WEBVTT - A Senator, a Catholic, and a Cactus Walk Onto a Campus

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<v Speaker 1>Now thank you. We have now been to two schools.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the third stop on the Full Verdict Live

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<v Speaker 1>tour in partnership with Young America's Foundation, special thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>the Logan family. We started out on Governor Walker's home

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<v Speaker 1>turf of Wisconsin. We moved on Well, we were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be out of college campus. That didn't quite work out.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't like us up there, but we still made

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<v Speaker 1>that podcast work. We then moved on Senator to your

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<v Speaker 1>home turf of Texas. We are now on my home turf,

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<v Speaker 1>this very popish place. Here, a Southern Baptist and a

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic and a cactus walk onto a university campus. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Verdict with Ted Cruz. It is really terrific to

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<v Speaker 1>be here, a Catholic University of America. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just came from the Land of Freedom in Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>I landed here, and I got to tell you, I

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<v Speaker 1>was I was pretty shocked because there's this mask mandate

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<v Speaker 1>in place. Every single person in Washington, DC needs to

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<v Speaker 1>wear a mask except the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have that right? Look, only if he's out

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<v Speaker 1>at a restaurant powering around with rich people. That then

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<v Speaker 1>the mask mandate doesn't work it And to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know there was a camera. Most importantly, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know about it. Yeah, this is a very tricky virus.

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<v Speaker 1>You put a camera on you, my god, you need

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen masks. You take the camera off, no problem at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say it is pretty audacious. Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking about this vaccine mandate, the mask mandates

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<v Speaker 1>that is actually shutting down segments of our economy, and

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<v Speaker 1>amid all of this, with such hubris, with no shame

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<v Speaker 1>at all, the President and his wife walk into this restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>The security detail is masked. Everyone else there is mask

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<v Speaker 1>but the rules don't apply to him. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that is the same restaurant are actually the

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<v Speaker 1>sister restaurant of If you remember a couple of years

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<v Speaker 1>ago when Heidi and I were going out to dinner

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<v Speaker 1>in DC and this group of Antifa protesters surrounded us,

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at us, ended up following us out of the restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>exact same restaurant that Joe Biden is walking around in

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<v Speaker 1>without masks, you know. To Biden's credit, though, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to give him credit. He, unlike the Transportation Secretary,

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<v Speaker 1>has ostensively been showing up for work over the past

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<v Speaker 1>two months. But the Transportation Secretary, amid the worst supply

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<v Speaker 1>chain crisis certainly of my lifetime, he's on two months,

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<v Speaker 1>going on three months of paternity leave. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say this story actually pisses me off. Look. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>people are walking on eggshells around this story. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like nervous about Oh well, it's paternity leave. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to say anything bad about that. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>really we're we're woke, we're sensitive, and you know he's gay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that I really can't hit you can't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>don't say it, senator, And like, Okay, our country, it

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<v Speaker 1>is over two hundred years old. I am pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Bootage Edge is the first and only cabinet secretary

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of our country to take a paternity early. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fair, you know, not just okay, stay home, be

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<v Speaker 1>a few days with the kid, be a week with

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<v Speaker 1>the kid, but two damn months. Yeah, and and counting.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said he won't he won't stop, he won't

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<v Speaker 1>come back to work even with the supply chain crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose the only thing you have to recommend it

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<v Speaker 1>is that probably if Bootage Edge were doing his job,

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<v Speaker 1>the crisis would be worse. I have to assume. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>this story actually encapsulates a lot of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>are infuriating. Number One, Buddha Jedge doesn't show up to

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<v Speaker 1>work for two months. Ye. Number two, they keep it

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<v Speaker 1>a secret. They don't tell anyone. There's no public announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no he's a cabinet member. If you're a cabinet member,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a responsibility to show up to work. Number Three,

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<v Speaker 1>it was fascinating none of the press reports on it. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any reporter at the Department of Transportation who

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<v Speaker 1>sixty days in would say, you don't know, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen in sixty days. That's Secretary guy. Does he still

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<v Speaker 1>work here? And it's okay? Look, you might say, the

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of Transportation doesn't show up to work, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a tree falling in the woods. Who noticed? Who cares? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>But it happens to be right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a transportation crisis that is impacting the whole country. Well, now, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an economist, so I would like to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts as a as a lawmaker, someone who sees

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<v Speaker 1>this up close. I have been reliably informed that historic

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<v Speaker 1>inflation and an historic supply chain crisis is one a

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<v Speaker 1>high class problem. That's what the White House Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Staff said. And two it's actually a good thing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Jensaki at the White House and Pee Boodha judge

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<v Speaker 1>have both said in the last two days. Look, there

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<v Speaker 1>is an arrogance to this, and all of these themes

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<v Speaker 1>are connected together. The arrogance is that this administration wants

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<v Speaker 1>to implement policies on working people, on the little people

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<v Speaker 1>that they themselves don't follow. Ye and when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at something like inflation. So the White House Chief of

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<v Speaker 1>Staff Ron Clane tweeted out that that it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>high class problem inflation. You know, last I checked, buying

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<v Speaker 1>food is not a high class problem. Yea. The last

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<v Speaker 1>I checked, rent isn't a high class problem. Gas isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a high class problem. Diapers aren't a high class problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's easy to sit back and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what difference does it make as inflations going up and

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<v Speaker 1>up and up. But listen, and I gotta say, we're

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<v Speaker 1>with mostly college students. By the way, I loved the

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<v Speaker 1>astros shirt. Awesome shirt, by the way. In nineteen when

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<v Speaker 1>the Astros played the Nationals. I went to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the games here in DC. Sat behind home plate was

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<v Speaker 1>the lone orange shirt in a sea of red. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember that was a weird series where the away team

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<v Speaker 1>won every game. So I was literally surrounded by Nationals fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing Astros. It is a miracle I didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>my ass kicked. I'm seeing a theme here that restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>in DC with Antifa, and then you're the orange shirt

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<v Speaker 1>at the game. It had nothing to do with politics.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all baseball and we were winning, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty loud and obnoxious about it. But look

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<v Speaker 1>the double standard. You know, for all of y'all in college.

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<v Speaker 1>The last twenty years, we've lived in this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>weird holiday from history because inflation hasn't really exist. We've

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<v Speaker 1>had inflation one and two percent for about twenty years now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you, I remember the nineteen seventy So I

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<v Speaker 1>was born in seventy. I was a kid in the seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean, I remember when we had double digit inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when you had home loans, home mortgage loans

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty one and twenty two percent. That's massive. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about inflation, we're up at about five or

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<v Speaker 1>six percent now, so we're several times higher than what's

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<v Speaker 1>historically been true. And I'll tell you really gets hit

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<v Speaker 1>by that our seniors. If you're a senior year on

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<v Speaker 1>a fixed income and suddenly all your expenses are going up, rent, food, gas, utilities,

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<v Speaker 1>everything you're paying for and so the income doesn't move,

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<v Speaker 1>the outflow goes up. You know, there's an irony where

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<v Speaker 1>the White House Chief of Staff and the whole Biden

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<v Speaker 1>apparatus now is trying to pretend that inflation and supply

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<v Speaker 1>chain issues are a high class problem. Actually the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>is true. These issues disproportionately affect poorer people. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>historically speaking, wealthier people can just make they tend to

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<v Speaker 1>make more money even as inflation goes up. But also

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<v Speaker 1>basic goods gas, heating your home, food. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>will disproportionately affect people on smaller incomes. But it's the

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of gas. It's the it's the gas lighting that's

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<v Speaker 1>going on. Now. We're being told that up is down

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<v Speaker 1>and black is white and right is left. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, while we're debating paternity leave for our

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<v Speaker 1>transportation secretary. And let me be clear about something, because look,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I are both fathers. In fact, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>a new father. I am, yeah, thank you. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>babies always get applause, and a Catholic university, you can

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<v Speaker 1>count on it. So you know, I remember when when

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<v Speaker 1>our girls were born. So our girls are thirteen and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine's about turn eleven, um and listen, I'm a maternity

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<v Speaker 1>leave is awesome. Heidi took a full maternity leave. It

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<v Speaker 1>was wonderful with a newborn. So our girls were born

