Speaker 1: Are you leaving? I you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us
Speaker 2: time and a terminol and gay a.
Speaker 1: We want to send you off inside. You wanna welcome
Speaker 1: you back home?
Speaker 3: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 2: Malborn?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need.
Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 1: And this is Karen Kilgareff. Hello, my friend Karen. Hello.
Speaker 3: Did you notice that I did my name introduction like
Speaker 3: a newscaster?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. We were talking about the news, broadcast, journalism
Speaker 4: before this, and Karen took on a very TV ready tone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ready for the job.
Speaker 3: I don't know about things, but I can cold read
Speaker 3: and I can do the voice.
Speaker 4: You know, they don't teach anything at radio television school.
Speaker 1: Did you go no? No?
Speaker 4: But I have family that did, a father and a sister.
Speaker 4: Yes broadcast? Did your sister go to yes? I mean
Speaker 4: I think she'd probably be offended that I just said.
Speaker 1: They don't teach you anything.
Speaker 4: She's a very smart I didn't learned a lot of
Speaker 4: it in college, and I apologize, Lisa.
Speaker 3: If you're listening, Lisa, we know you're listening because you're
Speaker 3: one of the great podcasts support sisters. There is yes,
Speaker 3: and I'd love to.
Speaker 1: Hear her actual train TV radio bo.
Speaker 4: I would like to also see some of her early
Speaker 4: on camera work in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh for real, Yeah, this is before she became
Speaker 3: a teacher, live at the Space Needle like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a lot ahead, gestures I, Bobby.
Speaker 1: I have good news. But that also bees are back.
Speaker 4: I've you know how the last couple of years, I've
Speaker 4: joked about how bees are just gray and kind of
Speaker 4: limping on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The other day I got stung on my hand. Well,
Speaker 4: the bee stinger was like on my shirt. I fell skateboarding.
Speaker 4: I dusted off the dirt and then all of a
Speaker 4: sudden there was a stinger, a disembodied skinner in my
Speaker 4: hand and I just pulled it out.
Speaker 1: Big deal. It wasn't that painful.
Speaker 4: I just felt what a privilege to finally get stung
Speaker 4: by a bee again, because he's been a decade. Then
Speaker 4: my two days later, my hand looked like a bagel,
Speaker 4: like a gelatinous bagel hand, and I just did an
Speaker 4: EpiPen in my leg and it went down. So there's
Speaker 4: nothing really to show. But it was in. I guess
Speaker 4: I'm allergic to bees. It's my story.
Speaker 1: Or it was not a bee stinger. It could have
Speaker 1: been a stinger from something else. Yes, something much more deadly.
Speaker 1: Oh god, we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: The weather. And now, how we nailed that package. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really did zoom in on the freeway shoe. We
Speaker 1: have to introduce our guests now.
Speaker 4: Yes, we have such a good guest today. I'm so
Speaker 4: very excited.
Speaker 1: It's very exciting. Three our premier guest for Ces.
Speaker 4: This is our season three premiere episode.
Speaker 1: Yes it is. That should have been one of the
Speaker 1: first things we mentioned. I know, but we don't do
Speaker 1: it that way. I add my bagel hand story.
Speaker 4: Sometimes things have to take backseat to a good bagel
Speaker 4: hand story.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, you've seen her perform at clubs and
Speaker 3: colleges all over the country. Please and star search, please
Speaker 3: welcome the legendary MS Margaret Show.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Oh, clubs in colleges, comedy on the road,
Speaker 2: with John Viners, John Viner's On the Road, Half Hour
Speaker 2: Comedy Hour, Half Hour Comedy Hours, A and Ease.
Speaker 1: The A List, Yes, Wow, wow.
Speaker 4: Yes, MTV's half Hour Comedy Hour with Mario Joiner.
Speaker 3: HBOS Ladies of the Night, the HBO ones, the cable
Speaker 3: ones were always they equated all female comics with being
Speaker 3: whores and sluts, so it was always like Ladies the Night,
Speaker 3: night walkers with microphones. It was always the name had
Speaker 3: to involve uh sex.
Speaker 4: Work, Yeah, like with fish nuts stockings in the logo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a dark alley and high heel.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Welcome dian Ford, Diane Ford, Susie Esmond, Margaret Smith. I
Speaker 2: love I love all those comedians, by the.
Speaker 3: Way, legendary Carol Leifer. They were the ones that made
Speaker 3: us believe we could do it right.
Speaker 4: So yeah, what what did Sandra Bernhardt host?
Speaker 2: She holded the A List shows?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was great, She is great, She still is stillis.
Speaker 3: One of the best recurring Letterman guests of all time.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Did anyone ever see the time she tried to get
Speaker 3: Dave to use a rowing machine like to do uh
Speaker 3: we a workout with her and she got up and
Speaker 3: went over to a rowing machine, was like, come on,
Speaker 3: Dave and was rowing really hard while she was yelling
Speaker 3: at him to come and work out with her. Oh,
Speaker 3: it was like it was so hilarious and insane.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I think I do remember that. I don't know why
Speaker 2: I thought it was an elliptical or like one of those.
Speaker 1: This could be.
Speaker 3: A tiebreaker and actually find out what it was.
Speaker 2: But in my mind it's a verse a climber. But
Speaker 2: maybe that's from truth.
Speaker 1: Or dare I'm I'm of the belief that it was
Speaker 1: a Nordic track.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about the gazelle arms and legs going.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That guy the uh yeah, he was little something little.
Speaker 4: Don't get me started on TV exercise guys.
Speaker 1: Oh, Tony little.
Speaker 2: That's Tony little with a little ponytail, little ponytail.
Speaker 3: It kind of looked like he had a perm Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he just he really loved cardia.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a visionary.
Speaker 2: Did I tell you one time I got so drunk
Speaker 2: that I ordered a pilates machine.
Speaker 1: I drank a whole bottle.
Speaker 2: Of mark Maker's Mark When I was working at Carolines
Speaker 2: in the early early like two thousands or maybe it
Speaker 2: was a late nineties and I ordered it. I didn't
Speaker 2: even order it on the internet. I ordered it off television. No,
Speaker 2: I was so drunk, and I don't think I gave
Speaker 2: them the right correct like credit card information, because it
Speaker 2: never came and nobody ever charged me.
Speaker 1: Oh, like you've churched somebody else for a Plate's something.
Speaker 2: Somebody got a pilates machine that I ordered when I
Speaker 2: drank a whole bottle of Maker's mark. That's so disgusting.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's but that's how we did it back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the nineties because it was at
Speaker 2: the Mayflower Hotel, I remember, and it was like on
Speaker 2: a landline, like a push like a not a rotary phone,
Speaker 2: but you know the push button fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's when, Yeah, it's when you're drinking a
Speaker 4: full bottle whiskey that you're like tomorrow everything changes, and
Speaker 4: it starts with this torch.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't understand plates.
Speaker 4: There's like I've done it, but there's like a wooden
Speaker 4: bed on wheels with bungee cords and it essentially stretches
Speaker 4: out your spine. Yes, it looks like an old torture device.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 3: I was taking PLATES classes for a little while in
Speaker 3: the mid two thousands, and it was that thing where.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's one thing you're first.
Speaker 3: The first exercise they have you do is like laying
Speaker 3: down and just kind of pulling yourself. But every time
Speaker 3: I would just feel my spine go ding ding ding,
Speaker 3: like pull apart in a really satisfying way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels good.
Speaker 2: It's hard, but it feels I think it feels good,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't really. I think you have to do
Speaker 2: it a lot to see any sort of results.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the impression I got when I was doing it.
Speaker 4: It's like I wasn't necessarily tired, so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is something you have to do every day.
Speaker 1: This is a lifestyle, and I don't think it's.
Speaker 4: Going to take no, no, And it's very they're very
Speaker 4: proud of it.
Speaker 1: Very expensive.
Speaker 2: They're so expensive.
Speaker 3: Did you guys see the video of the person who
Speaker 3: claimed that they had gotten their vaccination shot and then
Speaker 3: their leg.
Speaker 1: It was the video.
Speaker 3: She took a video of her own leg in the
Speaker 3: hospital bed and it was just shaking and I couldn't
Speaker 3: stop laughing because I was like, first of all, I
Speaker 3: have seizure, so that is not a seizure. Yeah, And secondly,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what would happen when I would try to
Speaker 3: do pilates, like the level of just full on shaking
Speaker 3: because you can't, like your muscles just aren't that strong
Speaker 3: and you can't really control it. And I was just like, lady,
Speaker 3: this is a plates reaction entirely.
Speaker 2: She also had had like an iPhone charger poised like
Speaker 2: to look like a port, like a chemo therapy port,
Speaker 2: but it was just stuck to her chest like that's
Speaker 2: a iPhone charger. Like it's like, so it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Yes, Wit, she was like pretending to be in the hospital.
Speaker 1: Then she was in the hospital.
Speaker 3: She had just gotten her booster, and then basically claimed
Speaker 3: I don't know if she brought herself to the hospital,
Speaker 3: because she was claiming she was having these reactions because
Speaker 3: of sorry, not the booster of the vaccination her first shot,
Speaker 3: but she was posting on social media to say, this
Speaker 3: is what they're not telling you about. And then basically
Speaker 3: from a laying down position, just lifting up one leg
Speaker 3: and then just letting it shake from no core strength
Speaker 3: is what it looked.
Speaker 1: Like to me.
Speaker 3: It was very familiar looking to me, and not scary.
Speaker 1: She just drank a lot of coffee. That was all
Speaker 1: of her.
