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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January sixth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and

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Speaker 1: now a guy who walked to the paint store to

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Speaker 3: It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, January sixth,

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Speaker 3: the first hour presented by Jet Home Loans and a

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Speaker 3: busy two hours ahead. Doug Peterson out as the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: head coach. Trent Balkey stays as the Jaguars general manager.

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Speaker 3: Owners shot Con met with the media earlier. We'll hear

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Speaker 3: him coming up. We'll have, of course, Pete Briscoe and

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Speaker 3: Tony Boselli for an entire show of keeping it Real

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Speaker 3: today and fanatics fan questions, and we'll go around the

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Speaker 3: National Football League. Doug Peterson out as the head coach.

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Speaker 3: Trent Balkey is still in as the g owner. Shot

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Speaker 3: Con put out a statement this morning at around eight

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Speaker 3: twenty am saying that Balky and the others close to

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Speaker 3: the organization would hire a leader who shares his ambition

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Speaker 3: and quote is ready to seize the extraordinary opportunity. The

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Speaker 3: full statement available at Jaguars dot com. This afternoon though,

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Speaker 3: Jaguars owners shot con meeting with the media, and what

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Speaker 3: was it about the coaching that needed change?

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Speaker 4: Obviously, we made the playoffs. We're in the division game.

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Speaker 4: Last year we started off eighty three and then went

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Speaker 4: one in five, okay, and didn't make the playoff. Was

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Speaker 4: the winning season, but didn't make the playoffs. And after that,

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Speaker 4: you know, I started really right in Nashville, sat down

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Speaker 4: with Doug, Okay.

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Speaker 5: What are we going to do?

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Speaker 4: And he identified, you know, on the defensive side, we

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Speaker 4: needed to change the staff and saw and as the

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Speaker 4: season you know progress, obviously we weren't doing well. We

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Speaker 4: were close like yesterday, but not close enough to win

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Speaker 4: the game. And then as I spoke to you know,

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Speaker 4: Doug even last week for a good length of time,

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Speaker 4: you know, I just came to the conclusion what we

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Speaker 4: were doing was not working and a change in direction

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Speaker 4: was needed.

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Speaker 3: That shot con will hear more from him coming up.

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Speaker 3: Trent Balkey on the Zoom conversation with the media as well,

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Speaker 3: asked if he's surprised he's still the general manager.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if.

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Speaker 6: Surprised is the right word. You know, that's ultimately that's

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Speaker 6: not my decision. That's the decision of ownership, and I

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Speaker 6: certainly respect the decision that's been made and don't take

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Speaker 6: the job lightly. The real fact, the bottom line is

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Speaker 6: we weren't productive on the field. We didn't win enough games,

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Speaker 6: and I don't shy away from there. I'm just as

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Speaker 6: responsible as anybody else. And you know, all we can

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Speaker 6: do now is roll up our sleeves and go to work.

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Speaker 2: More from Trent Balke GM coming up as well.

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Speaker 3: We're on Tenson XL, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube, JP,

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Speaker 3: Shadwick with Pro Football Hall of Fame left tackle Tony

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Speaker 3: Bisselli in studio with US Today and Pete Prisco, CBS

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Speaker 3: Sports senior writer down in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Pete. How are you, uh well?

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Speaker 7: Wow?

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Speaker 8: Well, interesting day around the city of Jacksonville. I love

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Speaker 8: I love when when Trent says he's as responsible as

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Speaker 8: anybody else. Well, clearly he isn't because he didn't get fired,

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Speaker 8: so he's not. I mean, the finger was pointed at

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Speaker 8: the coach and coaching staff. It wasn't pointed at the

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Speaker 8: general manager.

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Speaker 9: So you know, from my standpoint, you guys know how

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Speaker 8: I am astounded they didn't just get rid of everybody.

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Speaker 8: And if you're gonna get rid of Doug Peterson, why

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Speaker 8: not get rid of everybody. That's the way I felt

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Speaker 8: about it. And and it didn't happen, and he's still

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Speaker 8: there for now. And the reason I say for now,

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Speaker 8: we don't know how long he's gonna be there. We

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Speaker 8: don't know if he's just being kept to be a

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Speaker 8: conduit through the interview process. You know, Look, Sead Cohn

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Speaker 8: doesn't know a lot of people in the NFL. He

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Speaker 8: doesn't know how to conduct an interview process. And I

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Speaker 8: think he's gonna lean on Trent Balke for that. The

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Speaker 8: problem becomes if he leans on Trent Balkey too much

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Speaker 8: and Trent Balke influences the process, and by that.

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Speaker 9: I mean gets one of his guys in there.

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Speaker 8: And if that's the case, that's never good for the organization.

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Speaker 8: And that's why I think it's gonna be a problem

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Speaker 8: the way it's being structured. And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 8: Trent Balkey has one year left on his deal. As

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Speaker 8: I was told he was asked today. Shod Cohn was

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Speaker 8: asked today about the contract extension. Well, don't you think

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Speaker 8: that's something that a coach coming in for an interview,

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Speaker 8: I need to know what the plan is for Trent

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Speaker 8: Palky I And the word is it's gonna be a

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Speaker 8: coach centric organization. And we talked about that before. The

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Speaker 8: coach is gonna have the juice in the building. It's

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Speaker 8: gonna be he's the guy. And if that's the case,

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Speaker 8: and you see a guy you really like and he

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Speaker 8: doesn't like Trent Balkey, but he has somebody else he'd

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Speaker 8: like to get in there, then go get the guy.

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Speaker 8: You can't let Trent Balkey influence you from making the

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Speaker 8: right decision for the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, Pete.

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Speaker 7: I hear you. I did the one area I take

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Speaker 7: a little bit of an issue with and disagree with

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Speaker 7: for you to say shot Con doesn't know a lot

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Speaker 7: of people. He's been an owner in this league since

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Speaker 7: twenty twelve.

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Speaker 8: That guy I always leaned on people I handle the

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Speaker 8: interview for us.

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Speaker 7: That's not true. He led the whole process last year

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Speaker 7: and interviewed like fifteen people whatever it was, and everyone

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Speaker 7: complained that it was too long and he was being

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Speaker 7: too thorough and talking to too many people. And I

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Speaker 7: know for a fact because I've talked to agents. They know,

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Speaker 7: they pick up the phone, shots talked to them. Like,

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Speaker 7: so to say Shot does not know people now, I

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Speaker 7: just think is wildly wrong, Like way off base. I'm

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Speaker 7: just telling you, if you would have said this in

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Speaker 7: if you would have said this in twenty twelve, twenty fifteen, Okay,

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Speaker 7: maybe this is twenty twenty five. He's gone through multiple coaches,

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Speaker 7: multiple gms, been to the playoffs, He's on owner committees,

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Speaker 7: He's like leads around international. He doesn't know the owners, Tony,

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Speaker 7: he knows the coaches, he knows he's around. Now, look,

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Speaker 7: I'm just.

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Speaker 9: Telling nobody to run the interview process for him. I'm not.

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Speaker 7: That's a different conversation. Like a lot of owners hire

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Speaker 7: firms to run the process. Jets Jets are doing.

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Speaker 8: You Noe who I work with, and Mike Tannenbaum, who's

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Speaker 8: the former.

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Speaker 9: Jet GM.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna say something that's gonna seem like I'm

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Speaker 7: taking a shot at Tannabond and Spielman. Okay, and I'm not.

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Speaker 9: Yad, I take shots Atrix Fieldman all the time.

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Speaker 7: Why would Why are they any more qualified to lead

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Speaker 7: a search than Trent Balke. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 7: How many Super Bowls has either of those tea guys

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Speaker 7: took a team to? The answer zero? Just for the record,

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Speaker 7: how many AFC or NFC Championships have they taken a

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Speaker 7: team to? Built a team that went to.

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Speaker 10: Those stealing and went to a couple okay super Bowls?

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Speaker 10: Never no championship games, yeah, but never super Bowls. Tam Mom,

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Speaker 10: I don't think it's done either. No, okay, love or hate.

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Speaker 10: And I've been pretty much honest as far as my.

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Speaker 7: Praise and criticism of Trent Balky as Jim, I try

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Speaker 7: to be down the line. When he does something I

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Speaker 7: disagree with, I say I disagree with, never personal. When

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Speaker 7: I say he does something good like the Walker Little,

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Speaker 7: I think it was a great deal, did a great job,

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Speaker 7: I said, great job. But the bottom line, and the

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Speaker 7: dude has taken was built a team that went to

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Speaker 7: three straight NFC championship games, went to a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 7: came here was part of the process of building the

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Speaker 7: team that went to the playoffs in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 7: and was eight and three. And I'm not saying I

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Speaker 7: agree with everything of them, But why Pete is Spielman

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Speaker 7: and Tannybaum any more qualified than Trent Balke to lead

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Speaker 7: a search Because at the end of the day, and

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Speaker 7: this is one thing I know about Seat Khan, I've

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Speaker 7: known him since twenty twelve. I've had multiple sit downs

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Speaker 7: with them in conversations. He is going to make the decision.

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Speaker 7: He will listen, he will go through the process. But

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Speaker 7: I don't care if you're Trent Balky, Tony BISSELLI, you know,

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Speaker 7: Mark Lamping, J. P. Shadwick, Pete Briscoe, you know Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump could give all their opinions. Sean khn is going

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Speaker 7: to make the decision of who the next head coach is.

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Speaker 7: I have no issue Trance the GM. He decided that

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Speaker 7: Trent has done a good enough job and we can

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Speaker 7: we can break down whether we agree or not with that,

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Speaker 7: and Trent's gonna run the process. I don't see why

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Speaker 7: that is any different Pete than Spielman or Tannybomb being

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Speaker 7: hired by Woody Johnson to run the process.

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Speaker 9: Who who kidnapped Tony Bli tonight? Who is in your body?

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Speaker 9: What the hell?

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Speaker 2: I'm not.

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Speaker 7: Broke up?

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Speaker 3: Would say the question I would have and we'll get

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Speaker 3: back to Pete the second when he gets what the

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Speaker 3: hell are.

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Speaker 9: You talking about? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 7: You are you are saying he shouldn't run the search,

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Speaker 7: but you're fine with Spielman and Tanning Bomb running the

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Speaker 7: sports for the Jets. What's the difference is my question?

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Speaker 8: Well, I don't think Spielman particularly, don't think Tann Bomb

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Speaker 9: He was fired by the team, damn like fire.

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Speaker 8: Hey, you know what, Doug Peterson knows a lot of

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Speaker 8: people in the NFL and a lot of coaches. Did

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Speaker 8: Jack Wyers should bring back Peterson and allow him to

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Speaker 7: I didn't any I didn't say that.

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Speaker 8: It doesn't It doesn't make any sense at all. But

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Speaker 8: I also think that's the reason why he's keeping Bulky around.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is. Here's a question I have.

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Speaker 7: I don't think I guess that where I'm disagreeing with

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Speaker 7: you your premise of why he's getting around. I disagree

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Speaker 2: Is there any reservations for audio work?

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Speaker 3: Is there any reservations that potential coaches might have considering

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Speaker 3: the track record that Bulky had after Harball?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: In San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: I think that whether it's reality or perception that is

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Speaker 7: we'd be disingenuous not to say that. Now you can

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Speaker 7: argue whether it's true or not, but the perception out there,

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Speaker 7: and I've heard it, and Pete you've heard it. And

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Speaker 7: you go through the list of coaches from the forty

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Speaker 7: nine to the Jaguars. I think it's funny about the

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Speaker 7: Urban Meyer because that was seag cons but higher, I mean, he.

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Speaker 9: Was the g.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let's not go down. I've tried to forget about

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Speaker 7: Urban Meyer ever existing in this organization, so let's not

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Speaker 7: bring it up. But anyways, going through that list, there's

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Speaker 7: no doubt that if you talk to people around the league,

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Speaker 7: the perception is that Trent Balky ram these people out

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Speaker 7: and did a poor job and had confrontations and conflict

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Speaker 7: between the front office and the head and the coaching staff.