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<v Speaker 1>ten and thirteen years ago. I have to admit ten

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen years ago, i'd never heard a paternity leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten months ago, i'd never heard of. We didn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It wasn't like we made a conscious decision

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<v Speaker 1>not to talk about it. It was okay. She was

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<v Speaker 1>caring and I love my girls, but we just it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a thing, all right. So now it's a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fine. You know a lot of jobs that

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<v Speaker 1>can be fine, but but being in the cabinet is different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you have a responsibility not to disappear from

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<v Speaker 1>the job for two months. Yeah, and you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that damn hard to pick up a zoom

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the in the middle of in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of a pandemic. You can zoom. You can be

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<v Speaker 1>on the job at home, and it says something that

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a view that this is not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We can do what we want. And it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>double standard that applies in a lot of contact. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>if you zoom out and you look at the geo

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<v Speaker 1>political picture, here we're sitting around debating whether cabinet secretary

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<v Speaker 1>should just disappear for family time for more than two months,

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<v Speaker 1>we're debating whether it woke. Generals in the military ought

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<v Speaker 1>to be sending critical race theory texts to the troops. Me. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like there's anything important to monitor. No, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like the Chinese or testing hypersonics or anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing I just read about. So our greatest

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<v Speaker 1>geopolitical foe is testing out weapons that are blowing us

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<v Speaker 1>away that we didn't know we're possible at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile we're twiddling our thumbs. So look a hypersonic

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<v Speaker 1>You look at a ballistic missile that goes up in

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<v Speaker 1>the air, goes up into the atmosphere, comes down, and

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<v Speaker 1>missile defense systems to take them out. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>put a nuclear warhead on the top of an ICBM

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<v Speaker 1>and you can Our missile defense systems are designed to

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<v Speaker 1>try to take them out. A hypersonic is very dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>because in what China tested is something that goes up

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<v Speaker 1>on a rocket, but then very load of the atmosphere

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<v Speaker 1>goes about five times the speed of sound and is

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<v Speaker 1>able to orbit the Earth is able to steer. Suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>missile defense doesn't work that well, and they were testing

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<v Speaker 1>it with the ability to put a nuclear warhead on

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<v Speaker 1>the front end of it. It also means one of

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<v Speaker 1>the potentials. So our missile defense is all keyed on

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<v Speaker 1>missiles coming over the North Pole. Look, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it was developed with the Soviet Union, where naturally the

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<v Speaker 1>North Pole is the shortest distance there. With China also

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<v Speaker 1>the North Pole is the most natural, So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>in Alaska big missile defense batteries. With a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>a hypersonic is they can now come over the South Pole.

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<v Speaker 1>They can come over the potentially the technology would let

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<v Speaker 1>them come over the South Pole where we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the missile defense on our southern border, or for that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>our southern border of the real Grand They could just

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<v Speaker 1>give it to a drug cartel and carry an That's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the easiest way. It's the most direct way, far

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<v Speaker 1>closer than the South Pole. And listen, hypersonics technologies moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>We're developing them, our enemies are developing them. But I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, reading the stories, the Biden administration repeatedly said

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<v Speaker 1>we were shocked, we were astonished, we had no idea

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<v Speaker 1>they had this technology. And it reminded me of the

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<v Speaker 1>disaster and Afghanistan, where they said we were shocked, we

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<v Speaker 1>were astonished, we had the no idea. The Taliban were

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<v Speaker 1>bad guys. Yeah, if only someone had told us, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they should be shocked a little less. Look like

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<v Speaker 1>if they weren't concentrating on putting out cartoon recruiting ads. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we could be focused on our enemies who want

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<v Speaker 1>to kill us. Right. You know, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the current crop of leadership, whether it's in agencies, or

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the White House or wherever, or it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Joint chiefs of Staff, it's pretty depressing when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the future of America. Though, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the young people, especially the ones assembled here. It gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a little more hope. Should should we get to

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<v Speaker 1>their questions? That's what I'm here for. Should we bring

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<v Speaker 1>out our friend Liz Wheeler to moderate an open discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be taking all of your questions, so make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you line up. If you disagree with us,

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<v Speaker 1>all of them, not not all. If they're tough, please,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want it. We don't need to hear that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And just for the role, if you if you start

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<v Speaker 1>with with lnear algebra, I'm gonna make the Yale graduate

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<v Speaker 1>answer that one. That's great. Yeah, you know I mostly

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<v Speaker 1>studied lesbian dance theory, underwater basket weaving, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>the top majors at Yale. So but you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we can do. We'll kick it to Liz. She can

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<v Speaker 1>answer those questions. You know. If you make that promise,

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<v Speaker 1>we may demand performance. Good to see you would just

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<v Speaker 1>see you good to see a senator. Whinney said that

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<v Speaker 1>a Catholic, a senator, and a cactus. We're coming to

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<v Speaker 1>a campus that I hope you weren't talking about me

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<v Speaker 1>when you say you are not the cactus. You are

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<v Speaker 1>the second Catholic. Actually we brought reinforcements. Should we take

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<v Speaker 1>some questions? Good? Yes. Do we know the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>the questions. We know the rules of the questions. Ask

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<v Speaker 1>one question, not two, not three, not two, part not three,

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<v Speaker 1>part one question. Make it succinct so that we can

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<v Speaker 1>get to as many questions as possible. If you disagree

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<v Speaker 1>Plus there's some great questions that have already been already

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<v Speaker 1>been submitted. So this first question, Senator, is directed obviously

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<v Speaker 1>at you. It's from an Iraqi war veteran, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know, there have been over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty thousand quote unquote migrants released into the country

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<v Speaker 1>since March. With that being said, why are we still

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<v Speaker 1>not processing k one fiance visas? Why punish those who

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to do immigration the legal way? Yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very good question. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>view and immigration I've always summarized in four words legal, good,

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<v Speaker 1>illegal bad. I think there's a right way to come

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<v Speaker 1>to this country. The right way is to stand in line,

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<v Speaker 1>to follow the rules and come here legally, and fiance

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<v Speaker 1>visas have been one of the long and traditional ways

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<v Speaker 1>of doing that. You know. One of the strange things

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<v Speaker 1>about how the Biden administration has handled immigration is on

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border. We have an open border. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>over one point three million people cross illegally just since

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<v Speaker 1>Biden has become president. But at the same time, they've

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<v Speaker 1>shut the border down to legal commerce. It's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very strange combination where where they're not allowing So you

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<v Speaker 1>have Mexican citizens, for example, who routinely would come up

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas and they'd go shopping, they go out to dinner,

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<v Speaker 1>they would come there. There's a heavy traffic back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a legal commerce back and forth. The Biden

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<v Speaker 1>administration shut that all down. So it is a bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're coming with a cartel to break the law,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fine with it. If you're actually coming legally to

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<v Speaker 1>drive the economy, they're not. I think that's backwards and

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<v Speaker 1>we ought to be prioritizing doing it the right way.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think, Senator, I mean to the viewer's question,

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<v Speaker 1>is it incompetence from the Biden administration? Were to quote

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<v Speaker 1>your colleague Marco Rubio from the campaign? You know, does

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<v Speaker 1>Biden know exactly what he's doing. Let's dispel with the

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<v Speaker 1>fiction that he doesn't know what he's doing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>is is this intentional? So? I think the open borders

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<v Speaker 1>are intentional, and it's because it's two things. One, Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and Harris essentially made promises to the radical left in

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party that they would have open borders, that

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't enforce the law, and so far they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been willing to renege on those those promises. But secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think more broadly, they view unlimited illegal immigration as

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<v Speaker 1>as future Democratic voter. Yeah. I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>crass political decision, and I got to tell you it's horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spent a lot of time at the border. The

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<v Speaker 1>kids who are coming in are being brought in by traffickers,

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<v Speaker 1>They're being abused. It is. It takes your breath the

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<v Speaker 1>way to see what's happening, you know, on the legal side,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a good answer for it. So why,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, they shut down legal commerce across the bridges.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It doesn't make any sense, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I've called for them to open it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats have called for them to open it up, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't do it. I have never been able to

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<v Speaker 1>get a good answer as to why. It's interesting too.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to note that the Biden administration tried to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent the media from covering this. They tried to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>the drones that were showing footage in del Rio. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you were actually the first one. You can talk your

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone down there to show the American people what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. Because clearly the Biden administration knows that what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening isn't just arbitrarily happening, that it's happening as a

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<v Speaker 1>direct result of their political choices. So it does beg

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<v Speaker 1>the question whether it's being done or for what intention

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<v Speaker 1>it is being done, since they know that their choices

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<v Speaker 1>are causing that problem. Yeah, all right, are you guys ready?

