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I'm so grateful 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: that you're here right now, and I thank you for 39 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: investing in yourself. You know that this platform is all 40 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: about allowing the humans to be human, to give them 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: a space to share their heart, share their mind, and 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: share what's really happening behind the scenes. I think it's 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: so easy in the climate we live in to get 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: lost in clickbait and articles and views, and often that 45 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: stops us from actually getting to understand someone and see 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: someone for who they are. And today's guest is someone 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: that I've been wanting on the show for years. So 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: I'm extremely happy and extremely present, even more than ever 49 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: because this has been an opportunity I've been looking forward to. Today, 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the one and only Michael B. Jordan, 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: a director, actor, producer who's recognized as an industry leader 52 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: invested in bringing social change to Hollywood through his art 53 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: and philanthropy. Making his feature film directorial debut, Michael B. 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Jordan recently reprised the role of a Donnis Creed in 55 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Creed three. I'm a big Rocky fan, so when Creed drop, 56 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: you knew I had to see it, which had the 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: biggest opening weekend for a Creed film and biggest domestic 58 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: opening for a sports movie ever ever of all time. 59 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: I just going to clarify that. Up next, Michael B. 60 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: Jordan is set to start in Ryan Coogler's next feature 61 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: film for Warner Brothers, and Michael B. Jordan also was 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: named one of Times one hundred most Influential People of 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, he's been recognized as People's twenty twenty 64 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: Sexiest man Alive. 65 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: My team went on. 66 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: About this and one of the New York Times twenty 67 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: five Greatest Actors of the twenty first century. And now 68 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: he's got a new health drink count and you know 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of health and wellness. It's called Moss, 70 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the first of its kind, Sea Moss Beverage available nationwide. 71 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: As you're listening on watching today, Welcome to the show, 72 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Michael B. 73 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: Jordan. 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: Mike, it's great to have you. 75 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: Very appreciate it, Man, that introduction is great. I just 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 4: carry you around with me everywhere I go and just 77 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: introduce me places. But no, I appreciate it. Thanks for 78 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: having me man. 79 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to add also, like in the few 80 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: moments we've spent together, even just walking in, you know, 81 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: if I can add to that intro, you know, extremely humble, 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: gracious and like thoughtful, like it's it's almost a nice 83 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: meeting that and I and I love that this platform 84 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: is a space that can come out and we were 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: just talking about that. You were saying that you know, 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: you've almost been looking for a space where you can 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: share that because. 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: You don't do a lot of press. 89 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 4: I don't. 90 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't think. 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's seasons for it, you know, obviously, you 92 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: know when you have a project coming out or something 93 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: you need to promote. You know, there's it's a part 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: of that, that news cycle. But for me personally, I 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: try to you know, kind of say to myself a 96 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: little bit and and very cautious of how you want 97 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: people to get to know you, you know, when you 98 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: have opportunities to speak and share things about yourself and 99 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: not kind of you know, be a part of sometimes 100 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: other people's agenda. 101 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: You know. 102 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: So so that's uh. 103 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: But but been a big, big fan of yours for 104 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: for a long time and the work that you've done 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: and you are currently doing, and it felt like this 106 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 3: was a good good time to you know, to get 107 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: out and talk and and uh, you know, share some 108 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: things about me. I guess you know, I've a it's 109 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: been it's been a journey. You know, it's been it's 110 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: been a journey. So uh, you know, this is a 111 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: nice little check in point. 112 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I love that well, I appreciate the 113 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: trust and I love that checking point because it must 114 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: be fascinating to look back at something and then think 115 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: about where you were in life, what was going on 116 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: in your mind. So I wanted to start with there 117 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: was this one thing you said in an interview, and 118 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about this earlier, this idea of written 119 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: versus being able to explain, and there was this great 120 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: point you made that I think people wouldn't recognize with 121 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: the amount of success you've had, the hits you've had. 122 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think people want to know about you 123 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and learn about you. But you said, when you come 124 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: from where I come from and everybody doesn't get those 125 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: breaks that luck, you start to question why am I 126 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: successful in life? Why did I go this way and 127 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: everybody went that way? And I just thought that that was, 128 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, again extremely humble and also representative of where 129 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: you grew up, how you came up, Like which way 130 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: did everyone go and where did that luck begin for you? 131 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 3: You know, I think coming up in North New Jersey, 132 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: coming up in that environment, and you know, having you know, 133 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: when you're younger, you know you're living life. You know 134 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: you're taking it a day at a time. You know 135 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: you're going a boat, well practice, you're going to school, 136 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 3: you know you're going to church, you know you're you're Yeah. 137 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: For me, it was you know, taking a lot of 138 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: trips to New York City, going on auditions at a 139 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: really really young age and just figuring out what what 140 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: what that is? Having having parents pretty aware, you know, 141 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 3: and and very present in my life, you know, growing up. Uh, 142 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: you know, that was that was rare amongst my family, 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: amongst my friend group, you know, having both parents that 144 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: was there and very present and aware of my environment 145 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: as well. You know what what uh, you know, being 146 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: told to look out for these things and uh make 147 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: good choices, to be disciplined, to be focused on things, 148 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: you know, get your school, you know, all the the 149 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: you know, the the positives and in growing up in 150 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: an environment like that, and you know, hats off to 151 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: my parents and to uh to sacrifice so much to 152 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: make sure their kids, you know, were safe and grew 153 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: up and you know, and you know, grew up in 154 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: an environment ain't easy making ends meet, you know, grew 155 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: up very poor, but didn't. 156 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 4: Feel like it. You know what I'm saying. It was 157 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: very you know, I think they did a good job 158 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 4: at hiding those things. You know. I think as we 159 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: get older, we look back. 160 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: It was like, oh man, we went through that or 161 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: that's why we slept in the kitchen at one time 162 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: with the oven open, or oh, that's when we stayed 163 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: at Grandma's house for like, you know, a couple of 164 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: weeks when you you know, so you get that reflection 165 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: of how we kind of grew up. And and I 166 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: think for me, you know, always having a you know, 167 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: a bigger purpose, I think, or just you know, just 168 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: that optimism. 169 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: You know that that I was a big dreamer as. 170 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: A kid, and I think, you know, you start to 171 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: not just to focus on the just the work of 172 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: it all. But since I was working such a young age, 173 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: that's the thing that I can kind of point to of, 174 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: you know, booking auditions and getting this job and traveling 175 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: to this place and experiencing these things and coming back 176 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: home with these experiences and not having a lot of 177 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: people who could relate or could you know, I could 178 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: soundboard off of. And I think in feeling like that, 179 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: you don't want to alienate those people, you know, And 180 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: I think, and this is all I guess, in hindsight, 181 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: you don't share these stories as much. You know, maybe 182 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: you should because you don't want somebody to feel like 183 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 3: inadequate or you know, not being able to have that 184 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: experience that you might have had. And I think, you know, 185 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: that's snowballs. As you get older and from stepping stone 186 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: to stepping stone, as as I continue to be successful 187 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: at at at a young age, you start to question 188 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: why am I being so successful? And the people that 189 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: look just like me, that are right next to me 190 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: and these everyday things aren't necessarily doing that or not 191 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: choosing to you know, just didn't have those options that 192 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: were laid out to them. 193 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 194 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: And I think it you start to doubt yourself for 195 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: whatever reason, or feel guilty for. 196 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: The things that you may or may not have, even. 197 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: Though you know, our parents were people of service, you know, 198 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: block parties or you know, cooking church dinners or. 199 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 4: You know whenever. 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: You know, my house was the house that everybody came 201 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: to at some point, whether we were going to get 202 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: pizza that night, or Dad was going to take everybody 203 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 3: camping or going to these things like it was that 204 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: was kind of my house, within within my neighborhood and community. 205 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: And and so I think for me being a person 206 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: of service kind of because you know, it's kind of 207 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: comes from how I was raised. And and those are 208 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: the examples that I knew growing up. I always felt 209 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 3: lucky too. As you become more successful and you you 210 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 3: see less people look like you that are being successful 211 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: in this in this realm, and you end up being 212 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: the one guy that looks like me that successful or 213 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 3: the couple guys that are the usual suspects that you 214 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: see in the audition room or in things of that nature. 215 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: You know, you start to sometimes question. 216 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: Why, why why are you now? I can? 217 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: I feel as though it was my It was my path, 218 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: you know, it was my purpose and spirituality and growing 219 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: up in a in a household that was very focused 220 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 3: on you know, you know, church and spiritual and meditation 221 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: and and and just being. 222 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 4: Aware of the world that we live in. 223 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: You know, I felt I was destined for for something, 224 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: not knowing what that was, but just something. 225 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 226 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when I'm when I'm hearing that, it 227 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: sounds like I love what you said. You were like 228 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, they hit we were poor and we didn't 229 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: even see that. But this idea of like you sound 230 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: So when I when I see you talk about your family, 231 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: and for those of you're watching, you can see it 232 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: on Mike's face. But there's so much joy and there's 233 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: bliss and there's like a there's like a happiness when 234 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: you're looking back on that time, Like I can see 235 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: it's a positive experience because of how you feel you've 236 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: been loved and cared for and supported, even though the 237 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: resources may not have been there or the access or opportunities. 238 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: And I was wondering when I was listening to you, like, 239 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: is there a memory or an experience from your childhood 240 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: that you think defines who you are today? Like, was 241 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: there a memory or a story that you have in 242 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: your mind of an experience you went through that you 243 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: think brings out maybe that service element or brings out 244 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: that purposeful element. 245 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: And I think there's this blissedness, this this appreciation for 246 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: how I grew up comes in hindsight, you know, like 247 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: you know the first time you have a moment where 248 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: you're like pick up the phone, you know, one morning 249 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: you just call your mom and be like thank you. 250 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 4: I get it, and I'm sorry. 251 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: I'm sorry for for being that kid at some point, 252 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: and I'm so sorry for not understanding. 253 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 4: I totally get what you guys are going through. 