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Speaker 1: Hurdles in life. There they're the things that really force

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Speaker 2: Hey, Hurdler's Emily and Bodi here bringing you Episode one

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Speaker 2: twenty nine of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I

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Speaker 2: sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from

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Speaker 2: their big wins to how they've gotten through some of

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Speaker 2: life's toughest moments. On the show, you can expect vulnerability, motivation,

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Speaker 2: My mission is simple to inspire you to be your

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Speaker 2: best self, move with intention, and have some fun along

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Speaker 2: the way. Y'all, I have some big news. I've been

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Speaker 2: having a lot of fun along the way because Hurdle

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Speaker 2: is officially at two million downloads. Wow, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I definitely was crying before I recorded this intro for

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Speaker 2: this week's episode. I am my mind is blown. I'm

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Speaker 2: so full of gratitude and so appreciative of the journey

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Speaker 2: and all of you. Without all of you, this would

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Speaker 2: not be possible. So from the bottom of my heart,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for being a hurdler, for being

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Speaker 2: a part of this community, for coming back week after

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Speaker 2: week and giving me some of your time. Really, I

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Speaker 2: that note, today's episode, Brioni smythe yoga teacher extraordinary Alo

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Speaker 2: It took a huge toll on her well being and

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Speaker 2: she shares openly about her experience using drugs and partying

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Speaker 2: she was approached to host a travel show which took

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Speaker 2: that the journey is what got her to where she

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned, we do chat about some sensitive topics

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Speaker 1: You know it, it was for the first four months

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Speaker 2: and try to work through what was going on for you?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? That's a really great question. You know what's

434
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: interesting is then now that you say that, I actually

435
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: had another piece of my personality that I've worked through

436
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: quite a lot over the last decade. It started back

437
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: then I was so good at pretending. I was so

438
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: good at flipping the switch, is what I used to

439
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: call it. Like, you know, I developed that as I

440
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,239
Speaker 1: would walk onto stage be so nervous backstage, and you know,

441
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: I was young, and so I just thought, well, I'm

442
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: expected to just perform, so I would just flip a switch.

443
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: No matter how I was feeling on stage, I would

444
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: be fine. In front of people, I would be fine.

445
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: So even my parents didn't know that I was so

446
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: unhealthy until I ended up in the hospital when I

447
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: was fifteen, and so you know, nobody really checked in.

448
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 1: It was like Briye's fine. Brian goes to school, Briye,

449
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, performs and she tours and she says she's fine.

450
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: So she's fine. And I think I actually even was

451
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: so good at pretending that I believed I was fine.

452
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Luckily for me, you know, I like to think sometimes

453
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: that there was something, whether it was the universe protecting me,

454
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: or it's angels or whatever you want to believe life's

455
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: path guided me to yoga. I was probably at my

456
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: at my worst, and I went to India and Nepal.

457
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I was a host for a travel channel and we

458
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: did a whole thing on India and Nepal, and one

459
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: of the bits, it was like a two week trip,

460
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: was ashtanga yoga, and you know, I really didn't I

461
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: remember just thinking, Okay, here's another thing I need to do,

462
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: and we can get through this day. It's fine, and

463
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I walk in It's a two hour my sore practice

464
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: and I just it was just the most incredible experience

465
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: of my life. And that was the almost like the

466
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: pinnacle of my next negative you know, the way I

467
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: was treating my body in a negative way. I remember

468
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: in Chavas and I was just I had this epiphany,

469
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: like I need to be doing better things for myself,

470
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: you know, I have my whole life ahead of me,

471
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Like I can't keep living my life like this. And

472
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: just two weeks before, I'd been in the hospital because

473
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I was fatigue. So I actually stayed in India and

474
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: extra week with a guardian, you know, like my manager

475
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: who was there, and we did my sore every other day,

476
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 1: and it was just a saving grace.

477
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Speaker 2: I don't.

478
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I actually, you know, stop treating

479
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: my body negatively on the eating disorder side until I

480
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: had my daughter. But it got better.

481
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: You talked about dealing with this so heavily, starting at

482
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: a younger age, you know, fourteen, fifteen, and then you

483
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: had your daughter at twenty one. So to be feeling

484
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: some way like that for so many years, especially in

485
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: your teen years, you know, that's that's some heavy tought off,

486
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: super heavy.

487
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: But what's interesting about me is that I was so

488
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: busy that it was like, Eh, When I look back,

489
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: I just think, Wow, I just skated by. I just

490
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: got through those years, and I had a ton of fun.

491
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: You know.

492
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, I had a darn

493
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: good time. And you know I worked a lot. Like

494
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: I said, I started getting really professional, eased off of

495
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: the drugs and the partying a bit at seventeen. So

496
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: I think yoga had a lot to do with that.