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<v Speaker 1>So when you step up to the mic, introduce yourself first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can address your question to the senator,

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<v Speaker 1>to Michael or to me. What's your name? Hi, My

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<v Speaker 1>name's Nick. I'm a senior history major here at CUA,

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<v Speaker 1>and for the record, the history department rocks here. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to hear it. So, Senator Um, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about freedom. You talk a lot about freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk a lot about liberty, but with all respect,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard you talk a lot about throughout your career.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the purpose of human freedom? So I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you tonight what is the purpose of human freedom?

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<v Speaker 1>And is it the ultimate virtue as human beings that

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<v Speaker 1>we should seek or is there something more. Wow. So Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>let me say you have just demonstrated your first statement,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the history department rocks here that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a great and profound question, and we're starting with depth.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at at the end of the day, I think

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<v Speaker 1>every human yearns for meaning, yearns for a purpose larger

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<v Speaker 1>than ourselves, a purpose larger than our lives. That is

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<v Speaker 1>a purpose that that for billions for the time of

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<v Speaker 1>humanity has been filled for many with faith. As for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a Christian and my faith is a very important

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<v Speaker 1>part of who I am. But I think when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to freedom, there's a different role. If you're assessing

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<v Speaker 1>how am I going to live my life, then there

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<v Speaker 1>is a question of what are the governmental policies that

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<v Speaker 1>should be in place. And and you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the founding of our country, we were founded

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<v Speaker 1>by people fleeing religious oppression and coming to a place

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<v Speaker 1>where where we could live according to our faith and

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<v Speaker 1>worship God and live live our lives according to our faith,

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<v Speaker 1>according to our conscience. And from a governmental perspective, I

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<v Speaker 1>think government should not have its finger on the scale

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<v Speaker 1>one way or the other. We should protect rules that

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<v Speaker 1>allow everyone to go and seek whatever faith questions, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>faith journey. And by the way, look I'm a Christian now,

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<v Speaker 1>but but all of us have had a faith journey.

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised as a Christian. I had a period

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in school where I was probably fairly

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<v Speaker 1>described as an agnostic. I had doubts, which which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young people certainly do. Actually, Heidi had a

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<v Speaker 1>similar journey questioning her faith when she was in school.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a very common part of life. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we ought to have legal rules in place that

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<v Speaker 1>protect the ability of each of us to try to

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<v Speaker 1>answer the ultimate question, to try to answer what has

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<v Speaker 1>our purpose. I can tell you one thing I point

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<v Speaker 1>out a lot, particularly when I talk to young people,

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, look, think about what people will say

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<v Speaker 1>at your funeral, little macab But but when you're dead

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<v Speaker 1>and buried, what are they going to say? And nobody

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<v Speaker 1>is going to remember how big of a flat screen

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<v Speaker 1>TV you had. Nobody is going to remember if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a fancy car or not. I mean the material

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<v Speaker 1>possessions in life. Look, you need enough money to have

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<v Speaker 1>food and shelter and provide for your family. But the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing anyone ever talks about at a funeral are

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<v Speaker 1>the lives that you touched. Are the people whose lives

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<v Speaker 1>were made better because you lived? Are the people you inspired?

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<v Speaker 1>Are the people you helped, Are the people whose world

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<v Speaker 1>was bettered because of your effort. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a big part of having a higher purpose is

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<v Speaker 1>making a positive difference in your home and your family,

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<v Speaker 1>and your neighborhood and your community and your state in

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<v Speaker 1>your country. And I think each of us is on

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<v Speaker 1>a journey to figure that out. It's also worth remembering

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<v Speaker 1>aligned from Saint Paul when we're trying to make sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what do we really mean by freedom? Saint Paul says,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I want to do I don't do,

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<v Speaker 1>and the things that I don't want to do I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is that is he just speaking gibberish? Is what

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<v Speaker 1>does that even mean? Well, what he's describing as the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between his appetite, his base desires, and his higher

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<v Speaker 1>rational will. And we all know, I mean, the clearest

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<v Speaker 1>example of this, I guess, would be a drug addict,

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<v Speaker 1>right who at the very base appetite level, wants to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot up a bunch of drugs, but at the higher

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<v Speaker 1>level he does he wants to quit. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be in control of himself and have freedom. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that the Founding Fathers describe this distinction as one between

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<v Speaker 1>liberty and licentiousness. And you know, we all used to understand,

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<v Speaker 1>not just conservatives, everybody in this country used to understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think recently we've kind of redefined liberty as

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of just doing whatever you want, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how base that is. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Founding Fathers warned that this would be the end of liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why when John Adam says that the Constitution

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<v Speaker 1>is built for a moral and religious people and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not fit to the government of any other, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>Bible thumping. John Adams was not a Bible thumper, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not being superstitious. He's describing this this complex fact

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<v Speaker 1>of human freedom. And I mean, I think that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're speaking to, Senator. I suspect that's what the question

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<v Speaker 1>is getting at. That if we if we want self government,

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<v Speaker 1>if we want to keep the project of the republic going,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to be able first to govern ourselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years we've had trouble doing them. And on

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<v Speaker 1>the question of licentiousness, for what it's worth the brownies

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<v Speaker 1>here we're provided by the state of Colorado. I think too,

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<v Speaker 1>if I may interject here, I think to as Catholics

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<v Speaker 1>and as Christians, we should recognize that freedom as protected

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<v Speaker 1>by the government is a vehicle for us to make

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<v Speaker 1>the right decision. It allows us, as Christians and as

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<v Speaker 1>Catholics to choose virtue, to choose Christ. It almost mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>the choice that Christ gives us, you know, giving us

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<v Speaker 1>free will. We can choose Him or we can choose

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<v Speaker 1>to reject Him. And that's why it's incumbent on us,

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<v Speaker 1>as both Catholics and Christians, but also political activists, to

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<v Speaker 1>defend freedom in as many aspects of life as we can,

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<v Speaker 1>because it allows us to be, as Christians and Catholics

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<v Speaker 1>closer to God by making those decisions. So it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a vehicle that mirrors our faith. I think, thank you, Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? Hi? I'm Jane Edwards. So I actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a question regarding immigration. I am a history major

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<v Speaker 1>here at Catholic University, and my question for the immigration

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<v Speaker 1>is for legal immigration, because it is often on a

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<v Speaker 1>case by case basis. Will you actively seek to fund

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<v Speaker 1>immigration courts and lawyers? So it's a great question. The answer,

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<v Speaker 1>at least on the court side, is yes. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you so back a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember when suddenly the news was dominated with the

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<v Speaker 1>phrase kids and cages, and it was said over and

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<v Speaker 1>over again. Look, I was very concerned then and now

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 1>about the kids in cages, and and I actually introduced

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 1>legislation to address it. And in particular, you had a phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you go back to the history of where

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<v Speaker 1>this came from, why is it that there are kids

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<v Speaker 1>in cages? The initial cages were built by Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened if you go back to and my

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are if you go back to I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, the number of unaccompanied children that came to

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the US in that year was I believe six thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly thereafter, as when Obama announced Dhaka, which was the

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<v Speaker 1>executive amnesty for people who came illegally to the country

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<v Speaker 1>as children. Now, if you announce amnesty for people who

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<v Speaker 1>come as kids, you create a massive incentive for people

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<v Speaker 1>to come as kids kids, And the very next year,

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<v Speaker 1>the number of unaccompanied children that came illegally to this

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<v Speaker 1>country went from six thousand all the way up to

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three thousand. It was a massive explosion. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw the kids in cages was

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty fourteen. They were in Texas. Barack Obama was president.

