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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Stealer Nation. How we do it the better

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Speaker 2: and it's good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, guys too, all right.

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Speaker 2: Our number two here, you know, matt we need everybody

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Speaker 2: deserves a Monday to commiserate. But then after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: you got to turn the page a little bit. Monty

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Speaker 2: Python always look on the bright side of life, all right,

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Speaker 2: I think, especially during a holiday week and all that thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, give us thanks, folks.

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Speaker 4: Give some thanks. I'm thankful for you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do some more of that tomorrow on a little, uh,

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Speaker 2: little little Wednesday that we got going on tomorrow. By

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Speaker 2: the way, can I just tell you, guys, uh, I'll

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Speaker 2: give him a shout out tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I'll go back through and look it up.

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Speaker 2: But I shared with you guys, how you know Saturday

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Speaker 2: night went to the United Center and went to a

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Speaker 2: Quinnla Missy Matthews. We got our pictures taken with the

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan statue, which was awesome, by the way, Fellas

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Speaker 2: it says Michael the statue, it says, Michael Jordan, the

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Speaker 2: best there ever is, the best there ever, the best

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Speaker 2: there ever was, the best there ever will be. That's

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Speaker 2: what the statue says, Michael Jordan, the best there ever was,

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Speaker 2: the best there ever will be. Any nineties kid gets

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Speaker 2: chills hanging out there at the Michael Jordan statue. I

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Speaker 2: and I'll give them credit tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: But somebody replied and said best of the West for

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Speaker 4: this week, coolest athlete statues You've ever seen in a while,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, heck.

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Speaker 3: Yes, didn't build that list. That's bring it on, man.

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Speaker 2: That sounds good. So we'll get into that a little

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Speaker 2: bit tomorrow. We'll have a busy, busy day tomorrow, some

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Speaker 2: Matt's stats around campus, the whole whole bunch going on.

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Speaker 2: But for now, let's get into our Tuesday rewatch before

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Speaker 2: we get to some fantasy football focus here, Matt, just

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Speaker 2: a couple of things that I wanted to run by

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Speaker 2: you on the Tuesday rewatch.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I swear I wrote this down last night before Mike

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Speaker 2: Todlin's press conference today, but he started his press conference

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Speaker 2: talking about how the Steelers clearly lost the field position

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Speaker 2: battle and in a game that tight, that's costly.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I wrote down last night

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Speaker 2: The first was field positioning struggles reared their ugly head again. Uh,

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Speaker 2: for the first time since the first few weeks of

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Speaker 2: the season, after being a big strength lately. You had

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Speaker 2: the punt issues with Corless Weightmana. The return game, particularly

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Speaker 2: on kickoffs, felt like a real advantage for Chicago, and

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Speaker 2: then of course that one time you had them pen

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Speaker 2: Field positioning struggles. After we saw that a little early

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and things of that nature certainly hard for you

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Speaker 3: and I to predict. I mean, I don't watch special

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Speaker 3: missed and Scoronix banged up. You know, we talked about

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Speaker 3: twelve wasn't our best day. But you know, ten of

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Speaker 3: those seventeen games we got the better of them, two

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Speaker 2: It still feels like an anomaly. Yeah, it is a

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think they're better on teams that they're above

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Speaker 3: It's definitely not worthy in a three point game. One

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's very like, yeah, reaction.

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Speaker 4: Think about it for three hours and then hit it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I'll be honest, there's better analysis the

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Speaker 3: my sentence in this one was I thought the Steelers

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Speaker 3: and the numbers bear this out were the more efficient team,

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Speaker 3: But the Bears were the more explosive team, which is

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Speaker 3: But the tiebreaker to me was the Steelers lost a

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Speaker 4: That's a run on sentence there matter.

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Speaker 3: It's not just that was not just one, probably three.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're spot on, You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: And with that, two more things that I just wanted

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: The decision to punt on fourth down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been asked about that a lot.

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Speaker 2: Fourth and nine, your own twenty three with a minute

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Speaker 3: Game, and it was fourth and nine, right, it.

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Speaker 2: I know it was a long twenty three yard line, right,

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Speaker 4: The first is it was not a good punt by Corless. Weightman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't that factor your thoughts on Tuesday conversation.

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Speaker 4: But neither can you. The Steelers got them three and

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right right. So one thing didn't work out

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Speaker 2: Kind of mixed bag of results. It wasn't a good punt,

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Speaker 2: but you still got them three and out. Now, you

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Speaker 2: But point that all plays into the ecosystem conversation again.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't hate it like most people did.

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Speaker 3: I didn't either, and I don't know what And frankly,

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Speaker 3: that's one of my least fair things about analytics is

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Speaker 3: when to punt, when not to when to go for.

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Speaker 4: It when the factor in that you got a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 3: And as you saying what play are you gonna call?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Tell me what play they're gonna get.

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Speaker 4: I'm not trying to be too crass here, but you

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Speaker 3: I didn't that time. Like I sat there going like

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Speaker 4: defense to make a play, Yeah, then to convert a

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Speaker 3: Right, and Mason wasn't exactly throwing the ball great downfield either.