Speaker 2: Oh, but I think she had started a GoFundMe too,
Speaker 2: Like she was trying to make money from her disability,
Speaker 2: her oh supposed disability from getting the vaccine. So it
Speaker 2: was a big scam.
Speaker 3: Oh that was supposed to be like, now go to
Speaker 3: my GoFundMe. Wow, with my shaky legs.
Speaker 4: He should be arrested. You donate to my leg shakes.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. That's what happened, is that she
Speaker 2: had like started to GoFundMe and made some money. Yet
Speaker 2: because people were siding with her and believing her. I mean,
Speaker 2: that whole anti vaccine thing is just so insane, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and and it's all people that are just
Speaker 2: scamming other people, and it's all.
Speaker 3: It's such so few people, but it's getting constant coverage,
Speaker 3: so right, it's not it's it's such a small amount
Speaker 3: of Americans who feel that way, and yet there they
Speaker 3: just get constantly covered and shown on the news.
Speaker 4: And I say this as a broadcast journalist, I don't
Speaker 4: think the media is our friend.
Speaker 3: I don't think they make good decisions when it comes
Speaker 3: to these scare tactics.
Speaker 4: Everyone's after a dollar, not us, not us.
Speaker 1: No, I don't I require no money.
Speaker 4: I got everything I need right in this room.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 4: However, when I saw a series of videos where people
Speaker 4: were like, there's a magnet, it's there's a chip in
Speaker 4: my arm, and they're holding magnets to their arms and
Speaker 4: a key on their forehead and yeah, it's like just.
Speaker 1: Their sweaty forehead. They're using this.
Speaker 2: It's so stupid, it's so dumb.
Speaker 4: I did run a magnet over my knee. I'm like,
Speaker 4: what if what if it is a magnetized liquid or something,
Speaker 4: Maybe there's flex in it like Goldschlager, And so I
Speaker 4: put it over my arm and uh, yeah, nothing happened.
Speaker 4: Nothing happened. I wasn't believing it. I just wanted to
Speaker 4: try it.
Speaker 3: The claim is that the vaccine makes you magnetized.
Speaker 4: The claim was a chip, a tiny state of the art,
Speaker 4: smaller than Rick Moranis's little spaceship. It enters into your bloodstream,
Speaker 4: and so they can keep tabs of you in rural Idaho,
Speaker 4: you know where they can see how they're affecting your gene.
Speaker 4: Because in rural Idaho you have the best genes. I
Speaker 4: don't know why I'm attacking rural Idaho. Uh.
Speaker 3: I think you were just trying to name a place
Speaker 3: where maybe people aren't getting monitored well. And also I've
Speaker 3: seen lots of people write tweets about this and make
Speaker 3: jokes and stuff. But it's like your phone is how
Speaker 3: they if they want to monitor that, they you hold
Speaker 3: a thing all day long that enables people to monitor you.
Speaker 1: What about the computer and your pants? Dumb dumb Margaret.
Speaker 3: Were you excited to get the vaccine? How was your quarantine?
Speaker 2: My quarantine was okay. I mean it's weird because I
Speaker 2: really love staying home. I didn't realize how much I
Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, and I have not been able to
Speaker 2: stay home. I mean we really haven't been able to
Speaker 2: stay home for thirty five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we just.
Speaker 2: Work all the time and doing stand ups, so it's
Speaker 2: like always gone or whatever. So I've just been here,
Speaker 2: which I love, and I've got to enjoy my house.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm excited to get the booster. I
Speaker 2: really would like to mix and match, so I'm hoping.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure which one I'm gonna get,
Speaker 2: but I had my durnas which I got at a
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium, which was really exciting. So now I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I wonder, I wonder which one I can get which booster,
Speaker 2: and I can't wait. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3: It's such a weird like I talked about therapists about
Speaker 3: this all the time, where it's just like you overall,
Speaker 3: you go, oh, there's been a quarantine, but we're all
Speaker 3: fine and nothing not that much has changed except where
Speaker 3: we stay home.
Speaker 1: Until like until you go back out.
Speaker 3: And like my friend had like five people all meet
Speaker 3: for dinner for his birthday at a restaurant that had
Speaker 3: like a patio, and I was like the second I
Speaker 3: sat down, I suddenly was the quiet person and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is I didn't know what to say,
Speaker 3: and I didn't know how to interact, and then when
Speaker 3: I went to tell a story, I had to say, oh, sorry,
Speaker 3: by the way, I might not stop talking, because that
Speaker 3: seems to be one of the side effects of me
Speaker 3: being in quarantine is I can talk for I mean,
Speaker 3: I think I always have been very mouthy, but it's
Speaker 3: like I don't I can't read the room anymore, so
Speaker 3: I don't know when my story should end. And I
Speaker 3: will just keep filling the air and it is so
Speaker 3: fucking embarrassing and weird, like I do it on the
Speaker 3: phone a lot, and then I'll be like, oops, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: I can stop talking now. But that, to me, I
Speaker 3: call it the talking disease is one of the weirdest
Speaker 3: side effects because I feel like, you know, as we
Speaker 3: all know is comics. Reading the room is part of
Speaker 3: how you survive and why you are or are not
Speaker 3: good at what you do, and I suddenly don't know anymore.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't have the internal like temperature to go enough.
Speaker 3: Like I'm doing it right now. You guys know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, and I'm still explaining.
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, I'm doing that in person too, Like
Speaker 4: I would tell longboring stories to my morning skateboarder friends
Speaker 4: and they're just like, where's this going? And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: I forgot how to be in a social situation. But
Speaker 4: I have a feeling if you were on stage that
Speaker 4: you know, it's different. It's different than being on stage.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to be at a dinner party,
Speaker 4: but I can still do stand up, I think.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've never known how to be at a
Speaker 2: dinner party. I've never known how to do any of
Speaker 2: those things. I either like talk way too much or
Speaker 2: don't talk enough, and so I've never really ever gotten
Speaker 2: the balance right. So it's never I don't know, it's
Speaker 2: never been an.
Speaker 1: Issue with stand up though. It's weird because.
Speaker 2: Now I'm starting to do shows again and I really
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm doing because I've really not done
Speaker 2: it in so long. So that's a weird feeling. Have
Speaker 2: you done shows?
Speaker 4: I have been easing back into because there's not a
Speaker 4: lot of shows going on, So I've just found myself
Speaker 4: getting work and somewhere where I need to do an
Speaker 4: hour and I'm I just fall back on my old material.
Speaker 4: Everything that I wrote during quarantine was about the situation,
Speaker 4: and no one wants to hear about that. In some
Speaker 4: ways they do, but yeah, I forgot my joke. I'll
Speaker 4: be in the middle of a joke and I forgot
Speaker 4: how it ends, like I just haven't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think the audience is understanding and like yes, okay,
Speaker 3: or do you feel they're.
Speaker 2: Super excited just to be out so they're really happy
Speaker 2: about it. So there's there's also a different feeling of
Speaker 2: like this refreshing sense of like, oh, I'm not in
Speaker 2: my house. Yeah, I like not watching TV. That's a
Speaker 2: good there's like, I think some measure of good faith
Speaker 2: that you get from that. And so, and I really
Speaker 2: don't remember any of my own material, and I will
Speaker 2: not go back and look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh I remember it.
Speaker 3: I'll text it to you, okay.
Speaker 2: Please, because I just don't know. I just like I
Speaker 2: refuse to go back and look. And so it's something
Speaker 2: that I have trouble with. But I figure if I
Speaker 2: keep on doing shows, it'll it'll work yourself out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, that's the only way to work
Speaker 1: through it.
Speaker 3: It's just weird because I feel like, I mean, I
Speaker 3: haven't been doing live stand up shows or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I have done.
Speaker 3: I did a couple streaming ones where I was like,
Speaker 3: this is true torture, Like I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: It felt it felt awful.
Speaker 3: Even if you were doing well, it felt awful, like
Speaker 3: there was no winning.
Speaker 1: And it was just it was hilarious.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's funny that I think, on
Speaker 3: the surface, I would assume everything just and it's fine.
Speaker 3: We all tracked this. We all kind of processed it
Speaker 3: as it went.
Speaker 1: But then it's almost like, but you.
Speaker 3: Step outside, and that's when you learn how fucked up
Speaker 3: you may or may not be. From sitting at home
Speaker 3: for two years. It's like you can't really know until
Speaker 3: you're sitting. Like I was at that dinner, I knew
Speaker 3: two people. Two people were strangers that I met that night.
Speaker 3: Very everyone is super nice, and I still was. It
Speaker 3: felt like seventh grade. It was just like, what in
Speaker 3: the fuck is this insane?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing but I'm talking to strangers for too long.
Speaker 4: But if it's a social situation where I'm it's people
Speaker 4: I should be comfortable around, I clam up like a weirdo. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I'm I'm wasting the time of passers by and
Speaker 4: loved ones by being silent.
Speaker 3: Let's go around in a circle and then and give
Speaker 3: each other ideas about great icebreakers if you're ever in
Speaker 3: that situation. So my idea is something I would say,
Speaker 3: is what's your favorite birthday You've ever had? Something like
Speaker 3: that where it gets people.
Speaker 2: Talking, Oh yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 2: think it's it's just like, what was the thing that
Speaker 2: you remember most about junior high?
Speaker 1: Which is like the.
Speaker 2: Worst part of life.
Speaker 1: Really good.
Speaker 3: Get people to talk about like actual trauma the worst
Speaker 3: part of life.
Speaker 2: Yes, but like distance, I think junior high is the worst.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's your most memorable childhood trauma?