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<v Speaker 1>They were in Lackland Air Force Base, and they built

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 1>them because the numbers, the massive numbers were coming in

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 1>as a response to the executive amnesty. And actually the

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>border patrol interviewed the kids and said why are you coming,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and the kids said, over and over again, they said,

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>because we get a permiso, which is if we come,

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 1>we get to stay. It's very difficult to get the

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<v Speaker 1>press to cover all of the kids that were in

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>cages that and kids, by the way, that we're being

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 1>physically assaulted, sexually assaulted. The traffickers that are bringing them

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<v Speaker 1>in are bad, bad guys. Fast forward to the Trump presidency,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 1>then suddenly the kids in cages that were still there.

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>That became a major issue, and we saw a new phenomenon,

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>which was family units coming over. And so that was

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>a different form of migration. And what drove that is

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>something called Flores So Flores was a lawsuit that the

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Obama administration had settled, and it's a settlement that they

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<v Speaker 1>entered into in the Ninth Circuit that provided a strict

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time limit on how long a child could be kept

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in detention if they came illegally, and the Obama administration

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>agreed to it. It was entered into as a consent

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>decree by the Federal Court under Flores. What it then

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<v Speaker 1>became the case was that if an adult came with

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a child, all of them would be released within the

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>time limits of Flores, and so it would force them

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>all to be released. And we started to see a

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:59.160
<v Speaker 1>phenomenon that was a terrible phenomenon where adults were showing

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>up with kids that were not their kids, so they

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>would present as a family unit, and border patrol would

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<v Speaker 1>do a DNA test and a very significant percentage of

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.560
<v Speaker 1>them were completely unrelated to the kids. And in fact,

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>we were seeing a horrific phenomenon of children being rented

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 1>out that if you were a single adult man who

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted to come to the United States, if you brought

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>a kid, that kid was a get out of jail

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>free card. Well, in light of all of that, I

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<v Speaker 1>introduced legislation and I tried to team up with a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 1>so I spent oh probably twenty hours negotiating with Diane

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<v Speaker 1>Feinstein and trying to say, Diane, Okay, let's not have

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<v Speaker 1>family separation. I agree emphatically family should stay together. That

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>if you have a mom and dad and kids, they

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>should all stay together. No one wants to see the

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>kids separated from the family. But the answer can't be

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>so release everybody, because that creates much more illegal immigration.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:03.320
<v Speaker 1>So the bill I introduced kept families together. It created safe,

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>secure family detention facilities where you would you would keep

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a family all together. And then it funded if I

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>remember correctly, I think it was five hundred new immigration

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>judges to provide for expedited hearings, so that if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a family presenting a claim of asylum, presenting a

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>credible fear of persecution, that you would have the courts

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<v Speaker 1>right there to adjudicate it right then get a swift answer,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and if they meet the legal standard, they stay, and

0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>if they don't meet the legal standard, you put them

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<v Speaker 1>on a plane and send them home. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>filed this legislation. You can read the bill. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting negotiating with Diane. When she and I

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<v Speaker 1>would talk, we actually had quite a bit of agreement,

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and she was when we talk about what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>at the border, and she was disturbed by it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say her staff, I think was far

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<v Speaker 1>to the left of where she was, and actually democratic

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>leadership they sent Dick Durbin to basically monitor Diane because

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want her to greet anything with me. We

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>ended up not being able to get bipartisan agreement. So

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I filed my bill, but no Democrats joined together. I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we can end family separation right here, and we can

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>also fund the immigration courts to resolve these claims. There

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>was no democratic appetite to do that. Thank you, all right.

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>For those watching online, those watching the event live streaming

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0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 1>you those who are watching online right now. Before we

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>got to your question, I do want to take another

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>question from Verdict Plus. Is a little bit of a

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>saucy question about big tech, and I'm very interested to

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>hear your answer. Actually, and this is the user name

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>of this individual I thought was very funny too. It's

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a real truth captus. Yes, I love the real truths

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>um he asks, is it's a yeah, oh well, my

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>apologies of course. Um this is what she asks. Is

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 1>it a coincidence that Facebook shut down the same day

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that Francis Howan, that's the Facebook whistleblower that testified in

0:32:16.280 --> 0:32:18.959
<v Speaker 1>Congress blew the whistle on them? Or am I just crazy?

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 1>You know? I have to admit I thought the same thing,

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and and that day tweeted out a gift of uh

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Facebook headquarters running through the hallways going shred it all.

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know, but it was. It sure

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.600
<v Speaker 1>was an interesting quinkydink. You know, if the last few

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>years have taught us anything, I think it's that the

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>difference between a wild, crazy conspiracy theory and the truth

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>is about six to twelve months. You know, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the big distinction. So here here's my follow up question.

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>That was I have it on good authority. It came

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.520
<v Speaker 1>from Russia to begin with. Here's that's a joke for

0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the Internet censors. That's a joke. I didn't get it

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>on good authority. I got it from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.719
<v Speaker 1>You can't can't stand when we call him out for subscriptions.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>So we got to balance that out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to your question. What's your name? Hi? My

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>name's Ali Trust. I'm a double major here in philosophy,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>pre law, and history. I have thank you. I have

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>a question about immigration regarding the humanitarian crisis at the border. Um,

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>what are you or what would you do regarding all

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the abuse and sexual assault going on at the border

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>right now with those kids in cages. Yeah, look, it's

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>it's what is happening now. I've been to the border

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times that I've represented Texas nine years

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<v Speaker 1>in the Senate. Going down to the border something I

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<v Speaker 1>do frequently. I've never seen it remotely this bad, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth noting, you know, when you ask what can

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>we do about it? Sometimes when the press asked that question,

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what they mean is there's no way to solve it.

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm not suggesting that's what you mean by it, but

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what the press means when they ask it. And

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.360
<v Speaker 1>we know that's actually not true because last year we

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>had the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>So what we were doing a year ago was working.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 1>What were we doing a year ago? Well, the best

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>way to understand how we got into this crisis now

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 1>is the first week Joe Biden was in office, he

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<v Speaker 1>made three decisions on immigration that had massive consequences. First

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>thing he did is he immediately halted construction of the wall.

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 1>And so if you go down to the wall there

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>portions of it they're built that are big, beautiful wall,

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 1>as someone might say. And then on January twentieth, they

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.720
<v Speaker 1>literally dropped their tools. You see rebar that's just rusting

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>that down on the ground. You see bulldozers that are

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 1>just parked, and they we are paying contract actors millions

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>of dollars not to build the wall. That was step

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<v Speaker 1>number one. Step number two is the Biden administration reinstated

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>catching release. Catching release was the policy where you apprehend someone,

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>you give him a court date sometime in the future,

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you let them go, say hey, please show up at court.

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 1>The vast majority of them are never seen again. Catching

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>release doesn't work. If you want a secure border, you

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>can't have catching release. The third decision, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>probably the most significant, was that Joe Biden ended the

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Remain in Mexico policy. Now Remain in Mexico was an

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.520
<v Speaker 1>agreement that President Trump negotiated with the government of Mexico

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and Mexico agreed that people crossing illegally into the United

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 1>into Mexico, typically from Central or South America, would remain

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico where the US asylum case was cases were proceeding.