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Speaker 3: fourth down stuff I'm bothered with, you know, like they

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Speaker 3: Everything I thought was gonna work doesn't And they know

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Speaker 3: it's common or blah blah blah. But anyway, so I

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Speaker 3: saw both sides. I would have leaned towards punting in

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Speaker 3: that situation. One of my favorite podcasts I listened to

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Speaker 3: is The Athletic Podcast, and it's hosted by Robert Mays,

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Speaker 3: who's just a out of the closet Bears fan, but

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Speaker 3: he's also a really good analyst and he has good

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Speaker 3: guess but he'll I mean, he talks about the Bears

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Speaker 3: so I respect his opinion on this as kind of

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Speaker 3: what does your opponent not want you to do? And

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Speaker 3: he said when the Steelers punted, I was happy, you know,

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Speaker 3: like hmm, but I was happy as a Steelers fan

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Speaker 4: I was good.

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Speaker 4: Great point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at least you survived. Great, you're extended.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you're down ten points, maybe it's ten

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Speaker 4: Matt the decision not to kick with Chris Boswell from

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Speaker 3: Not being with the organization on the sidelines, I think

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Speaker 3: emergency situation, Yes, And there has to be an honesty

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Speaker 2: And I have to give full credit here to Max

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to think that two yard pass was that.

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Speaker 4: It was Mason Rudolph the DK metcalf to for two

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Speaker 2: They didn't have time to get in the football that

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Speaker 2: Chris Boswell would have wanted to kick anyway.

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Speaker 4: And that might confuse some people at home, but I.

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Speaker 3: Think, since I can, I'd have to have the ball.

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Speaker 2: I think since the whole the flate gate thing, everybody

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Speaker 2: kicker to kick. They wouldn't have been able to get

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Speaker 2: in that Chris. They wouldn't have had the time to

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Speaker 2: to kick in that situation.

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Speaker 3: Either this is a real long conversation that's like nerdy nerdy.

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Speaker 2: Stuff, But they've got a specific football that's inflated and bumped.

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Speaker 4: And bruised, and Warner's this year to.

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Speaker 2: The exact extent that Chris Boswell wants it to give

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Speaker 3: I'll give you the quickest version I can. There's a

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Speaker 3: and they're not the same. The kicking ball is rounder,

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks like, I want that football. That's my buddy. You know,

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Speaker 4: To seem worn just right.

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Speaker 3: You can snap it off that curve ball or whatever, right,

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Speaker 3: But it's along those lines. So it used to be

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Speaker 4: Around on the ass fall you smooth them out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like the interns would be like, your

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Speaker 3: So this year they switched the rule that you can

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Speaker 3: these guys work the ball like crazy for having an hour.

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Speaker 4: Into the equipment room and bing bong bo right right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can like put anything on it.

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Speaker 3: There's some rules, but this year you can do something

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Speaker 4: You know, I didn't have time to get that out there.

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Speaker 2: And if you're asking him to kick a twenty four yarder,

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Speaker 4: You need everything in line to attempt.

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Speaker 3: I urge people do a Google sart so about it.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a deep article on the athletic and

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Speaker 3: there is a good podcast or two where it's like, yes,

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Speaker 2: But absolutely, and you can totally get it in those

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Speaker 3: Makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's really like, I don't think that's.

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers will not throw the same football. No,

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Speaker 4: Tom Brady wanted it a little deflated famous famous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like a baseball bat, like the same

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Speaker 3: one you do I stick, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Right, uses a different one than Crystal Tank, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's got their personal there. Allowed to do that now? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wonder yes, and so that. Like I said, it

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: We only have about two minutes left for our Fantasy

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Speaker 2: football focus here. I thought that was a good Tuesday

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Speaker 4: It's not. So I'm just gonna throw at you a couple.

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Speaker 4: Would you rather for exposition? If you need a quarterback

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Speaker 4: for this week? Would you rather see j Stroud at Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: None of them are wonderful, but probably Shroud. There's no

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Speaker 4: Running backs Devin Neil of the Saints at Miami, Chris

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Speaker 3: These are pretty deep.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of leaving morning Guy and gain Well out

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Speaker 3: They've probably been picked.

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Speaker 2: Teuton at Tennessee forty eight percent of league. Still, that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tuton and Rodriguez cau this year for Rostered at

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Speaker 3: Rodriguez is the one, though, like I sneakily picked him

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's even good, but if he's the

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Speaker 4: And indeed, indeed it's that's that's the name of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, running backs to get touches are valuable.

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Speaker 2: Wide receivers here to close this down. Jaden Higgins of

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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that's kind of emerging.

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Speaker 4: I mentioned, you know, Parker Washington of the Jags at Tennessee,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good with the ball in his hands. He's

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Speaker 3: I know it's a cherry on top. Got a touchdown

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Speaker 2: I think he's getting to that point. I think he's

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Speaker 2: getting to that point. Tight ends. I mean, Colson Lovelin's

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Speaker 2: still just forty three percent. I feel like he's probably

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Speaker 3: He's very impressive in person too. I think he's going

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Speaker 4: I think so too.

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Speaker 2: I think I think this year Tyler Warren's having the

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Speaker 2: great career, but I feel like ten years from now

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Speaker 3: And both of them could be really they could.

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Speaker 4: Be all future, all pros.

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Speaker 2: We could be having them in these semi finalist Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame talks one day. It's still very early doors

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Speaker 3: Think that they're very, very prospect.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm completely with you on that. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: road continues to narrow, Week thirteen edition. The Turkey is

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Speaker 2: on the table for the Power rankings. We'll discuss when

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Speaker 2: we return. Matt Williamson, Wes Euler, It's the Drive here

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along on

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Speaker 2: a Tuesday, and it is time for our Tuesday Power Rankings,

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Speaker 2: and Matt Williamson, I think you're going to be happy

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Speaker 2: because you've been calling for it.

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Speaker 4: Finally, the Las Vegas Raiders ahead of the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 3: They should be last dead last.