254 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: Sheesh. I love you guys. 255 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: You know, like you have those moments when you get older, 256 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: you know that you just can't really have that perspective 257 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: when you're When you were a kid, and I think, 258 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: you know, I was very mischievous, you know as well. 259 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: And I think there were moments when my dad disciplined me, 260 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: you know, for for for whatever the you know, whatever 261 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: I did at that time, and then my mom would 262 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 3: have a conversation around the why and then being also 263 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: forced or pushed and nudged into a space where you 264 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: had to acknowledge your siblings also, you know, in that 265 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 3: situation and the importance of family and what that means. 266 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, my parents have different upbringings, you know what 267 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: I'm saying from you know, uh, and different families structures 268 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: growing up, but one thing they've always provided us with 269 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: is just a sense of like family over everything, you know, 270 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: and how important that is, and that just kind of 271 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: kept the groundedness to me throughout. So I think just 272 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: the experiences of just family. 273 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: I like your point of behind sight. 274 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: I've definitely made that call to my mom for sure, Like, yeah, 275 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: I made that call to my mom when we were 276 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: on the same age. So for me, it's like I've 277 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: made that call and I think I made it probably 278 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: like twenty five. It was probably around them when I 279 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: finally made that call, And not that I did love 280 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: my mom before that, of course I did, but it 281 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: was like that honest understanding of just how hard it 282 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: was to do what she did because she was raising 283 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: two kids, she was dropping us to school, picking us up. 284 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: She was the breadwinner of the family. She made us breakfast, lunch, 285 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: and dinner fresh every day. And you don't recognize that 286 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: as a kid. You don't realize the sacrifice, the hustle 287 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: and always making you feel loved on top of doing 288 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: all of that. It's hard work. You've talked to you 289 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: said that now you feel you've got to a place 290 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: that it's your path. What was that switch for you 291 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: that went from like I don't deserve this God, like 292 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: I feel out of place, I'm lucky, to being like, no, actually, 293 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: now I see it as this was meant to be 294 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: my path because I think a lot of people and 295 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners will be there, like a 296 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: lot of people are like they're making moves and maybe 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: their first person in their family to go to college, 298 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: or maybe they're the first person who started up a 299 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: business as an entrepreneur, or maybe one of our listeners 300 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: is trying to break generational trauma and they're the first 301 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: person to spot it. Yes, but then they all live 302 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: in that space like can I do this? Like am 303 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: I the one to do this? And so what was 304 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: it that made that switch from like I'm not sure 305 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm the guy, but oh it is my path. 306 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: It's the sum of all things leading up into that point. 307 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: I think it's all the doubt. It's the impostor syndrome. 308 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 3: It's the blessings that you can't really accept fully. And 309 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: you listen to other people's who are successful, or you 310 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: see examples that you kind of feel connected to, like man, 311 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: that that kind of feels like me, or what he 312 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 3: just said or what she just said. I kind of 313 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 3: I resonate with that, you know, I feel like that 314 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: Sometimes you know other people who are looking at you saying, no, Mike, 315 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: this is what you have, this is what you can be, this. 316 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 4: Is what you are. Nah, nah, I can't know that. 317 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: That's too good. 318 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: No, that ain't me. 319 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: You know, your own presence in a situation where you 320 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: have to step back and look at yourself. 321 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: And be like, am I this guy right now? Like, 322 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: oh man, there's a room. 323 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: Full of people who showed up because it's something I'm 324 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: doing and they're in service or in support of my idea, 325 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: my thing. 326 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: Okay, that looks and feels like I'm the guy. 327 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: Okay, you're in I'm in the industry where you know, 328 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: you're the success of your work and your art has 329 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,479 Speaker 3: been you know, dictated and validated by other people's opinions, 330 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: and whether those opinions are factual or projected on you 331 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 3: from their own individual perspective. I think it's it was 332 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: a combination of all those things. And I've always been 333 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 3: curious and walked towards the how do I make myself better? 334 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: What are the things that I need, the tools that 335 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: I need in order to improve myself the way I think, 336 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: the way how do I maximize myself? You know, so 337 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: from I think getting a you know, an executive coach, 338 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 3: you know who talks to executives all day and and 339 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: and you know how to create healthy conversations, the right 340 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: type of conversations that have as you're building a team 341 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: around you, because. 342 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: You know, as you know, it's not just us, you know, 343 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 4: we have an. 344 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: Entire team of people that surround us that help us 345 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 3: achieve our dreams and get the big idea done. A 346 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: spiritual advisor, a spiritual coach that I have who you 347 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: know helps me, uh do my energy work, my spiritual work, 348 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: and and and and help sift through the noise and 349 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: and and and find those things. And I think it 350 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: wasn't until I had, you know, roles that challenged my 351 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: spirit and myself in a real way that that that 352 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: that and the weight and where the attention was so 353 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 3: loud that it was you know, it was deafening, and 354 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: it was and I couldn't you know, see clearly. And 355 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: you know these champagne problems, you know what I'm saying. 356 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: You know, you know that like you know, we're blessed, 357 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: so but the weight is so heavy, you know, and 358 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: people sometimes think and they see what we have or 359 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: what you know, or what we're you know, what we're doing, 360 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, just be grateful, you know, or 361 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: just you know, what are you complaining about? 362 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: You know? 363 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: And and you know most people wouldn't be to walk, 364 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: you know, a block in our shoes, you know, with 365 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 3: with this stuff. And I think it was and you 366 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 3: have moments where you you resent things and you're angry 367 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: at you know, the feelings that you accumulate for not 368 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: being clear or or not understanding you know why this. 369 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot of wise and you're not going to 370 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: get all the answers, but you want to, you know, 371 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: be able to get to a place where you're you're clear. 372 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 4: So to answer a question, when did I decide? When 373 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: did I like, you know, when did I feel like that? 374 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 3: Maybe two years ago, maybe a year ago. You look 375 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: at where your family has come from, and shit, look 376 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: at your bloodline. You know you look you look at 377 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: you know your community. You're like, man, there's a cycle 378 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: there from generation to generation that happens when you get 379 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: to yourself. 380 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 2: And you're like, man, can I stop this? 381 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 4: Can I change this? 382 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: I could do this. 383 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: Once you it's like once you, once you know better, 384 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: you got to almost do better. Once you see it, 385 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: you can't unsee it. And I refuse to ignore it. 386 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: I refuse to see it an opportunity that I had 387 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: to change things and act like it didn't exist. And 388 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: I think that was the thing for me that I 389 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: was like, nah, I gotta, I gotta If that's my purpose, 390 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: if that's my path is to just see it and 391 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 3: I can see the pieces and that if I can 392 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: just continue to do this, or if I stay down 393 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: the pathway on that and I might be able to 394 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: make a big difference in my nephew's life or my 395 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: my future children's, my future grandchildren's life. I gotta do 396 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 3: that because there's been so many people that might that 397 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: didn't that that it wasn't the perfect storm for them 398 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: to have that opportunity. 399 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 4: It wasn't the right time in the world. 400 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 3: Technology wasn't there, the resources, the right social conversations are 401 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: being had for for us to have these platforms and 402 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: speak and be successful the. 403 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: Way we are. You know, you gotta you gotta do it. 404 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: And I think that was a big part of it, 405 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 3: you know, you know, understanding my own mortality, you know, 406 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: and understanding you know, you know, life isn't you know, 407 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: isn't a forever thing. And I think that happens when 408 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 3: you get older too, you know what I'm saying, Like, 409 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: you know, just turned thirty seven, and it's like, wow, 410 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 3: I vividly remember, you know, fifteen, I vividly remember twenty one. 411 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: I remember vividly remember twenty five, thirty, you know, And 412 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: I used to look at thirty five thirty seven like 413 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 3: like ancient you know, what I'm saying, and I'm like, 414 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: oh man, we're here, and it's like, you gotta do 415 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: what you gotta do while you're here and make an impact. 416 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: You gotta fulfill your You got to fulfill yourself whatever 417 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: that may be, you know. 418 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 4: And uh and I think so. 419 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that moment for me where it was like, Okay, 420 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: I can do this. I can Maybe a couple of 421 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: years ago, I think it was like right as I 422 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: was stepping into directing Creed three and the weight of 423 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: that and being the captain of the ship the first 424 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: time being the captain of the ship in the you know, 425 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: I've made movies before, you know, I've done that. I 426 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: know what that's like, but I've never ever been the director, 427 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 3: you know, the captain of the ship. And I think 428 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: that responsibility, that pressure that you know, I'm not a dad, 429 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: you know, but being everybody's looking to you for the answer, 430 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 3: for the solve, for the leadership. And I think that 431 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: really thrust me into a mindset of of leadership that 432 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 3: I never quite had the opportunity to do before. 433 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much in that great I like it. 434 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: I prefer it that way because I'm connecting all the 435 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: dots as you're speaking, and there's a I mean, there's 436 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: so many things I want to unpacked with that. One 437 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: of the things that really resonated is this idea that 438 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: you had to challenge yourself, you had to do something 439 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone, in order to even recognize 440 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: that you could become, that you could be, and that 441 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: you could develop. And often we're waiting to become before 442 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: we take on the challenge. But it's the challenge that 443 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: makes us become that person. And I think we resist 444 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: even what you said earlier about the opportunities, this idea 445 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: that if you have opportunity, and there's an Eastern spiritual 446 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: teaching which talks about if you have opportunities and you 447 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: don't take them, that's a disservice to humanity because they're 448 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: opening up to you without your even without your will. 449 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: Sometimes right like there's some of us and we'll sabotage 450 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: ourselves because we'll say, oh, well, I. 451 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: Didn't ask for that. I didn't I didn't know that 452 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: was for me. 453 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: And so I love the idea of anyone who's listening 454 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: or watching what Mike saying, I love the idea of 455 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: leaning into that opportunity that is opening up for you. 456 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: And even if you. 457 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: Don't have the skills and you don't have the talent yet, 458 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: or you don't have all of the tools and the abilities, 459 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: it's going to. 460 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: Force you to develop them for sure. 461 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: And you talk about the coaching, I want to go 462 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: back to then and ask you about that, because you 463 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: want to be better mentally, physically, spiritually. It's it's a 464 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: big part of who you are. And even the projects 465 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: you take on which I want to dive into that 466 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,719 Speaker 1: you said roles that challenge your spirit, Even that idea 467 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: that you're looking at a role not as oh, what's 468 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: the next movie to get me the thing, it's like, oh, 469 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: that's going to challenge my spirit. I wanted to ask 470 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: what has been your best habit or tool uniquely that 471 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: you've developed for your body, your mind, and your spirit individually. 