0:35:55.960 --> 0:36:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Remain in Mexico proved to be an incredible success and

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<v Speaker 1>it's what produced I mentioned a moment ago. We had

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest rate of illegal immigration last year in forty

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>five years because of remain in Mexico, our government working

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>cooperatively with the government of Mexico. On day one Biden

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 1>tour that into pieces and we have today the highest

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>rate of illegal immigration in twenty one years. And let

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>me take a minute to talk about So what is happening?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? A few weeks ago, I was down in

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<v Speaker 1>South Texas, did a bunch of roundtables and sat down

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>with law enforcement and sheriffs and ranch owners and farmers

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and local elected officials. So the ranchers, I remember there

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>were two different ranchers, both women, who described almost the

0:36:46.320 --> 0:36:50.680
<v Speaker 1>exact same thing. They said, they don't allow their teenage

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 1>kids to go out on their property without an armed firearm,

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>that they're just so many traffickers crossing their property on

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a daily basis, that it's not safe for their kids

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to be out there and they were mad, they were

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>ticked off. You know, how is my country not allowing

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>these criminal cartels just to ignore the law with impunity.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 1>We also heard from law enforcement who describes so many

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of the illegal immigrants who come across, they're wearing a

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>colored wristband and the color corresponds. So to cross the border,

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to pay the cartels. You can't if you're

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. You want to cross in the US. If

0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you try to swim on your own, they'll kill you.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>The cartels have a total monopoly, and you pay them

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:45.040
<v Speaker 1>anywhere between three and eight thousand dollars. And what happens

0:37:45.080 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>when people come across is typically they get put in

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>stash houses just north of the river. The stash houses

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 1>are really violent, dangerous places. There are a lot of

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 1>physical assaults there. There are a lot of rapes that

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>happen in these stash houses, and often they will extort

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>thousands more once you're there. And so the color coded

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>wristbands correspond to how many thousands of dollars you paid

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 1>and how many you owe. Now what happens next. Many

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>of these folks then go turn themselves in to the

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>border patrol, and the Biden administration sends them to cities

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>throughout the country. So you may think, you know, maybe

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>you're from New York or LA or Chicago, or maybe

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you're from DC. You may think, well, gosh, I'm not

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>on the border, this is not a problem that impacts me. Well,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>there are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that the

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Biden administration is sending to every city across the country.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And you get, for example, teenage boys that arrive here

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>in DC who owe the cartels several thousands of dollars,

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and so they're working for the cartels and they have

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>to pay it off. Remember the cartels they know who

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>their families are. And so if you're a teenage boy

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.399
<v Speaker 1>and you owe four thousand dollars, if you don't pay

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that all, they will kill your mother, they'll kill your sister.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.560
<v Speaker 1>And so you now have all of these, many of

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:12.600
<v Speaker 1>them are teenagers working for the drug cartels in every

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>city across the country. You also tragically have, particularly with

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 1>teenage girls, many of them are put into forced prostitution

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and it is horrific. So the prostitution houses that the

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>cartels have set up are like an old plantation. They

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>keep a ledger of every expense. So they charge you

0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>for your room, they charge you for your board, they

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 1>charge you for utilities, they charge you for every different fact.

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I was told the cost for the scissors to cut

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the ankle monitor bracelet off your ankle was thirty dollars.

0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>They charge you thirty dollars to cut the bracelet off.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 1>And so if you can imagine a fifteen year old

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>girl from Hondura, Sir Nicaragua, Guatemala, who came north because

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>she wanted to come to the Promised Land. She wanted

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to live free. She was inspired by America and a

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>few months later she is living in Hell enforced prostitution

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>in an establishment run by the drug cartels. This is

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>horrific and it's one of the things that frustrates me

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 1>politically when we talk about it, is that the defenders

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 1>of this policy say they're being humane and compassionate. There's

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>nothing humane about what is happening to these people. I

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>think the answer to fix it is reversed the three

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.120
<v Speaker 1>decisions Joe Biden made, which is returned to building the

0:40:46.200 --> 0:40:49.919
<v Speaker 1>border wall, end catch and release, and reinstate the remain

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>in Mexico policy. And we know that worked because it

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.080
<v Speaker 1>worked last year dramatically well. But right now, at least

0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden Kamala Harris don't want to do it. There

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>was an incredible statific stick. It came out a few

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>years ago. It was actually reported in the Huffington Post,

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 1>left wing outlet. It was relying on data from Fusion

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>and Amnesty International that sixty to eighty percent of women

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>and girls who crossed the border illegally are raped or

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:16.720
<v Speaker 1>otherwise sexually assaulted on the journey. Senator, to your point,

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 1>there are politicians in this country, and I'm not going

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to both sides it. It's politicians on the left, overwhelmingly

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>on the left, who are incentivising people to do this

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and incentivizing this perilous, violent journey because they think they

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>can score some votes out of it, in some cases

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 1>cheap labor, but mostly it's votes. And if you are

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 1>doing that, if you are opposing a border wall, if

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>you are opposing border enforcement, if you are doing all

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the things that the left is doing in this country,

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned, you've got blood on your hands.

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's not going to be solved as a both

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 1>sides question. It's the left needs to grow a conscience

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and look at the numbers and look at the reality

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>of what's happening and cut it out. Yeah, and Michael,

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I think too. It's especially pertinent being at Catholic University

0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes the leadership in the church misunderstands the church

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>doctrine on compassion, on humanitarianism, and teaches instead social justice.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Because we know Biblically we're taught to welcome the traveler,

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>welcome the stranger, and that the church. Sometimes the leadership

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of the church teaches that this is equal to an

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>open borders policy. Speak to why this is not correct, Well,

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a right to a country. You know, there's

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing in Catholic doctrine saying that you don't have a

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 1>right to have your own country, or that patriotism is wrong,

0:42:29.560 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>or that enforcing the law is wrong. Actually, the civil

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 1>authority is instituted with the authority of God, and the

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Saint Paul writes about this. You see this throughout the Bible.

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And the love of country is an extension of the

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>love of one's own family. It's perfectly natural and it's

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>perfectly right. So we want to be very kind and

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 1>very welcoming, and we do all of these things. We

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:50.359
<v Speaker 1>do it in private charity, and we do it at

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.360
<v Speaker 1>the national level too. But this does not mean tearing

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:57.439
<v Speaker 1>down borders. That actually can have a very negative consequence because,

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you erase the borders of this country,

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you're erasing the national identity itself. And then where is

0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>it exactly that the people are fleeing to. It's an

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>incoherent action. Well, and Liz, I think you raise a

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.120
<v Speaker 1>good question, and I'd say a couple of things on

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 1>that point. Number one, I will say that charities and churches,

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>but in particular Catholic charities in South Texas does an

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 1>incredible job caring for these children, caring for these women

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>who are abused. That there is in the Rio Grand

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Valley sister Norma who leads that effort, and I know her.

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>She is there constantly, She works tirelessly, and you know,

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>these children who are going through unspeakable horrors. It's not

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the kid's fault. And we should certainly show these children

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and these people love and compassion. But the real love

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and compassion would be not to create a legal system

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that incentivizes hundreds of thousands or millions of people to

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>be brutalized by these cartoons. And you know, it is

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 1>absolutely true that that that the Catholic Church and the

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Bible teach to welcome the traveler. But often what has

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>missed there is no country on the face of the

0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>planet that welcomes more immigrants than the United States of America.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>We are the most generous and welcoming country in the

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>history of the world. And in fact, the countries that

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that lecture us on how dare you secure your borders,

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>they don't let people in. I mean, it's utter and

0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>complete hypocrisy. We're a country built by Look, my dad

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 1>came as an immigrant from Cuba. I love that. We

0:44:46.560 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>are a melting pot and and we are built by

0:44:50.160 --> 0:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>people seeking freedom. We should keep that. But but simply

0:44:55.040 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>having a lawless system where innocent people are abused, used

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:05.439
<v Speaker 1>by vicious criminal cartels. That's not compassionate. That is being

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.600
<v Speaker 1>willfully blind to the horrific crimes that are being carried

0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>out as a result of failed government policies. Yep, I

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>think that's I think that's correct, and it's it's the

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 1>right thing to do to note which side of the

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>aisle those policies are being carried out. Thank you for

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.600
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0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in upon itself. And I don't know if I was

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>supposed to mention tonight that the cactus beat both of

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 1>your faces onto the surprised. I'm not surprised. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a face for podcast, but the cactus is the real

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<v Speaker 1>star of the show. Yeah, that's exactly right. All right,

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>are you ready with your question? Introduce yourself clear body.

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm Sam, I'm a working professional, but Senator Cruz, I

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:15.320
<v Speaker 1>was actually one of your interns back in college in Houston.

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I see Grant over there, So hey, Grant, I don't

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.480
<v Speaker 1>know if he remembers me, but hey, and you know,

0:46:21.600 --> 0:46:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael and Liz obviously were both your All of us

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>are part of the mystical body of Christ. So I

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like I already know you guys are ready here.

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That's where I knew you from. Okay, So my question

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 1>is to both Michael and Senator Cruz and Liz as well,

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>if you'd like surrounding the definition of liberty. Liberty is

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>a word that's kind of used as a buzzword on

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the right, but it is also used by many on

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the right to justify and perhaps even passively allowed the

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>cultivation of very vicious acts. So I was wondering if

0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael and Senator Cruz, if you could both give your

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>own definition of the word liberty and maybe comparing contrast,

0:46:57.680 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>because something tells me you might not perfectly agree on

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the definition. Sure, I'll borrow my definition of liberty from

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Lord Acton. Winston Churchill famously said that if you don't

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:10.080
<v Speaker 1>have a good education, you should just quote really smart people.