Speaker 1: I'll talk for hours. Yeah, I would love to hear
Speaker 1: that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, because I want to. I think these
Speaker 3: days we want to talk about real shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was so shy and like got bullied a lot
Speaker 2: in junior high. So I would sit on the toilet
Speaker 2: and eat lunch, eat and not be bothered. I would
Speaker 2: eat like a burrito that you know, they were like
Speaker 2: so hot in the inside, like those microwave burritos, the
Speaker 2: microwave burritos that you get in the cafeteria, like.
Speaker 1: A long, a long boy, a long one.
Speaker 2: And I would sit on the toilet and eat it.
Speaker 2: And then people would come into the bathroom and be like,
Speaker 2: why is that stal like a smooth always in that
Speaker 2: Stalt's so weird.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the best thing to be eating on
Speaker 1: a toilet.
Speaker 2: I'll have a toilet and just sitting there eating it,
Speaker 2: like perfectly happy, reading the graffiti and just biding my time.
Speaker 2: I think it was like I just so I wanted
Speaker 2: to be isolated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you needed a moment to yourself. Is it okay?
Speaker 1: And I'm just admitting this.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I still enjoy I will bring food into the
Speaker 4: bathroom with me.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. Yeah, absolutely, I bring beverages in
Speaker 1: the shower.
Speaker 4: I like to wash my insides while I washed my
Speaker 4: out nice with white claw.
Speaker 3: I used to really enjoy a beer in the shower,
Speaker 3: especially if we were getting ready to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: That was a very nineties.
Speaker 3: Early two thousands move well not early two thousands. Stop
Speaker 3: drinking in the nineties, but those in the height of
Speaker 3: my drinking days, when we lived in that crazy house
Speaker 3: on Alexandria. It would be like, oh, we're about to
Speaker 3: have a party, and I have to get myself together
Speaker 3: from the party from last night, and I have to,
Speaker 3: you know, collect my thoughts and wash my hair. So
Speaker 3: I would just be drinking a searvet. It was just
Speaker 3: like trying to be edgy, but like in the privacy
Speaker 3: of my own home.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, that house, the Alexandria House, I always think about, Like,
Speaker 2: I think you and me and Greg were in there
Speaker 2: in the morning drinking baron Jaeger, not even Jaeger. My
Speaker 2: shit was Barren Jaeger. The honey. It comes in like
Speaker 2: a weird like hay container, like it has like a
Speaker 2: raffia jacket that you would take, And then we were
Speaker 2: drinking that in the morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if we'd stayed over.
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd stayed over. Also at that house,
Speaker 2: one time I was pregnant and I took acid and
Speaker 2: I didn't know I was pregnant, but I took the
Speaker 2: acid and then I was like, there's someone in here.
Speaker 1: In my body. Oh wow, And you were right. That
Speaker 1: was that Christmas party.
Speaker 2: This Christmas party, Yeah, And people were.
Speaker 3: Like, we took as at like three o'clock in the afternoon,
Speaker 3: and then the Christmas party started. And I was wearing
Speaker 3: a silver vinyl dress that zipped up the front, and
Speaker 3: first I started with that one of those fifties kind
Speaker 3: of sheer blousey, almost like a night blouse, and I
Speaker 3: was so cold. At one point, someone goes, your lips
Speaker 3: are blue because it was fucking December. It was a
Speaker 3: Christmas party. So then I changed into a turtleneck, a
Speaker 3: turtleneck under the vinyl dress, and people were like, you're
Speaker 3: the best hosts, And I mean, my pupils must have
Speaker 3: been like complete My eyes must have been completely black.
Speaker 3: It was insane and it was just to me. It
Speaker 3: was all like lights and faces and smiles. And that
Speaker 3: was the Christmas party. I think you were in the
Speaker 3: room for this, Margaret, but this is one of my
Speaker 3: favorite memories of all time.
Speaker 1: I went into the and Brian Reagan had the Joy.
Speaker 3: Of Cooking open and he was sarcastically reading it to
Speaker 3: somebody and it was so funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even explain.
Speaker 3: He was just like, oh, half a cup of flour,
Speaker 3: and everyone was just like crazy, so funny.
Speaker 1: It was weird. Wow, how many comics lived in this
Speaker 1: drug den? Uh? It was just me.
Speaker 3: My other two roommates were not comics, but everybody was
Speaker 3: thinking about this too. This was this time where we
Speaker 3: all we spent every hour of the day together, so
Speaker 3: you know, we'd always get together for maybe lunch, definitely dinner.
Speaker 3: Then we'd go do sets and most people were on
Speaker 3: the same show, and then we'd go to Fellini's and
Speaker 3: then we go to someone's house after two am. And
Speaker 3: so probably like that, when Margaret and Greg and I
Speaker 3: woke up at my house, it was just like it
Speaker 3: was just another. It was a Thursday probably yeh, and
Speaker 3: we've got up and we were in insanely hungover, and
Speaker 3: then it was just like, now we have to go
Speaker 3: to toy and meet everybody for lunch.
Speaker 1: It was just like constant. I kind of ran a
Speaker 1: phone tree.
Speaker 3: Where I'd be like, we're all going to go to
Speaker 3: to We're all going to go to toy or it
Speaker 3: was insane.
Speaker 1: It was just sounds fun, though, I mean, I know,
Speaker 1: very fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never had that really, Yeah, I just had
Speaker 4: a domestic situation. When I started comedy. I was home
Speaker 4: right after the show. Well not always.
Speaker 3: I looked out because Margaret moved to LA. Margaret had
Speaker 3: already been living in LA part time. We met in
Speaker 3: San Francisco, so when she would come up there and
Speaker 3: then when I moved to LA, she was my truly
Speaker 3: my one friend. But she like you would go on
Speaker 3: the road and I got to stay at that house.
Speaker 1: But that in that.
Speaker 3: House is where Greg Barrett lived, Laura Milligan lived, Jerry
Speaker 3: Finelli lived sometimes Genie Garoffalo.
Speaker 1: So it was I like basically.
Speaker 3: Was grandfathered into Margaret's friend group.
Speaker 1: Essentially. That's so exciting. Though it was fun. It's a
Speaker 1: piece of comedy history.
Speaker 3: It was very it was very fun and very crazy nineties.
Speaker 2: It was crazy. But fen Fenn and around the corner
Speaker 2: from your house was that's where Greg Barent and David
Speaker 2: Cross lived. Yes, so that was another party house that
Speaker 2: if you would just like walk like down the street
Speaker 2: and they were right around the corner.
Speaker 4: I've heard of that because I used to open for
Speaker 4: Greg a lot and he would tell the stories about
Speaker 4: that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was a good party house.
Speaker 3: There was one party where Kathy Griffin would have a
Speaker 3: Christmas party every year, and she got mad because it
Speaker 3: was when she was on Suddenly Susan and all of
Speaker 3: her comedy stand up friends were embarrassing her in front
Speaker 3: of her Suddenly Susan friends. And remember she ended the
Speaker 3: party early because people were like sliding down the stairs,
Speaker 3: so we.
Speaker 1: All walked down on the street.
Speaker 3: So I just started inviting everybody over to Greg and
Speaker 3: David's house because I was like, oh, well, let's just
Speaker 3: meet there. And I told all everybody at this party
Speaker 3: to go to their house. And then I went home
Speaker 3: so drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Greg called me super mad. He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: so your party started, are you gonna come to it.
Speaker 1: I was like, sorry, I can't come, I'm too drunk.
Speaker 3: That's the best move ever, It's so good.
Speaker 4: I would think that her suddenly Susan friends would love
Speaker 4: watching comedians slide down the banister, you'd.
Speaker 3: Think, I mean, I think it was just a self consciousness.
Speaker 1: It was in that brookshield Yeah, Shields would love to.
Speaker 4: Watch comedian after comedians slide down a handrail.
Speaker 1: I don't know, come against. But she married Chris Henshy,
Speaker 1: so she did love it.
Speaker 2: So she did love it. Is that he was a
Speaker 2: comedy writer.
Speaker 3: He's a comedy writer and he uh, he was a
Speaker 3: regular at Fellini's. And my favorite Chris Henchy memory is
Speaker 3: one night and I mean at this bar we would
Speaker 3: get so drunk and so I mean that's Barren Yeager.
Speaker 3: We were like into subsets of Yeager. Is how alcoholic?
Speaker 3: At least I was for sure. There was one night
Speaker 3: where Chris Henchy was telling me a story and I
Speaker 3: kept taking a cigarette out of a pack and then
Speaker 3: lighting it. Then I would react to a story and
Speaker 3: start gesturing with my hands and then basically and then
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, I was going to smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 3: This this is so long ago. You could still smoke
Speaker 3: in bars. And after a while I went to get
Speaker 3: a cigarette and my pack was empty, and I was like,
Speaker 3: who smoked all my cigarette? And I looked down on
Speaker 3: the ground and I had picked I'd tried to light
Speaker 3: and drop twenty cigarettes.
Speaker 1: That's how drunk. I was, like, not aware of what
Speaker 1: the fuck I was doing, and yet you were just
Speaker 1: throwing them on the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I would like even doing that with one cigarette, but twenty.
Speaker 3: Twenty in a row where it just be kind of
Speaker 3: like I would get caught up in whatever the story was,
Speaker 3: and that's how drunk we were, and then just like
Speaker 3: fall out of my hands and I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I need to get a cigarette.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so normal. It's so normal, though, to put away
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty drinks something like that at like Pedro's
Speaker 2: or fellini I mean, but Fellini's. We would never go
Speaker 2: there until at least two in the morning. They would
Speaker 2: usually stay up until about.