497
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: That's why I always tell people, Look, you could find

498
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: yoga for any frickin' reason. You know, it could be.

499
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: I think yoga gives me a great butt. Anything right,

500
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: and yoga will start to seep its way into the

501
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: different facets of your life because you feel so good

502
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: when you practice often, and when you start feeling good physically,

503
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: you start making better choices for your body and your mind.

504
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: Definitely, and I think that's true for really any wellness

505
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: routine in our practice that just makes us feel better.

506
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: I mean, when we all start to get older and

507
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 2: we age. I don't know about you, but like I

508
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: prioritize now the things that I know that make me

509
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: feel good, and if there are going to be things

510
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: that prevent me from doing the things that I want

511
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: to do to feel good, then I might not do

512
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: those things as often. For instance, if I know that

513
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: I want to wake up and go for a long

514
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: run on Saturday morning, then I'm probably not going to

515
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: go out like I did when I was twenty one

516
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: and visiting New York City and be at bars until

517
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: two in the morning. I haven't done that in years, So,

518
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, we just you change things when you start

519
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: to realize and prioritize what's really important.

520
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: In your life. Absolutely. Yeah.

521
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 2: So you mentioned obviously having your daughter at twenty one.

522
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: Talk to me about entering that phase of your life.

523
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: It was scary for sure, but at the same time

524
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: when I was pregnant. I you know, it was the

525
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: first time with especially with the eating disorder, that I

526
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: realized and had such a strong reason to stop treating

527
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: my body in an unhealthy way. I was still taking

528
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: diet pills, I was, you know, addicted to laxatives, eating

529
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: very little food. But when I got pregnant, I was

530
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: like ninety five pounds or something ridiculous. And I just

531
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: remember having an epiphany when when I found out I

532
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: was pregnant, I just thought, well, it's not just about

533
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: me anymore. And sorry, I alays get emotional when I

534
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: say that out loud, because it was such a big

535
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: experience in my life to realize that, you know, maybe

536
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: it was a calling. I loved singing, and I loved,

537
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, being a role model somewhat of a role

538
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: model for my fans, but you know, realizing that I

539
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: was going to become a mother, it was like it

540
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: was just like wow, you know, finally something a job

541
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: that I know I would want to do, and then

542
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to be really really good at And during

543
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: that pregnancy, I just stopped all of that shitty behavior.

544
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: I hope I can swear. Sorry, Okay, I stopped all

545
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: of that shitty behavior with my body, and you know,

546
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: it takes It's so interesting because it takes time to regulate,

547
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, after you've been treating your body horribly for

548
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: so many years. And the pregnancy was just like the

549
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: perfect excuse to be like, wow, now I'm going to

550
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: eat healthy and I'm going to stop with this and that,

551
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was a beautiful time in my life.

552
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: It was trying, for sure, because I left Thailand and

553
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: you know it was I wasn't married, and it was

554
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: what two thousand and four or two thousand and three, one, No,

555
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: it was two thousand and four, and you know, Thailand

556
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: was in this shifting time, but it wasn't quite there

557
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: to where having a baby out of wedlock was acceptable, funny, right,

558
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: So my mother and I just made a choice to

559
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: like disappear, you know, just to app here for a

560
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: while and see what happens. And I was so ready

561
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: for that. I just disappeared mid touring for an album

562
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: and there was tons of news media for years and years.

563
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: I was gone, like just totally gone for five years.

564
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: For years and years, there was tons of news speculation

565
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: on where I was, whether I had a kid or

566
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, what I was super happy to

567
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: do that I was ready, and you know, I moved

568
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: to Texas to Houston where my husband or you know,

569
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the father of my baby and then my husband was

570
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: living at the time, and we just you know, hunkered

571
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: down and tried it out, like our families were really supportive,

572
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: and it was it was just a totally different life

573
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and I really enjoyed that, but

574
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: it was hard.

575
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Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing that with me. I can also

576
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: imagine that. I mean, it must have felt like a

577
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: really big relief, firstly stepping away from being such a

578
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: public person. And secondly, I mean, I would assume in

579
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: making this transition and doing so with your mom at

580
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: the time, opening up to her maybe in a way

581
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: that you hadn't before.

582
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, definitely. My mom's always been really supportive,

583
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, just anything I wanted to do, Like in

584
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: my high school years, I changed high schools three times

585
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: because you know, first it was bullying, second it was

586
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: the school doesn't allow me to be absent, you know.

587
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: So she's always been there for me. And when I

588
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: told her, it wasn't even like we didn't even skip

589
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: a beat. She was like, Okay, well that's great, let's here,

590
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: let's plan, you.