447
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Speaker 4: In thirty second place.

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Speaker 3: Said last I think that's an easy one. That they're

449
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Speaker 3: almost like not playing with any pride anymore, like that

450
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Speaker 3: they're embarrassing on the field lately, Cancun on three, Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that pass protection against the Browns, Come on, man.

452
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Speaker 2: And I know the Browns have a good defensive front.

453
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Speaker 2: And you called it a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, it does really look like Miles Garrett has

455
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Speaker 4: an inside track to break the sack.

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Speaker 3: Record skyrocketing towards you. Yeah, four and.

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Speaker 4: A half to tie it.

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Speaker 3: I think it's twelve sacks of four games. It's pretty

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Speaker 3: right in that neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: He's got eighteen right now. I think twenty two and

461
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Speaker 2: a half is the record, right stats man TV, yeska,

462
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Speaker 2: less than once a game, less.

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Speaker 4: Than one well to tie would be four and a

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Speaker 4: half to tie, five or more to pass.

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Speaker 3: With five games ago, five games to go. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He plays the Raiders every week.

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Speaker 2: The Browns would be going to the playoffs. Yeah, play

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Speaker 2: the Raiders every single week. The Titans check in at

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Speaker 2: number thirty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fight.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fight on that yeah either, right.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's noteworthy that Ward played really well

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Speaker 3: in the loss last week, there's an Emmy's throw into

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Speaker 3: rookies that shouldn't be there.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, like like you and I think we

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Speaker 2: said this maybe yesterday when we were kind of just

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Speaker 2: running the game bit of results of the league from

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Speaker 2: the Titans. Right now, I'm thinking, Okay, if we hit,

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Speaker 2: if we nail this offseason, we could be in a

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Speaker 2: pretty good spot quick. We could turn this around pretty

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Speaker 2: quick if we hire the right coach, if we make

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Speaker 2: the right moves draft the raft.

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Speaker 4: Right, guys, we got.

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Speaker 3: Its attractive draft job for the coach.

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Speaker 4: Too attractive job everybody.

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Speaker 2: Every no one's gonna say no to living in Tennessee

487
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Speaker 2: and Nashville. I'm sure they're building a brand new gazillion

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Speaker 2: dollars stadium that's going to be done in the next

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Speaker 2: couple of years.

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Speaker 3: I don't know like their cap space situation, but all that,

491
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Speaker 3: but it's got to be pretty good, right. They don't

492
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Speaker 3: have big contracts.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of draft capital. You've got if

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Speaker 2: you if you can nail it this summer, I think

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Speaker 2: they can turn that thing around pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: Number thirty the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 3: That's fair. They're still playing hard, but that's fair.

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Speaker 2: You like, I don't know about having them behind the Jets.

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Speaker 2: The Jets check in at twenty nine. But the Jets

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Speaker 2: I think are playing hard and showing some signs of

501
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Speaker 2: life too.

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Speaker 3: They hung against the Ravens, you know, I mean that

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Speaker 3: a lade at halftime. Yeah, I mean, even after trading

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Speaker 3: their best players, they're still playing hard and they're not

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Speaker 3: a pushover. The bottom ones are always tough. Like to me,

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Speaker 3: the Raiders are clearly thirty two, and then there's four

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Speaker 3: or five teams in this neighborhood that are kind of

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Speaker 3: equally bad. You know that. Don't have any hope.

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Speaker 4: With you on that one. I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Saints at thirty, Jets at twenty nine, staying

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Speaker 2: at MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 4: The Giants check in at twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: They probably should have beat the Lions. I mean that

514
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Speaker 3: was real close, you know, and they battled to the end,

515
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Speaker 3: and the offense, despite not having some of their best players,

516
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Speaker 3: were a handful against Detroit. I mean, the Giants d

517
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Speaker 3: has been problematic, but they're better. They're the best one

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Speaker 3: we mentioned yet I think, so yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: They're fighting, They're not rolling over and Cancun on three

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Speaker 4: just yet.

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Speaker 3: It's not a bad job either. If you like Dart,

522
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Speaker 3: you know, they.

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Speaker 4: Have some nice pieces on defense. They got some nice

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Speaker 4: neighbors coming back.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say Thomas and you know, yeah, uh,

526
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Speaker 2: Cleveland moving up a couple spots.

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Speaker 4: They check in at twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: I think it's safe to have them. Over All these

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Speaker 3: teams mostly based on a defense, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if the Giants are that weren't

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Speaker 2: so banged up, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but like the Jets traded everybody away.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't mind Cleveland in this spot right

534
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Speaker 2: now because I think of all these teams we've named,

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Speaker 2: their defense is the best unit.

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Speaker 3: That's what you say, too, Like if you're talking about

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Speaker 3: the bad teams, if you can at least say something

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Speaker 3: is top ten in the league, Okay, I mean that's something.

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Speaker 3: Their defense is clearly top ten. It might be five.

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Speaker 4: It's just tough to argue at this point.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the offense is I'm not gonna put a

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Speaker 3: lot of stock in one.

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Speaker 2: Game, but you know, the commis the Commanders check in

544
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Speaker 2: at twenty six, Matt, they're three and eight.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty disappointing.