Speaker 1: Four, Yeah, they would. They would lock the door, so
Speaker 1: we got to stay there after hours because we were
Speaker 1: friends with the bartenders. It was so it was really bad.
Speaker 3: And it's a miracle that no one died or because
Speaker 3: we we were also driving.
Speaker 1: Yes, there was there was no Uber, but there was
Speaker 1: no Uber.
Speaker 2: There was no tax There's no taxis in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Hollywood. Okay, we didn't have far to go.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's the other crazy thing too.
Speaker 1: Who is driving?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I drove all the time.
Speaker 2: I must have been driving, but I can't remember if
Speaker 2: I was driving or not. I must have been.
Speaker 3: You must have been, and I was, for sure. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a true.
Speaker 4: Blur back in you know, fifteen years ago. I would
Speaker 4: and people always frowned on it. But I just had
Speaker 4: a blanket and pillow in my car, and if I
Speaker 4: had too much to drink, I always slept in my car.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I got my pepper spray and my brass knuckles, but
Speaker 4: I'd sleep in my car all that time.
Speaker 1: That's smart. Actually, yeah, it's actually way better.
Speaker 4: And it never get a good night's sleep, but it
Speaker 4: is kind of nice to wake up at the crack
Speaker 4: of dawn and drive home with the windows down at yeah,
Speaker 4: five thirty am.
Speaker 2: But's safer safely, sure, Yeah, it's better than driving drunk.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't yeah, I don't remember how we
Speaker 2: got home every night, but we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we loved.
Speaker 3: We were incredibly lucky, and like I think of it
Speaker 3: driving in the daytime now sometimes of like you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes just every once in a while, like somebody will
Speaker 3: step off the sidewalk and then you stop short and
Speaker 3: the I'm just like, how did that not happen to
Speaker 3: us at night while we were drunk driving? Like it's
Speaker 3: just bone chilling to think of how close we could
Speaker 3: have been to something really horrible happening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. We got out of it. We got
Speaker 1: out of it, and we moved on.
Speaker 2: We moved on, But it was Yeah, I think about
Speaker 2: I think it's just like being young and just the
Speaker 2: way that I'm so glad that social media didn't exist.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine if we'd had that then, Like we've
Speaker 2: just been so embarrassing, like all of the things, like
Speaker 2: all the things that we didn't even take photographs, it's
Speaker 2: all just in our memory.
Speaker 3: Yes, I you know what, there's one night from Fleeni's
Speaker 3: that I have photographs of that are so hilarious because
Speaker 3: I was at that point, I was on fen fen,
Speaker 3: which was essentially speed.
Speaker 4: And you know, there's a lawsuit, you maybe have a
Speaker 4: lot of money coming to but well, lawsuit.
Speaker 1: I'm sure on TV.
Speaker 3: But my eyes in every picture, like my eyelids are
Speaker 3: nowhere near my irises. There's it's I have the widest,
Speaker 3: craziest eyes and like smiling, like where you can see
Speaker 3: my gumbs in the back. It's just scary. It's like
Speaker 3: it must have been.
Speaker 4: Sounds like you were just happy, just smiling, surrounded by
Speaker 4: twenty cigarettes. It was just I don't it was crazy.
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, it was a dangerous time and unhealthy.
Speaker 4: But all this talk has made me want to go
Speaker 4: to a house party.
Speaker 1: I know, right, still be fun.
Speaker 2: They can still be fun.
Speaker 1: They can't.
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think a house party, it's
Speaker 2: like also a house party full of comics I think
Speaker 2: would be fun. Yes, now, just because we never see
Speaker 2: each other so well, Karen.
Speaker 4: A, Karen's going to throw another party, right, Karen, I will,
Speaker 4: I will, and Margaret you should go. I'm inviting people
Speaker 4: to other people's parties like you.
Speaker 1: I deserve it. Let's go to David Crosses.
Speaker 3: Yes, let's get let's get the old gang back together.
Speaker 3: Remember they would play like David and Greggs house. There
Speaker 3: would always be like craps, a craps game on in
Speaker 3: the driveway and there's somebody.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a celebrity. Some celebrity came.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was Vince Vaughan and played craps and everybody
Speaker 3: took the money and walked away.
Speaker 1: So incredible.
Speaker 4: And he was in Swingers. Yeah he did all that research.
Speaker 2: It was either Vince vaugh or Toby Hauss. Toby Haus
Speaker 2: was like a weirdly like at every party too, oh yes,
Speaker 2: kind of vaguely like looking like Frank Sinatra.
Speaker 4: Yeah he is the guy that acted like Frank Sinatra
Speaker 4: on MTV.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, that's all I know of him.
Speaker 3: A great character actor and he also he reminded me
Speaker 3: of like he wasn't a stand up per se.
Speaker 1: He could if.
Speaker 3: He wanted to, and he was an amazing live performer
Speaker 3: and stuff, but he was always the one that, like
Speaker 3: when I was being my most idiotic and then I
Speaker 3: would look over and if Tobyhus was standing there, the
Speaker 3: shame would pass over me because he was like a
Speaker 3: real adult with a real career. It felt like where
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, my shit isn't going to fly
Speaker 3: over that direction.
Speaker 4: He also has one of those faces like he's always
Speaker 4: disappointed in you, just resting disappointment face he does.
Speaker 2: He just looks so cool, and it was that weird
Speaker 2: nineties as nineteen forties.
Speaker 3: Yes, he looked like a dust bowl, a migrant who
Speaker 3: had come out. He was wearing the same jeans for
Speaker 3: five years. He also did the thing that I loved
Speaker 3: where he crossed his legs like kind of like a woman,
Speaker 3: like his knee went all the way over, and then
Speaker 3: he would cross his hands while he was smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 3: And that was exactly how my uncle Steve used to
Speaker 3: do it. And it was just very he There's something
Speaker 3: about Toby hus that is just so like he's like
Speaker 3: a lead character, and even though it's supposed to be
Speaker 3: your life, you're like, oh, the lead character's here, Like
Speaker 3: he's a legend.
Speaker 2: I just think of him like outside of Laura Milligan's house,
Speaker 2: because Laura had a it was like a shanty or
Speaker 2: a shack that was so it was like they had
Speaker 2: built it themselves, Her and Mike built it themselves up
Speaker 2: planks that they found that like the flea market. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was just so incredible, like rustic farmhouse yep. And
Speaker 2: you know Toby has standing outside with just like that
Speaker 2: grapes of wrath kind of drag Yep with his legs
Speaker 2: swung all the way over. I know exactly what you
Speaker 2: mean about the cross leg. It's like a feminine thing
Speaker 2: that looks really masculine on him.
Speaker 3: Incredibly masculine and like a lee buttoned down cowboy shirt
Speaker 3: with purlescent buttons.
Speaker 1: He's just the whole look is you know what it was.
Speaker 3: There's hipsters in LA that would try to buy those
Speaker 3: clothes and wear them, but he actually had already owned them,
Speaker 3: like he was the real deal.
Speaker 1: Like that people were kind of trying to dress leg
Speaker 1: or look like.
Speaker 2: Well, like people would be in Japan would be taking
Speaker 2: that picture to their hair dresser and could you make
Speaker 2: my hair look like this? Like it's that kind of
Speaker 2: like so iconic. Yes, it's very interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the greatest. Yeah, that shack party. There was
Speaker 3: one d lore through me a birthday party one time,
Speaker 3: and I was three hours late to it because of
Speaker 3: the fucking fen Fenn. I could never leave my house.
Speaker 3: I would start getting ready, but you know this is
Speaker 3: like don't do drugs.
Speaker 1: They suck you up so.
Speaker 3: Badly where I just like I would be doing my
Speaker 3: eye makeup for like two hours, like I couldn't get
Speaker 3: out of the mirror.
Speaker 1: So, so, way, what did fen Fenn do.
Speaker 4: It's not related to fentanyl or fentanyl or whatever, right,
Speaker 4: it's it's it's a it's.
Speaker 1: A diet pill.
Speaker 2: It's like an old school like diepile from I think
Speaker 2: maybe the nineteen thirties, but they mixed it with another
Speaker 2: diet pill that was like a downer, so you had
Speaker 2: an up and a down at the same time, so
Speaker 2: you didn't go as like crazy. So it wasn't like
Speaker 2: a mother's little helper kind of sixties situation. It was
Speaker 2: like kind of supposed to even you out, but it
Speaker 2: made you really nuts.
Speaker 4: And it is a simultaneous upper and downer classically, how
Speaker 4: you die.
Speaker 2: In your I mean I think sleepball.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the old speed ball.
Speaker 2: They all they all go out like that.
Speaker 3: So but it made you lose weight. So I mean
Speaker 3: I lost thirty pounds in a month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty school.
Speaker 3: That went Karen, are you eating one lettus sleep a day?
Speaker 1: And we used to say that to each other all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: I remember that, and I was so mad that it
Speaker 3: would comment on It was like I truly dropped half
Speaker 3: of half of my I was not half of my weight,
Speaker 3: but a significant amount of weight in one month.
Speaker 1: It was crazy.
Speaker 2: But I got them from this costumer who had worked
Speaker 2: in like the sort of Disney lot in the nineties
Speaker 2: when I was doing television there. So there was like,
Speaker 2: you know, all of these actresses, because everybody in the
Speaker 2: nineties was really, really thin. Yeah, so there was no
Speaker 2: way to for me, like, my body's just not going
Speaker 2: to do that on its own, Like I can't do
Speaker 2: that with diet and exercise. There's just no way I
Speaker 2: could ever imagine. So we were all getting them through
Speaker 2: the same sort of channels there because all doctors in Burbank.
