Speaker 1: Hi, guys.
Speaker 2: This is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by my friend
Speaker 2: Emily Simpson for our new spin off show Popping Off,
Speaker 2: where we are digging deep on this season of Banner
Speaker 2: Pump Rules. All right, guys, welcome to another episode of
Speaker 2: Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. We are excited.
Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, between this and the twats
Speaker 2: the amount of headlines and things that have gone down
Speaker 2: in the last I don't know, forty eight hours.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in the Battle world, a lot in the
Speaker 1: Bravo world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking you had a lot to talk about
Speaker 1: in your other podcast, your other headlines.
Speaker 2: I was like, for like, and I feel like, at
Speaker 2: any second, somebody else is going to get fired and
Speaker 2: I'm going to have missed it and it's going to
Speaker 2: be right after a pod and then I'm like, holy shit.
Speaker 2: And then that led me to another question. If you
Speaker 2: were to get fired, yes, how would you announce it?
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a good question, And I think first
Speaker 1: of all, I would be honest. I wouldn't be one
Speaker 1: of those people where it's like, well, I just decided
Speaker 1: that it was time for me to move on, I
Speaker 1: would just be honest about it. Okay, they didn't ask
Speaker 1: me to come back. And you know, I always told Shane,
Speaker 1: when the stay comes, because this day will come eventually.
Speaker 1: It just happens to all of us. At some point.
Speaker 1: You expire at some point. I always said, just give
Speaker 1: me like a week to just kind of like process
Speaker 1: it and be sad, because it's sad. It's like the
Speaker 1: end of an era, the end of something you've done
Speaker 1: for a long time. And then I feel like I'll
Speaker 1: be happy and relieved and excited to move on and
Speaker 1: do something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it. You'll go through different different stages of grief, happiness,
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. Right, Yeah, there is always that
Speaker 2: like first part of rejection where like your feelings are
Speaker 2: almost hurt.
Speaker 1: Well, of course your feelings get hurt. They basically say
Speaker 1: you're not what sit are done with, You are screen anymore.
Speaker 1: So I mean there's no way to feel good about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So even if it's not something you really enjoy
Speaker 2: doing anymore in your life, it's still that, like any
Speaker 2: form of rejection is hard exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know, to the women out there, the housewives
Speaker 1: who have actually liked did Candice actually quit because didn't
Speaker 1: she announce before the reunion that she wasn't coming back?
Speaker 1: So I assume she quit. Is that what you think?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's a pretty good chance that
Speaker 2: she quit. But something that we talked about on Twatz
Speaker 2: was at right before the reunion on Potomac, they said
Speaker 2: to her, we don't want you to be so vitriolic
Speaker 2: or whatever it is this reunion. And then as she's leaving,
Speaker 2: she walks out and she says, you really want me
Speaker 2: to be friends with this and looks at Giselle.
Speaker 1: So I think what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Like in this situation is regardless of somebody's quitting or not,
Speaker 2: which quitting before, like at if you're pregnant does make
Speaker 2: sense to me, right because especially with your first work,
Speaker 2: you may probably want to enjoy that, like even with
Speaker 2: the third was hard. But I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: you ever one hundred percent know. Andy did say, and
Speaker 2: one person supposedly quit and one person.
Speaker 1: Supposedly got or got fired.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andy said he thinks he will see them both
Speaker 2: back on Potomac. So I feel like they both may
Speaker 2: have gotten a talking to and one may have taken
Speaker 2: that talking to to say go kick rocks, and then
Speaker 2: the other one.
Speaker 1: Just you know, said I'll just take time off. Yeah
Speaker 1: what you mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Has there ever been a housewife
Speaker 1: that's actually quit, Well, not showing up to a reunion
Speaker 1: means that you quit, Bethany, So Bethany Bethany quit LVP,
Speaker 1: did not show up to a reunion. Okay, that's so
Speaker 1: that was Lisa Vanner Pump that didn't show up.
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone that's not extremely wealthy has ever.
Speaker 2: Did Lydia actually walk away her first season of OC
Speaker 2: or is that what just was rumored?
Speaker 1: I heard that she asked for a lot more money
Speaker 1: going into her second season, so they told her to
Speaker 1: go kick rocks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would make sense too. I think
Speaker 2: also when people think that they're going to get more
Speaker 2: than like whatever the standard, right, especially when you're in.
Speaker 1: Your first one, two, three, four seasons, I don't really
Speaker 1: feel like you have a negotiating power, no, and especially
Speaker 1: when you're Lydia or that.
Speaker 2: Sorry, was that an asshole.
Speaker 1: Thing to say that?
Speaker 2: I mean maybe they did end up having her back
Speaker 2: at another point in time, but I don't think they
Speaker 2: probably paid her tons more money to do so, but
Speaker 2: is what it is. But speaking of being fired at
Speaker 2: one point in time, this first headline is the Valley Star.
Speaker 2: Jack's tail walks back on his claims that vander Pump
Speaker 2: Rules is scripted, according to Deadline, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: so good, this is I love it so As you know,
Speaker 2: I have a big mouth and it gets me in
Speaker 2: trouble from time to time, Taylor said on the latest
Speaker 2: episode of When Reality Hits podcast, which he hosts with
Speaker 2: his wife, Britney Cartwright. Cartwright noted that she was not
Speaker 2: present at the bar where he hosted a viewing party
Speaker 2: for the show, adding, do not group me in with
Speaker 2: what he says. Jack's admitted certain people on the show
Speaker 2: may rub me the wrong way from time to time,
Speaker 2: but I should have never trashed the show like that.
Speaker 2: Vander Pump has been and continues to be incredible TV,
Speaker 2: and I will always stand by that. As many of
Speaker 2: you know and have seen, I can overreact impulsively and
Speaker 2: I just wanted to apologize for all that. I'm sorry, guys,
Speaker 2: that was very wrong of me, he added. Honestly, couldn't
Speaker 2: have been more wrong. It's the most authentic show out there.
Speaker 2: There's nothing scripted it. You can't script this stuff.
Speaker 1: I love how it's not just like an apology like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I shouldn't have said that. It's like an
Speaker 1: apology that's like I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.
Speaker 1: It's the best television show on TV. It's amazing, it's iconic.
Speaker 1: I was so wrong. Like, clear clearly he got in
Speaker 1: some trouble.
Speaker 2: Like, clearly he got in some trouble. But the way
Speaker 2: that he is so excited about vander Pump been talking that,
Speaker 2: it almost sounds like he's being facetious, like shore buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like now you're seeming a little over the top with
Speaker 2: your right, like you want me to apologize?