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Speaker 7: There's no doubt about it. That's the perception, that's the talk,

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Speaker 7: and and Pete has heard it. I've heard it. There

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Speaker 7: are individuals who say they will not come to an

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Speaker 7: organization if Trent Baulky is a gym. Pete, is that accurate?

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Speaker 7: And right now I get that people. Right now, there's

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Speaker 7: But that's only if you after you interview him, Pete,

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Speaker 8: Correct, But that's why shot led left the door open

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Speaker 11: Said that he should say he said that lateness. He

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think that's really you know, relevant.

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Speaker 5: The people are doing. I really like, you.

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Speaker 3: That's Jaguars owner's Shod Khan when asked if Trent Balky's

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Speaker 7: tough year, you don't think when is important? I mean

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Speaker 7: it's and so I and so shods. What shod communicated

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Speaker 7: today is like Okay, this is the way, Like we're

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Speaker 7: all in. Our job is support this head coach whose

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Speaker 7: job is to go win football games. That's basically the structure.

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Speaker 7: If you want to simplify it and be a reductionist

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Speaker 7: and go down to the base levels like this guy,

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Speaker 7: we all have to support him. Trent, Me, Scouting, medical, everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so that they can't have success, so we all have

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Speaker 7: so then we all have success. That's how it works.

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Speaker 7: And that's what Sean was saying. I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Pete Prisco back with us. Now you hear all that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 8: I had to change computers and headset and everything. Something happened,

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Speaker 8: so yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I hear Tony waving all.

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Speaker 12: Over the damn place.

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Speaker 7: I mean, come on, what do you instead of just

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Speaker 7: taking a personal shot what you were outstanding at doing?

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Speaker 7: And by the way, I saw Brady and he made

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Speaker 7: sure to let me know what a pain and then

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Speaker 7: you know what you are on a daily basis, he

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Speaker 7: told Yeah, we talked, told me, we shared stories about

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Speaker 7: what a terrible person you are. But instead of just

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Speaker 7: taking a personal shot, what do you disagree with what

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Speaker 7: I just said? I'm not I'm just saying that because

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Speaker 7: Pete where we started. I don't know if you heard it.

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Speaker 7: We ran a clip. Sead was asked about extending Bulky

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Speaker 7: and basically he gave a yeah, not relevant and talked

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Speaker 7: about coach being the head coach, being head coach centric

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Speaker 7: in the job of the organizations to support that group,

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Speaker 7: to give them the tools to have success, you know,

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Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah blah. And I was saying, I

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Speaker 7: actually agree with that, and if you look at successful

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Speaker 7: organizations and the teams that have had success, it's built

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Speaker 7: around that head coach and giving them the tools and

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Speaker 7: the in the ammunition, ammunition to go win the fight.

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Speaker 12: Well, well, let me ask you this though. Let's let's

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Speaker 12: let's look at it from this stamp.

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Speaker 8: Okay, if Trent Balk stays and doesn't get a contract

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Speaker 8: extension and the new coach comes in, you think they're

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Speaker 8: going to be working in harm harmony together.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you do. Why wouldn't they.

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Speaker 12: Because history says otherwise?

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Speaker 7: Oh, are you talking in general or or Trent specifically?

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Speaker 7: Did he say? Trent said, Trent, Okay, sorry, you're going

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Speaker 7: out again. I mean, what do you what? You would

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Speaker 7: you know?

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Speaker 12: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Did you pay your bills? Did you pay your bill

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Speaker 7: this year?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I was just on camera about twenty minutes ago, so

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Speaker 8: it might not be my, might.

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Speaker 12: Not be me.

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Speaker 7: So you're saying that we haven't paid our bills yet.

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Speaker 13: Maybe No, I guess you're you're paying a lot of

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Speaker 13: coaches who aren't working, so maybe you can't that funny.

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Speaker 7: Well, it's really not funny if it's your money. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: not to say, I guess, Pete. The reason I'd say,

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Speaker 7: I think they will. So let's play this out. So

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Speaker 7: because you said Trent specifically, unless you say, let's do

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Speaker 7: someone besides Ben Johnson, because that's everyone. Let's let's say

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Speaker 7: Mike Rabel came in here as head coach. Why wouldn't

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Speaker 7: Mike Rabel make it work the first year because he

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Speaker 7: knows if he has success as the head coach and

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Speaker 7: Trent can help him have success, or whoever in that seat,

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Speaker 7: why wouldn't he work with him until he knows it

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Speaker 7: doesn't work, because he knows he's going to be there

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Speaker 7: more than one year. There are also bodies okay, well, okay,

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Speaker 7: their buddies. Let's say someone who's not Aaron Glenn. Let's

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Speaker 7: just say Aaron Glenn, who I don't think has any

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Speaker 7: relationship with Trent Balky. Aaron Glenn comes in, first time

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Speaker 7: head coach of the organization. He comes in, Why wouldn't

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Speaker 7: he try to make it work with Trent even if

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Speaker 7: Trent had one year on his deal because it benefits him.

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Speaker 12: But he's gonna try and make it work.

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Speaker 7: And if it doesn't, guess what, there'll be someone else

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Speaker 7: next year.

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Speaker 12: But Tony, you know how egos are in that business?

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Speaker 12: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 8: Guys don't get along half the time to begin with,

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Speaker 8: and now all of a sudden you're getting guys stuck

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Speaker 8: when you're stuck with them.

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Speaker 12: Think about that.

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Speaker 7: There's only thirty two of these jobs, Pete and I

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Speaker 7: and I know there's a lot of talk about and

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Speaker 7: we all talk like this this time of year, and

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Speaker 7: I hear it all the time, these coaches, And I'm

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Speaker 7: not going there if this person's hair or that, bye bye, bye,

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Speaker 7: bye bye. And then the job opens up and there's

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Speaker 7: a long list of people waiting to work there. Kid

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Speaker 7: that Tony Biselli, I'm asking you, is that not true?

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Speaker 9: Pete?

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Speaker 12: What do we have going on either tonight? I just

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Speaker 12: don't understand.

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Speaker 7: I'm you're the one who said it a second ago.

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Speaker 7: Is that not true?

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Speaker 8: I agree with you, guys should do the interview. I'm saying, okay,

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Speaker 8: And you said there's only thirty two of them. There's

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Speaker 8: also only thirty two general managers in the league, and

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Speaker 8: you're keeping a guy who's on will be on.

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Speaker 12: His third coach.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 12: Two number one.

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Speaker 8: Overall picks who spent a boatload of money for a

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Speaker 8: team that won won?

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Speaker 12: How many games did they win? Again? Remind me for

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Speaker 12: so so think about it from that standpoint.

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Speaker 8: I'm coming in to be I'm going to be the

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Speaker 8: new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and I'm stuck

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Speaker 8: with that job.

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna say, well, wait a second. Two things. One,

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Speaker 7: I think Sead deserves credit because it would have been

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Speaker 7: easy for him to do what a lot of other

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Speaker 7: teams did, like the Giants and the Dolphins and others

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Speaker 7: who put out comments today is like, we're staying the

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Speaker 7: course with the individuals we have. And so he said

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Speaker 7: no and got rid of a guy because he did

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Speaker 7: not see progress on the field since the middle of

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Speaker 7: last year. And he said no, I'm doing it now.

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Speaker 7: I'm not waiting. We're making a decision, so let's give

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Speaker 7: him credit for that. At the same time, to Pete's point,

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Speaker 7: he he kept the guy who's been through multiple coaches

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Speaker 7: and everything else. That was also part of that fallout.

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Speaker 7: John made the decision he thought I was more coaching

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Speaker 7: than Jim. Okay, great, that was his decision. My whole point,

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Speaker 7: Pete is he also said in the press conference, if

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Speaker 7: someone came in and said, hey, there's a better structure

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Speaker 7: or this or that or the other, and could convince him,

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Speaker 7: all like to me, I took I went and came

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Speaker 7: away from this saying, it's like this is an owner

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Speaker 7: who just wants to win a right, So somebody has

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Speaker 7: a better problems, a better process, or a better deal

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Speaker 7: than I'm good ears and so I think, And that's

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Speaker 7: why I'm saying, Pete, my whole point is, I'm not

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Speaker 7: I get what you're saying because it's true and you

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Speaker 7: and I agree on this, and we've talked about the

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Speaker 7: perception out there and the conversation is that there are

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Speaker 7: certain guys who will not take this job. If Trent

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Speaker 7: Bulky's the gym, that it is what it is, it's

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Speaker 7: out there. My point is. I think a lot of

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Speaker 7: times that's more talk then reality when push comes to shove.

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Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: Okay, okay, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying. Should you That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: Should you be forced to take the job with him?

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Speaker 7: There, I'm not saying you should, Pete. I'm just saying

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Speaker 7: you're you're missing my point. That's why, like you're losing

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Speaker 7: your mind. My only point in this thing. There's only

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Speaker 7: thirty two of these jobs. There's only five of them

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Speaker 7: open right now. They get they pay a lot of money,

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Speaker 7: they're very prestigious, and a lot of guys. Because I've

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Speaker 7: had conversations with these people, they tell me I'm not

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Speaker 7: taking the job if X, Y and z's there, Okay,

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Speaker 7: and then.

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Speaker 2: Amazingly, those contracts slash on the desk.

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Speaker 7: It's like, oh wait a minute. Amazingly, like weeks later,

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Speaker 7: they're interviewing for the dang job and they're like, I

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Speaker 7: want that job. It pays eight million bucks a year.

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Speaker 2: How many zeros are No?

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Speaker 9: I get that.

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Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I get everything. I get everything you say, And you're

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Speaker 8: right about that. Guys will interview and somebody will take

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Speaker 8: the job. But why should you be forced to do that?

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Speaker 7: You shouldn't.

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Speaker 12: Why should you be Why should you be taking an

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Speaker 12: opportunity to be a head coach in a national force?

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Speaker 12: You should not next step in your career.

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Speaker 8: No, but why should it be at a place where

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Speaker 8: a general manager is being kept?

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Speaker 12: But they clearly are cleaning everybody else out the coaches.

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Speaker 8: You know you, you do realize what this message sends now,

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Speaker 8: I do all dog.

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Speaker 14: Peterste the general manager, had nothing to do.

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Speaker 7: With it, and we're running over. I want to come

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Speaker 7: back to that, Pete, but I want to finish it.

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Speaker 7: We'll come back to the coaching real quick. I want

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Speaker 7: to finish this to make sure we're on the same page.

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Speaker 7: I think we are, Pete. I don't think anyone should

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Speaker 7: have to. My only point is is Shad Khan is

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Speaker 7: the owner of the team. It's his progative to do

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Speaker 7: whatever the heck he wants. It's his money, and what

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Speaker 7: he is saying is right now. Trent Balky's my GM.

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Speaker 7: He also said at the end, if somebody comes in

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Speaker 7: and has a better idea and can convince me that

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Speaker 7: I should do something, different that will help us win.

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Speaker 7: I will listen. So, No, it is the prerogative of

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Speaker 7: every head coach, Ben Johnson. If Ben Johnson doesn't want

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Speaker 7: to come here because of Trent Balky, that's his prerogative

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Speaker 7: and I respect it. That's his decision.

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Speaker 8: Well what happens if you're missing out on a great

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Speaker 8: coach because you've stuck with Brett Trent Balk, well.

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Speaker 7: Then that is guess what? And guess what, Pete. Then

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Speaker 7: that is Sean Conn's responsibility. And at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day, if Ben.

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Speaker 12: Johnson even why even have it in this situation. You

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Speaker 12: could have done you could have fixed it one clean.

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Speaker 7: Swoop because he doesn't. Okay, let's let's let's talk when

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Speaker 7: we get back.