Speaker 3: All doctors in Burbank that you never really saw their face.
Speaker 3: It was all very shady. But and then when you
Speaker 3: basically were like, oh this has made me go insane,
Speaker 3: there's no one to go back to be like, hey,
Speaker 3: can I get this adjusted. It would be like the
Speaker 3: office would be abandoned. Yeah, it was so shady.
Speaker 2: It was so shady, But it was like, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, now there's a like a lot of
Speaker 2: lawsuits around, like class action lawsuits around that drug. But
Speaker 2: for a minute, it just seemed like the promised Land,
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of like dieting and exercise. You
Speaker 2: just didn't have to think about food. Yeah, you had
Speaker 2: that pill.
Speaker 3: I did not care for the first time in my life.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh yeah, whatever you were relating one,
Speaker 1: let us leave a day today. It's insanity.
Speaker 3: Well what we did was shop at the Beverly Center compulsively.
Speaker 2: And Melrose Avenue and Melrose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of shopping in a kind
Speaker 3: of like frenzied panic about nothing.
Speaker 2: I couldn't get enough shirts with like polo shirts with
Speaker 2: like a zipper, like with a ring, Like I couldn't
Speaker 2: get enough things with a zipper with a ring, which
Speaker 2: is the most like nineties thing is like any kind
Speaker 2: of zipper with a ring, and like tiny baretts.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was very belt. It was like Brady Bunch cosplay.
Speaker 3: There was a god like a lot of polyester outfits
Speaker 3: where you're like this smells someone else wore it forty
Speaker 3: years ago and I'm boiling hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was. It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of men's pajama bottoms, you know, really
Speaker 3: stiff things from ex Girl.
Speaker 1: Yes on Vermont where you.
Speaker 2: Would like buy you know there that was a show
Speaker 2: store that was next to the Beastie Boys store.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you would.
Speaker 2: It was like the girl's leg of the Beastie Boys store,
Speaker 2: and so you would just buy whatever. I think it
Speaker 2: was Kim Gordon's line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just take anything they had.
Speaker 2: Anything didn't matter. And it was always very stiff and painful.
Speaker 4: When I lived with When I lived with Tig, she
Speaker 4: for a few days, our house was a drop off
Speaker 4: point for Katrina things, boxes of diapers and things. I
Speaker 4: had to move my bed out and this I was
Speaker 4: moving furniture out so we could move these boxes in.
Speaker 4: And Kim Gordon came into our living room and I'm
Speaker 4: a big Sonic Youth fan. It was like the first
Speaker 4: CD I purchased with Sonic Youth, uh from Columbia house.
Speaker 4: I put a stamp down anyway, I did not even
Speaker 4: I know that Tig didn't know who. Tig just had
Speaker 4: one arrowsmith because that and.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you can put the stuff.
Speaker 4: And I was just talking to some lady and then
Speaker 4: she left and it was like that was uh something
Speaker 4: gorgon Kim Gordon And I'm like, Kim Gordon from Sonic
Speaker 4: Youth was just in my house. It was the coolest thing.
Speaker 2: She is the coolest. I mean, she's incredibly cool.
Speaker 1: Do you know her?
Speaker 2: I I know, I'm friends with her on like Twitter
Speaker 2: and Instagram. Yeah, and I'm I'm a huge Sonic Youth fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 2: Love her, just her, just and I did love ex
Speaker 2: Girl actually still exists in Japan.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: And it's not it's a different kind of look now.
Speaker 4: But you say it was next to the Beastie Boys store.
Speaker 4: Is the is it Paul's boutique?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Or is that just a store? On that album? It
Speaker 1: was almost like the.
Speaker 3: First tennis shoes store or whatever they're called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a streetwear like for the first
Speaker 2: one of the first streetwear sort of outlets, places that
Speaker 2: you would get like sort of the big Heart jeans
Speaker 2: and was.
Speaker 1: It extra large? It was extra large? And then it
Speaker 1: was I'm a I'm a fashion man about town. Look,
Speaker 1: there's a gorilla graphic x X large. Right. I think
Speaker 1: they still make stuff.
Speaker 2: But we lived on Vermont. It was like a muck
Speaker 2: Books and it was EK which EK is still there.
Speaker 1: They're still there, which I love, And that is it?
Speaker 3: A muck Books that had like all those graphic novels
Speaker 3: that we would read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and all of the true crime books that
Speaker 2: I read came from a muck Books, and that guy
Speaker 2: uh now owns an Etsy shop where he sells a
Speaker 2: lot of the stuff that he had liquidated his you know,
Speaker 2: inventory from a mock books that he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: brick and mortar store, but he has a store on Etsy.
Speaker 1: Now, your parents had a bookstore, right.
Speaker 2: My parents had a bookstore on Polk Street called Paperback Traffic.
Speaker 2: It's a big tobacco store now where you would get
Speaker 2: get like vapes and vape liquid, nape juice. But it
Speaker 2: was a big gay bookstore in the sixties, seventies, eighties,
Speaker 2: and nineties.
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the either of you seen the documentary
Speaker 4: about Circus of Books? Yes, it is so and it's
Speaker 4: the most unlikely older couple that got into making gay porn.
Speaker 1: It was such a cool story.
Speaker 2: I love great story. Yeah, it's a great it's a
Speaker 2: great documentary.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And guess what that place is now it's a vape store. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a weed dispensary. It's a weed I see a
Speaker 1: lot of people vaping. I didn't, of course, it's probably
Speaker 1: marijuana vapor. But yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: What I missed that. I mean I'm sobs so don't
Speaker 2: do anything. Yeah, but I do miss weed vaping, not
Speaker 2: weed smoking. Yeah, and certainly not dabs. Dabs would just
Speaker 2: kill me. Daves give me das.
Speaker 4: I pretend to know what it is is that when
Speaker 4: there's black stuff at the end of a paper clip
Speaker 4: and you kind of freebase it or was I doing.
Speaker 1: That's that's just that's like hash oil. Okay, I've done
Speaker 1: that a closet for twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah's to the same thing. But it's like you get
Speaker 2: like a nail like which is a sort of a
Speaker 2: some kind of a base that you heat up with
Speaker 2: a huge like flamethrower, get like red hot, and then
Speaker 2: you put resin on that. So it's like smoking the
Speaker 2: same it's the same thing that you would smoke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when we would feel like you're doing heroin
Speaker 4: or something like. There's when you're there's implements and you
Speaker 4: got to heat up a thing and put another thing
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 1: That's that's what would happen.
Speaker 2: The blowtorch though, like you need like a lot of
Speaker 2: but tane. You can't just do it with the lighter.
Speaker 2: You need something that blows fire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that should be the line of demarcation right there.
Speaker 2: Too much, but it's the vape.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: There's a building in Missoula that David Lynch. I guess
Speaker 4: he's from Missoula, Montana, believe it or not. And there
Speaker 4: was a building that that blue velvet. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: did the hash oil thing and I hid in a closet.
Speaker 4: I ended up after twenty hours finally calling my dad
Speaker 4: and saying I smoked something. I'm so, I'm dying in
Speaker 4: a closet and he had to come pick me up
Speaker 4: at this scary hotel. It was just imagine the hotel
Speaker 4: from a blue velvet, and that's being paranoid and hidden
Speaker 4: in a closet. I never did this stuff again anything
Speaker 4: but tane based.
Speaker 1: Too terrible, terrible much.
Speaker 3: It's for the young, but there's just no reason I
Speaker 3: was drugs.
Speaker 1: I was twenty. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you're gonna people will do them, but sure,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like kids these days might
Speaker 3: be a little bit smarter. I felt like I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I gotta do this, like I'm twenty three, let's do
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're fun ring vodka in their butts and stuff.
Speaker 4: There's other things they're doing. But I think drugs are
Speaker 4: just whack. If you offer a kid drugs now, they'll
Speaker 4: be like, no thanks, loser, no way, dude.
Speaker 2: Drug during like k off of Scott's house key, like
Speaker 2: somewhere South just go with like the hotel on knob
Speaker 2: Hill and doing bumps of k off of Scott's house
Speaker 2: key and then laying in the bed like two old ladies,
Speaker 2: like just Timm and Me in the bed like.
Speaker 1: It's so it was a weird k is a weird drug.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that even a fun drug?
Speaker 1: I don't remember any good drugs? Did you fall into
Speaker 1: a K hole? Yeah? Is that what a K hole is? Probably?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just you know, you just want to get in bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember we did ecstasy one time.
Speaker 3: It was me, you, Ebbie and Scott in your room
Speaker 3: in that apartment that was on like fourteenth or something fourteenth.
Speaker 2: It was by by Tweak or Safeway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we did ecstasy and you guys were
Speaker 3: all like, whoa, it's amazing, And I was just sitting
Speaker 3: there and it was just it felt like I'd used
Speaker 3: dander shampoo. My my scalp was lightly tingling, and that
Speaker 3: was the only difference and I was like, there's something
Speaker 3: wrong with me. But I was like, and remember the
Speaker 3: lights were out and we were listening to crowded house
Speaker 3: and they smoking, and that was like our drug night.
Speaker 1: That was the best.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah that I think was it Together Alone
Speaker 2: or maybe I don't know which record was it.
Speaker 1: I think it was Together.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, with like four seasons in one day and those.
Speaker 3: Big hits yeah, and those beautiful like you know, the
Speaker 3: oral composition of it, like there there's a bunch of
Speaker 3: shit happening, and so then if you're on drugs, it's
Speaker 3: like even better sounding.
Speaker 2: So many different sounds and we were listening to one
Speaker 2: on a compact disc.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Many things like us very compressed.