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So i'll quote quote Michael knows all the time. So

0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Lord Acton points out that liberty is not the ability

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to do whatever you want to do, but rather the

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 1>right to do what you ought to do. And we

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>touched on this a little bit earlier when we talked

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>about how liberty and licentiousness are not the same thing,

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:32.000
<v Speaker 1>about how the rational will exists to mediate between the appetite,

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the base passion, and the divine will, and it's what

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 1>separates us from from the beasts. So I guess the

0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>example I would use to bring all of that down

0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to earth is education. The point of education is to

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>make us free, right, That's why we call it liberal education.

0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.359
<v Speaker 1>We call it the liberal arts. So the whole point

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of it is to make us free. And when you

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>are free, you are not being coerced, right. That's I

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:58.040
<v Speaker 1>think that's probably the basic thing we would all say

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>about freedom. But the iron here, or the complication, is

0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that in order to attain this freedom, you need to

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:10.880
<v Speaker 1>be coerced by your teachers, by the exams, by the grades.

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're coerced for twelve years, thirteen year, oh, fifteen,

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 1>depends on how much schooling you're going to go through.

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>By the time that this administration is over. With free

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>college in PreK, it's going to be thirty five years.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So it's a lot of coercion, but it does serve

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.399
<v Speaker 1>a purpose. You do actually have to train your will,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>and this is a difficult process. And when people are

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>in college sometimes they make some mistakes. They let their

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>appetites run away with them. It's not so good. The

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>George W. Bush famously said, when I was young and

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:43.239
<v Speaker 1>ear responsible. I was young and ear responsible. But the

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.840
<v Speaker 1>idea is, you want to mature and grow up. And

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:49.720
<v Speaker 1>so I think we have this mistaken conception of liberty

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that really comes from Freud. We have this kind of

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:56.359
<v Speaker 1>steam engine idea of liberty, which is that I've got

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 1>all of these appetites and desires, and if I don't

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>engage in even the base ones, even the one the

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>naughty ones that I'm not supposed to do, if I

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>don't let off a little steam every once in a while,

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 1>then I'm just going to explode. This is different from

0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:12.920
<v Speaker 1>say Aristotle's understanding of behavior of vice and virtue, and

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the Catholic understanding and my own understanding, which is that

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>when you practice the virtues, which are habits, they get

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier. This is a fallen world. We're

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:25.719
<v Speaker 1>all sinful. It's we're going to stumble. We're probably not

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.680
<v Speaker 1>going to act perfectly in this world. In fact, I

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:30.040
<v Speaker 1>know that we're not, but it is going to become

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 1>easier the more you practice these virtues. And the same

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>is true of the vices. And I say this with

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a great deal of experience. When you practice the vices,

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:39.959
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of hard to do it the first couple

0:49:40.000 --> 0:49:41.759
<v Speaker 1>of times, and then it's easier and easier, and then

0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>it's harder to stop. And this I think it would

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>be the description of addiction. And so any coherent understanding

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of liberty I think has to take into account virtue.

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>It certainly did for the founding fathers, it has for

0:49:54.080 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 1>statesmen for all time. You mentioned the mystical body of Christ.

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.360
<v Speaker 1>Christ says in the Gospels the man who sins is

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a slave to sin, and we just know that to

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 1>be true in our own lives. Anyone who's ever sinned

0:50:06.600 --> 0:50:08.879
<v Speaker 1>knows that that is the case. And so I think

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:10.759
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I think sometimes and just in

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:15.800
<v Speaker 1>recent decades, we've taken a more shallow view of liberty,

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and liberty is not a shallow thing. And to quote

0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan, it's not passed in the bloodstream either, Okay,

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it's one generation away from being lost, which is why

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so important to educate people in freedom. That's what

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 1>YAF is trying to do. That's part of the purpose

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast. And while the left, I think wants

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to really suppress our freedom by appealing to all of

0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 1>our vices. Senator Cruz and I talked about this on

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the Prager Yu book show. We talked about Brave New

0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>World and the conquering of a people by cultivating vice.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I think we need to recognize that to have true freedom,

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we have to have some idea of what's good. So

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:56.000
<v Speaker 1>that was an amazingly erudite and well thought out answer.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, I will say that the number one Michael

0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>talked about practicing vices, um And I will note that

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>after the last verdict we did at Texas a at

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 1>M that you and the entire team came back to

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:11.479
<v Speaker 1>my house in Houston and we practiced vices until about

0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.520
<v Speaker 1>three in the morning. We had some very expensive scotch

0:51:14.560 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and some very cigars. Um And and I'll say, you know,

0:51:19.000 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>your practice makes perfect. This is the thing I keep

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>working on it. Um. You know. But but Senator, to

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.600
<v Speaker 1>be fair, the body is a temple, and the temple

0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 1>needs incense, Okay, so I'm gonna defend that. So one

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of the things I find interesting in your question is

0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 1>you said you guys may disagree on this, And I

0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.560
<v Speaker 1>think that was insightful because I listened to what Michael

0:51:44.600 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>said and I thought it was quite learned, and yet

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really agree with it. Um. And and you know,

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I would say there's a distinction. It may be the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Protestant distinction. Um. I would say I have a

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<v Speaker 1>more libertarian bent, perhaps than Michael. I would say most people.

0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:05.439
<v Speaker 1>I think at Tilla the Hume has a more libertarian look.

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>When you ask what liberty is, Liberty is the right

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<v Speaker 1>to make your own choices in your own life, to think,

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, to the right too. As as John Locke

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<v Speaker 1>put it, life, liberty, and property the liberty. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the famous formulations of liberty is my right to swing

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>swing my fist ends at the tip of your lip.

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<v Speaker 1>Knows you have a right to do whatever you wish

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:36.000
<v Speaker 1>with your life. You don't have a right to impinge

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>on the liberties of others. You don't have a right

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to impinge on the rights of others. There's some in

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the philosophical world or legal world that a positive distinction

0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>between negative liberties and positive liberties. Negative liberties are essentially

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 1>lead me alone, don't silence my speech, don't prevent me

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>from practicing my faith, don't take away my right to

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 1>keep in bare arms. Those are negati of liberties positive liberties,

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're typically folks on the left that are advocating this.

0:53:04.960 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Are a liberty to have healthcare, a liberty to have housing,

0:53:11.080 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>a liberty to have and there it's an entitlement that

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<v Speaker 1>is framed as a liberty. In my view, liberty as

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<v Speaker 1>the former and not the latter. Liberty is the right

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<v Speaker 1>to be left alone. Now what Michael said about the

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<v Speaker 1>right to do as you ought. Look, I yes, I

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.879
<v Speaker 1>think you ought do as you ought. That's what ought means,

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the power of tautology. But I also think you have

0:53:40.040 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>every right not to do as you ought. And so

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:48.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want to exercise your free will to be

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a sloth or a drunkard, or to fritter away your life,

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.959
<v Speaker 1>you have a right to do that. Now, I would

0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:02.840
<v Speaker 1>hope you wouldn't. I would encourage you not to, but

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:07.800
<v Speaker 1>it is within the realm, the realm of choice for

0:54:07.920 --> 0:54:11.040
<v Speaker 1>you to make it so in the legal world, and

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I'll shift to law. There's a big debate in constitutional

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>law that is sometimes viewed as a debate between Scalia

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and Thomas, and it is whether the law protects whether

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution protects natural rights. And my view is that

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 1>the Constitution limits the power of government. And they're a

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:38.759
<v Speaker 1>host of things. So, for example, school choice is an

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 1>issue I am deeply passionate about. I've spent twenty five

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>years of my life fighting for school choice. As much

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.840
<v Speaker 1>as I believe in school choice, I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>should have judges mandating school choice, even though it would

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>help kids enormously, because I don't think we should be

0:54:56.200 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>reading into the Constitution a mandate for our own personal

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<v Speaker 1>policy choices. So when it comes to what liberty is,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I have a more capacious framing of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would leave in terms of urging the virtuous

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<v Speaker 1>life as a very Aristotilian call on your part. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a great That is a great calling for

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<v Speaker 1>pastors and priests and motivational speakers and anyone seeking to teachers,

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:34.120
<v Speaker 1>anyone seeking to help people find their calling in life.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, we shouldn't force it. And

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 1>by the way, a natural area. This is playing out

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<v Speaker 1>as vaccine mandates, where you have government trying to force

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:51.360
<v Speaker 1>people to make a healthcare decision. I've been vaccinated. I

0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>believe in vaccines. I encourage people to get the vaccine.