472 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: What have been things that you've done with your coaches 473 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: in different areas that you think has brought about new epiphanies, 474 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: opportunities and ideas. What have been those tools and hacks 475 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: that maybe people could lock into as well. 476 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: I think there's this woman, Ramona Oliver, that have known 477 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: me in my entire life. You know, she's my spiritual 478 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: advisor and coach. And you know, I think starting the day, 479 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 3: you know, in meditation, you know you're taking a moment 480 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day. It's 481 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: so important to step out of your home with intent 482 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: and intention. A lot of times it's what are you 483 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of 484 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings. 485 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: You know, that's a big thing, you know. So so 486 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: I think, I think and we all have moments of negativity. 487 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: That's part of it. You know, it's ying yang. You're 488 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 3: never going to fully get rid of that. But to 489 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: practice those things in the morning, I think was a 490 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: big help for me. 491 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 4: You know, you shoot movies and you're doing things, you're 492 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: walking out. 493 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's there's your stories of people that 494 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 3: just can't get a break sometimes and and for whatever reason, 495 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 3: it could be from stepping off the curve, twisting the 496 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 3: ankle to you know, the parking ticket, to the thing 497 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: to the oh, I just can't get a break. And 498 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: there's certain people that carry this cloud, you know, And 499 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: I think some of that can be contributed to the 500 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: thought process and the thinking and. 501 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: The energy that you're putting into these things. And and 502 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 4: it's sometimes easier said than done. 503 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: But to stop up and to reframe and to clear 504 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 3: yourself into you know, no, I'm walking in this light today, 505 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 3: and see how much of a difference that can make. 506 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: And more on the structurally side, this guy Drew Coogler, 507 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 3: who no relation to Ryan Coogler, who was a uh, 508 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, executive coach and and you know, as my 509 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 3: ambitions grew from a production company to brand marketing consulting 510 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 3: companies to you know, just the products and the businesses, 511 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: you know, the conversations I need to have with the team, 512 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: you know, and leadership and the everybody's coming from different backgrounds, 513 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: and how do you speak everybody's love language because everybody 514 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 3: You have to speak differently a little bit to everybody 515 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 3: so they could receive it the way you meant it, 516 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 3: you know. And I think having the quality of conversations 517 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: is something that was really helpful for me, meaningful conversations 518 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: and giving people the space to hear me and also 519 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 3: hold them accountable to the things that I need to 520 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: hold them accountable for. I think though the combination of 521 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: the two allowed me to look at situations and opportunities 522 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: differently for people to look at me differently, because it's 523 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: also a troubling thing when you're walking around as talent 524 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: for a long time. 525 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: That's how they see you, you know, and have an identity, 526 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: have an identity. 527 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: That's how that's what they're So there's this there's these 528 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: kid gloves that come along with that. 529 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: You know. 530 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 3: What I'm saying that is it's not everybody's fault. That's 531 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: everybody's in a role. You have to sometimes just step 532 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: back and look at the thing that we're in, you know, 533 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: like we're in an industry you know that has generations 534 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 3: and generations of taught behavior and practices that any positive 535 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: disruptor has to understand those things in order to disrupt 536 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 3: them in a way and evolve them. You know, and 537 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: things are evolving, you see it. You know, the things 538 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: are evolving in a way, and if you can look 539 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: at it in it, you know, in a higher way, 540 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: I think you can find your way through that. 541 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that resonates. There's a You remind me of 542 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: this beautiful statement from Mark Twain where he said that 543 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: history never repeats itself, but it always rhymes. And I 544 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: find like when you were talking about the industry. I 545 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: was thinking about how if you don't study history, you 546 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: have the rhyme happening in your life. But then you 547 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: can't interrupt the patent. So if you were a young star, 548 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: which you were. I love The Wire as well. I've 549 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: been a fan of the show. It's like, so you 550 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: start in this industry early, and then you could spend 551 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: years trying to figure out why you still have the 552 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: kid gloves on. Yeah, because you haven't studied that. Wait 553 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: a minute, that's what happens that unless you disrupt the pattern, 554 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: present yourself differently, show more of yourself, people are always 555 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: going to say he's talent, he's an actor, that's that's 556 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: what he does, as opposed to oh he's a director, 557 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: Oh he's an entrepreneur, as he's an investor. Right, I 558 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: know you have lots of investments all again in the 559 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: healths space, like sports teams, and we're talking about mass 560 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: as well. So it's it's interesting how much if you 561 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: don't study the history of our industry, we get locked 562 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: in the identity of the role we've played. 563 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: In that space, correct forever, correct, And it's so. 564 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: Easy for us to get used to feeling and often 565 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: we do it to ourselves because it's comfortable playing the 566 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: same role and there's a familiar feeling of when I 567 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: play this role. And I felt that in my own 568 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: small way, like when I went from having to create 569 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: content to get my message out there, even though I 570 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do TV or film or whatever and couldn't 571 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: get a break, and so I went to content and 572 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: then I launched a podcast and I told you about 573 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: why we launched this podcast earlier, and then I wrote 574 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 1: books and it was like every time it was like, oh, like, oh, 575 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: we thought Jay was this, Oh he's actually there. Oh, 576 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: And I've had to go through that. I've realized the 577 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: hardest part is you letting go of. 578 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: That identity and reinventing yourself, allowing yourself right Yeah, no, no, definitely, 579 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: Like I mean have you ever like, you know, has 580 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: the podcast been something you always wanted to do And 581 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: this is me just just curious or is it something 582 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: that you had to read you forced yourself to read 583 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: to reinvent yourself in a way, because this isn't it 584 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: for you? Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I 585 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 3: know it's not you know that this is this is 586 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: a stop for you. This is this is a chapter 587 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: in your book. Did you ever think I have to 588 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: reinvent myself or is that a product of the things 589 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: that we're telling you no or the things that was challenging. 590 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's a mix 591 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: of them all. But the thing that kind of like 592 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: supersedes all of them, which I try and tap into, 593 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: which I think you resonate with, because I think that's 594 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: the conversation we're having, is having a connection with your intuition. 595 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: Like for me, it's I'm not looking at like what's 596 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: the next trend or like how do I disrupt myself? 597 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: Because to me, those things are still following other patterns, gotcha? 598 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: Whereas it's intuitively going like what is what is the 599 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: thing that I bring or what do I want to do? 600 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: What is the. 601 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Missing piece of the puzzle that I believe I have 602 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: a unique qualification to fill because if I'm always looking around, 603 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: there will always be a million things. Like I always 604 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: say to people, if you go to a real estate conference, 605 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you'll realize you don't invest enough in real estate, Yeah, 606 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: you go. If you go to a cryptocurrency conference, you'll 607 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: feel like, oh crap, I didn't do this and if you, like, 608 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: if I sit with a group of actors, I'll. 609 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 4: Be like, oh, man, I should have said. 610 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: You're always going to feel the deficiency of the trend 611 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: that you study, correct, And so if you live that 612 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: way around, it gets really complicated because then you're like, well, 613 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: do I do this or do I do that? Like 614 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: whereas when you go inward, it's like, oh, I feel 615 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: alignment with this right now because it lets me express myself, 616 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: lets me connect with people in a certain way. I 617 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: feel I'm at the right evolution in my journey where 618 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: it can manifest as opposed to like, oh, let me 619 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: just figure out what the next big thing. 620 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: Is that if that makes so much sense, bro, And 621 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: I think that's what it is, is like your alignment 622 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: with where you you feel truthful, you know, and sometimes 623 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: that always doesn't mean you're going to be financially okay 624 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: as well. You know, you know, you can feel inspiraucally 625 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: in line and everything and mortgagees do you know rent 626 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: is due? 627 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 2: You feel? 628 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: I mean, so there's that element of it as well 629 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: that you have to find your your way through. Yeah, 630 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: that that that intuition that that north star is what 631 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 3: is something that has led me all types of places 632 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: that I wouldn't trade in for the world. You know, 633 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: just that feeling of this feels right, and I know 634 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. Probably there's probably some other things on 635 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: paper that that seems like the better option or choice, 636 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: but this feels right and and you know, more often. 637 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: Than not, you know it's it's been the right move. Yeah. 638 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: I love what you were saying earlier about how the 639 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: thought process is such a powerful way of breaking out 640 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: over the cloud of your head. And I think we 641 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: all have moments where the cloud feels like it's never moving, 642 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: it's constantly raining on you. And I think a lot 643 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: of people are listening may feel that way, Like. 644 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever been in that place? 645 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: And how have you What has helped with your thought 646 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: process is you've been tuning that what's worked for you 647 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: at least. 648 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: That's your moment, that's your moment. 649 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: It's not that all is lost when you're feeling the 650 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 3: most trapped and down and nothing can't go right. I 651 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 3: feel like those are the moments that define you, those 652 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: of those character canon moments that are like what am 653 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: I going to do now? You know, how do you 654 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: respond to that? 655 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: And thinking your way, feeling your way working your way 656 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: through those things. 657 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: On the other side, it's like, you know, I don't 658 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 3: know who said the saying, but like usually you know 659 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: you're the closest to getting what you want. It's always 660 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready 661 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: to you know, people give up right before they get 662 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: what they've always want. 663 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 4: Wanted to get. People quit and they give up. 664 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: And I will not be the person who quit before 665 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: I got what I wanted or what I needed or 666 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: what I felt I was supposed to have, you know, 667 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: Like and if that wasn't for me, it wasn't for me. 668 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep grinding. I'm gonna keep knocking on the 669 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: door until I get what I feel. That's been something 670 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: I've always felt, having the name Michael Jordan and understanding 671 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 3: that there's another guy out there named Michael Jordan and. 672 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 4: That was the best ever to do something. 