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Speaker 2: After bye week, I think yeah, just kind of staying

547
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Speaker 2: at twenty six. But yeah, it's been a disappointing year

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Speaker 2: for them. They're one of those that can't wait to

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Speaker 2: get to the offseason and burn the tape and put

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Speaker 2: this season by.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious what they do with Daniels with the severity

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Speaker 3: of his injury and all those things too, But just

553
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Speaker 3: shut him down or do you try to get some

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Speaker 3: momentum going in the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Wait and see if we get an answer to that

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Speaker 2: sometime maybe here in the month of December. Cincinnata at

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Speaker 2: twenty six. Joe Burrow now expected, according to sources in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: to return Thursday night against that Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Are you rooting for him, guys?

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Speaker 4: Heck yeah, I love you, dude. You're my favorite quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get Higgins, but you'll get

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Speaker 3: chased back. You'll get Burrow back. Start.

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Speaker 4: That could be enough.

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Speaker 3: I know it's the lowest bar of all time, but

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Speaker 3: it was the best their defense played all year was

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Speaker 3: this past week.

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Speaker 2: With I think without a doubt, then you're right, that

568
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Speaker 2: is the lowest bar of all But that had been

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Speaker 2: a Patriots team that had.

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Speaker 4: Been scoring a lot of points and moving the ball

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Speaker 4: and they frustrated.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, Matt checking in.

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Speaker 2: At number twenty four, they started. This is one for

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Speaker 2: me that I think I'd have these guys.

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Speaker 3: A lot lower.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to beef with the bottom of this list.

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Speaker 3: I really split back games, right.

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Speaker 2: But the Arizona Cardinals checking at twenty four, they started

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Speaker 2: two and zero. They've now lost eight of their last

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Speaker 2: nine games.

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Speaker 3: They just never win. How there's a lot of heartbreakers.

582
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of excuses slash good reasons.

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Speaker 4: I have Cleveland ahead of them. I might even have Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: I think CNSIA think I have the Giants ahead of them,

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Speaker 4: one and eight in their last nine.

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Speaker 3: Said, they just never win. Are they favored in Washington?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Boy, I bet not.

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Speaker 4: That's a good question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet they wouldn't. I'm just thinking of teams

591
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Speaker 3: in that neighborhood, you know, Like, I don't think they

592
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Speaker 3: would be favored against the Commanders.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they never win. Terrible in their last

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Speaker 4: nine games. Yeah, I'm sorry. Eventually you got to start

595
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: falling falling far. Yeah.

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00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: You could be like, oh you lost a squeaker at

597
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Speaker 3: the end, or for.

598
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Speaker 4: The Saints for a while, but like I think I

599
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: take the Saints over the Cardinals in a neutral side matchup.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'm not sure and go that far, but

601
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Speaker 3: they have.

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Speaker 2: Been they have been trailing off the last couple of weeks.

603
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Speaker 2: Vikings checking in at number twenty three.

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Speaker 4: Can coon on three for.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota, Yeah, I mean, I mean they're on the short

606
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Speaker 2: list of I think more disappointing teams in the NFL

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: And what thinks for them is it's one reason yep.

609
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Speaker 3: Everyone else is going to get a year older and

610
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Speaker 3: with a wasted year, you know, like the Justin Jefferson's

611
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Speaker 3: of the world and O'Neill the right tackles, you know,

612
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Speaker 3: like it's why you don't tank, like the Cam Hayward

613
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Speaker 3: can't just afford to throw a.

614
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Speaker 4: Year away, you know what I mean Justin Jefferson.

615
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Speaker 3: Exactly, these guys basically just threw in a year because

616
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Speaker 3: they don't have a quarterback all year.

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Speaker 2: Tough slide in Minnesota. I think right there with the

618
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Speaker 2: Raiders in terms of disappointing teams this season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think the Raiders were going to the playoffs

621
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Speaker 2: or anything. I thought they'd win seven.

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Speaker 4: Or eight games and you know, be better than they've

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Speaker 4: fact they're into some conversation. I thought Minnesota had a

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Speaker 4: chance to win the division.

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Speaker 3: I think like Mac Jones or Kyler Murray ends up

626
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Speaker 3: in the Yesota.

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Speaker 2: Makes a ton of sense. Yeah, checking in just ahead

628
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Speaker 2: of the Vikings. Also at four and seven, three wins

629
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Speaker 2: in their last four games coming out of the bye week.

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Speaker 2: It's the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: I give them credit like they they're not, like they

632
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Speaker 3: saved their season. I don't even know if they saved

633
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Speaker 3: their jobs.

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Speaker 2: But are you ready for this? They're gonna be when

635
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Speaker 2: they come to Pittsburgh here in a few weeks for

636
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Speaker 2: Monday Night Football. Yeah, they're gonna be playing to go

637
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: five hundred in that game. They're four and seven right now.

638
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: They've got the Saints and the Jets in their next two. Wow,

639
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: they'll be six and seven coming here to Monday Night Football.

640
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Speaker 2: And I don't think any of us saw that coming.

641
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Speaker 3: And they maybe not this week, but after they win

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Speaker 3: one more of them, they're going to be in the hunt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I mean, we looked like they were the

644
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Speaker 3: worst team.

645
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Speaker 4: And they were going to fire their be the first

646
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Speaker 4: team to fire their coach back.

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Speaker 3: In right, right, right, right? No, I give them credit

648
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: or they did not throw in the towel at all.

649
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: I mean they traded a couple guys.

650
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Speaker 2: But a team that we thought they might be thrown

651
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Speaker 2: in the towel, they pulled it together and beat the

652
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Speaker 2: Saints on Sunday. The Atlanta Falcons at four and seven,

653
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Speaker 2: Chicken at twenty one. I'd have them lower, I think

654
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: I am in Miamie.