Speaker 1: All right, here you go. I'm sorry. It's the best
Speaker 1: show ever. It's not scripted, scripted, what how do you
Speaker 1: script this stuff? Wait? Is this a dumb question? But
Speaker 1: does this mean that he's doing a podcast with his
Speaker 1: wife when they're no longer together? Yes, so like they're separated. Hey, attention,
Speaker 1: I'm a I've been filming a TV show. Oh is
Speaker 1: that shade? Yes?
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: I don't have time to sit around and look at
Speaker 1: all this instagram headlined like you do?
Speaker 2: Oh? Right. I know, it's just oh, it's just so effortless.
Speaker 2: But yes, no, they do a podcast together. They've also
Speaker 2: been doing press together but doing press separately where we
Speaker 2: got a lot of information.
Speaker 1: So Jack said Sena was an quote absentee parent at
Speaker 1: that same event, Shena responded, Jax made a disgusting comment
Speaker 1: about me and was saying some untrue things about Vanner
Speaker 1: Pump rules. But what bothered me the most was he
Speaker 1: was at his self named bar Jax's seemingly drunk, probably
Speaker 1: had a lot of pasta that's in quotes that night
Speaker 1: to eat, and he said he had the audacity to
Speaker 1: say that I'm always out partying and leaving my child
Speaker 1: to be raised by my mother. But also it's just
Speaker 1: so far from the truth and he should know this,
Speaker 1: She continued, starting to cry. Ninety five percent of the
Speaker 1: time when i'm Ali usually is a word thing, and
Speaker 1: it's also after I put my kid to bed, and
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating because I'm like, yes, I do do
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, and I do go out often,
Speaker 1: but I can't make plans before nine pm. And if
Speaker 1: that means I'm going to be tired the next day,
Speaker 1: I'm still going to wake up and with my kid
Speaker 1: in the court.
Speaker 2: So I mean, one, I hate that she has to
Speaker 2: defend herself or working or going out or whatever it
Speaker 2: may be. I just think of all the parents, all
Speaker 2: the people to judge somebody's parenting. Jack's maybe this isn't
Speaker 2: year realm.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. And you know, when you're on a show,
Speaker 1: you're obligated to do a lot of press and do
Speaker 1: a lot of things. I mean, I have mom guilt too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did as well. Yeah, but that's it's
Speaker 1: a career. It's you do have to do a lot
Speaker 1: of things. You do have to do press, you do
Speaker 1: have to be seen, you do have to answer questions
Speaker 1: and be out and about. But I think that she
Speaker 1: has a good point that a lot of things she
Speaker 1: does is after the kid goes to bed, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know, she wakes up the next morning with no
Speaker 1: matter how tired you are, that's what you do as
Speaker 1: a mom.
Speaker 2: And also I think the part that you know, people
Speaker 2: can fite back on as being like, oh well no,
Speaker 2: she was at Coachella, that's not work. But what everybody
Speaker 2: has to remember is these events, like I don't even
Speaker 2: know what event she was at But let's say it's
Speaker 2: the Celsius event at Coachella. Most likely, if there are
Speaker 2: people there from reality television at those events, it's because
Speaker 2: it's a sponsored event and they are being paid to
Speaker 2: be there, right, So.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was Celsius. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I saw so much Coachella content that I like blacked
Speaker 2: it all out. But you have to make it. If
Speaker 2: you solely are making money from doing a television show
Speaker 2: and you don't figure out other ways to bring income,
Speaker 2: generate income, you're going to run out of money. So
Speaker 2: you have to take the opportunities that you are given
Speaker 2: while you are given them, exactly. Like I just feel like,
Speaker 2: clearly Jax was on a good one that night. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was the pasta, but I do
Speaker 2: think like, okay, so let's get back.
Speaker 1: To the PASA. Didn't Rachel Raquel on a podcast, didn't
Speaker 1: she confirm that passa was actually passive? And now she
Speaker 1: is saying Pasa isn't really pasta?
Speaker 2: Well, and then I feel like Lala once said that
Speaker 2: pasta was positive, but then maybe Rachel said pasta no.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do we believe Rachel about everything? Though?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess she's not a very valid source
Speaker 1: of information, so maybe not, but or maybe PASA has
Speaker 1: just become the code word for other things, regardless of
Speaker 1: what it meant originally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, maybe they were pissed about the bolognais originally,
Speaker 2: but I mean they all have said it really is pasta.
Speaker 2: But I think she's just the same way that in
Speaker 2: this episode she does a song about the Jedda and
Speaker 2: the blah blah blah, like alluding to whatever. Like I
Speaker 2: don't think she was doing any eluding. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: implying if you just say it explicitly. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: but I do think that Jack's probably has the personality
Speaker 2: type when he is drunk at his bar and some
Speaker 2: and everybody's up there, like, you know, fanning over him.
Speaker 2: If that's what's happening, he is going to just put
Speaker 2: on a show and say whatever shit he can say
Speaker 2: about anybody. Like, I don't think he's thinking about the repercussions.
Speaker 2: But I thought that him and Shea were friends. So
Speaker 2: that's where it's a little bit confusing to me. Well
Speaker 2: clearly not now, well clearly not now. But I just
Speaker 2: I don't know why he even needed to say that.
Speaker 1: It just yuck.
Speaker 2: It gave me the yuck. But then also her sena
Speaker 2: blowing up what pasta is is also confusing to me.
Speaker 2: So now I need we need to really talk to
Speaker 2: Katie when she comes on about pasta.
Speaker 1: I feel like she'll tell us the truth. You want
Speaker 1: to get a real clear answer on the pasta.
Speaker 2: Yes, and if it is pasta, what kind of pasta
Speaker 2: was it? Was it? Seely?
Speaker 1: Was it pennae?
Speaker 2: Was it spaghetti? Like?
Speaker 1: What pasta was.
Speaker 2: On? Was it mac and cheese? I mean, what are
Speaker 2: we really talking about here? Does it have truffles on it? Like?
Speaker 2: I need to know, like how upset we could get
Speaker 2: over a pasta? Because I could get pretty upset over
Speaker 2: a pasta? Well I would too, absolutely, Yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: don't want people taking bites of something that I really
Speaker 2: thinks delicious exactly.
Speaker 1: Oh god, gosh, those are fighting actions.
Speaker 2: That is a fighting action. This next one, this was
Speaker 2: hard for me. This was a hard one for me.