673 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: And being teased and picked on about that, and and 674 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: and and made me for a moment not wanting to 675 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: play sports. But then it was like, nah, I'm actually 676 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: gonna make sure I'm competitive. I'm gonna compete. At least 677 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna compete. You're gonna at least see me. I'm 678 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: gonna be somebody that it's not gonna be. Oh his 679 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: name is this, it's gonna be Oh no, but he 680 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: can play, or oh no he can Oh he had 681 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: he has something about him, something that is formidable, that 682 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: is above average, that is that is unique to him. 683 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 4: And again gave me a healthy chip. 684 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: You know, so so and And for the people who 685 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 3: are listening, who you know, who do have you know 686 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: that doesn't feel like they can change the circumstances with 687 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 3: the way they think or they feel, just hold on, 688 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: Just endure, endure, you know, look at things differently. Challenge 689 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: yourself to look at things as the glass have full. 690 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: Challenge yourself to think four steps ahead, think your way 691 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: through it. Like now, we have so many tools, we 692 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: have so much information. There's a lot of misinformation out there, 693 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: but there's so much information too to be curious. Find 694 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: something that you that does resonate with you, even if 695 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: it's not in the world that you ever thought you 696 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: would be in. Find something that you align with. And 697 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: because everybody aligns with something, that's not an excuse. I'm 698 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: gonna I'm willing to take from anybody you know, align 699 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: with something and find your find your positivity, find your 700 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: intuition within that thing, and and be obsessed about it. 701 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: What have you been obsessed with lately? 702 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: Like, what would you say is the thing you're most 703 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: obsessed with right now or that you have been in 704 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: the past couple of years that it's kind of just. 705 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: Man, I've been obsessed with getting my team right. I've 706 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: been obsessed with getting the right personnel on the right 707 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: brain frequency and getting everybody on the same page to. 708 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 4: Accomplish these things that we need. 709 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: To go accomplish because I truly believe it's going to 710 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: be better for everyone. 711 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 4: I think it's really going to make an impact, you know. 712 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 3: And so there's there's a there's a obsessiveness that you 713 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 3: got to have to over communicate, to follow up, to 714 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 3: be redundant, to be consistent you know that you need. 715 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: And I'm obsessed about it, you know, Strengthening my family, 716 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed over it, you know, to lead by example, 717 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 3: you know, and break generational trauma and curses over it. 718 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: And I'm obsessed over every project that I lend myself to. 719 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: So this next movie that me and Ryan's doing, I'm 720 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: literally you know, I'm growing on my stuff out you 721 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean, my air and stuff that now 722 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: I'm becoming obsessed with it, you know, and that character 723 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: and it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to have 724 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: a thought and see it come to fruition, to create 725 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 3: something out of out of you know, out of an 726 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: from an idea, and to be persistent and to see 727 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: it and to manifest it, you know, manifestation. 728 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 4: You love it, you know what I mean. It's cool. 729 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 3: So so that's something that I've been I've been really 730 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: really locked in with, and I think it's also something 731 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: that it's going to help people. You know, there's there's 732 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: always a I don't want anything that's not multi hyphening. 733 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: I want I want anything that I'm involved in it. 734 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 3: It has to have layers to it, you know. How 735 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 3: do you help? How do you educate? What's to leave behind? 736 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: What blueprint am I leaving for the next generation? You know, 737 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: I got a nephew now, you know that is looking 738 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 3: up at me constantly, Yes, because of height, but also 739 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 3: because of the example, you know, and he's mimicking everything 740 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: I do. He're mimicking anything. I can say something, do something, 741 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 3: I can sit a certain type of way. 742 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: Doing it too. 743 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 744 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 3: So it clarifies your intention when you do things because 745 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: you want it to have you know, purpose and intention, 746 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: you know. So those are the things. And I'm obsessed 747 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: with being the best version of myself and that's a 748 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 3: daily thing, you know, And some days are better than others, 749 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 3: finding myself in. 750 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: A world where there's so many. 751 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: Seen opinions about yourself, when everybody's telling you who and 752 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 3: what you are, you know, learning how to live, you know, 753 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 3: growing up in it, like and it's so wild. I've 754 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 3: been doing this for twenty five years straight, you know, 755 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: and that's a wild thing to think about. The man, 756 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: more than half of my life has been my identity 757 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: has been through the work that I've been doing and 758 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 3: growing up and with you know, social media what didn't 759 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 3: exist and now it does at a point where I'm 760 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 3: old enough to understand what that can do. So I'm 761 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: obsessed with finding myself now after and not having to 762 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: prove anything to anybody other than myself and my family, 763 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 3: you know, but really myself, and realizing that that is enough, 764 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like that, like giving your 765 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: best is enough, and sometimes we lose track. 766 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 4: Of that, you know, And and yeah, so for anybody 767 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 4: out there, you know you're enough. 768 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 2: Man, absolutely, let's let's toast, just toasted. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, 769 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 2: shake it up, it out, yeah man. 770 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 3: And this is the pure So we have three flavors 771 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: right now, the mango, ginger, the pomegrant. 772 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: But this is the wet appreciation. 773 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 2: Bro, I'm excited to dry it. Oh that's good. That's easy, easy, 774 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: it's easy. 775 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 3: And anybody else had like fresh yeah sea moss in 776 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 3: the past, they might not have. They might not had 777 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 3: a good experience becausey either, they like they kind of 778 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: tried to clean it and process it themselves. Smooth, smooth, 779 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 3: don't taste like the ocean. But it tastes a little 780 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a little heightened. 781 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: Like it's refreshing. It's smooth, and it's easy. That's how 782 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: I feel about it. 783 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is like and it's a great mixture, you know. 784 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if you know you want 785 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 4: to do it. 786 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: We call them moss tails, but like if you want 787 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: to do like mocktails moss tails, you know what I'm saying, 788 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: Or if you want to mix them like with drinks, 789 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: like with with the spirits and stuff like that. It's 790 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: a really good Uh yeah, man, I just this this 791 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 3: this is five years of obsession. 792 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: Uh. 793 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 3: You know obviously when you know, health scares all over 794 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 3: the place, people, you know, not a lot of information 795 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 3: on what's really going on, what can help, what cannot help. 796 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 3: I was, you know, finishing up a movie in Berlin, 797 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: and you know, doing my own stunts, not sleeping a 798 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 3: lot in a feig place. 799 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: You know. 800 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 3: Food was really wasn't really my thing as much, and 801 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: I was looking for something to kind of just help 802 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: me get through my shoot days. And I was just 803 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 3: chug se mars, like I mean, by the jar, just 804 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: because I mean I was up. It's got to be 805 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: doing good. I know it's doing good, you know, just. 806 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 4: By the jar. 807 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 3: And and and then you know, almost the flight home, 808 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: it was like, it's got to be a better way. 809 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 3: So I started making smoothie, started you know, blending them in. 810 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: And my sister was pregnant with my nephew, Lennox at 811 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: the time, so you know, at that point, everybody was 812 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: in their own bubble, you know, and you know, you know, 813 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 3: it wasn't able to kind of visit many people, so 814 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 3: we would just blend up smoothies, drop them off at 815 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 3: the front door. 816 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 4: You know. 817 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 3: That was my little care package that I would do. 818 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: I would do I would do sea moss, and I 819 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: would do like a you know, a homemade little pasta. 820 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 3: And that was my active service for my. 821 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 4: Family, you know. 822 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 3: So so so that that labor of love, that that 823 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 3: that kind of uh it started from a place of 824 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 3: just trying to help my family just like, you know, 825 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: stay healthy during the pandemic, and it slowly evolved in 826 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 3: something that I wanted to get you know, make it 827 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: accessible to everyone. 828 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, for people who don't know the benefits of seamos, 829 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: what are some of the things and the properties. 830 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: It's that cognitive brain, you know, it's that clarity, uh, 831 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 3: your your your immune system. So being able to harvest 832 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: them in a way that that gets those nutrients inside 833 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 3: of this drink in your daily dose of moss is 834 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 3: something that I was really really exciting me about. Just 835 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 3: like making a beverage about. 836 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 2: It is great too. It's just there, you know, it 837 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 2: makes you want to drink more of it. 838 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. 839 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and and yeah it's good man, it's good and 840 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 3: and it's it's uh yeah, I'm proud of it. 841 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, proud of congratulations. Now we know we got to 842 00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: go to yours man we left. 843 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: We love to do a mostel now with it's Junia 844 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: must Yeah. 845 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: But I love it because Aswanda, we got a Swanda 846 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: in ours as well and gin sync, so I mean 847 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 3: you got all the adaptogens in it, so that's great. 848 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's been. 849 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: It's been a labor of love for us too. It's 850 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: like me and my wife always talked about it as 851 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: our COVID baby. It's like, there's what we were working 852 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: on because we were the same. We've been addicted to 853 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: tea our whole lives and we did a hot tea 854 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: as well. But we were like, you know, for a 855 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: lot of people, their hot drink is coffee, and we're like, well, 856 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what if your soda could mean healthy 857 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: for you and good for you? And you know, how 858 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: can we do it where it has you know, zero 859 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: grams of sugar, Like how do you still get it 860 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: to taste great with no sugar? Because me and my 861 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: wife are both off of refined sugars and trying to 862 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: be healthy and. 863 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 2: All the rest of it. 864 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: And then you realized that all the sodas you're drinking 865 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: a full of it, So how do we make it 866 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: easy for people to understand these herbs. 867 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: And these adaptogens? 868 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: And you know, because a lot of people we grew 869 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: up with it. We were lucky in our culture and 870 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: Indian culture. You grow up with a lot of these 871 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: herbs and spices in your daily food exactly. But a 872 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: lot of people have access to that. So it's like, 873 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: how do you make it easy when people may not 874 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: have in their kitchen? So yeah, man, I'll send you 875 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:06,839 Speaker 1: some to try later. 876 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 4: Please do you got that guy in there and everything? 877 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: And I love this, man. 878 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: I was loving what you were saying about the building 879 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: of teams because and something you said was like, how 880 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 1: do you keep everyone on like the same frequency and 881 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 1: like attract those people? And I went I went through 882 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: a big thing for that in a certain part of 883 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: my work around two years ago. A lot of people 884 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: that are in my sphere today, some of them have 885 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: been around since the beginning and some of them came 886 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: on in the last two years. And it has been 887 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: life changing, like absolutely life changing from an energy standpoint, 888 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: from a spirit standpoint, and from a productivity effectiveness standpoint. 889 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: How have you been trained or what do you how 890 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: do you sense beyond like someone being able to do 891 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,399 Speaker 1: the job obviously, How have you been able to learn 892 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 1: how to sense or understand whether someone's on that same 893 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 1: brain wave and as you said, or brain energy as 894 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: you are, and has that same value you said that 895 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: you have. 896 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 3: I think it's a lot of conversations and and and 897 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 3: sometimes trial and error. I think my my intuition and 898 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: my gut is the first you know, litnus tests is 899 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 3: the first kind of line of defense. You know that 900 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 3: I that I have like energies, vibe, you know what 901 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like okay, that that that that you feel 902 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 3: on par how you know, how you answer a question? 