655
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Speaker 3: Miami beats them.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I'd put them ahead of Arizona,

657
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Speaker 4: I'll tell you that, yeah, but I would. I would

658
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Speaker 4: swap them with Miami.

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Speaker 3: Beating the Saints is enough for me to be excited

660
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: about them. Max. Maybe the vision's a nightmare right now.

661
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: After watching Carolina last night, brutal, brutal.

662
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: Brutal, and speaking of which the highest ranked, well, I

663
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: guess Carolina is still going to be ranked higher.

664
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 4: But just in a spot.

665
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh they're both next to.

666
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: At twenty Carolina at nineteen, Tampa Bay falls eight spots.

667
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: That might be a little bit harsh.

668
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: To Memp over all, but again like they're in a

669
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: bad place.

670
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 4: That bad place. What three in a row, I think,

671
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: and four of their last five.

672
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: Guys just keep getting hurt, and they got demolished.

673
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: By the Ram demolish are going to be one would

674
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: be one thing though, if they went and they lost

675
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: the Rams by seven or ten or I mean they

676
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: really in that.

677
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: Game that were game. The Rams are going to be

678
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: one on this list.

679
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm assuming they are too, but down eight spots, Tampa

680
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: Bay by far the lowest they've been at twenty, and

681
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: then Carolina at nineteen.

682
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean Carolina wasn't exactly impressive last night either, No,

683
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean they looked really and.

684
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: Now Tampa is a half game ahead of Carolina.

685
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: I mean Brock Purdy tried to hand them the ball

686
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: several times. Oh boy did he ever out of Tampa

687
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: over Carolina.

688
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: Number eighteen Rising, I'm with you on that, Yeah. Rising

689
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 2: is the Dallas Cowboys at five to five and one

690
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: at number eighteen.

691
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: See who's around them, but I bet i'd have them

692
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: noticeably higher.

693
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: Chargers ahead of them at seventeen. Dallas is right now.

694
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: They might change in two days. I think Dallas is

695
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: playing really well. I think for how they are today,

696
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

697
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: I think Tampa Bay might be the hardest team to

698
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: evaluate in the league right now. Dallas for everyone on YouTube,

699
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: same Church, different pew, but in a good way. For Dallas, hardest.

700
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: To go in their direction. I think they could be

701
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: a real team next year.

702
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: Chargers seventeen. They're tough to evaluate currently because of injury situations.

703
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: And then, Matt, I think i'd put real.

704
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 3: Quick note on the Chargers. I just saw when I

705
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: was getting the water a minute ago. A Marion Hampton's

706
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: window just opened today too, so maybe they'll get him back.

707
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: At least there's some good.

708
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: Be important for them. That'll also be important for my

709
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: fantasy football.

710
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: Team stashing them.

711
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: I've been stashing them for a long time, and you

712
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: had to pay off here checking in at number sixteen. Matt,

713
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: I think right there with Tampa and Dallas is the

714
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: hardest teams to pinpoint right now in the National Football League.

715
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: It's your Pittsburgh Steelers.

716
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been pretty weak the week lately, and therefore

717
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: you can't put a lot of stock in them an

718
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: exercise like this sixteen. You said, yeah, there the league

719
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: league gaverage, right.

720
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: If they were at fourteen, I wouldn't fight it. If

721
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: they were at seventeen, I wouldn't fight it. I think

722
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: right in that kind of mushy middle is where they're

723
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: at right now. It's six and five.

724
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeap, Yeah, I think that's fair.

725
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: Let's see the teams ahead of them. Fifteen the Houston Texans,

726
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

727
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

728
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: They won what like four of their last five and

729
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: should be getting CJ. Stroud back.

730
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

731
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: I like where they're at right now. I mean they

732
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: got some.

733
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: Big two Indy this weekend and then they host Kansas City.

734
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's a tough stretch.

735
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, they're gonna be a tough road to get

736
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 3: to the playoffs. But I like how they're playing right now. Agreed.

737
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 4: Number fourteen the Jacks Jags. They're a tough one for

738
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 4: me because they're Jaguars.

739
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: For that guy on Facebook who keeps sending me nasty

740
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: becuse Jackal how I pronounced the Jaguars.

741
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: There only a game behind the course?

742
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: What this is? Steelers? That's where I'm.

743
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: From, brother, they're only a game behind me.

744
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: Sound like I'm from Boston.

745
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 3: They I guess, you gotta put him ahead of the Steelers.

746
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: You gotta put him ahead of the Chargers. And they

747
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: just crushed the Chargers. They did. I don't really trust

748
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: them though.

749
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 4: They're another tough to evaluate.

750
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the team the middle is always the hardest.

751
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: Number thirteen, the Baltimore Ravens might be a little rich

752
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: for my blood.

753
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might have Houston ahead of them. Ahead of them,

754
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have the Jags.

755
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of questions about Lamar hasn't looked. They're winning,

756
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: but he does not look like himself, right.

757
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: I mean, five game winning streak is a five game

758
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: winning streak, but they don't look like a juggernaut at all.

759
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: Number twelve, This is going to be a fun game

760
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: to play. Kansas City Chiefs check in at twelve. I

761
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: don't hate that either, but I'm interested to see a

762
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: couple teams ahead of them as well, because I don't

763
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: think there's any of the teams behind them that I

764
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: would put ahead of them right now.

765
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: We did a deep dive on the AFC playoff picture,

766
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: and they lose like all tie breakers because the records

767
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: are really bad, bad, so they can't have like ten

768
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: wins tied with the Steelers for a while. Agod they

769
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: got right.