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620
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Speaker 1: Oh, it was tough. It was so tough. I mean

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Speaker 1: going from you know, I was living in Bangkok, but

622
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623
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Speaker 1: south of Thailand in Kosamoi, which is where I run

624
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Speaker 1: my teacher trainings, and so I had a pretty nice life.

625
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Speaker 1: And then I moved to like Texas, which is fine,

626
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Speaker 1: but Houston it's just a big change. You know, it's

627
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Speaker 1: a concrete jungle there, and you know, I've always been working,

628
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Speaker 1: so I thought, okay, well, I'll just work with my

629
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Speaker 1: husband's parents and they are the nicest people that are

630
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: really successful in the in the silver, sterling silver industry.

631
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: So I went from you know, pop star to helping

632
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: them sell sterling silver on like QVC in HSN. It

633
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: was such a strange time in my life. And then

634
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: we started this. I was probably when I moved there

635
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Speaker 1: in let's say, I don't know, I was probably four

636
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: months pregnant when I moved there, And from that moment

637
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: to the day I gave birth, we opened a retail store,

638
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: and I gave birth, and a week later I was back,

639
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, at the store, and it just was such

640
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: an incredible experience. You know, as a teenager, I always

641
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: wanted to work retail. I don't know, my daughter wants

642
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: to as well, and I'm just thinking, what is the

643
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: appeal there? I wanted to And we opened this store

644
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: called Charming Charlie. Horrible name, but you know it was

645
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: my my ex husband's name, Charlie and his parents opened

646
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: it and it was this cool concept of like wholesale

647
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: but with a retail experience. And he actually took that

648
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: store to this day to five hundred stores worldwide. So

649
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: proud Wow, Yeah, pretty crazy. But yeah, I've always been working,

650
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: so you know, I just kind of drowned out my

651
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: despair of being in a new city that I didn't

652
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: really like and had a baby and worked.

653
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: So in this time period, when does yoga become something

654
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: that you do recreation generally two more something that you

655
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: want to invest a greater focus in?

656
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: Good question, So that hurdle. You know, living in Texas,

657
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: being away from my family, I always had this feeling

658
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: it wouldn't last too long. And my ex and I

659
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: we fought like cats and dogs. We were also so young,

660
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: you know. He loved to go out and party and

661
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: here I am home with a baby. At twenty one,

662
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: twenty two, we both moved to New York when our

663
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: daughter was a year and a half to attend Columbia

664
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: for our master's business school. And you know, he managed

665
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: to get through it. I didn't. I only did a year.

666
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: It was really tough and we were fighting all the time,

667
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: and we actually ended up breaking up during that time

668
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: and I moved back to LA. So now it's two

669
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, our daughters three. I moved back to LA.

670
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: He finishes in New York, and you know, we spend

671
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: years in a custody battle, in a business legality suit battle.

672
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: It was probably, I like to say, I like to think,

673
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably one of the most trying times

674
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: in my life because I was young. You know, I'd

675
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 1: never experienced legal battles. You know, they get really dirty,

676
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: really messy. Long story short, you know, it was about

677
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: it was money. It was you know, using our kid

678
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: as a pond to make sure that money wasn't paid out.

679
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: It was just a horrible experience. I mean, we got

680
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: subpoena after subpoena, jury trial, and I basically spent my

681
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: life savings trying to protect myself from you know, the unfairness.

682
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: And I got my daughter. I gave up the business,

683
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: which I still am very proud of myself about because

684
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: I could care less about money, you know, like it's

685
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: happiness and your kids for me are top priority. And

686
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: moved back to la with nothing, and you know, first

687
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: I started to you know, try to do something in

688
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: the same world of fashion and ended up losing even

689
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: more money since two thousand and eight hit and all

690
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: the orders I had for my little dress business just

691
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: went down the drain, and it was like thing after

692
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: thing all. In the meantime, I'd been doing yoga, you know, consistently,

693
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: still practicing. When I was living in Texas, I was

694
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: actually practicing on DVDs a woman called Beth Shaw. I

695
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: forgot what type of yoga it was, but you know,

696
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: that was like my lifeline back in the day. And

697
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: when I moved back to LA I started practicing at

698
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: Yoga Works and really getting my heart into it again.

699
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: And after the big financial fail, I was like knee

700
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: deep in debt, I was like, okay, well, why not

701
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: just do my teacher training. I started practicing with two

702
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: really inspiring teachers. One Annie Carpenter, who you know is

703
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: the inspiration for the type of yoga that I teach now,

704
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: super alignment focused. And then Catherine Budig, who's who is

705
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: still my inspiration for the playful style that I teach,

706
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: but also for being a bit more you know, of

707
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: a go getter yogi influencer in a sense. You know,

708
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: when I saw what she was doing, you know, I

709
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: liked a joke. She wasn't the classic, you know, older

710
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: yoga teacher in a unit art. She was cool and

711
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: hip and young and you know, teaching Snoop Dogg and

712
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: Bill Murray was in her class. Like I would go

713
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: to her class just to practice next to Bill Murray

714
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: and I would just be like, oh my god, Bill Murray. Yeah,

715
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: she was super cool. So that had to have been

716
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, and I did my teacher trainings.