903 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 4: What are the things that you're saying? You know? Are 904 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 4: you speaking from ego? Are you speaking about you know what? 905 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 2: What is the what is the thing? 906 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 4: You know? 907 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: You you know, we're used to we meet so many people. 908 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 3: We have to use quick judgments and who gets our time? 909 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 3: You know, who do you open up to? 910 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 4: Who do you not? And I think when it comes. 911 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 3: To building into a team, especially nowadays, you're coming into 912 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 3: something that's that's well oiled. You're coming into a machine already, 913 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 3: So you have to fit not just with me, but 914 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: you have to kind of fit with everybody. You know, 915 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 3: you have to know how to communicate the things you 916 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 3: need to know how to communicate to you have to 917 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 3: The ego is something that can get in a lot 918 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: of people's way when joining a team and joining something 919 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: that's already really established. And I think, I think I'm 920 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 3: coming to a place of learning and listening is really 921 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 3: important and not taking things personally, I think, I think, uh, 922 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 3: and then it's something to the people that's already been 923 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 3: in the team to understand that there's gonna be additions 924 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 3: and there is a process of there's an onboarding, there's 925 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 3: a welcome, there's a thing that you have to to 926 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 3: bring people into the fold in a way to get 927 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 3: the best out of them. So I think there's been 928 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 3: there's been those learning things along the way that's really 929 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 3: that really helped me identify people who that fit and 930 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 3: work well within the circle, you know. And and uh, yeah, 931 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 3: I think that's been my my kind of process thus far. 932 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 3: And then yeah, I always want to create environment where 933 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 3: people want to be. You know, you're not here for 934 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 3: a check. You're here because you believe in what we're 935 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 3: doing and what we want to do. And I'm pretty 936 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 3: transparent about those things, you know, so so I think 937 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 3: I think just being extremely transparent and forward with those 938 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 3: things and and know that there's nothing personal. This doesn't it, 939 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, like I'm the best, I'm the I'm a 940 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: god that's always going to give you a great recommendation, 941 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like I want I want 942 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 3: people to win, you know, at the end of the day, 943 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 3: I want people to win, and seeing somebody in their strengths, 944 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, and being like, Okay, I can use that that, this, this, 945 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 3: this would be helpful in this way, and if that 946 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 3: works out, it works out, and if not, then man, man, 947 00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 3: I want to see you do well. 948 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I love that. Yeah. 949 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: We I remember years ago I was listening to Eric Schmidt, 950 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: who is the Sea of Google for a bit and 951 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: he was talking about how they were looking for smart 952 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: creatives and I love that that. They had two words 953 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: that kind of summed up what they looked for. They 954 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: look for people who are smart creatives, and for me, 955 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: it became humble champions. 956 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 2: I was like, I want humble winners. I want I 957 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: want the people who. 958 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: Can who want to win and have that ambition, but 959 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: are able to put their ego aside, because then we're 960 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: going to speed up getting there because the thing that 961 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: slows you down from winning is ego, Like the thing 962 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: that stops you from passing the ball is ego, or 963 00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, bowing out and saying it's your turn is 964 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: ego and so. But but you still have to have 965 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: that champion mindship because it isn't just about oh yeah, no, no, no, 966 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: you do it your thing like and that was a 967 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: big thing. 968 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 2: And then the other thing that worked for me was 969 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I need to work. 970 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: With people that I could go to breakfast, lunch or 971 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,799 Speaker 1: dinner with If it didn't work together, Yes, man, who 972 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: I actually want to go to breakfast, lunch and dinner 973 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: with this person because I probably will be when I'm 974 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: traveling or on the road. That means I like spending 975 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: time with them, which means I'm haby to coach them 976 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: and I'm happy to learn from them exactly whereas if 977 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to. And initially I was like that 978 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: I used to just hire people who are great at 979 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 1: what they did. We didn't really have chemistry, like, we didn't. 980 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,240 Speaker 1: We didn't we couldn't hang out. And that wasn't because 981 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: they were wrong. It was also because I wasn't aware gotcha. 982 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: And then of course, yeah, the mission, the purpose is 983 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, that's core and central and. 984 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 3: Because even for you, I mean you spend time from 985 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,439 Speaker 3: your family. You know, your team becomes your extended family. 986 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 3: They absolutely they are your family, eating breakfast, lunch, and dinner. 987 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: You know, like there's there's a part of you that 988 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 3: you know, it has to feel like I'm getting a 989 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 3: little bit of my family here. 990 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 4: And if it's not that, you know, it's really hard 991 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 4: for me. You know. 992 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 3: And obviously, like you know, you have a bigger company 993 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 3: and there's employees and you're not going to be as 994 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 3: personal with everybody within the company. You know, you don't 995 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: have a brefluence to dinner with everybody. But but there's 996 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 3: a there's a there's a feeling of you know, I 997 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 3: don't mind on a Sunday everybody at my house watching 998 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 3: the game, spending time because that's when not the nine 999 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 3: to five time to be creative or the nine to 1000 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 3: five time to do the job, that's the that's the 1001 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 3: extra mile. That's the Oh I had this idea and 1002 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 3: I was just thinking, oh, oh, we're looking at something 1003 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 3: together and this would be great. The best ideas sometimes 1004 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 3: come from those just hangout moments and those moments where 1005 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 3: you're just spending time with with with people that you 1006 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 3: work with. 1007 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that, Yeah, you're right, that's that's 1008 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,240 Speaker 4: really important. 1009 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. 1010 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,240 Speaker 1: Before the obsession point that came up, which which was fascinating, 1011 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm glad I asked you that and you went you 1012 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: went into it. You're talking about like, you know, you 1013 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: live in an industry, and you talked about social media 1014 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: where people having a pin interview people even an opinion. 1015 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 1: It's that people have a lens because they've seen you 1016 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: in a particular light. And I was wondering, like, what 1017 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: do you think something that people get right about you? 1018 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: And what's something that people someone's get wrong about you? Like, 1019 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: what do you feel like when it comes to that, Like, 1020 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: I'll tell you mine, Like I feel like for me, 1021 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people think that I get like often 1022 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: because of what I teach and what I'm sharing and 1023 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: what I'm guiding. It's like, oh, well, Jay must get 1024 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: everything perfect all the time, and like you know, it's 1025 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: like super deep and like always just saying profound things. 1026 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: And that's not true obviously, because as much as that 1027 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: is who I am and that is my heart I'm 1028 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: not always like that, Like I have, I have bad days, 1029 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,439 Speaker 1: I have bad moods, I have off days. 1030 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 2: I have days when I'm not feeling that way right. 1031 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: And so that's something that people get wrong about me 1032 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: sometimes in that perception because but I'm dedicated to this work, 1033 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with it. I'm obsessed with being better. But 1034 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't remove me from having flaws and weaknesses. 1035 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,279 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, you should do. 1036 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 4: Alo you should do. I'll take real of those moments. Yes, 1037 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: your team catch you in these little moments, and you 1038 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,879 Speaker 4: should pull one out. That'll be fun. That'll be fun. 1039 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 4: I like that. I like that, that'd be a good one. 1040 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 3: I think for me, it is like I think I've 1041 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: intentionally stayed out the way so much where I'm not 1042 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 3: giving anybody any anything to go off of other than 1043 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 3: what I want you to know. You know, I think 1044 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 3: I think that's been it for a long time. I've 1045 00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 3: always had the approach of like not speaking on things 1046 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 3: and not giving them life. You know, there's there's there's 1047 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 3: going to be perspectives and there's things about you that 1048 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 3: just aren't true. Uh do you do you care to 1049 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 3: correct somebody or not? You know, because most of the time, 1050 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 3: people's minds are made up. No matter what you say, 1051 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,359 Speaker 3: it is what it's going to be. You know, stay 1052 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 3: out the comment section, you know what I mean. You 1053 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 3: get some great entertainment in there, but then you can 1054 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 3: get a lot of stuff that is just people who 1055 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 3: want to project the thing that's going to get the 1056 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 3: most attention. And the issue that I have with a 1057 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 3: lot of that is they can be completely false. And 1058 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 3: we have an industry of we were talking earlier, the 1059 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 3: lack of journalism, the skill of that that will run 1060 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 3: with those things knowing that there is. 1061 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 4: No basis to them. 1062 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 3: But now that's a narrative that's attached to you that 1063 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 3: you have to be strong enough and strong minded enough 1064 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: to ignore knowing it's not true, or this human nature 1065 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 3: feeling of wanting to know that's not true. 1066 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 4: I want people to know this about. 1067 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 2: Me, and I've always walked on that line of. 1068 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 3: You know, not caring, trying not to care, and knowing 1069 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 3: that I'm enough and knowing my truth and the people 1070 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 3: who know me know me. You know I am about 1071 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 3: my community and my people, you know, wholeheartedly, and a 1072 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 3: lot of the choices that I make and the things 1073 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 3: that I want to do and be a part of 1074 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 3: is in service of that bigger picture, you know, of 1075 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,879 Speaker 3: helping that you know, my community in a big way. 1076 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 3: So I think the biggest thing sometimes if they ever 1077 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 3: feel like that they're not my top priority, is maybe 1078 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 3: one of the biggest misconceptions, you know, the love I 1079 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: have for my community. Regardless of people's approach. I think 1080 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: everybody has a different strategy and approach to how they 1081 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 3: affect and make change everybody. It doesn't all look the same. 1082 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 3: And because it may not be typical or the average voice, 1083 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 3: because the package is different and the craft and my 1084 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 3: field is different. So I have a different set of 1085 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 3: boundaries that exist in my lane that I maneuver without 1086 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 3: in and out of. Like I love playing chess, I 1087 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 3: love I love I love strategy, I love I love 1088 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 3: reverse engineering and building things. So I think I think 1089 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:09,680 Speaker 3: that's one of the biggest things. And you know, sometimes 1090 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 3: ignorance and a laugh or a joke or a like 1091 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 3: or a thing we've we've encouraged the behavior of negativity 1092 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 3: and things and. 1093 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 4: Loudest is the thing, and that's just not what That's 1094 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 4: not what I'm into. I'm into the love of things. 1095 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 3: I'm into the humanity and bringing people together the best 1096 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 3: way and been awesome human No. 1097 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 1098 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean I also think we've put a false pressure 1099 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: on the definition of authenticity, meaning you share everything with everyone, 1100 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure I vibe with that definition because 1101 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,360 Speaker 1: I think authenticity, by nature is you sharing what you 1102 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with each person. That's what it means to 1103 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: be authentic. And you could argue that authentic just means 1104 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: being however you want to be in any given situation. 