Speaker 2: Joe appearing on the Rachel Goes Rogue podcast and talks
Speaker 2: about the singles to night she went to a shorts. Okay,
Speaker 2: my first question is because I have not listened to
Speaker 2: the Rachel goes roe podcast, but I'm assuming one of
Speaker 2: the producers on this pod probably does, so maybe they
Speaker 2: can shed some light on This is her podcast recapping
Speaker 2: vander Pump Rules. Yes, okay, this is where I am
Speaker 2: really confused. I know we are going to be talking
Speaker 2: about Joe and whatnot, and I realized that I am
Speaker 2: no longer on a television show and I am recapping
Speaker 2: these shows. That being said, I never went to a
Speaker 2: mental health facility to get over the trauma that I
Speaker 2: had on the said television show, nor were there any
Speaker 2: lawsuits filed nor any of those things. I really am
Speaker 2: having a hard time wrapping my head around somebody wanting
Speaker 2: to free themselves of this negativity, of this life, of
Speaker 2: these things that happened, and then recapping it on their
Speaker 2: podcast talking about these people.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's basically inserting yourself back into their lives
Speaker 1: but from a safe distance. But how is that healthy?
Speaker 1: Because everyone is going to hear it and comments on it. Now.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're watching Sandoval listen to all four episodes
Speaker 1: or whatever of her podcast and then reacting to it.
Speaker 1: It's like she's like the wizard behind the curtain, you
Speaker 1: know that, like get the comments on everything and watch it,
Speaker 1: but then also say she can't be involved in it
Speaker 1: because of mental health issues. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: I guess it's her way to get her narrative across
Speaker 2: without actually getting in the dirt with the cast.
Speaker 1: But is that sure?
Speaker 2: I don't know. But I also I think if you're
Speaker 2: gonna I understand why she wanted to do the first
Speaker 2: four talking about Tom and talking about her experience, But
Speaker 2: then I thought the podcast was going to move on
Speaker 2: from vander Pump rules and talk about other things and
Speaker 2: whether she is or she isn't. I just find it
Speaker 2: odd stating the things that she has stated, and it
Speaker 2: makes me, well, then I it made me because you know,
Speaker 2: I have all this time on my hands. According to Emily,
Speaker 2: it made me go on to the Rachel Goes Rogue
Speaker 2: Instagram page and read the comments and what did you learn?
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people are eating her.
Speaker 1: Alive in these comments.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I thought you wanted to be done
Speaker 2: with the toxicity, So why are we talking? Why are
Speaker 2: you talking about it? I brand the toxicity. I'll do
Speaker 2: anything for pay, So you want to pay me, I'm
Speaker 2: open to doing it. But to say I want to
Speaker 2: be done with it and then talking about it.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. So you think she's a hypocrite
Speaker 1: because she says she's not able to be on the
Speaker 1: show because she wants away from the toxicity, but then
Speaker 1: she inserts herself back in it and allows people to
Speaker 1: comment and react, which is all toxic.
Speaker 2: And then as Joe appear on the pod, where not
Speaker 2: only does Joe talk about Schwartz, she also talks about Tom,
Speaker 2: Like even the conversation about the singles event where Joe's like,
Speaker 2: sorry to say this in funny you and then Rachel's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't care, but like we were there to support
Speaker 2: Sandoval on his singles night, and then they like are
Speaker 2: recapping the dates and if Rachel's still in rehat, like
Speaker 2: all of it is just but these are the big
Speaker 2: takeaways that I got. Joe claims that Schwartz told her
Speaker 2: off camera that he was going to take a yellow
Speaker 2: or a red wristband at Singles Night, indicating he's taken
Speaker 2: or it's complicated, but when they got there, he asked
Speaker 2: for a green wrist band out of nowhere. Then Joe
Speaker 2: was protective over the hat he almost gave to that
Speaker 2: girl because it's a special hat that his dad gave
Speaker 2: to him. She says he lied about having more in storage.
Speaker 2: Then she says that she and Shorts were dating at
Speaker 2: the time and she was staying at his apartment the
Speaker 2: whole time. He came home that night and lied about
Speaker 2: kissing anyone, so Joe had to find out from production
Speaker 2: months later when she did her confessional. But then Joe
Speaker 2: said two different things on this podcast. She first said
Speaker 2: I was already in bed sleeping in the extra bedroom
Speaker 2: when he got home. But then she said something along
Speaker 2: the lines of like, well, I was walking the dogs
Speaker 2: and did this and blah blah blah, and like Joe,
Speaker 2: the first sign is if you walk into a singles
Speaker 2: thing and the guy that you think you're dating puts
Speaker 2: on a he's single. You don't need to stay any
Speaker 2: longer and manage his hat or his hair or anything else.
Speaker 1: You need to move out. You need you need to
Speaker 1: not stay there. You need to stop sleeping with him.
Speaker 2: You need to stop sleeping with him, you need to
Speaker 2: stop coloring his hair, you need to stop walking his dogs.
Speaker 2: You need to maybe not say how much you love
Speaker 2: him and what a r time Brent she is on Instagram.
Speaker 2: And then go on Rachel's podcast and talk about him
Speaker 2: and what a liar he is.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Oh Joe, Yo Joe.
Speaker 2: But Joe didn't do any of this. I saw on
Speaker 2: any of the clips. No, any of the clips that
Speaker 2: was that was confusing to me.
Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz has openly started dating a twenty three year
Speaker 1: old Sophia Scorro, and their eighteen year age gap is
Speaker 1: not stopping Shorts from gushing about his new girlfriend. In
Speaker 1: an interview with Access Hollywood, Schwartz opened up about Scorro
Speaker 1: and how she's not just his new girlfriend. She also
Speaker 1: has a vintage clothing store, Short said, shop so Scope.
Speaker 1: But he also talked about what makes her so special
Speaker 1: and why he's dating her, saying she's just really effing cool.
Speaker 1: She's charismatic and clever and kind of unconventionally funny. He
Speaker 1: even admitted, so, I saw her photo. If she's twenty three,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three because she looks eleven.
Speaker 2: She I mean, I was, she looked like she could
Speaker 2: be slates age. She looks so young. He also says
Speaker 2: she's way cooler than me, and even though he is
Speaker 2: still going through his breakup with Joe, Weinberg over their situationship.
Speaker 1: He is apparently very happy.
Speaker 2: I'm happy, said, it's kind of new and exciting, and
Speaker 2: I kind of feel at peace for the first time
Speaker 2: in a long time. It's been really pleasant. She's just
Speaker 2: a bad ass human being. Do we think this is
Speaker 2: why Joe has gone rogue and went on the pod
Speaker 2: and said all these things because she's pissed about Soasco
Speaker 2: and the unconventionally being funny and.
Speaker 1: Absolutely now see mystery salved. She was happy to defend him,
Speaker 1: and then now she knows that like he was making
Speaker 1: out with people at singles night, and I think she
Speaker 1: realized that he was never really into her. That she
Speaker 1: put a lot of time effort into this relationship hoping
Speaker 1: that there was going to be something between them at
Speaker 1: the end, and when she realized that there was a
Speaker 1: lot of investment on her part and none on his,
Speaker 1: She's like, f off, Now I'm going to go on
Speaker 1: this podcast and talk about what a liar you are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine that at this point. Do
Speaker 1: you think they have a friendly relationship at all?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't. I don't know how. It's
Speaker 2: kind of hard. I think even seeing Haitie and Shortz
Speaker 2: to have an unfriendly relationship with him because he pretends
Speaker 2: to be just such a puppy dog. Whether he is
Speaker 2: or he is not, I don't know, but I do
Speaker 2: think he told Joe repeatedly he did not want to
Speaker 2: be in a relationship with her.