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Speaker 2: As we're working, we gotta come back, all right.

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Speaker 12: Well, I just want to know.

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Speaker 8: If Ja he got the same Christmas bonus you got

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Speaker 8: for being a yes man?

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Speaker 7: Now, how would Pete? That's unfair And I'm gonna come

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Speaker 7: back and take you the test because that's not true.

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Speaker 7: What did I I want to know what I said

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Speaker 7: that you disagree with that's not in fact.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the answer is no, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: By the way, By the way, I didn't either we're.

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Speaker 2: Back in a moment, it wouldn't have been on the

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Speaker 2: radiod I did.

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Speaker 3: In the aftermath of the firing of Doug Peterson, Trip

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Speaker 3: Walkey stays as a general manager, Jaguars Ownershot Cohn and

654
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Speaker 3: Balky met with the media on Zoom today. We'll hear

655
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Speaker 3: more of that coming up in X is on Fire today.

656
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Speaker 3: Of course, we've got the fanatics fan questions coming up

657
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Speaker 3: a little bit later.

658
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Speaker 7: We're starting early.

659
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: We've got people calling Tony Bisselli a turncoat now on

660
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Speaker 3: X I mean they're coming at you, Tony.

661
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 7: That's fine, bring it. Pete started misrepresenting what I'm saying.

662
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 7: But you know what, let's.

663
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Speaker 9: Go, I don't know what.

664
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Speaker 7: Well you said. I'm getting paid off to say what

665
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Speaker 7: I'm saying, So that's basically the.

666
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: Same I didn't get paid for the rest and.

667
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Speaker 7: If you'll use you know xers and great Jaguar fans.

668
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 7: I love you take your shot because but here's reality.

669
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 7: The reality is Shat Khan is the owner of this team.

670
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 7: It's his team. He owns it, he bought it. He

671
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 7: gets the ability to make decisions and who works here

672
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 7: and who does not including yours truly me, everyone in

673
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 7: this building. It's his job. He made a decision based

674
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 7: on the body of work after three years of wins

675
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 7: and losses, that we were going in the wrong direction.

676
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 7: He has said from day one, this is a coach

677
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 7: centric organization. He believes that the head coach should be

678
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 7: the loudest voice. That is that they're they're equal. They

679
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 7: all report to him, but the head coach is, you know,

680
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 7: among equals. He's the lead. He's the lead he has

681
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 7: He's the one who's gonna drive the boat. Sept the culture,

682
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 7: who we are and where we're going. That's what he said.

683
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 7: He said it today again in the press conference. So

684
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 7: he made a decision that based on the direction that

685
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 7: he felt like he needed to make a change on

686
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 7: the coaching after doing all the evaluation. You can agree

687
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: or disagree with that, whether he should be the head

688
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 7: coach that whether he Doug should have got fired or not,

689
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 7: he thought he should. He felt like, based on where

690
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 7: this organization was today, that Trent Balkey had done enough

691
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 7: while still under contract to fill be the GM moving forward,

692
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 7: while at the same time he said that if someone

693
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 7: came with a better thing, Because he made a great

694
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 7: point in the press conference because people asked him, why

695
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 7: don't you clean house? He's like, well, tell me what

696
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 7: cleaning house means? All this prayer phrase clean house and

697
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 7: he's like, well, what does that mean? Should I get

698
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 7: rid of all the trainers and the equipment guys and

699
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 7: the video guys? Are they all? Are they all trash too?

700
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 12: That's not what that question was either.

701
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you they asked the question. When you

702
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 7: say clean house, are you saying so, just get rid

703
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 7: of the GM? You get rid of all the scouts?

704
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 7: Do you get rid of all the scouts too?

705
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 12: Eventually you will if your GM comes in, new.

706
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 8: GM comes in, he hires his own scouts, Yes, unless

707
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 8: he unless he really likes guys on the stamp.

708
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 12: That happens all in time to this league, And okay, it.

709
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: Usually happens right after the drift, right after the draft

710
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: and that's fine.

711
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 7: But my point is the whole point I'm making. I'm

712
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 7: not sitting here saying he should or should not have

713
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 7: fired Trent Balky. I have not weighed in at all,

714
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 7: just like I didn't weigh in all year whether he

715
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 7: should fire Trimbalke or Doug Peterson. I haven't weighed in

716
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 7: whether he should should have fired Doug or not. It's

717
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 7: not my job to hire and fire people at the

718
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 7: end of the day. And I've said it before and

719
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: I'll say it now. Sean and whoever is evaluating this

720
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 7: buility needed to take a deep look at the whole

721
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 7: thing because it's not working. We had four wins. We

722
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 7: spent more money than anybody and we have four wins.

723
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 7: We were one in five to finish the season. We're

724
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 7: not productive. We have too many we've been in the

725
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 7: top five too many picking. We have too many double

726
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 7: digit losing seasons. So that's all I said. And my

727
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 7: point is when Pete brings up, he's like, well, you

728
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 7: should have fired He can't be a part of the search.

729
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 7: You know, if Sean doesn't know anybody, that's that's nonsense.

730
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 7: He's been around since twenty twelve and everyone gets all excited,

731
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 7: let's go high. What GM do you want? First of all,

732
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 7: half the people on X you don't even know what

733
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 7: makes a good GM. You you're you're giving me names

734
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 7: of guys who are scouts. How do you know they're

735
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 7: gonna be good? What they do? Do you even know what?

736
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 12: I don't know anybody's ever gonna be good? Is this?

737
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 7: That's my whole point, Pete, and you're my whole point

738
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: is And then you got your saying, well, you know,

739
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 7: look at the Jets. They're going with Tannebaugh and Spielman.

740
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 7: Oh great, two guys who are talking heads at networks.

741
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 7: They can't get a job. I'm gonna trust No, that's

742
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 7: what you said, Pete. That's what you said, and so

743
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 7: you have to guy, that's what you said.

744
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 8: You said, ultimately responsible for the mess that you're in,

745
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 8: conducting the helping it, eliting the search.

746
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 12: Just think about that for a second. The guy who.

747
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 8: Is ultimately responsible for the mess that this team is

748
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 8: in right now is leading the search.

749
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 7: No, I disagree with that. He's not leading it. Shod's

750
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 7: leading it, just like he led the last search with

751
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 7: Doug Peterson. Yes, Pete, you're wrong.

752
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 12: He'll be he'll he'll make the vital decisions.

753
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 8: They'll bring the guys to him, and Trent will have

754
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 8: major input on who comes to.

755
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: That part of the statement today. And this is an

756
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: interesting part to me. I will collaborate with GM, Trim

757
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 3: Balki and others within and close to our organization.

758
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 7: I think me well, but let's find out this happened

759
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 7: today and people are losing their mind and I got

760
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 7: you today. At this moment, I have not talked to

761
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 7: Shod since the announcement has been made, so I don't

762
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: know if I'm another or not.

763
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 8: The only thing I can think of right now is

764
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 8: you're either another or somebody's outside taking you down from the.

765
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 7: Reg That's not true, Pete. I have not said I've

766
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 7: I've been the loud loudest voice that what we are

767
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 7: doing is not good enough. I've just said from the beginning,

768
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 7: I'm not going to hire and fire anybody. I've been

769
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 7: critical of Doug when he was here as the coach,

770
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 7: and I've praised him when he was the coach. I've

771
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 7: been critical of Trent Bulky when he's the coach, and

772
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 7: I've praised him as the I mean as a GM.

773
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 7: And I've praised him as the GM. I'm never gonna

774
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 7: hire a fire that's not my job. I will be critical.

775
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 7: I thought we missed on free agency. I didn't like

776
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 7: where we did certain things this year. I think the

777
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 7: results speak for themselves.

778
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 12: Not critical. You're not critical at all.

779
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 8: Keeping a guy who was ultimately responsible for the same

780
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 8: thing that got the coach fired, You're not critical of that.

781
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 7: It's the progative of the owner. Let's see, let's see

782
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 7: if this plays out.

783
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 12: I mean, you can't be critical of it. It is

784
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 12: the progative.

785
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 8: I don't hire and fire anybody either, and I don't

786
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 8: have a team to hire or fire anybody. Sean con does,

787
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 8: and I respect Sean kan. I just don't think this

788
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 8: is a great, a great way to go about it.

789
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 12: That's not how I would go about it. That's all

790
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 12: I'm saying. I would not go I would when I mean,

791
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 12: when somebody asked that question.

792
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 7: Ask that question, and that's fair.

793
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 12: Who asked? Who asked to clean the house question?

794
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 2: I think I don't remember off the top of my head.

795
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 8: And whoever asked that question wasn't talking about the cafeteria workers.

796
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 8: They weren't talking about They were talking about the general manager.

797
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 8: And when you talk about cleaning house, you mean the

798
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 8: general manager and the coach.

799
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 7: We're come back, I'm gonna ask one I'm gonna ask

800
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 7: one question to Pete. We can Pete answer when we

801
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 7: get back in the NFL. Who's more responsible for the

802
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 7: wins and losses? The head coach or the GM.

803
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 12: All right, let me think about it.

804
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 7: Let's talk about that when we come back, because I

805
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 7: I want to. I want to dive into that because

806
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 7: that's part of like, I'm not trying to dodge anything,

807
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 7: and I don't appreciate I love the do ball people.

808
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 7: The one thing I'm not is a turncoat. And Pete,

809
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 7: you can kiss it, kiss where the sun doesn't shine.

810
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 7: I've never been paid off, so you can kiss my

811
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: you know what. And I'll come down there to Southward

812
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 7: and beat you beyond recognition.

813
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 9: And so.

814
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 7: No, I trust me. You want to let it go,

815
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 7: we can drive your ass up here and let's go.

816
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. Wow, wrong one.

817
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,280
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00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,680
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819
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825
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Speaker 3: Vaselli match. Now that would be entertainment. Can you imagine?

826
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 12: No?

827
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 5: Wow?

828
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 7: First, if if Tony Cobb put Pte and I in

829
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 7: the ring for an a W, it would be the

830
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 7: most unathletic, unh unlike coordinated arabic there, Like there'd be

831
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 7: no like flips and like it'd be like on the

832
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 7: ground slow motion like that.

833
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 12: I mean, we can't look. We both lost a bunch

834
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 12: of weight. But I need taking my damn shirt off.

835
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 7: Oh I'm fine, Pete, I'm fine taking the shirt off.

836
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 7: I'm just not gonna move fast enough where it can

837
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 7: I can hurt myself for it, like I can't. It'll

838
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 7: be like it would be awful.

839
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 12: M right for the bad hip.

840
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 7: Oh it's not to hip. Some worry about the shoulder.

841
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 7: You'd hit my shoulder and I just crumble.

842
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: I go down to lift you up over his head.

843
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: There's no way with the shoulder.

844
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 7: I'd have to lift you like right to my chin,

845
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 7: Like hey, Pete, let's go.

846
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 12: I got him so, I got him so riled up.

847
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 12: In the last second he was driving down.

848
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 7: I still right now, just a flat street brawl. I'm in.

849
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 12: All right.

850
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: So the question before the question was what is more

851
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: responsible for wins and losses?

852
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Head coach or GM Pete. What's your answer?

853
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 8: The answer to that question to me is always the

854
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 8: general manager. And if we always go back to what

855
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 8: we say, it's Jimmy's and Joe's and not x'es and o's.

856
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 8: And so from that standpoint, I will stand by that.

857
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 8: It doesn't mean you don't have to have a good coach,

858
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 8: because the player's got to get developed too, and that

859
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 8: has been a.

860
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 12: Problem in Jacksonville.

861
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 8: I'm not going to sugarcoat that, and I'm not going

862
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 8: to sit here and defend Doug Peterson and the development

863
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 8: of players and the offensive system and everything else.

864
00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 12: I'm just I'm just not But the ultimately talent wins

865
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 12: in this league, and so.