1105 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: And so I think there has become a false pressure of. 1106 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh, you gotta show you're authentic by showing every part 1107 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,720 Speaker 1: of yourself. And I don't know if that that triggers 1108 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: anything for you. Is like, what's the definition of authenticity 1109 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 1: for you? 1110 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 2: Or for me? That's what it is, but what is 1111 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 2: it for you? 1112 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 3: I think it's But then in hindsight, there's a there's 1113 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: a piece of it that not even just to go back, 1114 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 3: but there's there's also like maybe that's my insecurity framing. 1115 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 3: What the loudness of the things that I'm most sensitive 1116 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 3: of is this noise somehow? 1117 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it triggers us for a reason. You know what 1118 00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Some stuff that you just go, oh, yeah. 1119 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever. 1120 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 2: But it's like that's just like man, like why why 1121 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 2: does that bother me so much? 1122 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 3: Like there's something that there's something about that that because 1123 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 3: I know what that does in the bigger like, I'm 1124 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 3: always thinking bigger picture. It's very rarely that I really 1125 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: focus on the thing. It's always about what's the cause 1126 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 3: of that in a bigger conversation. 1127 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: You know. 1128 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 4: The authenticity to me. 1129 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 3: Is being able to sleep in night, being able to 1130 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 3: go talk to my mom, and knowing that the people 1131 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,280 Speaker 3: that know me every fiber of my being, my intention, 1132 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 3: knows my heart through and through that they see the 1133 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 3: same person. They're able to connect with the same energy 1134 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 3: and the same vibe in the same spirit. My energy 1135 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 3: has never changed, you know. I think being authentic to 1136 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 3: that frequency is super important to me. No matter where 1137 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 3: I go, no matter how I evolve and have to 1138 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,800 Speaker 3: mature and grow up, I want my energy to always 1139 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 3: feel the same. That's the way when you meet certain 1140 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 3: people and it's been years that go by and you 1141 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 3: pick right back up where you left off, it feels 1142 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 3: like no time is lost, that energy is never It's 1143 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,160 Speaker 3: always the same. And I love when people I haven't 1144 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 3: seen in a long time or come and like man, 1145 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 3: oh it feels you know, it's the same, and that 1146 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 3: that just lets me know that I'm not losing myself 1147 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 3: and I'm not losing track of you know, who I 1148 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 3: am and where I come from. And I am always 1149 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 3: going to be an agent of change, Trojan horse or not, 1150 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And and yeah, you're just 1151 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 3: and continue to lead by example, you know, I know, 1152 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,800 Speaker 3: I know the path that I'm on isn't easy. You know, 1153 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 3: sometimes you may look easy, you know, uh for the 1154 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 3: successes or whatever, but but it's behind closed doors I'm 1155 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 3: doing I'm doing the work. So the future generations have 1156 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 3: it a little bit easier or have a little bit 1157 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 3: more tools to use, and they can ask for certain 1158 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 3: things that won't be like what it'd be almost standard 1159 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 3: for them, you know. 1160 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 4: And you know, from my vantage point. 1161 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 3: I'm able to see a lot of the road blocks 1162 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 3: that exist within systems, you know, and paperwork and precedents. 1163 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 3: I've been chipping away at those where I can in places, 1164 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 3: and there's so many look, I say aye a lot 1165 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 3: in this interview. There's so many people out there that 1166 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:16,280 Speaker 3: are doing that type of work. You know that exist 1167 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: men and women in these places that are breaking down 1168 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 3: doorriers that are chipping away, say shawshank redemption. You know, 1169 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 3: rock at a time, gravel at a time. You know, 1170 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 3: eventually that hole is going to be open, you know 1171 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Eventually it's going to be open, but 1172 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 3: just chipping away. And unfortunately everybody can't be the loudest 1173 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 3: one in the room. You know, gotta be sometimes you 1174 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 3: gotta be the choir guy in the room. You gotta 1175 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 3: listen and look and pay attention and move how you 1176 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 3: need to move. There's chest pieces that they have different 1177 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 3: rules and different movements for a reason, you know. And 1178 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 3: they're on the board in different places for a reason. 1179 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 3: And and uh, I know my place on the board. 1180 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: I think that's what it comes down to, right. It's like, 1181 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate you bringing out that point around how things 1182 00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 1: that trigger us give us somewhere to focus on within ourselves. 1183 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that too, Like I'm like, there's 1184 00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: certain things that just don't FaZe me at all, And 1185 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,960 Speaker 1: I can look like the most detached guy and like 1186 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm bulletproof, and there's something that gets 1187 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: through that verse. It's just like and you know, it's 1188 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: because there's a part of it that feels true, and 1189 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: there's a part of you that you've allowed for it 1190 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: to feel true, because it could be that you are 1191 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: there's a part of your self esteem you haven't worked on, 1192 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: there's something you took from your childhood and made true 1193 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,560 Speaker 1: for you, and now when someone else says it and 1194 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: you didn't even know where it came from. But you know, 1195 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: I was talking to a friend the other day and 1196 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: we were talking about how one of his mentors was 1197 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: letting him down, and we discovered in that I've been 1198 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: friends with this guy for like twenty years. We're best mates, 1199 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: and it was like twenty years we figured out that 1200 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: he'd made his mentor his father figure and he didn't 1201 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: really put two and two together until just now, and 1202 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,720 Speaker 1: neither did I for him. And he was like, wait 1203 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: a minute, no, wonder, I'm feeling so much pain with 1204 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: this mentor of mine because I'd made him a father 1205 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: figure and gone through that feeling of he's superman and 1206 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: now realizing he's not, even though I'm a four year old. 1207 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 2: Man for him. 1208 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: And so it's just so interesting how the stuff that 1209 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: gets under our skin, it can just be hidden there, 1210 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: and he gets stale and stuck, and then you don't 1211 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,200 Speaker 1: look at it because you're like, oh no, no, it's nothing, 1212 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: it's nothing. But at one point, when you feel safe enough, 1213 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: you have to kind of like look under the hood 1214 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: and go, you know. 1215 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 2: Why is that there? 1216 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: But coming on to the point, you were just making 1217 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: around paving the way for others and setting an example 1218 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 1: and the responsibility that comes with and like you said, 1219 00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: there's so many people doing that. I feel like, how 1220 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: would you define your current purpose? Like how do you 1221 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: define with everything you're doing? Because you talked about purpose 1222 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: being a big thing for you, and you talk about 1223 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: the mission of your company, like what is the purpose 1224 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 1: of that work? Which doors are you trying to open? 1225 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: Which paperwork you're trying to shift, what systems are you 1226 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: trying to affect? 1227 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 4: I think I have my purpose right now. 1228 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean. 1229 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think I have a chapter twenty 1230 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 3: five years acting, you know, producing, you know, being in 1231 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 3: front of the camera, being talent, learning so much about 1232 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 3: the world, about myself, about the industry. You know, I 1233 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 3: think being a representative from my community in a way 1234 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 3: that places that a black actor hasn't gone You know, 1235 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 3: obviously you have the grades, you have the Wills and 1236 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,840 Speaker 3: the Denzels. You know what I'm saying that I look 1237 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 3: up to in a big way that you know that 1238 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 3: through their talent, the business and the craft has extended 1239 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 3: to a new height. So they've opened up doors for 1240 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 3: me that I didn't even know what was possible. That 1241 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 3: now I was like, oh wow, now we have this 1242 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 3: and that Now I could do that and do that. 1243 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 3: So they've kicked the door down in a way that's like, 1244 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 3: you know, internally grateful. So like leading by example is 1245 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 3: a big purpose, you know for people to be able 1246 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 3: to see it, because it was big for me to 1247 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 3: see it and think that I can do it too. 1248 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 4: So that is that part of it. 1249 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: There's the the business side of things that I've got 1250 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 3: an opportunity to learn from investing your money, you know, 1251 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 3: what do you do with the savings and the things 1252 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 3: that you do? Have a big sports guy, you know, 1253 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 3: I've always wanted to, you know, own a team. I'm competitive. 1254 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 3: I wanted to be involved in that and that in 1255 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 3: that environment that energy you know of sports and found 1256 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,240 Speaker 3: a football team you know in Bournemouth and great. 1257 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 4: Football. 1258 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 3: I've literally had to like you know, I cannot say 1259 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:43,120 Speaker 3: soccer anymore. 1260 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1261 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 3: Uh and and great great partner and you know Bill 1262 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 3: Foley and he owns the Las Vegas Golden Knights, and 1263 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 3: and really trying to turn that program around and and 1264 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 3: just just amplify it in a big way. But learning, 1265 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 3: you know, how to invest than those things. You know, Oh, 1266 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 3: there's going to be a new stadium. Oh, there's opportunity 1267 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 3: to invest in real estate. Oh wow, Now invest in 1268 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 3: real estate and something that's going to be around for 1269 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 3: you know, however many year lease and this and that. Okay, cool, 1270 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 3: I could take that and oh wow, investing in you know, 1271 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 3: started a JV for you know, underneath an umbrella company 1272 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 3: to have your own product. And then from there you 1273 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 3: can create another JV. Oh you can invest capital. Oh 1274 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,280 Speaker 3: you can have a venture for oh oh snap, okay, wow. 1275 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 3: This is a whole other game. There's a whole other 1276 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:42,560 Speaker 3: nuance of acquisitions and investment in capital that I never 1277 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 3: even knew exists. 1278 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 4: I'm used to you know, W. 1279 01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 3: Nine forums and taxes, you know, like you know what 1280 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying on that. You know, on the on the 1281 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 3: talent side, there's a whole other game to be played 1282 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 3: and and taking that information, just the information that that 1283 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 3: exists and what that would do to you know, to 1284 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 3: to the next generation, you know, knowing what's available to him, 1285 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: knowing that there's other ways to maximize my my brand, 1286 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 3: you know, your brand, creating things, ownership of things as 1287 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 3: streamers and studios, and there's there's so many other platforms 1288 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 3: that are you know, people are content crazy, you know, podcasts. 1289 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 3: You know, it's become a business as well, you know 1290 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 3: new you know, a new venture that that people are 1291 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 3: be able to monetize their own, their own following their own, 1292 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 3: their own. 1293 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 4: Likeness in a real way. Retirement, What does that look 1294 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 4: like really? 1295 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 3: You know, do you know really a will well, leaving 1296 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 3: a will behind like what like I mean, no, I 1297 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 3: mean there's things that you just don't get taught. You know, 1298 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 3: there's nobody know so so I've stumbled on it upon 1299 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 3: it these things within my success and my intuition and 1300 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 3: my partnerships and my relationships that but again it goes 1301 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 3: back to like the y me. This one guy you 1302 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,440 Speaker 3: know that has got has gotten access to all these things, 1303 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 3: and my. 1304 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 4: Man over here, my guy over there, No that you 1305 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 4: guys would never know about. 1306 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 3: None of these things because of how whatever your life 1307 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: path has taken you is not been in these areas 1308 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 3: or nobody's at the opportunity to say those things to you. 1309 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 3: So I put that on me as a purpose to 1310 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 3: be able to give that information, you know, in a 1311 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 3: real way and identify the you know, people are hungry enough, 1312 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 3: and you know that want it. You know that want it, 1313 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 3: they gotta want it, and they gotta be a Then 1314 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,240 Speaker 3: come on, let's go figure it out, all right. Let 1315 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 3: me let me, let me figure out how to help 1316 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 3: set you up with the right people so you got 1317 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 3: the right conversations, you know, and then you also got 1318 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 3: to be careful who you help too. You know, you 1319 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 3: can't you know, you want to help everybody, but you 1320 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 3: can't help everybody. But you can't leave a blueprint for everyone. 