable and hard work and tradition and you know, 1:05:18.120 --> 1:05:20.080 I mean thousands of years of you know, a couple 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:22.240 thousand years of tradition, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:23.680 That you know that that exists. 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.640 And and I was like, man, I wonder what at 1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:29.800 this place is going to live up to the expectation. 1:05:29.960 --> 1:05:31.800 I was the food and the culture, all that good stuff, 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:34.560 and uh yeah, when I went, it was it was 1:05:34.720 --> 1:05:36.680 everything that I thought it would be more, you know, 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:39.680 And obviously I went went the right type of way. 1:05:39.760 --> 1:05:42.400 I you know, I created an anime as well. You know, 1:05:42.480 --> 1:05:45.040 I wanted to, like, you know, because they're they're they're 1:05:45.120 --> 1:05:48.040 so loving and and and and welcoming in a really 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:51.200 big way. And yeah, for me going there, there's not 1:05:51.320 --> 1:05:54.040 a you know, a million phones being out everybody. They're 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:57.760 very respectful of your space there, and people are going 1:05:57.840 --> 1:05:59.480 to obviously come up and say what's up. You know 1:05:59.560 --> 1:06:01.360 that that's going to happen, but it's it's in a 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:04.520 way where you don't feel like I have to hide 1:06:04.560 --> 1:06:06.960 as much. I feel like I walk down the streets 1:06:06.960 --> 1:06:10.520 there a little bit more loosely. And that's something that 1:06:11.200 --> 1:06:12.560 you know, I don't really have as much here in 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:14.919 La or you know, New York. You get a little 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:16.200 bit more of it, you know what I'm saying, you 1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:19.600 can kind of like you know, because people sometimes whatever 1:06:20.560 --> 1:06:22.880 keep pushing it, but it's it's a it's a different thing. 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:25.840 But something about Japan that was awesome. And you know, 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:28.320 in another place that I can't wait to really go 1:06:28.560 --> 1:06:30.960 is Ghana as well. Dad's been spend a lot of 1:06:31.040 --> 1:06:34.600 time there. Wow, I haven't like my skip for whatever reason. 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:37.760 Every time I'm trying to go, something that I cannot 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:41.480 change pops up. But that's a place that people tell 1:06:41.520 --> 1:06:44.400 me stories of the similar feeling of going there and 1:06:44.440 --> 1:06:46.840 the love and infinity of being in that place, and 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:49.080 I really want to go there as well. So so 1:06:49.800 --> 1:06:52.360 that that's so if I can't get to Japan, I'm 1:06:52.440 --> 1:06:55.200 usually at the house. I'm either cooking or playing like 1:06:55.280 --> 1:06:55.880 Call of Duty. 1:06:56.960 --> 1:06:57.360 I'm playing. 1:06:57.400 --> 1:06:59.600 I'm playing Call of Duty online. You know what I'm saying. 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:01.320 My boys back back. 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:04.680 You know, from from all over and uh and and 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:06.120 you know it's a place where you can get you know, 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:08.760 it's a fair game. You know, he's even playing field, 1:07:08.840 --> 1:07:10.680 you know what I'm saying. You know, some mindless you 1:07:10.760 --> 1:07:13.000 know kind of you know, you know, camaraderie with your 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:13.760 boys and stuff. 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:15.680 You know, it's I love cooking. 1:07:15.880 --> 1:07:17.800 Food is a love language for me, you know, so, 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:20.720 so being able to you know, find a recipe or 1:07:21.600 --> 1:07:25.040 try something new and combined flavors is probably you never 1:07:25.120 --> 1:07:27.840 thought would go together. And just creating those those moments 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:28.760 is another form. 1:07:28.600 --> 1:07:29.240 Of art too. 1:07:30.240 --> 1:07:33.000 And and and I like people enjoying people eating my food, 1:07:33.040 --> 1:07:35.640 you know, like like serving people and being like, you know, I. 1:07:35.720 --> 1:07:37.760 Normally don't like land, but have you had it like this? 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:41.640 And then uh, and it's having people just you know, 1:07:41.840 --> 1:07:44.600 react to that is a as a It's something that 1:07:44.680 --> 1:07:45.400 I enjoyed. 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:47.400 Doing now with boom. If we're gonna have to get 1:07:47.400 --> 1:07:48.160 you into as. 1:07:48.080 --> 1:07:51.200 Well, yeah, I gotta get Okay, that's that's that's. 1:07:52.560 --> 1:07:54.360 Okay, that's my that's my guilty pleasure. 