717
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: I did a thirty day, two hundred hour and I

718
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: you know, I remember spending like four thousand dollars on

719
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: it on a credit card and just being like, well,

720
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: here we go, here's more debt. My parents are like, so,

721
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: how much do yoga teachers make? And I just thought,

722
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, It's time for me to

723
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: do something that not only I'm passionate about, which I

724
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: have been passionate about everything I've done, but something that

725
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: I believed would be a really great role model for

726
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, a really great plus to my life.

727
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: Like fashion wasn't going to be it, you know, singing,

728
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm not going to have a great lifestyle singing, but

729
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: teaching yoga maybe right.

730
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: There was there was room for growth there. So you

731
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: do the teacher training and then after that experience, are

732
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 2: you just completely sold? This is what I'm going to do.

733
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: Let's run after it. One hundred percent.

734
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: Well, that's been my pattern in my life. You know,

735
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm doing this, so I do it

736
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. It was not easy. I would say,

737
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: you know that. This is when I teach yoga teachers,

738
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: which is one of my biggest passions. Now. I always

739
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: am honest, like, look, I know it's really, you know,

740
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: attractive to quit your corporate job and become a yoga

741
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: teacher because you see Briany, you know, traveling the world

742
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: teaching yoga and whatever. But it's not easy when you're

743
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: new in any industry. And when I was new, I

744
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: was paying to teach. I'm not joking.

745
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: It was.

746
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: It was the year where all of these Brian Kest teachers.

747
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: So Brian Kest was a big teacher here in La

748
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: He still is. He has a studio that's a donation

749
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: based studio, so teachers rent the space and then they

750
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: get one hundred percent of the cash donations after class,

751
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: so people don't have to buy packages or whatever it

752
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: may be. They just walk in, take a class and

753
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: then they put cash in a little box. And so

754
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: that was a big deal at that time, and a

755
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: lot of studios were opening with that concept. The problem

756
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: is not all of those studios had enough people coming

757
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 1: to them. So you know, I packed my my weeks

758
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: with time slots, and I was paying for those time slots,

759
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: and I was bare breaking even, but I stuck with it,

760
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: and you know, I knew that it was possible to

761
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: succeed because there were teachers out there, you know, living

762
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: a decent life and teaching yoga. So I actually, you know,

763
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: started just teaching a bit more. It's exactly what I

764
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: would tell people now, like sub for teachers at every studio.

765
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: You can practice as much as you can at studios,

766
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: so people know who you are. And then I met

767
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: my second husband, Dice, who I would say, you know,

768
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: I always tell him like, if it weren't for him

769
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: helping me get jobs, like I don't think I'd be

770
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: teaching yoga anymore.

771
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 2: Right, right, So you so you met him, and then

772
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: how does that kind of change things for you?

773
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: Well, I would say that, you know, at the time

774
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: and even now, that there were a lot more really

775
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: talented female teachers in the industry, and so for him

776
00:45:54,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: being a very talented male teacher and also you know,

777
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: looking good, he was able to get jobs. You know,

778
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: It's it was simple and so I would practice in

779
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: his classes. Like literally the first two years of my teachings,

780
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: I made no money, but I practiced two to three

781
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: times a day because I would just ride around with

782
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: my fiance or boyfriend, you know, with dice and go

783
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: to all of his classes. And so I got really strong,

784
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 1: got some notoriety in the community here as a strong practitioner.

785
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: And you know, anytime somebody would want a sub substitute

786
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: teacher in any of the studios I was practicing at,

787
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: I would, you know, put my hand up. So that

788
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: helped me a lot. And then finally, you know, I

789
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: was I had my eye on Equinox. I always tell

790
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: people like, none of my opportunities in the early years

791
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: came to me. All of them I chased, And with Equinox,

792
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 1: I chased that. Just to get a class there took

793
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: me six months. And when I say I chased it,

794
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: I was like hounding Keith, who is the regional manager,

795
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: with emails like once a week, Hey, just reminding you

796
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: that I'd love to audition for you. You have to

797
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: audition at Equinox. And the funniest part of it is

798
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: that finally, you know, when I finally auditioned for them.

799
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: It was because a lot of the students in DICE's classes.

800
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: You know, we're telling Keith like, hey, we really want

801
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: her to teach, and I finally auditioned for me. He says,

802
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought you were DICE's ex girlfriend.