1321 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 4: You know. 1322 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes that's all a person should need sometimes is seeing 1323 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 3: it and being and the thought. Then you got to 1324 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 3: leave it on the person to do their their part 1325 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 3: of the work, to lift that part of the weight, 1326 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 3: to put on that burden, to go do that for themselves. 1327 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 3: Their family, they're there, they're they're people within their their circle. 1328 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure, I like that, man. 1329 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: That's I mean it's super powerful because I think, yeah, 1330 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 1: so many people don't have access, don't understand, don't have 1331 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 1: the language, don't have the vocabulary. It's a it's a 1332 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: huge purpose. What do you do when it all just 1333 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 1: gets too much, when you're like it's a lot days, 1334 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 1: you're busy, you go this gun, Like, what do you 1335 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: do when it gets too much? 1336 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 3: With the first try to go to Japan? I try 1337 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 3: to get on the first thing smoking to Japan. 1338 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 4: I'm out of here. 1339 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 1340 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,720 Speaker 3: It's one of the few places that I've been that 1341 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 3: I feel like I just exist, you know what, Japan. 1342 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 3: Growing up, I've been obsessed with anime. I'm a big 1343 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 3: anime guy, you know. So since I was like, you know, eleven, 1344 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 3: twelve years old, it's been anime, you know, And that's 1345 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 3: been my cartoons, comic books, anima me that's just like 1346 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 3: my you know, escapism. 1347 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm in that. 1348 01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 3: And you know, growing up watching those shows, you they 1349 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,560 Speaker 3: there's so much of their identity and their culture and 1350 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 3: the dialogue and messaging and all that stuff. 1351 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 4: So I just had this idea of this place in 1352 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 4: my head that was full of respect, and. 1353 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 3: It was hospitable and hard work and tradition and you know, 1354 01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 3: I mean thousands of years of you know, a couple 1355 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,240 Speaker 3: thousand years of tradition, you know what I'm saying. 1356 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 4: That you know that that exists. 1357 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 3: And and I was like, man, I wonder what at 1358 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 3: this place is going to live up to the expectation. 1359 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I was the food and the culture, all that good stuff, 1360 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,560 Speaker 3: and uh yeah, when I went, it was it was 1361 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,680 Speaker 3: everything that I thought it would be more, you know, 1362 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 3: And obviously I went went the right type of way. 1363 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 3: I you know, I created an anime as well. You know, 1364 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to, like, you know, because they're they're they're 1365 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,040 Speaker 3: so loving and and and and welcoming in a really 1366 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,200 Speaker 3: big way. And yeah, for me going there, there's not 1367 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 3: a you know, a million phones being out everybody. They're 1368 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 3: very respectful of your space there, and people are going 1369 01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 3: to obviously come up and say what's up. You know 1370 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 3: that that's going to happen, but it's it's in a 1371 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,520 Speaker 3: way where you don't feel like I have to hide 1372 01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 3: as much. I feel like I walk down the streets 1373 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 3: there a little bit more loosely. And that's something that 1374 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 3: you know, I don't really have as much here in 1375 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,919 Speaker 3: La or you know, New York. You get a little 1376 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,200 Speaker 3: bit more of it, you know what I'm saying, you 1377 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 3: can kind of like you know, because people sometimes whatever 1378 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 3: keep pushing it, but it's it's a it's a different thing. 1379 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 3: But something about Japan that was awesome. And you know, 1380 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 3: in another place that I can't wait to really go 1381 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 3: is Ghana as well. Dad's been spend a lot of 1382 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 3: time there. Wow, I haven't like my skip for whatever reason. 1383 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,760 Speaker 3: Every time I'm trying to go, something that I cannot 1384 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 3: change pops up. But that's a place that people tell 1385 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 3: me stories of the similar feeling of going there and 1386 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 3: the love and infinity of being in that place, and 1387 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 3: I really want to go there as well. So so 1388 01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 3: that that's so if I can't get to Japan, I'm 1389 01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,200 Speaker 3: usually at the house. I'm either cooking or playing like 1390 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 3: Call of Duty. 1391 01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:57,360 Speaker 2: I'm playing. 1392 01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 4: I'm playing Call of Duty online. You know what I'm saying. 1393 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:01,320 Speaker 4: My boys back back. 1394 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 3: You know, from from all over and uh and and 1395 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 3: you know it's a place where you can get you know, 1396 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 3: it's a fair game. You know, he's even playing field, 1397 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. You know, some mindless you 1398 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 3: know kind of you know, you know, camaraderie with your 1399 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 3: boys and stuff. 1400 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's I love cooking. 1401 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 3: Food is a love language for me, you know, so, 1402 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 3: so being able to you know, find a recipe or 1403 01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 3: try something new and combined flavors is probably you never 1404 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,840 Speaker 3: thought would go together. And just creating those those moments 1405 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 3: is another form. 1406 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 4: Of art too. 1407 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 3: And and and I like people enjoying people eating my food, 1408 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 3: you know, like like serving people and being like, you know, I. 1409 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 2: Normally don't like land, but have you had it like this? 1410 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: And then uh, and it's having people just you know, 1411 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 3: react to that is a as a It's something that 1412 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:45,400 Speaker 3: I enjoyed. 1413 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,400 Speaker 2: Doing now with boom. If we're gonna have to get 1414 01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 2: you into as. 1415 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I gotta get Okay, that's that's that's. 1416 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that's my that's my guilty pleasure. 1417 01:07:54,600 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 4: Some easy wins at first, So we'll start all Yeah, 1418 01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 4: it'd be good. 1419 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 2: Dude, You've been amazing to that. 1420 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I've got a few more questions to ask you before 1421 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I let you go that. This question is like, what 1422 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 1: has been a lesson you wish you learned earlier in life? Like, 1423 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 1: is there a lesson that you learned recently? You're like, 1424 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I wish I learned this one earlier. 1425 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 4: I think. 1426 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:25,800 Speaker 3: Being unapologetically honest with what you want and that and 1427 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 3: that goes across the board. I was trying to think 1428 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,600 Speaker 3: of something that kind of across the board, if you. 1429 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 4: Can communicate your truth. 1430 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 3: And and not worry so much about how somebody is 1431 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 3: going to react to what you say, because a lot 1432 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 3: of times the fear of how somebody is going to 1433 01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 3: react to what you're you really want to say is 1434 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 3: what stops you from saying it sometimes and you find 1435 01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 3: another way, or you put it off, or you don't 1436 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,320 Speaker 3: say it, and maybe the situation doesn't change, and you 1437 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,719 Speaker 3: get frustrated and upset with why this thing doesn't change 1438 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,599 Speaker 3: because you kind of maybe. 1439 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: Might not have said it the way you wanted to say, 1440 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: you know. 1441 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 3: And I think there's a, you know, a way to 1442 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 3: be unapologetically and still be respectful and speak your truth. 1443 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,280 Speaker 3: If I think I would have done that earlier, I 1444 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 3: would have been further along in relationships that I have 1445 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 3: with people I care about and and not intimately I mean, 1446 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 3: I mean I mean across the board, work relationships, business, family, 1447 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,720 Speaker 3: female friends, you know, whatever it may have been. I 1448 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 3: think being honest with with with where you stand and 1449 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,559 Speaker 3: how you feel, it's really given another person an option 1450 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,320 Speaker 3: and opportunity to be as honest with you, and whatever 1451 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 3: your fear of that is, of that outcome is never 1452 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,280 Speaker 3: really as big as what you make it up to be, 1453 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 3: you know, it's really not that. So I would say, 1454 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 3: I would say maybe just being being being honest and 1455 01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 3: living with the results. You know, and tomorrow is not 1456 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 3: promised to anyone. But time will move on, you know, 1457 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 3: you will move past it, you know, and if it'smorro 1458 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,320 Speaker 3: will never come. At least you can know that you 1459 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 3: said what you needed to say. Yeah, you know, so 1460 01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,639 Speaker 3: I think that's one thing that I feel like earlier 1461 01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 3: on if I could, if if I had. 1462 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: That, it might have been better. 1463 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a thoughtful longs I was thinking when you 1464 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: were saying that, it's that we we're so scared of 1465 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: our honesty hurting someone not realizing that us holding back 1466 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,759 Speaker 1: our honesty is and the even more is a longer 1467 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:29,600 Speaker 1: term it is. 1468 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 2: It's hard. 1469 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: It's a hard one because when you have to be honest, 1470 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,000 Speaker 1: it makes you look worse, it makes you feel bad, 1471 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 1: It makes that best and feel bad. 1472 01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 2: It gets it gets messy on so many level. 1473 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 4: What if that person needed to hear it. 1474 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 3: You know, what if that person never heard that that 1475 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 3: note or that that thought or perspective, and then they 1476 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 3: go on in life, you know, continuing to you know, 1477 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:55,080 Speaker 3: move and act and speaking away without that you're doing 1478 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,080 Speaker 3: almost a disservice. 1479 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 4: You know. It goes back to like knowing, if you 1480 01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 4: know better, you got to do better. 1481 01:10:59,240 --> 01:10:59,360 Speaker 2: Right. 1482 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 3: So so I think that kind of maybe speaks to 1483 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: a bigger thing with me of like wanting to just 1484 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,760 Speaker 3: be better and wanting people around me to be better 1485 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 3: and grow, you know, because I guess one of going 1486 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 3: back to, you know, just the other misconceptions, like you know, 1487 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 3: a thing of. 1488 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,200 Speaker 4: People look at me and think I got everything, I 1489 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 4: got it all. You know, it's not true. 1490 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,799 Speaker 3: Man, Like I'm flawed, you know, and and I'm actively 1491 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,679 Speaker 3: trying to get better daily, you know, and I fail 1492 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 3: all the time, and I come up short all the 1493 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 3: time on even how to communicate, no matter how much 1494 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 3: coaching I go through, and you know, and practice and 1495 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,920 Speaker 3: and and and running conversations through my head you know, 1496 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 3: in the shower and like all right, I'm gonna say this. 1497 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that I want to hit that point 1498 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 3: and okay, you know, what I'm saying, and you know, 1499 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,639 Speaker 3: I'm just in the I'm trying to do my best, 1500 01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 3: you know. 1501 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 4: And I think the weight to. 1502 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 3: Try to live up to everybody's perfect expectation of me 1503 01:11:56,560 --> 01:12:00,560 Speaker 3: has been really, really heavy for a long time, you know, 1504 01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,160 Speaker 3: And I think the last couple of years, I've been 1505 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 3: trying to maneuver out of that. 1506 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: Mike, we end every episode of On Purpose with a 1507 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,680 Speaker 1: final five. These five questions have to be answered in 1508 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 1: one word to one sentence maximum. There can be one sentence. 1509 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 1: I will ask you to explore it further, all right, 1510 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: So Mike, these are your final five. The first question 1511 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: is the first question your ones have two parts. I've 1512 01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: never done this before, but we do. I'm about to 1513 01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: do it because I think there's some things I really 1514 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 1: want to know. So the first question is what is 1515 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: the best advice you've ever heard and the worst advice 1516 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: you've ever heard? 1517 01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 3: Best advice is, if you're unsure about something, take a moment. 1518 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 3: You know, if you're unsure, uh, don't don't don't answer 1519 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,599 Speaker 3: right away. Take a moment, think about it. It's okay, 1520 01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,439 Speaker 3: you know. Don't answer just because you feel like you 1521 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,960 Speaker 3: got to be out and be quick. And be fast 1522 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,760 Speaker 3: about it, you know, because you end up stumbling over 1523 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 3: your words and and or not something of words, saying 1524 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 3: something that you don't really really mean. So I would 1525 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 3: say that's probably some of the best advice I got. 1526 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 4: Worst advice. Buy it now, you'll get it back. 1527 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,760 Speaker 2: Just what I just spend it. Now, you'll get you'll 1528 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 2: make it. 1529 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,559 Speaker 4: Back, you know, sink. I think that's right. I think 1530 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:19,160 Speaker 4: that's right. Yeah. I think at the time it was close. 