Speaker 1: It was really good. What a time during.
Speaker 2: That It was different Yeah, oh sorry, it was different
Speaker 2: than doing drug rugs at Ramona because Ramona felt like
Speaker 2: we were we were really like stepping out, like we
Speaker 2: were going to an exotical casion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ramona, Wait, that's the mine in Scott's apartment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I was trying to remember the name of that
Speaker 3: fucking street the other day.
Speaker 1: Oh, so I could not fucking remember.
Speaker 3: I was just was driving me insane. But that apartment
Speaker 3: we were talking. I was talking about how I used
Speaker 3: to sneak into Scott's room and steal pot out of
Speaker 3: his drawer, and I knew he was trying to see
Speaker 3: if I was doing that, so I would go in
Speaker 3: there and look around for like a hair that he
Speaker 3: had laid over it.
Speaker 1: I was like the most.
Speaker 3: The high level criminal, which just like I'm sure if
Speaker 3: I said to him, like, hey, if I give you
Speaker 3: twenty bucks, can I just some of your plot? But
Speaker 3: instead I would just be like going in and breaking
Speaker 3: things off and taking the hair and putting it on
Speaker 3: the desk and taking the pot and then putting it
Speaker 3: back like.
Speaker 1: It was dirty. It was dirty business. It was.
Speaker 3: It was funny, not nice behavior desperate times at the Gap.
Speaker 1: Was this like early two thousands or late nineties? It
Speaker 1: was early nineties, man, early nineties.
Speaker 2: This is like ninety one, ninety two, ninety three.
Speaker 1: I was like around that I just taken and I
Speaker 1: was in algebra.
Speaker 3: Oh man, no, baby. I was living the life in
Speaker 3: San Francisco. But like all of my friends that work,
Speaker 3: I'm still friends with a bunch of the people that
Speaker 3: worked there, Like do you remember Jason Lopez, Dave Mesberg,
Speaker 3: Jason Lopez.
Speaker 4: There was like he came to one of my shows
Speaker 4: and introduced himself to me as your good friend.
Speaker 3: Yes, he has been my friend since I was nineteen,
Speaker 3: and he has He used to go to the Improv
Speaker 3: when we would go do sets on Mondays or Sundays
Speaker 3: or whenever we would go do sets. He has been
Speaker 3: there like watching me do comedy. And then once I.
Speaker 1: Started doing podcasts, he's listened to every podcast.
Speaker 4: So he's listening right now, right now, he really is.
Speaker 4: He was very Yeah, he was very sweet. I remember
Speaker 4: meeting him and he said he was your old friend,
Speaker 4: and I believed him.
Speaker 1: He was in love with Greg Proops.
Speaker 3: So anytime Proops was going to be the headliner on
Speaker 3: the showcase show on was it on Monday night or
Speaker 3: Sunday at the Improv?
Speaker 1: Do you remember Monday?
Speaker 2: It was Mondays? It was Sundays was the punchline. So
Speaker 2: Mondays was the Improv because they would have the National
Speaker 2: Theater of the Deranged would do the improv show before yep,
Speaker 2: and then they would do so they had their own
Speaker 2: sort of thing, and then they would do the comedy
Speaker 2: showcase and always Greg was there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it always it was so what a time what
Speaker 3: a cool place to come up. I mean, I'm so grateful. Cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like it doesn't feel like that
Speaker 2: much time has passed either, you know, in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways like comics kind of like I saw Greg
Speaker 2: today Actually we did an Instagram live. I was like
Speaker 2: leaving and he he was coming in or vice version.
Speaker 2: But it's like I don't feel like it like it
Speaker 2: was that long ago, right, in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's true, but so much shit has happened.
Speaker 1: It's just weird.
Speaker 3: It's like it's it's a very it was such a
Speaker 3: crazy group of people all trying to do like the
Speaker 3: same thing at the same time, and then you know
Speaker 3: everyone kind of just arcd out and did took their path. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just crazy.
Speaker 4: That's I wanted to move there around that time when
Speaker 4: I was still in high school, just because that's where
Speaker 4: you moved to be a skateboarder.
Speaker 2: Do there?
Speaker 1: Just go like yeah, because of all the hills. Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 4: Bombed downhills And uh, I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad
Speaker 4: my dad said no, you should go to college here
Speaker 4: in Montana. But I love that city. It's so exciting.
Speaker 4: Do you guys still love going back there, or how
Speaker 4: do you feel about this?
Speaker 2: I was just there, I went to Actually I was
Speaker 2: in Sacramento on Saturday. I was going to tell you
Speaker 2: I did it. I did a thing at the Cress Theater. Oh,
Speaker 2: and there was just I mean, I'm like the old
Speaker 2: lady now, because there was a some kind of like
Speaker 2: drum end bass, like very like dubstep concert in the
Speaker 2: park outside my hotel room. And it was making me
Speaker 2: so mad. These kids with their dumb step and stool
Speaker 2: loud turn that bash nectar down.
Speaker 1: Like I was Carnival something like that.
Speaker 2: Like it was so loud and it was really infuriating
Speaker 2: and I just was like it was bleeding into my
Speaker 2: my super high density ear plugs and I could hear
Speaker 2: it even through my earplugs, and I was just like fuming.
Speaker 2: But San Francisco is very different now, Like it's very
Speaker 2: like none of none of the real sort of landmarks
Speaker 2: are there that we knew of. Like all of the
Speaker 2: stores are different and bar it's just different. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: bars are different, everything, the restaurants too, everything's different.
Speaker 3: And also I don't think the especially like the way
Speaker 3: I lived where that first house we lived on a
Speaker 3: Clayton and Waller with Christy and Dave. I think I
Speaker 3: paid three hundred and fifty dollars a month for my room. No,
Speaker 3: it was the room under the stairs that I think
Speaker 3: used to had been a broom closet.
Speaker 2: But it was a Victorian I mean it was like
Speaker 2: it was a great apartment, very beautiful apartment with huge
Speaker 2: windows and like bay windows in that front. I mean
Speaker 2: it was like a classic San Francisco Victorian house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got I mean those guys paid, so
Speaker 3: our rent must have been thirteen to fifty a month,
Speaker 3: because I think Dave and Christy paid five and I've
Speaker 3: paid three fifty.
Speaker 1: And now that house is fifteen million.
Speaker 3: Jo Really like, I think if you rented that first
Speaker 3: floor apartment of the Victorian house, you would pay five
Speaker 3: thousand a month, especially because it's.
Speaker 1: Upper hat at least. Yeah, my comedy hometown was Off Texas.
Speaker 4: I moved there in like ninety nine, and Margaret, I
Speaker 4: remember you being there. I just remember how cool you
Speaker 4: were because you were politically active. I didn't know comics
Speaker 4: could make have uh sway things politically like you did.
Speaker 1: Although yeah, the.
Speaker 4: Same sex marriage stuff way early two thousands and I.
Speaker 1: But wasn't there. I maybe it wasn't in Austin.
Speaker 4: I don't know where it was, but didn't like police
Speaker 4: come to your I remember some kind.
Speaker 2: Of thing that happened with me and Bruce Daniels. I
Speaker 2: believe it was like we had protesters in like Houston
Speaker 2: or something, which was super weird. Oh, it was a
Speaker 2: whole like anti gay thing. And then there was like
Speaker 2: a bomb threat in a There was like mine threats
Speaker 2: in different places like Houston and Atlanta. Sometimes. The early
Speaker 2: two thousands was really weird to get like trolled by conservatives, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it was very it was pretty violent, you know,
Speaker 2: and you would get like, yeah.
Speaker 4: That's what I bring it up. It's like your way
Speaker 4: ahead of your time. I mean that that kind of
Speaker 4: thing probably happens to comedians all the time.
Speaker 1: Now, well it's because of Instagram. Very weird.
Speaker 2: It's definitely different.
Speaker 4: That was like early two thousands, right, I remember I
Speaker 4: thought you got arrested or something. I didn't know the
Speaker 4: whole story, but yeah, I thought it was so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very cool. It was very cool. Thank you.
Speaker 2: But it's definitely something that I think now people sort
Speaker 2: of take for granted, you know, political comics. But back
Speaker 2: then it was definitely different.
Speaker 1: It was for sure, and it was the kind of
Speaker 1: thing work, good work.
Speaker 3: Did you see that thing when this Britney Spears the
Speaker 3: conservatorship and everything, all that stuff came up and there
Speaker 3: was somebody posted the cover of Details magazine from two
Speaker 3: thousand and three and she's on the cover, but all
Speaker 3: of the little like headline kind of things of what
Speaker 3: the different articles were in that magazine were so atrociously
Speaker 3: awful and agro and missa genistic and crazy, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, that's right, that was just regular to
Speaker 3: us like that. The generation that we came up in
Speaker 3: in comedy, especially female comics, were so used to this
Speaker 3: kind of like serious ship and real active and like
Speaker 3: very pointed misogynistic shit, like just constantly, and you were
Speaker 3: just kind of like, yeah, that's just how it is.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a normal joke with her and the
Speaker 4: little kids from Full House, like ooh, countdown to eighteenth yoursday,
Speaker 4: like on a mainstream magazine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: It is so disgusting, but it's like even dogs Dogs.
Speaker 1: She didn't like it. She didn't like it at all.
Speaker 2: Well, she's like Amanda Bynes, his next, she needs to.