803
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: You already auditioned and we're like no, I'm thinking, oh

804
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: my god. If I hadn't been persistent, I wouldn't be

805
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: where I am today. That's for sure. Because Equinox was

806
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: a big step for me because through teaching at Equinox,

807
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: I got the opportunity to do this Equinox video called

808
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: The Contortionist, which propelled my career into a different platform.

809
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 2: Where was that video on the internet.

810
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: It was on YouTube. If you google it, you know

811
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Equinox yoga video whatever, it comes up, and it was,

812
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: you know, one of it's for one of it's one

813
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: of the first kind of social media yoga videos out there.

814
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: I think it was back in like twenty eleven. And

815
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: the first week we got over a million views and

816
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: it was such a big deal. Equinox had created the

817
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: video with me because they were launching their blog called

818
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: cbe Blog, which is called something Else now. And we

819
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: furthermore furthermore, thank you. Yes, I should know more.

820
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I remember this.

821
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Yes, it was such a big deal. And they flew

822
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: me to New York and we just filmed all day.

823
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: I was at the peak of my strength and flexibility,

824
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: and I look at that sequence now and I'm like,

825
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe I did that sequence all day long.

826
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: It was like eight hours of shooting from different angles,

827
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was such a big deal. And I,

828
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: you know, I remember thinking, Okay, Riy, you have spent

829
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: the last ten years saying you didn't take, you know,

830
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: as much advantage of your opportunity as a kid. You're

831
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: going to roll with this. You're going to take advantage

832
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: of this opportunity. And I did.

833
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: That's awesome. So was the video well received then.

834
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: You know, yes, and no, there was a lot of

835
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: I like to think that any press is good press,

836
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: and I've learned that for many, many years of you know,

837
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: people saying bad things are good things about you when

838
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: I was a sinner, So I was I was quite

839
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: prepared for it. And you know, in the first day

840
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: it's shot up to or maybe the first two days,

841
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: to a million views. And I made the mistake of

842
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: reading comments on YouTube, and I saw like all sorts

843
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: of things, you know, like oh beautiful, amazing, of course,

844
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: but then the thing that stands out is that comment

845
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: like she looks like a stripper or oh, you know,

846
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: yoga's not about you know, what's the word about anyways,

847
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: when when women are not looked at in a pleasing

848
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: way or in like an empowering way. Can't think of

849
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: the word, but anyways, there was a lot of different things.

850
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: It was good and there was bad. And I remember

851
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: I wrote a comment back to that she looks like

852
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: a stripper one and I said, well, thanks, you know,

853
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: I think strippers are humans too, And immediately I get

854
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: a call from from Keith at Equinox and he just said, look,

855
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: I think you'd be happier if you just took a

856
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: higher ground and just ignored the negativity. We'll deal with that.

857
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: And I did, and you know, it turns out that,

858
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, the negativity ended up coming full circle and

859
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: becoming positivity. Because of that negative feedback, there was a

860
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: lot of press around the video, and I had a

861
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to talk about, you know, what was

862
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: coming up for people because the negativity was about me

863
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: being in my underwear right and doing yoga, which now

864
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: when you look back, it's like it's like there's more

865
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: than just people doing yoga. They're underwear, people are naked

866
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: doing yoga and social media. So it's funny how far

867
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: we've come. But I'm thankful for that experience.

868
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 2: So from that experience, did you start to get reached

869
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: out to by other brands and individuals that wanted to

870
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: work with you?

871
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I, you know, I the biggest part of it.

872
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, I didn't really have the know

873
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: how yet at the time to maximize the social media presence,

874
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: I did, you know, put myself on social media and Facebook,

875
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: and when Instagram came up, I at Instagram. But I

876
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: really focused more on building my credibility as a teacher

877
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: in the yoga world because one of the biggest opportunities

878
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: that came about was traveling and teaching. We would get

879
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: we my my husband and I, we were traveling and

880
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: teaching together. We would get so many invitations to teach

881
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: at studios and festivals around the world that we were

882
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: booked out for three four years, you know, just a

883
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: year after that Equinox video. Because my husband ex husband

884
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: was also on yoga Glow, which was is a platform

885
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: that you know, people all over the world can practice

886
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: with you on. So that was a big deal. And

887
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: we did that. We traveled every month twice a month,

888
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, once a month domestic, once a month international,

889
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: for our entire relationship for like five straight years, six

890
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: straight years. Even when I had my son. When he

891
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: was two months old, we started traveling again. So it was,

892
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, the opportunities were incredible and endless, such a

893
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: great time.

894
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: That was actually going to be my next question, So

895
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: were you doing all of this traveling with your children.