1:07:54.600 --> 1:08:01.680 Some easy wins at first, So we'll start all Yeah, 1:08:01.680 --> 1:08:02.200 it'd be good. 1:08:02.720 --> 1:08:04.320 Dude, You've been amazing to that. 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:06.160 I've got a few more questions to ask you before 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:08.760 I let you go that. This question is like, what 1:08:08.960 --> 1:08:12.560 has been a lesson you wish you learned earlier in life? Like, 1:08:12.680 --> 1:08:14.800 is there a lesson that you learned recently? You're like, 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:16.360 I wish I learned this one earlier. 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:17.040 I think. 1:08:18.720 --> 1:08:25.800 Being unapologetically honest with what you want and that and 1:08:25.880 --> 1:08:28.200 that goes across the board. I was trying to think 1:08:28.200 --> 1:08:31.600 of something that kind of across the board, if you. 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:34.040 Can communicate your truth. 1:08:35.600 --> 1:08:38.720 And and not worry so much about how somebody is 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:40.920 going to react to what you say, because a lot 1:08:40.960 --> 1:08:43.040 of times the fear of how somebody is going to 1:08:43.080 --> 1:08:46.320 react to what you're you really want to say is 1:08:46.400 --> 1:08:49.280 what stops you from saying it sometimes and you find 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:51.360 another way, or you put it off, or you don't 1:08:51.439 --> 1:08:55.320 say it, and maybe the situation doesn't change, and you 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:57.719 get frustrated and upset with why this thing doesn't change 1:08:57.800 --> 1:08:59.599 because you kind of maybe. 1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:01.280 Might not have said it the way you wanted to say, 1:09:01.360 --> 1:09:01.519 you know. 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:04.760 And I think there's a, you know, a way to 1:09:04.920 --> 1:09:09.200 be unapologetically and still be respectful and speak your truth. 1:09:10.200 --> 1:09:14.280 If I think I would have done that earlier, I 1:09:14.479 --> 1:09:19.680 would have been further along in relationships that I have 1:09:20.000 --> 1:09:24.360 with people I care about and and not intimately I mean, 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:29.559 I mean I mean across the board, work relationships, business, family, 1:09:30.160 --> 1:09:32.720 female friends, you know, whatever it may have been. I 1:09:32.800 --> 1:09:36.120 think being honest with with with where you stand and 1:09:36.240 --> 1:09:39.559 how you feel, it's really given another person an option 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:44.320 and opportunity to be as honest with you, and whatever 1:09:44.400 --> 1:09:47.120 your fear of that is, of that outcome is never 1:09:47.240 --> 1:09:50.280 really as big as what you make it up to be, 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:52.760 you know, it's really not that. So I would say, 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:55.240 I would say maybe just being being being honest and 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:59.080 living with the results. You know, and tomorrow is not 1:09:59.160 --> 1:10:02.439 promised to anyone. But time will move on, you know, 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:06.719 you will move past it, you know, and if it'smorro 1:10:06.720 --> 1:10:08.320 will never come. At least you can know that you 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:10.960 said what you needed to say. Yeah, you know, so 1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:13.639 I think that's one thing that I feel like earlier 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:15.400 on if I could, if if I had. 1:10:15.360 --> 1:10:16.960 That, it might have been better. 1:10:17.280 --> 1:10:19.240 Yeah, that's a thoughtful longs I was thinking when you 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:21.000 were saying that, it's that we we're so scared of 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:25.880 our honesty hurting someone not realizing that us holding back 1:10:25.960 --> 1:10:28.759 our honesty is and the even more is a longer 1:10:28.840 --> 1:10:29.600 term it is. 1:10:29.760 --> 1:10:30.240 It's hard. 1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:33.160 It's a hard one because when you have to be honest, 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:35.000 it makes you look worse, it makes you feel bad, 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:36.240 It makes that best and feel bad. 1:10:36.280 --> 1:10:38.080 It gets it gets messy on so many level. 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:39.479 What if that person needed to hear it. 1:10:40.080 --> 1:10:42.800 You know, what if that person never heard that that 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:46.720 note or that that thought or perspective, and then they 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:50.479 go on in life, you know, continuing to you know, 1:10:51.320 --> 1:10:55.080 move and act and speaking away without that you're doing 1:10:55.080 --> 1:10:56.080 almost a disservice. 1:10:56.160 --> 1:10:57.920 You know. It goes back to like knowing, if you 1:10:58.000 --> 1:10:59.120 know better, you got to do better. 