770
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 4: They got an opportunity to beat Houston, which would help

771
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: them in this.

772
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Help them a lot, but they can probably afford to

773
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: lose like one more game. Yeah, yeah, I mean if

774
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: they were lost of cold.

775
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 4: They've still got the Chargers again, They've still got the

776
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: Broncos again.

777
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: They could lose in Dallas and Dallas.

778
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 4: Right, they're in a better spot than last week.

779
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: But man, do you imagine the playoffs without the Chiefs?

780
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: Very well? Could happen?

781
00:33:54,920 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: It very well could happen. Kelsey and his Swans not

782
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: making the postseason. You can get back on tour with

783
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Taylor quicker.

784
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: You know what I heard today is they expect Chiefs

785
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: at Dallas on Thanksgiving to be the most viewed game

786
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: in NFL history, regular sazor season.

787
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly possible.

788
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure Taylor will be there or whatever too,

789
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: which helps.

790
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: Certainly possible.

791
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder because you we all know this. The

792
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 2: sports viewership numbers just from like the seventies and the

793
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: eighties when there were only five channels on TV and

794
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: not much to watch. Like you look at some of

795
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: the numbers of some of the Super Bowls and some

796
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: of the National Championship game like it'll never be tough.

797
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: The nineteen seventy nine college basketball National Championship game between

798
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: Michigan State and Magic in Indiana State and Larry Bird.

799
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: There's never going to be another college basketball game that

800
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: even comes close to that one, Okay, because because of

801
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: some of the underlying let's be honest, some of the

802
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: underlying racial storylines and that too, and because there were

803
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: only five things on TV.

804
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: At the game.

805
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know your four picks, So that's

806
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: better than all of them.

807
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: That's the only thing that in my mind worked against it.

808
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: But I certainly think it's going to do a massive

809
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 2: all time.

810
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. On Thanksgiving the.

811
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 2: Saks giving two of the biggest brands, right, Chiefs who

812
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: have been the NFL forefront for the last decade, the

813
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: Cowboys who were always in that realm and playing really

814
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: well right now, Yes, you throw in the swifty factor

815
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: number eleven. The Chicago Bears up to up three spots,

816
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: part of me moving to eight and three. They've won

817
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 2: seven of their last eight games as they take down

818
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: the Stellars.

819
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you knows how Warren Sharp does his strength of

820
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: schedule stuff, and so they've basically had the easiest schedule

821
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: to date and they have the second hardest one from

822
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 3: now on now the rest of the way, So it's

823
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: rubber hitting the road for them all of a sudden.

824
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: I love what they're how they're playing, but we also

825
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 3: broke down the NFC playoff picture, and with the Niners

826
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 3: winning last night, they're at like ninety two percent to go,

827
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: which basically means Ram Seattle Niners are in and that

828
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: only leaves two teams in the So it's going to

829
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: be a real battle between Packers and Lions, who played

830
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: yep Thursday, which is awesome.

831
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 4: Good games on Thursday.

832
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: And I bet the Bears are going to be the

833
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: third one, the one looking.

834
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 4: Out, you know, even at eight and three.

835
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: I know, if you look at their upcoming.

836
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: Slate, it's it is really tough.

837
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 3: But that doesn't influence where're putting Power Rise today.

838
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: Number ten.

839
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills down three spots, Matt. They started four

840
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: and oh they have since lost four of their last seven.

841
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 2: Not looking like the Buffalo that we've seen the last

842
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: few years.

843
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: They're very formidable, and we'll talk about them a ton

844
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: the next.

845
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 4: Are also coming off a few extra days of rest

846
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 4: for the Stealers.

847
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: I don't love it. Yeah, I haven't seen their injury stuff,

848
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: but I'm sure it's better than the Steelers all things considered.

849
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're better than the Bears, though,

850
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: how they're playing right this minute, none, they're both next

851
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: to each other.

852
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: That's a little you're giving them a little Josh Allen

853
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: in past history benefit of.

854
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which I I mean a lot of

855
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: that's warranted.

856
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: Of course, but that's also kind of the point of

857
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: power rankings is the right here, I probably swapped them

858
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: with Chicago.

859
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. Number nine to the top

860
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: ten the San Francisco forty nine ers, Matt. Somehow, despite

861
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 4: despite being decimated on defense, despite three Brock Party interceptions,

862
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: the Niners moved eight.

863
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: And four and just keep winning. Man, They're impressive. Shanahan

864
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: deserves a ton of credit.

865
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Ton of credit, and so does Robert Salah. You got

866
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: a former head coach. That was a great play with

867
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: the team that they grabbed the defenses, all backups and rookies.

868
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: And I know Carolina's offense isn't great, but that Panther

869
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 3: offense couldn't do a thing.

870
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 4: No, no, it could not. It was frustrated all night long.

871
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 4: Number eight the Detroit Lions, overtime winners over the Giants.

872
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: They moved to seven and four. I don't know, Matt

873
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 4: that might be a little too high for me. They

874
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: deserve They're a team that deserves benefit of the doubt.

875
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 4: But again, if you're talking just now power rankings, I.

876
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: Wasn't the best performance performance that's especially defensively.

877
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: Was that in New York? Was that in Detroit? I

878
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: thought that was in Detroit.

879
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 3: I was in Detroit.

880
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: I think it was in Detroit. Thinking not computing good team,

881
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: dangerous team. I might have them a couple of spots lower,

882
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: but I'm not.

883
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: Them versus Packers is a tough one for me. Packers

884
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: are at seven, Okay, have them right next to each other.