Speaker 1: I think so too, But I think that he continues
Speaker 1: to allow her to live there, and I think he
Speaker 1: also says I love you while he's also saying I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in a relationship with you, and
Speaker 1: then they sleep together.
Speaker 2: Joe also says that when he gets drunk, he likes
Speaker 2: to make out with people, which then I'm like, Joe,
Speaker 2: if you know this, you know that means that also
Speaker 2: can be you. Like, when he gets drunk, he wanted
Speaker 2: to hook up with you, right, Like, I think that
Speaker 2: goes all the ways. But yeah, I was finding it
Speaker 2: just a little interesting. I was like, what happened to
Speaker 2: that Instagram post where she said I'll love you no
Speaker 2: matter what? What did she call him again? Tea money?
Speaker 1: T money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, money, and he calls her Joseph.
Speaker 1: Joseph. That's very sexy. That's what I would want to
Speaker 1: be called as a female. Joseph Joseph like Emiliano for
Speaker 1: me great, I'd love it if Shane called me.
Speaker 2: That Emilio get over here.
Speaker 1: So who knows?
Speaker 2: I have a feeling if Vandon Pump Rules comes around again,
Speaker 2: we'll see Sophia. But in the meantime, we're going to
Speaker 2: be watching this situationship. I'm guessing more throughout Vandon Pump Rules.
Speaker 2: Right now, we are recapping season eleven, episode twelve. The
Speaker 2: episode starts off with Sheena at Kyle Chan's store to
Speaker 2: shoot a new music video for Good as Gold featuring
Speaker 2: the twenty sevens. Arion and Lalla show up. They're going
Speaker 2: to make appearances in the music video first and foremost.
Speaker 2: I have an ignorant question. Okay, well, do you know
Speaker 2: who the twenty sevens are? And should we know? No?
Speaker 1: And why are they twenty seven? Are there twenty seven
Speaker 1: of them? Or are they all aged twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Are they? Yeah? They do? They wish they were twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Are there lucky numbers two and seven? Like I just
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm assuming is.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven the age in Hollywood when most of the
Speaker 1: famous actors died, like Remote Phoenix and Amy Winehouse. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them.
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 1: Is it age twenty seven? I don't know that.
Speaker 2: If that, if you're right on that, I'm honestly, like
Speaker 2: very impressed that you would know such him. Yes, you
Speaker 2: are right twenty seven clubs, so maybe that's why. But
Speaker 2: do you really want to be in a band that's
Speaker 2: about when people die?
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in that club.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't need to.
Speaker 1: I hate to break at you and you.
Speaker 2: Past the claw?
Speaker 1: Is there a forty nine club? Because I don't want
Speaker 1: to be in that one?
Speaker 2: But then Katie sends a picture saying she's not going
Speaker 2: to make it because she's sick. But I'm like, Katie,
Speaker 2: if you're going to send a deathbed pick like, you
Speaker 2: need to smear your makeup like a little bit more red.
Speaker 1: That's a hot sunbie, I'm sick.
Speaker 2: I was like, gosh, even cruise does better? Uh? All
Speaker 2: like mom, I'm sick holding his thermometer up to like
Speaker 2: the layup, trying to warm up the heat. But yes,
Speaker 2: they shoot the music video, which I do have to
Speaker 2: say that song is catchy.
Speaker 1: It is catchy, But when did she write this song?
Speaker 1: Was it a long time time ago? So long ago?
Speaker 1: And she's just now making the music video.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's over ten years ago, so this is
Speaker 2: a remix with the twenty sevens.
Speaker 1: I see, okay, got it?
Speaker 2: I see? I see.
Speaker 1: I also was confused why.
Speaker 2: Arianna and Sheena both had sparkly outfits but Lala just
Speaker 2: had a black outfit.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was any coordinating, like maybe there
Speaker 1: wasn't a costume memo that went out. It was like
Speaker 1: just show up and dance.
Speaker 2: I was also kept maybe this was like an editing thing,
Speaker 2: but I kept waiting for their mouths to actually match
Speaker 2: the words, but it didn't happen. So now I guess
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go back and watch. Has the
Speaker 2: music video been released? Do we need to watch it?
Speaker 2: I need to see it, and it's final for we.
Speaker 1: Need to recap the music video.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe this was for that like uber commercial. Remember
Speaker 2: they did so the uber commercial made good as gold
Speaker 2: like bigg because remember right after Scandabal, they did good
Speaker 2: as Gold with the Uber So I think they're just
Speaker 2: capitalizing on the song's popularity.
Speaker 1: I guess I get it. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Now we get Alli and James.
Speaker 1: Allie tells James that Rachel is blaming him for Hippie's behavior.
Speaker 1: On her podcast, Rachel also claims she was really upset
Speaker 1: after her breakup with James and she never actually loved Tom.
Speaker 1: You believe that, No, I don't believe that. I think
Speaker 1: that she keeps saying that she never loved Tom because
Speaker 1: she feels like that's what she needs to.
Speaker 2: Say, whether it was real love or satuation. I do
Speaker 2: think she went from one not great relationship to another
Speaker 2: not great relationship. But to say she never loved him,
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you just created all this shit storm
Speaker 2: for fun, for giggles, for some guy you don't care about. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: at least if you said yeah, I mean, I was
Speaker 2: wrong and I realized how Tom of our relationship was,
Speaker 2: but I thought I was in love with him.
Speaker 1: I feel like saying that she was in love with
Speaker 1: him would justify the behavior more than saying she never
Speaker 1: cared about him. Yeah, saying you never saying she never
Speaker 1: cared makes it very lase fair, very flippant, like she
Speaker 1: doesn't care that she does ruined people's lives for just
Speaker 1: some guys she didn't care about. Well.
Speaker 2: I also think it's her way of still wanting to
Speaker 2: get into both James and Tom's head, yes, because at
Speaker 2: this point now we see later in the episode that
Speaker 2: they get in a fight over this, but also Tom
Speaker 2: Santoval is clearly very upset by this statement. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 2: But then we still get into James and Ali talking
Speaker 2: about their future.