Speaker 1: Be needs to be dated for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was such a it was like a
Speaker 2: reaction against feminism because I think it was like the
Speaker 2: Riot girl movement had really made an impression on people
Speaker 2: and bands like Hole and all of this stuff that
Speaker 2: was coming out of Seattle, like everything like was going
Speaker 2: on that was a real testament to being a woman
Speaker 2: and like Lilith Fair and stuff like that. So there
Speaker 2: was this kind of counter thing of like, now we're
Speaker 2: post feminism, we can make fun of women because they're equals, right,
Speaker 2: their equals right.
Speaker 3: Oh but it wasn't well because it wasn't funny. It
Speaker 3: was like countdown to their eighteenth birthday where.
Speaker 1: It's like it especially look at this is some whoever's.
Speaker 3: At the center of this has an issue that they
Speaker 3: need to sign.
Speaker 1: I didn't make that up, No, no, no, that was what
Speaker 1: I was talking about.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like a disturbing And also then you
Speaker 3: think about that where it was like yeah it was
Speaker 3: Britney Spears and it was Christina Aguilera and they were
Speaker 3: being dressed up like school girls, and they were part
Speaker 3: of a machine that was absolutely you know, like guiding
Speaker 3: them that way isn't like this is my artistic expression.
Speaker 2: It's really scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no wonder we were on so many drugs. What
Speaker 1: we spos to.
Speaker 2: Well doing to be a smart woman then was to
Speaker 2: really kind of like always be gas lit by society
Speaker 2: and be questioning your choices and questioning your presence. And
Speaker 2: in comedy it was really hard to know like where
Speaker 2: do we belong or where should we exist? Even I
Speaker 2: think that's why I I we all like really worshiped
Speaker 2: Jenny Garoffalo because she was so sure and who she
Speaker 2: was what she was doing, Like how can somebody be.
Speaker 1: So sure from the beginning?
Speaker 3: Yeah for real and so funny like yeah and yeah,
Speaker 3: kind of the permission to the permission to be that
Speaker 3: way and to kind of really try to try to
Speaker 3: work to be that way as opposed to working to please,
Speaker 3: you know, the audience, which probably is predominantly men. They're
Speaker 3: just it was just such a weird, like looking back now,
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, yeah, there were these decisions we
Speaker 3: were all kind of making without discussing it because it
Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't of the time at all. And in fact,
Speaker 3: that was back when like when people would be asked
Speaker 3: actresses would be asked if they were feminists back then,
Speaker 3: and it would be like, oh no, I like everybody.
Speaker 3: They would give these answers that would break to my heart.
Speaker 3: It would just be like wait off, like why would
Speaker 3: you say that? Thinking that it would be the easiest
Speaker 3: thing in the world to, yes, declare yourself a feminist
Speaker 3: because you're a successful woman being interviewed for a magazine,
Speaker 3: and it would be just be like, oh no, I
Speaker 3: don't like any of that stuff that alienates people, where
Speaker 3: it's like you don't like being paid the same as
Speaker 3: the guy that does the same job as you, Like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I didn't know. I didn't realize that's what
Speaker 4: it meant.
Speaker 2: Will you see the one have to get into a
Speaker 2: fight because there was this idea that feminists were like
Speaker 2: angry and man hating and had to wear overalls or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, maybe it's a way of dismissing it.
Speaker 4: I don't want to get in that argument or even
Speaker 4: that discussion right now, so I'll just say I like everyone,
Speaker 4: so we can move on to.
Speaker 2: I would wear overalls with like a bra, Like who
Speaker 2: is this person? Like that's so weird to me now,
Speaker 2: Like the last time.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all it was in fashion and it
Speaker 3: was that kind of thing where it was like that's
Speaker 3: that thrift stor thing of like make an outfit out
Speaker 3: of this old garbage. But the time I was on
Speaker 3: TV the America's Funniest People, I was wearing overall short
Speaker 3: oh how cute overalls on the top and then cut
Speaker 3: off at the knees and rolled up.
Speaker 1: That's a door party at the bottom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny because I knew you. And when
Speaker 4: that I saw that in a rerun you I don't
Speaker 4: know where you were.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like the Venice Beach. It was
Speaker 1: old sack.
Speaker 3: I just started stand up like three months before I
Speaker 3: did that.
Speaker 1: Well, it was like a Valley Shakespeare blades.
Speaker 4: Hey, I remember thinking it was. I remember thinking it
Speaker 4: was funny. It's like, well that wasn't a home video.
Speaker 4: That was just early comedian where.
Speaker 1: Yep, yeah they were.
Speaker 3: They told everybody come down and you might be on TV.
Speaker 3: And then I drove down there with Dave. I'll never
Speaker 3: forget that. I drove down there. We drove by and
Speaker 3: there was like a crowd. There was just one guy
Speaker 3: with a you know, like a camera on his shoulder
Speaker 3: and a person holding the mic and then like a
Speaker 3: small crowd, probably fifteen people, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, keep going, I can't do this, like I keep.
Speaker 3: Driving, and Dave's like noking, and you're going to go and.
Speaker 1: Do it, and he made me do it.
Speaker 4: And the other people were doing magic tricks or handstands
Speaker 4: and were like.
Speaker 3: Knock knock jokes. It was like, you know, it was
Speaker 3: America's funniest people. It was just like, what do you
Speaker 3: got funny?
Speaker 1: Tell us? How are you funny?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: I still couldn't do that. We got to start somewhere.
Speaker 4: This isn't the time of the place, and I'd walk away.
Speaker 3: I can't just be funny off the top of my head.
Speaker 3: I mean it was that too. Was that kind of
Speaker 3: thing where starting stand up was such a scary thing,
Speaker 3: like I wanted to do it so bad, but I
Speaker 3: was so scared. Like the first time I did it,
Speaker 3: I've told the story a thousand times on this podcast,
Speaker 3: but I went hysterically blind for like five seconds before
Speaker 3: I did my first set.
Speaker 1: And it was that kind of thing, but somehow I
Speaker 1: did it anyway.
Speaker 3: And then once you're kind of over that hulmp, It's
Speaker 3: like then you're in the mix.
Speaker 1: And you're like, Okay, what's next and where do I go?
Speaker 1: And how do you know? Where do I do sets?
Speaker 1: And how do I keep doing this?
Speaker 2: Was that at the Metro?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's right, Yeah, the Metro.
Speaker 4: That's why we all of our stories are about drinking
Speaker 4: and doing drugs because I was a pretty good kid.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I drank in college, but I was so
Speaker 4: scared to be on stage because who the hell is comfortable?
Speaker 1: Oh, it's totally normal that I'm in front of people.
Speaker 4: Of course I drank in order to be It's it's
Speaker 4: like an occupational hazard. And if you live somewhere like
Speaker 4: Austin where it's like, hey, here's your cigarettes and your
Speaker 4: your open my comedy kit and your shiner beer. I
Speaker 4: every night was how I would get on stage. Otherwise
Speaker 4: I don't think I would have done it. Not that
Speaker 4: I'm crediting alcohol with starting my career, but it kind
Speaker 4: of did. It's just it unfortunately sticks because it's also
Speaker 4: very addictive. Yeah yeah, yeah, no more no more sober
Speaker 4: sober stage time.
Speaker 1: Well, certainly nobody's better performance.
Speaker 3: So it helps you get no, it never has, but
Speaker 3: then once you're there, you actually have to do something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have actual performance and it sort of
Speaker 2: it just gets in the way later, like, but it
Speaker 2: does help you get the over the fear or the dread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. And then afterwards everything the celebration of I
Speaker 1: just did that. So I'm going to drink nineteen beers
Speaker 1: no fun or.
Speaker 4: Or I didn't do well. Let me have eighteen piers
Speaker 4: because I didn't do well. It's one lass beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll by having one less beer.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'll drink a whole bottle of Maker's Mark
Speaker 2: and then I'll call up a Pilates commercial.
Speaker 1: Or machine will do it for me. This machine will make.
Speaker 2: Me do it all.
Speaker 4: I hope that machine finally shows.
Speaker 1: Up, Margaret, it's still not here.
Speaker 4: It's so hard, you know, they make that same thing
Speaker 4: happened with this refrigerator I ordered.
Speaker 1: Karen's tired of hearing about it.
Speaker 3: Chris ordered himself a four foot refrigerator from across the country.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got it was like retro. It was
Speaker 1: maroon a snag. It's like that but nicer.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it looks like a classic hot rod for
Speaker 4: a dad to have Coca A collection. Yes, it's got
Speaker 4: flames up the side and a spider Man mural.
Speaker 1: But it took I ordered.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to get it from home to or whatever,
Speaker 4: so I ordered it from some old guy and he
Speaker 4: put it on a post a note and it fell
Speaker 4: behind a desk whatever.
Speaker 1: It took like five months.
Speaker 4: But maybe that's what's happening with your pilates machine, Tony
Speaker 4: Little is.
Speaker 3: Just that's like the operator at that place is like
Speaker 3: finally moves over some like some papers over and it's like, what's.
Speaker 1: The oh shoe two four h oh? I got to
Speaker 1: express this. We don't even make those anywhore.
Speaker 3: I recently moved and then got rid of a bunch
Speaker 3: of stuff that was in my garage, and there was
Speaker 3: a pilates machine that I had ordered and I had
Speaker 3: never touched it.
Speaker 1: So it came.
Speaker 3: I set it up, and then I put it in
Speaker 3: a closet and never just never even tried to use it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I have yoga mats that my cat had
Speaker 2: pete all over that I'd never even enrolled. They're in
Speaker 2: the garden. It's like, I just I don't know why
Speaker 2: I think buying it's enough.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything right that moment that
Speaker 3: you have when you're watching it and you're like, this
Speaker 3: is it I'm going to change.
Speaker 1: This is how I'm going to be different. It's so funny.