866
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: It's general manager much more important.

867
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 7: I disagree, like on tho I think the head coach

868
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Speaker 7: is the more important position.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you know what, if you have bad talent,

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Speaker 8: hold on, let me, or good talent a bad coach,

871
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Speaker 8: who's gonna have a better team?

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Speaker 7: I think the good coach with uh, I think if

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Speaker 7: I think you have extremes like really good, really bad,

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Speaker 7: but I think good coaching. Good coaching is in the

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Speaker 7: game of football in the NFL more than any other

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Speaker 7: professional sports. The head coach is absolutely critical. And it's

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Speaker 7: also why Pete. Head coaches in this league make probably

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Speaker 7: two x what general managers make.

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Speaker 8: Okay, you have Mac Jones and I have Trevor Lawrence

880
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Speaker 8: because I drafted him, and your guy drafted and busted

881
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Speaker 8: out and took Mac Jones.

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Speaker 12: Who's who's going to have a better team? Well, tell

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Speaker 12: me better the coach.

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Speaker 8: Your coach is Bill Belichick in his heyday, and my

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Speaker 8: coaches is uh Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 12: Is your team gonna be better than mine?

887
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Speaker 7: Well, I mean you're going extreme, so everything else, everything else?

888
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Speaker 7: So like, okay, I'll give you another like I don't

889
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Speaker 7: like like call it single players. I'll give you an example.

890
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Speaker 7: Who's more responsible for Detroit Brad Holmes or Dan Campbell?

891
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Speaker 7: Brad Holmes. Yeah, because you're crazy. You are nuts.

892
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Speaker 8: Okay, Who's who, like who made the decision to go

893
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Speaker 8: get Jared Goff.

894
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Speaker 7: Who's who set the culture, who's at the work ethic,

895
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Speaker 7: who's at the toughness? Who like Jared Goff was a

896
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Speaker 7: shell of himself. So you're telling me Brad Holmes fixed

897
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Speaker 7: Jared Goff.

898
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Speaker 12: Goff went to a Super Bowl with the rim.

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Speaker 7: He was run out of town and he thought he

900
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Speaker 7: was getting benched when he went and talked to uh

901
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Speaker 7: Dan Campbell. So you're telling me you'd give Brad Holmes

902
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Speaker 7: credit for fixing Jared got more than than you, Like

903
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Speaker 7: you're out of your mind, Like you've lost all respect gone.

904
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Speaker 7: Now I'm really.

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Speaker 3: Driving down or two of Jaguars Happy Hours coming up,

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Speaker 3: including fanatics fan questions will go around the league plenty

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Speaker 3: more to comments. Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 5: You know what is a complete overhaul of the franchise? Okay,

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Speaker 5: we have I think.

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Speaker 4: If you look at it, health and wellness obviously up

911
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Speaker 4: the players, medical, you know, statistics, analysis, scouting, and you

912
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Speaker 4: know a number of other elements along with you know,

913
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Speaker 4: contract administration.

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Speaker 5: All of those areas you know, we have.

915
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Speaker 4: Really changed improved circling over the last four or five years.

916
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Speaker 5: So to change all of that is almost like suicidal.

917
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Speaker 4: That that you've got eighty five people working on that

918
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Speaker 4: side and you say I'm gonna get rid of them

919
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Speaker 4: and find eighty five new people.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna be better than that.

921
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Speaker 4: You know, that's that's like shooting yourself the fut I mean,

922
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Speaker 4: we need to go to work on something that is broken,

923
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Speaker 4: that needs to be fixed, and continually be improving things

924
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Speaker 4: that are working.

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Speaker 3: That's Jaguars owners shot con earlier today on a Zoom

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Speaker 3: press conference with the media, and it's our two Jaguars

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Speaker 3: Happy Hour, JP shatterck, Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco the second

928
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Speaker 3: Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after

929
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Speaker 3: the game, and during the game. We're on Tintinexcel, Jaguars

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Speaker 3: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. The Jaguars have fired head coach

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson after three seasons. Peterson finished twenty two and

932
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Speaker 3: twenty nine in the regular season as Jaguars head coach,

933
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Speaker 3: but finished his and you're five and eighteen in his

934
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Speaker 3: last twenty three games. The Jaguars are now into another

935
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Speaker 3: coaching search. Owner Shot con will now have his sixth

936
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Speaker 3: full time head coach in what will be his fourteenth

937
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Speaker 3: season as the owner coming up in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Started with Mike Mlwarkeye for a year, Gus Bradley for

939
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Speaker 3: four years, Doug Marone for four years, Urban Meyer not

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Speaker 3: even a year, Darryl Bebble was the interim that doesn't count,

941
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Speaker 3: and then Doug Peterson the last three years onto twenty

942
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Speaker 3: twenty five and beyond with Trent Balky as the general manager.

943
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Speaker 3: He will remain and Trent Balke on his alignment with

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Speaker 3: the head coach moving ahead.

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Speaker 6: I think Doug and I were aligned, very aligned and

946
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Speaker 6: reopened and honest conversations with Doug for three straight years.

947
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Speaker 6: So I don't know that the marriage factor. You know,

948
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Speaker 6: this is a situation where you go out and you

949
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Speaker 6: pick the best person you can pick and you go

950
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Speaker 6: to work.

951
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Speaker 7: You roll up your sleeve and go to work.

952
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Speaker 5: Nobody has a crystal ball.

953
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Speaker 6: Mistakes are made in all the time in this business

954
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Speaker 6: and you got to you gotta self correct.

955
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Speaker 3: And that's Trent Balky Jaguars general managers still on with

956
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Speaker 3: the team and the con bulkeypresser available at Jaguars dot Com.

957
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Speaker 3: Jaguars YouTube from earlier today, JP Shadwick, Pete Prisco, Tony

958
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Speaker 3: Boselli rehashing everything that has happened the day after the season,

959
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Speaker 3: and a lot has happened. Doug Peterson is out. The

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Speaker 3: search begins.

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Speaker 2: Tony.

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Speaker 7: Here we are, Yeah, I mean, I mean Peter. We

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Speaker 7: finished last hour, Pete with the conversation. You know, GM

964
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Speaker 7: or head coach? Who's more responsible? And I you and

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Speaker 7: I agree on most things about this league, but I

966
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Speaker 7: just disagree with you on the head coach is the

967
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Speaker 7: most important hire you can make.

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Speaker 12: Well, let me ask this, Tony.

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Speaker 8: Bill Belichick football coach was undone by Bill Belichick general manager.

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Speaker 12: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 9: Uh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think that. I'm just thinking, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think that's right. But I guess my bigger point is, Pete,

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Speaker 7: they're both important. I'm not saying you can do one

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Speaker 7: without the other.

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Speaker 12: But there's no do I believe that there's the question.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't that?

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Speaker 2: The question was what one's more important to winning?

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Speaker 7: And the more important the winnings is the head coach

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Speaker 7: and that's why they get paid more. Okay, ask question

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Speaker 7: is more important? Let me ask you a question you

982
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Speaker 7: had to get rid of. No, okay, let me ask

983
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Speaker 7: you a question you had to get rid of one guy,

984
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Speaker 7: Veach or Andy Reid.

985
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Speaker 12: I get rid of Andy Reid. Forget said that.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let me ask you another one, Jim Harbor or

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Speaker 7: whoever the gym it's at the Los Angeles Chargers is would.

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Speaker 12: You get rid of would you get rid of my whole?

989
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Speaker 12: Or Andy Reid? I mean we can go that one too.

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Speaker 12: I mean.

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Speaker 7: No, first of all, the.

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Speaker 8: Guy who found Mahomes, because the guy who found Mahomes

993
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Speaker 8: is Brett Beach.

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Speaker 7: Well you don't think Andy Reid had anything to do

995
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Speaker 7: with the picking of uh Mahomes. Come on, Pete, you

996
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Speaker 7: know better.

997
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Speaker 12: Listen, go back and listen to all the stories Brett Beach.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying I say that, but you're telling me

999
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Speaker 7: they they picked a quarterback without Andy Reid signing off

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Speaker 7: on it. Come on, Pete, come on, you don't get

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Speaker 7: a pull any Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 9: But so so.

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Speaker 12: But you're saying that the coach is more important than

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Speaker 12: the talent.

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Speaker 7: No, I didn't say that. First of all, if you

1006
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Speaker 7: do this right, the coaching staff is a part of

1007
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Speaker 7: the evaluation and the picking of the players.

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Speaker 12: But well that's not always.

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Speaker 7: That's how it works at most organizations. I shouldn't say

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Speaker 7: most a lot. So let me let's go through this.

1011
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Speaker 7: Let's go through the playoff teams. So you don't think

1012
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Speaker 7: that Dan Campbell has any say and who they pick?

1013
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Speaker 7: You think as your question Brad Holmes just goes to

1014
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Speaker 7: behind a curtain and just picks, like, Okay, Dan, this

1015
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Speaker 7: is who you get. I mean, okay, let go to

1016
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Speaker 7: another one to we know Andy Reid has input. I'm

1017
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Speaker 7: not evenna go there. You don't think Jim Harball has

1018
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Speaker 7: a saying who they picking Los Angeles?

1019
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 12: Who had the input when you were playing?

1020
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Speaker 7: Well, Tom was everything. He was both right so so

1021
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Speaker 7: but he would But that's a different model, Pete. He

1022
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Speaker 7: was the GM and head coach, and the and the

1023
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Speaker 7: cook and the chief marketing officer and the ways.

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Speaker 8: What's more important than to you as a coach or

1025
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Speaker 8: the general matter of that team.

1026
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Speaker 7: So the coach, he's the head coach. As a coach,

1027
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Speaker 7: he set the culture of the standard of what we did,

1028
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Speaker 7: how we did it.

1029
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Speaker 8: You can set a standard with with twenty two jps

1030
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Speaker 8: and ate winning.

1031
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Speaker 7: Pete, You're missing the bigger point.

1032
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Speaker 14: Wat you're acting like you're acting like these GMS pick

1033
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Speaker 14: guys in a vacuum with no input from the coaching staff.

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Speaker 8: I'm saying, but ultimately, the GM, if he's the person

1035
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Speaker 8: in the head of the department, he has a decision making.

1036
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Speaker 7: I get that. But you're asking me like Andy Reid

1037
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Speaker 7: or Brett Reach. I'll take Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh or

1038
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Speaker 7: whoever the head the GM at the Chargers is. I'll

1039
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Speaker 7: take Jim Harbaugh. You know, I can go down the list.

1040
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Speaker 12: But that's not what That's not what your question.

1041
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that question which is more important?

1042
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Speaker 8: Which which is ultimately more important for winning talent?

1043
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Speaker 7: No, I didn't say talent. That's not what I said.

1044
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Speaker 7: You're acting like the GM picks the talent all by themselves.

1045
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Speaker 12: He does, he does, he makes a decisions.

1046
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Speaker 2: Yeah, who has the veto power? Is what?

1047
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Speaker 3: Remember when that was the question, like they asked Tom

1048
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Speaker 3: Coffin or Askedhot Gone and Tom wouldn't answer it, and

1049
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Speaker 3: Shot had to be asked again.

1050
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Speaker 2: He's like, well, Tom, so who would be that?

1051
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Speaker 7: I don't actually know. To Pete's point, this is fair,

1052
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Speaker 7: I actually don't know who had final say between Doug

1053
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Speaker 7: and and Trent. I don't know that, Trent. Did you

1054
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Speaker 7: don't know that, Pete, Trent did you don't know that.

1055
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Speaker 7: You're saying that you don't know that?

1056
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Speaker 2: Why say that?

1057
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Speaker 7: Okay, tell me what that's a better question, thank.

1058
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Speaker 8: You, JP the general because he's a general manager, you

1059
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Speaker 8: could look at who the players he picked and figure

1060
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Speaker 8: out who picked them.