Speaker 1: Wait, can I say one more thing? Though, she's actually
Speaker 1: very intelligent if she figured this out a way for
Speaker 1: her to not be on the show, but to be
Speaker 1: on the show, like she's figured out a way for
Speaker 1: her to have a podcast and be in a lot
Speaker 1: of the Like everything going on in this episode this
Speaker 1: time was based upon them hearing things that she said
Speaker 1: on a podcast, yet she's not on the show, Like
Speaker 1: that was I don't know if that was diabolical on
Speaker 1: her part or she knew that she was going to
Speaker 1: be able to affect them that way by having a podcast,
Speaker 1: but like, is she that smart or does this.
Speaker 2: Just happen to happen that way? Well, I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't know how many times has to
Speaker 2: teas and a pod been brought up on OC this
Speaker 2: season in general, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't I mean been brought up.
Speaker 2: Yes, it has, Yes, So I think there is a
Speaker 2: formula at this point, people know, like I know on Jersey,
Speaker 2: like their podcasts get brought up like there. At this point,
Speaker 2: podcasts are out there enough that you know that you
Speaker 2: speak about things, it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I just wonder if she knew how much of an
Speaker 1: effect her podcast would have on their behavior and conversations
Speaker 1: while they were filming.
Speaker 2: I guess that's my question. Well, I think it the
Speaker 2: release date was not probably an accident, true, if you
Speaker 2: are going I mean, the Bethany interview was a huge
Speaker 2: deal when it first came out, the interview that Rachel
Speaker 2: did with Ben Ray, so I think it followed up
Speaker 2: from that. She got herself a deal and then capitalized
Speaker 2: on it. But then the part that I thought was
Speaker 2: confusing as something else that she said was you know,
Speaker 2: at first when La La called her, she thought Laala
Speaker 2: legitimately was checking on her, But then she realized watching
Speaker 2: back on the show that it was for the show.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, so is this Yeah, exactly, it's
Speaker 2: all for the show, right if you want to move on,
Speaker 2: like and I know I'm repeating myself, but if you
Speaker 2: want to move on from something and you never want
Speaker 2: to talk at about it again.
Speaker 1: Then you wouldn't talk about it, you would you would
Speaker 1: move on, and you wouldn't talk about it. Then you
Speaker 1: talk about it, and you're you're capitalizing on it just
Speaker 1: like she is.
Speaker 2: Which you which in your first four episode said you
Speaker 2: had a major problem with people capitalizing on this. But anyhow,
Speaker 2: then we get into Ali and James talking about their
Speaker 2: future together where Ali kind of says that she hasn't
Speaker 2: ever thought about having kids or getting married, and James
Speaker 2: starts to.
Speaker 1: Cry, Yeah, I actually I actually thought this was really sad,
Speaker 1: and I kept thinking to myself, have they never had
Speaker 1: a serious conversation about what they would both want in
Speaker 1: the future? Like was he sincerely shocked by the fact
Speaker 1: that she was like, I don't know if I ever
Speaker 1: want to get married really have kids? But he was crying, well,
Speaker 1: so so did that just? Has that just never come up?
Speaker 1: Like they've been together a year and a half and
Speaker 1: they lived together, but there's never been any conversation about
Speaker 1: a future.
Speaker 2: Then I also don't understand really what this statement means. Listen,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be with you if I didn't see a future, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what kind of future? Does that future include
Speaker 1: marriage and children? Or does that future just include living
Speaker 1: in this house.
Speaker 2: It is a show, yeah, I'm gonna say, Or the
Speaker 2: future is the future of us being on this television
Speaker 2: show and me launching my singing career right putting up
Speaker 2: with your shit and my star charts.
Speaker 1: Don't forget those.
Speaker 2: Having said, I do really like Ali, I think that
Speaker 2: she probably isn't I believe there's a big age gap
Speaker 2: between the two of them, or maybe I'm just making
Speaker 2: that up in my head, but yeah, I mean, she
Speaker 2: may not be there yet and he is just coming
Speaker 2: out of being engaged to somebody that it didn't work out,
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming she probably needs more time before she
Speaker 2: decides what that future entails. And I think when I think, also,
Speaker 2: it's very tricky when you talk about moving in together
Speaker 2: when somebody doesn't live in your town, you move in
Speaker 2: together in order to be in the same location, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like, it's not like they both
Speaker 2: lived in la and she moved in she lived I
Speaker 2: think it was Indiana or somewhere in the Midwest to
Speaker 2: my knowledge, I could be wrong, but to my knowledge,
Speaker 2: and then when she moved out here, she you know,
Speaker 2: did that. And Ali was also on a reality show
Speaker 2: prior to called The Valley. It's also called The Valley,
Speaker 2: the First Valley. It's an old reality show. Oh, I
Speaker 2: remember seeing clips about this, but I don't remember that. Well,
Speaker 2: so we'll have to go down that rabbit hole in
Speaker 2: another day. Well that's interesting. It was on the CW.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a younger crowd than what I'm used to.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean Ali is twenty eight, so she's
Speaker 2: young compared to the rest of the cast.
Speaker 1: I forget how old they are sometimes because I still
Speaker 1: picture them as like servers, like they like they just
Speaker 1: came to LA and they're like, you know, serving and bartending.
Speaker 1: And then I realized they're like in their forties. They're
Speaker 1: my age, and I have four kids.
Speaker 2: I know they are my age. But then Ariana Lala
Speaker 2: Sheen are also talking about Rachel's new podcasts and the
Speaker 2: lies she is spreading on there. The lies Rachel claimed
Speaker 2: Ariana and her weren't close, but the vander Pump flashbacks
Speaker 2: and Arianna say otherwise. Sheena's pissed because Rachel only contributed
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars towards rent she never stopped. What is
Speaker 2: up with these people caring? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why that's right. I don't know. That's
Speaker 1: very very petty.
Speaker 2: Like get over it, and that she had sex in
Speaker 2: her bed. But I couldn't help myself. But under this
Speaker 2: entire scene, whose was sitting on the table.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice that.
Speaker 2: You're very aware it's called obsessive compulsive disorder.
Speaker 1: Yes it is, I said, very aware. You say, oh CD,
Speaker 1: I got it. Who do you think it is?
Speaker 2: I know I already. I mean, I'm it could be
Speaker 2: multiple people's.
Speaker 1: Well there's only three of them, right, yeah, well okay,
Speaker 1: I would say, is it law loss? No, but she's
Speaker 1: she's gonna have a baby, so she's going to be healthy.
Speaker 1: It's Sheena's.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to out somebody's vaping in this moment.
Speaker 2: This may have been a moment where maybe Sheena didn't
Speaker 2: need to step in. This could have maybe just normally
Speaker 2: I'm not happy to hear ariana side of things, but
Speaker 2: in this particular setting, I didn't need Shena to be
Speaker 2: upset about the rent. Clearly you told her she could
Speaker 2: stay at your place.