885
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what.

886
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: Order Eagles falling three spots, checking in at number six

887
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: after a wow blowing a twenty one point lead to

888
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: their arch rival Dallas Cowboys. I was gonna say bumping

889
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: the road or is there maybe some real issues for

890
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: the Iggles.

891
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: I worry if they can win the Super Bowl, not like,

892
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: can they win the division or are they going to,

893
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: you know, win a playoff game or so. I don't

894
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: know that offense can win the Super Bowl.

895
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: They are not running the football nearly as effectively as

896
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: they did last year, and the past game continues.

897
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 3: To be an lines not dominant. Past game is an

898
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: issue and the loss of coordinator hurt them a lot.

899
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: Highest We've seen the New England Patriots checking in at

900
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: number five nine straight wins, ten and two. But I

901
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: tell you what, Sunday didn't feel like all that impressive. No,

902
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: you lose Will Campbell in the process as well.

903
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the beginning of the end or anything,

904
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: but I am curious what they look like the next

905
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: go right.

906
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: They need to get Milton Williams back and healthy.

907
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: YELP way be helpful, but they.

908
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 2: Are tending to and continue to win nine straight. Number

909
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: four down a couple of spots after that loss of

910
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.

911
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 4: It's the Colts.

912
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: I'd have them over the Chiefs. So yeah, people have.

913
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 4: A little rich for my blood. At four.

914
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: I might have them closer to six or seven. But

915
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: I still think they're a really good team. But I

916
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: think the Chiefs prove that if you can, if you

917
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: can stymy that run game and make them th same

918
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: thing the Steelers did. If you can stymy that run

919
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: game and make them have to throw the ball, win

920
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: on first and second down, make them have to throw

921
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: the ball on long situations, you got shot, you can

922
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 2: cause them some issues.

923
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 3: Yep. I think they have both their games against Houston

924
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: and Jacksonville still on the slate. If not that Soria

925
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: the four sounds right, I mean, so that division is

926
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: far from settled as strong as they started.

927
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: See here they have the Texans coming up, and then

928
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: they have the Jags, and then they go to Seattle,

929
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Jacksonville, Houston.

930
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: Goodness. Yeah, that's rough because they had a really easy

931
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: schedule hard and now they're like the Bears.

932
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you take it back a week coming out

933
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 2: of their by they go they go to Kansas City,

934
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: then they host Houston, then they go to Jacksonville, and

935
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: then they go to Seattle. Then they host the Niners,

936
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: and they host the Jags, and they host the Texans.

937
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 2: They get the last three at home, which is big,

938
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: but that's a playoff teams, really good teams the rest

939
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: of the.

940
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 3: Way, and four of them are for the division. I mean,

941
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: they're the I mean, they're the top teams in your division.

942
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: Oh that's tough. That's tough for Indy.

943
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 3: They they I mean, I think they early.

944
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: In the schedule when they needed to, and I do

945
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: still think they make the playoffs, but.

946
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: Like on Power Ranking Tuesday, this might be the highest

947
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: they are.

948
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Might be the highest they are the rest of the way.

949
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: They got some losses ahead of them.

950
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: Checking in at number three and number one in the

951
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: a f C. It's the nine and two Denver Broncos.

952
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: I guess, I mean, I kind of think that's just

953
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: the shows that the AFC is for the taking, if

954
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,479
Speaker 3: that's your best team for the taking.

955
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: It is funny coming into this season, we thought the

956
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: NFC was for the taking and wide open, and that

957
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: the NFC or the NFC was drilled down.

958
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: You got the Chiefs, you got the Bells, you got

959
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 4: the Ravens Burrow Bar where it was like the NFC

960
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, we know the Eagles are going to

961
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: be great, but you know, Lions are probably going to

962
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 4: be great.

963
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: But after that it was a lot of unknown. Yeah,

964
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of flip flopped.

965
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 4: Whereas the AFC feels wide open, the NFC feels like

966
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: murderers friggin row.

967
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: Could one team in the AFC, maybe the Steelers, you know,

968
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: just get really hot the rest of the way, and

969
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 3: you know, right, Houston Texans, the teams ahead of you

970
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: aren't great right.

971
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 2: Now, Kansas City Chiefs, as much as I hate to

972
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: say it, although that wouldn't surprise anybody because they I

973
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, don't say that.

974
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: Man, they're not showing signs of it.

975
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 4: But number two, the Seattle Seahawks.

976
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 3: They're two.

977
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: They are two.

978
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Rams at one. Okay, I'm cool with that,

979
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 3: I am yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty equal battle

980
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: despite Darnold throwing a bunch of picks, and Seattle's really good.

981
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: And then you know the Rams coming off that big

982
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: win against Seattle, they blow out Tampa Bay, which is impressive.

983
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: Uh.

984
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is maybe the easiest point to

985
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: pick the number one team. Yeah, in the least the

986
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 3: last couple of months. I'm this late in the year usually.

987
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: You know, completely with you on that one. Maybe since

988
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: the first couple weeks of the season, when like the

989
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 2: Bills were still light in the world on fire.

990
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Eagles were still light.

991
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think right now it's clearly I would

992
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: be shocked if anybody out there wanted to make a

993
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: compelling case for anybody else at number one besides I.

994
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: Am rambiatle Rams Part two though, and maybe even part three.

995
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: Same that'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, it'd be

996
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: a lot of fun.

997
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: We'll wrap this thing up on the other side when

998
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: we return West Wheeler. Matt Williamson, it's the Drive on

999
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers' audio network, your tunes.