1061
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Speaker 7: So we asked you a question, Well, if that's the case,

1062
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Speaker 7: if if our coaching staff, because I don't know this,

1063
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Speaker 7: if our coaching staff had no say and Doug had

1064
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Speaker 7: no say, okay, yes you are if they were not

1065
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Speaker 7: involved in the process, and did they in their opinion

1066
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Speaker 7: did not matter? Was not uh included in the you know,

1067
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Speaker 7: the weight waiting of who we pick, then that's a

1068
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Speaker 7: problem and that's a change, and like that's not okay.

1069
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Speaker 7: I would disagree with that.

1070
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Speaker 12: I would agree with you.

1071
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Speaker 7: I would tell right like Tuesday, like like that doesn't

1072
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Speaker 7: make sense to me, but.

1073
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Speaker 8: Just like the player personnel directly, but you don't but

1074
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Speaker 8: you don't But he ain't making a decision.

1075
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Speaker 7: But you don't know that, Pete, is my point. You

1076
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Speaker 7: don't know how much input Doug or his staff had.

1077
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Speaker 7: I don't either.

1078
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Speaker 12: I don't know I don't. I really am having a

1079
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Speaker 12: hard time bearing you out today.

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Speaker 7: I'm not defending Trent here, Pete. I'm just saying I'm

1081
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Speaker 7: going back to the question. It was a simple question.

1082
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Speaker 7: What is more important the head coach or the GM?

1083
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Speaker 12: Well, what's more important is talent than the.

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Speaker 7: Head That's not the question, Pete, is.

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Speaker 12: A question the GM brings the talent in.

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Speaker 7: Okay, let me ask you. Okay, let's go. I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: give it a real Let's go outside the Jaguars, Los Ange,

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Speaker 7: those Chargers. Are they a better team with Jim Horbrough

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Speaker 7: as their head coach then they whoever.

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Speaker 2: Joe horis the way?

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Speaker 7: Okay? Are they a better head coach this year? Are

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Speaker 7: they improved over last year with Jim Harball as their coach?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Okay, What additions did they make on talent wise? Lad McConkie,

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Speaker 7: Oh well, okay, before we know the Ladd mcconfie.

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Speaker 9: They got rid of a all Pro receiver who can

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Speaker 9: run anymore?

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Speaker 7: Okay, they got They also got rid of a Pro

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Speaker 7: Bowl or borderline Pro Bowl receiver in Mike Williams. They

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Speaker 7: also okay, I'm just I'm just stating they also got.

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Speaker 12: Rid of a second year player who's gotten better.

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Speaker 9: Hold on John.

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Speaker 7: They also got rid of Austin Eckler. They're leading back.

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Speaker 12: I ended just another back. J Dobbins sat, Okay, my quite.

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Speaker 7: So are they better because they got more talent or

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Speaker 7: they better because Jim Harball came in and changed the

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Speaker 7: culture as the head coach.

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Speaker 12: Well, they're also better because Justin Herbert is healthy. He

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Speaker 12: wasn't healthy last year.

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Speaker 7: Pete, you were being disingenuous right now.

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Speaker 12: Rules talent rules the rust. It always will.

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying that you're missing my point. I'm hoping

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Speaker 7: that the head coach has like if and I'm literally saying,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but if I find if I were

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Speaker 7: to find out like the head coach the Doug Peterson

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Speaker 7: his staff had no say and who they were picking

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Speaker 7: and the players that came here, that would be a

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Speaker 7: problem to me, Like that makes no sense.

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Speaker 8: But no saying what like because Coughlin used to have

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Speaker 8: an input from everybody and he'd have the final say

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Speaker 8: and make.

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Speaker 12: The final decision. Okay, So so input is fun.

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Speaker 8: Look, if I'm the general matter to that team, I

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Speaker 8: want every scout, every personnel guy to give me their input.

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Speaker 12: And not be a yes man. I want every coach

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Speaker 12: who's doing the work on their players to give me

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Speaker 12: the input and not be a yes man. And if

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Speaker 12: you think you like a player, tell me I'm going

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Speaker 12: back and doing more work on them. Ultimately I'm making

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Speaker 12: the final decision.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I agree. I agree with that. I guess

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Speaker 7: it would be interesting, Pete, I don't know the answer

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Speaker 7: to this is of the fifty three guys on the

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Speaker 7: roster of this football team, how many of those players

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Speaker 7: of the whoever were acquired over the last three years

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Speaker 7: when Doug Peterson and Trent worked together. What percentage of

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Speaker 7: those players that came in over that three year period

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Speaker 7: or left? Did Doug Peterson and his staff just violently

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Speaker 7: like we're against and Trent just picked them? Anyways? Oh no,

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Speaker 7: I don't either. It'd be an interesting question, my I

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Speaker 7: guess in a Funk organization that number should be as

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Speaker 7: close to zero as possible.

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Speaker 12: Well, that's never the case, and that's why you have

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Speaker 12: Pete listen.

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Speaker 7: I said as close to zero as possible, because if

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Speaker 7: you're doing it, ultimately someone has to make the call.

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Speaker 7: I agree with you, Pete. There, but good leadership is

1148
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Speaker 7: finding and figuring out how to get to the right

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Speaker 7: answer together because both of you are in it together,

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Speaker 7: and it just doesn't work if you go pick a

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Speaker 7: guy that the player that the head that the coaching

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Speaker 7: staff doesn't want, or that or the coaching staff gets

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Speaker 7: a guy that the scouting department all the time, I Pete,

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Speaker 7: you and I've talked about this. This is where you

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Speaker 7: and I agree. My question is and this is and

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Speaker 7: and I'm assuming these are the questions that Sean has

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Speaker 7: asked because as you make these decisions, you'd want this

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Speaker 7: information so you could make an informed decision. I don't

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Speaker 7: have it. Is my point, Pete, is it'd be interesting,

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Speaker 7: like because it goes to your point, Pete, this is

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Speaker 7: actually would solve are who's more important? Because if that's

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Speaker 7: wildly different, you can't answer the question I'm asking what's

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Speaker 7: more important? The GM where the head coach because they're

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Speaker 7: not on the same page. My point is, my assumption

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Speaker 7: in that question is like there's there's I'm not saying

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Speaker 7: one hundred percent of alignment, because to Pete's point, there's

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Speaker 7: never is. There's always gonna be differences, but it's it's

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Speaker 7: ninety five and at that point then it's all about

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Speaker 7: that head coach. That head coach is the most important

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Speaker 7: thing in the building.

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Speaker 12: Well, here's the other part of them. You're you're, you're,

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Speaker 12: you're right about coach in the GM working together. And

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Speaker 12: yet every in a lie, not everyone, but in many of.

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Speaker 8: These buildings, they start out working together, and then the

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Speaker 8: praying start.

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Speaker 12: Either you have successes get in the way. It's true

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Speaker 12: the GM drafts a player.

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Speaker 8: And the coach doesn't develop him, and he blames him,

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Speaker 8: and then the coaches starts saying you're not getting the talent.

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Speaker 12: All of a sudden, you have ripped inside the building. Okay,

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Speaker 12: it happens all the time.

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Speaker 8: In this sleep. So that's the reason I'm sitting here

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Speaker 8: making this case that if that happens, and it happens

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Speaker 8: where guys come in together, why not start over again

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Speaker 8: so you can.

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Speaker 12: Avoid that.

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Speaker 7: Back in a moment. That's that's a fair question. See,

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Speaker 7: that's a good I mean, we should let's dig into

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Speaker 7: that when we come back, because that's a I want

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Speaker 7: to unpack that more and it'd be curious to understand,

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Speaker 7: and we I guess we'll never know. I'm sure Sean

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Speaker 7: looked into this. How did Trent and Doug work together

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Speaker 7: because I had to go into weighing the decision to

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Speaker 7: let one go and not both, because he felt like

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Speaker 7: Trent was doing a good enough job as far as

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Speaker 7: the procurement side of the business, and that really was

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Speaker 7: the coaching side, right, I mean, I mean, that's what

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Speaker 7: that's what the decision sounds like.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that when we come back. We've got fanatics,

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Speaker 3: fan questions. A little later, we got to go around

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Speaker 3: the league. We gotta say goodbye for the seat as well.

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Speaker 3: That's all ahead and is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by

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Speaker 3: mister Chubby's Wings.

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Speaker 15: Obviously, it's unfortunate because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 15: we all had a hand and you know, this season

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Speaker 15: and just how the way things have shaken out. I

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Speaker 15: have a ton of respect for Doug. He's maybe a

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Speaker 15: better football player, a better man, and you know, I

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Speaker 15: think he's one of the better coaches who have coached

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Speaker 15: in this league. And it's just unfortunate the way that

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Speaker 15: things went. But obviously the organization has to make a

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Speaker 15: decision that they feel his best going forward.

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Speaker 3: It's Christian Kirk, Jaguars wide receiver, in the locker room

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Speaker 3: earlier today, and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, our

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Speaker 3: number two presented by Mister Chubby's Wings J. P. Shadwick

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Speaker 3: with Tony Bisselli from Hyundai Studios inside the Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 3: Pete Prisco is that in South Florida, we've got fanatics,

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Speaker 3: fan questions coming up, but a lot on the plate today.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, I gotta ask you this, did

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Speaker 12: the quarterback that talk today.

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Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence was not in the locker room during media time.

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Speaker 3: I'll say that I don't know if he was in

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Speaker 3: the building or what.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 7: They just very interesting, Pete. It's not what you think

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Speaker 7: he was not. And I'm not going to get into why.

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Speaker 7: It's no one's business, but it's not. There's no there's

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Speaker 7: no scandalous story behind it, Pete. Is my point, trust me.

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Speaker 7: I'm just telling you, well.

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Speaker 12: You must have thought it. Then if you found out why.

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Speaker 7: No, I didn't even know. He didn't speak until he

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Speaker 7: was told told me why he didn't. So there's nothing scandalous, nothing,

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Speaker 7: there's no story, there is my point.

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Speaker 12: Anybody talk to Doug.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe, but I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know the answer to that.

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Speaker 7: So what we we ended the last segment. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think I think Pete one of the things. And

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Speaker 7: I get, by the way, your position and it's the

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 7: position of our fans that are not happy that there

1242
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 7: was not a complete cleaning of the house. I get it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm getting just attacked right now from all sides,

1244
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 7: from all sides, like I like, I am like attacked

1245
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 7: because I'm not I am not leading with torches and pitchforks.

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Speaker 7: The execution of Trembulk. I mean they, I mean, they

1247
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 7: people want him gone. They called they called you a turncoat,

1248
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Speaker 7: they called me ant, I mean, that's like as bad

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Speaker 7: as it comes. Ieted me and said, I got I

1250
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 7: got all kinds of things in my ex feed over

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Speaker 7: the last hour and a half peat since we've had

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Speaker 7: the show. And I get it understood. I understand there's

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Speaker 7: blood in the water. My point is the evaluation was done,

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Speaker 7: and you can disagree with it, but the evaluation done

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Speaker 7: by Sean felt like the area that need to be

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Speaker 7: addressed immediately was the head coach. And I and I fine,

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Speaker 7: and I'm not saying that what Trent has done is

1258
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 7: not is above criticism over the last three plus years

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Speaker 7: he's been here. I'm not saying that at all. I

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Speaker 7: mean it's fair to be critical. We have not won

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Speaker 7: enough games and because of that, at the end of

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Speaker 7: the day, that's what we're all judged by in this business, players,

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Speaker 7: coaches and GMS, front office people. Owners, that's what we're

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Speaker 7: judged by. And when you don't hit the standard, there's

1265
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Speaker 7: demand from the fan base of changing. My only point

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Speaker 7: is is if you look at it, you have an owner.