Speaker 1: Right, and if she only contributed a thousand dollars, you
Speaker 1: were okay with that. That was you were fine with
Speaker 1: that contribution because you didn't have a problem with it
Speaker 1: at the time.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So, and I believe I remember there was
Speaker 2: all this back and forth about the cat and the
Speaker 2: litter and the I mean all of it, Okay, And
Speaker 2: clearly Rachel's claiming that she wasn't close with Arianna because
Speaker 2: again what we talked about before.
Speaker 1: If she says they were close, that makes her look
Speaker 1: even worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if she says I didn't love Tom and Arianna
Speaker 1: and I weren't close, she's trying to distance herself from everything.
Speaker 2: Why can't she just say Arianna and I had a relationship.
Speaker 2: But clearly, when I started everything with Tom, I pulled
Speaker 2: myself away because I felt guilty. I felt back like
Speaker 2: just at least explain to us the actual dynamics. But
Speaker 2: both of them claiming that you know, Tom that he
Speaker 2: wasn't close with Ariana at the time, and Rachel claiming
Speaker 2: she wasn't close to Di at the time.
Speaker 1: That whole story is bothersome. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Then we get to the sperm donor party, which you
Speaker 2: can see, like Lisa Vanner Pump really doesn't she did
Speaker 2: not want to support Laala on this event, but she
Speaker 2: did like did you see your.
Speaker 1: Face at the bar? Oh, she was relocked up. She's like, wait,
Speaker 1: we're really doing this. Wait, there's really sperm. We're really
Speaker 1: doing penn the sperm on the huha, Like this is
Speaker 1: really happening in my backyard.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, and then she also was like, even
Speaker 2: just when Lala was bringing it up in the first place,
Speaker 2: to have the party, like Laala had to start crying
Speaker 2: and saying like, please, don't try to change my opinion
Speaker 2: on this, like I really want.
Speaker 1: To do this right.
Speaker 2: And that's when Lisa was like, then probably Lisa thought
Speaker 2: on her head, Okay, Lala's already sober, so this won't
Speaker 2: cause a big problem in the show by her not drinking.
Speaker 1: So she'll be fine. We got this.
Speaker 2: She'll be fine, She'll be fine, She'll be able to
Speaker 2: continue producing, and all will be fine. She asked Ariana
Speaker 2: to have it at her house. I almost ship my
Speaker 2: pants when said the house is a hot mess. And
Speaker 2: then it was even messier than normal.
Speaker 1: It was horrible what happened. I swear every time I
Speaker 1: see that house, I feel like I accidentally ended up
Speaker 1: in an episode of Hoarders. Every time.
Speaker 2: I mean, life without Anne is a disaster. How can
Speaker 2: you just not pick your shit up? How can you
Speaker 2: have Christmas gifts and boxes and wet towels like all
Speaker 2: of it, like be like the rest of us and
Speaker 2: just put all your shit in one cabinet that you
Speaker 2: don't want to deal with and that you pretend you're
Speaker 2: going to want one day.
Speaker 1: Exactly. I have a guest bedroom with a guest closet
Speaker 1: and it is full of shit. Every time people mail
Speaker 1: me stuff, I put it in that closet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we tell ourselves that we're going to
Speaker 2: do something with it, and they do not things. No, no, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Occasionally it becomes a regift situation. But that's it.
Speaker 1: I did love the sperm Donor party, though I actually
Speaker 1: got a little teary eyed.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I love I love this entire story. I
Speaker 2: love everything that La La saying.
Speaker 3: I it makes me so I don't know, it makes
Speaker 3: me emotional to think how much she's was hurting is
Speaker 3: hurting in regards to ocean, and why that has.
Speaker 2: Ultimately made her probably feel softer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's a lot to deal with,
Speaker 1: and I'm and she doesn't really expand on it, but
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what That's why every time I want
Speaker 1: to divorce Shane, I dis backpedal because I'm like, then
Speaker 1: I'd have to Then I'd have to share custody of
Speaker 1: my children with him, and I'd have to work things
Speaker 1: out with him, and I have to like we'd have
Speaker 1: to switch vacations and holidays, I know, And then you'd.
Speaker 2: Have to decide if you're going to be the type
Speaker 2: that like one person gets Christmas Eve, the other person
Speaker 2: gets Christmas Day, or if it's going to be you
Speaker 2: get Thanksgiving and you get the Christmas right, or do you.
Speaker 1: Split the day or do you let them come over
Speaker 1: and watch the kids open presence even though you don't
Speaker 1: really want them in your house, but that's probably what's
Speaker 1: best for your kids.
Speaker 2: No, thank you, no, thank you. No, it's a lot
Speaker 2: of shit. But I do you know everybody voting on
Speaker 2: the same guy?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: But am I such an asshole that in the middle
Speaker 2: of it, I was like, can we get a pick? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I also have picks, I know, but they don't do that.
Speaker 1: You can't out these guys. They're not going to donate
Speaker 1: sperm if they're big pictures out there for everyone to
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: True, I did hear. I don't know if I heard
Speaker 2: this on the show or I heard this on La La,
Speaker 2: like on a clip or something, but she did say
Speaker 2: she did not want to actually see pictures of the
Speaker 2: guys grown up, but she did look at their baby pictures.
Speaker 2: Oh well that's cute. Isn't that interesting? So that she
Speaker 2: could kind of pick somebody that looked similar to Ocean, I.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, yeah, well that's cute. I like that me too.
Speaker 2: What about when Sandoval shows up to Short's house and
Speaker 2: he's feeling shells shot, Sandoval breaks down. Sandoval has cried
Speaker 2: more than like I cried. I'm a big crier.
Speaker 1: But he says we should have a running tallly of
Speaker 1: how many times Sandival's cried this season, because it's a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's having a cry.
Speaker 2: He listened to the podcast hearing her says she never
Speaker 2: loved him, shook him to the core after everything they've
Speaker 2: been through, she'd at least want to give it a
Speaker 2: shot because of how much he loved her. But at
Speaker 2: this point, Shorts kind of like, you loved Doriana as well? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like he does call her out on this, then guess
Speaker 2: what Sandoval's late again to go to Tom Tom for brunch.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, I feel like, well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's his editing, but it seemed to me like
Speaker 1: Lisa walks in and was only there a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes before she and me he was thirty minutes late.
Speaker 1: Unless she was just hanging around.
Speaker 2: What do you think she was doing dishes in the back?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe she was just like sweeping up
Speaker 1: or something. That's why I didn't see her on camera.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I also am having a little bit
Speaker 2: of a hard time seeing Shorts walking around looking like
Speaker 2: radioactive Ken Like, it's when are we going to get
Speaker 2: that change?
Speaker 1: Like a buzz cut. He looks like Kate plus eight.