1:10:59.240 --> 1:10:59.360 Right. 1:11:00.200 --> 1:11:02.800 So so I think that kind of maybe speaks to 1:11:03.000 --> 1:11:06.920 a bigger thing with me of like wanting to just 1:11:07.040 --> 1:11:09.760 be better and wanting people around me to be better 1:11:09.840 --> 1:11:12.479 and grow, you know, because I guess one of going 1:11:12.560 --> 1:11:14.960 back to, you know, just the other misconceptions, like you know, 1:11:15.080 --> 1:11:15.519 a thing of. 1:11:16.040 --> 1:11:18.200 People look at me and think I got everything, I 1:11:18.280 --> 1:11:20.599 got it all. You know, it's not true. 1:11:20.680 --> 1:11:24.799 Man, Like I'm flawed, you know, and and I'm actively 1:11:24.960 --> 1:11:27.679 trying to get better daily, you know, and I fail 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:29.920 all the time, and I come up short all the 1:11:30.000 --> 1:11:32.800 time on even how to communicate, no matter how much 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:35.320 coaching I go through, and you know, and practice and 1:11:36.000 --> 1:11:38.920 and and and running conversations through my head you know, 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:41.160 in the shower and like all right, I'm gonna say this. 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:42.559 I'm gonna say that I want to hit that point 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:45.200 and okay, you know, what I'm saying, and you know, 1:11:45.280 --> 1:11:47.639 I'm just in the I'm trying to do my best, 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:48.000 you know. 1:11:48.240 --> 1:11:51.320 And I think the weight to. 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:55.439 Try to live up to everybody's perfect expectation of me 1:11:56.560 --> 1:12:00.560 has been really, really heavy for a long time, you know, 1:12:00.680 --> 1:12:03.160 And I think the last couple of years, I've been 1:12:03.479 --> 1:12:04.680 trying to maneuver out of that. 1:12:06.200 --> 1:12:08.840 Mike, we end every episode of On Purpose with a 1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:11.680 final five. These five questions have to be answered in 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:15.120 one word to one sentence maximum. There can be one sentence. 1:12:15.560 --> 1:12:19.519 I will ask you to explore it further, all right, 1:12:19.560 --> 1:12:21.519 So Mike, these are your final five. The first question 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:24.559 is the first question your ones have two parts. I've 1:12:24.600 --> 1:12:26.320 never done this before, but we do. I'm about to 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:28.439 do it because I think there's some things I really 1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:30.320 want to know. So the first question is what is 1:12:30.400 --> 1:12:32.639 the best advice you've ever heard and the worst advice 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:33.240 you've ever heard? 1:12:34.040 --> 1:12:37.559 Best advice is, if you're unsure about something, take a moment. 1:12:38.640 --> 1:12:42.400 You know, if you're unsure, uh, don't don't don't answer 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:45.599 right away. Take a moment, think about it. It's okay, 1:12:46.400 --> 1:12:48.439 you know. Don't answer just because you feel like you 1:12:48.479 --> 1:12:49.960 got to be out and be quick. And be fast 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:52.760 about it, you know, because you end up stumbling over 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:55.280 your words and and or not something of words, saying 1:12:55.320 --> 1:12:57.800 something that you don't really really mean. So I would 1:12:57.840 --> 1:12:59.800 say that's probably some of the best advice I got. 1:13:00.040 --> 1:13:03.400 Worst advice. Buy it now, you'll get it back. 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:07.760 Just what I just spend it. Now, you'll get you'll 1:13:07.800 --> 1:13:08.040 make it. 1:13:08.080 --> 1:13:11.559 Back, you know, sink. I think that's right. I think 1:13:11.600 --> 1:13:19.160 that's right. Yeah. I think at the time it was close. 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:21.400 At the time, it was closed. It was closed. 1:13:21.439 --> 1:13:23.880 It was it was it was and it wasn't even 1:13:23.920 --> 1:13:26.040 really a big close. Guys at the time, I was 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:29.240 like whatever, but it was like, yeah, you're. 1:13:29.120 --> 1:13:30.640 Right, you I'll make it back, no worry about it. 1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:32.679 Yeah, cool, of course I will, you know, like yeah, 1:13:32.800 --> 1:13:36.000 and then you know, we're on seven eleven diet for 1:13:36.080 --> 1:13:38.120 the next you know, two months. 1:13:40.040 --> 1:13:45.120 I'm going to give you a choice. Pick one of these. 1:13:49.040 --> 1:13:55.519 One. Yeah, yeah, oh man, I want to know what 1:13:55.640 --> 1:13:56.320 the other one is. 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:00.960 This is a old. 1:14:03.080 --> 1:14:08.519 Dogs my dad's dog text from the Marines. That linen 1:14:08.760 --> 1:14:18.640 jacket says, all my children. I'm saying maybe seven sixteen seventeen, 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:23.200 maybe like Disney like Super Soap Weakened or something like that. 