896
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: Then, Well, for the first couple of years, no, I

897
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: would travel when my daughter was with her dad because

898
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: we shared custody, so it was, you know, it wasn't

899
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: as trying. And then I really wanted to have another

900
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: little one, so you know, I did, and I worked.

901
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: I traveled until you're not supposed to, but quietly I

902
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: did till about a month before I gave birth, and

903
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: at two months we got his actually at six weeks

904
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: we got his passport. You should see his passport photo

905
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: is so funny. It's just like an angry little infant.

906
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: The small best little nugget.

907
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was so small when he was two months old.

908
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: We went to Thailand for two months and taught our

909
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: first teacher training and traveled you know, probably four different

910
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: countries with five different countries back to back. We worked

911
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: back to back for so many years.

912
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: Wow. So during this high time for your career, you're finally,

913
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: you know, finding your footing, doing something that you love,

914
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: doing something that feeds your soul, gives back to your body.

915
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: At this point, are there downsides or is this just

916
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: you in your bliss?

917
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: I can't say it was bliss. I don't think there

918
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: was much bliss there. But I was really proud of myself.

919
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: I was really proud of us because you know, we're

920
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: at the age where it's time to hustle. I felt

921
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: proud that I was able to restart from zero in

922
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: a career and actually do something that I thought had

923
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: longevity in it. But I also felt like even though

924
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: it was cool to not have any other overhead or

925
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: investment other than my time, I also knew it wasn't

926
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: sustainable that just traveling and teaching, you know, it has

927
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: an expiration date. It's tiring, and it put a lot

928
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 1: of stress on our relationship. And so I finally, you know,

929
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: Dice had been on Yoga Glow for quite some time

930
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: and I'd been trying to do some online classes or

931
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: whatever with them, and it never really panned out. And

932
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 1: finally Cody App actually and I was our manager, our manager,

933
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: I was managing Dice, and I and Cody app which

934
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: is now Alomo, reached out to us about Dice, and,

935
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: you know, being the go getter that I am, sometimes

936
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: I have no shame. I was like, well, Dice is

937
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: under an exclusive contract, but I'm not. And I'm so

938
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: thankful because Paul Javid, who was the founder of Cody

939
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: Appanow the CEO of Alo Moves, he took a chance

940
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: in me, and you know that was I was so

941
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: grateful for it because I felt like going online was

942
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: the next step, right, the evolution to working smarter not harder.

943
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: You know, I was teaching in LA and I was like,

944
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: there's there's got to be you know, you're making like

945
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: twenty grand a year teaching full time. You're just like,

946
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: there's gotta be more. There's gotta be a better way

947
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: to keep sharing what I love. And then you know,

948
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: privates come along. You're like, okay, now I'm not making

949
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars an hour. I'm making one hundred bucks an hour,

950
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: but how many hours are there in a day or

951
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: in a week. I still can only make about fifty

952
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: k a year, which is not bad, but when you

953
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: have two kids, it's it's just not enough. And so

954
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: traveling and teaching, you're like, Okay, now you're making a

955
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: significant amount of money, but the overhead of traveling is

956
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: just insane, you know. And then I'm bringing a nanny

957
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: and then I'm bringing my kids, and it's just like

958
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: you're just dying here. And so we started teaching teacher

959
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: trainings well before we were ready, that's for sure, but

960
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: we had a really great partner who helped us make

961
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: sure we were ready, and you know, those became my

962
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: passion but also biggest income earner. And you know, even

963
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: then after year nine, which was last year, I was like,

964
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, the amount of energy you put in to

965
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: a teacher training is incredible. Like I I've worked on

966
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: it so much more now. Like at the end of

967
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 1: a teacher training three years ago, I would be ruined

968
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: for like two months. I'd just be like I can't talk,

969
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I can't think, you know, I'm just an emotional mess

970
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: and it forced me to really develop self care tech

971
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: tactics and techniques and tools so that I could grow

972
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: from these trainings rather than die. And I realized that

973
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: it's actually not that effective the way that we were

974
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: teaching trainings, you know, to just have like a thirty

975
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: day you come or twenty five day you come and

976
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: then you leave. I've found it to be so challenging

977
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: to get everyone on the same page on an education level.