1531 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 4: At the time, it was closed. It was closed. 1532 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 3: It was it was it was and it wasn't even 1533 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 3: really a big close. Guys at the time, I was 1534 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:29,240 Speaker 3: like whatever, but it was like, yeah, you're. 1535 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,640 Speaker 4: Right, you I'll make it back, no worry about it. 1536 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, cool, of course I will, you know, like yeah, 1537 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 3: and then you know, we're on seven eleven diet for 1538 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 3: the next you know, two months. 1539 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a choice. Pick one of these. 1540 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 4: One. Yeah, yeah, oh man, I want to know what 1541 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 4: the other one is. 1542 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,960 Speaker 2: This is a old. 1543 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 3: Dogs my dad's dog text from the Marines. That linen 1544 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:18,640 Speaker 3: jacket says, all my children. I'm saying maybe seven sixteen seventeen, 1545 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 3: maybe like Disney like Super Soap Weakened or something like that. 1546 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 3: I think it was like one of those things where 1547 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,560 Speaker 3: like the soap roperas had this this weekend. 1548 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,800 Speaker 4: And uh, I think it was in California. 1549 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Disney. 1550 01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,320 Speaker 4: And I want to say this is from that. 1551 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,439 Speaker 2: I want to say that my advice would you what 1552 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 2: advice would you give to him? 1553 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 3: Uh, savor those moments of being a teenager? I think, 1554 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 3: you know, looking back at the teenage years, you know, we. 1555 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 4: Have a worry, know what problems we have? You know 1556 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,759 Speaker 4: it was high school? Yeah, about homework. 1557 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like it you know I was, 1558 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,120 Speaker 3: I was working at that time, you know what I'm saying. So, 1559 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,320 Speaker 3: but but I would just say, like, enjoy those years, man, 1560 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 3: you know, of just of just uh of the purity 1561 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:12,439 Speaker 3: of it. 1562 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 4: You know. I look back and I was like, man, 1563 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 4: this is like it is a pretty pure. 1564 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 2: What would he say back to you now? Looking at 1565 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,640 Speaker 2: you now? Maybe I know you could do it? 1566 01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 3: You know, I think I would tell myself that you 1567 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 3: could do it too. I think I think you know, 1568 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 3: nobody thought. I mean I didn't at that time. You know, 1569 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,840 Speaker 3: I think you know, what what what could have been? 1570 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 3: What what is he had a You know, I thought 1571 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,439 Speaker 3: I had an idea of what could be, you know, 1572 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,560 Speaker 3: I had I always have to have the optimism of 1573 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 3: what could be. 1574 01:15:48,160 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 4: You know. 1575 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 2: It was just like, is follow that more? Maybe? I 1576 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:58,880 Speaker 2: love that? Man? This is the other one we got funny, 1577 01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 2: we just picked. These are the two that the teams. 1578 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is my birthday or my 1579 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 3: sister's birthday, but this is my grandmother's kitchen, and uh, 1580 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 3: my sister was right there and I think she was 1581 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 3: either helped me cut a cake or something. But yeah, 1582 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,599 Speaker 3: that's my that's my my that was my my guardian, 1583 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,160 Speaker 3: that was my my my bodyguard, was my sister. 1584 01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 4: It's a good one. 1585 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: I love that, all right, question number I don't know 1586 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: which question we want to that's the best, That's that's 1587 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 1: what it's the best. Uh, What's what's the best part 1588 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,800 Speaker 1: of being Michael B. Jordan and the West Bust part 1589 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: being Michael B. 1590 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 4: Jordan's being Uncle Mike. 1591 01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,840 Speaker 3: Man, it's a feeling of like with my nephew and 1592 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,600 Speaker 3: my niece that I've never I've never loved something so 1593 01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 3: much and like wow, like whoa like? I think I 1594 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 3: think being Uncle Mike right now is the best part 1595 01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:57,480 Speaker 3: of that. Right now the worst part. I love multitasking. 1596 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 3: I love I love I love the juggling, the balancing 1597 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,560 Speaker 3: act of the things that I do. 1598 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,200 Speaker 4: I love that. And the worst part is the the 1599 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,640 Speaker 4: loneliness that comes with that. You know. 1600 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,080 Speaker 2: I think there's a there's a there's a you know, 1601 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 2: a loneliness that I have, you know. 1602 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,600 Speaker 3: The responsibility that you have and is isolating, and the 1603 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 3: weight is isolating. So I think I think the worst 1604 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,360 Speaker 3: part of that is is the the feeling like nobody 1605 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 3: really understands and sometimes falling into the spaces of like 1606 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 3: just you know, being alone, feeling alone. 1607 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing everything today, I mean, okay, question number four, 1608 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 1: we nearly that four and five. Question number four, you 1609 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 1: talked about knowing your team's love language. This question is 1610 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 1: my team's love language. How does being the sexiest man 1611 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: of life find love. 1612 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 2: From the galves of my team? Dedicated to dedicated to you? 1613 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 4: So I revert back to the last question. 1614 01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 2: It's very lonely. 1615 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 3: No, it's a I go back and forth between wanting 1616 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:12,479 Speaker 3: partnership and then not knowing what's the best partner for me, 1617 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 3: Like bringing them into my world. What I got going 1618 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 3: on isn't easy, and it's it's not just I love you, 1619 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 3: you love me. That should be enough, right, It's not. 1620 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,560 Speaker 3: It's not quite that simple, you know. I think, I 1621 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 3: think finding the right person to understand a all of me, 1622 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 3: but then all that comes with me as well, and understanding, 1623 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 3: you know, that balance between wanting to be available and 1624 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,280 Speaker 3: there for that person while I'm juggling everything else and 1625 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 3: feeling okay to put the other part of my businesses down, 1626 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:56,040 Speaker 3: and you know, this sacrifice and compromise that comes with 1627 01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 3: a partnership and a relationship and what is understanding how 1628 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 3: how to make that all work is sometimes gives me 1629 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 3: anxiety and pause, you. 1630 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 4: Know, and and and. 1631 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,600 Speaker 3: Then also as a part of me that has not 1632 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 3: really lived life yet, I haven't really traveled as much 1633 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 3: for fun or just like Japan has been a few 1634 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 3: times that I went where I didn't have a schedule, 1635 01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,160 Speaker 3: where I didn't have to be somewhere for press, I 1636 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,040 Speaker 3: didn't have to be these most I had to put 1637 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,720 Speaker 3: the other hats on. 1638 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 1: You know. 1639 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,800 Speaker 3: There's so many different places and people I've never had 1640 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 3: an opportunity to happenly meet that I might connect and 1641 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,800 Speaker 3: vibe with, that might be a person that my soul 1642 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,960 Speaker 3: connects to you know, and and I think, you know, 1643 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 3: those things. 1644 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that part of my life. You know. 1645 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 3: I think the last couple of years, I'm starting to 1646 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 3: get to a place where it's like, you know what, 1647 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 3: I got to start living. 1648 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I've been. 1649 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,799 Speaker 3: I've been, I've sacrificed, and I've been in lot zoned 1650 01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 3: in for so long. You know, I owe it to 1651 01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,560 Speaker 3: my solf a little bit to do that, you know. 1652 01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 3: And I think that's a byproduct of being a little 1653 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,240 Speaker 3: bit of a you know, I'm a delayed satisfaction, delayed 1654 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 3: gratification person like I can. I've always wanted to lock 1655 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 3: in for the first half, do what I gotta do, 1656 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 3: get to I need to get to make sure everything 1657 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,760 Speaker 3: is straight and set up, and then be a little 1658 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,160 Speaker 3: bit more, have the freedom to move how I want 1659 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,799 Speaker 3: to move and or whatever. So that's the long winded 1660 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 3: answer of of I'm not I'm not looking, But it 1661 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 3: would take a very special person to understand and grow 1662 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 3: with me, you know, just you know, you want to 1663 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 3: create memories, you know, I want to I want a family, 1664 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 1665 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,839 Speaker 4: Eventually, so we'll see, So we'll see. 1666 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,600 Speaker 2: You un lucky because I asked you that question. The 1667 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 2: other question was what's his type? I like that. 1668 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 4: I like that, I like that question. 1669 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:53,719 Speaker 2: I like that that's the wrong question I was reading. 1670 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. 1671 01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 1672 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't. 1673 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't. 1674 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Fifth and final question, if you get we asked this 1675 01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:09,920 Speaker 1: every guest who's ever been on the show, if you 1676 01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,760 Speaker 1: could create one law that everyone in the world had 1677 01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: to follow, what would it be? 1678 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:15,360 Speaker 2: The law that. 1679 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:23,599 Speaker 3: You couldn't intentionally kill or cause bodily harm to anyone. 1680 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 4: I think that covers a lot of stuff. 1681 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, you still have you got to leave room 1682 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,679 Speaker 3: people for humans to be humans, and everybody's not gonna 1683 01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,680 Speaker 3: be good, you know, everybody's not going to have all 1684 01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 3: that in there. 1685 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,840 Speaker 4: But if we can eliminate the senseless killing and. 1686 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 3: You know, the bodily harms you know, of other people's 1687 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 3: bodies in a real way, I think there's But then 1688 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 3: there's like the systemic thing I'm trying to get out 1689 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 3: of because like you know, I'm trying to eat, I'm 1690 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,479 Speaker 3: trying to level the playing field, you know, so just 1691 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 3: the economic opportunities that this already, those those systematic oppression, 1692 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 3: the systematic pressure that doesn't exist is the thing that 1693 01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:09,200 Speaker 3: I most I most want to change, So I'm trying 1694 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 3: to think of It's a good question, man. 1695 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,600 Speaker 1: You keeping about it, Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I like 1696 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,799 Speaker 1: you one, because it also applies to like you couldn't 1697 01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 1: develop products like your your question. I mean your answer 1698 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,680 Speaker 1: applies to food, drugs, medicine, which is kind of what 1699 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 1: keeps a lot of people stuck in the system because 1700 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,719 Speaker 1: if they can bodily harm to me isn't just physical violence. 1701 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 1: It's also the kind of things we ingest and consume, 1702 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,519 Speaker 1: and that is what keeps a lot of people stuck 1703 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,680 Speaker 1: because they're eating unhealthy food because that's all they have 1704 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,759 Speaker 1: access to and that's all they can afford. 1705 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,800 Speaker 2: And that plays with you. I mean that's what I 1706 01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:49,280 Speaker 2: was here in too, on a sub level. Yeah all right, 1707 01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:51,360 Speaker 2: I love. 1708 01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 1: It, Michael Jordan, Mike, it has been such a joy, 1709 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 1: and we've got to do a part two. I've got 1710 01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: I can talk to you for hours. I've got so 1711 01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 1: many questions, man, like you get into it. I want 1712 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 1: to thank you for your honesty, your openness, the fun 1713 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:07,920 Speaker 1: we've had bringing mass along everyone. If you're not drinking already, 1714 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: make sure you drink a mass while you listening on purpose, 1715 01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 1: and thank. 1716 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,519 Speaker 2: You so much for coming by. 1717 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: I wanted for our audience please tag me and Mike 1718 01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: with your favorite moments. I know you guys cut the 1719 01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: best clips on TikTok and Instagram. Do that for this episode. 1720 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,520 Speaker 1: There were so many moments where he was just downloading, 1721 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna have a big impact. So Mike, 1722 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:26,519 Speaker 1: thank you again. 1723 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,040 Speaker 4: Man, very grateful. Thank you so much for having me Broen. 1724 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:32,120 Speaker 4: It's been honored. It was worth the wait. Man, appreciate 1725 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,759 Speaker 4: you having me anytime. I appreciate you anytime. 1726 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,800 Speaker 1: If you love this episode, you'll love my interview with 1727 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,920 Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant on how to be strategic and obsessive to 1728 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 1: find your purpose. 1729 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 2: Our children have become less imaginative about how the problem 1730 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 2: solve in parents and coaches have become more directive and 1731 01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 2: trying to tell them how the behaviorsus teaching them how 1732 01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:53,759 Speaker 2: to behavior