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:24.760 I think it was like one of those things where 1:14:24.800 --> 1:14:27.560 like the soap roperas had this this weekend. 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:31.800 And uh, I think it was in California. 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:33.080 Yeah, yeah, Disney. 1:14:33.160 --> 1:14:35.320 And I want to say this is from that. 1:14:37.720 --> 1:14:39.439 I want to say that my advice would you what 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:40.559 advice would you give to him? 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:47.880 Uh, savor those moments of being a teenager? I think, 1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:54.400 you know, looking back at the teenage years, you know, we. 1:14:54.520 --> 1:14:57.840 Have a worry, know what problems we have? You know 1:14:58.000 --> 1:15:00.759 it was high school? Yeah, about homework. 1:15:00.880 --> 1:15:03.080 You know what I'm saying, like it you know I was, 1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:05.120 I was working at that time, you know what I'm saying. So, 1:15:05.360 --> 1:15:08.320 but but I would just say, like, enjoy those years, man, 1:15:08.680 --> 1:15:12.200 you know, of just of just uh of the purity 1:15:12.280 --> 1:15:12.439 of it. 1:15:13.360 --> 1:15:14.920 You know. I look back and I was like, man, 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:17.120 this is like it is a pretty pure. 1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:21.559 What would he say back to you now? Looking at 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:23.640 you now? Maybe I know you could do it? 1:15:25.160 --> 1:15:27.360 You know, I think I would tell myself that you 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:30.880 could do it too. I think I think you know, 1:15:31.000 --> 1:15:33.840 nobody thought. I mean I didn't at that time. You know, 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:36.840 I think you know, what what what could have been? 1:15:36.960 --> 1:15:40.880 What what is he had a You know, I thought 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:44.439 I had an idea of what could be, you know, 1:15:44.680 --> 1:15:46.560 I had I always have to have the optimism of 1:15:46.640 --> 1:15:47.240 what could be. 1:15:48.160 --> 1:15:48.320 You know. 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:51.720 It was just like, is follow that more? Maybe? I 1:15:51.840 --> 1:15:58.880 love that? Man? This is the other one we got funny, 1:15:58.960 --> 1:16:01.280 we just picked. These are the two that the teams. 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:02.720 I don't know if this is my birthday or my 1:16:02.840 --> 1:16:06.320 sister's birthday, but this is my grandmother's kitchen, and uh, 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:08.720 my sister was right there and I think she was 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:12.519 either helped me cut a cake or something. But yeah, 1:16:12.560 --> 1:16:15.599 that's my that's my my that was my my guardian, 1:16:15.760 --> 1:16:18.160 that was my my my bodyguard, was my sister. 1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:19.720 It's a good one. 1:16:19.800 --> 1:16:24.439 I love that, all right, question number I don't know 1:16:24.520 --> 1:16:29.080 which question we want to that's the best, That's that's 1:16:29.120 --> 1:16:32.559 what it's the best. Uh, What's what's the best part 1:16:32.560 --> 1:16:34.800 of being Michael B. Jordan and the West Bust part 1:16:34.920 --> 1:16:35.400 being Michael B. 1:16:35.560 --> 1:16:37.160 Jordan's being Uncle Mike. 1:16:38.479 --> 1:16:40.840 Man, it's a feeling of like with my nephew and 1:16:40.920 --> 1:16:44.600 my niece that I've never I've never loved something so 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:48.080 much and like wow, like whoa like? I think I 1:16:48.120 --> 1:16:51.720 think being Uncle Mike right now is the best part 1:16:51.800 --> 1:16:57.480 of that. Right now the worst part. I love multitasking. 1:16:57.560 --> 1:17:02.240 I love I love I love the juggling, the balancing 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:03.560 act of the things that I do. 1:17:03.760 --> 1:17:07.200 I love that. And the worst part is the the 1:17:07.320 --> 1:17:09.640 loneliness that comes with that. You know. 1:17:09.800 --> 1:17:12.080 I think there's a there's a there's a you know, 1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:15.439 a loneliness that I have, you know. 1:17:15.640 --> 1:17:20.600 The responsibility that you have and is isolating, and the 1:17:20.720 --> 1:17:23.880 weight is isolating. So I think I think the worst 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:27.360 part of that is is the the feeling like nobody 1:17:27.400 --> 1:17:32.479 really understands and sometimes falling into the spaces of like 1:17:33.080 --> 1:17:36.280 just you know, being alone, feeling alone. 1:17:37.240 --> 1:17:39.800 Thanks for sharing everything today, I mean, okay, question number four, 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:42.640 we nearly that four and five. Question number four, you 1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:45.400 talked about knowing your team's love language. This question is 1:17:45.439 --> 1:17:48.320 my team's love language. How does being the sexiest man 1:17:48.400 --> 1:17:49.280 of life find love. 1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:54.120 From the galves of my team? Dedicated to dedicated to you? 