978
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: So I decided, you know, online teacher trainings were the

979
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: way to go to at least make it mandatory that everybody,

980
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, be exposed to the curriculum online for you know,

981
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, you know, maybe one hundred

982
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: hours online, so that when they come to an in

983
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: person experience, we're all pretty much on the same page

984
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to the theory and the technique. And

985
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: then COVID hit, you know, and you know, I just

986
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: I had, you know, eighty people signed up for my

987
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: twenty twenty summer teacher trainings, and you know, that's half

988
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: a million dollars gross, right, and you collect money for

989
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: accommodations and for tuition, and I just watched half a

990
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: million dollars gross just go poop back out of my account,

991
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: refunded everyone I had to cancel at the hotel. Who

992
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: right now, they're just struggling to stay alive. You know,

993
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: it's really sad what's going on. And then I my

994
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: team and I just said, hey, we came to the

995
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: conclusion one day. We're like, look, we have a month

996
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: and if we don't pivot, like I'm going to have

997
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: to let you guys go. And it was really it

998
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: was another hurdle. It was like, holy moly, like everything

999
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: that we've worked for might just have to go on pause.

1000
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: And then what the hell am I going to do?

1001
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, what are they going to do? It's a

1002
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: team of four people that I support, Like, I just

1003
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: felt so bad, and my team just banded together. They

1004
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: were like, bright, we believe in you. You've already we've

1005
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: already started working on this online. I'm thing, let's just

1006
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: finish it and put it out there. And I tell you,

1007
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: we've never I've never worked so hard in my life

1008
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: like that was in April, we not only sold, put

1009
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: together a sales page, but created a frickin' program with

1010
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: seven hundred videos in three months. It was, wow, the

1011
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: most insane experience. But I realized that all of these years,

1012
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, since I was a child working all of

1013
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: that are the years of putting together my team, Like

1014
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: everything just came together, and there was another hurdle there,

1015
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: like COVID could have gone. It could have gone either way,

1016
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: and here we are another dream come true, one of

1017
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: the biggest projects I've ever done, and it's everything just

1018
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: came together. Just proud of everyone and everything.

1019
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: Well, I think that this is certainly something that many

1020
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: of us, myself for sure, can definitely die, definitely relate

1021
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: to this idea of you can either have an experience

1022
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: in front of you and a situation in front of

1023
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: you and be angry and frustrated about it, or you

1024
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 2: can have a experience or a situation in front of

1025
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: you and decide, Okay, like this is how it is now,

1026
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: and this is what I can do with it, and

1027
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: that that idea, like this is what I'm going to

1028
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: do with it. It's scary as hell because a lot

1029
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: of the time, like these are things that we did

1030
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: not prepare for, Like we did not prepare for a pandemic.

1031
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: You did not prepare to refund a half a million

1032
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: dollars like that is scary and frustrating, but it's what

1033
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: you do in these circumstances. It's what you do with

1034
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, these big hurdles as we love to call them,

1035
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: that make you who you are and help you grow

1036
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: as an individual.

1037
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And I'm thankful for the hurdles. I mean,

1038
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: you said it so well.

1039
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: Like you.

1040
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: They're the things that you don't plan for. But you

1041
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: can't really plan for everything anything. Hurdles in life are

1042
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: you know the ones they're they're they're the things that

1043
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: really force you to grow. And they either you can

1044
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: either succumb to them and define your yourself as a

1045
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: victim to the things that happen in your life. And

1046
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, there are certain circumstances where that happens.

1047
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:17,959
Speaker 2: But if you.

1048
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Can get through something challenging by being aware, by being present,

1049
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: making the best choices you can possibly make, even if

1050
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: you fail, you will learn. You know, I've learned so

1051
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: much from failure. Like when I stopped singing, it was

1052
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: because uh, piracy had hit and we went from selling

1053
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: millions of albums to fifty thousand. And you know, you

1054
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: just you just adapt and you can't not in every instance,

1055
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: hopefully not feel sorry for yourself. You know, feeling sorry

1056
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: for myself. I always tell my kids, Okay, it's a feeling,

1057
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: it's an emotion. It doesn't go anywhere. Now where do

1058
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: you go with it?

1059
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: Right?

1060
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: Can you be accountable? Accountability was the biggest game changer

1061
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: in my life with myself, with my relationship with myself,

1062
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: but mostly with my relationship with others. You know, I

1063
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: would blame my spouses for everything. And when I realized

1064
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: that it takes two here and that all I can

1065
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: really do is be accountable for my own actions and

1066
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: for my own growth, that's when. That's when I grew.

1067
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: When someone goes to your Instagram, they see a yoga

1068
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: teacher with two hundred and ninety three thousand plus followers

1069
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: and Alo moves trainer. When you look in the mirror,

1070
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 2: what is it that you see looking back at you?

1071
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh? Good question? What do I see? I see a mom?

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Speaker 1: I see a woman, an entrepreneur who you know is trying.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think I'm perfect whatsoever, but I do

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Speaker 1: know that I'm trying. I'm trying every day to be aware,

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Speaker 1: to be present, to choose, you know, the best route

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Speaker 1: for myself whenever I need to choose something, you know, happiness,

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Speaker 1: but mostly I see someone who's trying to live a

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Speaker 1: life of awareness and fulfillment.