Speaker 2: K plus eight. Then he also shares that he has
Speaker 2: not accepted Arianna accepted the offer of Santabel buying out
Speaker 2: the house, and now we hear that he can't buy
Speaker 2: out the house. He doesn't know if he wants about
Speaker 2: the house or he can afford to buy the house.
Speaker 2: And then he asked Shortz to be his roommate and
Speaker 2: pay six.
Speaker 1: Thousand dollars a month. I know, I was like, where
Speaker 1: where are you you are? All over that He's all
Speaker 1: over the place, He's all over the map. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes when I feel like I'm actually siding with Tom,
Speaker 1: then he goes and says something ridiculously stupid like this,
Speaker 1: and then I'm like, oh, right back at square one again.
Speaker 2: No, sometimes I think I'm siding with Tom and then
Speaker 2: I see a sound check.
Speaker 1: I okay.
Speaker 2: Then we get to Seena and Rock cleaning up over
Speaker 2: at Ariana's house. This scene, I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: very nice of Shena, and wait, where do you think
Speaker 2: that came from?
Speaker 1: Do you think they honestly together thought we need to
Speaker 1: go over there and clean up, or the producers were like,
Speaker 1: can you go over to our house and clean up?
Speaker 1: Because we have to film there and we don't want
Speaker 1: to get a disease. So if you guys could just
Speaker 1: go and like wipe it down, maybe put some shit away.
Speaker 2: I think they the producers probably said to Shina, if
Speaker 2: you want to talk about your new song apples, we
Speaker 2: have a way for you to do it. In exchange,
Speaker 2: you have to go take over Anne's job and clean
Speaker 2: up Santabal and Ari on his home so it's more
Speaker 2: accessible to film it because our camera crew can't get
Speaker 2: through the hallways.
Speaker 1: It has become dangerous for us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm excited to hear what this Apple song
Speaker 2: comes to be. But I do think maybe Brock and
Speaker 2: Sheina should have worn masks why they did this clean
Speaker 2: up and gloves.
Speaker 1: Maybe he has matsuits, like, let's just just has matsuits.
Speaker 1: Just be safe, just either way.
Speaker 2: And then I love that Arian is just sitting there.
Speaker 1: She's like, all right, you guys want to clean up.
Speaker 2: No, she doesn't even helped. She's like, I'm not touching.
Speaker 2: Those are his water. But then did she say he
Speaker 2: likes it room timp I was like, you care what
Speaker 2: temperature he likes his water?
Speaker 1: I don't remember that bart, I remember someone saying that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because because she was like, let's put these in the refrigerator.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then we're at sound check where James shows up
Speaker 2: to check on Sandoval's well being, which didn't actually see
Speaker 2: what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't seem that way at all. It really
Speaker 1: didn't have the vibe of a wellness check to be
Speaker 1: I mean, he checked him, but not such a It
Speaker 1: wasn't a wellness check.
Speaker 2: James saying he doesn't think Rachel and Santival were ever
Speaker 2: in love. Sandoval denies it, trying to prove they were
Speaker 2: in love. The two start to yell each other and
Speaker 2: James says he won't be opening for Santoval's band because
Speaker 2: he's moved on to better things. He calls the band
Speaker 2: a joke. Santaval tells James to go push buttons on
Speaker 2: a laptop. Like both of these guys in this setting,
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure why, Like, did he just want
Speaker 2: to go over it and like stick it to Tom
Speaker 2: that Rachel is potentially still in love with him.
Speaker 1: I think so. I felt like it was a little
Speaker 1: bit of vindication for him, a little bit of revenge
Speaker 1: he was going to take that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then he's like, and this band's a joke. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have thatt our things could do.
Speaker 2: I have better things to do, even though three scenes
Speaker 2: before we saw him like listen, you know the del
Speaker 2: Rey or.
Speaker 1: The l Yeah, it's an iconic spot, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of history there. This is a good gig for me.
Speaker 1: He's like, I have better.
Speaker 2: Things to do, but he is. He's like one of
Speaker 2: those like string dolls, you know, the dolls you hold
Speaker 2: up but then when one of the strings breaks, then
Speaker 2: like everything goes out of control, and you're like.
Speaker 1: Like, is that a marionette? Is that what it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe, but he just he can't control anything that
Speaker 2: comes out of his mouth. Schwartz goes over to Sandoval's
Speaker 2: housewhay arian is at the sperm donor party and.
Speaker 1: The weekend the glimpse of Sandoval's new assistant.
Speaker 2: In a matching outfit that was like, I was thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you for wearing the same exact outfit. Guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that a band member who is now an assistant?
Speaker 1: Is he a twenty seven club member? He's just like, Hey,
Speaker 1: you're already playing in my band, So why don't you
Speaker 1: just come over and clean my house too?
Speaker 2: Why don't you come over? Were are the same outfits?
Speaker 2: Make me tease, walk on an incline on the treadmill,
Speaker 2: and let's be best friends and can't you paint my nails?
Speaker 2: But is Anne working for Ariana? Ra Anna is gone? Now?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think we clearly know where
Speaker 1: Anne went and if she was fired or quit, and
Speaker 1: if she's working for Ariana or not. I feel like
Speaker 1: that whole situation was messy and we don't really know.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we're going to clearly it looks like their
Speaker 2: dining room table. But then Santoval gives Shorts the pomposition
Speaker 2: about moving into the house. I really feel like what
Speaker 2: this is is like we're giving a pitch for season twelve,
Speaker 2: and us living together is.
Speaker 1: Going to give the people what they want. Yeah, would
Speaker 1: you like to move into my house? Maybe you have
Speaker 1: a shot on OC next season. I have a house
Speaker 1: guest I have a guest room.
Speaker 2: We're fighting because she's only contributing a thousand dollars a
Speaker 2: month and only rese out the toilet paper once and
Speaker 2: never put any batteries.
Speaker 1: It's never bought any batteries.
Speaker 2: Bitch. Hey Edwin, I'm sorry. I'm gonna be gone for
Speaker 2: four months. I'm moving into Emily's. Well, then then we
Speaker 2: do get the pin the sperm on the vagina, the
Speaker 2: whole sperm donor party. I did really like. I am
Speaker 2: excited for La La, I'm excited to meet the baby.
Speaker 2: I also wonder what this will mean going forward when
Speaker 2: she has the baby and filming, because you know, Ocean
Speaker 2: can not film, so if she's going to not film
Speaker 2: either to keep it the same, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Know that's interesting. I actually kind of deal with that too,
Speaker 1: But it's just it's with my stepdaughters because one of
Speaker 1: my stepdaughters lives with us full time. She's lived here
Speaker 1: since she was fourteen, but her mom won't sign off
Speaker 1: on it. So then it becomes awkward sometimes because I mean,
Speaker 1: she understands, but if we're filming at home with Shane,
Speaker 1: me and the three kids, she can't be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she has to be in her bedroom, 're not home.