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:57.160 So I revert back to the last question. 1:17:57.560 --> 1:17:58.320 It's very lonely. 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:04.519 No, it's a I go back and forth between wanting 1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:12.479 partnership and then not knowing what's the best partner for me, 1:18:13.680 --> 1:18:16.760 Like bringing them into my world. What I got going 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:20.920 on isn't easy, and it's it's not just I love you, 1:18:20.920 --> 1:18:24.240 you love me. That should be enough, right, It's not. 1:18:24.840 --> 1:18:27.560 It's not quite that simple, you know. I think, I 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:32.600 think finding the right person to understand a all of me, 1:18:33.400 --> 1:18:37.320 but then all that comes with me as well, and understanding, 1:18:38.080 --> 1:18:44.439 you know, that balance between wanting to be available and 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:49.280 there for that person while I'm juggling everything else and 1:18:49.360 --> 1:18:53.160 feeling okay to put the other part of my businesses down, 1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:56.040 and you know, this sacrifice and compromise that comes with 1:18:56.320 --> 1:19:00.920 a partnership and a relationship and what is understanding how 1:19:02.760 --> 1:19:05.400 how to make that all work is sometimes gives me 1:19:05.400 --> 1:19:06.559 anxiety and pause, you. 1:19:06.600 --> 1:19:07.280 Know, and and and. 1:19:08.840 --> 1:19:10.600 Then also as a part of me that has not 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:17.760 really lived life yet, I haven't really traveled as much 1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:20.040 for fun or just like Japan has been a few 1:19:20.120 --> 1:19:21.960 times that I went where I didn't have a schedule, 1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:24.160 where I didn't have to be somewhere for press, I 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:27.040 didn't have to be these most I had to put 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:27.720 the other hats on. 1:19:28.000 --> 1:19:28.200 You know. 1:19:29.360 --> 1:19:31.800 There's so many different places and people I've never had 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:36.080 an opportunity to happenly meet that I might connect and 1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:38.800 vibe with, that might be a person that my soul 1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:43.960 connects to you know, and and I think, you know, 1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:45.360 those things. 1:19:45.640 --> 1:19:47.920 I'm looking forward to that part of my life. You know. 1:19:47.960 --> 1:19:49.519 I think the last couple of years, I'm starting to 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:50.920 get to a place where it's like, you know what, 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:52.760 I got to start living. 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:54.160 Yeah, you know, I've been. 1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:57.799 I've been, I've sacrificed, and I've been in lot zoned 1:19:57.840 --> 1:19:59.800 in for so long. You know, I owe it to 1:19:59.840 --> 1:20:01.560 my solf a little bit to do that, you know. 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:05.280 And I think that's a byproduct of being a little 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:08.240 bit of a you know, I'm a delayed satisfaction, delayed 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:12.080 gratification person like I can. I've always wanted to lock 1:20:12.160 --> 1:20:14.479 in for the first half, do what I gotta do, 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.200 get to I need to get to make sure everything 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:18.760 is straight and set up, and then be a little 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:21.160 bit more, have the freedom to move how I want 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:24.799 to move and or whatever. So that's the long winded 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:29.960 answer of of I'm not I'm not looking, But it 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:33.439 would take a very special person to understand and grow 1:20:33.520 --> 1:20:35.000 with me, you know, just you know, you want to 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:37.000 create memories, you know, I want to I want a family, 1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:37.639 you know what I'm saying. 1:20:38.000 --> 1:20:40.839 Eventually, so we'll see, So we'll see. 1:20:40.920 --> 1:20:42.600 You un lucky because I asked you that question. The 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:46.000 other question was what's his type? I like that. 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:47.760 I like that, I like that question. 1:20:47.840 --> 1:20:53.719 I like that that's the wrong question I was reading. 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:57.040 Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 1:20:58.280 --> 1:20:58.679 I wasn't. 1:21:00.560 --> 1:21:00.960 I wasn't. 