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Speaker 2: What excites you right now?

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Speaker 1: Seeing my kids grow really excites me. It's fun to

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Speaker 1: see their milestones within myself. What excites me is a

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Speaker 1: solid night of sleep.

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Speaker 2: And then I mean I have to touch on this

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Speaker 2: obviously because we have mentioned Alo twofold here. First off,

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Speaker 2: if you had to pick one item of your Alo

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Speaker 2: wardrobe that I need to buy.

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Speaker 1: What is it? You know? I love Alo. They've given

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Speaker 1: me so many opportunities, and every woman loves clothing, So

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Speaker 1: I wear Alo all of the time. It's comfortable, it's great,

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Speaker 1: and they have been a consistent in one of my

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Speaker 1: only clothing sponsors for a long time, so I've never

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Speaker 1: shamed to a shame. To mention Alo and talk about

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Speaker 1: my favorite pieces, I would have to say, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing Alo right now, like Alow sweats and an A.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like it.

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Speaker 2: Always looks so like crisp and comfy and like I

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Speaker 2: look at your page and I feel calm. So I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I need to know what she has to have in

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Speaker 2: her closet, Like, what's the one thing that like when

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Speaker 2: they're dirty, And I'm saying there because I'm sure you

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Speaker 2: own it in like five colors. You're like, it's time

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Speaker 2: to do laundry. Yeah, Oh of course.

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Speaker 1: I live in Alo seven eighths airlift black leggings because

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Speaker 1: black leggings are just easy. But the seven eighths are

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Speaker 1: between a full length and a capri. And I'm little,

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Speaker 1: I'm petite. I'm five to two, so the seven eighths

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Speaker 1: on a tall one would be a bit longer than

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Speaker 1: a capri. They're landing right at my ankle, so it's

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Speaker 1: just like the perfect So we're along with.

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Speaker 2: I love a se many it's you and I share this.

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Speaker 2: Oh good. And then if someone has never used Alo Moves,

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Speaker 2: where would you suggest for them to start if they

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Speaker 2: want to take class with you?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. Alo Moves has a lot of great teachers

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Speaker 1: on it. But if you've never done yoga, I do

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Speaker 1: have a Beginner's Power Vinyasa series that I think is

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Speaker 1: really great because people hate beginner They're like, I just

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Speaker 1: want to be fit, right, so I don't want to

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Speaker 1: do a beginner's class, like it's so boring and slow.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is like, if you want to be

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Speaker 1: fit and healthy by doing yoga, you need to learn

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Speaker 1: the correct ways to align yourself to create a pose

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Speaker 1: rather than create a shape. And so with the beginner

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Speaker 1: series for Power Vinyasa, I still make it challenging so

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Speaker 1: that you're getting a workout, but I'm also offering a

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Speaker 1: lot of explanations when it comes to the foundational postures.

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Speaker 2: Love that all right, final here home stretch. Right now,

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Speaker 2: you have an opportunity to offer yourself one piece of

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Speaker 2: advice looking back on arguably a time where you may

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Speaker 2: not have been as fully aware of just how much

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Speaker 2: you were going through it, dealing with being in the

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Speaker 2: public eye, going through that disordered eating behavior, and feeling

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Speaker 2: a little bit alone despite being so surrounded. You have

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to give yourself one piece of advice going

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Speaker 2: through that hurdle moment right now, What would you tell yourself?

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Speaker 1: I would tell myself that feeling vulnerable is not wrong

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Speaker 1: and to you know, allow yourself to explore vulnerability a

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Speaker 1: bit more. I have in the last you know, in

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Speaker 1: my thirties. But you know, I thought I was fine.

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Speaker 1: I thought what I was offering to people as myself

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Speaker 1: was fine until I realized that I had a huge

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Speaker 1: wall up. So Yeah, that vulnerability is powerful. It's not

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Speaker 1: something to shy away from.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today. I really,

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Speaker 2: really really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I cried, I laughed. It was fun.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully the listeners did too. Please take a moment and

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Speaker 2: leave a quick review by clicking the link with the

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Speaker 2: description to this episode. We all face multiple hurdles in life.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear about yours. Reach Out to me

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Speaker 2: at Emily at dot us, connect with the podcast Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast. Brian, how do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: Give me the details?

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, you can find me on Instagram. I'm Yoga

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Speaker 1: with BRIONI also on YouTube as well even Facebook, and

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Speaker 1: my website is aligned yoga dot com, where you can

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Speaker 1: find my online teacher trainings.

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Speaker 2: I am at Emilybody at Hurdle Podcast. Another hurdle conquered.

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Speaker 2: Catch you guys next time.