Speaker 1: And then but that's not by my doing or Shane's.
Speaker 1: It's on the other side, right, and there's something you
Speaker 1: can do about it, exactly.
Speaker 2: But Donor Number one is the winner by a landslide,
Speaker 2: and La La officially has her baby daddy.
Speaker 1: Would number one have been your pick? I think?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: I think number one was the standout definitely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we already covered this next part. But
Speaker 2: then it ends with Tom. Tom has officially started serving brunch.
Speaker 2: Short says it's five years and the making Laala and
Speaker 2: Katie get vulnerable with each other, which this was a
Speaker 2: little Lala says she's upset that they drifted apart in
Speaker 2: her and ariannor each other's number ones now, and then
Speaker 2: they both agree to make more time for each other.
Speaker 2: But then Laala doesn't have the time. But then Katie like,
Speaker 2: what do you thinks going on here? You know?
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I feel like it's one of
Speaker 1: those conversations you have because you have to resolve things
Speaker 1: and you have to have these conversations on camera. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if either one of them is that
Speaker 1: invested yeah, to actually want to make the effort. I
Speaker 1: feel like it was maybe a forced conversation. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I am curious also, like I'll ask Katie when
Speaker 2: she's on, but is she a baby person? Like? I
Speaker 2: have certain.
Speaker 1: Friends, yeah, that.
Speaker 2: You know, that I was friends with before having kids,
Speaker 2: and that I see now occasionally because we make an
Speaker 2: effort to go on a hike or do something. But
Speaker 2: they are not like super kid people, so like they're
Speaker 2: not going to come, like hang out with me and
Speaker 2: my kids if they don't have kids themselves, because it's
Speaker 2: not you know. So I do think relationships do shift
Speaker 2: when one person has a child and another person doesn't.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that too, because I have Most
Speaker 1: of my friends have kids, and I feel like it's
Speaker 1: easier to be friends with women who have children because
Speaker 1: they understand. But I have a couple friends who don't
Speaker 1: have kids, and they annoy me because and not on purpose,
Speaker 1: but they just it's it can be annoying because sometimes
Speaker 1: you just it's just different places.
Speaker 2: Different complaints, different things to stress about, different amounts of
Speaker 2: like understanding, timing, all that kind of stuff. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I also have friends that don't have kids that love
Speaker 2: to come over and hang out with me and my
Speaker 2: kids because they love kids. So I think we need
Speaker 2: to get to the bottom of that with Katie. But
Speaker 2: you can see that they're both is hurt there, Well,
Speaker 2: what would your guest be? I would say, she doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like a kid person to me. To me either,
Speaker 2: so that's what I'm curious about. But that could just
Speaker 2: be misreading it because she has that ability to kind
Speaker 2: of be a loof be aloof, But I think that's
Speaker 2: just a protection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, could or could not be true.
Speaker 2: I don't remember because I didn't watch all the beginning seasons.
Speaker 2: I don't remember hearing her and Shorts talking about wanting
Speaker 2: to start a family or anything like that. But could
Speaker 2: be wrong.
Speaker 1: Then why do you think it took five years to
Speaker 1: make brunch? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Our eggs harder to make.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like, I feel like brunch
Speaker 1: seems like an easy route to go, like it's in
Speaker 1: the morning.
Speaker 2: Maybe it has to do something with like an alcohol license,
Speaker 2: Like I think there are some places that you can serve.
Speaker 1: Alcohol, but it has to be in the evening evening.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was totally what I think is hard about
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So maybe it took a while.
Speaker 2: And clearly, if you're going to tom Tom, you're going
Speaker 2: to need a drink as well, so not everybody's going
Speaker 2: to be fine with just the sparkling water. But then
Speaker 2: this next part, Sena walking over to Shorts and Sandoval
Speaker 2: about her new song, and then once Sandoval realizes it's
Speaker 2: about the fair, he storms out. He thought his relationship
Speaker 2: with Sheena was getting better, but a friend wouldn't profit
Speaker 2: off his misery. I mean, let's be honest, I need
Speaker 2: to hear the song before we know if anybody's making Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's a TBD. This is to be determined, and
Speaker 2: I love that She's like, oh, I thought you would
Speaker 2: have heard it already, like the whole that was very awkward.
Speaker 1: That entire exchange, like where on iTunes on Spotify? Where
Speaker 1: where would you hear it.
Speaker 2: Maybe she posted it on her Instagram. I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I mean now I want to hear it. Is
Speaker 2: it out, guys? What I've already had the opportunity to
Speaker 2: hear it other than when she sang it on the phone?
Speaker 1: Pay it? I don't know if we have to trademark it.
Speaker 2: What if we had to pay money to have it
Speaker 2: on What if it was our theme song, like you know,
Speaker 2: on the Hills, so it was like unwritten by yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: you know, guys, that's another episode of Van back later
Speaker 2: in the week to recap the Valley. We couldn't do
Speaker 2: both today. We just we're just too much, too tired too.
Speaker 2: It's just a lot.
Speaker 1: We have a lot to do with very interesting lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are just so booked up that we're going
Speaker 2: to recap the Valley later and let's hope that the
Speaker 2: Valley is giving.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I didn't see any photos of
Speaker 1: you at Coachella. Yeah no, you know what I aged out?
Speaker 1: Do you get invited? I don't want to brag what
Speaker 1: I did. I even got offered to, you know, do something,
Speaker 1: but and.
Speaker 2: You said no, you declined it was a it was
Speaker 2: world champion Hunter Rider Week at a horse show, and oh,
Speaker 2: it's like a big deal for me and s Late
Speaker 2: and we love doing them together.
Speaker 1: So well, then you made the right choice. Good for you.
Speaker 2: Listen. I know I made the right choice when I
Speaker 2: think about the traffic on the way home from Coachella
Speaker 2: or the hangover that I would probably have to get.
Speaker 2: We're the outfit you would have to get to bull Ahead. Gosh,
Speaker 2: all the outfits, it's just a lot, the glitter, the hair,
Speaker 2: it's just you know, at least on the pod, I
Speaker 2: can just wear a hoodie, right, sweatpants.
Speaker 1: When they when they have like an over forty Coachella
Speaker 1: where I can just wear workout clothes, then I'm there.
Speaker 2: They had an O and it was called Old Cella,
Speaker 2: but it only happened one year, which I was like,
Speaker 2: why we all got too tired because everyone was done
Speaker 2: by seven pm? Nobody can make it for the closing
Speaker 2: out right, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Well all right, well I'll talk to you later this week. Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks for listening, guys,