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:03.400 Yeah, I wasn't. 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:08.400 Fifth and final question, if you get we asked this 1:21:08.479 --> 1:21:09.920 every guest who's ever been on the show, if you 1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:12.760 could create one law that everyone in the world had 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:14.439 to follow, what would it be? 1:21:14.840 --> 1:21:15.360 The law that. 1:21:16.960 --> 1:21:23.599 You couldn't intentionally kill or cause bodily harm to anyone. 1:21:25.560 --> 1:21:27.040 I think that covers a lot of stuff. 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:29.000 I mean, you still have you got to leave room 1:21:29.080 --> 1:21:31.679 people for humans to be humans, and everybody's not gonna 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:33.680 be good, you know, everybody's not going to have all 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:34.320 that in there. 1:21:34.400 --> 1:21:37.840 But if we can eliminate the senseless killing and. 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:43.200 You know, the bodily harms you know, of other people's 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:46.960 bodies in a real way, I think there's But then 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:49.360 there's like the systemic thing I'm trying to get out 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:52.160 of because like you know, I'm trying to eat, I'm 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:57.479 trying to level the playing field, you know, so just 1:21:57.560 --> 1:22:02.280 the economic opportunities that this already, those those systematic oppression, 1:22:02.360 --> 1:22:05.040 the systematic pressure that doesn't exist is the thing that 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:09.200 I most I most want to change, So I'm trying 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.519 to think of It's a good question, man. 1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:15.600 You keeping about it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I like 1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:18.799 you one, because it also applies to like you couldn't 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:23.840 develop products like your your question. I mean your answer 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.680 applies to food, drugs, medicine, which is kind of what 1:22:27.880 --> 1:22:30.400 keeps a lot of people stuck in the system because 1:22:30.439 --> 1:22:33.719 if they can bodily harm to me isn't just physical violence. 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:37.200 It's also the kind of things we ingest and consume, 1:22:37.680 --> 1:22:39.519 and that is what keeps a lot of people stuck 1:22:39.600 --> 1:22:41.680 because they're eating unhealthy food because that's all they have 1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:43.759 access to and that's all they can afford. 1:22:43.840 --> 1:22:45.800 And that plays with you. I mean that's what I 1:22:45.880 --> 1:22:49.280 was here in too, on a sub level. Yeah all right, 1:22:50.920 --> 1:22:51.360 I love. 1:22:51.280 --> 1:22:54.200 It, Michael Jordan, Mike, it has been such a joy, 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:56.439 and we've got to do a part two. I've got 1:22:56.840 --> 1:22:58.479 I can talk to you for hours. I've got so 1:22:58.640 --> 1:23:01.280 many questions, man, like you get into it. I want 1:23:01.280 --> 1:23:04.400 to thank you for your honesty, your openness, the fun 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:07.920 we've had bringing mass along everyone. If you're not drinking already, 1:23:07.960 --> 1:23:09.960 make sure you drink a mass while you listening on purpose, 1:23:10.479 --> 1:23:11.679 and thank. 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:12.519 You so much for coming by. 1:23:12.560 --> 1:23:15.479 I wanted for our audience please tag me and Mike 1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:18.439 with your favorite moments. I know you guys cut the 1:23:18.479 --> 1:23:21.080 best clips on TikTok and Instagram. Do that for this episode. 1:23:21.120 --> 1:23:23.520 There were so many moments where he was just downloading, 1:23:23.720 --> 1:23:25.960 and I think it's gonna have a big impact. So Mike, 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:26.519 thank you again. 1:23:26.600 --> 1:23:29.040 Man, very grateful. Thank you so much for having me Broen. 1:23:29.120 --> 1:23:32.120 It's been honored. It was worth the wait. Man, appreciate 1:23:32.160 --> 1:23:34.759 you having me anytime. I appreciate you anytime. 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:38.800 If you love this episode, you'll love my interview with 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:42.920 Kobe Bryant on how to be strategic and obsessive to 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:43.960 find your purpose. 1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:47.840 Our children have become less imaginative about how the problem 1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:51.040 solve in parents and coaches have become more directive and 1:23:51.160 --> 1:23:53.320 trying to tell them how the behaviorsus teaching them how 1:23:53.320 --> 1:23:53.759 to behavior