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Speaker 7: While you might not be fully satisfied because the GM

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Speaker 7: is still here made a decision that a lot of

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Speaker 7: other teams in similar situations did not and stood pat

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Speaker 7: on their head coach. And it's not like Doug Peterson

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Speaker 7: does not have success and has not done good things,

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Speaker 7: but Sean felt like it was not good enough. And

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Speaker 7: I think making these blanket and this is why I

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Speaker 7: had to ask the conversation to Pete. What's more important

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Speaker 7: the head coach with the GM I and I and

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Speaker 7: Pete and I agree, by the way, talent is, it's

1277
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Speaker 7: Jimmy's and Joe's at the end of the day, and

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Speaker 7: who needs be also included in this accountability And if

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Speaker 7: you're a fan, and I've been one of these guys.

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Speaker 7: It's the players. You should hold them accountable too. They

1281
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Speaker 7: didn't play good enough. They did not.

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Speaker 12: But well they didn't do anything good enough.

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Speaker 7: That's my point. Pete and and I and so we

1284
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 7: got it has to be better across the board. And

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Speaker 7: if you listen to Sean's press conference, he's very clear

1286
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Speaker 7: it needs to get better. It's not good enough right now.

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Speaker 7: I believe the decision to move into a new head

1288
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 7: coach direction is going to solve the problem. I'm comfortable that. However,

1289
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Speaker 7: if someone brings a better decision or better solution or

1290
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 7: structure or whatever, I'm wide open because I just want

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Speaker 7: to win. I mean, what else do you want from

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Speaker 7: an owner?

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Speaker 16: Well, I'm gonna started anew what you could have started

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Speaker 16: a new Let's go back to what we were saying

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Speaker 16: before the before the break, about the egos and the

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Speaker 16: friction and the relationships and the GM.

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Speaker 12: And the coach and the front office being blamed, blaming

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Speaker 12: the personnel.

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Speaker 8: Staff, blaming the coaches for not developing the coaches, blaming

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Speaker 8: the personnel staff or not getting them players.

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Speaker 12: That goes on in every single building. So all I'm

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Speaker 12: saying is Tony.

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Speaker 8: When you're starting anew from a if you're starting as

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Speaker 8: a new head coach and you're going into a building

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Speaker 8: and you're being forced to work with somebody who you're

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Speaker 8: not necessarily align with or comfortable with or even know

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Speaker 8: very well, and the whole thing up even more.

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Speaker 7: To have problems, not always people, not always.

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Speaker 8: We're just gonna come in what because because every guy

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Speaker 8: that's ever left that's worked with Trent Falkey has gone out.

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Speaker 12: Joe it was wonderful.

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Speaker 8: Let's see Jim Kelly nor Ball, No Jim Tom Sulla,

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Speaker 8: no Urban Meyer.

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Speaker 7: No, can we know? Can we not include Meyer? I mean,

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Speaker 7: Trent Palky did not stay in Cincinnati, and and and but.

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Speaker 9: I know, but I know.

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Speaker 7: I'm just telling you, like, like set aside. Urban, I

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Speaker 7: will let you go with the rest. Urban Meyer stayed

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Speaker 7: behind after Thursday night football to hang out and have

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Speaker 7: his hands wander to areas of a female that is

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Speaker 7: not his wife. You can't put that on Trent Bulky.

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Speaker 7: That is not No. I've been as critical as anybody

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Speaker 7: of Trent of good, bad and different, and I have

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Speaker 7: a real Himurban Meyer. P that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: Let's let's take the let's take the little escapade at

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Speaker 8: the bar out of the equation.

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Speaker 12: He wasn't any good to begin with, was he?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but you're making the assumption that was Trent's higher.

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Speaker 2: Let's steakhouse is closed.

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Speaker 7: By the way, he was part of it, Pete, I

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Speaker 7: think you're making assumptions. I just don't know if it's.

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Speaker 12: True he was part of it. And so okay, so

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Speaker 12: let's just say every guy that's ever worked with him

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Speaker 12: has had a problem with him, the coaches, right, that's

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Speaker 12: the perception, right of course.

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Speaker 8: So why why would you subject a new coach and

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Speaker 8: a new guy that you're trying to change the culture

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Speaker 8: and like you talk about so having somebody left that

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Speaker 8: was part of the bad culture, than are you?

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Speaker 5: Are you?

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Speaker 7: Did you like? His point is if just making sure

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Speaker 7: he's done, because I couldn't tell if his internet went

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Speaker 7: out again or if he's done talking.

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Speaker 9: Oh, I was done.

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Speaker 7: I was done.

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Speaker 12: He didn't want to answer the question.

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Speaker 9: No, I did not know. That's not at all.

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Speaker 7: I thought you froze.

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Speaker 9: Literally, you know that weird.

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Speaker 7: I think that you're that dumb look on your face,

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Speaker 7: and I thought it was frozen.

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Speaker 2: If they're all in it together, then why are they

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Speaker 2: not all out of it together.

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Speaker 7: That's a fair question.

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Speaker 3: And if it's a team, hey, we're all in this

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Speaker 3: thing together, then why is one person out?

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Speaker 2: And that's a big question I think a lot of people.

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Speaker 7: Have and that's a fair question. And I don't have

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Speaker 7: a good answer for that, because I think that would

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Speaker 7: have been a good question that shot. I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I didn't I wasn't part of the decision making process.

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Speaker 7: And I get that. And and by the way, a

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Speaker 7: lot of people, not everyone, but a lot of people

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Speaker 7: in the league feel that that the GM and the

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Speaker 7: head coach of be in it together. And if you

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Speaker 7: fire one, you fire the other.

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Speaker 12: Hey. And by the way, most gentle managers don't get

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Speaker 12: three coaches.

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Speaker 7: They usually get two.

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Speaker 12: Or or what next? Including two first overall?

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Speaker 7: But but just fair and pe that brings up a

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01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 7: fair point, and it's a fair question, but it's not

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Speaker 7: doesn't happen like that everywhere. Like Howie Roseman up in

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Speaker 7: Philly has been the head coach, been the GM for

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Speaker 7: a lot of head coaches. Three off the top of

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Speaker 7: my head I can think of, and maybe it's more

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Speaker 7: how many is it? How he been the GM for

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Speaker 7: in Philly Pete, Chip uh Nick Sirianni, Doug Peterson, anyone

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Speaker 7: else who was before Chip? Was he the head coach

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Speaker 7: with Howie the GM before Chip.

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Speaker 12: I think, so I do too. I gotta look at it.

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Speaker 12: But okay, but he won't he's one Pete.

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Speaker 7: I get that. No, no, no, Well, and I think

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Speaker 7: the reason that Trent got so much leeway in San

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Speaker 7: Francisco because with Jim Harborough he went to three NFC

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Speaker 7: championships in the Super Bowl, so he won there.

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Speaker 8: But if he had just left it alone, if they

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Speaker 8: had just stayed together, they would have they would have

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Speaker 8: continued to win it probably would have won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 12: But of course they had to get they had to

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Speaker 12: start going at each other. I mean, that's the problem.

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Speaker 7: I get that, but I'm speaking to the point of

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Speaker 7: why is he got more? I think you make a

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Speaker 7: fair point. Is I'm actually agreeing with you because most

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Speaker 7: of the time you don't get that many head coaches.

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Speaker 12: Jim Harball is not the easiest guy in the world

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Speaker 12: to work with either.

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Speaker 7: He's different, he's a but by the way, he's a

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Speaker 7: dang good head coach. Bo j That's another one they

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Speaker 7: did today.

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Speaker 12: They firmly pointed the finger. Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 7: Can't I cannot argue that, Pete. I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 12: They absolved the general manager.

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Speaker 7: I disagree with that. I did not hear him job.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like a glowing endorsement.

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Speaker 5: Zoom.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right, Pete. I don't think that was a

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01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 7: glowing endorsement. Like, hey, like I'm happy with everything going on.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he literally said in the press conference at

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Speaker 7: the end, if someone has like like I'm wide open,

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Speaker 7: I want to win. I mean, Pete, you know, I

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Speaker 7: mean you you've brought that up as well. Was that

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Speaker 7: not said?

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Speaker 12: It was said? It was, But he also said he

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 12: might be bringing somebody above.

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Speaker 7: Right, He also said that too, So like, I guess

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 7: my bigger point is, let's all take a deep breath,

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01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 7: like there's a lot of runway still in front of us,

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 7: a lot of road, a lot of road to travel,

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01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 7: and so let's get down the road a little bit

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01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 7: for or to see how this thing plays out.

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Speaker 8: We're, you know, the road that Benn travel has been

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 8: driven off the cliff by the guy who's still making

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Speaker 8: a decision.

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Speaker 12: Right over the side.

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Speaker 7: Well, wait a second, what guy.

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Speaker 12: Football decisions? Right now as we speak, who's making the

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Speaker 12: football decisions.

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01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 7: Well, head coach picking the head coach of Shot Khan,

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 7: not Trent.

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01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 8: No, who's making the football decisions for the organization as

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01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 8: we speak right now?

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,839
Speaker 12: Hire somebody, cut somebody who's making those decisions.

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Speaker 7: Well, it depends at the level, at some level, I

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 7: think it still goes through Shot Pete. I think Trent

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01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 7: is good Like I don't think Shot. I don't think

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Speaker 7: Trent is going to make it. I don't think let's

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 7: use an example, I don't think Trent has the ability

1439
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 7: to go trade Josh heinz Allen for somebody else or

1440
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 7: picks or anything else without Shot signing off on it.

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 8: Of course not but but but again, he's the one

1442
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 8: who's going to make that decision to bring it.

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Speaker 12: To him, is he not?

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Speaker 2: Today?

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 12: Yes see.

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Speaker 8: And here's something I'm gonna say right now, And I

1448
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 8: said this all season long. When Seod came out and

1449
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Speaker 8: made the comment about the best team ever put together

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Speaker 8: in Jaguars history, whether he said that in history or

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Speaker 8: since he's been here, that information came from the general manager.

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Speaker 12: And when it comes from the general manager, who's ultimately

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01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 12: behind and who's.

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Speaker 8: Ultimately responsible doesn't work well, it played out exactly that way.

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Speaker 12: It didn't work.

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01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 8: And who got fired not the guy who had the

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01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 8: talented roster, the best in the history of mankind. They

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Speaker 8: got fired was the coach and not the general manager.

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Speaker 7: You're right about that, and you and I have talked

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Speaker 7: at length on the show. We both disagree with the comment,

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Speaker 7: whether it's looking at the history of the Jaguars or

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Speaker 7: even just in SHOT's been the owner. I don't think

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Speaker 7: I said this before going into the season. I didn't

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Speaker 7: think this was the most talented roster.

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Speaker 12: Well where did jod get that from?

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Speaker 7: I don't again, Pete. The only the only thing I

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Speaker 7: claimed it wasn't him I know is Doug didn't tell.

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Speaker 8: Him that because because because no coach is ever going

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Speaker 8: to put himself with the bullseye.

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Speaker 12: We got the most talented team we've ever had. You

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Speaker 12: win four games out the door.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it was Trent or maybe it

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Speaker 7: was somebody on Trend's team. I don't know who said it. Pete.

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Speaker 7: I really don't let's come back.

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Speaker 8: Because I got a plot of land in the middle

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Speaker 8: of the ever Glady, you might be interested in buying

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Speaker 8: the same things.

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Speaker 12: Come on.

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 9: You know who said it. I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's waterfront property though.

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01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 7: Pete, because a lot of around a good view.

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01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 2: Snakes close to wildlife.

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Speaker 3: Back in a moment, Fanatics fan questions when we return,

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Speaker 17: It's definitely something that me personally, I don't want to

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01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 17: hear that thing. He's a great coach. He's not some

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 17: great things at his organization, and he's a great guy,

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 17: great coach. Like I said, I won't wish that on anyone,

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01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 17: but you know his life. We all faced with obstacles

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01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 17: in life and we just got to keep going.