Speaker 4: I ordered one of those half balls with a surface.
Speaker 1: On the other it's like a balance ball.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, well, that'll get if I leave it
Speaker 4: in the living room and it's right here on the floor.
Speaker 4: If I leave it there, I'll it'll make me every
Speaker 4: time I walk by it, I'll have to do some crunches.
Speaker 4: But no, I just step over it or stub my
Speaker 4: toe on it. So far, it's been a real hazard.
Speaker 3: I did that with a mini trampoline because I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: when I'm watching TV, it's all that stuff, and it's
Speaker 3: like the first time I tried to do it, I
Speaker 3: was like, a mini trampoline is hard. Like if you
Speaker 3: stop doing it and then you're just trying to continue
Speaker 3: bouncing for half an hour, I was immediately exhausted, Like
Speaker 3: this isn't fucking fun.
Speaker 1: I was so mad. Yeah, you think you're going to
Speaker 1: be doing little backflips.
Speaker 3: Now you immediately are like, ooh, my die muscles, I
Speaker 3: never use these.
Speaker 1: Well have we done it? Have we talked about everything?
Speaker 1: I mean, we've done we've done it.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to tell Margaret I watched Face Off
Speaker 4: the other night and I kept pausing it. I did
Speaker 4: not know you were in Face Off, So I just
Speaker 4: wanted to say that it was so awesome that you
Speaker 4: were ate.
Speaker 2: So much pie during the making of that movie that
Speaker 2: they had to add a stretchy panel to the back
Speaker 2: of the suit. Because the movie takes place over I
Speaker 2: think the span of about a week, but we filmed
Speaker 2: over a year and a half because of all the stunts.
Speaker 2: So I had to actually add a stretchy elastic in
Speaker 2: the back of my suit because I.
Speaker 1: Was someone bringing pies to set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was eating pie with John Travolta like
Speaker 2: he was. He started to invite me into his trailer
Speaker 2: for lunch. Yes, I don't know why, but we would
Speaker 2: just eat and he yeah, but we would eat like
Speaker 2: some kind of paste, like a beep Wellington for lunch
Speaker 2: and then pie. And then one time he ate a
Speaker 2: whole boys and Berry pie just to the head with
Speaker 2: one pie to the head with a with a fork,
Speaker 2: just no slices the lie. And so that's the kind
Speaker 2: of eating that I was like accustomed to over the year,
Speaker 2: like a king like him, and so I gained so
Speaker 2: much weight that there's like a stretchy panel on the back.
Speaker 2: They were so mad at me at the costume department,
Speaker 2: but you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, I felt that coustomers customers hate it when you're
Speaker 3: a size eight. So I can't imagine what would happen
Speaker 3: if you had to have them add a panel.
Speaker 2: They had to cut it and then sew it in
Speaker 2: because they had to have the same suit.
Speaker 1: Because we were like.
Speaker 2: Shooting I think the beginning of a scene like in January,
Speaker 2: but then the end of the scene like in December.
Speaker 1: So it was a very it.
Speaker 3: Was it was rough, but that was really I remember
Speaker 3: when that came out. It was so exciting because aren't
Speaker 3: you an FBI agent or like a you're a some kind.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like an FBI agent. So it's one
Speaker 2: of the you know the movie The Conceit is like
Speaker 2: half of the movie it's like John Devolden. The other
Speaker 2: half is Nick the case. He was really he's in
Speaker 2: character the whole time, so he was really mean to us,
Speaker 2: like the first part of the film. For the first
Speaker 2: six months, he was just an asshole, okay, and in
Speaker 2: the next six months, Yeah, next six months. He was
Speaker 2: really nice because he's in character for the whole time.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, so method. It was so method.
Speaker 2: So it was like certain, like it's scary to work
Speaker 2: with somebody that's kind of in character the whole time.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if he does that now,
Speaker 2: but it was really scary then.
Speaker 4: And of course he's the scariest persons all the days,
Speaker 4: but he's Yeah, but he would make I would be
Speaker 4: scared to be near him well.
Speaker 3: Because that he's like one of those like uh Steppenwolf
Speaker 3: rock and roll actors where he's like in it into
Speaker 3: the max and whatever, like, and he's so accomplished that
Speaker 3: like it's like a tornado where he's gonna come on
Speaker 3: and like make it his own.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And that's the kind of thing like anytime I've ever
Speaker 3: done any kind of acting, the second anything happens that
Speaker 3: I didn't anticipate, I'm like, oh, I shouldn't be doing this,
Speaker 3: Like it makes me weirdly like all my I just
Speaker 3: wouldn't be able to be in a scene, even if
Speaker 3: I was just supposed to be standing there, because I
Speaker 3: would get so like freaked out by actual like and
Speaker 3: that's the whole game of acting is like you come
Speaker 3: in and you're this persona and you're you know, like
Speaker 3: your energy and all that stuff, and.
Speaker 1: I would just be like, ooh, it don't it's scary.
Speaker 2: It was scary because I was in a scene with
Speaker 2: Nick once that he's he's I supposed to yell for
Speaker 2: the medic and then he collapses, but he decided that
Speaker 2: he wanted to collapse first before I yelled medic. So
Speaker 2: I kept on doing it as it was written, and
Speaker 2: then he just turned to like, well, you just wait
Speaker 2: for me to fucking call it. And John Willcoms He's like, oh,
Speaker 2: do wait for him to.
Speaker 1: Call it?
Speaker 2: And I was like so like mortified, you know, like
Speaker 2: I'm just doing what was the script that I was
Speaker 2: just like so scared, But you know, it's just that's how.
Speaker 1: It is, how it is. What is this show you're in? Kim?
Speaker 4: Joel Booster has been on our show before, and he's terrific.
Speaker 1: You're you're in a show with him? Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did a movie with him in Bowie Yang
Speaker 2: called Fire Island, which is a reimagining of Pride and
Speaker 2: Prejudice but with all Asian gay men, and it's really
Speaker 2: really fun and.
Speaker 1: We just finished, it's beautiful. What part are you in
Speaker 1: pride and prejudice?
Speaker 2: I'm the mom. I'm the mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like all of my daughters are going to
Speaker 2: find mister Darcy. And it's really I had such a
Speaker 2: great time with them and they're so funny. We had
Speaker 2: our own podcast network, so Joel's is for Your Confirmation
Speaker 2: is his podcast, and then Bowen's is The Yang Over,
Speaker 2: which I think is a really good one. And so
Speaker 2: it's like, I just I love them. There's just the
Speaker 2: new generation kids take it over gay comedy.
Speaker 3: I love Bowen Yang is killing it on SNL so
Speaker 3: hard and so in such a beautiful way. It's just
Speaker 3: such an exciting thing. And Joel comb Booster is like
Speaker 3: I remember when I first saw him, like outside a
Speaker 3: club or where you know some some are people doing sets,
Speaker 3: and he really does look like a model.
Speaker 1: Like he funny, there's.
Speaker 2: No way, he's so funny, truly, really.
Speaker 1: One of the best stand ups.
Speaker 2: He's such a great stand up and he's such a
Speaker 2: great writer, and he's just so beautiful, so beautiful. He's
Speaker 2: such a but everybody on that film is so gorgeous,
Speaker 2: and it was like all these guys and they all
Speaker 2: worspitos and you know, than me, just like eating bye.
Speaker 1: You with your boys and berry pie. Yeah, my whole pie.
Speaker 1: But it's like they're all had like veins.
Speaker 2: On their stomach. Their bodies are so perfect.
Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell ya.
Speaker 3: The twenty twenty one days? I think the pressure is immense.
Speaker 3: It's it's so very much like the Calista Flockhart nineties
Speaker 3: for us, is how it is for them today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it's they're all perfect. I mean, they're like, it's
Speaker 3: it's crazy, but that's so cool. I So that's a
Speaker 3: movie that's going to come out.
Speaker 2: It's a movie that's coming out, and so that we
Speaker 2: just wrapped that a couple of weeks ago. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: So so I think it'll probably it'll probably be at
Speaker 2: next summer. It's a big summer movie.
Speaker 1: Amazing. What else? What else? Any other plugs?
Speaker 2: H plugs?
Speaker 3: Is?
Speaker 2: I'm doing stand up? I am at Largo the day
Speaker 2: before Halloween. I don't know if this will be on
Speaker 2: by then, but then I'll be at Oh and then
Speaker 2: I'm going to Recivic for the flight attendant for a while.
Speaker 1: Are you the TV show? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 1: Oh? If Michelle Gomez is still on it. Please say
Speaker 1: hi to her for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the greatest. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know yet, but I will be there starting
Speaker 2: in a little bit, so I'm a few.
Speaker 1: Iceland. Have you been there, Margaret, No, I've never been there.
Speaker 1: I haven't been either. I want to go so bad.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's awesome. Yeah cool.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to all of the Goodman's daughters, all
Speaker 2: the what is it, Goodman's son, Goodman's daughters, that's all
Speaker 2: their names are, Yeah, basically. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought you were talking about York's extended family.
Speaker 2: No, but they're like so many of them. Yes, there's
Speaker 2: like a like like pretty much everybody's named that they Yes.
Speaker 1: And also everybody lives like the southern uh, just a
Speaker 1: little southern arc of the whole island.
Speaker 3: It's just that everybody lives down here because the rest
Speaker 3: of it is volcanoes and ice. Oh wow, a magical place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never been, so I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Margaret. Thank you for being here with us. You're the best.
Speaker 2: Thank you, You're the best.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're the coolest. It's really good to meet you.
Speaker 2: So awesome. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it for us, right, Yeah, yeah, you've been
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