1000
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

1001
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

1002
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: All right, Matt, we got about ninety seconds to close

1003
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 2: this thing down after a couple of beefy two beefy segment.

1004
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 4: I mean we're talking like beefy five layer segments there.

1005
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 3: They got a little bit of breaking news. It's super

1006
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: quick that bills just signed Brandon Cooks. That wouldn't bring

1007
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 3: it upf it wasn't the bills. But okay, okay, and

1008
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm not like disappointed.

1009
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting more into that tomorrow, Matt. I like this

1010
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 4: tweet from AJ. You know, I like these type of

1011
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: kind of open ended conversational tweets. So AJ wants to know,

1012
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 4: start bench cut on a couple of debates here, start

1013
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: bench cut Herbert May Nicks. That one's pretty easy, cutting Nicks,

1014
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 4: cutting Nicks, starting May right now.

1015
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I'm letting.

1016
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: Herbertly cutting Nicks. That's the easy part of conversation. But

1017
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: I think I'll start May and bench Herbert. But that

1018
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: one there's no wrong answer, right, Oh no, Aj, why

1019
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 2: are you gonna do this to us? Start bench cut

1020
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, Michael Parsons, t J.

1021
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: Watt.

1022
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 4: Now we're skipping that one, all right. We don't want

1023
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: death threats. In the comments on number three, Pickens, Smith

1024
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: and Jigba, I'm on Ross Saint Brown. Oh, that's a

1025
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: really good one.

1026
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: Starting Smith and.

1027
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Pickens off the bench.

1028
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: Pickens on the bench, cutting Saint browne.

1029
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 4: Player, you'll ever cut?

1030
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: But right, but preseason would be the opposite.

1031
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: But there's not many that I would start over Pickens

1032
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: right now. But I think Jackson Smith and Jigbas.

1033
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I think he's wide receiver one for the season. He's

1034
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: had the best year of any wide.

1035
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: If I'm still if I have a game on Sunday

1036
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 2: that I have to win, I still want Jamar Chase,

1037
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: But I.

1038
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 3: Think the better football right now.

1039
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: It's tough to argue against JSN and Pickens.

1040
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: They may have had the best two years of any

1041
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: receivers in the league.

1042
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I think they have. And last one to

1043
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: kind of tee us up for some Thanksgiving talk. Maybe

1044
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: we'll do a little bit more of that. Maybe I

1045
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: didn't even think about this. Maybe best of Best of

1046
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: the West should have been a thank topic. Maybe we'll

1047
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: do a little bit of both statues and turkey start

1048
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: bench cut, cranberry sauce, mashed potatoes, stuffing.

1049
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: Oh, cranberry sauce gets cut all day long.

1050
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 4: Brother, we are on the same page.

1051
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: And I don't even like hate cranberry sauce, but it's

1052
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: to me, it's not an if I if I showed

1053
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: up to Thanksgiving on Thursday and we didn't have cranberry sauce,

1054
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be that bothered.

1055
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: I never even touch it, and it's just weird to me.

1056
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: It's this gelatinous mess.

1057
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: I usually like either late Thursday night when it's like

1058
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: halftime of the late football game, or like I might

1059
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: do a little bit of cranberry sauce late Thursday night

1060
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: or Friday morning or something just to change a palette.

1061
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: But it kind of doesn't go with the other things.

1062
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: It's easy to cut for me. Everything's kind of the

1063
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: same color and that's red, and it just doesn't look

1064
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: the same. And I don't want my gravy hitting it.

1065
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: By accident. And you know, like I've stuffing's won.

1066
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: I've never met a spud in my life that I

1067
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: don't like. Sure, but just for the exercise of Thanksgiving,

1068
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: stuffing is starting because it's the only time of year

1069
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: I eat stuffing. I eat mashed potatoes all the time, like.

1070
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Once in a while, Okay, I don't, but oh we love.

1071
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: Mash pot we do like.

1072
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: We'll have them once a week if we're doing like

1073
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 2: steaks or a lot of times. My wife has been

1074
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: doing this rotissery chicken, okay, and then do like and

1075
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: then do it with like because the girls love this.

1076
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: Do it with like a like a like in a

1077
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: bowl with like mashed potatoes or mac and cheese or.

1078
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 3: Something like that. I could get it like or something

1079
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: like a bowl.

1080
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 4: Exact stuff exactly like pull apart the rotissery chicken and

1081
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 4: put it on top of.

1082
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: Some get they getting? But yeah, stuffings number.

1083
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 4: One, I'm starting stuffing potato.

1084
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 3: Who Thanksgiving side stuff agreed, especially your little sausage involved.

1085
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: Let's get into that a little bit more tomorrow. But good,

1086
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 2: good question there from aj Happy Thanksgiving UH to everybody.

1087
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: We will we got to do some more Thanksgiving conversation.

1088
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: Bring it on, guys.

1089
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like if you if you work in football radio,

1090
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: you gotta do Hall of Fame conversation from time to time,

1091
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: you gotta do Thanksgiving conversation.

1092
00:46:59,760 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

1093
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: Great stuff. Today, fellas had a lot of fun. Big

1094
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: thanks to Chris Adamski for joining us. Shout out to

1095
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 2: Tyler V mister TV our video producer, and a big

1096
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: thank you as always to the Oracle himself, Matt Williamson.

1097
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: I'm Wes Huhler. Take care everybody. We will talk to

1098
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: you tomorrow to get all you fix's ready for Thanksgiving.

1099
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: As always, you know where to find us. It's on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold.

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