0:55:55.080 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I also believe you have individual liberty and the right

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<v Speaker 1>not to get the vaccine if you choose not to,

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're an adult and make your own choices. And

0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I will say in response to that, I did tweet

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<v Speaker 1>out the hashtag your body, your choice, and left lost

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 1>their mind and they just say they're no, you're not

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:18.640
<v Speaker 1>allowed to say that. I'm like, why are you telling

0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:20.839
<v Speaker 1>people they got to stick a damn shot in their arm.

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<v Speaker 1>I think liberty should have a lot of flexibility and

0:56:25.520 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of room in it, including the liberty to

0:56:28.040 --> 0:56:31.680
<v Speaker 1>make stupid decisions, because, to be honest, we learn more

0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 1>by mistakes anyway, and you have the right to do

0:56:33.600 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>dumb things too, right, And I think it matters to

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:38.399
<v Speaker 1>what liberty is in relation to. So if you're talking

0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 1>about liberty in a community, or liberty and a culture,

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.600
<v Speaker 1>or liberty in your you know, church group, that's different.

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, the cultural stigma that might be on certain

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:49.880
<v Speaker 1>actions versus whether it's legal. And we know, you know,

0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 1>many politicians are abusive. We know people in power like

0:56:53.040 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>to exercise that power, and so we have to we

0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>have to, I think take the more libertarian view on

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.439
<v Speaker 1>liberty to allow us to make the choice to be holy,

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:04.719
<v Speaker 1>because that's what liberty should be for conservatives and Christian conservatives,

0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:07.880
<v Speaker 1>is the ability for us to choose that virtue that

0:57:07.960 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, because it's like, it's like personal charity

0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 1>versus welfare. Right. You know, if you are forced by

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the government to give money, it's it does nothing for you.

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>You're not giving up your own free will, You're not

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:20.680
<v Speaker 1>giving up your heart versus when you know you're giving

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 1>by your own choice, that is an act of charity

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>that benefits both you as the giver and the recipient

0:57:26.240 --> 0:57:28.600
<v Speaker 1>of that. So I lean more libertarian on liberty too,

0:57:28.680 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that your right to live your life,

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<v Speaker 1>or as the Founders say, life liberty, the pursuit of happiness,

0:57:34.120 --> 0:57:36.720
<v Speaker 1>which obviously means property, which means the extension of person,

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the fruits of your labor, is protected because that allows

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>us the right to make the right choices. Well, you know,

0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:46.400
<v Speaker 1>while I may disagree with that particular libertarian view. I

0:57:46.600 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>will point out to the senator's point on our staying

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>out late and smoking cigars and you know, having with

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>scotch and things like that, we burn the evidence and

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>burn and burning the evidence. I will say, I have

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>always relied on the compatientiousness of libertarians when I myself,

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I am indulging in this behavior. And in my defense,

0:58:05.600 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I went home and fed my baby, did virtuous thing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your question. I appreciate it. All right,

0:58:16.000 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be the final question. But for

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody who I appreciate getting in line. If you didn't

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to ask your question, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to Verdict with Ted Cruise dot com slash plus and

0:58:24.920 --> 0:58:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you can submit your questions there. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Cruise and I will be taking questions on a

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>fairly regular basis from those who are part of that community.

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<v Speaker 1>So Hi, what's your name? Hi there, my name is Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually work here in the DMV area. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a question for you, Senator, for mister owls um, why

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<v Speaker 1>does it not like you work better to work across

0:58:55.600 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 1>the aisles with people that have a platonic idea of

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the way that the world works versus us as a

0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>as an Aristotilian view we have. We both have the

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:08.880
<v Speaker 1>theme idea of you diamond Ea, but it doesn't seem

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>like you work well across the aisle enough to do

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:19.480
<v Speaker 1>meaningful changes. So Peter that that again is a very

0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 1>learned question, and I will say Catholic University is coming

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<v Speaker 1>through powerfully strong look In many ways, the failure of

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<v Speaker 1>both parties to work across the aisle is a symptom

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<v Speaker 1>of a broader phenomenon that's playing out in our society

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<v Speaker 1>and culture, which is that we're getting more and more

0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>polarized and tribalized and atomized. And I think social media

0:59:49.280 --> 0:59:53.240
<v Speaker 1>contributes to that powerfully. You know, it used to be

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<v Speaker 1>that we had homogenizing institutions in our lives, that we

0:59:59.000 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>might be a Republican, we might be a Democrat, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet we went to work with someone of the opposite party,

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<v Speaker 1>we went to church with someone of the opposite party.

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<v Speaker 1>Our kids played together on the playground, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe someone's the devil if you're sharing a burger

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<v Speaker 1>at a backyard barbecue. Today we're so separated that the

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<v Speaker 1>right listens to right wing news. The left listens to

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<v Speaker 1>left wing news on social media. If someone disagrees with you,

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<v Speaker 1>just unfriend them. They disappear, and we end up in

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<v Speaker 1>these feedback loops where we only hear views we agree with,

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<v Speaker 1>and we think that's the only thing. We began this.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast got a couple of questions and immigration. If

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Fox News or Newsmax or o An, you

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<v Speaker 1>know about the immigration crisis. If you watch and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist, it's simply there is no immigration crisis. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a really harmful dynamic. How does it play out

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<v Speaker 1>on Capitol Hill? I'll say in the Senate at least,

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<v Speaker 1>here here's an encouraging thing. By and large, the senators

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<v Speaker 1>get along pretty well. There's very little direct personal incivility

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<v Speaker 1>one to the other, which is good. There's more of

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<v Speaker 1>that in the House. The House is a more bare

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<v Speaker 1>knuckle place, and people can be nastier to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>There's very little of it in the Senate. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a number of Democrats I get along with very well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Corey Booker and I are friends. Kirston Gillibrand

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<v Speaker 1>and I are friends. Actually three different Democratic candidates for president,

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Kirston and Amy Klobuchar all campaigned and used as

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<v Speaker 1>a laugh line in the Democratic primary. Heck, I can

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<v Speaker 1>even work with Ted Krits. But it was just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, Okay, apparently I'm unifying Democrats somehow obliquely, there

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<v Speaker 1>are and there is some bipartisan cooperation. So let's take,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, Kirsten Jellabrand. Kirston and I have worked on

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<v Speaker 1>a number of matters together. We started working together my

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<v Speaker 1>first year in the Senate where we're both on Senate

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<v Speaker 1>Armed Services Committee, and she's been really heroic in leading

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<v Speaker 1>the fight to change how the military handles rape and

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault. And there's been a long persistent problem in

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<v Speaker 1>the military of far too many instances of sexual assault

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<v Speaker 1>and victims of assault being afraid to come forward and report.