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Speaker 3: Trayvon Walker in the locker room today his reaction to

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson firing earlier.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: we put the catcall out earlier on Acts. Here's the

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Speaker 3: best we've come up with at coach K Sowers. Do

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01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 3: you think Brian Thomas Junior saved Balky's job?

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01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 7: I do not.

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01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 9: No, I do not, So he did not.

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01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 12: But you could go back and say this guy to

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01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 12: this guy, have gotten a fired and you don't do that.

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Speaker 9: So no, did not save it? Here can I?

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01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 7: And this isn't just a Trent issue or about Trent.

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01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 7: This is overall anyway like I would love and I

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Speaker 7: don't know the answered this. Where do you think Brian

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Speaker 7: Thomas Jr. Was on their board as far as receivers?

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Speaker 2: Mhm? Was he their top guy? Or was there's no

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Speaker 2: chance Neighbors above him or whoever?

1513
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah it was.

1514
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 12: It was probably like everybody else in the league. They

1515
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 12: probably had Harrison and Neighbors.

1516
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 7: He was probably fourth.

1517
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 12: A doonsday was ahead of them, I mean most likely.

1518
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 7: I mean okay, but let's say they'll never admit that

1519
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 7: they won't. Okay, let's guy. Let's say they had him

1520
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 7: really high and you knew he was going to be

1521
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 7: this good. Then would your risk trading down three times?

1522
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 9: Right?

1523
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 12: No, got all those extra picks for next year?

1524
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 7: Okay, let me go back one more, let me go,

1525
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 7: did you hit new GM will use what they bring him.

1526
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 7: Let me go back one more thing. If you knew,

1527
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 7: like here's their thing, we would have never drafted Brian

1528
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 7: Thomas Jr. If Calvin Ridley at the twenty third hour

1529
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 7: didn't take a deal from the Titans because he was

1530
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 7: coming signing here.

1531
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 12: And yet you just sit there and defend the hell

1532
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 12: out of the decision to keep the guys.

1533
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 7: I'm not I'm just saying this is the big My

1534
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 7: whole point is, this isn't about Trent, It's the whole league.

1535
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 7: Is no pete, it's not. I'm making the case that

1536
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 7: you have to look at the whole thing from the

1537
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 7: whole league. Sometimes teams luck into I'll give you another

1538
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 7: example of Baltimore Ravens, who's one of the best organizations.

1539
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 7: Ozzy Smith one of the best gms. He's a shortstop

1540
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 7: short for the Cardinals. Ozzie Newsom, one of the great

1541
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,559
Speaker 7: gms in the history of this league. John Harball, great

1542
01:20:54,640 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 7: head coach, the new GM under Er Costa other really

1543
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 7: good was groomed under Ozzie. Great front office, great organization.

1544
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 7: I love how they do it. They have an identity,

1545
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 7: know who they are. They draft people they drafted so

1546
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 7: you think they knew Lamar Jackson was gonna be Lamar

1547
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 7: Jackson drafting thirty first, thirty second. No, if they did,

1548
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 7: they would have traded up and figured out. Now, I'll

1549
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 7: give the Chiefs credit because they had conviction that Pat

1550
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 7: Mahomes was gonna be Pat Mahomes, and they traded to

1551
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 7: go get them. The Ravens were fortunate. Now what they

1552
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 7: once they got him, what they did a great job

1553
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 7: of doing is building a system that helped him develop

1554
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 7: and took advantage of his skills early. My point is,

1555
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 7: do you think Bill Belichick that Tom Brady knew Tom

1556
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 7: Brady was gonna be the greatest quarterback ever?

1557
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 12: They got lucky.

1558
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 9: They got lucky.

1559
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 7: He was a sixth rounder. Sometimes you get lucky. Sometimes

1560
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 7: the ball.

1561
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 2: Bounces your way.

1562
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 7: That's all I'm saying, Pete.

1563
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, but you also go spend a boatload of money

1564
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 8: in a bunch of free agents that they'll I'm not.

1565
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 7: I'm not talking about this year, Pete. I'm I wasn't

1566
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:03,879
Speaker 7: even talking about.

1567
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 12: Talking in general. I'm talking about this team.

1568
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 9: This team. I'm not.

1569
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 7: I was just talking about in general. Like I always

1570
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 7: loved that these fans and US talking heads make these

1571
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 7: comments like, oh, did Brian Thomas saves job? Like, hold on,

1572
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 7: I think we got a little bit fortunate.

1573
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,799
Speaker 2: Little detailed.

1574
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,080
Speaker 3: Didn't the Ravens trade back up to thirty second to

1575
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: get that last pick in twenty eighteen?

1576
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 12: I think they did, Pete, didn't somebody pass on on

1577
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 12: Mr Jackson?

1578
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 7: Everybody did that. Everyone did a certain.

1579
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 12: Team when there were a certain team that passed on

1580
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 12: them right before that.

1581
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of picks before got a big defensive tackle.

1582
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 7: My point is, I don't know if they traded back

1583
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 7: up in or not. I think they did.

1584
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it now.

1585
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,600
Speaker 7: My point is the pointment if they thought he was

1586
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 7: going to be a three time MVP, they would have

1587
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 7: got up to five. Everyone would have. That's my my

1588
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 7: only point.

1589
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 12: I mean you yeah, no, you're right, You're right. You

1590
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 12: get lucky in the draft. Something you can do all

1591
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 12: the evaluation.

1592
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 7: That's my old boy, Pete. Like free agency is different

1593
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 7: because you have a body of work the drafts sometimes,

1594
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 7: and Pete you know this as well as anybody, because

1595
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 7: you crap out all the time in the drafts as

1596
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 7: I do, of making like these statements.

1597
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 12: Everybody craps out every crap out everyone does.

1598
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 7: It's it's it's it's rolling the dice.

1599
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 3: By the way I did the Ravens game Saturday, I'm

1600
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: looking at their offensive line, like six of the eight

1601
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 3: guys that were on the roster or all drafted.

1602
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a philosophy. That's why I loved him. They

1603
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 7: do it the right way. If I was gonna be

1604
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 7: critical about anything, it's like, why haven't we developed offensive

1605
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 7: linemen here? Now? Am I just pointing a finger at Trent. No,

1606
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 7: that's picking and developing, that's coaching and scouting. That's both.

1607
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 7: We have not done a good enough job there.

1608
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Next question on x Fanatics fan questions love Tony, but

1609
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: he's a mouthpiece for the Jags. Pete is the only

1610
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 3: voice of reason. My question is what has Trent Balky

1611
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 3: accomplished that has made the team better?

1612
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 7: How did I go to over turncoat mouthpiece Pete. Pete's

1613
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 7: making accusations. I'm getting paid off today.

1614
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 12: I got a bonus. They're taking they're taking, you're taking

1615
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 12: you down. I'm not a ceremony. It's coming down.

1616
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 7: If you don't talk, well, I just don't say that

1617
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,679
Speaker 7: I've got a bonus, because then my wife is gonna

1618
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 7: be like, where's the money you got paid for all this?

1619
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 7: Pete said, you got paid. I ain't get paid anything.

1620
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 12: And you know what, she'd probably rather have the rig

1621
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 12: of honor thing come down than not get the bonus.

1622
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 7: True. True, I don't appreciate the mouth like, you know what,

1623
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 7: Let me say this, the question is yeah, I'll let

1624
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 7: Pete answer it to be clear to everyone who's saying

1625
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 7: I'm a turncoat mouthpiece or anything else. Just to be clear, No,

1626
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 7: I know I'm I'm going to lean in and towards

1627
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 7: defending this organization. And if you haven't figured that out yet,

1628
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 7: then you're not very smart. I love this place. I

1629
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 7: work for this place. I believe in this place, and

1630
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 7: I want this place to be great. I think seot Cohn,

1631
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 7: I don't agree with everything, like has he got everything right? No,

1632
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 7: but I think he's one hell of an owner and

1633
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 7: I think we're very fortunate to have him as an owner.

1634
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:19,160
Speaker 12: And I would agree with that.

1635
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 7: So like, if you want to call me a job,

1636
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 7: by the way, this is the best job in the NFL,

1637
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 7: and I will say that I think it's still the

1638
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 7: best job with Trent Bulk is the gym and I've

1639
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 7: disagreed with trendon times I've agreed with him. I mean,

1640
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 7: nobody's perfect, but if you like, just so you know,

1641
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 7: if you're gonna listen to the show, and so you

1642
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 7: can stop texting or tweeting or exing or posting stupid stuff.

1643
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 7: It's not me being a turncoat. I'm not getting paid extra.

1644
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 7: I work for this organization. I love this organization, and

1645
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 7: when it comes that the chips are on the table,

1646
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 7: I'm going to bat for this organization because I believe

1647
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,440
Speaker 7: in it and I believe we will win a championship

1648
01:25:58,520 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 7: here and I'm going to be a part of it

1649
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 7: when it happened.

1650
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 12: So and you know me, I'm gonna tell it like

1651
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 12: it is, and I'm telling it like it is.

1652
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 7: But Pete, I'm telling, and Pete, I love it. I'm

1653
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 7: telling how I'm telling you, and I could be wrong

1654
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 7: and I could have two colored glasses on, no doubt

1655
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 7: about it. I've been called the sunshine pumper. I've been

1656
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 7: called all kinds of things in this We.

1657
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: Left that one out to that.

1658
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just right.

1659
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: That's for the morning I usually get.

1660
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 12: I usually get that one too.

1661
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you give it to you.

1662
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: Hey, I got a few more questions. You're gonna have

1663
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 2: been pretty.

1664
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,080
Speaker 7: Cool, but answer Peter Ye, yeah.

1665
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: Question, what is Trent Balky accomplished that has made the

1666
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: team better?

1667
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 12: Look, he's he's done some good things. Brian Thomas is

1668
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 12: one of them.

1669
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 7: There are Walker Walker Little, the Walker Little deal. Look

1670
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 7: that turned out to be a dang good deal based

1671
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 7: on the market.

1672
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 12: We'll see how he plays for full season. Don't you

1673
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 12: can't just say three games. It's a great deal.

1674
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 7: He's getting paid. He's getting paid thirteen million dollars year,

1675
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 7: a thirteen million dollars starting to tackle.

1676
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 12: Okay, what if he goes into he's a turnstile that.

1677
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 7: He's not gonna be that give me a break, Pete?

1678
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 3: All right, next question at way too fun shway, Please

1679
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 3: ask Pete to unblock me.

1680
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 2: It's been ten years.

1681
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 12: What did he do?

1682
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 7: What did he do?

1683
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 12: Look, I'll find him. I'll find out why I blocked

1684
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 12: me out. Probably unblocked.

1685
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 7: Wow, unblocking Pete. Don't be such a curmudget it's you

1686
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 7: trigger finger, Pete. Pete will block you in a second.

1687
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, I love watching Pete.

1688
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 8: I'm not listening to your garbage unless you want to

1689
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 8: talk football and give me crap about football.

1690
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:31,879
Speaker 12: But if you're gonna get nasty, you're going.

1691
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 7: I love it. Next question ask you, peach, I should

1692
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 7: I should I block a bunch of people call me

1693
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,160
Speaker 7: turncoat and everything else?

1694
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,560
Speaker 12: Not unless the truth hurts.

1695
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 7: Wow sensitive or you would I guarantee you Pete would

1696
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 7: be blocking people based on the ex post.

1697
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: I got to probably show and I will not block

1698
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 2: any of you.

1699
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 7: I love y'all to We have had.

1700
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 2: A draft and developed problem for decades. How do you

1701
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: fix that?

1702
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 7: It's a good it's a that's a that's a whole show.

1703
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 7: That's a whole show. So like we don't have time,

1704
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 7: but y and it goes back.

1705
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 12: And it goes back to what we said earlier in

1706
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 12: the year, Tony who got better?