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<v Speaker 1>And what Kirston had been advocating was moving the decision

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<v Speaker 1>and the prosecution of sexual assault out of the direct

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<v Speaker 1>chain of command rather than the commanding officer making that decision,

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<v Speaker 1>moving the decision to a professional, career military prosecutor. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that's a change other countries, our allies, the United

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom has done that. Israel has done that, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>seen significant improvements in terms of preventing us AL. Kirsten

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<v Speaker 1>made those arguments, actually went into we were having a

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<v Speaker 1>hearing in a markup. I went in with an open mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to the arguments she made, thought that were persuasive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I teamed up with her. And so for eight

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<v Speaker 1>years we've been working side by side. She's been leading

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic efforts, I've been leading the Republican efforts. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're likely to finally win that victory this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're right on the cusp of victory. That

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<v Speaker 1>was an example where we were able gradually to build

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<v Speaker 1>bipartisan support. The problem more broadly, because the electorate is polarized.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take right now the Bernie Sanders budget. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to vote on the Bernie Sanders budget. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>five point five trillion dollar budget. It is massive in size,

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<v Speaker 1>it has trillions of dollars in tax increases, and the

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<v Speaker 1>congressional Democrats have decided they want to use route power

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<v Speaker 1>to ram it through. So there are no Democrats talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Republicans about this. They don't intend to get a

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<v Speaker 1>single Republican vote in the House. They don't intend to

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<v Speaker 1>get a single Republican vote in the Senate. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to pound the living daylights out of Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mansion and Kirsten Cinema, the two loan Democratic holdouts in

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate, to get them to submit. They're talking to

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<v Speaker 1>an echo chamber that is amplifying the extremes, and to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, the right as too. That ends up producing

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<v Speaker 1>far less cooperation and common ground. I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>move beyond this. I'll tell you I am in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the polarization and fighting we've had, I am short

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<v Speaker 1>term pessimistic and I'm long term optimistic. Short term, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Democratic leadership in Congress in this administration

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<v Speaker 1>are really radical right now. That I think, and in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways that's an outgrowth of the Trump presidency. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the left hated Trump so much that it radicalized them

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<v Speaker 1>and that's being reflected in policy after policy after policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see a whole lot of common ground right now.

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<v Speaker 1>As they're trying to ram through the Bernie Sanders budget,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to get Republicans going along with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, however, going forward, there is the potential

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<v Speaker 1>for common ground, particularly if we don't demonize or vilify

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So this is a nasty business. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you get in alt you get, I mean they go

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<v Speaker 1>after your family, to go after your kids. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is brutal. And by the way, like I'm on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>I read just about every nasty thing people say on

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<v Speaker 1>me about Twitter, and there are a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you get and the funny ones I enjoy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if someone just says f you, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's very clever. You know, let's go brandon um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I try, and I hope others try not to

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<v Speaker 1>engage in nasty personal slanders. I mean, even as we

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<v Speaker 1>discussed things here, I'll disagree on policy, I'll explain why

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<v Speaker 1>a policy decision I think is a bad idea, and look,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell a joke. So, I mean, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you don't you know, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to talk like you got a ruler inserted somewhere. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have some fun. But but if you're criticizing,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's better to have a light touch and

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<v Speaker 1>a smile rather than you know, the typical political attack

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<v Speaker 1>at is this you know, super deep voice. My opponent

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<v Speaker 1>hates kitten ten crew. Gosh, what do I sounds scary?

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<v Speaker 1>So across the aisle though with them on meaningful changes

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<v Speaker 1>to bring this back to a republic from the democracy

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<v Speaker 1>than it is, say using the can you hold the

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<v Speaker 1>microphone ups saying phasing out the phasing out the positive

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<v Speaker 1>human rights that the federal government does, to increase, say

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<v Speaker 1>like a UBI, phasing out the rest of the positive

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<v Speaker 1>human rights that the federal government does. Doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>to restructure the to restructure the IRS to be to

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<v Speaker 1>do ah attacks on the velocity of money. And that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think those are creative ideas. I think those

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<v Speaker 1>are when it comes to the IRS. I've long advocated

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<v Speaker 1>abolishing the IRS and simply having a simple flat tax.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, to understand the dangers of it,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get into it. But one of the elements

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bernie Sanders budget right now is requiring your

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<v Speaker 1>bank to the report to the IRS every single transaction

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<v Speaker 1>you make of six hundred dollars or more. And you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about big brother monitoring that that is

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<v Speaker 1>a terrifying thing. And I'll say, you know, the press

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<v Speaker 1>will characterize that is, oh, that's just monitoring big money

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<v Speaker 1>rich people. Look, we're the room of college kids. Every

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<v Speaker 1>one of you that has an apartment. If you're in DC,

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying more than six hundred bucks and rent unless

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<v Speaker 1>you got forty two roommates. That I am very skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of government power, and I think the more you can

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<v Speaker 1>protect liberty against government power, against government spying, against government control,

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<v Speaker 1>the better. Those are ideas that get a lot of resonance.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you talk to people, and it's frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the purposes of this podcast is that

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<v Speaker 1>we try to engage in substance on issues. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as Michael knows, my wife Heidie listens to the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and if if she thinks we get too dogmatic, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're suddenly like pounding the table and repeating Republican talking points,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll call Michael or me and say that sucked. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never compliments when the number comes up, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it's not true. Sometimes she'll say, Michael was really good,

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<v Speaker 1>not much. But you know, frankly, I appreciate the honesty

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<v Speaker 1>because you do want to make sure that you're engaging

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<v Speaker 1>with real issues. You're not just straw manning the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not. Increasingly it's we're not even speaking the same language.

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<v Speaker 1>Very we can't even agree on the definition of man

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<v Speaker 1>and woman these days, so it can be difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with the other side, and you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>engaging with the best arguments that they have. But there

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<v Speaker 1>is another side to it, which comes from Ronald Reagan.

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<v Speaker 1>He was famously asked his strategy on the Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cold War, and they were waiting for some

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<v Speaker 1>three hour lecture on the Cold War, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>my strategy is simple, we win and they lose. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there is there some element here of is? And let

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<v Speaker 1>me suggest, I mean, look, you you invoke Reagan, and

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan has been my political hero my whole life. You look, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going back a little further than I am. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at Reagan, and let's take Reagan came in in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen elected eighty, came in in eighty one. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, there's a little bit of a folklore which

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<v Speaker 1>is that Reagan and Tip O'Neill, it was the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Speaker of the House. They were good old Irish pauls,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd sit around and they'd have a drink and

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<v Speaker 1>they'd yuck it up, and they were friends and they

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<v Speaker 1>reached common ground. And that's usually told in contradistinction to

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible crass s obs we have today. That was

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<v Speaker 1>always a bit of a rose colored glasses telling. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>go back and read what Tip O'Neill said about Ronald Reagan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he unloaded on him bare knuckles. And so

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<v Speaker 1>let's take, for example, the Reagan tax cuts. So Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>passed major tax cuts in eighty one eighty six, he

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<v Speaker 1>came back with major tax simplification. Both of them were

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmingly bipartisan. How did they get get done. The way

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<v Speaker 1>they got done is Reagan made the case to the

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<v Speaker 1>American people, and he directly went to the American people

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<v Speaker 1>and said, if we cut taxes, we need to get

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<v Speaker 1>the economy moving. Under Jimmy Carter, it was stagnant. If

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<v Speaker 1>we cut taxes on families and small businesses and job creators,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get jobs back. At the economy movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened was he persuaded millions of Americans who

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded to pick up the phone and call their congressmen,

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<v Speaker 1>call their congresswomen, and a bunch of Democratic House members

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<v Speaker 1>Bolton crossed over and and and voted for the tax

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<v Speaker 1>cuts because it was overwhelmingly popular with the people, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the most powerful tool in all of politics

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<v Speaker 1>is the bully pulpit of the presidency is the ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan would go on TV and he wasn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and in fact, maybe this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing because we've got a little bit long, but but

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<v Speaker 1>a good story to wrap up one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Reagan stories. He was doing a press conference, so a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of reporters there, and one of the reporters was

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Donaldson, and Sam Donaldson was the kind of tough

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<v Speaker 1>ABC reporters, you know what, kind of mean and Donaldson goes,

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<v Speaker 1>mister President, mister President, you have blamed the problems in

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<v Speaker 1>this country on everybody else. You blame them on Tip O'Neil,

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<v Speaker 1>you blame them on Democrats in Congress, you blame them

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<v Speaker 1>on everybody else. But you're president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you bear any of the responsibility for the problems

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<v Speaker 1>we have in this country? And Reagan smiled and they

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<v Speaker 1>leaned forward, or the twinkle in his eye, and he said, well, Sam, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I bear considerable responsibility because for many years

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<v Speaker 1>I was a Democrat. Ladies and gentlemen, on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank our friend Liz Wheeler, host of

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<v Speaker 1>the Liz Wheelers Show. You can bring her to your

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<v Speaker 1>campus with Young America's Foundation head on over to YF

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. Thank you, Liz, I want to thank Senator Cruz,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mostly want to thank all of you. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for being here. This is Verdict Vitech Cruiz