1707
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 7: So you staff, you have to I'm gonna say this

1708
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 7: about the development. You have to be purposeful. It doesn't

1709
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 7: it doesn't happen. You have to be purposeful. You have to.

1710
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 7: You have to take advantage of the time you have

1711
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 7: under the cb A. You have to structure it. I

1712
01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 7: mean it has to be like from everything you do

1713
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 7: on the field, off the field, in the weight room,

1714
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 7: nutrition development, like you have to maximize your time, and

1715
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 7: you gotta have a like you have to be very

1716
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 7: detail oriented and planned for it. And I just don't

1717
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 7: think we've done a great jot.

1718
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 3: Other teams do it. Yes, other teams have success to

1719
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 3: developing and drafting, getting guys better.

1720
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 12: I'm just I'm just glad. I'm just glad that they're

1721
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 12: not getting rid of anybody in the cafeteria to clean house.

1722
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 12: That's all that. And by the way, I heard de Rocco.

1723
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 3: Asked that question, it was that'll do it. That's fanatics,

1724
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 3: fan questions for the day. We had plenty of submissions today.

1725
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 3: These are the ones we can air. I'm kidding.

1726
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 12: Keeping he deserves it.

1727
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tony will not block anybody.

1728
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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna. I will not. I will not block

1729
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 7: any of You can say all the bad things you

1730
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 7: want to say about me. I don't care.

1731
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 3: We'll come back in a moment and take a look

1732
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 3: at the playoff schedule. Yes, it's wild Card week coming up.

1733
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 3: We'll get to those games. Yeah, and we we have

1734
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 3: to say goodbye, Yes we do, and get We've already

1735
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 3: said goodbye to Tony. His microphone's off. This It's Jaguar's

1736
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 3: Happy Hour, presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

1737
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 18: I'm gonna move back inside, uh next year. That was

1738
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 18: That's gonna be my plan. You know, that was uh

1739
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 18: what I wanted to do, you know this season.

1740
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 7: As well too. But you know there's there's situations that

1741
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 7: you have to deal with.

1742
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:05,759
Speaker 9: You know, in this league.

1743
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 18: And yes, I'm a switch back inside, which was what

1744
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:16,519
Speaker 18: I wanted to do this season. And I'm a bet

1745
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 18: back playing to you know, elite player that I know

1746
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 18: I can be.

1747
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 3: It's Eric Armstead in the locker room during clean out

1748
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 3: day today, wants to move back inside.

1749
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

1750
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,679
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1751
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,240
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1754
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 7: Can we talk about that clip right there?

1755
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:43,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

1756
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 7: Because Pete, did you hear what Eric arms is dead?

1757
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 12: He wants to move back inside.

1758
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,560
Speaker 7: Nobody, I'm fine with what he said. He wants to

1759
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 7: play inside next year. I'm still trying to figure out

1760
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 7: he said he wanted that he wanted to play inside

1761
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:04,600
Speaker 7: this year, right like so who made them play outside,

1762
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 7: because we thought, like you and I both thought, because

1763
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 7: this is what kind of we were told it was

1764
01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 7: Trent that, but it sounds like it was the coaching

1765
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 7: staff wanted them outside well, and and.

1766
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 12: Part of the reason was because, like you said, all year,

1767
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 12: they didn't have anybody. Maybe had a necessity, but he

1768
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,599
Speaker 12: should have pushed back harder on that. I'm not a man,

1769
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 12: I'm a defensive interior.

1770
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 7: Out of like, out of everything we've talked about today,

1771
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 7: that was the most shocking comments of the weekend.

1772
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 3: Back he was saying it earlier in the locker room,

1773
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 3: and I was like, this sounds weird. So you mean

1774
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna move inside or outside? I asked him, and

1775
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 3: that was the answer.

1776
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 7: It's like, honestly, the most fascinating thing I've heard. I'm like,

1777
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 7: wait a second, I thought you wanted to be outside

1778
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 7: or Trent puts you outside, or like it sounds like

1779
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 7: the coaches were making you play outside, Like what?

1780
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1781
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,719
Speaker 12: So was the whole staff relieved their duties today?

1782
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 7: By the way, I don't know, because Pete, I don't

1783
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 7: know the official because I mean, for everyone listening, the

1784
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 7: only thing we know is that Doug was let go.

1785
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:09,560
Speaker 7: The rest of the coaches are still under contract, so

1786
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 7: it's the team's discretion to keep them under contract while

1787
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 7: they go look for a new head coach. That the

1788
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 7: new head coach can keep guys if he wants to

1789
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 7: keep them.

1790
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 12: So some of those guys have three years on their deal, so.

1791
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 7: They have two years left just in defense offensive staff.

1792
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, well some of them will have expiring contracts.

1793
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 7: Though, well I know two for sure of expiring contracts

1794
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 7: on offense, right right.

1795
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 8: So that was never a good situation to begin with.

1796
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 8: That's a whole other issue. But I just I'm curious

1797
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 8: to think, like, who would like the special teams have

1798
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 8: been great?

1799
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 2: Maybe you keep I'd keep Heath for sure.

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01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1801
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 7: My recommendation to a head coach coming in a new

1802
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 7: head coach is I would definitely interview Heath and I'd

1803
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 7: keep Heath if I was you. I think he did

1804
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 7: an outstanding jobs, a great job.

1805
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: Let's get to the wild card we can really quick.

1806
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 2: I want to say good bye.

1807
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get through the games fast. We'll just pick

1808
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 3: them real quick. Chargers at Texans, it's the four thirty

1809
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 3: Saturday game.

1810
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:09,759
Speaker 7: Chargers.

1811
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 12: Charge Chargers. They always put the AHD South at four

1812
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 12: thirty on Saturday.

1813
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 7: Must we play because we played at night against the Chargers?

1814
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we did did?

1815
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.

1816
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 3: So keep the Steelers at the Ravens at eight o'clock.

1817
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 3: Steelers stink right now?

1818
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 17: Uh.

1819
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 2: Sunday one o'clock. Broncos at the Bills.

1820
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:32,679
Speaker 7: Bills, Bills.

1821
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:36,839
Speaker 2: Sunday four thirty. The Packers at the Eagles.

1822
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 7: Who Eagles. It's a good game.

1823
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 12: I wish, I wish, I wish Watson wasn't hurting out

1824
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 12: for the year. But I'm gonna take I took the

1825
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 12: Packers before the season. I'm sticking with him. Hurts is

1826
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 12: coming off concussion that worries me, and he hasn't been

1827
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 12: cleared yet.

1828
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, this could be one of the best games of

1829
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 3: the entire first time the Commanders. Commanders at Buccaneers. I'm

1830
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:57,599
Speaker 3: going Bucks.

1831
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 12: I'm going Bucks. Last one with the full wins the.

1832
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:04,640
Speaker 3: Middle Bucks pinball football coming up in Tampa. And then

1833
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 3: Monday night the Vikings at the Rams.

1834
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 7: I think the Rams win because I think the Vikings

1835
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 7: are going to be down emotionally after a tough game

1836
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 7: against the Lions. It was physical, they lost. It was

1837
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 7: closer than the score because they didn't execute in the

1838
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 7: red zone. But I think I think a little bit

1839
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 7: of wind is out of their sales not getting that

1840
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 7: one seed. And I think the I think Sean McVay

1841
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 7: has done a great job. I think the Rams win.

1842
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 12: I think the Rams win two. And are we seeing

1843
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 12: Sam Darnell become Sam Darnald.

1844
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 7: I don't think so, Pete. I think that's just a

1845
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 7: good It was a good football team, two good teams

1846
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 7: on the road, and they said in executing the red

1847
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 7: zone and he overthrew guys in the red.

1848
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 2: Zone, that's fine.

1849
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 12: What if he doesn't play, if he doesn't play.

1850
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 7: Well this week, well then that's a different story.

1851
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: So now we're back to that. Okay, that's all. It takes.

1852
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 2: One playoff game, one playoff games all take dude, it's

1853
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: what have you done for me lately? In this league?

1854
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:55,720
Speaker 2: Especially paid, especially if you're a quarterback. Somebody will pay him, yeah,

1855
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,040
Speaker 2: I think so.

1856
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, the Vikings will pay them.

1857
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 7: But here there's the difference. If he can go take

1858
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 7: this team to the NFC title Game or let alone

1859
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:08,599
Speaker 7: or Super Bowl, he gets paid fifty. If he lose

1860
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 7: Round one, he might only get paid thirty.

1861
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,960
Speaker 8: He's going to get at least Baker Mayfield deal plus inflation,

1862
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:16,679
Speaker 8: so he's at least going to get thirty seven.

1863
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,479
Speaker 7: Okay, but my point is if he goes to the

1864
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 7: NFC Championship game or Super Bowl's getting fifty plus.

1865
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, maybe, yeah, probably.

1866
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,400
Speaker 2: All right, this is our last show. We're not having

1867
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 2: one next week.

1868
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 12: This is it.

1869
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,320
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many years we've been doing

1870
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 3: this show, but it's been a pleasure to be back

1871
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 3: with you guys again.

1872
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 7: We've done it a long time, gosh, a long time.

1873
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 8: And I mean we've been doing it so long that

1874
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 8: when Tony first started, he used to criticize the team,

1875
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 8: and now he's just the turn coke working for the team.

1876
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 2: My god, we've got full circle.

1877
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:43,719
Speaker 7: Pete.

1878
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:46,719
Speaker 12: We really have had to cut off the callers because

1879
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 12: he was mad.

1880
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 7: That's right, lean he was mean, Pete. I love you,

1881
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 7: always will even when you're wrong. Even when you're wrong, Pete,

1882
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 7: which is often on this show.

1883
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 12: What happened to our show next week?

1884
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: I thought we were doing They banged it.

1885
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 7: We're not doing. They said they don't want to hear

1886
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 7: from us, enough of us.

1887
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 2: Shut these guys down. That's what it is. Pete, what

1888
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: do you got for the playoffs? He's in the studio.

1889
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 12: I'm in studio all the whole time. And then I'll

1890
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 12: be at the super Bowl. You going to super Bowl, Tony.

1891
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll be down there during the week, Pete, I

1892
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 7: got some stuff. I'm not gonna stay for the game.

1893
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get out of there, but I'll well, I'll

1894
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 7: be there during the week. So we're going to dinner.

1895
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, just promise if I call you a turncoat, you

1896
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 12: don't hit me.

1897
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be a fight on the streets of Pete.

1898
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 7: First of all, you know I love you more than

1899
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 7: I love you like a brother. I've never hit you.

1900
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 7: And even when I know, even when you're a dummy

1901
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 7: and say stupid things, it just puts a smile.

1902
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 12: I just want to know who got into your body today.

1903
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,639
Speaker 2: I don't know he walked it. Later, I'm like, who

1904
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 2: is this guy?

1905
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 7: I don't know who it is. Pete. I'm the same

1906
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 7: every day, every day.

1907
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 12: You're not something something happened.

1908
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 7: Nothing happened, Pete. Last show, last week's show, in this show,

1909
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 7: no last week. I was evaluating what was in front

1910
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 7: of us. I've said, Pete, is this not true, but

1911
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,679
Speaker 7: I not always said I will never hire or fire

1912
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 7: anybody on the show. That's not my job and.

1913
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 12: Nobody's asking you to. But you you had a different

1914
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 12: to JP didn't have a different tones.

1915
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 7: It was a a little different tone.

1916
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 12: Heat Turn is going to be on Twitter.

1917
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 7: That's better than sports coaches.

1918
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 2: Great year, guys, Pete Risco, Tony Vasselli. I'm JP Shatterick.

1919
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 3: Thanks to our entire cruise, Joe Fortunado, David Joe, Brent Reaver,

1920
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,759
Speaker 3: all the social media people, all the behind the scenes

1921
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 3: on digital and on radio. Thanks to you for listening

1922
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 3: and contributing all year as well all our listeners out there.

1923
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Speaker 3: This is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings